I think that’s how you’re supposed to on some shorter distance shots because (like he said) you have to aim above the normal aiming spot in shorter distances (like 50 meters)
Right so this is like whatever you were taught by whoever...Our unit always did shoulders.I actually zero'd in lower because I was using the thing like it was call of duty...the FM wants shoulders. But again everyone is different lol
@@Millie.1965 if its zero'd properly it should hit directly where the post is at 25 meters, ive used the scope for 3 years now in the marines and ive never had an issue doming our paper targets at the 25.
@@roadtokali5951 Assuming standard height-over-bore, the POA/POI are the same for 25m and 300m. So at 25m, you should be hitting down where the 300m line is on the reticle.
It’s funny to me how different others are taught on the same optic. The tip of the chevron is 100yds, the crotch of the chevron 200yds, and the tip of the post 300 and so on. Pretty neat hearing different ways others use the RCO
But at the same time 300 and 25 yards are the same aiming point due to trajectory. If you aim below the target you will miss unless you scope is out of zero. Also in the manual for the acog it explains the tip is 100 crotch is 2 and the tip of the stadia is 3
Also the width of the notches for the range marks doubles as makeshift rangefinders, as they are the average size of a soldier's width shoulder to shoulder from said distance. So if a combatant is far away and you dont know the range, you can check each of the notches and if it just covers the combatant, say 600 meters, that's the correct distance.
Well. 99% of all troops are using and always use the same ammo... standards... the range lines are specifically designed For 5.56 standard ammo.. and the horizontal lines are for elevation and estimating ranges... dunno if they make an acog for other ammo. But. If you use a different ammo or different weapon / barrel length. You'd lose most of the functionality of the scope
@@joelrunyan1608 yes, there are a plethora of acogs tuned to certain barrel lengths and ammo types. It's not a catch all. That's why for your generic acog you zero it and then confirm your actual distances on your subtensions to see your true impacts distances. And no, you don't lose functionality using a different weapons system or ammo. You just zero it and confirm impact distances.
@@cloneorder6641 Isn’t it the 1:9 twist or 1:12 that handles the 55gr/M193 & the 62gr/M855 works well in the 1:7? Been awhile since we we’ve been down range. Hell all that was around back then was the M193 55gr, for the 5.56. Things obviously have been improved on if that’s a good way to describe it!
Actually not always true. If your sighted in at 300yrds plus. Your scope will be accurate or pretty darn close at 2 distances. Your scope is a straight line while bullet trajectory is an arc. Depending on caliber loads etc. That straight line will intersect that arc twice. Excluding windage. Take a look at real ballistic charts it explains it. Bottom line on something like a 30-06 with a 165gr boat tail nosler partition If your dead on at 300 yds. You put any decent scope, even without compensation marks. Center mass, something is going down. Your total variable is less than 3 inches depending on rifle. He's got the basic idea, might even be totally correct for video games. But real life quite a bit different.
Na, it's not really like that. The further you go the larger your incline has to be, about up to 100 meters the RCO (acog) is accurate to the arrow, any closer then you *might* have to decline a bit. It only gets bad once the'yre in the 20-10 meter range, which in that case you would have to try pretty hard to miss
Bullets travel in an ark not a straight line up. Any closer then 100m and you start aiming up again. 50m and 200m and 25m and 300m are the same aim point
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You are correct BUT you also forgot about the chevron itself. The top of the chevron is for 100m targets, the top of the cutout is 200m. When zeroing the scope on an M4 @25m, use the top of the POST as your point of aim for the center of the target. The IMPACT of the rounds @25m should be about 1.5 cm BELOW the point of aim. This is to account for the sight over bore difference.
The acog is a great scope Especially if you were somewhere like korengal But they got a little annoying with close engagement distances in villages I was a huge fan of the elcan when that came out finally
Which is exactly where it's supposed to be. Quick pro tip, never use the 25m uncorrected zero on your irons or optics, unless you "want to aim below the target."
@@devildog1989 the Acog tip of chevron is 100m, the interior cut right below the tip is the 200m, tip of the red is the 300. If you zero it any other way the BDC is useless
@@charlesmiller3778 however, there is the Marine way and that coincides with the Chevron. Zero at 36yrds using the 300m/bottom of the Chevron. Confirm at distance obviously but otherwise, the tip will be 100, the tip of the pussy/inside of the Chevron if you will, will coincide with 200, and the bottom of the Chevron will be 300. Everything else will line up where it's supposed to be
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"All the way up in the air!!!!" Dude, have you ever actually fired a rifle with an optic on it? A few millimeters movement can change the bullet trajectory by several feet or not at all depending on the range. It's not a damn grenade launcher.
