Hey family! I really hope you enjoy this video and that it sheds light on what we should and should not be spending our precious time arguing over. Let me know your thoughts below! Enjoy!
Hey brother thanks for all that you do for us. How should we take this passage on tithes?Matthew 23:23 English Standard Version 23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others
@@luiscortes313 I'm not Allen, but, I'd like to share this with you. Christians are not under the Law of Moses, therefore, we are not under any law to tithe. We are expected to give from our hearts. We are expected to support our Pastors, Preachers, Teachers, ect.. We are expected to give to the Church to keep it operating; paying electric, gas, water, ect., so we have a place to worship, fellowship, and learn the ways of God together as a family. Jews offered sacrifices that fed, and supported the Priests. The left overs were distributed to the poor. We do the same things but in different ways. Their laws are written on stones, ours are written on our hearts by the Holy Spirit that abides in us. I pray this helps you understand. Be blessed!!!
Brother Parr, You have proven yourself to be very level-headed, open-minded, and filled with common sense when exegeting the Scripture. Blessings to you.
I am a charismatic Christian, and it seems that I would probably disagree with you on at least half of these issues you have discussed. But even in the areas of disagreement, I could admit that I have seen things in church and in scripture that make it understandable how someone would come to a different conclusion on that issue. I love this video! You are a good Christian brother and I can see that you are trying to reflect Jesus' heart of love and unity. God bless you and may he bring all of the Christians in all denominations and groups together in unity centered on our faith in Jesus Christ and the core teachings of the gospel!
That was great. Thank you. We have the same beliefs. I remember once telling God I was going to walk away from my walk with Him. His reply was “I chose you.” Thank God He chose me. I fall on my knees and weep with gratitude. He chose me and He keeps me. What a mighty God we serve!
I really needed this video. I’ve been in the word like any other believer but I see so many UA-camrs state their opinion on these topics & a wide variety of others. I started confusing my sinful nature for demons and I felt like my salvation was coming into question. I started to turn into a Pharisee and started pointing my finger at others instead of dealing with the log 🪵 inside of my eye. Also, I struggle with some strongholds and I started to let that define my salvation instead of what was done on the Cross. Thank you Allen for all your videos. I copped one of your “ He said what He said shirts” as well 🙏🏼 God bless.
I hear brother,until recently I was the same and understand the greatest commandment is love God love your neighbour as yourself,I believe we need to minister the truth in gentleness and kindness that means not affirming behaviours and sin,also means correction to the body of Christ with out hyprocracy and not to be mean spirited about it!the word of God is lamp!
Same, it’s like the more you learn the more questions arise. You start questioning what’s what due to all these different teachings. We should all just let the Holy Spirit guide us in Gods word. This is to myself as much as anyone else.
Go and make a good confession and Lord will foregive your sins. But the praxis shows that demons can posses christians. I do not know why, but they can.
We need to distinguish "arguing" from discussing. I hope every believer feels the freedom to discuss their perspective and commend it to the conscience of others according to Scripture along with what we see as the strength of our view and the weakness and risks of opposing views. The harm comes when we make these honest differences of interpretation into reasons to cast aspersions or make accusations or demand "repentance" from those with differing views. This is where an honest discussion among brothers turns into argument and division.
Also, we should choose when and how to have those conversations (if at all)! This platform, for example, is definitely not suitable. We are all strangers on here and have little hope in ‘converting’ another stranger with our pithy or stringent statements on any given precept. This is not the place. A one on one, prayerful discussion with plenty of diving into the Bible is the way forward. If the conversation is deemed necessary at all! 🤗
@@caroleceres I would hope all of us are capable of having our minds and hearts changed by digging into the Bible. Strangers have changed my mind many times using Scripture. My plan is to "do unto others" and continue teaching every aspect of Scripture without intentionally avoiding topics just because some find them "controversial." Did Jesus avoid controversial topics? Did the prophets? Did the evangelists? Did the Apostles? Circumcision was a controversial topic in Paul's day. He didn't avoid it.
@@jesusprofessor314 I think that I did not explain myself well enough. Which I suppose goes to prove my point. I am sure that I didn’t say anything about avoiding biblical subject matters. I hoped that when I said that this and places like this, were not the forum to do so, people would have understood that I was advocating face to face biblical discussions. Many times I have come across people slamming their points of views without due care or attention to à counterpoint view, with or without supporting scripture. Nothing is gained. Tempers flare. Antagonism arises. No one ‘wins’. I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. Yes we will have our minds changed by digging into the Bible, rather than digging into each other.
As an addendum: Jesus, Paul and the original Apostles were not strangers. We all know who they are, we quote them! We are assured that they were of God, washed by The Holy Spirit. They were well known people in their time. You have no idea who I am, nor I you! We would have to learn from the Bereans and search the scriptures to verify anything that the other said to us. Then if we wanted to follow up or clarify, there’s little opportunity to do so. That also is my point. These social media platforms do not necessarily lend themselves to that, because some people use them with the wrong motives/mindset.
Thank you Allen. I found myself thrown into deliverance ministry. When it occurred I realised that I had seen a “ghost”, when I was 9 years old. When we left that depressing house my father told me of what he had seen but worse still we had tenants at one time and their little boy was found virtually dead by the coal fire. He was rushed to the emergency room and spent time in hospital. He could do nothing for himself. He was only 2. Being Roman Catholics we had our priest come in and bless the house and although we could feel something was wrong, the priest could not get rid of it. The next time deliverance occurred I was an adult now living in South Africa where witchcraft, ancestor worship are frequently mixed with so called Christianity. I was blessed to be at a church who sent a man to our home and the demon took 3 days to get rid of. I’m not going into details other than we had been to Egypt a couple of years before and purchased a beautiful painting called “The River of Life”. None of the Egyptian Gods were in it. It was the Nile with fish, flowers, 😅birds and finished with Gold. This dear man took one look at it and told me to get it off the wall. As I got up on the sofa it came off the wall at me and removed plaster from the wall. That was a eye opener. Now at 72 I’m in a wheelchair most of the time, so no climbing on sofas. Since then I have been used in the deliverance ministry as God wills and since I’ve been in the wheelchair also. I fully agree with you that this is a specific calling on your life and have taught new Christians, that you have to know who you are in Jesus Christ. Do not get involved unless God calls you. Paul tells of the sons of Shiver who thought they could get rid of demons and the demons said Jesus we know, Paul we know, who are you? They were beaten by the demons and their clothes ripped. Bless you brother for all you do and your family also. Love from Johannesburg South Africa 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️😇😇😇🥰
What do you call ghost. If you think it was a dead human, the bible speaks on the dead being dead. Jesus is the only one who has risen. I would say it could have been a demon or angel but not a dead human.
I really appreciate one of your lines: diversity in the church community. Sometimes, we can be so caught up on being religious and closed-minded that we misunderstand others. You never know how much of a blessing someone may be in your life if you don't listen to them.
People can be ardent in their views and consider opposing view as "close minded". In the culture I often hear people say that Christians are "close minded". But that really means since you do not agree with my point of view, then you have to be "close minded" (ie, something wrong with your thinking and conclusions)not to see my point of view. I do not think people are so much closed minded as much as they hold a different point of view. Ultimately that point of view my end up being right or wrong but it has nothing to do with a closed mind. People can be stubborn about their views and that can be good or bad depending on their views, but there is nothing wrong with being stubborn especially if you hold a correct view. Anyway, as you can see I have a thing about the term "Close Minded" Generally if I call some one "close minded" then I am being "close minded" about their views. It is similar to tolerance. The culture says that Christians are not tolerant of the cultures view. But please notice that they are not being tolerant of the Christian view. True tolerance (which no one practices) would entail tolerating Every Point of view. But that is not what happens in the culture. The culture wants you to embrace their point of view but will not accept your point of view. The thing is that they claim to be tolerant! So don't fall for the Tolerance trick from the culture. I think Christianity is pretty tolerant but its main focus is Truth. Christians do not promote everything the culture promotes. And the culture does not promote Christianity. Each side accepts some things and rejects other things. The culture promotes tolerance while not practicing it. Thanks for you post and I pray you bear with my rant! God Bless.
This video has been such a blessing to me. I find myself getting upset with other believers over these very topics. Thank you for helping me understand I don't have to do that. God bless!
This was such a great video! It's just plain sound wisdom. Thankyou Allen. The church needs this more than ever, standing together...not accusing, condemning, or divisive about secondary issues. Amen.
Hi Allen. I think the gift of “tongues” is greatly misinterpreted. It is my understanding that the apostles speaking in “tongues” meant only that when they preached in they’re own native language, anyone listening to them heard the words in their own language, no matter where they were from. It was definitely not the “gibberish” I hear from those charismatics professing to be able to do the same!
WHEN I PRAY IN TONGUES WHICH IS A HEAVENLY LANGUAGE MEANT FOR PRAYER BETWEEN YOU AND GOD TO EDIFY HIS WILL INTO YOUR LIFE SO SATAN CAN NOT HEAR AND KNOW...IS MEANT TO BE IN PRIVATE ONLY. I WRITE DOWN THE WORDS I HEAR DURING PRAYER AND ITS WORDS FROM ALL 12 HEBREW TRIBES OF TODAY ALSO SANSKRIT. IVE HEARD WORDS IN MY PRAYER LANGUAGE FROM EVERY POLYNESIAN LANGUAGE, AFRICAN, SPANISH, NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGES ECT. ALL THESE TRIBES ARE OF THE 12 DISBURSED HEBREW TRIBES. TRUE TONGUES IS NOT BABABA LALALA. IT IS A PRAYER OF ALL GODS LANGUAGES COMBINED. WHEN YOU HEAR TRUE TONGUES YOU'D UNDERSTAND.
”For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.“ 1 Corinthians 14:2 This doesn’t sound like a earthly language
Good comments. Mighty brave of you to share your thoughts on each of these topics. So much fighting and church splitting has occurred over these topics.
We were just talking about predestination in our home fellowship. It was a good discussion and no arguing. Then one man spoke up and said, “No matter which it is, God did it!” To me it doesn’t matter. Just share the Gospel as we are told. I do agree with your view. This has been great! Thank you!
Predestination only deals with groups, never individuals; God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinists it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
Many peoples problems with this subject comes from bad physics. It is clear that God gave all so his creation free-will. He sits outside of his creation and knows the beginning and the end. God knows which sin you are going to commit next Thursday. He has seen your entire life and death and knows all the choices you have made and will make in the future. To the best of our knowledge, God’s creations have always had choice built in.
@@rednab2001 people don’t have to willfully sin. Jesus will save you from any addiction or sinful habit, and set you free. First, John 1:7 “if you walk in the light as he is in a light… The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.“ If you don’t walk in the light, the blood of Jesus will not cleanse you from all sin! Jesus, & the Bible are not dumb. He did not die on the cross, so people could keep on sinning…..fyi
I don't agree with (absolutely) everything this pastor says, but I am so glad that he's covering these topics, and opening this dialogue. Thank you!! This is really important.. ♥️
Allen, thanks so much for this video, especially the perspective on deliverance ministry and demonic possession. I had gotten caught up into this for a brief moment a few weeks ago. After listening to a friend who is into deliverance ministry and listening to a few videos by a popular YT prophetess, I was convinced the mental turmoil I was experiencing was being caused by demonic influence /spirit in my life. I bought this book called Deliverance from demonic Possession and Curses written by a Nigerian Pastor. I only read about 10-15 pages and immediately was stricken with the worst anxiety I had felt in years. I was borderline hallucinating. I got rid of the book repented. I prayed and God revealed this very same thing to me. I cannot be possessed with a demonic spirit and also be saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. The two cannot coexist. We wrestle against principalities but they don’t possess us as believers. I still communicate with my friend but I do realize that that path can be very perilous and can cause some real damage to one’s spiritual life.
I’m glad you got rid of that book. No need for it. Much of what people call a spirit or a demon is not that. It’s our flesh or mental health or something else. With that said, we do wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and rulers which is demonic influence.
The Church of God in Christ should not hv been taken as a denomination. The Church of God in Christ is the Ecclesia/ Church/one Body, many members worldwide, not organizations with slight differences which is the definition of denoms. There should Never be slight differences with the Word of God! Denom organization have rules and regulations that do not align with the Holy Scriptures, which is the Constitution of the Kingdom of Elohim! We are to be with one accord, unified, Psalm 133, and all the Scriptures.
This is just fantastic! Heresy, error and disagreement are absolutely very different and everyone must know the difference and aim to be Christlike and remain biblical based in approaching one another in love! I really love this preface! Thank you for not only what you say, but the wisdom the Lord has given you that you share with us and the way in which you do it with love. X
Wow this was so well done and helpful. I have struggled with seeing different Christian teachers I love calling each other false. This gave me the clarity I needed to move forward and not get stuck worrying about it. Thank you!!!
The Lord has really been working in my heart lately to extend more grace to Christians who don't believe exactly like me. He's shown me I'm not always as right as I think I am, and maybe there's room for some mystery. I hope and pray that I dont divide over things that aren't worthy of division but also fight for truth where it is warrented.
I always love how balanced and diplomatic you are, Allen. You have a gift of standing firm on truth, and yet being gentle and diplomatic on important issues. Praise God for your ministry to others. I hope your video helps mitigate the extremes that people always tend to swing towards.
