If he was not innocent, the narrator would have said “hes nervous. Hes tapping his feet and hes slouched over which is not a confident posture. Hes also stuttering which is a sign of deception.” Dont believe this body language bs.
@@Weightingtablesafter also @ 6:54 when they ask if he knew anything or participated in the murder he nodded yes while verbally saying no. That's something they would have pointed to show he's guilty.
@@zulemadelapaz2381so true! I watch these and they talk about how alarming some body language is and I’m just like I really hope I’m never interrogated for anything because I do everything they say is bad. I tap my foot, I ring my hands, I also nod yes while saying no, I stutter, I say to be honest a lot. Like those are all things these Channels flag as guilty behavior.
Yeah... not worth it. Go work. Pain and suffering for everyone, to include herself. $34k?! without a real way out on the back end? Master's Degree?! Must've been from one of those universities of Phoenix, some online bs.
If he was found guilty - "his posture remains unchanged, carefully controlled - even though an innocent person might become defensive or angry at being wrongfully accused."
Magistrate once held up a traffic ticket I was pissed about, because the cop flat out lied under oath. Said I wouldn't be so angry if I wasn't guilty. No honey, you get madder when you're not guilty, seriously.
I love how it wasn't that he thought she was too good a person to murder someone, he just thought she would be less sloppy about hiding a murder. That's pretty telling about her.
It was interesting to see his thought processes when the officer asked him his opinion based on his work experience. It reminds me a bit of when I had to get gum surgery -- my other friend said, why didn't you get a second opinion? I, also being a dentist said, oh, no need. I pretty much was the second opinion.
It should be said, never, ever, ever let the police interrogate you without a lawyer. Even if you’re 100% not guilty. Plenty of innocent people have talked themselves into a jail cell because they ran afoul of some obscure legal tripwire.
@antoniorobles8706 Do not answer any questions period ever because police will try to lock you into a story even if your not guilty just to make you arrest
@@NewnodrogbobI think it’s a joke, since so many youtubers are “experts” in body language when really body language could be a certain amount of indicators. So many that it’s extremely unreliable, but yet people keep pointing at it as an admission of guilt.
@@armtehcannon4813 that tracks…I was being dumb because I arrived here from other crime/police videos where all of the comments are ravening unreasoning hatred of police.
@@armtehcannon4813 I thought he was acting and being a private detective he could’ve set her up. I like to hear her side.., before believing him… or these cops.
@@mgntstr It's never apparent that that is what "bothers" him. Hes simply saying for their experience, how could she be so stupid if she actually did commit the crime
I actually appreciate the fact that her husband was so baffled and offended by how sloppy and especially stupid her actions were, embarrassingly so, that he didn’t even address the fact that he didn’t even doubt her ability to do what she’s accused of or question her obvious guilt in his estimation.
This is exactly what they mean when they say, "You're too close to this." It happens to law enforcement officers, lawyers, investigators, and even forensic analysts all the time.
No disrespect to the dead, but are we gonna gloss over the fact, that the victim intentionally hid money from her ex husband because of the divorce settlement? She wasn’t exactly innocent.
@@nl212epprisons are filled with people who thought they had nothing to worry about due to their innocence. There have been entire books written and talks held by countless law professionals. Cops are allowed to lie to you and, especially in the United States, have a history of misconstrued facts and the use of pseudoscientific forensics. Polygraphs are a big one, just to name one. There also are countless cases of state attorneys, judges and prosecutors actively trying to sabotage appeals, including but not limited to the admission of new, DNA-based forensic evidence. the biggest reason for this is that, after passing the bar, you pass on much better offers in private practice, with the expectation of it only being a temporary stop on the road to eventual, bigger riches after returning to private practice. The resulting scheming and manipulation in the name of polishing up one’s CV has lead to truly horrifying consequences. Better be safe than sorry. I’ll gladly pay up for a lawyer.
Then watch it in segments. I love 90 min interrogation films. Sometimes I watch them while exercising or just playing in the background while im doing work.
I my experience money doesn't mix well with family or friends. You should always be as secretive as possible with your money. A little off the video subject is how people come out of the woodwork when someone with money passes away. It's amazing how people's personalities change at the prospect of getting money for nothing.
My son was murdered for his $42,000 bank account 12-11-16 the day before my granddaughter's 3rd birthday. 31 days later, my granddaughter's mother, uncle, and new boyfriend/co-worker, were arrested and charged with his death.
I feel so bad for him. Divorce sucks, but having a murderer wife is worse. How do you even recover from that? Finding out the person you trust most is actually a murderer is insane.
Man. Zach was an absolute man of honor. That stupid lady didn't deserve him at all. And to do such a gruesome murder - that takes some guts. I feel sorry for the loss of life as for everyone whose life was affected, apart from the murderer.
The fact she ran away with 38 thousand dollars and he was still saying "I can't see her doing something like that" as an ex-officer is incredibly telling of how powerful of a narcissist she is. I mean, damn. She ruined your whole life.
It's hard to believe someone you are close to let alone someone you love is capable of doing something that horrible. I found out my ex put a baby down in boiling hot water and caused scars all over his back and legs. They tried to say it was an accident but you don't accidentally boil a baby. It happened before we met and I didn't find out until after we'd broken up. I couldn't believe it and I wasn't even in love anymore. You just think you know someone
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Body language can't always be used to determine guilt or innocence. I had years of childhood trauma and when I feel attacked, even verbally, I go right into a very defensive mode to protect myself.
I noticed that about my husband when I had an argument with him where I just busted out yelling and he completely froze. He had severely pissed me off, but his reaction pissed me off even more about myself. I made it a point to vent my anger somewhere else rather than to bust it out on him. He wouldn't have heard anything I said anyways due to dissonance. I've had my own childhood trauma, but instead of freezing up anymore I snap out of it really quickly and then I go on attack and defense mode. I used to swallow up all my trauma and feelings... It is better to remove myself when I feel my anger coming on and he understands when I excuse myself and then find elsewhere to vent and then I can come back and we can talk about things because my communication style just scares the shit out of him. Doesn't happen much because I do have levels of self control.
yeah I'd be screwed if police brought me in and started throwing questions at me rapidly that seemed accusatory. I get extremely nervous even if I haven't done anything I start thinking what if they start digging and find something I did years ago that's embarrassing like my porn views (legal but no one wants their weird Stuff they watched once way back) my body language would show nervousness and I guess guilt I'm going to do more research now to see the exact cues which broadcast guilty
That's still a body language baseline. And body language will give you away every time. Being defensive in and of itself isn't a sign of deception anyway. It's actually more common in this situation. Imagine if someone accused anyone of a murder they didn't commit. First would be shock. Then anger. Then depending on the reaction (and level of intensity) of all parties involved, it goes from there. .but body language will give a person away immediately. If you're NOT defensive when being accused of something serious and ridiculous, then you're more likely guilty - as compared to the vice versa.
As someone who suffers from anxiety, body language isn’t always the best way to determine the truth. I would genuinely be nervous even knowing i did not do anything.
@@densincomprehend8879everybody has anxiety *to healthy degrees*. However, some people have anxiety DISORDERS, which causes the anxiety response to take over even when there's no perceived danger. So, yes, everybody has anxiety, but not everybody has ANXIETY, as in, a troubling disorder that's rather serious.
@@densincomprehend8879 no. It's legitimate psychiatric disorder. Educate yourself. We're talking about permanent states of anguish, not about one particular moment or situation. Living with severe anxiety disorders legally counts as a disability.
@@whokilledthesunv4768 no because im sick of people using everything like this as an excuse you cannot tell which case is real and which case is not real because so many people use it as an excuse. OMGGGG I CAN'T BE SOCIAL I GOT ANXIETY OMG I CAN'T WORK I GOT ANXIETY OMGGGGGG 😭😭😭😭
He probably knows more than the detectives interviewing him. He knew what he was doing. Also, in the video it is mentioned that he did talk to his attorney.
The idea of being able to tell who is innocent and who is not based upon body language has been proven wrong so many times. The interrogators did a good job from my limited experience. But let’s be clear, the evidence freed this man not his body language.
You are absolutely right. There have been many people whose body language was all over the place and yet they were innocent. Those people were simply nervous about the situation they were dealing with.
the sad fact is, you are right. If someone lacks confidence, or is under the weather while they are being questioned, they inadvertently sabotage their defense,.@@stingcoldplay1
Yep, using the silly "body language expertise" employed in this video, the female detective is actually the murderer since she repeatedly crossed her arms and displayed closed off body language : D
I have Tourette’s and under stress sometimes my tics come out. If I was being interrogated by the police for a murder I would be panicking and probably acting weird. Body language expert is a ridiculous thing. That’s like being an expert in phrenology
Both women were horrible drug using party animals who where lesbian lovers. The 35000 dollars was the dead women's husband money that she stole from the husband before she divorced him. Then tried to get more though almoney and childsupport. She won custody only to give the kids back a few weeks later so she could party with her murderer gf. Look into the case both where horrible people
@yourewelcome192 It does this thing is from about 5 years ago or so. It's pretty crazy moral of the story dont commit crimes and let women in on it they shoot you in the back!