Definitely don't think any real firearm experience, at least rifles at a distance. Got the basic concept though, which is a start. Forget these are video games. This isn't new tech, been around for over a hundred years. Ramp sights, ladder sights were predecessors. Some scopes used to come fixed elevation and windage reference marks and adjustments. Based off moa at 1/4 inch at a 100 yds. Apparently they've made smart scopes now. All I know is you're better off understanding your gun, ammunition ,conditions and capabilities. Make sure it's sighted in and know your target before you squeeze the trigger. Shooting in video games or targets is not the same as hunting or war. There's no reset.
@@bcallahan3806 not sure why you're responding to me... Not sure if im reading your response clearly either. 1 MOA is ~1 inch at 100 yards, not 1/4". If you're talking about adjusting the turrets to zero a rifle, 1 click = 1/4 MOA is common but not universal. And the reticle on this optic is not an MOA reticle. It's more like a BDC that shows holdover based on a specific cartridge with a specific weight bullet.
@@92vanguard your correct, I mispoke. What was 4 moa clicks was common to equal 1 inch at a 100yds. Not stanard. And yes there's a ton of variables. Was trying to agree with you. In your initial response to the video. Also as I said older scopes really weren't accurrate bullet drop compensators or windage adjustments. They were just fixed reference points based on a certain distance. I've never the opportunity to use the new scopes but can tell you have have shot plenty of deer and other moving targets 200 to 400+yrd range. Did it by looking up ballistics, getting the right gun for where I'm headed. And being concious, quick and accurate. Muzzle loaders,22, shotguns, pellet guns to 30-30 to 300 win Mag. In 6 decades with the exception of cheap pellet guns and rat hunting. I've missed less than I've fingers. All because I was taught early on. By some of the best. Guys could rattle off a pump so fast it sounded like a semi, weapons specialist in Vietnam, guys shoot 5 rounds at 300 meters. One whole less than a dime. Me on paper couldn't come close. But in the field. Took me ten years before the target shooter ever shot a living thing. There's a difference. Tell me how many points on a deer. But didn't shoot. I did it because of food. Don't even own a gun anymore. Not allowed to in the lease. No disrespect for you again. Appreciate the corrections on moa. Adjustable BDC just not affordable. Probably should go again. What I used to hunt, track for over runs my doorstep. We knew it was coming. We no longer hunt shoot them for food. We hit them with volvos, smart cars and EVs. That brings in coyotes, rats that kills off red and grey fox, birds of prey, 0
I have to say the ACOG has been my favourite. In the Australian army we had them mounted on the F-88SA2 Austeyr. We also had a Trijicon RMR on top. Useful for very close distances.
I love the ACOG and ACSS aiming reticle. It is genius how to range a target you move though the drops until you get shoulder width. It makes it simple to use and more robust in a combat situation. Also if you are going by the tip of the chevron, that is supposed to be a 100m zero. At least how I was taught.
The ACOG uses an etched glass and prisms of glass orientated to magnify the reticle and sight picture, as opposed to lens style magnification common among most conventional optics
As well as when he said to aim below center mass at close distances to account for zero. If hes zerod to 50m or 100m like using the hashes would suggest then theres no need to aim low at close distances. Theres no way this guys ever shot a rifle
@@littletimmy9686 I commented the same thing. A 36/300 yard zero is used in most cases (sometimes 25 yard zero) and center mass shots out to 300 yards will only deviate a few inches. I hate when people make tiktoks like this because it makes people believe and spread false information
Correction, your bullet trajectory is pretty much the same for 50M and 300M. That’s why we do a 25M zero range that represents a 300M. The projectile starts low, raises up, then falls back down to 300M. The lateral point of unison is at 25 and 300. 50 isn’t that much further. You still aim center mass.
@@Hawk_Sparrow those are mil lines, not used for wind. With wind you deviate based on inches. Really unless you’re doing the calculations it’s more of a Kentucky wind age thing where wind is blowing from the left so you shoot a little to the right but anything 300m in you won’t have to make a wind call.
Windage literally does not factor in until a target is like 1000m away. Maybe if it’s a windy day windage becomes a factor at 800-900m. Bullets are fast.
The tip of the chevron is zeroed for 100 meters you dont have to aim below your target at 50. You will get good enough hits aiming center mass at 50 meters to kill a man
The acog is, thus far, the finest combat optic we've yet devised. The perfect mix of magnification (super helpful for peaking at things to identify them), ballistic calculation, and simplicity with the tritium. I love it.
Also worth noting that if you hold on that for different calibers, it might not land where you think. BDCs are calibrated for specific rounds. But you can still use it to range.
You can purchase models constructed with different targeting reticles. I selected mine with a traditional looking primary crosshair (reticle) and GREEN LED. When the LED is turned on the center portion of the primary reticle "+" and the 300, 400 holdover reticles are illuminated. On this model the 700yd-1000yd reticles become a "+" sign with gaps "- -" in the center so you are not losing the target behind a line. Trijicon provides MOA measurements for all markings inside the optic, including the width of the lines themselves and the exact MOA between them. It is the clearest glass that I have ever looked through. The lines are laser sharp. ACOG is worth every penny.