Thank you for doing this video (as always)! I had a pastor once say "the 5% of things that separate are really not as important as the 95% of things that bind us." Re: Predestination/Free Will: I always just believed that we are all presented with the the Truth of Salvation & it was up to each person to accept or despise it. But the Predestination part was that God knew, from the very beginning of time, who would accept his Gift and on them he built His Plans. Does that make sense? Is it a cop-out or naïve?
That's a good take on it. I'm not 100% sure on how the free will vs. predestination part works, but I do trust it when God says some of saved and some are not... that this is true. And it's not his fault if someone rejects him. It seems to fly in the face of logic, which is pretty much true of many things in the Bible, so why should this one be any different? It flies in the face of logic that God would send his Son to save us in the first place.... so if I'm willing to believe that, then predestination shouldn't be too hard to believe either. . The best analogy I thought of once was a father who leaves his son a great inheritance (that's the predestination/gift of salvation), but for whatever reason the son either doesn't believe it exists (atheism) or the son refuses it and pridefully goes his own way (all other reasons for rejection). The gift was there, it was given, it was in his name... but it does him no good and he has only himself to blame. . Not perfect by a long stretch, but as close as I could come up with in my poor attempt to think about it.
I disagree (respectfully) on both points. The pastor’s error is putting every issue on the same level. But errors are divided between ‘heresy’ that costs salvation and ‘heterodox’ that doesn’t. For examples, believing snake handling is heterodox, but believing you have to be symptom-free after being bitten by a water moccasin to be saved is heresy. Sinners only need one heresy to remain damned, and the other 99% is irrelevant. Focusing on what’s shared is a path to peace, but there’s a reason God calls His Word a Sword. Second point: When God looked forward across the ages, He saw Romans 3:11 and 1 Corinthians 2:14. Sin destined us to hell; God’s plan re-destines some to heaven. I give Calvinism a score of 65%, but Arminianism gets a score of only 35%.
On your take, I’d almost agree brother. I would say, yes, God knew from the beginning and on them he built his plan. To that, I would add a little more “It’s God” without no less taking away we have to receive. I know it’s somewhat confusing but it’s part of the mystery, which is it’s Him and we have to receive in the context of our lives. Either way, stay blessed brother.
@ricksonora6656 I agree with you and him. Because of cause there is hersey. That's not the point of this let's use discernment to understand the point of what's being said. So yes your right but we aren't talking about hersey here.
Tithing is such a privilege to recognize and give thanks to God for His provision. It also enables us to supply our church with the ability to help others.🙌
Hello, I found this channel thanks to Dr. Turek's podcast I don't have enough faith to be an atheist, and this is the first video I watched. And though I know a few things about how it is in the USA, well... These issues or doctrines are very interesting and say a lot about your culture and society, and it was very informative and well done. I'm not from the USA. I'm from Slovakia, that's central Europe. I belong to Slovak Lutheran church, which is very traditional. It's older than your country, it was established in 1610. Luther's teachings had actually arrived and been taught since 1520, and first confession (basically first attempt of creating new church) from my region was actually way back in 1549 (Confessio Pentapolitana). After 4 and half centuries, filled with lots of trials and tribulations, our church learnt to hold onto our Bible and refuse everything else. One thing before I continue: Slovakia is small. As in, a little bit bigger than Mississippi state in size, but only 5,5 mil. people live here, and only 5,27% of Slovak population is a Lutheran. Everyone with Lutheran confession is in Slovak Lutheran church, but we have small local congregations with a few hundreds up to a few thousands people. My local congregation has around 770 people, but we belong to Slovak Lutheran church. We have one state bishop, two bishops for West and East part of Slovakia, and senior pastors for 8 regions of Slovakia. Every local church has a local pastor, or two, or maybe more (if there are more people, or it's a town with a senior pastor). Our standing on these 7 doctrines you talked about (since you asked about our beliefs, hopefully it will interest you): 1. Women pastors - since 1920 we have our own Slovak Lutheran church (it had to do with establishment of Czechoslovakia after WW1) we have women pastors. In my home congregation, we actually have a married pair of pastors, the husband is the main pastor and his wife is an additional pastor. There are more such pairs in our church. However, we have single women pastors who lead their congregations on their own. Also, we have women pastors in position of senior pastors. As far as I can tell (from talking to those that I know personally), none of the women pastors wanted authority or whatever, it is all part of their service to God. That's it. True, I only know 5 or 6 women pastors personally, but there are more men than women pastors anyway. To be honest, it is true that single women pastors have it harder, and not all of them remain in the service. 2. Spiritual gifts - that was a big issue among young people in church when a charismatic church came to Košice, our nearest town with a senior pastor. I personally was told by some of my friends from school that if I don't speak in tongues, I'm not saved and/or don't have the Holy Spirit in me. It affected our youth group a lot, but now it's fine. Unfortunately, quite a few of my friends have left our church because of that. Another big issue was the question of baptism - in our church babies are baptized, but some people from Baptist church who came to Košice said that it doesn't count. Even more friends left our youth group because of that. 3. Christians and demons - this is just in your country, nothing about it here. 4. Modern Christian music - we translate a LOT of American songs, and usually nobody even cares who is this or that song from. We also have our Slovak Christian singers and bands, and I like their music, too. But... once again, this is not our problem in the way you described. 5. Tithing - my first thought was: What is he talking about??? Honestly? Only after a couple of minutes I understood. In our church, we have a tax we pay that is non-negotiable (we have to pay it - is it correct word?) and every Sunday we give offerings that are completely free, up to us how much we give. I have a small role in this - I help with counting the small offerings after every Sunday in our local church (by "church" here I mean the building where we have services), and I can witness that some people give 50 cents, some 2 euros, some 10 euros per Sunday. We don't know who gives how much, we just count how much is for a Sunday, write it into the book and our church cash-keeper takes it to the bank. Bigger offerings are usually connected with anniversaries in family (birthdays, weddings, death anniversaries etc.). 6. End-time events - not an issue or a doctrine even here. Lord Jesus will come, there will be suffering and trials, than there will be new heaven and new earth. What will happen when - well, we will see, it is in the future and it's interesting to talk about, but arguing is pointless, because nobody knows. Pre-mil? Post-mil? What was the other one? No idea, not discussed in our church. 7. Predestination vs. Free will - according to Bible, and to Luther, salvation is free gift to sinners who cannot do anything to deserve or add to it. We can only accept it as God's gift, for so He loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so we would have eternal life (I apologize, I don't remember John 3,16 word-to-word in English). We are not Calvinists in saying God has chosen someone and condemned someone else before we were born, everyone has a free choice to accept because Jesus died for everyone. So, I guess we are against predestination in that sense. There is a possibility something was lost in translation between English and Slovak, because we don't believe that Free will = we do something for our salvation or add something to God's work of salvation, it's Jesus who did everything needed. I will listen to your video about it to understand your belief better. As it is, my grandmother was a Calvinist who after marriage became a member of her husband's congregation, and my friend, a Lutheran pastor, is married to a Calvinist pastor (but they are not in service anywhere right now, they lost their teenage son last year and needed time to get better, they were devastated, both mother and father). So, Lutheran and Calvinist churches in Slovakia are very close, we maintain our beliefs, but work together. Maybe because there are so few of us compared to Roman Catholics (over 60% of population)... Wow. Sorry if I wrote more than is acceptable. Not sure if you're going to read it... Anyway, God bless your work and let Holy Spirit lead you!
Your perspective on Christians and demons was very refreshing and something I whole hardily agree with, as well as Spiritual gifts I agree with. After coming out of the hyper-charismatic movement it's nice to hear someone voice similar thoughts as mine. Thanks, Allen!!
Thank you for talking about the gifts of healing, miracles, and speaking in tongues. Also, about demons, spirits, and tithing. Much of my charismatic upbringing revolved around these things. A lot of legalism and fear.
All of the gifts are still in affect 1 Corinthians 1:7 until Jesus returns I’ve been a Christian for 40+ years! God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9! God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined! Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1! Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright ! So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says ! Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue. So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8! But if you’re a Calvinists it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“! Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try! Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
Good video, Allen 👏🏽 I especially agree about number 4 concerning music 🎶 Discernment is key in all things. Thanks for reminding us to focus on having unity in the essentials of our faith in Jesus Christ ✨️
Confirmation… I am screaming to the top of my lungs….Thank You Jesus.!!!! Brother Allen I couldn’t have said it better than this…, you divided each doctrine issues in three categories…1) Hersey, 2) Error, 3) Disagreement…. This has settle for me a lot of issues I have had with some biblical content with other Christians. We can all love one another and disagree. God didn’t make us robots but gave us free will. There are some non compromising regarding our beliefs which you shared. We do believe Jesus is God and he died on the cross and rose from the dead for our sins…. That’s the gospel.. He is The Only Savior.
Allan, these are great topics and I hope people take heed. The Church is really becoming divided lately. We need to stay in The Word, praying continuously! People need to be more discerning! The first thing that Jesus warned about the last days is to be careful not to be deceived! The evil one wants us all fighting so our witness will not be effective!
He said to earnestly contend for the Faith because in the Last Days the flock will seek to have their ears scratched with gentle but error-filled teaching. Compromise for unity sake is not the command.
❤ Thank you Pastor Allan for this video. Honestly this message has been a blessing to me and my family. We are growing Christians aspiring everyday to uncover more that is in the word of God. This has not only taught me how to have a healthy disagreement but how to also encourage one another even with different perspectives.
Thank you, Pastor Allen Parr, you are truly a blessing! I love watching your videos and hearing your teachings! Your ministry is such a blessing. You are one of the few pastors out there that I can trust to teach true biblical teachings. Thank you so much!
Why is it fantastic? Why is it wrong to debate Biblical subjects and interpretations? Who decides which subjects are "non-essential" and who decides which interpretation to accept?
@@TodaysDante Allen never claimed we should not debate these things, but rather that we should not argue dvisively about them. Churches so often are split and torn apart by disagreements over non-salvation issues like the ones he mentioned in this video, and that is the point he is making. Non-essential means that your viewpoint on the subject will not affect your salvation. You are still saved through faith even if you believe that Scripture does/does not prohibit women from being teachers in the church, or that listening to certain songs is/is not okay, or that predestination is/is not scriptural. The Bible teaches us what is fundamentally required in order to be saved, and then tells us not to split or be divisive over things that are uncertain, or that are "gray" areas. I hope that makes sense. Peace, brother, and God bless. 🙏
@@krystahamor4790 - LOL - That's exactly what this video is about. Debate IS an argument. And holding different positions IS divisive. If it wasn't, we would all be in ONE Church... the Roman Catholic Church.
I am kind of unsure about the worship thing. I started listening to elevations sermons after a long time of listening to their songs. At first I agreed with what I heard because I had never encountered wrong teaching before. But after a while I realised that some things don’t add up, so I started reading along in my bible and fact-checking with it. This experience led me to realise that elevation church’s teachings are wrong and I started researching more about that topic which also led to churches like you said - hill song, bethel etc. BUT this made me start to be way more discerning when it comes to any sermon or teaching and I started my general bible-reading journey. So it definitely had a big positive impact on my life and my relationship with God after all. I still listen to and sing many of their songs (I’m a worship singer) because they have a lot of biblical truths in them but I am not sure if that’s the correct approach because there is no guarantee that every person in the congregation who looks at those churches will be able to discern what’s right and what isn’t.
Just finished the introduction. Had a quick thought. I like the distinction between heresy, error and disagreement! Good categories. Problem is, we will always disagree on what doctrines "fit" each category lol. What you might consider "disagreement," another might consider "heresy." How do we reconcile these things? I think history shows that we can't and we won't. OK, back to the video!
Just stumbled across your channel and from what I've seen you appear to be a very wise, mature, balanced, and nuanced thinker and teacher of God's word.
Why do people (including Allen in this video) always use the term “senior pastor” but almost never talk about eldership in the context of female leadership in the church? As far as I can see biblically, women can have any position in the church except elder (and the assumption would be that the “senior pastor” would also be an elder).
@@wayneeby7187 with all due respect brother elder cannot equal board member. Board member is a concept from the corporate or business world. Elder is a biblical term and the qualifications are described in 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9
Minister Allen, I listened to you on many topics, but at the end of the day, I must seek out the answers for myself through praying and fasting. Sometimes, I think many people are teaching and preaching from head knowledge and not seeking God to lead them by the Holy Spirit. So, therefore, whenever I don't understand something, I ask God for wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. The Holy Spirit will never miss lead me, not saying you are, but you could be wrong on some things.
Amen! The Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth just like Jesus told His disciples in John chapters 14 and 16. I've realized most will not understand one led by the Holy Spirit, even in the church sadly.
Man brother I just started researching you. I was made aware you will be a speaker for Men of Iron in Brownwood, Texas April 5-6 2024. I will be with the Worship Band playing Bass. I am so anxious to meet you! Your practical teaching and common sense explanations are changing me!! Im "older" and thought i "Got IT"! but your illustrations and Explanations are absolutely life giving! You are motivating me to be a better "Man" for Christ. Im truly truly grateful for you and your ministry. Note: I think I have only commented online to maybe two youtube channels in Total! So, this isn't like some random quick statement made by a creepy, weird and Disconnected Dude but is rather a very sincere compliment to encourage you (by a Creepy, Weird, and a "little" Disconnected Dude). I just prayed for your well being and your household that love and kindness are present wherever you are and that Gods glory be upon you and your ministry. Thank you Brother P.S. I do not do social media. My wife says I cant handle it! so maybe i could have shared this some other way but when Im feeling led. I just follow!