Not trying to be contrarian, but people get killed for waaaaay less then 30k, which is at least somewhat substantial. But I agree, it's sad and pathetic.
@@C0ncep1t Bro. Overconsuming Americans who make 30k a year drive cars that cost more than 30k. Yes, it's all done through easy credit, but still. I make way more than that, several times that, but I have rarely spent more than half of that on a car. 30k ain't shit in the grand scheme of things. Tons of folks have retirement accounts that swing more than 30k down or up in a week sometimes. Anyone that thinks 30k is worth a life is insane.
speechless. i’ve seen countless videos about this case on youtube- including major broadcasters- like dateline and 48 hours. this is the first i think any of us have seen this video/his side of things. well done, you deserve all the followers for both just copying and pasting the same bullet points
To the people thinking, when he said "I can't see her doing something like that", that he is influenced by her narcissistic personality NO that's not what he meant, he describes her as being highly intelligent and having a master degree ,while the murder was a sloppy job. He thought she was too smart to be so dumb.
Certainly, her own phone gave her up as to her being at the murder scene and then keeping the victims phone with her as she goes to the wedding. Bit dumb for someone with a degree/masters in Criminology. The trick is to turn off your phone's geo-location and then turn off the victims phone location and turn it off. A similar case happened in Melbourne, Australia a few years ago. A young woman disappeared on her way home from work (and she happened to work with one of the news channels so they had a big interest in the story). Turns out this guy with a history of sexual assault, attacked her, dragged her into a lane way and started to assault her, then bundled her into his car, raped her then strangled her to death and then drove to a remote location on the outskirts of Melbourne. Phone records showed the two phones (his and hers) travelling together, video footage from the Toll Road was linked with the timeline of travel, and the time spent out in the remote suburb. Video surveillance, phone location record matching and a check of known criminals in the area pointed to the eventual murderer. Now that bastard will rot in jail. Unfortunately, nothing can bring back that young woman or mend her fiance's broken heart, all because some dude couldn't control his trouser brain!
@@markfryer9880 You cant turn off your phones geo location. Sure, you can turn off its GPS connection, but its still hooked into the telephone tower system, and regularly pings it for Data, cell service, the time of day, etc. If they get a warrant on your cell records, they can look through it, and do the math based on which towers you pinged, to calculate your location give or take 100 feet.
I’ve listened to several podcasts & Dateline about this case. None of them said much about the killer's husband. I didn't know anything beyond he was a cop and that Ashley was cheating on him. Thanks for focusing on this man's experience on this sad story. I really like another UA-cam channel, Dreading, because he often focuses on the collateral damage around a crime. I'm glad to see you also do that!
Dreading is fantastic, and the reason every video they release is great is because of the massive amount of empathy they show and what you said; that they focus on the collateral damage around the crime/criminal.
Thank you for pointing out all the things that guilty people versus innocent people tend to do in interrogations I'm taking detailed notes and practicing
The poor man was taken in by the person he loved so much. She deserved life without parole, she stole her friends money, and premeditated her murder. Evil has no bounds!
I didn't hear the whole case, but it didn't sound like it was premeditated if she had already spent all the money but didn't kill her until the day she asked for it back.
@@ellakajfasz2569 so they just so happened to meet up on a farm that her relatives own. She filled in the grave with concrete she purchased from a hardware store! What about her using the husband’s phone and not her own. Sounds premeditated to me. 😁
@@MehrubaAfrozI reckon murderers are worst, personally I don’t believe in an afterlife and the thought of losing your one singular chance to walk this earth to some monster is terrifying, at the very least with being raped there is a chance of recovery, no matter how small
it’s copaganda. Cop interrogation techniques like the Reid technique are proven time and time again to be bunk. Their intent is to prove everyone who walks in as guilty
Not talking to the cops without a lawyer aside, I don't see many people acknowledging just how horrible a realization that must have been for the guy. Within seconds his whole world was utterly obliterated. I hope he's been able to process all that and move forward... (EDIT: Alright, I get it, the lawyer's in the room, 30 other people have already told me, you don't need to waste your time lmao)
@davemarnell8871 according to that bank statement they showed, it looks like she paid off thousands of dollars in credit cards the day after she got the money. And the account was negative the day before. She may not have purchased anything, just paid off debt. That would go unnoticed if he never paid attention to the finances in the first place. It's not like she made any big purchases
Im not a PI and long ago i thought the only thing i could think of was call the bank to see what transactions i INITIATED ...NOT processed on said date... I wonder if a satellite can regurgitate what we watched on TV on said date.. Also your computer search engine could help too... my cats help ..well shes napping ALL the time -she didnt see nothing
@user-gf3kw4sl9q Money isn't the root of all evil. There was absolute evil in tribal humanity before money. That kind of evil still exists regardless of the existence of money.
Except when it’s long and drawn out, you get a little more context. I prefer a long interrogation video, I’ve learned a lot more from those rather than these short videos that skim over a lot of important info. In my opinion, this is one of the weaker true crime channels
By the moment he heard “feelings aside” he just accepted that his heart had to break for justice. Despite the pain he barely doubts on what to do, didn’t escape, and gave whatever he could. For a sincerely loving husband it’s so freaking brave!
Over a 34k shopping spree? If that is how little someone values a friendship, let alone a friends freaking life, that person is a psychopath. She will still be a danger to society in 25 years. Keep her locked up for life.
@@TheCabledawg1 I think that with road rage, and many other murderous crimes, the victim can become a kind of a symbol in the mind of the killer of all the people that have annoyed and disrespected him over the years -- people he was unable to punish as he'd have liked to. In this way, even a very small incident can trigger a kind of avalanche. It's like they say, "I've had enough of these *&# holes!" This is just one reason why it's unwise to push people. You don't know what they've been bottling up or how they'll see you.
Everyone saying he shouldn't be talking to the cops without a lawyer present isn't paying attention. Check the bottom left corner, the guy taking notes is his lawyer. And if you're still not sure, 10:38 . Pay attention.
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On the contrary. Something I learned early in life is absolutely EVERYBODY is capable of horrible things. Everybody. No exceptions. And you'd be surprised who's WILLING.
@@jgs_gamestudio9096 being willing and being capable are two entirely different things. No person has ever existed, exists, or will ever exist that isn’t capable of atrocious shit. I’m tired of the saying that humans are a good species that sometimes do bad things. No, humans are a terrible species fueled by greed, hate, envy, etc that are capable of doing some good every once in a while. Just because you aren’t willing to do bad, doesn’t mean that human nature doesn’t lend itself to being capable of doing bad.
@kevinexline5392 no offense but that sounds dumb af. That's like saying anyone is capable of picking up a knife and stabbing the closet person, like no shit. But some people, would never - ever kill another human being, because they decided internally that they would never do so - under any circumstance.
Imagine spending all that time in prison over 34K…. Life you could have just picked some overtime for 12-18 months but instead you lose 25 years.. What was she thinking
She was hiding money from her husband prior to divorcing him. Hardly a lady or "beautiful child". Seems like she was a lying, conniving woman to me. Part of me wants to say she got what she deserved. I have to stop myself from thinking that way. Quite frankly I think both husbands here are better off to be rid of these witches.
sigh if only we would quit putting these things in boxes and just put them in the dirt so we did not have to pay for them and they would not to make big jails for them out of tax payers money the world we be a safer place cause a dead criminal can't hurt anyone anymore.
@@Dr.Mcstaby Let's say however that there is a re-incarnation. Would you rather let such a soul re-incarnate and start a new life or let it suffer till the rest of its current life?
She stole the husbands money, gave it to Ashley to hide it, Ashely spent it, the judge told the fiend if she doesn't return the money by......he would jail her. When she asked Ashley for the money she stole Ashley takes her for a drive to a relatives farm and puts a slug in the back of her head. Nothing beautiful there, quite ugly actually.
Thought the same. Obviously the video is cropped but if that was his first thought…well his wife couldn’t have been a very good person to begin with hahah
@crissyoi The video said they wanted to know what he did that day, so he pulled statements to see where he'd been, because he didn't remember. If they asked me where I was a certain day, I'd need a calendar, refer to my schedule for that week, and if I happened to be in another town on business or something, bank records sure would be handy to have if you don't save every receipt you're given.
Thank you for posting this video 🎉. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great 👍 work. It’s amazing 🤩 to see. How much your body language. Can give off what’s in your mind. Dam..