Key thing to consider about ACOG’s is that the tip of the chevron is not the aiming point like you see in video games. And the eye relief on them is pretty bad so if you have to get your eye up really close to the scope to see through it well.
Man ACOGs were so great, that shoot atleast in my unit only the officers and NCOS could have them, us lower enlisted just had to make due with crappy red dot sights. Which were better than nothing, ACOGs are no joke really on point.
For those gamer kids, the red line a top the scope is tritium which uses I believe solar to light up the chevron. Reusable power source. Also don’t break it.
I’m Australian during a range session a kangaroo ran through slightly beyond the 300m range, the sarge said stop shooting but all of us were aiming for it but still couldn’t hit it, moving targets are really hard and need to adjust for distance
That is called a bullet drop compensator (BDC), but no, the way the bullet travel path works is the second the bullet comes out of the barrel the forces of gravity work on it, so on an acog with 5.56, the 300m is roughly equivalent to the 25m so to get a rough zero you aim with the tip of the red line or the ‘300’ when shooting @25. Also m4s, M16s, and M27s only have an effective range on a point target of 500m. Anything after that is an area target of around 800m, that is if you can even see that far. Most combat engagements are 300 in. The lines on the outside are Mil lines and used to find distances using known measurements, they are broken into blocks of 5 mils each. End of the day though anything 100m in, use the chevron because POA is going to be roughly POI. Really close in like clearing a building because it’s a 4x optic, just look over the optic.
The RCO’s chevron uses tridium to illuminate, I’ve been using the SCO for about 8 months now and at first I wasn’t impressed. Initially due to its 1 and 1/5 weight increase but it’s actually extremely versatile
Its called a bullet drop compensator. They are made this way for the specific weapon. They are a quick reference for the distance the point of impact will strike.
Idk if you've heard of Squad(it's a game), but it has pretty accurate equipment. The ACOG looks exactly like the ones we're issued. You should source screenshots from there if you need stuff like this!
The botton of the chevron/tip of the BDC stadia is to be zeroed at 25 yards. Ballistically, a 25 yard zero will intercept a 5.56 trajectory (usually assuming M193 loads out of a 14.5, or 20in barrel, which does influence velocity, so it depends on what trijicon contracted model we're talking about) at both 25 yards on the way up, and 300 yards on the way down. The tip of the chevron is to be used inbetween 25 and 300 yards. It roughly represents the top of the trajectory's ballistic arc at roughly 100 yards. So. For anywhere between 25 yards and 300 yards, use the tip of the chevron, and the bullet will impact within a reasonable error. Basically it's just a BDC reticle, and you dont really have to aim the gun "all the way" up or down, the aiming point between 300 yards and 800 yards is almost imperceptible with regards to how much youre actually moving the gun.
Dude, the difference between the Chevron and the 800m mark would be nearly unnoticeable at the shooter. Those marks in the scope only occured within a very microscopic amount but when you extrapolate out further and further to the target the difference between where you aim and where you impact becomes greater. So while you are aiming up, anyone watching the shooter would not be able to tell the difference whether they are shooting up or down.
In the M150 RCO, the upper apex of the chevron (the tip on top) should be zeroed at 100m. Lower apex (the tip of the bottom inside edge of the chevron) will be at 200m. The top point of the illuminated vertical line is 300m. The lowest horizontal edges of the chevron are on the same horizontal plane as that point. The rest is self explanatory. If you do not zero the top apex of the ACOG M150 reticle to 100m, the rest of the reticles will be off. That’s how I was taught. The shoulder thing is true, but teaching that is discouraged because that takes your attention away from your true point of aim. Just use the top point of the the illuminated vertical line for targets at 300m.
TBH. You see that the ACOG-Scope in his first picture has a reflex-sight. So if und have a target close to 50 meters u use the reflex sight. It's basically a "red dot scope".
You explain this with the understanding of a non shooter. Well done. Now, please explain how suppressors slow down bullets and decrease range and energy.
Tip of the chevron is 100m, these sights are zero’d in at 25 yards using the tip of the post (red post under chevron) with the bullet trajectory being the same at 25m and 300m out of carbine m4 and m4a4, and the iars, it ensures proper zero and sets a standard for unknown distance.
Theres more than one reticle for the ACOG. Theres several and many of them look very different and some similar often calibrated for different calibers or even specific rounds but they typically still work generally speaking.
If your target is 50 ms away, and you have a 300m zero. Then yes aiming through the acog you would have to "hold" a lower point of aim. You in general won't do this though bc at 50 meters you should be able to "reflex fire" to hit your target. That's why you need to shoulder your rifle in line with your "natural point of aim".
