After a failed vote in Tempe, is there still a path forward for the Coyotes in Arizona?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Arizona Coyotes fans were left stunned Tuesday night after Tempe citizens voted against propositions 301, 302 and 303. The future of the team now hangs in the balance with a viable permanent home in Tempe officially off the table. Is there a path forward for the Coyotes in Arizona or is relocation the only solution? How did things go wrong?
Craig, Petey and Leah sort through the emotions of it all on today’s PHNX Coyotes Podcast.
0:00 Intro
1:28 An emotional clearing
6:55 No campaign outmuscled yes campaign
16:15 Vote returns by age
24:00 What's next?
46:50 Effects on Roadrunners & Youth Hockey
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If you think about it, there really isn't much benefit to someone 65+ in having an entertainment district in town so it's not surprising that they would vote no. But when you have such a miserable turnout from the under 35 crowd who would have benefited that's a sign that the team's campaign was poorly planned and/or poorly executed.
Imagine losing having a billionaire and every local politician in your pocket on the yes side. Pretty pathetic and major L, yet hilarious. Shows you how ill-managed the coyotes are in all aspects.
Much love to the wonderful trio here who work their assess off for grade A Yotes coverage. May the Coyotes find a way to stay in Arizona FOREVER
3 clowns worried about losing the teet that supports them 😂
Only clown here is you Kunta
I really hope they can work this out, i was the kid during the city council meetings in glendale who changed phil liebermans mind, im praying we can figure it out!
Lol dream big
Really want a hockey team in Houston. Dont want it to be at the expense of Arizona hockey fans. But still really want hockey growth in my hometown.
You can have them, AZ voters have spoken many times now.
See you at the game!
This makes me sick. My son’s first exposure to hockey was with the Coyotes. First live games for him were Coyotes games. This one feels like the biggest sledgehammer of them all, even worse than the ownership bankruptcy with Trader Jerry and Glendale ending the lease early. At least there, I felt like the team had time and hope. I honestly feel, unless they get into bed with Mat Ishiba or the tribes, it’s over.
You can always move 😘
Shoulda woulda coulda. Story of the Coyotes. I’m so sad and slowly getting angry.
Be mad at your team's owner
@@KuntaKinte09 you realize most people use the addon that lets them know when someone thumbs-up their own comments, right? Seriously, you're trying too hard.
It feels like the coyotes are finally on the right track
To leave AZ* hopefully :)
Let’s go Houston Aeros!!!!
Arizona should have a hockey team. Dallas already has one.
I am an avid Coyotes fan and I have to say I am totally embarrassed. We are laughed at by everybody around the NHL. The fact that the people in Tempe are more inclined to keep a toxic waste site goes to show you there are plenty of hicks that live there. This state DESERVES to lose this team. The fact Gary Bettman last night did not include a committment to remain in AZ speaks volumes.. The local gov't reject them, Robert Sarver rejected them, Glendale said good bye, Tempe slapped them down, the local sports media doesn't pay attention to them like they should....WHEN DOES THIS ALL END? I say with tears in my eyes, Coyotes leave, go where you are appreciated. You have been treated like a bastard child in the PHX market.
This hits hard man, if they don’t keep the team I hope the roadrunners stay in Tucson.
It ends with coyotes leaving AZ for good. Cry about it
This show today helped bring a little bit of calm to the feelings. But I don’t know, I don’t know that I can hold out hope until they prove otherwise. It’s destructive to the mental health at this point. What I do want to say is how much I appreciate the 3 of you. Craig, your reporting and honesty and INTEGRITY or unbelievably appreciated. Petey, your humor is second to none and I can always count on you for a laugh. Leah, I feel like you’ve given the everyday fan much more of a voice by being the lead of this show. I genuinely appreciate you three and I genuinely appreciate and love this community we have worked hard to build. Because of you all, I and the rest of us didn’t have to go through that news alone. We had a place to come to where we can just feel and express our emotions in a safe space and I have so much gratitude for that. I think this is what I want to focus on right now more than anything else, is my love and appreciation for this community because hockey and the Coyotes don’t mean a whole lot without what we have here. I really do hope ownership figures this out and that we get to a point where this is truly over and we can stay for good. For now, I can’t hold out hope that this happens because it’s far too heartbreaking otherwise. But I absolutely appreciate you all and I love you all. Thank you for what you do.