This is seriously much needed I have had thoughts on all these things and have wrestled with all of these but specifically 7, 2 and 1. Thank you brother Parr for always tackling topics to unite and build up the body!!! ✝️
I do think the issue of women pastor is one of the more important issues. We can disagree over free will and baptism without leading the church into sin, as both sides of these arguments have convincing scriptural arguments and historical precedent. The Church had the same position on women pastors for 95% of church history and the scriptures are clear here, going against scripture in this issue leads the church into more than just difference in interpretation, but into the Church not operating as God designed it. True believers can believe women can be pastors and be saved, but the Word is clear how the Church is to function and we have to stand on God’s Word.
There is no scriptural case against baptism. Christ stated multiple times in very clear terms that baptism is a must(Jhn 3, Matt. 28). Paul even states in Heb. 6:1-2 that baptism is a basic tenet of biblical Christianity. The ppl who argue against baptism do so because they are dishonest ppl. Christ said it must be done, the apostles said it must be done, therefore it must be done.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 what I meant was modes of baptism, such as immersion or sprinkling. We all can agree baptism is a must. I meant that while different positions on this issue have convincing biblical arguments, those who support women pastors do not
Thank you so much for this Bro. Allen, this video come just in the nick of time. We (some members of my church) are facing many disagreements for the past six months in the church that I attend and these are some of the issues that we argue about and besides that, we have too many judges but not many peacemakers. So I am grateful that I've come across this video and have shared it on one of my social media platform in the hopes that some of my friends and family can see it and realise that they should not let things of these nature divide us, but instead unite us and draw us closer in fellowship in Christ Jesus.
Wonderful, brother! Thank you for this. I would add one: paedobaptism vs. credobaptism. I’m a Presbyterian (CREC) and I absolutely love my Baptist brothers and sisters and the productive conversations I have with them on the topic.
Very nice job. I concur with much of the views you share and I love how you explain it in a way that I can research the scriptures to increase my knowledge. Thank you Allen. Please keep up the content.
Hi Allen! After YEARS of watching your UA-cam content, I'm sad to say that this is my FIRST EVER comment on any of your videos. With that said, I'll say as an overall viewer, your videos have been very beneficial to my growth in terms of life and theology. I may not agree with every single thing, but we are brothers in the faith nonetheless and I appreciate your faithfulness to consistent posting. Now, here's just another perspective based on this video overall: I don't think the 'arguments' over these 7 controversial topics/doctrines will cease for one GOOD reason. There are still souls being added to the Church daily. There will always be baby Christians who have questions and they're learning. As believers, we have a responsibility to make new believers aware of these 7 things. I didn't say teach them to believe what we believe, but simply to make them aware of the many different positions according to these doctrines. Inevitably, this would invite more questions and cause them to do more research. I think this is actually a good thing. As long as we're not breeding heretics, then I think there is a healthy form of debate that can lead to fruitful living at the end of the day. Great video! I'm just giving this perspective. Thanks so much and everyone be blessed!
Man this always bothers me, if someone makes a post there’s always people arguing in the comments about whatever the post was about. It’s ok to disagree on certain things but the division some arguments causes is sad.
Same. I see a nice non-arguable post then people raid the comment section and before you know it they are going back and forth on it with each other with over 1k replies it is so sad and frustrating. Even positive things are twisted and before I have always been inclined to clarify things for people when there was misunderstanding, but now after realizing it won’t ever stop it is always going to be the same I just gloss over it, not allowing it to bother me. Nothing changes it always the same.
11:40 Mark 16:17 - “And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues.” This verse is part of the Great Commission where Jesus also tells to us to make disciples and share the Gospel. To me thats a clear message to go and cast out demons. Now there’s a time and a place for deliverance but Mark 16 seems to imply that casting out demons is the job of a believer.
The EFCA does this very well, as it it open to all Christians and allows for Christians and pastors to teach and believe what teh will assuming the standards you laid out at the beginning of the video. I serve in it and we elders are 'Calvinist' but have many that attend despite differences because we always teach that these are secondary issues not worthy of division over.
I'm definitely intrigued a lot by the denomination. It's the denom of a couple of the churches I'm considering trying since I'm moving into a new area at the end of next month. My theology tends to be very Baptist but I also have some areas like on creation where I kind of break from how a lot of my fellow evangelicals read it. Unfortunately, it does seem like a lot of people take important but not clearly stated issues where reasonable and faithful Christians can disagree and elevate them to salvation-level issues, rather than doing what we should be doing: holding tight to the core of scripture and having grace for disagreement on things that are ambigious, unclear, or unstated.
So much respect for your take on "demon deliverance" ministries. They are so backwards in what they're doing to believers, totally sowing confusion about true salvation. God bless you!!! God bless all fellow Christians! ✝🙏💝!!!
When it comes to tithing or grace-giving, are you talking about only giving at church, or is giving outside of a church environment included as well? Maybe a dumb question, but I'm genuinely curious. I watched that part several times and couldn't really determine if it was only a church thing or anytime/anywhere kind of thing.
You should give as the Holy Spirit leads you to give whether in the church or outside the church. Giving directly to a family or organization that is in need of help, and as you are being led to do so, I believe is every bit as “spiritual” as dropping money into the church coffers. The key is to be obedient to the spirit.
As for the predestination/free will, I look at like this: If I tell a room of thirty 1st graders, none of which have any food allergies, that they can have a bowl of ice cream or a bowl of broccoli, but I can only bring 30 pre-selected bowls, I'm not bringing broccoli. I believe that God knows our hearts before we are ever conceived, and He knows if we want ice cream or broccoli. We are free to choose, but He already knows the choice.
I agree, but I think there’s more to it than just that. I believe our sin nature prevents us from freely choosing God; our natural inclination is to reject Him. We only gain the ability to freely choose Him once He has worked on our hearts and minds to enable us to truly hear and understand the gospel. He unlocks the door, freeing our will, then we have to accept and step through. He chooses to reveal Himself to some and not to others. Predestination vs free will isn’t an either/or situation, it’s both. He knows who will choose Him, and reveals Himself accordingly.
@Aqua...sounds likes ur clearly calvinist. How about Provisionist? I like Leighton Flower's channel on this thought. I believe we try to get in God's head and we can't possibly know. It says no one is without excuse because nature itself is a clear witness as to God's existence. So, that seems to do away with the argument that we despicable beings are so depraved we wouldn't possibly choose to believe, unless God has to draw us like a magnet. Then that means some aborted will go to hell even without living, which seems completely wrong.
Great video and teaching. I just recently learned of predestined in a study of Romans we are doing. This video is confirmation of what I've been studying and sharing with our group. As a woman, I really enjoy leading our small bible study. The Holy Spirit is revealing so much to me as I prepare for our study. Though we all bring different gifts, I too agree that women should not be in top pastoral roles. I don't know if it comes from my Catholic upbringing, but it has always been something I've felt strongly about. I've enjoyed this video primarily because it follows the teaching of Romans 14! Our group is not there yet, but I'm so anxious to share that with our group. Thank you again Pastor Parr, I'm so happy to have found your site. It is a blessing!
On the issue of demons, I'm of the view that they can harrass believers and Christians do have the authority to tell that demon to shut up and leave. Yes, you are correct about the possession part. Here's the interesting suggestion that came to mind, for you. I think you should do a collab with Isaiah or David Hernandez on this topic. Here's why. You just ended this segment with a great point. I think Christians do confuse their sinful nature with actual demonic activity. Though you may not totally agree, the two of you'd make for a powerhouse teaching video.
@@veronicagomez2165 oh, gosh! My memories of Bob Lawson from 1997. I went to one of his conference. You are part is, I was seriously hooding, and no one had a clue. I didn’t have demons, but I definitely had a very serious emotional words. Thank you Jesus for healing, my heart.
Brother Parr, here’s the Biblical position on Spiritual Gifts. All of the gifts are still in operation today. As you said, God does NOT change. However, all of the spiritual gifts are not acts that people just carry around. The Bible is clear in saying that these gifts are given as the Spirit gives them. You see healing as the Spirit heals. You see tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. We don’t carry these gifts around. God uses us in these gift when he sees fit. Hopefully this makes sense.
The main defense for the continuationist perspective is that God is unchanging. That fact doesn’t really make sense, as God has changed in some ways many times. God did not release the Holy Spirit onto the earth until Pentecost. Is that a change? God also did not even place these gifts into existence until after Jesus’ death. Is that a change? Jesus was in Heaven at the right hand of God, and transformed himself into a human as a sacrifice for our sins. Is that a change? The answer to all is yes; God changes through progression. The fundamentals of God cannot logistically change. He is the standard, He is all that is good, He is the master of all. But He certainly can progress the earth and all mechanisms in it to further His creation and His church. The spiritual gifts were used as signs of authority before we had the completed scriptures. The church is not in its infancy anymore. God bless
@@FatTLivRWhen we say that God doesn't change, we mean that God HIMSELF doesn't change. When God acts upon the world, that is not God changing His nature, but simply adding, taking away from, or changing His creation. In addition, Jesus always was and did not TRANSFORM into a man, but took on a Human nature IN ADDITION to His Divine nature. That is not to say that He changed, but rather became God incarnate. Jesus, though, always existed and has never changed (And this is why he shows up earlier in the Bible). That being said, since scripture does not speak about the cessation of gifts, I do not believe that they have ceased.
It's funny because I had a bad experience with a teaching one time and became the false prophet Rambo as a result 😅... Jesus quickly corrected me on that. Thanks for the clarification Sir Allen!