Natural point of aim and reflex fire, Jesus. Sometimes I wonder if the RCOs that write these instructions actually think that's the best practice or the easiest to teach a large group.
I literally just qualified with my unit and it was my first time using an acog, wish I watched this before hand! I used the point to line up with the center not the shoulders lol.
We were taught 100 tip of chevron, 200 at the crease of the chevron, tip of post for the 300. Tip of post for 50 meters, 4 line at 25m. USMC PMI’s teach this way, well the ones I had. Shot 48/50 3/3 this new ARQ range
I use a Trijicon ACOG on my AR that I built and it’s really a minor adjustment up or down depending on the distance of the target. Not aiming way up for distance or way down for close range. Quite an exaggeration on the presenters part. As far as what it looks like when you peer through the scope, you can find images of that online pretty easily just by searching it on google. I really do love to use the scope though, very clear glass and very much on point as far as accuracy.
Wow! Am I the only one that thought the tip of the chevron was what you use? Not the shoulder part of it but the actual tip of the ^
I think that’s how you’re supposed to on some shorter distance shots because (like he said) you have to aim above the normal aiming spot in shorter distances (like 50 meters)
The tip of the chevron is 100m
Right so this is like whatever you were taught by whoever...Our unit always did shoulders.I actually zero'd in lower because I was using the thing like it was call of duty...the FM wants shoulders. But again everyone is different lol
You aren’t the only one I joined the army thinking that and shooting like that everytime still hit my targets but never where I wanted to hit them
Same, I always aimed the way you just said in COD CW. Now I'm gonna do it the way explained.
“That’s my favorite scope”
Me: “heh. Amateurs” (attaches kaleidoscope to rifle)
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welcome to the fifth dimension sir
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@@cheezdip3533 DMT? I can’t even spell that.
ur not funny
Nah nah, it's magic till i get a proven peer reviewed study.
When a target is close, like 25 meters, you actually use the tip of the post to shoot
Will it be point of aim?
@@Millie.1965 if its zero'd properly it should hit directly where the post is at 25 meters, ive used the scope for 3 years now in the marines and ive never had an issue doming our paper targets at the 25.
I thought it was the tip for 100??
ive been told bullet trajectory is the same for 25 and 300
@@roadtokali5951 Assuming standard height-over-bore, the POA/POI are the same for 25m and 300m. So at 25m, you should be hitting down where the 300m line is on the reticle.
I remember telling the freshmeat to go get me some acog batteries from the Amory. The Armorors face was priceless.
I get that this is a joke, but I actually prefer the battery powered ACOG.
@@burtrandolph1745 same
Some units do use the battery powered acog
“hahahaha i annoy new soldiers because it gives me a power trip and makes me feel cool”
Can’t do that now lol they actually make acogs that take batteries now 😂
It’s funny to me how different others are taught on the same optic. The tip of the chevron is 100yds, the crotch of the chevron 200yds, and the tip of the post 300 and so on. Pretty neat hearing different ways others use the RCO
But at the same time 300 and 25 yards are the same aiming point due to trajectory. If you aim below the target you will miss unless you scope is out of zero. Also in the manual for the acog it explains the tip is 100 crotch is 2 and the tip of the stadia is 3
“All the way up in the air”. Literally a quarter inch raise at most. Relax dude.
And if target is close you don't aim down
Civs smh
@@parkjrjr hes a veteran..
Thank you for the info I know nothing about this but I like learning things thank you so much for explaining it
bro chill…
Finally, someone that calls it a chevron instead of a damn carrot.
Bruh who the fuck calls it a carrot lmao
@@harambe4628 I blame video games.
I agree my son.
Triangle
Still doesn't know what he's talking about.
“If he’s 50 you aim down” that so counterintuitive that you might as well put an M2 browning on a bronco and call it a humvee
Sight over bore, gotta compensate somehow. You dont have to aim too much lower. But if you're shooting targets within 10m that's when the fun starts
@@guardian6912 Just aim center mass at close... mechanical offset isn’t that drastic. Only a couple of inches.
Also the width of the notches for the range marks doubles as makeshift rangefinders, as they are the average size of a soldier's width shoulder to shoulder from said distance. So if a combatant is far away and you dont know the range, you can check each of the notches and if it just covers the combatant, say 600 meters, that's the correct distance.
And can't forget the ammo type of grains. M193. M855. And etc. That's also accountable for your gun as well
Well. 99% of all troops are using and always use the same ammo... standards... the range lines are specifically designed For 5.56 standard ammo.. and the horizontal lines are for elevation and estimating ranges... dunno if they make an acog for other ammo. But. If you use a different ammo or different weapon / barrel length. You'd lose most of the functionality of the scope
@@joelrunyan1608 yes, there are a plethora of acogs tuned to certain barrel lengths and ammo types. It's not a catch all. That's why for your generic acog you zero it and then confirm your actual distances on your subtensions to see your true impacts distances.
