TTC Metrolinx Sheppard Line 4 Subway Extension - What are the pros and cons for Toronto residents
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2024
- TTC Metrolinx Sheppard Line 4 Subway Extension - What are the pros and cons for Toronto residents?
Sheppard Subway Line Extension Options:
Option 1: Sheppard West Subway Station
Option 2: Scarborough Town Centre
Option 3: Extension along Sheppard Ave. East to Meadowvale
I hope it gets extended east to Kennedy and west to Dufferin
1:56 I can't see anyone who seriously believes that the west extension isn't needed. In fact, I argue this is one of the lowest-hanging fruits that metrolinx can build today. Apart from your points, Line 4 trains can also connect to the existing Wilson yard, so they don't have to travel far distances if they have something wrong. Likewise, Line 1 trains mostly stored at Wilson can have a shortcut to the busier Yonge line, meaning more trains can be deployed faster. Can you link some sources on opponents to the west extension (if possible)? Thank you & good vid!
That part of Sheppard is pretty low density with lots of empty parks. The traffic isn’t too bad, and buses already provide decent service to the area, and you only have to ride the bus for a short while before you get to a subway station. Meanwhile, on the eastern extension, there are already huge condo towers with thousands of people waiting for better transit. The existing bus service always gets jammed up at the 404 crossing. And the area doesn’t have any nearby subway service, so there’s a huge catchment area of people who might ride down to Sheppard to catch the subway.
@@my2iu transfering onto a bus only to ride it a couple of km actually adds a lot of time to your commute. Even if buses do come every few minutes (tbf the 84 bus already does), that still means getting up from you seat, and running upstairs for a service that runs in a straight line, something an subway extension can easily carry.
Also adding an eastern extension adds more riders, that still ends up funnelling them into the already congested Sheppard-Yonge interchange. That means more congestion on the Yonge-side Line 1, and congestion on the 84 bus.
@@my2iuit’s low density because IT LACKS the subway. Look at Eglinton and its transformation. Wherever you build the subway, that area becomes dense naturally. Don Mills is another example….Sheppard line should absolutely be extended west as well. I’m tired of Toronto behaving like its a small mid-tier city still. It just surpassed Chicago a few years ago and politicians still think it’s the Toronto from 1935.
Development in the city should reflect its size….they like to cater to the yuppies downtown, while the vast majority of Toronto residents in the boughs are ignored.
Enough.
@@verynonexistent I’m not saying the bus is perfect, but that it works fine. And many people who need to do that trip will already be on a bus anyway, so transferring to another bus is no big deal. Unless you specifically need to go to York University or Yorkdale, then just connecting to the other end of Line 1 isn’t that useful. You’ll probably want to continue riding the bus further on. For example, if I lived at Finch and Yonge, and I wanted to go to York University, I’d probably take the bus down Finch. It doesn’t really make sense for me to go down to Sheppard, cross over to Sheppard West, and then travel back up. The same goes for people living at, say, Lawrence-Yonge and who want to go to York University.
@@TMBpk Scarborough has no subway, and they’ve built tons of high density housing, and they’re building more. The area of Sheppard for the west extension is low density because the residents there want to have low density (or maybe there’s an issue with the airport). I know that residents are unhappy with medium sized condo towers on Sheppard only a block or two west of Yonge. Unless you want the province to ram down giant condo towers down the throats of the residents along the west extension, then it’s just not as promising as the east extension or a Finch extension.
It’s reached a point where they can extend the subway to any part of the city, and the entire route will naturally become dense. That’s how starved the city is for public transport and specifically subways. People are complaining about lack of density along parts of Sheppard? Announce the extension and you’ll see two dozen new condo developments along Sheppard.
McCowan/Sheppard station on Line 2 isn’t even fully constructed yet and there’s already like 7 proposed buildings to be built.
Toronto needs to start acting like a proper city. It amalgamated in 1998, but city hall still likes to pretend Toronto is only the old city. It can’t keep ignoring the boroughs and think the city will be able to move forward.
The western extension to Sheppard West station infinitely makes Line 4 more useful. Yes, it's low density, but we created a mess by creating a stubway in a low-density area of Toronto. The western connection makes it easier for Line 1 and 4 trains to get to Wilson. It also makes it infinitely easier for students to get from Scarborough to York U. And it opens up the possiblilty of interlining Lines 1 and 4. Let's make the line useful!
they real only need the Bathurst station ..for the west end.. consumers..vp..warden.. ken/go mc cowan ..
It would be great if they put turn on/off onto the Sheppard line so trains could be run on both lines or used to balance traffic in the event of an emergency. The turn on would need to go both north and south onto the Scarborough subway to be effective.
People have been asking for this since the early 2000's. These planners only cater to the high income areas, not where the people traveling live
@@kodguerrero Maybe when you get a subway, all the rich people move there and push out the poor people? So if you want affordable housing, you simply have to be willing to live in an area with worse transportation options because that will make it cheaper?
@@my2iu But that increases the transportation cost and time for those people, who already struggle to get to and from work.
More public transit is always better and takes cars off the road which we all desperately need
High income earners drive. They are NIMBY,S and do not like construction getting dust on their BMW'S
I know the one to Morningside May take the longest, and it may be the most expensive, but that’s better for Scarborough, I don’t live in Scarborough but I do go on a car ride in Scarborough every once in a while, especially on Sheppard. And while driving along Sheppard I can just see in my mind a Subway entrance at almost every major street all the way to Morningside.
Shut down the subway and make it an LRT that connects to the Finch West LRT, then east to Meadowvale