Throgrunn would still be bad if Brann wasn't printed almost in the same set. Who thought that deleting 18 cards as part of a wincon was fun or interactive.
@@ilunfrost1006 The other day I played against a Reno Warrior, and the game was basically decided by them bouncing Throgunn twice to hand and replaying it, not in one turn mind you, but still enough to where I essentially lost my entire deck in one turn, and essentially lost any way to fight them in general.
10:40 I actually totally expected it to work with Drakkari Enchanter, because I used to use Drakkari Enchanter in my Triple Blood Death Knight deck with Mograine and Blood Boil, so I knew that Enchanter worked with auras even when the card that cast them was no longer on the field. (Also a similar card worked with a lot of quests and hero powers in Battlegrounds despite them never saying "at the end of your turn" so I knew that the spaghetti code in Hearthstone would create a beautiful bowtie pasta out of Drakkari and some overpowered effect one day.)
The only card I can personally recall being wrong about was Luna's Pocket Galaxy when it was reverted. The moment it got reverted those few years ago I dusted it immediately because I thought it'd go back to being useless, but it turns out it was still played even after it went back to 7 mana.
Agreed, but i am also surprised when I see a Pipsi paladin. I thought 7mana for pulling from deck would be too expensive, but turn out any pull from deck is still quite powerful. Wonder will the new miniset 9/3/3 construct a similar deck too.
I've been trying to make egg druid work the past 2 days, but to no avail. It was just a fun project, a little throwback to Ungoro meta when i first hit legend with it. But then i saw the section about Treant druid and i was like "wait, that's basically the modern version of egg druid" So i gave it a shot and im just wondering how have i never heard or seen such an interesting deck before. I just want to say Thank you for this discovery
Tho'grun, I don't know why every single time my opponent plays that card, the TNTs are at the top of my deck. For awhile, I was convinced that the text of that card was "put 3 T.N.T. on the top of your opponents deck"
1. Frost Mage is one of my absolute favorite decks so Sleet Skater was absolutely *perfect* support 2. Tho'grun, alongside Reno Lone Ranger, is probably my most hated card in the entire game. Its an 8 Mana delayed Patchwerk that hits ANY card in your hand, field & Deck and not just minions. Oh and it also hits *9 times* WITHOUT Brann. Great design guys!
And most painful to me, steamcleaner is rotated, so you have 1 way to counter it: you need to make a new deck with something like Aviana Zola shudderblock, or 4 espionages
@@aldanimared368Or use Announce Darkness in E.T.C. if you are playing Warlock or Rogue with Maestra! But you would need to get lucky so that E.T.C. doesn't get blown up and you also need to draw him before your opponent plays Boomboss!
I feel like Skyla wasn't a hard call. Like, it's always gonna allow you to drop a Tsunami on turn 4 or 5. And it's so broken because you can just run King Tide too and double your consistency on the turn 5 Tsunami. There really isn't a 250 IQ deckbuilding decision involved to make it good. Conniving Conman also made it clear that you absolutely wanna run Rogue cards.
That's a good pick! Nobody made the connection with Hagatha for a bit but it's a pretty good way to hit your big stuff, and hitting the murloc as a lowroll just isn't bad enough to make it not worth it in standard as it turns out.
You mean to say that World Genius Salty Player Flare can be wrong about cards sometimes? Ludicrous. I remember when the first Mage hero card got leaked and I thought it was so bad it had to be fake, but then lo and behold Frost Lich Jaina was real, and it turned out to be a pretty impactful control card for Mage at the time. I couldn't believe how many games I lost to it. Hope it gets a nice buff someday.
😮😮😮even razz dazzle is at 7 mana, its still almost elise for dk. Just drop ton of stats on board and kill you. I been doing before the buff,😅😅 now its not cool anymore because it's good at 6 mana
Mage doesn't even have the win rate to say everything is bad compared to it. Hearthstone players just have this brain rot where if something is tier one they act like those decks have like a 10 percent WR lead on every one else..