I broke up with a woman recently who seemed like the sweetest person on the planet. Soft spoken, really pretty, cared for sick animals, I thought I was on to a winner. Within a few weeks of moving in with her, her charade fell apart. She used to spit on me, slap me, kick me, punch me, throw boiling water at and eventually stabbed me. I spent nearly a decade in the military and have seen front line action, not much scares me these days, but there were many occasions with this woman that I genuinely feared for my life and couldn't sleep. The hardest part was that she always threatened to tell the police I was being violent to her, which was never the case, I'd sooner walk out than get physical with her, but the threat was always present. And it hurt even more so when she'd be violent to me, and then threaten to call the police on me. She had major psychological issues and it's evident why someone seemingly so sweet, and so beautiful, could still be single. I survived her wrath, and I pity the next guy who falls for her song and dance.
that was weird, I'm fairly confident I could ask anyone I know what degree their wife has and where it's from and they would answer with 100% confidence
Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash
An important thing to consider when evaluating Zach's body language is it sounds like he is a former investigator or at the very least has friends who are. He has confidence and experience in the system, making him more comfortable in it. JCS has an interesting video on innocent questionings and the majority are nothing like this but instead very uncomfortable experiences for the innocent who don't have experience and are afraid of being falsely accused.
I held onto a relatives 22k for 7 years. When they came back to withdraw it....I gave it all to them. Never spent it. I ain't that kind of person. I may not be religious and I hate taking political sides but I always keep my word when it comes to safekeeping
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No, his doubt was the way that she did it, him saying “it’s just sloppy” means he would think if she did something like that she’d be more careful but instead she left tons of evidence.
Seriously I'd have to really convince myself to chill out. But on the inside I'd be like "SHIT THIS IS GETTING PINNED ON ME AND I DIDN'T DO A GOD D*MN THING!" 😳😅😰☠😞
@@erikbudrow1255 pointing at and having concrete evidence is not the same, unless you get framed by someone, you are most likely going to be fine due to lack of evidence
@@0Atche0 *Most likely* yes, but the *evidence* shows that people get wrongly accused AND CONVICTED all the time without being framed. Hell, when I was arrested, both the police officer and I were asked to give written accounts of the event and I got to see what he wrote (it was my legal right). There were lots of details that did not line up. Go figure. Get with reality bro. This "justice" system is far from perfect and I have learned from multiple experiences to stay far far away from any activity that could put me on the radar of the authorities because the truth gets distorted so incredibly easily and shit happens to people who don't deserve it.
The level of greed involved to kill your own friends over a couple thousand dollars because you couldn’t control a dumb spending spree is mind boggling.
I see many of these videos about body language in interviews. Some body language can be an indicator of guilt, but it can also mean nothing. Its perfectly normal to feel insecure and adopt that kind of body language if you're not used to bee interviewed by the police and feel uncomfortable. We have to remember that in the back of any innocent persons mind there is a small thought that says how do I not talk my self into this.
Intelligent people are good a critical thinking, can entertain complex conditional hypotheticals, and often get away with stuff like this. "Educated" just means you can follow instructions, you're half decent at rote memorization, or you're likeable, attractive, good at manipulation, a cheater, etc. They aren't mutually exclusive, but there is a clear distinction between the concepts. There are high IQ bums, and room temp IQ millionaires. Never assume someone is smart based on a peice of paper.
Ex ducare in Latin means to lead out of..and inter legere means to lay into or to impart. I suppose you can be educated and still a dumbass and you can be intelligent even without education. It's fortunate when intelligence and education have a meeting in a person's life. I was educated, but I hardly used any of the knowledge that was imparted into me in school...they are merely snapple facts at this point and little trinkets like Christmas ornaments on my mental tree. I drive a truck where I have all day to marvel over my mental tinsel and then sometimes I shake my head and some of it falls into someone else's lap 😆
Right cause he was like she's intelligent she has a master / bachelor degree one of the two 😂 I was like ummm. 😳☝️ Baby. Lmao it's not funny but that sent me to the moon 😂 I was like WTF does a degree have to do with anything when you are a sick minded person.
@carolinasweettea3 its has nothing to do with her mind. He just can't believe that she murdered someone and its a sloppy murder because she has a bachelor or master in Criminology (most likely or something related).
You can have nothing to hide and still feel uncomfortable and threatened when interviewed on your own in a small room by 3 detectives who could hold your entire future in their hands
When they talk about body-language in these videos, this is a great example of a guy who has nothing to hide and simply wants to set the record straight. Sits up straight, even leans into the back of the chair. Very open posture, looking everyone in the eye as he speaks, answering everything directly and quickly.
Honestly, I was less than impressed with their assessment of his body language. They mentioned he was leaning back and also leaning forward...what other postures could he have had?? Standing on his head? LMAOOOO
@@erikbudrow1255Lean to the sides? Move his legs? Nice good head? Nothing entirely different, but there is a ton of variations he might have been going through.
@@McFrax Right, so no matter what other nuances he does with his posture makes no bit of difference lmao ...unless there's some expert out there that can convince me otherwise lol
@@erikbudrow1255 There was another video of a women that was relatively calm until the interview started pointing at her being guilty, at which point she started rocking back and forth, and eventually spinning around, making big circles with her head. I think she stopped that only after it became clear that she's done. These reactions are not a proof anyway, but they can be a strong hint one way or the other.
Imagine someone who you loved. Someone who was kind, caring, and smart. Had told you that they'd be busy, only to find out they had committed a murder that day.
07:06 "Zach's open body language indicates no signs of guilt." **WRONG!** His open body language indicates that he *trusts the investigators.* This is an important distinction, because *distrust* of the investigators could have come from *anything.* * Who knows that the cops are competent enough to actually figure out your innocence? * Who knows that they aren't just sloppy, latch onto the first piece of evicence and call it a day? * Who knows that they have good intentions to begin with? These are all questions that could pop up in one's head when you are being investigated for bloody *murder,* so conflating *trust* with guilt or innocence is a very dangerous thing.
@karlwithak. Wrong - reading body language is a useful tool that can be used as a guide for investigators. It's true that it's not a replacement for evidence, but saying it's meaningless is incorrect.
@@neonjoe529Nah, body language experts have been demonstrated to be unreliable pseudoscience grifters pretty thoroughly at this point. The issue is that, while body language can be indicative of certain emotional states, it's: 1) Not universally reliable. Different cultural backgrounds, body types, disabilities, neurodivergences, etc can produce a wide range of various body languages for various reasons without true reliable consistency. The neurodivergent aspect in particular is a huge issue with "body language forensics", as anyone even slightly familiar with autism, ADHD, etc will note how the vast majority of what so-called body language experts cite as signs of guilts are literally just common neurodivergent symptoms such as aversion to eye contact and fidgeting. 2) Plagued by bias when used as "evidence." Like what is often considered indicative of guilt is actually just indicative of anxiety, but it's presumed by police that said anxiety itself is an indication of guilt, as opposed to indicative of...y'know, being interrogated by police. The vast majority of body language expert content -- this video included -- are from a retrospective perspective. It's kinda like a psychic telling you about the world events of yesterday. Once you already know the outcome of a case it's incredibly easy to go back and cherry pick body language claiming that it's clear evidence. But actual science and controlled studies have shown that the predictions and assertions of body language experts without the benefit of retrospection are less reliable than a random coin flip. It's not a real science, it's pseudoscience sophistry that's nevertheless endorsed by law enforcement as it gives them more excuses and power to accuse and detain people with impunity -- they just have to cite "suspicious body language".
Do not EVER agree to talk the police without an attorney present. He sincerely wanted to help them since it was a coworker...... But he knew that even then - you better have an attorney with you.
@@abigaildyer04he is making fun of how police can claim any reaction, even lack of reactions has suspicious. Example - Police can pull you for suspicious driving for driving under, over and the exact speed limit. There are dozens of videos on the internet about it.
I had to find out my former husband was a pedophile... I had seen some red flag behavior that disturbed me so I left him. His family who is highly religious persecuted me for leaving him. He had everyone including me fooled. I warned a friend of his who had little girls and he cussed me out. I left anyways and started my life over. 2 years later inheard he had died from a heart attack so I called his friend and he told me he had a warrant out for his arrest for molesting his 7 year old daughter. When you know you know...I just have no idea if he's had more victims. That whole process nearly killed me mentally emotionally and spiritually. But God is good and I'm glad he's gone and I just have to live with the memory and the ghost of it all. I wish the friend would have believed me and protected his little girl from him, but he has to live with that guilt.
@@aqua6613 Oh my goodness that sounds terrible! 😩 I pray God continues to bless you as you are recovering from that situation internally. It’s sad what our world has come to 😔
@@aqua6613 If I have a friend and someone told me he is a pedo I would defend that friend but I would not leave him or have him around my kids better safe than sorry.
