Absolutely. As a rule I do this on my prep center for new-to-me brass. With the 45 series I’m doing now, I did not since most folks don’t, and I wanted to keep that series as relevant as possible to common practice. But as you so well demonstrate, chamfering only takes a second and is time well spent! Well done. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
I trim & deburr rifle & pistol both but I only shoot my pistols twice a year if I'm lucky and I have so much brass that I'll be "Pushin' up daisies" before I get to load a case 3 times. Looking after details is always good. Have a great day Tinman!
Good one TinMan, a couple years ago, I sent a newly purchased Redding die set back to Redding when I was getting lead shaving. They had me send fired cases and some bullets. Fixed it 95% of the time but I still occasionally get some shaving with a couple of bullets. I think I going to start doing this with my brass next prep and see if I can eliminate shaving 100%
Okay,, (I'm not telling anyone what to do, and this is about what I do about that) I flare the necks so that the bullet has enough freedom to set down in the case about 1/4 of the way. this stops the burr from contacting if there is any burr. I also crimp as a separate step in the load process, that way the bullet isn't being pushed down and into the case at the same time that the mouth of the case is being closed up to crimp the bullet. (I found that deburring pistol cases with a chamfer tool leads to short case life because splits in the case develops because of thinning the edge of the top of the case) Again, if it works for you, great, however, this is what I found that happens. Peace out - Dave
Same way I do all my cast bullet pistol loads, I've always used Lyman solid or NOE powder through two-step expanders, lead scraping has never been and issue using those expanders. I just picked up the new Lee two-step expanders, one being 45 ACP, I polished the Lee expander with a superfine 3M sponge, if the 45 give me problem with lead shaving which I don't think it will, I'll just go back to my NOE powder through two-step expanders that I've loaded a few thousand rds. of cast lead 45 ammo with no issues.
@@reloader7sixtwo A small step as Tinman is showing isn't dangerous, however, in my experience it shortened case life. (It just my advice, take it or leave it) Unlike what I saw on a chat the other night, a dude is entertaining using neck sized only .308 brass in his M-1A, only using a case gauge to check for fit, (I have seen this before with service rifle shooters) squeezing almost all the chamber tolerances to nil.. (A service rifle is NOT a bench rest bolt action rifle) Those rifles are NOT engineered for such a tight fit because the way the rifle operates and all it takes is failure to have the round go all the way into battery because of out of roundness or load or extraction debris and a out of battery discharge can happen, the result is a trip to the emergency room and a ruined gun (Your eye's are right behind the operation of the bolt) also the risk of injuring someone who was a bystander by the chunks of bolt flying, that itself is negligent of your fellow mans safety or his little girl who was out at the range having a good time with her parent.
@@thorsaxe5881 Wasn't disagreeing with Tinmans suggestion, as in all things it will be useful to some who have the lead shaving problem, just not something I have experienced. Another odd thing I ran across this weekend on another forum was a gun that anneals his straight wall pistol brass, that's a new one on me.
@@reloader7sixtwo I wasn't disagreeing with Tinman ether, just that I did the same years ago and shot case life was the result. flaring the case a little more stops the scraping problem for me and there was less handling of the brass. However, there are some guys on UA-cam accomplishing absolutely ZERO with all the crazy steps they take that does nothing for accuracy or improve function. Just a huge waste of time and money.
I do not load 45 - but 9mm 38/357 380 - Any range brass is trimmed and deburred. Any of my used bras always gets the inside rim chamfered after I resize them. I resize all my brass before reloading, then deburr them, then wash them. Mostly it is my 9mm that shaves lead. But since I do not cast in lead anymore (Zinc) that issue does not happen.
I've been puting my counter sunk in the drill motor for a good while and do the inside of my case mouth on a run of loading cast 🤷 back then I had a "duh" moment and thought when did I miss the boat figured every one already did this 🤪
“Watch what happens and listen” kids screaming . 🤭 I throw on trays so no mashing with the heavy Lee spring and the Dillon takes less pressure for going fast but it’s good to prep for anything for lead & brass thickness varies with old military 45 being 💪🏻
The one commenter above says it's caused by stainless pins peening the mouth during wet tumbling so then you'd have to chamfer every time you clean the cases. IDK b/c I don't wet tumble with pins. 🤷♂️
Hi tinman great tip thanks for sharing
Thanks
Good stuff. I wonder if you put a small radius on the expander if that would help?
Absolutely. As a rule I do this on my prep center for new-to-me brass. With the 45 series I’m doing now, I did not since most folks don’t, and I wanted to keep that series as relevant as possible to common practice. But as you so well demonstrate, chamfering only takes a second and is time well spent! Well done. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
Firsties!!❤
Hahaha. I like a M-Die. Also simply chamfer goes a long way too! ❤❤
I trim & deburr rifle & pistol both but I only shoot my pistols twice a year if I'm lucky and I have so much brass that I'll be "Pushin' up daisies" before I get to load a case 3 times. Looking after details is always good. Have a great day Tinman!