@@FlareIsGone the thing that make me go insane, conman was a good card with 8 mana spell, it allowed rogue to fight with wide stuff or unkilliaxes, and they make it great for anyone who can get this card, except rogue
I had to stop watching your wild exclusive decks video after hearing egg hunter was “completely dead” and garrote rogue is “terrible”. Those were some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard
My bad for not believing in the power of a completely unprecedented change to an already completely unprecedented archetype that only spawned in on accident a few months ago bro, also I know for a fact I said garrote rogue was still one of the best rogue decks post passage nerf but it's still worse
Dang the mic makes a world of difference, dayumm.
I've literally been using it all month man how do people not notice
@@FlareIsGone its not about not noticing it, this video just sounds extra crisp
I was just about to comment this. Sounds really good
Throgrunn would still be bad if Brann wasn't printed almost in the same set. Who thought that deleting 18 cards as part of a wincon was fun or interactive.
Literally nobody. In what world is having 18 cards erased without any counter play is fun or interactive.
@@ilunfrost1006 The other day I played against a Reno Warrior, and the game was basically decided by them bouncing Throgunn twice to hand and replaying it, not in one turn mind you, but still enough to where I essentially lost my entire deck in one turn, and essentially lost any way to fight them in general.
@@ilunfrost1006 having a full hand is a counter play
10:40 I actually totally expected it to work with Drakkari Enchanter, because I used to use Drakkari Enchanter in my Triple Blood Death Knight deck with Mograine and Blood Boil, so I knew that Enchanter worked with auras even when the card that cast them was no longer on the field. (Also a similar card worked with a lot of quests and hero powers in Battlegrounds despite them never saying "at the end of your turn" so I knew that the spaghetti code in Hearthstone would create a beautiful bowtie pasta out of Drakkari and some overpowered effect one day.)
The only card I can personally recall being wrong about was Luna's Pocket Galaxy when it was reverted. The moment it got reverted those few years ago I dusted it immediately because I thought it'd go back to being useless, but it turns out it was still played even after it went back to 7 mana.
You could have put Bolvar in the Paladin section for a redemption arc 😔
Hy Bolvar
I’ve been binging your videos- BTD6 music, hearthstone content, osrs references lol
Agreed, but i am also surprised when I see a Pipsi paladin. I thought 7mana for pulling from deck would be too expensive, but turn out any pull from deck is still quite powerful.
Wonder will the new miniset 9/3/3 construct a similar deck too.
I've been trying to make egg druid work the past 2 days, but to no avail.
It was just a fun project, a little throwback to Ungoro meta when i first hit legend with it.
But then i saw the section about Treant druid and i was like "wait, that's basically the modern version of egg druid"
So i gave it a shot and im just wondering how have i never heard or seen such an interesting deck before.
I just want to say Thank you for this discovery
Tho'grun, I don't know why every single time my opponent plays that card, the TNTs are at the top of my deck. For awhile, I was convinced that the text of that card was "put 3 T.N.T. on the top of your opponents deck"
Strange. When I play it, it usually shuffles them to the bottom.
1. Frost Mage is one of my absolute favorite decks so Sleet Skater was absolutely *perfect* support
2. Tho'grun, alongside Reno Lone Ranger, is probably my most hated card in the entire game.
Its an 8 Mana delayed Patchwerk that hits ANY card in your hand, field & Deck and not just minions. Oh and it also hits *9 times* WITHOUT Brann. Great design guys!
And most painful to me, steamcleaner is rotated, so you have 1 way to counter it: you need to make a new deck with something like Aviana Zola shudderblock, or 4 espionages
Completely agree about 2. I despise these 2 cards with a PASSION.
@@aldanimared368Or use Announce Darkness in E.T.C. if you are playing Warlock or Rogue with Maestra! But you would need to get lucky so that E.T.C. doesn't get blown up and you also need to draw him before your opponent plays Boomboss!