That money wasn't given to Ashley for "safekeeping." It was given to Ashley because Taylor was hiding assets because she was going through a divorce. That doesn't justify what happened to her, but that's what happened.
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It so refreshing to see an innocent persons body language for once
Lol. It's definitely a rarity to see someone completely innocent like this guy. This guy seems like a real decent guy to chill with.
If he was not innocent, the narrator would have said “hes nervous. Hes tapping his feet and hes slouched over which is not a confident posture. Hes also stuttering which is a sign of deception.” Dont believe this body language bs.
@@Weightingtablesafter also @ 6:54 when they ask if he knew anything or participated in the murder he nodded yes while verbally saying no. That's something they would have pointed to show he's guilty.
@@haloaflame8164sadly always that type that gets with a hot girl and get cheated on.
@@zulemadelapaz2381so true! I watch these and they talk about how alarming some body language is and I’m just like I really hope I’m never interrogated for anything because I do everything they say is bad. I tap my foot, I ring my hands, I also nod yes while saying no, I stutter, I say to be honest a lot. Like those are all things these Channels flag as guilty behavior.
So she destroyed the victim's life, her life and her husbands life for $34,000. Got it. Makes total sense.
capitalism
That is a lot of money
Yeah... not worth it. Go work. Pain and suffering for everyone, to include herself. $34k?! without a real way out on the back end? Master's Degree?! Must've been from one of those universities of Phoenix, some online bs.
I lost 34k trading Fubo. Who do I shoot?? 😂
@@kinTaro-ju5xu Not really.
If he was found guilty - "his posture remains unchanged, carefully controlled - even though an innocent person might become defensive or angry at being wrongfully accused."
I agree
Yes! I've heard that said before.
😂😂
Magistrate once held up a traffic ticket I was pissed about, because the cop flat out lied under oath. Said I wouldn't be so angry if I wasn't guilty. No honey, you get madder when you're not guilty, seriously.
Also, being a PI, it is safe to assume he would know about tells and thus be able to give out ones that make him appear innocent.
This dude is so genuine and honest, he’s so refreshing 😭
I love how it wasn't that he thought she was too good a person to murder someone, he just thought she would be less sloppy about hiding a murder. That's pretty telling about her.
It was interesting to see his thought processes when the officer asked him his opinion based on his work experience. It reminds me a bit of when I had to get gum surgery -- my other friend said, why didn't you get a second opinion? I, also being a dentist said, oh, no need. I pretty much was the second opinion.
She was a CSI tech.
That's pretty amazing when you think about it. He never once responded in disbelief because of any good character on his wife's part.
‘She’s super intelligent. She’s got a criminal- uh, masters- bachelor’s?’
Some slip. A criminal what?
They are watching too many to catch a murder type shows. So they think they can get away with it.
It should be said, never, ever, ever let the police interrogate you without a lawyer. Even if you’re 100% not guilty. Plenty of innocent people have talked themselves into a jail cell because they ran afoul of some obscure legal tripwire.
best advice ever
Never, ever, ever let the police interrogate you without a lawyer. Especially if you’re 100% not guilty.
@antoniorobles8706 Do not answer any questions period ever because police will try to lock you into a story even if your not guilty just to make you arrest
You can easily talk yourself into prison but not out of it
Edited so it makes sense lol
@@Traindomwhat??
That poor husband. He seems like an amazing person and I hope he's happy as of now.
Happy??? I'd say his happiness went out the window here.
Happy???? She also was piped by another dude and out killing someone at the same time!!!😂
@@acousticshadow4032literally. I’d imagine how sad he would feel after finding out his own wife that he thought he could trust is a murderer
All three cops keep their legs crossed the entire time..they are clearly GUILTY AF
What…do you think the cops are guilty of?
@@NewnodrogbobI think it’s a joke, since so many youtubers are “experts” in body language when really body language could be a certain amount of indicators. So many that it’s extremely unreliable, but yet people keep pointing at it as an admission of guilt.
@@armtehcannon4813 that tracks…I was being dumb because I arrived here from other crime/police videos where all of the comments are ravening unreasoning hatred of police.
@@NewnodrogbobStupidity
@@armtehcannon4813 I thought he was acting and being a private detective he could’ve set her up. I like to hear her side.., before believing him… or these cops.
Imagine having to come to terms with the fact his wife killed someone. My heart goes out to this man. Poor soul
it wasn't so much that she killed someone, it was the getting caught part that bothered him. His wife would be better at concealing a murder.
@@mgntstrActually I think the crazy embarrassing part is she did this heinous crime to buy her "Cotejo" Umm lover/ B.F. a 🏍️,a ⛵ & other gifts.
@@orlandoromero22and he didn’t see her cheating?? Like come on man he was a P.I. This gave him a easy out, he just had to wait for the cards to fall.
@@mgntstr It's never apparent that that is what "bothers" him. Hes simply saying for their experience, how could she be so stupid if she actually did commit the crime
I think he's having a harder time coming to terms with the fact she is not as smart as he thought.
I actually appreciate the fact that her husband was so baffled and offended by how sloppy and especially stupid her actions were, embarrassingly so, that he didn’t even address the fact that he didn’t even doubt her ability to do what she’s accused of or question her obvious guilt in his estimation.
Honestly, I am too. They're PI's! 😂
@jheanelltabana8713 I have found people that are good at snooping into other people's lives are oblivious to their own.
This is exactly what they mean when they say, "You're too close to this."
It happens to law enforcement officers, lawyers, investigators, and even forensic analysts all the time.
@@mw-pl5rg "The shoemaker's children go barefoot"
@@BabalonNuit Excellent analogy and allegory. Wisdom and wit are rare in this time. Be blessed.
Imagine the friend that let her hold the $34,000. The friend never imagined she would come face to face with such evil.
No disrespect to the dead, but are we gonna gloss over the fact, that the victim intentionally hid money from her ex husband because of the divorce settlement? She wasn’t exactly innocent.
Get an attorney people, even if you're innocent. Don't talk to police without one.
Even if you’re innocent 😂
@@nl212ep Why's that funny?
@@nl212epprisons are filled with people who thought they had nothing to worry about due to their innocence. There have been entire books written and talks held by countless law professionals. Cops are allowed to lie to you and, especially in the United States, have a history of misconstrued facts and the use of pseudoscientific forensics. Polygraphs are a big one, just to name one. There also are countless cases of state attorneys, judges and prosecutors actively trying to sabotage appeals, including but not limited to the admission of new, DNA-based forensic evidence. the biggest reason for this is that, after passing the bar, you pass on much better offers in private practice, with the expectation of it only being a temporary stop on the road to eventual, bigger riches after returning to private practice. The resulting scheming and manipulation in the name of polishing up one’s CV has lead to truly horrifying consequences. Better be safe than sorry. I’ll gladly pay up for a lawyer.
@@nl212epespecially if you are Innocent
@@sandrak4119 indeed
Thank you for making more consumable content than a lot of other channels. I don't always have 2-3 hours for a full interrogation.
Maaaaaaaaaaan. Too many times am I interested I the content but don't have 90 minutes to watch it
Then watch it in segments. I love 90 min interrogation films. Sometimes I watch them while exercising or just playing in the background while im doing work.
@@DHworldwide185 right I fall to sleep to them sometimes
@@DHworldwide185 That's a good idea x
Do something else while you watch it. I never just sit and watch UA-cam videos. Exercise, cook, clean, on your commute etc etc.
A murder of a friend over $34k.... Gotta be one true evil person to do something like that. Insane.
Is my friendship worth 34k? Maybe.. probably not. My life is tho ffs don't kill me over it. Crazy.
friendship shouldnt have a price tag associated with it in any way
@@callofdoody21 Well it does.. turns out its about $34,000 lol.
I my experience money doesn't mix well with family or friends. You should always be as secretive as possible with your money. A little off the video subject is how people come out of the woodwork when someone with money passes away. It's amazing how people's personalities change at the prospect of getting money for nothing.
My son was murdered for his $42,000 bank account 12-11-16 the day before my granddaughter's 3rd birthday. 31 days later, my granddaughter's mother, uncle, and new boyfriend/co-worker, were arrested and charged with his death.
I feel so bad for him. Divorce sucks, but having a murderer wife is worse. How do you even recover from that? Finding out the person you trust most is actually a murderer is insane.
Nah, at least she doesn't take half his money this way
Would make the divorce easier
It's like a death. You don't fully recover.
Not really. nothing is worse than divorse in Murica
Imagine trying to date after that. Explaining that you've been married before. Or your date googling you and your first wife
Man. Zach was an absolute man of honor. That stupid lady didn't deserve him at all. And to do such a gruesome murder - that takes some guts. I feel sorry for the loss of life as for everyone whose life was affected, apart from the murderer.
