The Mysterious Jeep Grand Cherokee Front End Noise
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
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This week on JMR Rebuilders, we decide to help out a buddy with his 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. Who can't identify with a repair project when you fix one thing and another part gets broken? This week we work on trying to locate the problem and replacing an upper control arm. Sometimes projects just don't go as planned!
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The problem is that the strut nut that holds the strut mount on was not tightened all the way. This allows the strut rod to move slightly up and down independent from the mount. What you hear is the rod make contact with the mount. Pop the black rubber cover from the top of the strut (by the three bolts) and use an impact to tighten it. You will not be able to tighten it by hand as it will spin.
Heck yeah brother. You nailed it. We end up coming to thst conclusion in the next episode. Thanks for your clarity and for the comment.
What do you do if the nut keeps spinning even with an impact?
@@dylanrhoades3439grab the rod from in the fender well with a pair of vice grips but put an old piece of rubber hose around the strut rod before clamping it with vise grips to avoid damaging it that should keep it from spinning while using the impact on top to tighten the nut
You did WHAT to my Jeep?!
Well we didnt fix it well at least not yet.
Rattle Over Bumps - if you have an older WK2 (mine is a 2015 with 100K) with original break pads, your rattle could be caused by rusted mounting studs on the break pads. They make the little pressure mounting tabs out of cheap metal and they literally rust away with time and then allow the pads to make an annoying rattle over bumps (can occur on rear as well). I live in Cleveland, OH and dump a lot of salt on our roads, so if you go longer than say 5 years, and live in a similar environment you may have the same issue. Simple fix with new pads (although both my rotors and pads had another 10-15K in them). I have NEVER had a set of pads last longer than 35-40K - Jeep did a great job engineering the pads and rotors to match the WK2 (mine is V6)! When I went to replace them, I used paid up to use MOPAR parts hoping to get same results again - don't mess with success!
Thanks great comment
That’s called German torque spec. Gooten Tight!!!
Good stuff. Thank you Brian for your support.
4:08 literally shows a severe crack/tear. wtaf?
Yes we caught that later. Good eyes. Appreciate the support
The sway are bushings go bad and can make noise. Problem is they are attached to the sway are so have to sway bar and comes with the bushings. Check and see if they are cracked. I got a used one from wrecking yard for my GC
Thanks brother we replaced the ends as well. In the second video we reveal what the actual issue was.
Might as well buy another upper control arm for the near future after the torque spec used on that nut! Wowzers! Lol
We appreciate the comment. So far no complaints but we will keep that in mind.
I have a rattling sound. Sounds like it's coming from the passenger side only when I accelerate. Do you know what that can be? 2014 overland GC
Hey thanks for the comment. Unfortunately with out seeing it wouldn't really have a clue. Good luck sorting it out
Bad strut , manufactured wrong , or was used and refurbished poorly would be my guess. I am running into this more frequently, especially on ebay parts , going cheap costs you more in the process.
Yeah that was probably part of the culprit. China parts make things cheap with the allusion of affordability. Thanks for the support and comment. KEEP GETTING AFTER IT
We had a mysterious rattle for a year and a half. Dealers “couldn’t find” the noise. Ours was only going over bumps. Turned out to be the transmission mount.
That's crazy you had it for so long and couldn't get it sorted. Glad it was finally resolved for you. Thank you for dropping that info. Hope it helps someone.
Yeah we stopped doing business with that dealership. We had to pay for the repair but it was less than $200 so it was well worth it to me. The new dealership had it doing repairs the last dealer couldn’t fix in 3 weeks, they fixed everything in 3 days.
@@silver_cd awesome.
So I changed upper and lower control arms, changed coils and struts for OME, everything is new, I still got this noise like if something is loosen or as if some struts where broken, what on earth must I check for?
2014 GC Limited
Have you checked to make sure all bolts sre torqued to spec. These trucks front end really have so many issues. Good luck to you sorry we arent more helpful
What was it?
@@tjtewshews5531 Apparently the radiator bolts were a bit loose.
after driving mine more it sounds like a creaking in the front in when the car shifts its weight, usually slow speeds going up and down uneven surfaces when turning. I thought it was a knock but it sounds like metal creaking. It is a 2017 with 55k miles. Something wearing out already?
Unfortunately not sure what it could be. Sorry can't be much more help.
@@JMRRebuilders thanks , and also, your videos would be more helpful if you show the entire wheel hub before zooming in on the parts. When you start with the zoomed in camera on the parts , I can't tell where they are in relation. I know you have looked at them a million times but for new people its like another world.
That is some good points. We will keep that in mind. Thanks for the feedback
Nice vid. Wish you showed footage of replacing the upper control arm. Did you have to drop the strut?