Allen, I understand and appreciate the video however the bible seems to be clear on some things and people twist the word. they should be warned. We don't have to argue but we do have to lovingly challenge and confront, especially where the word is so clear. We who teach will be under strict judgment. Teaching false or erroneous doctrine needs to be challenged with the hope the perpetrator would repent. Respect brother. 🙏🏾
I was listening until we got to number one then I had to stop the video real quick . I like that allen spoke about all these this in the video and I do believe that Christians shouldn't arguing out of anger , malice and or spite with each other because it does break fellowship with each other. GOD wants us all to be loving, kind, joyful, peaceful, and patient with each other and all times we should be practicing self control and bring gentle about it too whether we agree or not . I will never say the words " let's agree to disagree" because I don't agree with " lordship salvation"/ calvanistic teaching at all. First and foremost it's imperative that we are not taking Scripture out of context. What GOD says is The Truth it is The Truth The Bible never lies I understand if people debate in rightly dividing The Word of Truth and for example one might say that it is KJV only but I may disagree. But then you have something like Free Grace and " lordship" salvationist This is where I draw the line because I still Stand for The Truth and The True Gospel of Jesus Christ. This topic is so important it can cause a person's soul to be impacted forever. For all eternity. From damning heresy like lordship/ calvanistic teaching and beliefs . The teachings of lordship salvation is so dangerous that if one believes in "works for Salvation" or add works to THE POWERFUL PRECIOUS INNOCENT BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST basically what they're saying is that our Lord Jesus Christ's Blood isn't sufficient enough so they have to use human effort and their own merits to save themselves from eternal damnation. lordship salvation is a lie from hell and should be avoided at all times. No one is Saved from hell by working for their own Salvation. Paul spoke strongly against this in Galatians chapter 3 where it starts off with " o foolish galatians who has bewitched you" ? Please read the whole chapter please. We must only stand on The Word of GOD and not let man's understanding and philosophies persuade us other wise. john mcArthur who is a lordship salvationist and calvinistic pastor and paul washer who both believe you can lose your Salvation, or need evidence of it or you have to be " pre-elected" by GOD . This is very dangerous doctrine and this supports a false gospel because they believe you're saved by works and not by GOD'S Grace . The Bible says that we are Saved by Grace through faith in Christ Alone nothing more nothing less ❤️🙏 The Bible says that Salvation is a Free GIFT from GOD and not earned by man through works lest any man should boast. We must remember that the Salvific Power for Salvation does not come from man but ONLY JESUS CHRIST / HIS PRECIOUS INNOCENT POWERFUL BLOOD. Not man . Jesus says that no man is good no not one Only GOD is GOOD. to believe or imply that you can save your own self from death/ hell and just like the pharisees you have your own" righteousness" basically you are saying that you are good enough to save yourself from eternal damnation and you are saying you have no sin so that makes you a liar which The Bible says and you deceive yourself and you are calling GOD a liar which GOD CANNOT LIE EVER. Faith comes from just by Believing in what Jesus Christ did for us on that Cross and believing who He say He is and What He has done for all our sins . Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world. Not just few " pre elected " To imply that Jesus Christ only died for a few people is calling John 3:16 a lie and GOD'S WORD doesn't lies Ever . John 3:16 says this " For GOD so Love the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son (Jesus Christ) that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" . For GOD so Love the ( World ) it says world. There is so much in Scripture that supports Free Grace and not " lordship salvation" or " calvinistic teaching" I see pastors like paul washer and john mcArthur preaching false doctrine and preaches a different gospel other than the one in the Bible. especially with allen parr I didn't know he taught on this til recent and I unsubscribed because of this view he has that can send the lost to hell and send baby Christians into spiritual bondage. Once someone places their faith in Jesus Christ for Salvation Alone is saved and is sealed with The Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption. We cannot lose our Salvation. Once saved always saved No one can say that they can tell if a person is saved or not by their works/ or fruit check someone We can only go by what they believe and who the put their trust in this will show whether they truly believe in Jesus Christ or not . In the book of Acts it says that" sirs what must I do to be saved" and the response was " believe on The Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved and your house" Period nothing more nothing less just simply believe in Jesus Christ to be Saved . That is the simplicity of The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Is to believe. Even a child can be saved and understand you can't say to a child that " you are not going to Heaven because you didn't do enough works through out your life " smh no this is wrong if that child place their faith in Jesus Christ then they are saved. Let's say that this precious child is sick with cancer and only have a few days to live and they believe in Jesus Christ for their Salvation. Where would they go when they pass away . The answer is Heaven. For the wages of sin is death . No man can save themselves from hell all of was born separated from GOD and we all fall short of The Glory of GOD. No man is perfect but GOD. Let GOD be The Truth and let every man be a liar. Jesus Christ was a perfect sacrifice for man because Jesus is blameless, perfect and sinless . He know no sin but died a death like a theif on a cross He was tortured for our sins . He is The Only Way Jesus says I am The Way The Truth and The Life No one goes to The Father in Heaven except through Him. Jesus Christ LET ALL POWER GLORY HONOR PRAISE AND THANKS BE TO THE ALMIGHTY SOVEREIGN LIVING TRIUNE GOD IN HEAVEN FOREVER AND EVER AND ALWAYS IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME AMEN HALLELUJAH ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
Very true and well stated.. All people need to hear the gospel we want all to go to Heaven . God is sovereign and knows all but that doesn't mean we are puppets.. From Gen. On we see that we choose. He choose all of is to die for the whole world That is truth. Everytime an elected person os preached about( example.. Paul we love was probably elected..for his very. Very important mission, that doesn't everyone was. Jacob used also.. well He was extremely important in the Bible.. God used these these people in HuGe ways... So some yes maybe elected but we can't preach that he didn't die for alll. He knows alll but we get to chose by Faith when we hear the word and fall underconviction. To preach or teach anything else is a very dangerous thing to do when our Savior died once on the cross to take away the sins if the entire world... Before and after ... all people... Praise HIM
I agree with you on everything except your #1 issue...calvinism...I believe calvinism is a dangerous theology...I personally struggled with the concept (to the point of depression) for a long time and became discouraged, disappointed and felt hopeless with the idea that God would choose some over others for salvation when the bible clearly says that he loves everyone and that Jesus came so that all would come to repentance and none would be lost...I personally believe that the Holy Spirit draws all to salvation but that it's everyone's choice to either believe or not believe. Without that choice all you end up with are God chosen puppets that are simply doing what they've been pre-programmed to do.. (In a robot voice...I LOVE GOD NOT BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO LOVE GOD, BUT THAT I'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO LOVE GOD.) Do you really believe that God would want nothing more than pre-programmed puppets to love him in return. Not to mention, how can God hold accountable for their sin people who had no choice in being a sinner and people who had no ability to choose Jesus as their substitute for their sin. Makes no sense. Calvinism makes those that He "chose" prideful and arrogant
I understand where you're coming from and this is something I struggled to figure out as well when I was considering the theology of predestination. I definitely had to acknowledge based on certain passages of Scripture that predestination was a thing, biblically supported, but I wasn't sure what it actually meant. The conclusion I have come to -- and I make no claim that it is absolutely true, but it makes sense to me so I wanted to share -- is that if we believe that God is all-knowing, then that means He already knew before we were even created who would accept Him and who would reject Him. We're not robots who were arbitrarily chosen by God, like He was looking out over creation and saying, "I'll take that one...and that one...but not that one..." To me, it is just that He was already aware of what choices we would make. Still our choice, but He foreknew it. And that makes sense, because He is all-knowing, and knows the future. I don't feel like His knowledge of what choices I am going to make means that I don't have free will to choose, it just means that He knows me better than I know myself. Since He knew I would accept Him, He came after me, orchestrating the events in my life that He knew would lead me to Him. In that way I was predestined for salvation, but this did not interfere with my free will, in my mind. I don't know if that makes sense, if it helps, or even if my viewpoint is accurate, but those are my thoughts! (Feel free to chime in, Allen, I'd love to hear your viewpoint! 😆)
Completely agree. And you can still believe in eternal security. And God’s foreknowledge without Calvin’s predestination and limited atonement. Or God decreeing the evil in the world. Evil is due to sin and God uses it for good He does not decree it. God desires that all would be saved. Calvinism leads to more people walking away from the faith of their youth than any other doctrine in my opinion. And then the Calvinists say they were never saved. Well maybe they just really finally understood the ugly picture of God that you painted. The only alternative to Calvinism is not works based salvation either. It’s just free will choice. Choice is not a work. Faith is not a work. Picking a team is not a work. It’s just picking a team. God knew you would pick His team, but you still made the decision yourself.
Both are true, and it is explained in Revelation 3:20 “20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” By Christ Jesus knocking you are chosen, but you have the free will to answer that call or not.
@@krystahamor4790 I would have to ask why did God choose only the Hebrews prior to the sacrifice of His Son? Was that fair or right that another people wasn't chosen? Same with God choosing whom He will for salvation. If one is not first chosen by God one will not respond to that calling. That is Calvinism in play in my opinion. I'm not a die hard Calvinist by the way
Thank you Pastor Allen, I was going to a church that I honestly loved and held dear, but the more I read the word of God the more I would see and hear things that made me question. During tithing they would read the scriptures you mentioned all the time. I always felt guilted. And now I go to another church where he says we don’t take offering you give what you want to give that’s between you and God. Thank you for giving these prospectives.
Prophecy still exist. It’s wonderful getting dreams and visions about the world and my life come to pass. And they’re not vague they’re clear as day. But people can’t grasps what I tell them because they’re not living the life with me. The closest people to me see it happing and we’re overjoyed how God reveals it to us.
@@Simz199x I hope he continues to be with me if he is willing too. I wish the world knew the amazing things he did in my life in the easy and difficult times. I want to tell the world leaders I wish they stopped because it’s all real. Having the continued reassurance from him throughout my life gives me hope for the future. Him showing me where I will be, what I will be doing, what people are saying and thinking. In constant reminder each time I sleep. I have the full confidence that before I die I will get to see the things he revealed to me. That time will not pass away until I see what he revealed to me. It’s amazing seeing the events of the world twice. Before people know what will happen in the world, it has been set to happen. Before I even plan my goal, God reassures me that today it is yours. Who can take away what God has given to me or who can erase the boundaries that he set for me? God is real and to many even to believers this is just a story to them. Before I even worry where I will go or live, God already shows me the map and location. He reassures me of the place and people around me. I hear there conversations twice. I see events twice. Is anything impossible with God? I say all of this out of pure joy for God. I just wanted to share this with you. I have so much to say in detail but the comment section isn’t the place.
Hey, Richie, in love, I respectfully disagree. As pointed out by @Matthew, (& I commented elsewhere), I think Brother Allen is just pointing out what one pastor I had said, "The 5% of things that separate us aren't as important as the 95% of things that bind us." We can have strong convictions & support them Biblically but it's ok to say "I love you in Christ but I respectfully think you're wrong!" 😂 OK- my humor is wonky!
@@cmnelson2923 thanks brother for taking time to respond to my text. My point of departure is on women pastors. It's a subject that he earlier shed much light on but now making it kind of it's okay is wrong. The church is going astray due to this subject.
@@thebeatagp thanks a lot brother and may God bless you. This issue of women pastors you shed a light on it earlier. I had to save it for aid in my teachings to the church. Now opening it like it's okay is what's worrying me because this subject of women pastors is really misleading the church. Thanks again brother & may God bless you.
6:42 - this is really rich, Allen. Considering your latest video about why you stopped speaking in tongues literally starts with you mimicking and mocking the speaking in tongues. Maybe this video is things ALLEN PARR should stop arguing about? 😂 As you re-study 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 about spiritual gifts, please don’t forget 1 Corinthians. The greatest of all of these things - faith, hope and love - is love. Not mockery to your brethren who believe differently in the body of Christ. But love. Much love 🙏
I just found your post pastor, and I truly enjoy you and I will continue to subscribe because as a Christian, I truly believe in everything that you have said
Well done and well summarized on each non-essential topic. Praise God for your faithfulness to share your well studied perspective. One point, if you ever present on the topic of Calvinism, you must get to the pre-supposition of Augustinian influence which is based in secular roots.
@@dlsdyer9071thanks for your question. Augustine would be the presuppositional perspective that is the ground work for Calvinistic theology. “Augustine is so wholly within me that I could write my entire theology out of his writings.” A Treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God - Calvins Calvanism P.38 Augustine imposed a framework that derives from neo-platonism, Gnosticism, stoicism, and manicheaism. Seek that foundation to seek the err.
@@ServantofGOD__ Calvin was not gnostic. His synthesis of scripture into five doctrinal points are the antithesis of Gnosticism. The Arminian beliefs which counter all five points reduce Who God is. My God is Creator, Sustainer, All Powerful, Righteous, Holy and Loving. He provided a way for me and anyone whom He opened their eyes to their broken, sinful condition to be reconciled to Him by the shed blood and merits of Jesus Christ- His only begotten Son. It is nothing that I have done. There is nothing within me that spurred this on, only His transforming power. As the scripture says I am now a new creature/person. He continues to grow me daily to be more like Him. He brings out those fruit of the Spirit- love, joy, peace..
@@dlsdyer9071with grace you seem to be missing the primary point. Augustine so heavily influenced Calvin. Arminianism has nothing to do with the framework and foundation. This is simply a red herring that deals with differing perspectives during Calvin’s time. I highly encourage you to dig deep on ante-nicean fathers prior to Augustine. Then dig deep on Augustine and you will see where the five points of Calvinism derive from. Focus on the foundation of the framework. With grace and love.
Thank you for speaking your opinion quite clearly. I don't agree with some of what you say. But its so refreshing to hear someone brave enough to speak their opinion
Hey family! I really hope you enjoy this video and that it sheds light on what we should and should not be spending our precious time arguing over. Let me know your thoughts below! Enjoy!
Forgot to mention Bible translations! 😂🤣😂
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Hey brother thanks for all that you do for us. How should we take this passage on tithes?Matthew 23:23
English Standard Version
23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others
@@luiscortes313 I'm not Allen, but, I'd like to share this with you. Christians are not under the Law of Moses, therefore, we are not under any law to tithe. We are expected to give from our hearts. We are expected to support our Pastors, Preachers, Teachers, ect.. We are expected to give to the Church to keep it operating; paying electric, gas, water, ect., so we have a place to worship, fellowship, and learn the ways of God together as a family. Jews offered sacrifices that fed, and supported the Priests. The left overs were distributed to the poor. We do the same things but in different ways. Their laws are written on stones, ours are written on our hearts by the Holy Spirit that abides in us. I pray this helps you understand. Be blessed!!!
Thank you soooo much… lost a lot friends because of disagreements it had nothing to do with my salvation and belief in Jesus being LORD
We may disagree, but we don't disrespect. Well said. Thanks for helping us think through these issues.
I’m so disappointed you didn’t add the Sabbath to your list..
What about the issue of Baptism , and re- baptist
Brother Parr, You have proven yourself to be very level-headed, open-minded, and filled with common sense when exegeting the Scripture. Blessings to you.
I am a charismatic Christian, and it seems that I would probably disagree with you on at least half of these issues you have discussed. But even in the areas of disagreement, I could admit that I have seen things in church and in scripture that make it understandable how someone would come to a different conclusion on that issue. I love this video! You are a good Christian brother and I can see that you are trying to reflect Jesus' heart of love and unity. God bless you and may he bring all of the Christians in all denominations and groups together in unity centered on our faith in Jesus Christ and the core teachings of the gospel!
Amen brother! I respect you as a charismatic. You are my brother and I love you with the love of the Lord! Stay encouraged 👊🏾!
Great video brother! Let all of us talk to each other in the spirit and not the flesh, especially when we talk about these issues.
That was great. Thank you. We have the same beliefs. I remember once telling God I was going to walk away from my walk with Him. His reply was “I chose you.” Thank God He chose me. I fall on my knees and weep with gratitude. He chose me and He keeps me. What a mighty God we serve!
Thank God HE chooses in pure Grace and mercy.. Jesus tells us to come and he will not cast us out but IF you DO come --- HE chose to save you 😅
I really needed this video. I’ve been in the word like any other believer but I see so many UA-camrs state their opinion on these topics & a wide variety of others. I started confusing my sinful nature for demons and I felt like my salvation was coming into question. I started to turn into a Pharisee and started pointing my finger at others instead of dealing with the log 🪵 inside of my eye. Also, I struggle with some strongholds and I started to let that define my salvation instead of what was done on the Cross. Thank you Allen for all your videos. I copped one of your “ He said what He said shirts” as well 🙏🏼 God bless.