The fact she ran away with 38 thousand dollars and he was still saying "I can't see her doing something like that" as an ex-officer is incredibly telling of how powerful of a narcissist she is.
I mean, damn. She ruined your whole life.
You have no idea what narcissistic people can do to your brain, even if you able to leave them you still have PTSD!
Boom
It's hard to believe someone you are close to let alone someone you love is capable of doing something that horrible. I found out my ex put a baby down in boiling hot water and caused scars all over his back and legs. They tried to say it was an accident but you don't accidentally boil a baby. It happened before we met and I didn't find out until after we'd broken up. I couldn't believe it and I wasn't even in love anymore. You just think you know someone
@@Larkin4840 it's surreal experience and not in a good way it fu*ks you up .
Ana how love can make people blind
not only did she do something horrible, but she obviously lost an intelligent, loyal & decent man who was her husband
Not that intelligent. He was letting her handle all the finances and knew nothing about how she was doing it. So...actually a doofus.
@@charlesfaure1189 haha well that's a fair point
@@meg2231 ANd I heard she was cheating on him
@@suspicious2delicious the horror
@@sainvol Your wife cheating on you =(
My heart goes out to Zach and hope he gets whatever help he needs to get through this. ☮☮
this is the truth- there is a spiritual war that influences the physical world. The people in power in power worship an entity named lucifer. That name is only found in The Bible and satan tried to tempt Jesus Christ with all the kingdoms of the world if He bowed down and worshipped him. Jesus did not but the people with the most influence- celebrities, politicians, billionaires, etc- they have. The first description of satan in The Bible is that he is subtle- and in the world the media subtly leads people away from the truth. The only religious figure that these people are against is Jesus Christ. Do not be turned away by the name of Jesus- this is the truth and the video proves it beyond any amount of doubt. I know the video is long but look at the comments from the people that watched the video if you want to know it’s credibility. This satanic group is what people call the illuminati.
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$34,000 the price of your friend’s life… What a sick individual…
Body language can't always be used to determine guilt or innocence. I had years of childhood trauma and when I feel attacked, even verbally, I go right into a very defensive mode to protect myself.
Thats why they check the phone records and check his answers against evidence.
I noticed that about my husband when I had an argument with him where I just busted out yelling and he completely froze. He had severely pissed me off, but his reaction pissed me off even more about myself. I made it a point to vent my anger somewhere else rather than to bust it out on him. He wouldn't have heard anything I said anyways due to dissonance. I've had my own childhood trauma, but instead of freezing up anymore I snap out of it really quickly and then I go on attack and defense mode. I used to swallow up all my trauma and feelings...
It is better to remove myself when I feel my anger coming on and he understands when I excuse myself and then find elsewhere to vent and then I can come back and we can talk about things because my communication style just scares the shit out of him.
Doesn't happen much because I do have levels of self control.
yeah I'd be screwed if police brought me in and started throwing questions at me rapidly that seemed accusatory. I get extremely nervous even if I haven't done anything I start thinking what if they start digging and find something I did years ago that's embarrassing like my porn views (legal but no one wants their weird Stuff they watched once way back)
my body language would show nervousness and I guess guilt I'm going to do more research now to see the exact cues which broadcast guilty
That's still a body language baseline.
And body language will give you away every time.
Being defensive in and of itself isn't a sign of deception anyway. It's actually more common in this situation.
Imagine if someone accused anyone of a murder they didn't commit.
First would be shock.
Then anger.
Then depending on the reaction (and level of intensity) of all parties involved, it goes from there. .but body language will give a person away immediately.
If you're NOT defensive when being accused of something serious and ridiculous, then you're more likely guilty - as compared to the vice versa.
these all seem like things easy enough to exploit. A poor decider of guilt or innocence.
As someone who suffers from anxiety, body language isn’t always the best way to determine the truth. I would genuinely be nervous even knowing i did not do anything.
Everyone has anxiety
@@densincomprehend8879everybody has anxiety *to healthy degrees*. However, some people have anxiety DISORDERS, which causes the anxiety response to take over even when there's no perceived danger. So, yes, everybody has anxiety, but not everybody has ANXIETY, as in, a troubling disorder that's rather serious.
@@whokilledthesunv4768 guess what...... What you describe can happen to anyone depending on the situation.
@@densincomprehend8879 no. It's legitimate psychiatric disorder. Educate yourself. We're talking about permanent states of anguish, not about one particular moment or situation. Living with severe anxiety disorders legally counts as a disability.
@@whokilledthesunv4768 no because im sick of people using everything like this as an excuse you cannot tell which case is real and which case is not real because so many people use it as an excuse. OMGGGG I CAN'T BE SOCIAL I GOT ANXIETY OMG I CAN'T WORK I GOT ANXIETY OMGGGGGG 😭😭😭😭
He seems truly disappointed in how poorly she planned out the murder.
This guy was nuts for talking to the cops. Never, ever cooperate. That's a great way for an innocent person to go to jail.
He was a cop himself.
He probably knows more than the detectives interviewing him. He knew what he was doing. Also, in the video it is mentioned that he did talk to his attorney.
The idea of being able to tell who is innocent and who is not based upon body language has been proven wrong so many times. The interrogators did a good job from my limited experience. But let’s be clear, the evidence freed this man not his body language.
Yes, this is AN IMPORTANT POINT. too much talk in comments about body lanugage as evidence. Its bullshit.
You are absolutely right. There have been many people whose body language was all over the place and yet they were innocent. Those people were simply nervous about the situation they were dealing with.
the sad fact is, you are right. If someone lacks confidence, or is under the weather while they are being questioned, they inadvertently sabotage their defense,.@@stingcoldplay1
Yep, using the silly "body language expertise" employed in this video, the female detective is actually the murderer since she repeatedly crossed her arms and displayed closed off body language : D
I have Tourette’s and under stress sometimes my tics come out. If I was being interrogated by the police for a murder I would be panicking and probably acting weird. Body language expert is a ridiculous thing. That’s like being an expert in phrenology
Robbing a desperate person who trusted you with their money, then murdering them when they ask for it back, so horrendously cruel.
BAD character flaw.
They use that plot in many tv shows
Both women were horrible drug using party animals who where lesbian lovers. The 35000 dollars was the dead women's husband money that she stole from the husband before she divorced him. Then tried to get more though almoney and childsupport. She won custody only to give the kids back a few weeks later so she could party with her murderer gf. Look into the case both where horrible people
@@crazychase98 WOW! Makes sense.
@yourewelcome192 It does this thing is from about 5 years ago or so. It's pretty crazy moral of the story dont commit crimes and let women in on it they shoot you in the back!
This husband Zack seems like a Good guy just a good person. Hope him and her daughter are doing OK.
My heart truly aches for this honest, innocent, lovely man.
Holy crap. It's scary to think people are willing to take someone's life over something as little as $30k.
Not trying to be contrarian, but people get killed for waaaaay less then 30k, which is at least somewhat substantial. But I agree, it's sad and pathetic.
Some people would kill for our bike being thieved. Specifically when it is maybe 50% of anything significant we owned at the time.
Not justifying it, but $30k is far from little,
@@C0ncep1t Bro. Overconsuming Americans who make 30k a year drive cars that cost more than 30k. Yes, it's all done through easy credit, but still. I make way more than that, several times that, but I have rarely spent more than half of that on a car. 30k ain't shit in the grand scheme of things. Tons of folks have retirement accounts that swing more than 30k down or up in a week sometimes. Anyone that thinks 30k is worth a life is insane.
And then how sloppy this was made. I somehow feel she almost wanted to be caught, out of some weird reason
Disgusting how she preyed on her friend who trusted her. She was going through a divorce and trusted her to help her😢
An episode of American Greed
She was stealing $ from her husband and hiding it during the divorce- neither of these women were good people
@@Vexrakexactly
@@Vexrak crazy how naive people are about the situation
@Vexrak exactly what I was thinking, you don't hide Financials in a divorce they're entitled to half unless you got a prenup
speechless. i’ve seen countless videos about this case on youtube- including major broadcasters- like dateline and 48 hours. this is the first i think any of us have seen this video/his side of things. well done, you deserve all the followers for both just copying and pasting the same bullet points
To the people thinking, when he said "I can't see her doing something like that", that he is influenced by her narcissistic personality NO that's not what he meant, he describes her as being highly intelligent and having a master degree ,while the murder was a sloppy job. He thought she was too smart to be so dumb.
Not for a second did he think "She wouldnt do that" only "If she did, she wouldn't have done it this poorly"
Exactly
Certainly, her own phone gave her up as to her being at the murder scene and then keeping the victims phone with her as she goes to the wedding. Bit dumb for someone with a degree/masters in Criminology.
The trick is to turn off your phone's geo-location and then turn off the victims phone location and turn it off.