Hey brother so sorry we didn't record this. This was when we first started the channel and were new at this. We did not have to remove the strut. It is very tight and can be slow going but you can get it. Just take your time and be ok with the very small turns. Will definitely need ratcheting wrenches.
@@JMRRebuilders thanks for the tip!
Omg!!! I’m in this nightmare right now
Check the top nut. In the center of shock tower. Watch episode 2 we show exactly what ours was. If this helps you, please consider subscribing
I get that sound from my jeep cherokee trailhawk
Yeah unfortunately the jeep line during this period made an awful system. They have a ton of issues up front. We changed a ton and finally sorted it out in the next episode. Thanks for the support and comment. Good luck
Having the Same issue on my 2014 GC.
Check all your bolts make sure they are tight. It's a quick and cheap step. One we wish we would have done at the beginning
I have a 2004 that makes a clicking noise on the front driver side only when I hit bumps and stuff but it’s pretty annoying and can’t figure out what’s doing it.
Well there a number of things that could be causing it. On the second episode we finally found it for our truck. But we replaced a ton and checked a ton. It is the top bolt on the shock under shock towers.
@@JMRRebuilders thank you for the information I’ll definitely look into that and see if that could be the problem. If not I’ll keep digging. Great channel by the way!
Awesome good luck. We hope it is. Thank you for the kind comment. If you haven't yet could you please consider subscribing we could really use your help to grow the JMR NATION
@@JMRRebuilders will most definately be subscribing! Can’t thank you guys enough I got the car jacked up today and sure enough it was the strut! I will be sure to continue to check out your videos you guys saved me a huge headache 😂
That's some great stuff brother. Glad it worked and thanks for the sub and support. Welcome to the JMR NATION. KEEP GETTING AFTER IT
Great Vid. Guys! I would have loved to see how you removed the back bushing bolts of the upper control arm. Also, Is it possible to remove the upper control arm bolts on the passenger side without removing the fuse-box?
Thanks for the support and comment. I can tell you that it was such a horrible experience my mind has deleted the specifics soley for survival purposes. I believe we were able to with removing anything extra but man was it difficult.
It is possible. If you lower the bottom fork of the strut, it frees it up just enough to give it some play. Not the easiest method but it works. If you're not in a rush, just move the fuse box. Makes your life easier and your hands will thank you
Good deal thank you for helping.
What brand control arms did you installed? Thanks!
Hi Jose thanks for Subscribing and commenting. The contol arms were purchased by the original owner ahead of time. We would need to ask them and get back to you.
Hey Guys! Great vid! What was he process for pulling out the driver-side upper control arm?
Well we had to jack up the jeep. Once up we remove the bolt for the ball joint and then used a wrench to remove the two bolts on either side of the arm. It then pulled out. It's a rather simple process. The difficulty is there isnt much room to get at the bolt heads. But with patience and taking it slow its possible. Thanks for the question and support.
We have this popping noise in our 2017 Cherokee sport. We cannot find it. Most places want a diagnostic fee for finding it. I’m thinking of just paying them. I’ve narrowed it to the drivers side for the sound. If anyone has an idea let me know. If it helps we turned the wheel far left (from inside) and heard a very loud pop like noise. You hear it when driving straight or turning or bumps. It’s driving my wife nuts.
Jeep is 100% stock. It’s a base model so no need to get all mod happy lol yet 😉
Hey first off sorry for your situation. If it is any consolation ours is still making a noise. Honestly try tightening all of it down. The turn knocking could be your tie rods. That is a common thing when turning one way or the other. Not sure this will help but good luck to ya.
@@JMRRebuilders thanks for the input. I’ll
Give this a shot
My 13 is doing the same just like yours going straight it's crazy I've still not found it!!! If you have please let me know!!??
@@tommyfuller945 ours isn’t doing it anymore. It went away after a while. I can’t say when it did for sure as my wife drives it. I know I did take it in for an alignment at one point. Also we drove it from Oregon to Vegas and back and the issue never came back. Maybe there’s debris somewhere like a small rock that needs to be knocked out.
I have a front end noise when turning and hitting bumps ..it's a 2016 Jeep Cherokee trailhawk.. could the Cherokee have the same issue?
I am not certain. The suspension could be different. What I will say is if you hear clunking noise there is a good chance something is lose. Could be a lose nut or lose ball joint end or stabilizer end. Goof luck finding your noise. Hope this is helpful.
I'm trying to diagnose my wk2 issue...I have a rumbling noise coming from the passenger front when braking...driving me nutts...what did your noise sound like?
Hey thanks for watching and commenting. The noise you describe sounds like your brake pad worn indicator. There is a tap that is designed to tell you it is time to replace when pads get worn. Hope that helps. Our noise was more of a thud.
@@JMRRebuilders I'll take a closer look at the brakes...Thanks!
Air suspension leak?
Thanks for comment. This jeep was not equipped with air.