And no, you don't lose functionality using a different weapons system or ammo. You just zero it and confirm impact distances.
@Bruce you do realize that 1:7 is the worst twist for 55s lmao
@@joelrunyan1608 acog was designed for used around the green tips, not the newer stuff
@@cloneorder6641 Isn’t it the 1:9 twist or 1:12 that handles the 55gr/M193 & the 62gr/M855 works well in the 1:7? Been awhile since we we’ve been down range. Hell all that was around back then was the M193 55gr, for the 5.56. Things obviously have been improved on if that’s a good way to describe it!
Drill instructors be like: ITS AN RCO
“I shot him center mass sir!”
“He was really close, what did you aim at?”
“You don’t want to know sir!”
Actually not always true.
If your sighted in at 300yrds plus.
Your scope will be accurate or pretty darn close at 2 distances.
Your scope is a straight line while bullet trajectory is an arc. Depending on caliber loads etc. That straight line will intersect that arc twice.
Excluding windage.
Take a look at real ballistic charts it explains it.
Bottom line on something like a 30-06 with a 165gr boat tail nosler partition
If your dead on at 300 yds.
You put any decent scope, even without compensation marks.
Center mass, something is going down. Your total variable is less than 3 inches depending on rifle.
He's got the basic idea, might even be totally correct for video games.
But real life quite a bit different.
Na, it's not really like that. The further you go the larger your incline has to be, about up to 100 meters the RCO (acog) is accurate to the arrow, any closer then you *might* have to decline a bit. It only gets bad once the'yre in the 20-10 meter range, which in that case you would have to try pretty hard to miss
Bullets travel in an ark not a straight line up. Any closer then 100m and you start aiming up again. 50m and 200m and 25m and 300m are the same aim point
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"How does it work?" It doesn't until you beat it with a block of wood so it'll keep 0 😂
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You are correct BUT you also forgot about the chevron itself. The top of the chevron is for 100m targets, the top of the cutout is 200m. When zeroing the scope on an M4 @25m, use the top of the POST as your point of aim for the center of the target. The IMPACT of the rounds @25m should be about 1.5 cm BELOW the point of aim. This is to account for the sight over bore difference.
The acog is a great scope Especially if you were somewhere like korengal But they got a little annoying with close engagement distances in villages I was a huge fan of the elcan when that came out finally
When they are close range you just line up the chevron you don’t have to aim down to hit the centre mass of a 50m shot.
Right he said aim down like you’ll be aiming at the floor or something.
I got myself an ACOG, but have it zeroed so the tip of the chevron is at 100 metres
Which is exactly where it's supposed to be. Quick pro tip, never use the 25m uncorrected zero on your irons or optics, unless you "want to aim below the target."
@@devildog1989 the Acog tip of chevron is 100m, the interior cut right below the tip is the 200m, tip of the red is the 300. If you zero it any other way the BDC is useless
@@charlesmiller3778 and yet the army does so...
@@charlesmiller3778 however, there is the Marine way and that coincides with the Chevron. Zero at 36yrds using the 300m/bottom of the Chevron. Confirm at distance obviously but otherwise, the tip will be 100, the tip of the pussy/inside of the Chevron if you will, will coincide with 200, and the bottom of the Chevron will be 300. Everything else will line up where it's supposed to be
@@devildog1989 25 meters should be the same as 300 no?
Loves how he explained what's inside of an acog
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A Cog. Red Dot. Iron Sight. Hell yeah brother!
Thanks for the answering "how do I use the ACOG." Now do the promised What's inside and How does it work.
He didn't even answer that correctly though.
"All the way up in the air!!!!"
Dude, have you ever actually fired a rifle with an optic on it? A few millimeters movement can change the bullet trajectory by several feet or not at all depending on the range. It's not a damn grenade launcher.
Definitely don't think any real firearm experience, at least rifles at a distance.
Got the basic concept though, which is a start.
Forget these are video games.
This isn't new tech, been around for over a hundred years. Ramp sights, ladder sights were predecessors.
Some scopes used to come fixed elevation and windage reference marks and adjustments. Based off moa at 1/4 inch at a 100 yds.
Apparently they've made smart scopes now.
All I know is you're better off understanding your gun, ammunition ,conditions and capabilities. Make sure it's sighted in and know your target before you squeeze the trigger.
Shooting in video games or targets is not the same as hunting or war.
There's no reset.
@@bcallahan3806 not sure why you're responding to me...
Not sure if im reading your response clearly either. 1 MOA is ~1 inch at 100 yards, not 1/4". If you're talking about adjusting the turrets to zero a rifle, 1 click = 1/4 MOA is common but not universal. And the reticle on this optic is not an MOA reticle. It's more like a BDC that shows holdover based on a specific cartridge with a specific weight bullet.