A similar case happened in Melbourne, Australia a few years ago. A young woman disappeared on her way home from work (and she happened to work with one of the news channels so they had a big interest in the story). Turns out this guy with a history of sexual assault, attacked her, dragged her into a lane way and started to assault her, then bundled her into his car, raped her then strangled her to death and then drove to a remote location on the outskirts of Melbourne. Phone records showed the two phones (his and hers) travelling together, video footage from the Toll Road was linked with the timeline of travel, and the time spent out in the remote suburb. Video surveillance, phone location record matching and a check of known criminals in the area pointed to the eventual murderer.
Now that bastard will rot in jail. Unfortunately, nothing can bring back that young woman or mend her fiance's broken heart, all because some dude couldn't control his trouser brain!
@@markfryer9880 You cant turn off your phones geo location. Sure, you can turn off its GPS connection, but its still hooked into the telephone tower system, and regularly pings it for Data, cell service, the time of day, etc. If they get a warrant on your cell records, they can look through it, and do the math based on which towers you pinged, to calculate your location give or take 100 feet.
Proving yet again the majority of murderers are rancid dimwits.😅
I’ve listened to several podcasts & Dateline about this case. None of them said much about the killer's husband. I didn't know anything beyond he was a cop and that Ashley was cheating on him. Thanks for focusing on this man's experience on this sad story. I really like another UA-cam channel, Dreading, because he often focuses on the collateral damage around a crime. I'm glad to see you also do that!
Dreading is fantastic, and the reason every video they release is great is because of the massive amount of empathy they show and what you said; that they focus on the collateral damage around the crime/criminal.
Thanks for the recommendation. Heading there after this 👍
@@mhairimushroom5601definitely recommend Dreading! He’s thoughtful with his videos and very thorough
@@mhairimushroom5601 there's also Coffeehouse Crime.
Yes!! A totally new perspective!!
Thank you for pointing out all the things that guilty people versus innocent people tend to do in interrogations I'm taking detailed notes and practicing
That poor man, so blindsided that even as a PI he had trouble seeing the truth.
The poor man was taken in by the person he loved so much. She deserved life without parole, she stole her friends money, and premeditated her murder. Evil has no bounds!
I didn't hear the whole case, but it didn't sound like it was premeditated if she had already spent all the money but didn't kill her until the day she asked for it back.
@@ellakajfasz2569 so they just so happened to meet up on a farm that her relatives own. She filled in the grave with concrete she purchased from a hardware store! What about her using the husband’s phone and not her own. Sounds premeditated to me. 😁
So sad, I went true same with my woman gave her not everything but alot
Lol. He’s got you.
she deserve it not for what she did. but for getting more funding for the prisons. we need prison reform
Man, this legit gives chills.
Imagine spending your life with the person you love only to find out she's a monster-the worst type of monster
I respect your opinion, but I disagree.kid rapists/killers are the worst monsters
@@sweetkiwipie1569yes, but that doesnt make monsters like her any less. The wife over here doesnt deserve any form of forgiveness
@@MehrubaAfrozI reckon murderers are worst, personally I don’t believe in an afterlife and the thought of losing your one singular chance to walk this earth to some monster is terrifying, at the very least with being raped there is a chance of recovery, no matter how small
as long as they dont try to kill me or make me a accomplice i dont care 😅
You don't even need to be a person of color always. Hmmm🤔
I question the reliability of these "signs of guilt".
I look stressed and guilty when I walk out of a shop without buying anything.
it’s copaganda. Cop interrogation techniques like the Reid technique are proven time and time again to be bunk. Their intent is to prove everyone who walks in as guilty
Thank you so very much for how you did this and gave us the ending of what happen in court. Love it
This man had no idea how close he came to getting charged in this murder. Had Ashley lied and said he was in on it he’d have got life.
100%. Garauntee he would've been even placed as the master mind of the whole thing solely because he was a man
unfortunate truth
Reason #274 for why you NEVER talk to cops without a lawyer no matter how innocent you are
@@whyumadtho355Because he's a cop.
@@dovidstaples9985He had a lawyer present
Not talking to the cops without a lawyer aside, I don't see many people acknowledging just how horrible a realization that must have been for the guy. Within seconds his whole world was utterly obliterated. I hope he's been able to process all that and move forward...
(EDIT: Alright, I get it, the lawyer's in the room, 30 other people have already told me, you don't need to waste your time lmao)
His lawyer is there. The one who told him to let the interrogator finish his question before answering is his lawyer.
he dodged not a bullet but the atomic bond
How did he not see his wife spending an extra $34k? What did she buy and how long a period was she 'holding' the money?
@davemarnell8871 according to that bank statement they showed, it looks like she paid off thousands of dollars in credit cards the day after she got the money. And the account was negative the day before. She may not have purchased anything, just paid off debt. That would go unnoticed if he never paid attention to the finances in the first place. It's not like she made any big purchases
@@zinger777 This is always the dumbest comment. Millions of people talk to the police to help them solve crimes. And it's the right thing to do.
25 years to life?!
Every teenage boy gets life without parole for something like that.
It's absolutely ridiculous how women are treated
Exactly!! This guy would've gotten life in prison if he had any involvement simply for being a man.
Thank you for giving us such a nice tips Jeff. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
Which is worse? Finding out that your wife cheated on you, or finding out that your wife committed murder?
Great Question Sam
Cheating.
First one for sure, i rather deal with disappointment and disgust than heartbreak, might be my BPD talking tho 😂
Tricky question!
a woman would say murder while I think a man would say cheated on you
The fact that he went to the bank to get a statement to make a timeline for his day is incredible. I literally would have never thought of that.
i mean he was a pi himself once so i guess he has a good idea on what would prove his innocence
Im not a PI and long ago i thought the only thing i could think of was call the bank to see what transactions i INITIATED ...NOT processed on said date... I wonder if a satellite can regurgitate what we watched on TV on said date.. Also your computer search engine could help too... my cats help ..well shes napping ALL the time -she didnt see nothing
@@pilarq7886 I'm sorry but what does PI mean? Is that like a term? Thanks 😊
private investigator
@@benjoseph25private investigator
Heartbreaking seeing that wholesome guy slowly hitting that realisation
A PI would be 100% informed about what body language they look for in interviews
Don't ever let somebody ELSE handle your finances.
Ever
Money is the root to evil. Taylor should never have handed over $34,000 to anyone except a financial institution.
Yep. My ex wife cleaned out our savings.
@@user-gf3kw4sl9q- Money isn't. It's the "love" of money that's the root of all evil. Not just money by itself.
@user-gf3kw4sl9q Money isn't the root of all evil. There was absolute evil in tribal humanity before money. That kind of evil still exists regardless of the existence of money.
I'm glad this one isn't so ridiculously long and drawn out like most other YT crime interview
Except when it’s long and drawn out, you get a little more context. I prefer a long interrogation video, I’ve learned a lot more from those rather than these short videos that skim over a lot of important info. In my opinion, this is one of the weaker true crime channels
Me too it was straight to the point ☝️❤
@@SpaceJockey805 I can respect that completely
@@Eazy-ERyderThank you for respecting it completely. Complete efforts shall not go unnoticed.
Agreed, this is why I am watching!
By the moment he heard “feelings aside” he just accepted that his heart had to break for justice.
Despite the pain he barely doubts on what to do, didn’t escape, and gave whatever he could. For a sincerely loving husband it’s so freaking brave!
snitching =/= brave
Being a PI would make it very easy for him to plan this.
Yeah, that's the joke here, everybody is so sure he's just that dumb, but his job is in an industry that knows how it all goes... fools.
Over a 34k shopping spree? If that is how little someone values a friendship, let alone a friends freaking life, that person is a psychopath. She will still be a danger to society in 25 years. Keep her locked up for life.
Let alone anyone’s life really. A normal person would value a complete strangers life more than $34k.
I have read news on people killing for less than that
@@lastcallbartendingla8849 People get murdered for less than that literally every single day
People have been killed for alot less....like road rage...or I rememeber this case where a lady was killed over $8.
@@TheCabledawg1 I think that with road rage, and many other murderous crimes, the victim can become a kind of a symbol in the mind of the killer of all the people that have annoyed and disrespected him over the years -- people he was unable to punish as he'd have liked to. In this way, even a very small incident can trigger a kind of avalanche. It's like they say, "I've had enough of these *&# holes!" This is just one reason why it's unwise to push people. You don't know what they've been bottling up or how they'll see you.
Married people do not have to testify against one another. Spousal privilege.
I can’t tell you Jason. They clearly know each other. Then he says I don’t know buddy. They are clearly friends.
Everyone saying he shouldn't be talking to the cops without a lawyer present isn't paying attention. Check the bottom left corner, the guy taking notes is his lawyer. And if you're still not sure, 10:38 . Pay attention.