God bless you brother you are on the right track. Keep listening to folks like Pastor Parr.
I hear brother,until recently I was the same and understand the greatest commandment is love God love your neighbour as yourself,I believe we need to minister the truth in gentleness and kindness that means not affirming behaviours and sin,also means correction to the body of Christ with out hyprocracy and not to be mean spirited about it!the word of God is lamp!
Same, it’s like the more you learn the more questions arise. You start questioning what’s what due to all these different teachings. We should all just let the Holy Spirit guide us in Gods word. This is to myself as much as anyone else.
Go and make a good confession and Lord will foregive your sins. But the praxis shows that demons can posses christians. I do not know why, but they can.
Brave of you to share this, thank you for your vulnerability. Praise God for placing His servants in front of you to bring you closer to Him!
Well said Allen!! Let us not forget Love the most important commandment of them all ♥️ stay ready my brothers & sisters 🙏🏽🙌🏽
Yes
We need to distinguish "arguing" from discussing. I hope every believer feels the freedom to discuss their perspective and commend it to the conscience of others according to Scripture along with what we see as the strength of our view and the weakness and risks of opposing views. The harm comes when we make these honest differences of interpretation into reasons to cast aspersions or make accusations or demand "repentance" from those with differing views. This is where an honest discussion among brothers turns into argument and division.
Well said!
Also, we should choose when and how to have those conversations (if at all)!
This platform, for example, is definitely not suitable. We are all strangers on here and have little hope in ‘converting’ another stranger with our pithy or stringent statements on any given precept.
This is not the place.
A one on one, prayerful discussion with plenty of diving into the Bible is the way forward. If the conversation is deemed necessary at all! 🤗
@@caroleceres I would hope all of us are capable of having our minds and hearts changed by digging into the Bible. Strangers have changed my mind many times using Scripture. My plan is to "do unto others" and continue teaching every aspect of Scripture without intentionally avoiding topics just because some find them "controversial."
Did Jesus avoid controversial topics? Did the prophets? Did the evangelists? Did the Apostles? Circumcision was a controversial topic in Paul's day. He didn't avoid it.
@@jesusprofessor314 I think that I did not explain myself well enough. Which I suppose goes to prove my point.
I am sure that I didn’t say anything about avoiding biblical subject matters. I hoped that when I said that this and places like this, were not the forum to do so, people would have understood that I was advocating face to face biblical discussions.
Many times I have come across people slamming their points of views without due care or attention to à counterpoint view, with or without supporting scripture.
Nothing is gained. Tempers flare. Antagonism arises. No one ‘wins’.
I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. Yes we will have our minds changed by digging into the Bible, rather than digging into each other.
As an addendum: Jesus, Paul and the original Apostles were not strangers. We all know who they are, we quote them! We are assured that they were of God, washed by The Holy Spirit. They were well known people in their time.
You have no idea who I am, nor I you! We would have to learn from the Bereans and search the scriptures to verify anything that the other said to us. Then if we wanted to follow up or clarify, there’s little opportunity to do so.
That also is my point. These social media platforms do not necessarily lend themselves to that, because some people use them with the wrong motives/mindset.
Thank you Allen. I found myself thrown into deliverance ministry. When it occurred I realised that I had seen a “ghost”, when I was 9 years old. When we left that depressing house my father told me of what he had seen but worse still we had tenants at one time and their little boy was found virtually dead by the coal fire. He was rushed to the emergency room and spent time in hospital. He could do nothing for himself. He was only 2. Being Roman Catholics we had our priest come in and bless the house and although we could feel something was wrong, the priest could not get rid of it. The next time deliverance occurred I was an adult now living in South Africa where witchcraft, ancestor worship are frequently mixed with so called Christianity. I was blessed to be at a church who sent a man to our home and the demon took 3 days to get rid of. I’m not going into details other than we had been to Egypt a couple of years before and purchased a beautiful painting called “The River of Life”. None of the Egyptian Gods were in it. It was the Nile with fish, flowers, 😅birds and finished with Gold. This dear man took one look at it and told me to get it off the wall. As I got up on the sofa it came off the wall at me and removed plaster from the wall. That was a eye opener. Now at 72 I’m in a wheelchair most of the time, so no climbing on sofas. Since then I have been used in the deliverance ministry as God wills and since I’ve been in the wheelchair also. I fully agree with you that this is a specific calling on your life and have taught new Christians, that you have to know who you are in Jesus Christ. Do not get involved unless God calls you. Paul tells of the sons of Shiver who thought they could get rid of demons and the demons said Jesus we know, Paul we know, who are you? They were beaten by the demons and their clothes ripped. Bless you brother for all you do and your family also. Love from Johannesburg South Africa 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️😇😇😇🥰
Cast out unclean spirits in the name and authority of Jesus ONLY. No pomp. No ceremony. Just like the bible says
What do you call ghost. If you think it was a dead human, the bible speaks on the dead being dead. Jesus is the only one who has risen. I would say it could have been a demon or angel but not a dead human.
I really appreciate one of your lines: diversity in the church community. Sometimes, we can be so caught up on being religious and closed-minded that we misunderstand others. You never know how much of a blessing someone may be in your life if you don't listen to them.
People can be ardent in their views and consider opposing view as "close minded". In the culture I often hear people say that Christians are "close minded". But that really means since you do not agree with my point of view, then you have to be "close minded" (ie, something wrong with your thinking and conclusions)not to see my point of view. I do not think people are so much closed minded as much as they hold a different point of view. Ultimately that point of view my end up being right or wrong but it has nothing to do with a closed mind. People can be stubborn about their views and that can be good or bad depending on their views, but there is nothing wrong with being stubborn especially if you hold a correct view. Anyway, as you can see I have a thing about the term "Close Minded" Generally if I call some one "close minded" then I am being "close minded" about their views. It is similar to tolerance. The culture says that Christians are not tolerant of the cultures view. But please notice that they are not being tolerant of the Christian view. True tolerance (which no one practices) would entail tolerating Every Point of view. But that is not what happens in the culture. The culture wants you to embrace their point of view but will not accept your point of view. The thing is that they claim to be tolerant! So don't fall for the Tolerance trick from the culture. I think Christianity is pretty tolerant but its main focus is Truth. Christians do not promote everything the culture promotes. And the culture does not promote Christianity. Each side accepts some things and rejects other things. The culture promotes tolerance while not practicing it. Thanks for you post and I pray you bear with my rant! God Bless.
This video has been such a blessing to me. I find myself getting upset with other believers over these very topics. Thank you for helping me understand I don't have to do that. God bless!
So, you like to be dominated by men??
This was such a great video! It's just plain sound wisdom. Thankyou Allen. The church needs this more than ever, standing together...not accusing, condemning, or divisive about secondary issues. Amen.
Hi Allen. I think the gift of “tongues” is greatly misinterpreted. It is my understanding that the apostles speaking in “tongues” meant only that when they preached in they’re own native language, anyone listening to them heard the words in their own language, no matter where they were from. It was definitely not the “gibberish” I hear from those charismatics professing to be able to do the same!
So true but this fact blows up the United Penticostal Church!
This is my understanding as well
WHEN I PRAY IN TONGUES WHICH IS A HEAVENLY LANGUAGE MEANT FOR PRAYER BETWEEN YOU AND GOD TO EDIFY HIS WILL INTO YOUR LIFE SO SATAN CAN NOT HEAR AND KNOW...IS MEANT TO BE IN PRIVATE ONLY. I WRITE DOWN THE WORDS I HEAR DURING PRAYER AND ITS WORDS FROM ALL 12 HEBREW TRIBES OF TODAY ALSO SANSKRIT. IVE HEARD WORDS IN MY PRAYER LANGUAGE FROM EVERY POLYNESIAN LANGUAGE, AFRICAN, SPANISH, NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGES ECT. ALL THESE TRIBES ARE OF THE 12 DISBURSED HEBREW TRIBES. TRUE TONGUES IS NOT BABABA LALALA. IT IS A PRAYER OF ALL GODS LANGUAGES COMBINED. WHEN YOU HEAR TRUE TONGUES YOU'D UNDERSTAND.
i agree with this. its not gibberish by any means. its not babbling like people do now.
”For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won’t be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.“
1 Corinthians 14:2
This doesn’t sound like a earthly language
Thank you for this video! It's hard to be a united Church when we can't even discuss disagreements.
Good comments. Mighty brave of you to share your thoughts on each of these topics. So much fighting and church splitting has occurred over these topics.
Thank you Pastor Allen! This teaching is so needed on a global level.
I needed to hear that. Don’t break fellowship over disagreements. Thank you
Bro, I love this so much. Thank you for fighting for unity
What an INFORMATIVE and SPIRITUALLY sound video. I have shared it to many people who I think will benefit from it. Well done Allen!! 🙏🏾
We were just talking about predestination in our home fellowship. It was a good discussion and no arguing. Then one man spoke up and said, “No matter which it is, God did it!” To me it doesn’t matter. Just share the Gospel as we are told. I do agree with your view. This has been great! Thank you!
Predestination only deals with groups, never individuals; God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
But if you’re a Calvinists it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
Many peoples problems with this subject comes from bad physics. It is clear that God gave all so his creation free-will. He sits outside of his creation and knows the beginning and the end. God knows which sin you are going to commit next Thursday. He has seen your entire life and death and knows all the choices you have made and will make in the future. To the best of our knowledge, God’s creations have always had choice built in.
@@rednab2001 people don’t have to willfully sin. Jesus will save you from any addiction or sinful habit, and set you free.
First, John 1:7 “if you walk in the light as he is in a light… The blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin.“ If you don’t walk in the light, the blood of Jesus will not cleanse you from all sin!
Jesus, & the Bible are not dumb. He did not die on the cross, so people could keep on sinning…..fyi
I don't agree with (absolutely) everything this pastor says, but I am so glad that he's covering these topics, and opening this dialogue. Thank you!! This is really important.. ♥️
I dis-agree totally.
God is precise.
No lacuna in God's word,it is in black and white. Yes is yes and No is no.Period.
Allen, thanks so much for this video, especially the perspective on deliverance ministry and demonic possession.
I had gotten caught up into this for a brief moment a few weeks ago. After listening to a friend who is into deliverance ministry and listening to a few videos by a popular YT prophetess, I was convinced the mental turmoil I was experiencing was being caused by demonic influence /spirit in my life. I bought this book called Deliverance from demonic Possession and Curses written by a Nigerian Pastor.
I only read about 10-15 pages and immediately was stricken with the worst anxiety I had felt in years. I was borderline hallucinating. I got rid of the book repented.
I prayed and God revealed this very same thing to me. I cannot be possessed with a demonic spirit and also be saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. The two cannot coexist.
We wrestle against principalities but they don’t possess us as believers. I still communicate with my friend but I do realize that that path can be very perilous and can cause some real damage to one’s spiritual life.
I’m glad you got rid of that book. No need for it. Much of what people call a spirit or a demon is not that. It’s our flesh or mental health or something else. With that said, we do wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities and rulers which is demonic influence.
@@thebeatagp amen , I agree! Thank God for the revelation of this! And thank God for this ministry
The Church of God in Christ should not hv been taken as a denomination.
The Church of God in Christ is the Ecclesia/ Church/one Body, many members worldwide, not organizations with slight differences which is the definition of denoms. There should Never be slight differences with the Word of God! Denom organization have rules and regulations that do not align with the Holy Scriptures, which is the Constitution of the Kingdom of Elohim!
We are to be with one accord, unified, Psalm 133, and all the Scriptures.
This is just fantastic! Heresy, error and disagreement are absolutely very different and everyone must know the difference and aim to be Christlike and remain biblical based in approaching one another in love! I really love this preface! Thank you for not only what you say, but the wisdom the Lord has given you that you share with us and the way in which you do it with love. X
Wow this was so well done and helpful. I have struggled with seeing different Christian teachers I love calling each other false. This gave me the clarity I needed to move forward and not get stuck worrying about it. Thank you!!!
The Lord has really been working in my heart lately to extend more grace to Christians who don't believe exactly like me. He's shown me I'm not always as right as I think I am, and maybe there's room for some mystery. I hope and pray that I dont divide over things that aren't worthy of division but also fight for truth where it is warrented.
Thank you Allen for this. You always speak with humility and so much kindness. You make watching your channel a breeze. I'm learning a lot from you.
Well said and clearly explained. Be encouraged!
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15)
I always love how balanced and diplomatic you are, Allen. You have a gift of standing firm on truth, and yet being gentle and diplomatic on important issues. Praise God for your ministry to others. I hope your video helps mitigate the extremes that people always tend to swing towards.
Thank you for doing this video (as always)!
I had a pastor once say "the 5% of things that separate are really not as important as the 95% of things that bind us."
Re: Predestination/Free Will:
I always just believed that we are all presented with the the Truth of Salvation & it was up to each person to accept or despise it. But the Predestination part was that God knew, from the very beginning of time, who would accept his Gift and on them he built His Plans.
Does that make sense? Is it a cop-out or naïve?
That's a good take on it. I'm not 100% sure on how the free will vs. predestination part works, but I do trust it when God says some of saved and some are not... that this is true. And it's not his fault if someone rejects him. It seems to fly in the face of logic, which is pretty much true of many things in the Bible, so why should this one be any different? It flies in the face of logic that God would send his Son to save us in the first place.... so if I'm willing to believe that, then predestination shouldn't be too hard to believe either.