I cry evrytime 😂😂😆😆🤡
They didnt spend enough because they felt it was a slam dunk win-win and it would be a definite Yes vote.
Sounds like usual ignorance from a billionaire and his politicians
What about the madhouse on McDowell? The Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum. Could a new arena be built there? It has a lot of fire safety violations right now and I still believe that could be a possibility for an arena for the Coyotes.
Do think it's on the table but probably as a temporary 5-10 year deal
@@cheifcrazybuffalo8390 I was thinking it could be on the table. It’s a location that could still make sense. I was not clear in my statement about my vision. That they would keep playing in Tempe and build the new arena at that location.
I also like the idea if the new Suns owner Mat Ishbia was bold enough and Murelo didn’t want the team. There is that possibility.
So while I have some concerns about the possibility of a move. I don’t think we’re in the same risk as the Atlanta Thrashers move as of yet. However this is the most doubtful I’ve been in a long time about the future of the Coyotes.
Horrible news. I'm "feeling sick about it."
I live in NJ i used to have to hear about the devils moving all the time before they got their new arena and how our fans never showed up but we kids who grew up during the cup years are adults now with spending power and we show up and spend now. I don’t want to see Arizona move I’ve always rooted for them from afar because i know in my heart if they can just get their arena and have some success the team would work.
Lol if only they had a new arena one of the worst ranked franchises and teams in the state/country would start winning, sure bro 😂🤡
Houston we have a hockey team Bettman make it happen
This is truth! A billionaire would receive a 30 year property tax break! That was a hundred percent true! No breaks for Billionaires! Voted No! Stay out of Tempe! 🖕🏽
And keep the landfill!!! Voters Deserve what they are left with .. a toxic dump
Wrong. Taxes on residents would go up if these propositions passed. The Coyotes Entertainment District was going to receive a 30 year tax abatement on the back end. So, for all the surrounding infrastructure that requires up-keep, especially from the heavy use given the density of the site, who would pay for all that over the next three decades? Not Meruelo.
💯
He can barely pay for his own campaign and then his fans have the nerve to blame everyone else but looking inward.
@KuntaKinte09 I know, right? For all those angry at Tempe voters, they should ask themselves: would they vote "Yes" on these propositions if this project was proposed in their own community? I doubt it.
@@coreyf1204 You would only have to pay the taxes if you were planning to visit the arena or entertainment district. The taxes would have been used to clean up a city-owned toxic waste site that will probably never be developed in the coming years. Tempe missed out on a great mixed-use district that was “the best sports deal in Arizona history” according to the Mayor.
Sure …. Now go visit LA live and downtown San Diego …. All needed city /gov credits ….. to redevelop ….. the seed that was planted by credits led to billions of private investment ….. look at petco park : I know I lived in both cities …… btw Tempe won and gets to keep the landfill ….. “winning…” and how the residents going to deal with that albatross …… ?
You all did a Hr for hockey in Arizona, Look at Sun devil hockey is a huge work, I really hope this team can stay !!!
No one cares about hockey in the desert
Move the team I am so sick of Phoenix as a whole not wanting the coyotes. Tucson supports the roadrunners better.
Yes please! AZ voters have spoken many times now. GTFO
First time I saw your show was last night. You have a terrific show and I heard you on Donnie and Dhanni podcast from Vancouver and you were terrific in your explanation of the situation . I'm sorry about your hockey team and hope it stays in arizona somehow. I also thought you would have had a natural rivalry with vegas and should have been in western division . I'm from New York and know about uninformed voters .