People who say this are either dumb or they cheer for the murderer. Millions of people talk to the police to help them solve crimes.
Good catch. Thank you for pointing that out.
Right?!
He used to be a cop himself, after all.
Thank you, i very rarely watch , i tend to just listen, 😊 Have a wonderful day 😊
PSA Reminder: Don't talk to cops without a lawyer, even if you're innocent, specially if you're innocent.
Sound logic. You will never become "more innocent" by talking to them.
Especially about a murder.
@@PocketKneif Especially when they start asking you about your movements!
@Dr Insanity idk if you get around to reading all of these but I want you to know that your production style is next-to-none followed by a select few in this space. You’re awesome and really easy to listen to! The way you present brings me back to my childhood watching my grandmas “programs”(remember when everyone said ‘my program’? Haha wow)
You’ve only recently appeared in my recommendations but you deserve this sub wholly. Genuinely feels like I’m watching Discovery in 2005 without the music and I thank you for the content.
Husband knows more than he's saying.
No one we like is capable of anything like that until reality decides to beat the sh*t out of our innocence.
I loved the clickbait though, making it look like if the detective was the wife
On the contrary. Something I learned early in life is absolutely EVERYBODY is capable of horrible things. Everybody. No exceptions. And you'd be surprised who's WILLING.
@kristinsevin No not everybody, that's false as hell. Some would literally rather commit suicide than kill another person.
@@jgs_gamestudio9096 being willing and being capable are two entirely different things. No person has ever existed, exists, or will ever exist that isn’t capable of atrocious shit. I’m tired of the saying that humans are a good species that sometimes do bad things. No, humans are a terrible species fueled by greed, hate, envy, etc that are capable of doing some good every once in a while. Just because you aren’t willing to do bad, doesn’t mean that human nature doesn’t lend itself to being capable of doing bad.
@kevinexline5392 no offense but that sounds dumb af. That's like saying anyone is capable of picking up a knife and stabbing the closet person, like no shit.
But some people, would never - ever kill another human being, because they decided internally that they would never do so - under any circumstance.
Imagine spending all that time in prison over 34K…. Life you could have just picked some overtime for 12-18 months but instead you lose 25 years.. What was she thinking
Makes me wonder if she had run the business into the ground and she was afraid the husband was about to find out.
She could of made an onlyfans and maybe made it even quicker ..
Right. Or take out a damn loan. Smh two lives wasted
@@shelocsher2396 3 counting her husband, or maybe he dodged a huge bullet.
If you watch the other videos about her she spent most of that money on her side boyfriend she bought him a bought and a bunch of other things
The husband was a victim too. I hope he divorced his wife and found a new life with somebody who could be what his wife was supposed to be.
My heart goes out to the family that lost a beautiful child. I am grateful for the detectives to put this monster behind bars forever.
She was hiding money from her husband prior to divorcing him. Hardly a lady or "beautiful child". Seems like she was a lying, conniving woman to me. Part of me wants to say she got what she deserved. I have to stop myself from thinking that way. Quite frankly I think both husbands here are better off to be rid of these witches.
sigh if only we would quit putting these things in boxes and just put them in the dirt so we did not have to pay for them and they would not to make big jails for them out of tax payers money the world we be a safer place cause a dead criminal can't hurt anyone anymore.
@@Dr.Mcstaby I mean you're not wrong...at all. It sucks, but you're not
@@Dr.Mcstaby Let's say however that there is a re-incarnation. Would you rather let such a soul re-incarnate and start a new life or let it suffer till the rest of its current life?
She stole the husbands money, gave it to Ashley to hide it, Ashely spent it, the judge told the fiend if she doesn't return the money by......he would jail her. When she asked Ashley for the money she stole Ashley takes her for a drive to a relatives farm and puts a slug in the back of her head. Nothing beautiful there, quite ugly actually.
Interesting that he says it couldn't be her because it was sloppy and not that she could never do anything so horrific.
Thought the same. Obviously the video is cropped but if that was his first thought…well his wife couldn’t have been a very good person to begin with hahah
What 'private investigator' AND former cop is that unaware?
There's a rat somewhere, as yet uncovered.
Believe THAT.
I mean also, if I'm being questioned and not told I'm a suspect, why on earth go pull my own bank statements to clear my name? Odd.
@crissyoi I mean, if the cops wanna know where I was the day of a murder and I can't remember then that's probably exactly what I'd do
@crissyoi
The video said they wanted to know what he did that day, so he pulled statements to see where he'd been, because he didn't remember. If they asked me where I was a certain day, I'd need a calendar, refer to my schedule for that week, and if I happened to be in another town on business or something, bank records sure would be handy to have if you don't save every receipt you're given.
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Ashley is cold as the North pole, not 1 tear, and zero remorse that is scary.
"The bad news is your wife has been cheating on you.."
"What? What the hell is the good news?!"
"She's going to prison until she's 90!"
"I have some bad news about your wife."
"Did she wreck the car?"
"No, she murdered someone."
"But the car's okay, right?"
How disturbing is this! 😢 I feel really bad for this guy.
Plot twist: as a PI he knew how to act, how to set everything up, how to manipulate the evidence in order to get rid of his overspending wife.
I broke up with a woman recently who seemed like the sweetest person on the planet. Soft spoken, really pretty, cared for sick animals, I thought I was on to a winner. Within a few weeks of moving in with her, her charade fell apart. She used to spit on me, slap me, kick me, punch me, throw boiling water at and eventually stabbed me. I spent nearly a decade in the military and have seen front line action, not much scares me these days, but there were many occasions with this woman that I genuinely feared for my life and couldn't sleep. The hardest part was that she always threatened to tell the police I was being violent to her, which was never the case, I'd sooner walk out than get physical with her, but the threat was always present. And it hurt even more so when she'd be violent to me, and then threaten to call the police on me. She had major psychological issues and it's evident why someone seemingly so sweet, and so beautiful, could still be single. I survived her wrath, and I pity the next guy who falls for her song and dance.
I apperciate your style of commentary! Other creators will stop every 10 seconds to explain why someone blinked and it drives me nuts.
+1
When someone is described as "super intelligent" you know they are not.
I'm surprised the husband didn't know if his wife had a master's or a bachelor's. He clearly didn't know her well.
that was weird, I'm fairly confident I could ask anyone I know what degree their wife has and where it's from and they would answer with 100% confidence
Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash
amazing,i am kinda in a similar situation,how did you handle it?
@@peterwilliams6361 well not the orthodox way but i was referred by a friend to a spiritual adviser and healer
@@DavidVelasquez9 please how can i get in touch with the spiritual adviser?
@@peterwilliams6361 her name is *Victoria Lee Hess* ,and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster
you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.
An important thing to consider when evaluating Zach's body language is it sounds like he is a former investigator or at the very least has friends who are. He has confidence and experience in the system, making him more comfortable in it.
JCS has an interesting video on innocent questionings and the majority are nothing like this but instead very uncomfortable experiences for the innocent who don't have experience and are afraid of being falsely accused.
@@anonyms1828 Ah cheers, must have missed it. Clearly experienced and comfortable with the system then.
@@coachellalyricist its mentioned in the video also bruv. Read the sub comment two comments above yours
He mentions in one of the first sentences he worked PI cases.
Imagine how a falsely accused social phobe was brought in for interrogation
He framed his wife and paid his bills with the victims money. No doubt
I held onto a relatives 22k for 7 years. When they came back to withdraw it....I gave it all to them. Never spent it. I ain't that kind of person. I may not be religious and I hate taking political sides but I always keep my word when it comes to safekeeping
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His main doubt wasn't that her morals or empathy would prevent her from becoming a killer, it was that she was too smart to get caught.
"emotions aside"
yeah true 😅
No, his doubt was the way that she did it, him saying “it’s just sloppy” means he would think if she did something like that she’d be more careful but instead she left tons of evidence.
@@dakotareid1566that’s what the OP meant lol. He felt she was too intelligent to do such a sloppy crime
And he asks I said she’s got a criminal.. and then stopped himself and they all said masters degree
If I was ever accused of murder, I don't think my body language would be anywhere close to calm lol
Seriously I'd have to really convince myself to chill out. But on the inside I'd be like "SHIT THIS IS GETTING PINNED ON ME AND I DIDN'T DO A GOD D*MN THING!" 😳😅😰☠😞
If you didn't do it, they wouldn't have any evidence of you doing it, so why would you be panicking unless something was linking you to it
@@0Atche0 People get falsely accused all the time because evidence seems to pointing in a direction that isn't actually consistent with reality.
@@erikbudrow1255 pointing at and having concrete evidence is not the same, unless you get framed by someone, you are most likely going to be fine due to lack of evidence
@@0Atche0 *Most likely* yes, but the *evidence* shows that people get wrongly accused AND CONVICTED all the time without being framed. Hell, when I was arrested, both the police officer and I were asked to give written accounts of the event and I got to see what he wrote (it was my legal right). There were lots of details that did not line up. Go figure.