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The best analogy I thought of once was a father who leaves his son a great inheritance (that's the predestination/gift of salvation), but for whatever reason the son either doesn't believe it exists (atheism) or the son refuses it and pridefully goes his own way (all other reasons for rejection). The gift was there, it was given, it was in his name... but it does him no good and he has only himself to blame.
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Not perfect by a long stretch, but as close as I could come up with in my poor attempt to think about it.
@@sidwhiting665 Thank you, Sid. I like your answer, too. It really makes sense to me.
I disagree (respectfully) on both points.
The pastor’s error is putting every issue on the same level. But errors are divided between ‘heresy’ that costs salvation and ‘heterodox’ that doesn’t.
For examples, believing snake handling is heterodox, but believing you have to be symptom-free after being bitten by a water moccasin to be saved is heresy.
Sinners only need one heresy to remain damned, and the other 99% is irrelevant. Focusing on what’s shared is a path to peace, but there’s a reason God calls His Word a Sword.
Second point: When God looked forward across the ages, He saw Romans 3:11 and 1 Corinthians 2:14. Sin destined us to hell; God’s plan re-destines some to heaven. I give Calvinism a score of 65%, but Arminianism gets a score of only 35%.
On your take, I’d almost agree brother. I would say, yes, God knew from the beginning and on them he built his plan. To that, I would add a little more “It’s God” without no less taking away we have to receive. I know it’s somewhat confusing but it’s part of the mystery, which is it’s Him and we have to receive in the context of our lives. Either way, stay blessed brother.
@ricksonora6656 I agree with you and him. Because of cause there is hersey.
That's not the point of this let's use discernment to understand the point of what's being said. So yes your right but we aren't talking about hersey here.
Tithing is such a privilege to recognize and give thanks to God for His provision. It also enables us to supply our church with the ability to help others.🙌
Hello, I found this channel thanks to Dr. Turek's podcast I don't have enough faith to be an atheist, and this is the first video I watched. And though I know a few things about how it is in the USA, well... These issues or doctrines are very interesting and say a lot about your culture and society, and it was very informative and well done.
I'm not from the USA. I'm from Slovakia, that's central Europe. I belong to Slovak Lutheran church, which is very traditional. It's older than your country, it was established in 1610. Luther's teachings had actually arrived and been taught since 1520, and first confession (basically first attempt of creating new church) from my region was actually way back in 1549 (Confessio Pentapolitana). After 4 and half centuries, filled with lots of trials and tribulations, our church learnt to hold onto our Bible and refuse everything else.
One thing before I continue: Slovakia is small. As in, a little bit bigger than Mississippi state in size, but only 5,5 mil. people live here, and only 5,27% of Slovak population is a Lutheran. Everyone with Lutheran confession is in Slovak Lutheran church, but we have small local congregations with a few hundreds up to a few thousands people. My local congregation has around 770 people, but we belong to Slovak Lutheran church. We have one state bishop, two bishops for West and East part of Slovakia, and senior pastors for 8 regions of Slovakia. Every local church has a local pastor, or two, or maybe more (if there are more people, or it's a town with a senior pastor).
Our standing on these 7 doctrines you talked about (since you asked about our beliefs, hopefully it will interest you):
1. Women pastors - since 1920 we have our own Slovak Lutheran church (it had to do with establishment of Czechoslovakia after WW1) we have women pastors. In my home congregation, we actually have a married pair of pastors, the husband is the main pastor and his wife is an additional pastor. There are more such pairs in our church. However, we have single women pastors who lead their congregations on their own. Also, we have women pastors in position of senior pastors. As far as I can tell (from talking to those that I know personally), none of the women pastors wanted authority or whatever, it is all part of their service to God. That's it. True, I only know 5 or 6 women pastors personally, but there are more men than women pastors anyway.
To be honest, it is true that single women pastors have it harder, and not all of them remain in the service.
2. Spiritual gifts - that was a big issue among young people in church when a charismatic church came to Košice, our nearest town with a senior pastor. I personally was told by some of my friends from school that if I don't speak in tongues, I'm not saved and/or don't have the Holy Spirit in me. It affected our youth group a lot, but now it's fine. Unfortunately, quite a few of my friends have left our church because of that. Another big issue was the question of baptism - in our church babies are baptized, but some people from Baptist church who came to Košice said that it doesn't count. Even more friends left our youth group because of that.
3. Christians and demons - this is just in your country, nothing about it here.
4. Modern Christian music - we translate a LOT of American songs, and usually nobody even cares who is this or that song from. We also have our Slovak Christian singers and bands, and I like their music, too. But... once again, this is not our problem in the way you described.
5. Tithing - my first thought was: What is he talking about??? Honestly? Only after a couple of minutes I understood. In our church, we have a tax we pay that is non-negotiable (we have to pay it - is it correct word?) and every Sunday we give offerings that are completely free, up to us how much we give. I have a small role in this - I help with counting the small offerings after every Sunday in our local church (by "church" here I mean the building where we have services), and I can witness that some people give 50 cents, some 2 euros, some 10 euros per Sunday. We don't know who gives how much, we just count how much is for a Sunday, write it into the book and our church cash-keeper takes it to the bank. Bigger offerings are usually connected with anniversaries in family (birthdays, weddings, death anniversaries etc.).
6. End-time events - not an issue or a doctrine even here. Lord Jesus will come, there will be suffering and trials, than there will be new heaven and new earth. What will happen when - well, we will see, it is in the future and it's interesting to talk about, but arguing is pointless, because nobody knows. Pre-mil? Post-mil? What was the other one? No idea, not discussed in our church.
7. Predestination vs. Free will - according to Bible, and to Luther, salvation is free gift to sinners who cannot do anything to deserve or add to it. We can only accept it as God's gift, for so He loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son so we would have eternal life (I apologize, I don't remember John 3,16 word-to-word in English). We are not Calvinists in saying God has chosen someone and condemned someone else before we were born, everyone has a free choice to accept because Jesus died for everyone. So, I guess we are against predestination in that sense. There is a possibility something was lost in translation between English and Slovak, because we don't believe that Free will = we do something for our salvation or add something to God's work of salvation, it's Jesus who did everything needed. I will listen to your video about it to understand your belief better. As it is, my grandmother was a Calvinist who after marriage became a member of her husband's congregation, and my friend, a Lutheran pastor, is married to a Calvinist pastor (but they are not in service anywhere right now, they lost their teenage son last year and needed time to get better, they were devastated, both mother and father). So, Lutheran and Calvinist churches in Slovakia are very close, we maintain our beliefs, but work together. Maybe because there are so few of us compared to Roman Catholics (over 60% of population)...
Wow. Sorry if I wrote more than is acceptable. Not sure if you're going to read it... Anyway, God bless your work and let Holy Spirit lead you!
its great Kathy
Your perspective on Christians and demons was very refreshing and something I whole hardily agree with, as well as Spiritual gifts I agree with. After coming out of the hyper-charismatic movement it's nice to hear someone voice similar thoughts as mine. Thanks, Allen!!
Goodness! I am very grateful you decided to start this channel and share your thoughts! Your videos are always full of wisdom and balanced reason.
Thank you for talking about the gifts of healing, miracles, and speaking in tongues. Also, about demons, spirits, and tithing. Much of my charismatic upbringing revolved around these things. A lot of legalism and fear.
All of the gifts are still in affect 1 Corinthians 1:7 until Jesus returns
I’ve been a Christian for 40+ years! God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
But if you’re a Calvinists it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!
This is a very important message letting us know what our core belief should be and that there are some points where we can agree to disagree.
Good video, Allen 👏🏽 I especially agree about number 4 concerning music 🎶 Discernment is key in all things. Thanks for reminding us to focus on having unity in the essentials of our faith in Jesus Christ ✨️
Thanks!
Confirmation… I am screaming to the top of my lungs….Thank You Jesus.!!!! Brother Allen I couldn’t have said it better than this…, you divided each doctrine issues in three categories…1) Hersey, 2) Error, 3) Disagreement…. This has settle for me a lot of issues I have had with some biblical content with other Christians. We can all love one another and disagree. God didn’t make us robots but gave us free will. There are some non compromising regarding our beliefs which you shared. We do believe Jesus is God and he died on the cross and rose from the dead for our sins…. That’s the gospel.. He is The Only Savior.
Amen!!
Fantastic topic and content here. Thoroughly enjoyed! Thank you Allen!!!
Allan, these are great topics and I hope people take heed. The Church is really becoming divided lately. We need to stay in The Word, praying continuously! People need to be more discerning! The first thing that Jesus warned about the last days is to be careful not to be deceived! The evil one wants us all fighting so our witness will not be effective!
He said to earnestly contend for the Faith because in the Last Days the flock will seek to have their ears scratched with gentle but error-filled teaching. Compromise for unity sake is not the command.
❤ Thank you Pastor Allan for this video. Honestly this message has been a blessing to me and my family. We are growing Christians aspiring everyday to uncover more that is in the word of God. This has not only taught me how to have a healthy disagreement but how to also encourage one another even with different perspectives.
Thank you, Pastor Allen Parr, you are truly a blessing! I love watching your videos and hearing your teachings! Your ministry is such a blessing. You are one of the few pastors out there that I can trust to teach true biblical teachings. Thank you so much!
Fantastic video, thank you Allen! I always look forward to learning from the wisdom God has given you.
Why is it fantastic? Why is it wrong to debate Biblical subjects and interpretations? Who decides which subjects are "non-essential" and who decides which interpretation to accept?
@@TodaysDante Allen never claimed we should not debate these things, but rather that we should not argue dvisively about them. Churches so often are split and torn apart by disagreements over non-salvation issues like the ones he mentioned in this video, and that is the point he is making. Non-essential means that your viewpoint on the subject will not affect your salvation. You are still saved through faith even if you believe that Scripture does/does not prohibit women from being teachers in the church, or that listening to certain songs is/is not okay, or that predestination is/is not scriptural. The Bible teaches us what is fundamentally required in order to be saved, and then tells us not to split or be divisive over things that are uncertain, or that are "gray" areas. I hope that makes sense. Peace, brother, and God bless. 🙏
@@krystahamor4790 - LOL - That's exactly what this video is about. Debate IS an argument. And holding different positions IS divisive. If it wasn't, we would all be in ONE Church... the Roman Catholic Church.
Most leaders of these churches are not called by God.
We are eternal secure in God's love.
This is a much needed topic to address during these times, props to you Allen keep up leading in grace and truth! ❤️
I am kind of unsure about the worship thing. I started listening to elevations sermons after a long time of listening to their songs. At first I agreed with what I heard because I had never encountered wrong teaching before. But after a while I realised that some things don’t add up, so I started reading along in my bible and fact-checking with it. This experience led me to realise that elevation church’s teachings are wrong and I started researching more about that topic which also led to churches like you said - hill song, bethel etc.
BUT this made me start to be way more discerning when it comes to any sermon or teaching and I started my general bible-reading journey. So it definitely had a big positive impact on my life and my relationship with God after all.
I still listen to and sing many of their songs (I’m a worship singer) because they have a lot of biblical truths in them but I am not sure if that’s the correct approach because there is no guarantee that every person in the congregation who looks at those churches will be able to discern what’s right and what isn’t.
Thank you for covering this topic. Well done. It is something I have wanted to hear.
I’m a simple man. I see a video about proper doctrine.
& I hit like. Instantly!🎯🙏🏾
Lol!!! Love it!
Wonderful video Brother Allen! It’s so important to have unity in the body of Christ above all, even if we might disagree on some of the fine points!!
Just finished the introduction. Had a quick thought. I like the distinction between heresy, error and disagreement! Good categories. Problem is, we will always disagree on what doctrines "fit" each category lol. What you might consider "disagreement," another might consider "heresy." How do we reconcile these things? I think history shows that we can't and we won't. OK, back to the video!
Amen, brother! I’m tired of the arguing!!
Just stumbled across your channel and from what I've seen you appear to be a very wise, mature, balanced, and nuanced thinker and teacher of God's word.
Bro. Allen your teachings are simply AWESOME! Thank you so much for all you do for the entire “Beat” family!🙏🏾🥰💞
Why do people (including Allen in this video) always use the term “senior pastor” but almost never talk about eldership in the context of female leadership in the church? As far as I can see biblically, women can have any position in the church except elder (and the assumption would be that the “senior pastor” would also be an elder).
100% I kinda cringe when I hear the term senior pastor perhaps he should've just clarified what that meant.
@@wayneeby7187 with all due respect brother elder cannot equal board member. Board member is a concept from the corporate or business world. Elder is a biblical term and the qualifications are described in 1 Timothy 3:1-7, Titus 1:5-9
@@AntGray13 you are right. I confused titles.
This!
Minister Allen, I listened to you on many topics, but at the end of the day, I must seek out the answers for myself through praying and fasting. Sometimes, I think many people are teaching and preaching from head knowledge and not seeking God to lead them by the Holy Spirit. So, therefore, whenever I don't understand something, I ask God for wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. The Holy Spirit will never miss lead me, not saying you are, but you could be wrong on some things.