"Terrific show" terrifically hilarious maybe, especially these last 2 episodes
Tempe First “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
Tempe Wins: "We just lost" 😂😂🤡
I know I coyotes organization look new arena options in Arizona in the future for next three weeks right now 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯👍🌵😎🌴
I hope they find new home location in Arizona in the future 🙏🙏🏋️♂️🙏💯💯💯🌵👍😎🏋️♂️🏌️♀️🏃♂️⛳️🦾🏒🏆🇺🇸🛬🌴
Dream big
Would not surprise me if money from Canada, funded a lot of this misinformation. There are people in Canada who can not deal with losing their team years ago, especially people around Quebec.
Qanon crowd no wonder y'all lost 😂😆😩🤡
When my New Jersey Nets left to move to Brooklyn I was heartbroken. They left their loyal fanbase in NJ for the bright lights of NYC. I hope the Coyotes can stay in Arizona so you fans don’t have to feel that sadness
I hope they get kicked out of a 4th AZ city for comedy purposes before they finally leave for good
Hey finally some self-reflection on this podcast, only person to blame is yourselves and Alex Muerelo
I keep thinking about the kids and the hockey programs in AZ that have grown and benefited from the Coyotes. These kids don't deserve this shit. Nor do all the employees and families that rely on this organization.
Shouldn't have trusted this billionaire and losing sports franchise
I am so crushed by the absolute shortsighted tempe voters, but two spots wonder if could work - the mile square Salt River Rez land NW of 101/202 and could do arena, entertainment center, apt complex and the tribe could build another Talking Sticks hotel/casino/resort (replacing AZ Casino) or AZ Mills it is a dead mall and ripe for a metrocenter/fiesta redo (but also feel eff off tempe).
GTFO and stay out of Tempe 😘
big economic loss for the city of Tempe; property values always rise when billions are invested in a specific geographic area: area would have generated jobs, sales tax from businesses/restaurants/etc. as well as risen the value of surrounding commercial and residential properties ... so all those who voted "NO"... dont understand basic economics... .... look at LA Live, Downtown San Diego Gas Lamp District and what happened to those areas... you think an investor or entity is going to spend $$$$ to clean the landfill without generating a strong return: it was the only way to privately clean up that area.... now Tempe will keep its landfill and it will stay a landfill ... congrats Tempe!!! dont kid yourself on making that area a park or low income housing.... and if so it will certainly be on Tempe's dime... and BTW another city will get the team that understands that successful sports teams bring success to their surrounding communities... LOSS, LOSS on so many levels.
Coyotes keep their losing streak going, couldn't even beat a "toxic landfill" 😂😂😂 GTFO of Tempe
@@KuntaKinte09 Tempe is a prime location. Most of the Coyotes’ fanbase lives in the East Valley, and Tempe is close enough for most East Valley and Phoenix residents. It’s close enough to Mesa and Downtown Phoenix. Also, it would’ve been in a city that actually cares about making their city walkable and transit-friendly, and that would’ve applied to the arena and entertainment district. The reason why the Coyotes failed in Glendale was because most of their fanbase lived far away in the East Valley. It’s people like you who made this great opportunity never happen.
Imagine your union dues going towards nothing.
Imagine getting kicked out of 3 AZ cities and not taking the hint
Not a Coyotes fan but I’d rather see them stay in AZ then move to Houston. That would be another Atlanta Thrashers fiasco. IMHO, they would absolutely be successful in Salt Lake City, however if they don’t move there, than make it work in AZ. Cause I personally don’t see an NHL hockey team working anywhere else. If it didn’t work in Quebec, how the heck would it work in Houston? I hope something comes up that keeps them in AZ…if not, SLC will welcome them with open arms.
Let them leave, AZ has spoken many times
The Yotes are gone. You all will be gone. Don't trust your boss.
Based
Based in Houston
Hopefully!
I believe coyotes aren’t leaving Arizona there to money involved and Bettman will
Back them up
I believe in Santa myself 😆
Tempe Dump > Coyotes
I’m a Yotes, and Stars fan in Houston, an hope that the Yotes can be saved in Arizona. PLEASE DON’T RE-LOCATE!!!!!!
AZ voters have spoken 🎉
Who cares, it’s hockey.
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