@@92vanguard your correct, I mispoke. What was 4 moa clicks was common to equal 1 inch at a 100yds.
Not stanard.
And yes there's a ton of variables.
Was trying to agree with you. In your initial response to the video.
Also as I said older scopes really weren't accurrate bullet drop compensators or windage adjustments. They were just fixed reference points based on a certain distance.
I've never the opportunity to use the new scopes but can tell you have have shot plenty of deer and other moving targets 200 to 400+yrd range.
Did it by looking up ballistics, getting the right gun for where I'm headed.
And being concious, quick and accurate.
Muzzle loaders,22, shotguns, pellet guns to 30-30 to 300 win Mag.
In 6 decades with the exception of cheap pellet guns and rat hunting.
I've missed less than I've fingers.
All because I was taught early on.
By some of the best.
Guys could rattle off a pump so fast it sounded like a semi, weapons specialist in Vietnam, guys shoot 5 rounds at 300 meters. One whole less than a dime.
Me on paper couldn't come close.
But in the field.
Took me ten years before the target shooter ever shot a living thing.
There's a difference.
Tell me how many points on a deer.
But didn't shoot.
I did it because of food.
Don't even own a gun anymore.
Not allowed to in the lease.
No disrespect for you again.
Appreciate the corrections on moa.
Adjustable BDC just not affordable.
Probably should go again.
What I used to hunt, track for over runs my doorstep.
We knew it was coming.
We no longer hunt shoot them for food.
We hit them with volvos, smart cars and EVs.
That brings in coyotes, rats that kills off red and grey fox, birds of prey,
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@@rubenperez2797 I mean, it's exaggerated, but not wrong, you use the point of the chevron center mass for a 50m target
I have to say the ACOG has been my favourite. In the Australian army we had them mounted on the F-88SA2 Austeyr. We also had a Trijicon RMR on top. Useful for very close distances.
I love the ACOG and ACSS aiming reticle. It is genius how to range a target you move though the drops until you get shoulder width. It makes it simple to use and more robust in a combat situation. Also if you are going by the tip of the chevron, that is supposed to be a 100m zero. At least how I was taught.
"it's my favorite scope" *has clearly never used an ACOG before*
Thank you.
@@bleachedmud8723 your welcome
That's how every sight works.
The ACOG uses an etched glass and prisms of glass orientated to magnify the reticle and sight picture, as opposed to lens style magnification common among most conventional optics
“All the way up in the air”. You can do some simple trigonometry and determine that the difference in height at the end of the barre isn’t very much.
“Alll the way up in the air.” Screams you have zero experience behind a rifle. Probably why you disabled comments on this exact video on TikTok.
As well as when he said to aim below center mass at close distances to account for zero. If hes zerod to 50m or 100m like using the hashes would suggest then theres no need to aim low at close distances. Theres no way this guys ever shot a rifle
@@littletimmy9686 I commented the same thing. A 36/300 yard zero is used in most cases (sometimes 25 yard zero) and center mass shots out to 300 yards will only deviate a few inches. I hate when people make tiktoks like this because it makes people believe and spread false information
Nobody has ever successfully explained to me how to use the ACOG. Well done, sir. Thanks.
Correction, your bullet trajectory is pretty much the same for 50M and 300M. That’s why we do a 25M zero range that represents a 300M. The projectile starts low, raises up, then falls back down to 300M. The lateral point of unison is at 25 and 300. 50 isn’t that much further. You still aim center mass.
Can you do a video on Shepard tank? I can't find many explanation videos on it
Do you mean Sherman?
@@comradesunny3557 Oh yea lol
Yes I have some un popular opinions on it so why not get everyone mad at me haha
@@TSPLY I get it that's fine if you don't want to make a video if that's what your saying
What about windage and bullet deviation
You adjust based off of the need, there are side bars to allow you to adjust for windy conditions as well
yea this was a very simplified video but we can do detailed videos how we would adjust and tactics using scopes
Kentucky windage🤯
@@Hawk_Sparrow those are mil lines, not used for wind. With wind you deviate based on inches. Really unless you’re doing the calculations it’s more of a Kentucky wind age thing where wind is blowing from the left so you shoot a little to the right but anything 300m in you won’t have to make a wind call.
Windage literally does not factor in until a target is like 1000m away. Maybe if it’s a windy day windage becomes a factor at 800-900m. Bullets are fast.
Ever since I was still 8-9 y.o., I already knew the purpose of the lines because I play a lot of shooting video games.
So that’s why the characters always look like there facing the sky in the video game
This is how we play war thunder too every tank has a gun velocity and different speed so It's very accurate
Again reality vs virtual.
Consequences.