I recently purchased a 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, it came with a small lift on it & when i pull in or out of my straight/level driveway i hear a pop around the passenger side, & it also happens sometimes when im backing up slowly, its only at slow speeds when pulling in & out? ive only heard it recently after changing brakes, rotors, & front wheel bearings..any ideas before i start the guessing game? It only pops one time when it makes the sound?
Honestly no idea without hearing it and being there. I suggest starting with the easy things. Check alll bolts are tight. Then start assessing all your joints and such. Good luck hope this helps some.
Thank you
@@countrycovers7055 absolutely brother.
ua-cam.com/video/jEFSwvKZhOE/v-deo.html When the large bolt is loose at 3:30 in this video it will cause thumping or creaking. Also if that bracket is bent it will also cause noise. The GC and Durango are on the same chassis.
That is what we finally diagnosed it as im the second video. Thanks for the comment and information
Thanks for you the video! Question, how did you get to the bolts inside the engine? I’m working on getting a drive side upper arm control In (it’s actually already in) but that right side bolt…in the abyss in the back, is impossible to reach. I took off the engine cover, but still…it’s insane.
Did you guys use an extension? Also did you guys drop the struts? Because it’s pretty difficult to tighten the bolts with the strut in the way. Thanks!Love your guys stuff!
Honestly it has been so long ago. I remember it was awful. If i remember correctly i had to walk away and let jason do it. It is possible but it took alot of processing to do it. So sorry we are not much help.
@@JMRRebuilders hahahah! Love the honesty! Just the fact that you were able to do it, gives me hope that it can be done. I’ll keep at it! Thanks for the response!
Yeah it was so horrible my mind blocked it out. KEEP GETTING AFTER IT
I cut the tab off of that bolt and was able to use an impact and just hold a wrench on the nut. Need to replace the bolts too when tackling the upper control arms.Not fun. Hand and 18mm wrench barely fit back there.
Nice vid!!
Thank you for the support brother
what part would you guys recommend for replacement duralast,moog, or mopar for the upper control arm
Really depends on your budget. I perfer Moog but they are getting lower on the quality end. If your ok with their quality. No doubt mopar wil bel the most expensive and OEM. Good luck to ya brother.
How many miles on WK2 when you changed upper control arm?
Not sure. The jeeps already been sold also so can't go and check. Thanks for comment and support
@@JMRRebuilders I have a 2017 WK2 5.7 with 90k miles it’s making clunking noise over bumps in the road. 6 month ago installed rebuilt Air Strut. Thinking that might be the cause. Idea?
I’m having a similar problem with my
Jeep. It makes this awful noise when the front wheels extend downward like on the front side of a speed bump. And the noise seems louder when the temperature outside is below 40 degrees. I’m thinking it’s the struts? Any insight? Thank you!
Yeah I would check all your bolts for sure. Good chance your struts needs replaced. Good luck.
JMR Rebuilders how can I send you a video for you to watch?
You can feel free to email it to us at jmrrebuilders@gmail.com. we will take a look but nothing is like having it in front of you and being able to eliminate things.
These Jeeps have so many different noises, there is a popping noise from the cradle strength support bracket left of right. I’ve also seen rocks between the ft cradle and body make the same noise. The front sway bar links, bouncing the vehicle up and down might help with a stethoscope. Front end squeaks are most likely from sway bar bushings and or upper control arms and rear ft cradle bushings.
Sub frame bushing, also could have a broken motor mount putting weight on that side of the strut
Sub frame could be bent , or sub fram bushing could be bad
Maybe. Our issue was that someone before us forgot to properly tighten the top nut on the strut. Thanks for the comment!
Dang man...why didn't you show how you did it....🙄
This was one of our first videos where we didn't know what we were doing (in the filming world that is). Thanks for the comment and support.
@@JMRRebuilders it's cool but dang that's what I need right now lol
@@aronjohn84 If i remember correctly, there is a cover on the top of the strut. we removed that and tightened the top nut on the strut
Hey brother this episode we didn't solve it. However we did in the second episode of this series. Jason is right it was a nut on the too of the strut tower. There is a black rubber cap pop it off and tighten. Good luck to ya brother
I feel like you guys skipped a whole lot of what you were doing there. I learned nothing. Waste of your time and mine.
Well your not far off. We didn't resolve it on this episode but we did in the next one. So if you have more time to waste please feel free to watch the second episode. I think its a bit of a stretch to tell us what is a waste of our time. But either way I'm sure you wasted a significant amount of your life doing far worse so on that note. Here is the link to episode 2 ua-cam.com/video/I4xtUzAn4iE/v-deo.html
Keep getting after it.
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Well no clue what it is. If you want to see what else we have no clue about check out the link ua-cam.com/video/97op_V9DxFs/v-deo.html