I feel like Skyla wasn't a hard call. Like, it's always gonna allow you to drop a Tsunami on turn 4 or 5. And it's so broken because you can just run King Tide too and double your consistency on the turn 5 Tsunami. There really isn't a 250 IQ deckbuilding decision involved to make it good. Conniving Conman also made it clear that you absolutely wanna run Rogue cards.
What about the 6 mana spell from DH "Summon 2 minions from your deck with rush and at end of turn, put them back in your deck"?
what about it that card is like mid as fuck
@@FlareIsGone That card literally made Big Shaman
That's a good pick! Nobody made the connection with Hagatha for a bit but it's a pretty good way to hit your big stuff, and hitting the murloc as a lowroll just isn't bad enough to make it not worth it in standard as it turns out.
@@FlareIsGone big shaman is making big moves right now and nobody realized how nasty cliff dive would be with walking mountain
mystery egg i thought was only going to be a MarkMcKz card and i was glad to see it was more than that
You mean to say that World Genius Salty Player Flare can be wrong about cards sometimes? Ludicrous.
I remember when the first Mage hero card got leaked and I thought it was so bad it had to be fake, but then lo and behold Frost Lich Jaina was real, and it turned out to be a pretty impactful control card for Mage at the time. I couldn't believe how many games I lost to it. Hope it gets a nice buff someday.
I hit legend for the first time with a nostalgia wave token hagetha deck if you got ahead on board with a jukebox totem up it felt really disgusting
New mic? sounds awesome
Agreed!!
My man the goat
Did you changed your mic? Damn this video sounds nice
I literally have uploaded like 10 videos with the new mic man 😭 obs just had an update fixing my issue that I've been having for months
why is portalmancer skyla in rogue?!?!
Because it's the best rogue card duh
Miaev from AoO was so hyped i crafted it golden day 1. Worst craft of my life
Oh wow the new mic is great
Nice Sleet Skater animation. :D
holy mic improvement
You said death knight thinking demon hunter. Seen many people do that myself included. Don't know why that is but it's how our brains work lol.
dk dh moment
No one's ever right about everything in a game
do a power point in "distungly terribly desing cards ever" please.
Don’t worry guys he apologized we can move on
My greatest L is I thought Showdown was a shitty card
You know what I'm still not changing my stance
😮😮😮even razz dazzle is at 7 mana, its still almost elise for dk. Just drop ton of stats on board and kill you. I been doing before the buff,😅😅 now its not cool anymore because it's good at 6 mana
mana cheat be cheatin, never underestimate it
I thought for a moment i had btd6 open 😅
No neutrals?
I don't do neutrals in these since it's like 10x the card pool and doesn't fit in with most of the themes
Mage doesn't even have the win rate to say everything is bad compared to it. Hearthstone players just have this brain rot where if something is tier one they act like those decks have like a 10 percent WR lead on every one else..
Bruh, New mic, - vibe
Part of me thinks that this entire video was made just to walk back the reaction to 4 mana egg
It was actually about skyla I didn't think it would be the best card in the game
@@FlareIsGoneyeah I got to that part on the video lol. I missed the mini set vid so had no idea you underrated that card.
@@FlareIsGone the thing that make me go insane, conman was a good card with 8 mana spell, it allowed rogue to fight with wide stuff or unkilliaxes, and they make it great for anyone who can get this card, except rogue
Was this vid about standard? I’m surprised you play. Also they should just make wheel of death 4 turns, and still at the start of your turn
I had to stop watching your wild exclusive decks video after hearing egg hunter was “completely dead” and garrote rogue is “terrible”. Those were some of the worst takes I’ve ever heard
My bad for not believing in the power of a completely unprecedented change to an already completely unprecedented archetype that only spawned in on accident a few months ago bro, also I know for a fact I said garrote rogue was still one of the best rogue decks post passage nerf but it's still worse