Not pretty,
First video i seen of this guy and after hearing aim down at close range......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 clueless
The tip of the chevron is zeroed for 100 meters you dont have to aim below your target at 50. You will get good enough hits aiming center mass at 50 meters to kill a man
Wow you took under a minute and I completely understand now vs a whole week and still didn't🤦🏽♀️ Thank you!❤
If you raise your acog that high in the air you've never used an Acog
By “literally lifting your scope all the way into the air” he really means about 2-4° depending on cartridge and barrel length.
By the looks of it the one in 'Squad' nailed it.
The acog is, thus far, the finest combat optic we've yet devised. The perfect mix of magnification (super helpful for peaking at things to identify them), ballistic calculation, and simplicity with the tritium. I love it.
I have one on my AR, the clarity of the reticle can’t be done justice on a computer screen. It’s an amazing piece of technology
Im glad you explained that. was having trouble getting use to the acog. that eye relief tho
Tip for new guys- bullet path from M4 isn’t flat, at 300 meters point of aim is point of impact. The bullet path is an arc, not flat.
Scope? God you’re a pog.
It’s called a sight
Or an acog
"Whole way UP in the air "
Ooh 2 inches
More like a quarter inch
Imagine actually using the 800 meter one though, that'd just be insane without a high calibre rifle
In no wind or with a good wind call, totally achievable.
In the air you'd lose sight of the target! 🤣🤣🤣
That dude is a tactical air controller in the Air Force bad dude right there
Adjusting to the marks for elevation is how all scopes work.
I used one at a shooting range once. I was a little surprised at how correct some video games are with showing how it looks.
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Good stuff, but still Chinesium.
This is just how scopes work in general
Also worth noting that if you hold on that for different calibers, it might not land where you think. BDCs are calibrated for specific rounds. But you can still use it to range.
That’s why some soldiers use RMR sights as well
The lack of drop on 5.56 out to 400m is quite impressive.
acog sheet is a *masterpiece*
You can purchase models constructed with different targeting reticles. I selected mine with a traditional looking primary crosshair (reticle) and GREEN LED. When the LED is turned on the center portion of the primary reticle "+" and the 300, 400 holdover reticles are illuminated. On this model the 700yd-1000yd reticles become a "+" sign with gaps "- -" in the center so you are not losing the target behind a line.
Trijicon provides MOA measurements for all markings inside the optic, including the width of the lines themselves and the exact MOA between them. It is the clearest glass that I have ever looked through. The lines are laser sharp.
ACOG is worth every penny.
I really like your vids. Keep up
You are the best ty
Aim at the chest to hit the head but its better to always aim for the belly button of the person when they are closer.
Key thing to consider about ACOG’s is that the tip of the chevron is not the aiming point like you see in video games. And the eye relief on them is pretty bad so if you have to get your eye up really close to the scope to see through it well.
Man ACOGs were so great, that shoot atleast in my unit only the officers and NCOS could have them, us lower enlisted just had to make due with crappy red dot sights. Which were better than nothing, ACOGs are no joke really on point.
For those gamer kids, the red line a top the scope is tritium which uses I believe solar to light up the chevron. Reusable power source. Also don’t break it.
“Literally.”
I’m Australian during a range session a kangaroo ran through slightly beyond the 300m range, the sarge said stop shooting but all of us were aiming for it but still couldn’t hit it, moving targets are really hard and need to adjust for distance
That is called a bullet drop compensator (BDC), but no, the way the bullet travel path works is the second the bullet comes out of the barrel the forces of gravity work on it, so on an acog with 5.56, the 300m is roughly equivalent to the 25m so to get a rough zero you aim with the tip of the red line or the ‘300’ when shooting @25. Also m4s, M16s, and M27s only have an effective range on a point target of 500m. Anything after that is an area target of around 800m, that is if you can even see that far. Most combat engagements are 300 in. The lines on the outside are Mil lines and used to find distances using known measurements, they are broken into blocks of 5 mils each.
End of the day though anything 100m in, use the chevron because POA is going to be roughly POI. Really close in like clearing a building because it’s a 4x optic, just look over the optic.
This was helpful to understanding!!!!
The RCO’s chevron uses tridium to illuminate, I’ve been using the SCO for about 8 months now and at first I wasn’t impressed. Initially due to its 1 and 1/5 weight increase but it’s actually extremely versatile
This dude is clearly a POG.
Tell me you’ve never shot a gun without telling me you’ve never shot a gun.
I served 1988-2006 and never could use these. I always used iron sights. They never did fail me.
Its called a bullet drop compensator.
They are made this way for the specific weapon.
They are a quick reference for the distance the point of impact will strike.
That is literally how every optic works but go off bud
Idk if you've heard of Squad(it's a game), but it has pretty accurate equipment. The ACOG looks exactly like the ones we're issued. You should source screenshots from there if you need stuff like this!