Good one TinMan, a couple years ago, I sent a newly purchased Redding die set back to Redding when I was getting lead shaving. They had me send fired cases and some bullets. Fixed it 95% of the time but I still occasionally get some shaving with a couple of bullets. I think I going to start doing this with my brass next prep and see if I can eliminate shaving 100%
Good stuff, TinMan! 💪🏼🦅🇺🇸
Good video TinMan real concise to the point. This video is gold for new reloaders.
Good eye, oh Man of Tin!! Most excellent!! My 9mm was doing that yesterday sometimes. I need to take a closer look!
Good stuff, Tin Man!
Okay,, (I'm not telling anyone what to do, and this is about what I do about that) I flare the necks so that the bullet has enough freedom to set down in the case about 1/4 of the way. this stops the burr from contacting if there is any burr. I also crimp as a separate step in the load process, that way the bullet isn't being pushed down and into the case at the same time that the mouth of the case is being closed up to crimp the bullet. (I found that deburring pistol cases with a chamfer tool leads to short case life because splits in the case develops because of thinning the edge of the top of the case) Again, if it works for you, great, however, this is what I found that happens. Peace out - Dave
Yep @thorsaxe
Same way I do all my cast bullet pistol loads, I've always used Lyman solid or NOE powder through two-step expanders, lead scraping has never been and issue using those expanders. I just picked up the new Lee two-step expanders, one being 45 ACP, I polished the Lee expander with a superfine 3M sponge, if the 45 give me problem with lead shaving which I don't think it will, I'll just go back to my NOE powder through two-step expanders that I've loaded a few thousand rds. of cast lead 45 ammo with no issues.
@@reloader7sixtwo A small step as Tinman is showing isn't dangerous, however, in my experience it shortened case life. (It just my advice, take it or leave it) Unlike what I saw on a chat the other night, a dude is entertaining using neck sized only .308 brass in his M-1A, only using a case gauge to check for fit, (I have seen this before with service rifle shooters) squeezing almost all the chamber tolerances to nil.. (A service rifle is NOT a bench rest bolt action rifle) Those rifles are NOT engineered for such a tight fit because the way the rifle operates and all it takes is failure to have the round go all the way into battery because of out of roundness or load or extraction debris and a out of battery discharge can happen, the result is a trip to the emergency room and a ruined gun (Your eye's are right behind the operation of the bolt) also the risk of injuring someone who was a bystander by the chunks of bolt flying, that itself is negligent of your fellow mans safety or his little girl who was out at the range having a good time with her parent.
@@thorsaxe5881 Wasn't disagreeing with Tinmans suggestion, as in all things it will be useful to some who have the lead shaving problem, just not something I have experienced. Another odd thing I ran across this weekend on another forum was a gun that anneals his straight wall pistol brass, that's a new one on me.
@@reloader7sixtwo I wasn't disagreeing with Tinman ether, just that I did the same years ago and shot case life was the result. flaring the case a little more stops the scraping problem for me and there was less handling of the brass. However, there are some guys on UA-cam accomplishing absolutely ZERO with all the crazy steps they take that does nothing for accuracy or improve function. Just a huge waste of time and money.
I do not load 45 - but 9mm 38/357 380 - Any range brass is trimmed and deburred. Any of my used bras always gets the inside rim chamfered after I resize them. I resize all my brass before reloading, then deburr them, then wash them. Mostly it is my 9mm that shaves lead. But since I do not cast in lead anymore (Zinc) that issue does not happen.
thanks tinman, I bought a z8 g4, vid this weekend
Good reminder
the main reason that you get that burr is from wet tumbling with pins. The pins peen the mouth over. And it is not only 45acp brass that does it
I use the vld chamfer tool from Lyman on every single piece.
I've been puting my counter sunk in the drill motor for a good while and do the inside of my case mouth on a run of loading cast 🤷 back then I had a "duh" moment and thought when did I miss the boat figured every one already did this 🤪
“Watch what happens and listen” kids screaming . 🤭 I throw on trays so no mashing with the heavy Lee spring and the Dillon takes less pressure for going fast but it’s good to prep for anything for lead & brass thickness varies with old military 45 being 💪🏻
Still no check weight vid coop boy! 😳🐔🐣🐥
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Good info... but what happens the 2nd or 3rd time you reload the case? Will you have to chamfer the inside again or is it a one time done thing?
The one commenter above says it's caused by stainless pins peening the mouth during wet tumbling so then you'd have to chamfer every time you clean the cases. IDK b/c I don't wet tumble with pins. 🤷♂️
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