Get with reality bro. This "justice" system is far from perfect and I have learned from multiple experiences to stay far far away from any activity that could put me on the radar of the authorities because the truth gets distorted so incredibly easily and shit happens to people who don't deserve it.
The level of greed involved to kill your own friends over a couple thousand dollars because you couldn’t control a dumb spending spree is mind boggling.
I see many of these videos about body language in interviews. Some body language can be an indicator of guilt, but it can also mean nothing. Its perfectly normal to feel insecure and adopt that kind of body language if you're not used to bee interviewed by the police and feel uncomfortable. We have to remember that in the back of any innocent persons mind there is a small thought that says how do I not talk my self into this.
You mean we dont have to watch the ENTIRE interrogation to be entertained!? A MIRACLE! Thank you!
Yes, consoom, let the short-form content rot your mind
@@aidanc9396 Agreed about short form, but 11 minutes isnt considered short form quite yet is it? Im thinking less than 2 minutes.
Just a footnote: educated and intelligence are two totally different categories
Intelligent people are good a critical thinking, can entertain complex conditional hypotheticals, and often get away with stuff like this.
"Educated" just means you can follow instructions, you're half decent at rote memorization, or you're likeable, attractive, good at manipulation, a cheater, etc.
They aren't mutually exclusive, but there is a clear distinction between the concepts. There are high IQ bums, and room temp IQ millionaires. Never assume someone is smart based on a peice of paper.
Ex ducare in Latin means to lead out of..and inter legere means to lay into or to impart.
I suppose you can be educated and still a dumbass and you can be intelligent even without education. It's fortunate when intelligence and education have a meeting in a person's life.
I was educated, but I hardly used any of the knowledge that was imparted into me in school...they are merely snapple facts at this point and little trinkets like Christmas ornaments on my mental tree.
I drive a truck where I have all day to marvel over my mental tinsel and then sometimes I shake my head and some of it falls into someone else's lap 😆
Right cause he was like she's intelligent she has a master / bachelor degree one of the two 😂 I was like ummm. 😳☝️ Baby. Lmao it's not funny but that sent me to the moon 😂 I was like WTF does a degree have to do with anything when you are a sick minded person.
@carolinasweettea3 its has nothing to do with her mind. He just can't believe that she murdered someone and its a sloppy murder because she has a bachelor or master in Criminology (most likely or something related).
Just remember you cant take money with you to the other side only your soul and what you learnt from this life.
It's amazing to me when I hear people say they know "nothing" about their own finances
You can have nothing to hide and still feel uncomfortable and threatened when interviewed on your own in a small room by 3 detectives who could hold your entire future in their hands
I think the guy out of shot was his lawyer.
When they talk about body-language in these videos, this is a great example of a guy who has nothing to hide and simply wants to set the record straight. Sits up straight, even leans into the back of the chair. Very open posture, looking everyone in the eye as he speaks, answering everything directly and quickly.
I can't stand looking into people's eyes after a while is that why folks think I'm untrustworthy even though all I say is the truth?
Honestly, I was less than impressed with their assessment of his body language. They mentioned he was leaning back and also leaning forward...what other postures could he have had?? Standing on his head? LMAOOOO
@@erikbudrow1255Lean to the sides? Move his legs? Nice good head? Nothing entirely different, but there is a ton of variations he might have been going through.
@@McFrax Right, so no matter what other nuances he does with his posture makes no bit of difference lmao ...unless there's some expert out there that can convince me otherwise lol
@@erikbudrow1255 There was another video of a women that was relatively calm until the interview started pointing at her being guilty, at which point she started rocking back and forth, and eventually spinning around, making big circles with her head. I think she stopped that only after it became clear that she's done.
These reactions are not a proof anyway, but they can be a strong hint one way or the other.
Dude seems like such a loyal guy
Shit man if a cop accused me and i was innocent id probably sit back and fold my arms. Just the accusation would make you shrivel.
Imagine someone who you loved. Someone who was kind, caring, and smart. Had told you that they'd be busy, only to find out they had committed a murder that day.
I mean, she was busy lol
Actually, she only checks 1 out of 3 of those boxes.
07:06 "Zach's open body language indicates no signs of guilt."
**WRONG!** His open body language indicates that he *trusts the investigators.*
This is an important distinction, because *distrust* of the investigators could have come from *anything.*
* Who knows that the cops are competent enough to actually figure out your innocence?
* Who knows that they aren't just sloppy, latch onto the first piece of evicence and call it a day?
* Who knows that they have good intentions to begin with?
These are all questions that could pop up in one's head when you are being investigated for bloody *murder,* so conflating *trust* with guilt or innocence is a very dangerous thing.
Yeah, I don't understand why most people don't understand or know that. 😮
THIS! YES!
Body language analysis is quackery
@karlwithak. Wrong - reading body language is a useful tool that can be used as a guide for investigators. It's true that it's not a replacement for evidence, but saying it's meaningless is incorrect.
@@neonjoe529Nah, body language experts have been demonstrated to be unreliable pseudoscience grifters pretty thoroughly at this point.
The issue is that, while body language can be indicative of certain emotional states, it's:
1) Not universally reliable. Different cultural backgrounds, body types, disabilities, neurodivergences, etc can produce a wide range of various body languages for various reasons without true reliable consistency. The neurodivergent aspect in particular is a huge issue with "body language forensics", as anyone even slightly familiar with autism, ADHD, etc will note how the vast majority of what so-called body language experts cite as signs of guilts are literally just common neurodivergent symptoms such as aversion to eye contact and fidgeting.
2) Plagued by bias when used as "evidence." Like what is often considered indicative of guilt is actually just indicative of anxiety, but it's presumed by police that said anxiety itself is an indication of guilt, as opposed to indicative of...y'know, being interrogated by police.
The vast majority of body language expert content -- this video included -- are from a retrospective perspective. It's kinda like a psychic telling you about the world events of yesterday. Once you already know the outcome of a case it's incredibly easy to go back and cherry pick body language claiming that it's clear evidence.
But actual science and controlled studies have shown that the predictions and assertions of body language experts without the benefit of retrospection are less reliable than a random coin flip. It's not a real science, it's pseudoscience sophistry that's nevertheless endorsed by law enforcement as it gives them more excuses and power to accuse and detain people with impunity -- they just have to cite "suspicious body language".
God I can hardly stand to watch this poor guy sit there and talk to these devils with no attorney... that shit is terrifying
Do not EVER agree to talk the police without an attorney present. He sincerely wanted to help them since it was a coworker...... But he knew that even then - you better have an attorney with you.
The cops are looking pretty suspicious, they are leaning back. Better check out their alibis.
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@@abigaildyer04he is making fun of how police can claim any reaction, even lack of reactions has suspicious.
Example - Police can pull you for suspicious driving for driving under, over and the exact speed limit. There are dozens of videos on the internet about it.
Liked for being 10 minutes long instead of 2 hours 👍
Yes this is not EWU.
Yess😅 samee
Every person should read Malcolm Gladwell's book Talking to Strangers. You cannot judge anyone by their body language.
LOL, Don't talk to the police. Your lawyer will do that for you.
I can’t imagine the pain of knowing that the person you love so much is a secret murderer😔😢
I had to find out my former husband was a pedophile...
I had seen some red flag behavior that disturbed me so I left him. His family who is highly religious persecuted me for leaving him. He had everyone including me fooled.
I warned a friend of his who had little girls and he cussed me out.
I left anyways and started my life over.
2 years later inheard he had died from a heart attack so I called his friend and he told me he had a warrant out for his arrest for molesting his 7 year old daughter.
When you know you know...I just have no idea if he's had more victims.
That whole process nearly killed me mentally emotionally and spiritually.
But God is good and I'm glad he's gone and I just have to live with the memory and the ghost of it all. I wish the friend would have believed me and protected his little girl from him, but he has to live with that guilt.
@@aqua6613 Oh my goodness that sounds terrible! 😩 I pray God continues to bless you as you are recovering from that situation internally. It’s sad what our world has come to 😔
Well lucky for him he didn't find out a harder way
Uhuh..WAS a secret murderer
@@aqua6613 If I have a friend and someone told me he is a pedo I would defend that friend but I would not leave him or have him around my kids better safe than sorry.
This vid made me realize how important having an attorney present during any questioning is.
He does have one present
He is a private investigator... So he knows d drill
Did you just realize that you’re dishonest and not capable of lying?
Lesson here is to always get your own lock box
That money wasn't given to Ashley for "safekeeping." It was given to Ashley because Taylor was hiding assets because she was going through a divorce. That doesn't justify what happened to her, but that's what happened.