Wait til you see the new scope coming to the troops
The botton of the chevron/tip of the BDC stadia is to be zeroed at 25 yards. Ballistically, a 25 yard zero will intercept a 5.56 trajectory (usually assuming M193 loads out of a 14.5, or 20in barrel, which does influence velocity, so it depends on what trijicon contracted model we're talking about) at both 25 yards on the way up, and 300 yards on the way down.
The tip of the chevron is to be used inbetween 25 and 300 yards. It roughly represents the top of the trajectory's ballistic arc at roughly 100 yards. So. For anywhere between 25 yards and 300 yards, use the tip of the chevron, and the bullet will impact within a reasonable error.
Basically it's just a BDC reticle, and you dont really have to aim the gun "all the way" up or down, the aiming point between 300 yards and 800 yards is almost imperceptible with regards to how much youre actually moving the gun.
Dude, the difference between the Chevron and the 800m mark would be nearly unnoticeable at the shooter. Those marks in the scope only occured within a very microscopic amount but when you extrapolate out further and further to the target the difference between where you aim and where you impact becomes greater. So while you are aiming up, anyone watching the shooter would not be able to tell the difference whether they are shooting up or down.
People who’ve never used an acog are missing out on one of the best pieces of equipment you can have on an AR, they are superior in every way
Good to know, but when I shot with iron sights, I didn't use them for a 50m shot, so I'm not sure I'd use the ACOG for it.
In the M150 RCO, the upper apex of the chevron (the tip on top) should be zeroed at 100m. Lower apex (the tip of the bottom inside edge of the chevron) will be at 200m.
The top point of the illuminated vertical line is 300m. The lowest horizontal edges of the chevron are on the same horizontal plane as that point.
The rest is self explanatory.
If you do not zero the top apex of the ACOG M150 reticle to 100m, the rest of the reticles will be off. That’s how I was taught. The shoulder thing is true, but teaching that is discouraged because that takes your attention away from your true point of aim. Just use the top point of the the illuminated vertical line for targets at 300m.
Being an 0311 this is actually fun when running ranges and it’s rewarding as hell if you hit it at 800m
I use to hate these until I went to a new unit. Turns out my old units armorers just tossed them around and none of them heald zero.
when aiming below a target 🎯 make sure the musket ball doesn't roll out the end because that could be embarrassing 👀🤷🏻♀️
TBH. You see that the ACOG-Scope in his first picture has a reflex-sight. So if und have a target close to 50 meters u use the reflex sight. It's basically a "red dot scope".
You explain this with the understanding of a non shooter. Well done.
Now, please explain how suppressors slow down bullets and decrease range and energy.
Thats why some acog scooes have a rail mount on top where you can add a cq sight
I’m pretty sure every acog has a spot for an optic mount except the 2x.
That's pretty much how all scopes work my guy
Tip of the chevron is 100m, these sights are zero’d in at 25 yards using the tip of the post (red post under chevron) with the bullet trajectory being the same at 25m and 300m out of carbine m4 and m4a4, and the iars, it ensures proper zero and sets a standard for unknown distance.
I personally like the coyote sight or the OKP-7 sight
Theres more than one reticle for the ACOG. Theres several and many of them look very different and some similar often calibrated for different calibers or even specific rounds but they typically still work generally speaking.
If your target is 50 ms away, and you have a 300m zero. Then yes aiming through the acog you would have to "hold" a lower point of aim. You in general won't do this though bc at 50 meters you should be able to "reflex fire" to hit your target. That's why you need to shoulder your rifle in line with your "natural point of aim".
Natural point of aim and reflex fire, Jesus. Sometimes I wonder if the RCOs that write these instructions actually think that's the best practice or the easiest to teach a large group.
Dam I feel old we used M16A2 iron sights
I literally just qualified with my unit and it was my first time using an acog, wish I watched this before hand! I used the point to line up with the center not the shoulders lol.
They didn’t show u how to use the F+** thing before u qualified
@@75thteaster54 nope lol. The guy helping me zero didn’t even know how to zero so I had to go through twice!
"This shit hit around center mass"
I'm kinda surprised you couldn't find an accurate pic. Only because you can hit the site of a manufacturer and they will have it
We were taught 100 tip of chevron, 200 at the crease of the chevron, tip of post for the 300. Tip of post for 50 meters, 4 line at 25m. USMC PMI’s teach this way, well the ones I had. Shot 48/50 3/3 this new ARQ range
I use a Trijicon ACOG on my AR that I built and it’s really a minor adjustment up or down depending on the distance of the target. Not aiming way up for distance or way down for close range. Quite an exaggeration on the presenters part. As far as what it looks like when you peer through the scope, you can find images of that online pretty easily just by searching it on google. I really do love to use the scope though, very clear glass and very much on point as far as accuracy.