Amen! The Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth just like Jesus told His disciples in John chapters 14 and 16. I've realized most will not understand one led by the Holy Spirit, even in the church sadly.
He said it's according to the Bible what you mean read the word
Man brother I just started researching you. I was made aware you will be a speaker for Men of Iron in Brownwood, Texas April 5-6 2024. I will be with the Worship Band playing Bass. I am so anxious to meet you! Your practical teaching and common sense explanations are changing me!! Im "older" and thought i "Got IT"! but your illustrations and Explanations are absolutely life giving! You are motivating me to be a better "Man" for Christ. Im truly truly grateful for you and your ministry.
Note: I think I have only commented online to maybe two youtube channels in Total! So, this isn't like some random quick statement made by a creepy, weird and Disconnected Dude but is rather a very sincere compliment to encourage you (by a Creepy, Weird, and a "little" Disconnected Dude). I just prayed for your well being and your household that love and kindness are present wherever you are and that Gods glory be upon you and your ministry. Thank you Brother
P.S. I do not do social media. My wife says I cant handle it! so maybe i could have shared this some other way but when Im feeling led. I just follow!
This is seriously much needed I have had thoughts on all these things and have wrestled with all of these but specifically 7, 2 and 1. Thank you brother Parr for always tackling topics to unite and build up the body!!! ✝️
I do think the issue of women pastor is one of the more important issues. We can disagree over free will and baptism without leading the church into sin, as both sides of these arguments have convincing scriptural arguments and historical precedent. The Church had the same position on women pastors for 95% of church history and the scriptures are clear here, going against scripture in this issue leads the church into more than just difference in interpretation, but into the Church not operating as God designed it. True believers can believe women can be pastors and be saved, but the Word is clear how the Church is to function and we have to stand on God’s Word.
There is no scriptural case against baptism. Christ stated multiple times in very clear terms that baptism is a must(Jhn 3, Matt. 28). Paul even states in Heb. 6:1-2 that baptism is a basic tenet of biblical Christianity. The ppl who argue against baptism do so because they are dishonest ppl. Christ said it must be done, the apostles said it must be done, therefore it must be done.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 what I meant was modes of baptism, such as immersion or sprinkling. We all can agree baptism is a must. I meant that while different positions on this issue have convincing biblical arguments, those who support women pastors do not
Thank you so much for making this video, this channel is such a blessing, been watching you for years now!
Thank you so much for this Bro. Allen, this video come just in the nick of time. We (some members of my church) are facing many disagreements for the past six months in the church that I attend and these are some of the issues that we argue about and besides that, we have too many judges but not many peacemakers. So I am grateful that I've come across this video and have shared it on one of my social media platform in the hopes that some of my friends and family can see it and realise that they should not let things of these nature divide us, but instead unite us and draw us closer in fellowship in Christ Jesus.
Wonderful, brother! Thank you for this.
I would add one: paedobaptism vs. credobaptism. I’m a Presbyterian (CREC) and I absolutely love my Baptist brothers and sisters and the productive conversations I have with them on the topic.
Very nice job. I concur with much of the views you share and I love how you explain it in a way that I can research the scriptures to increase my knowledge. Thank you Allen. Please keep up the content.
Hi Allen! After YEARS of watching your UA-cam content, I'm sad to say that this is my FIRST EVER comment on any of your videos. With that said, I'll say as an overall viewer, your videos have been very beneficial to my growth in terms of life and theology. I may not agree with every single thing, but we are brothers in the faith nonetheless and I appreciate your faithfulness to consistent posting. Now, here's just another perspective based on this video overall:
I don't think the 'arguments' over these 7 controversial topics/doctrines will cease for one GOOD reason. There are still souls being added to the Church daily. There will always be baby Christians who have questions and they're learning. As believers, we have a responsibility to make new believers aware of these 7 things. I didn't say teach them to believe what we believe, but simply to make them aware of the many different positions according to these doctrines. Inevitably, this would invite more questions and cause them to do more research. I think this is actually a good thing. As long as we're not breeding heretics, then I think there is a healthy form of debate that can lead to fruitful living at the end of the day.
Great video! I'm just giving this perspective. Thanks so much and everyone be blessed!
Man this always bothers me, if someone makes a post there’s always people arguing in the comments about whatever the post was about. It’s ok to disagree on certain things but the division some arguments causes is sad.
Yep, my point exactly. Very sad to see.
Same. I see a nice non-arguable post then people raid the comment section and before you know it they are going back and forth on it with each other with over 1k replies it is so sad and frustrating. Even positive things are twisted and before I have always been inclined to clarify things for people when there was misunderstanding, but now after realizing it won’t ever stop it is always going to be the same I just gloss over it, not allowing it to bother me. Nothing changes it always the same.
11:40 Mark 16:17 - “And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues.” This verse is part of the Great Commission where Jesus also tells to us to make disciples and share the Gospel. To me thats a clear message to go and cast out demons. Now there’s a time and a place for deliverance but Mark 16 seems to imply that casting out demons is the job of a believer.
The EFCA does this very well, as it it open to all Christians and allows for Christians and pastors to teach and believe what teh will assuming the standards you laid out at the beginning of the video.
I serve in it and we elders are 'Calvinist' but have many that attend despite differences because we always teach that these are secondary issues not worthy of division over.
I'm definitely intrigued a lot by the denomination. It's the denom of a couple of the churches I'm considering trying since I'm moving into a new area at the end of next month.
My theology tends to be very Baptist but I also have some areas like on creation where I kind of break from how a lot of my fellow evangelicals read it. Unfortunately, it does seem like a lot of people take important but not clearly stated issues where reasonable and faithful Christians can disagree and elevate them to salvation-level issues, rather than doing what we should be doing: holding tight to the core of scripture and having grace for disagreement on things that are ambigious, unclear, or unstated.
So much respect for your take on "demon deliverance" ministries. They are so backwards in what they're doing to believers, totally sowing confusion about true salvation. God bless you!!! God bless all fellow Christians! ✝🙏💝!!!
I would totally agree!
I disagree
When it comes to tithing or grace-giving, are you talking about only giving at church, or is giving outside of a church environment included as well? Maybe a dumb question, but I'm genuinely curious. I watched that part several times and couldn't really determine if it was only a church thing or anytime/anywhere kind of thing.
You should give as the Holy Spirit leads you to give whether in the church or outside the church. Giving directly to a family or organization that is in need of help, and as you are being led to do so, I believe is every bit as “spiritual” as dropping money into the church coffers. The key is to be obedient to the spirit.
As for the predestination/free will, I look at like this: If I tell a room of thirty 1st graders, none of which have any food allergies, that they can have a bowl of ice cream or a bowl of broccoli, but I can only bring 30 pre-selected bowls, I'm not bringing broccoli. I believe that God knows our hearts before we are ever conceived, and He knows if we want ice cream or broccoli. We are free to choose, but He already knows the choice.
I have always looked at it in that way too; That God knew before we were born who would receive Him and who would reject Him.
I agree, but I think there’s more to it than just that. I believe our sin nature prevents us from freely choosing God; our natural inclination is to reject Him. We only gain the ability to freely choose Him once He has worked on our hearts and minds to enable us to truly hear and understand the gospel. He unlocks the door, freeing our will, then we have to accept and step through. He chooses to reveal Himself to some and not to others. Predestination vs free will isn’t an either/or situation, it’s both. He knows who will choose Him, and reveals Himself accordingly.
That's basically the free will / Arminian position
@Aqua...sounds likes ur clearly calvinist. How about Provisionist? I like Leighton Flower's channel on this thought. I believe we try to get in God's head and we can't possibly know. It says no one is without excuse because nature itself is a clear witness as to God's existence. So, that seems to do away with the argument that we despicable beings are so depraved we wouldn't possibly choose to believe, unless God has to draw us like a magnet. Then that means some aborted will go to hell even without living, which seems completely wrong.
Not it, but the Bible in Romans says noone is without excuse
Great video and teaching. I just recently learned of predestined in a study of Romans we are doing. This video is confirmation of what I've been studying and sharing with our group. As a woman, I really enjoy leading our small bible study. The Holy Spirit is revealing so much to me as I prepare for our study. Though we all bring different gifts, I too agree that women should not be in top pastoral roles. I don't know if it comes from my Catholic upbringing, but it has always been something I've felt strongly about. I've enjoyed this video primarily because it follows the teaching of Romans 14! Our group is not there yet, but I'm so anxious to share that with our group. Thank you again Pastor Parr, I'm so happy to have found your site. It is a blessing!
Thanks
He didn't say the carpet color. Fight about the carpet color.
On the issue of demons, I'm of the view that they can harrass believers and Christians do have the authority to tell that demon to shut up and leave. Yes, you are correct about the possession part. Here's the interesting suggestion that came to mind, for you.
I think you should do a collab with Isaiah or David Hernandez on this topic. Here's why. You just ended this segment with a great point. I think Christians do confuse their sinful nature with actual demonic activity. Though you may not totally agree, the two of you'd make for a powerhouse teaching video.
I think he should collab with Dr Bob Larson, he is 50 years deep.
@@veronicagomez2165 oh, gosh! My memories of Bob Lawson from 1997. I went to one of his conference. You are part is, I was seriously hooding, and no one had a clue. I didn’t have demons, but I definitely had a very serious emotional words. Thank you Jesus for healing, my heart.
Brother Parr, here’s the Biblical position on Spiritual Gifts. All of the gifts are still in operation today. As you said, God does NOT change. However, all of the spiritual gifts are not acts that people just carry around. The Bible is clear in saying that these gifts are given as the Spirit gives them. You see healing as the Spirit heals. You see tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. We don’t carry these gifts around. God uses us in these gift when he sees fit. Hopefully this makes sense.
I agree 100%
Watch his more recent video about tongues.
The main defense for the continuationist perspective is that God is unchanging. That fact doesn’t really make sense, as God has changed in some ways many times.
God did not release the Holy Spirit onto the earth until Pentecost. Is that a change?
God also did not even place these gifts into existence until after Jesus’ death. Is that a change?
Jesus was in Heaven at the right hand of God, and transformed himself into a human as a sacrifice for our sins. Is that a change?
The answer to all is yes; God changes through progression. The fundamentals of God cannot logistically change. He is the standard, He is all that is good, He is the master of all. But He certainly can progress the earth and all mechanisms in it to further His creation and His church.
The spiritual gifts were used as signs of authority before we had the completed scriptures. The church is not in its infancy anymore. God bless
@MasonStPeter-oe8tu Great points! Thats such a misquoted attribute.
@@FatTLivRWhen we say that God doesn't change, we mean that God HIMSELF doesn't change. When God acts upon the world, that is not God changing His nature, but simply adding, taking away from, or changing His creation.
In addition, Jesus always was and did not TRANSFORM into a man, but took on a Human nature IN ADDITION to His Divine nature. That is not to say that He changed, but rather became God incarnate. Jesus, though, always existed and has never changed (And this is why he shows up earlier in the Bible).
That being said, since scripture does not speak about the cessation of gifts, I do not believe that they have ceased.
Thank you Allen. May your tribe increase and may we all calm down a bit.
I really enjoyed your video. We Christians need to love each other even if we disagree with each other.
It's funny because I had a bad experience with a teaching one time and became the false prophet Rambo as a result 😅... Jesus quickly corrected me on that. Thanks for the clarification Sir Allen!
Allen, I understand and appreciate the video however the bible seems to be clear on some things and people twist the word. they should be warned. We don't have to argue but we do have to lovingly challenge and confront, especially where the word is so clear. We who teach will be under strict judgment. Teaching false or erroneous doctrine needs to be challenged with the hope the perpetrator would repent. Respect brother. 🙏🏾
I was listening until we got to number one then I had to stop the video real quick . I like that allen spoke about all these this in the video and I do believe that Christians shouldn't arguing out of anger , malice and or spite with each other because it does break fellowship with each other. GOD wants us all to be loving, kind, joyful, peaceful, and patient with each other and all times we should be practicing self control and bring gentle about it too whether we agree or not .
I will never say the words " let's agree to disagree" because I don't agree with " lordship salvation"/ calvanistic teaching at all.
First and foremost it's imperative that we are not taking Scripture out of context.
What GOD says is The Truth it is The Truth The Bible never lies
I understand if people debate in rightly dividing The Word of Truth and for example one might say that it is KJV only but I may disagree.
But then you have something like Free Grace and " lordship" salvationist
This is where I draw the line because I still Stand for The Truth and The True Gospel of Jesus Christ.
This topic is so important it can cause a person's soul to be impacted forever. For all eternity.
From damning heresy like lordship/ calvanistic teaching and beliefs .
The teachings of lordship salvation is so dangerous that if one believes in "works for Salvation" or add works to THE POWERFUL PRECIOUS INNOCENT BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST basically what they're saying is that our Lord Jesus Christ's Blood isn't sufficient enough so they have to use human effort and their own merits to save themselves from eternal damnation. lordship salvation is a lie from hell and should be avoided at all times.
No one is Saved from hell by working for their own Salvation.
Paul spoke strongly against this in Galatians chapter 3 where it starts off with " o foolish galatians who has bewitched you" ? Please read the whole chapter please.
We must only stand on The Word of GOD and not let man's understanding and philosophies persuade us other wise.
john mcArthur who is a lordship salvationist and calvinistic pastor and paul washer who both believe you can lose your Salvation, or need evidence of it or you have to be " pre-elected"
by GOD .
This is very dangerous doctrine and this supports a false gospel because they believe you're saved by works and not by GOD'S Grace .
The Bible says that we are Saved by Grace through faith in Christ Alone nothing more nothing less ❤️🙏
The Bible says that Salvation is a Free GIFT from GOD and not earned by man through works lest any man should boast.
We must remember that the Salvific Power for Salvation does not come from man but ONLY JESUS CHRIST / HIS PRECIOUS INNOCENT POWERFUL BLOOD. Not man .
Jesus says that no man is good no not one Only GOD is GOOD.
to believe or imply that you can save your own self from death/ hell and just like the pharisees you have your own" righteousness" basically you are saying that you are good enough to save yourself from eternal damnation and you are saying you have no sin so that makes you a liar which The Bible says and you deceive yourself and you are calling GOD a liar which GOD CANNOT LIE EVER.
Faith comes from just by Believing in what Jesus Christ did for us on that Cross and believing who He say He is and What He has done for all our sins .
Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world. Not just few " pre elected "
To imply that Jesus Christ only died for a few people is calling John 3:16 a lie and GOD'S WORD doesn't lies Ever .
John 3:16 says this " For GOD so Love the world that He gave His Only Begotten Son (Jesus Christ) that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" .
For GOD so Love the ( World ) it says world.
There is so much in Scripture that supports Free Grace and not " lordship salvation" or " calvinistic teaching"
I see pastors like paul washer and john mcArthur preaching false doctrine and preaches a different gospel other than the one in the Bible.
especially with allen parr I didn't know he taught on this til recent and I unsubscribed because of this view he has that can send the lost to hell and send baby Christians into spiritual bondage.
Once someone places their faith in Jesus Christ for Salvation Alone is saved and is sealed with The Holy Spirit until the Day of Redemption.
We cannot lose our Salvation.
Once saved always saved
No one can say that they can tell if a person is saved or not by their works/ or fruit check someone
We can only go by what they believe and who the put their trust in this will show whether they truly believe in Jesus Christ or not .
In the book of Acts it says that" sirs what must I do to be saved" and the response was " believe on The Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved and your house"
Period nothing more nothing less just simply believe in Jesus Christ to be Saved .
That is the simplicity of The Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Is to believe.
Even a child can be saved and understand you can't say to a child that " you are not going to Heaven because you didn't do enough works through out your life " smh no this is wrong if that child place their faith in Jesus Christ then they are saved. Let's say that this precious child is sick with cancer and only have a few days to live and they believe in Jesus Christ for their Salvation. Where would they go when they pass away . The answer is Heaven.
For the wages of sin is death . No man can save themselves from hell all of was born separated from GOD and we all fall short of The Glory of GOD.
No man is perfect but GOD.
Let GOD be The Truth and let every man be a liar.
Jesus Christ was a perfect sacrifice for man because Jesus is blameless, perfect and sinless . He know no sin but died a death like a theif on a cross He was tortured for our sins . He is The Only Way Jesus says I am The Way The Truth and The Life No one goes to The Father in Heaven except through Him. Jesus Christ
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Very true and well stated.. All people need to hear the gospel we want all to go to Heaven . God is sovereign and knows all but that doesn't mean we are puppets.. From Gen. On we see that we choose. He choose all of is to die for the whole world That is truth. Everytime an elected person os preached about( example.. Paul we love was probably elected..for his very. Very important mission, that doesn't everyone was. Jacob used also.. well He was extremely important in the Bible.. God used these these people in HuGe ways... So some yes maybe elected but we can't preach that he didn't die for alll. He knows alll but we get to chose by Faith when we hear the word and fall underconviction. To preach or teach anything else is a very dangerous thing to do when our Savior died once on the cross to take away the sins if the entire world... Before and after ... all people... Praise HIM
Excellent video!! Really appreciate the insight for these seven non-essential doctrines.
Thank you so much for your clarification on these topics! Extremely insightful and informative! ❤🙏🏻 God Bless you!
I agree with you on everything except your #1 issue...calvinism...I believe calvinism is a dangerous theology...I personally struggled with the concept (to the point of depression) for a long time and became discouraged, disappointed and felt hopeless with the idea that God would choose some over others for salvation when the bible clearly says that he loves everyone and that Jesus came so that all would come to repentance and none would be lost...I personally believe that the Holy Spirit draws all to salvation but that it's everyone's choice to either believe or not believe. Without that choice all you end up with are God chosen puppets that are simply doing what they've been pre-programmed to do.. (In a robot voice...I LOVE GOD NOT BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO LOVE GOD, BUT THAT I'VE BEEN PROGRAMMED TO LOVE GOD.) Do you really believe that God would want nothing more than pre-programmed puppets to love him in return. Not to mention, how can God hold accountable for their sin people who had no choice in being a sinner and people who had no ability to choose Jesus as their substitute for their sin. Makes no sense. Calvinism makes those that He "chose" prideful and arrogant
God first chooses, you have no part in your own salvation.
I understand where you're coming from and this is something I struggled to figure out as well when I was considering the theology of predestination. I definitely had to acknowledge based on certain passages of Scripture that predestination was a thing, biblically supported, but I wasn't sure what it actually meant. The conclusion I have come to -- and I make no claim that it is absolutely true, but it makes sense to me so I wanted to share -- is that if we believe that God is all-knowing, then that means He already knew before we were even created who would accept Him and who would reject Him. We're not robots who were arbitrarily chosen by God, like He was looking out over creation and saying, "I'll take that one...and that one...but not that one..." To me, it is just that He was already aware of what choices we would make. Still our choice, but He foreknew it. And that makes sense, because He is all-knowing, and knows the future. I don't feel like His knowledge of what choices I am going to make means that I don't have free will to choose, it just means that He knows me better than I know myself. Since He knew I would accept Him, He came after me, orchestrating the events in my life that He knew would lead me to Him. In that way I was predestined for salvation, but this did not interfere with my free will, in my mind. I don't know if that makes sense, if it helps, or even if my viewpoint is accurate, but those are my thoughts! (Feel free to chime in, Allen, I'd love to hear your viewpoint! 😆)
Completely agree. And you can still believe in eternal security. And God’s foreknowledge without Calvin’s predestination and limited atonement. Or God decreeing the evil in the world. Evil is due to sin and God uses it for good He does not decree it. God desires that all would be saved. Calvinism leads to more people walking away from the faith of their youth than any other doctrine in my opinion. And then the Calvinists say they were never saved. Well maybe they just really finally understood the ugly picture of God that you painted.
The only alternative to Calvinism is not works based salvation either. It’s just free will choice. Choice is not a work. Faith is not a work. Picking a team is not a work. It’s just picking a team. God knew you would pick His team, but you still made the decision yourself.
Both are true, and it is explained in Revelation 3:20
“20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
By Christ Jesus knocking you are chosen, but you have the free will to answer that call or not.
@@krystahamor4790 I would have to ask why did God choose only the Hebrews prior to the sacrifice of His Son? Was that fair or right that another people wasn't chosen? Same with God choosing whom He will for salvation. If one is not first chosen by God one will not respond to that calling. That is Calvinism in play in my opinion. I'm not a die hard Calvinist by the way
Thank you Pastor Allen, I was going to a church that I honestly loved and held dear, but the more I read the word of God the more I would see and hear things that made me question. During tithing they would read the scriptures you mentioned all the time. I always felt guilted. And now I go to another church where he says we don’t take offering you give what you want to give that’s between you and God. Thank you for giving these prospectives.
Prophecy still exist. It’s wonderful getting dreams and visions about the world and my life come to pass. And they’re not vague they’re clear as day. But people can’t grasps what I tell them because they’re not living the life with me. The closest people to me see it happing and we’re overjoyed how God reveals it to us.
Keep growing in God.
@@Simz199x I hope he continues to be with me if he is willing too. I wish the world knew the amazing things he did in my life in the easy and difficult times. I want to tell the world leaders I wish they stopped because it’s all real. Having the continued reassurance from him throughout my life gives me hope for the future. Him showing me where I will be, what I will be doing, what people are saying and thinking. In constant reminder each time I sleep. I have the full confidence that before I die I will get to see the things he revealed to me. That time will not pass away until I see what he revealed to me.
It’s amazing seeing the events of the world twice. Before people know what will happen in the world, it has been set to happen. Before I even plan my goal, God reassures me that today it is yours. Who can take away what God has given to me or who can erase the boundaries that he set for me? God is real and to many even to believers this is just a story to them. Before I even worry where I will go or live, God already shows me the map and location. He reassures me of the place and people around me. I hear there conversations twice. I see events twice. Is anything impossible with God? I say all of this out of pure joy for God. I just wanted to share this with you. I have so much to say in detail but the comment section isn’t the place.
I feel great! Thank you for clearing these things up.
In agreement with everything you pointed out. 🙏so so many believers are being confused and we need pastors to speak on these things more
I see miracles and healings nearly every day and everywhere. I see people being prayed for and are delivered at will everyday.
Brother Allen you've started to water down your ground stand on guiding christians back on track, especially with the first point.
I don't think he's watering down his view as much as clarifying people can disagree with him and still be true brethren
Hey brother! Can you clarify a bit more as to what you mean so I can adequately respond? Much appreciated. Thanks!
Hey, Richie, in love, I respectfully disagree. As pointed out by @Matthew, (& I commented elsewhere), I think Brother Allen is just pointing out what one pastor I had said, "The 5% of things that separate us aren't as important as the 95% of things that bind us." We can have strong convictions & support them Biblically but it's ok to say "I love you in Christ but I respectfully think you're wrong!" 😂 OK- my humor is wonky!
@@cmnelson2923 thanks brother for taking time to respond to my text.
My point of departure is on women pastors. It's a subject that he earlier shed much light on but now making it kind of it's okay is wrong.
The church is going astray due to this subject.
@@thebeatagp thanks a lot brother and may God bless you.
This issue of women pastors you shed a light on it earlier. I had to save it for aid in my teachings to the church. Now opening it like it's okay is what's worrying me because this subject of women pastors is really misleading the church.
Thanks again brother & may God bless you.
Through "The Beat" you are my pastor, thank you!
Love the message Allen way to take on some of the touchier issues. God bless us all! Stay strong Saints and Keep the Armor on!!!
6:42 - this is really rich, Allen. Considering your latest video about why you stopped speaking in tongues literally starts with you mimicking and mocking the speaking in tongues.
Maybe this video is things ALLEN PARR should stop arguing about? 😂
As you re-study 1 Corinthians 12 and 14 about spiritual gifts, please don’t forget 1 Corinthians. The greatest of all of these things - faith, hope and love - is love. Not mockery to your brethren who believe differently in the body of Christ. But love.
Much love 🙏
I just found your post pastor, and I truly enjoy you and I will continue to subscribe because as a Christian, I truly believe in everything that you have said
Very helpful breakdown. Thank you!
I'm glad to see you are back!
Hey Allen, when you described your position on predestination and free will, your self description, your a calvinist! Welcome to the club!!
Well done and well summarized on each non-essential topic.
Praise God for your faithfulness to share your well studied perspective.
One point, if you ever present on the topic of Calvinism, you must get to the pre-supposition of Augustinian influence which is based in secular roots.
Call me confused. Did you mean Armenian and not Augustinian? You cannot argue someone to faith. They must start with God is real- a matter of faith.
@@dlsdyer9071thanks for your question.
Augustine would be the presuppositional perspective that is the ground work for Calvinistic theology.
“Augustine is so wholly within me that I could write my entire theology out of his writings.”
A Treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God - Calvins Calvanism P.38
Augustine imposed a framework that derives from neo-platonism, Gnosticism, stoicism, and manicheaism.
Seek that foundation to seek the err.
@@ServantofGOD__ Calvin was not gnostic. His synthesis of scripture into five doctrinal points are the antithesis of Gnosticism. The Arminian beliefs which counter all five points reduce Who God is. My God is Creator, Sustainer, All Powerful, Righteous, Holy and Loving. He provided a way for me and anyone whom He opened their eyes to their broken, sinful condition to be reconciled to Him by the shed blood and merits of Jesus Christ- His only begotten Son. It is nothing that I have done. There is nothing within me that spurred this on, only His transforming power. As the scripture says I am now a new creature/person. He continues to grow me daily to be more like Him. He brings out those fruit of the Spirit- love, joy, peace..
@@dlsdyer9071with grace you seem to be missing the primary point.
Augustine so heavily influenced Calvin.
Arminianism has nothing to do with the framework and foundation. This is simply a red herring that deals with differing perspectives during Calvin’s time.
I highly encourage you to dig deep on ante-nicean fathers prior to Augustine.
Then dig deep on Augustine and you will see where the five points of Calvinism derive from.
Focus on the foundation of the framework.
With grace and love.
@@ServantofGOD__ are you then Arian in your theology?
Agree teach truth to prevent following the wrong doctrines.
Allen I just found you this week. I believe you are a wise man of God. You are led by the Spirit. I agree with everyone of videos I’ve watched so far.
Thank you for speaking your opinion quite clearly. I don't agree with some of what you say. But its so refreshing to hear someone brave enough to speak their opinion