Germany's Health Care: Quality Care for All
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- With Congress back in session, debate over reforming the American health care system is once again in full swing. Supporters of universal health care want the U.S. system to be more like those in Europe, with the government taking an active role to guarantee coverage for everyone. Those who oppose drastic changes in the U.S. system say greater government involvement and universal coverage guarantees will push the U.S. toward socialism. Germans have the oldest universal health care system in Europe - its origins go back more than a century - and they are generally pleased with the care they receive. Is there a lesson there for America? VOA's Sonja Pace reports from the German capital, Berlin.
Gott sei Dank, haben wir hier in Deutschland Krankenversicherungen! So wird Gesundheit nicht zu einem teuerem Thema!
It's not just in Germany. It is actually in every European country. The only difference it the level of medical care standards. And it's actually also the case in every western nation except of USA. Still can't understand how is this possible in the "richest country of the world"
Robert Scovill richest country... i'm sure america is not rich.. I guess they have more owe than real money.. but God bless america you can simply copy some new..
About ten years ago I had to go to an ear-specialist in Germany - I just looked up the number and scheduled an appointment for next day, and that was it. My student-health insurance picked up all the costs (the health-insurance cost about $75 a year). Imagine.
Sorry you are a student you pay a fixed amount by law. If you were a student and older than 27 you would pay 150€ as long as you earn less than 800€ a month. After you graduate and have a fulltime job, you will experience that you will have to pay around 15% of your gross income for it (ok 7.5 you 7.5 the employer)
+Bontasan Bontasan
As an Employee, you pay 7,5% + 0,9%, 7,5% pay the employer.
an while we have to pay a lot of money per month for insurance, some americans have to sell everything they own because they cant afford the medical treatment
I remember reading some story years ago about an older woman having to sell her home to pay for her chemo treatments because her insurance company wouldn't pay for it saying how it "experimental" or "cosmetic" something like that. For her it was either sell her home or go home and die...that what her doctor was pretty much telling her. Well one of her daughters took her so she wouldn't be homeless.
My thing is this...why should any American have to make that decision?
Nickolas RW because people in the u.s. only want money.
why should they care about others when they can earn more by fucking them up?
Sebastian Schulze
That's a good point. USA is too profit driven.
Nickolas RW
the sad thing is that i see no way to change that without reconstructing the entire country starting from its foundation.
and i know that will never happen.
Sebastian Schulze
It doesn't help that some people with health insurance still can't afford to visit the ER or doctor due to increase of co-pays. But, but, but yet we got money for wars!
One reason America probably wont have national health care if because how un healthy the population from obesity.For the record Im born and raised in USA and medical experts say that the levels of type 2 diabetes will be high,especially in just 20 years that there is no way to finance it.
Yes it does. We've had "socialized medicine" in my country for decades, and it works very well. Much better than the American system does.
I'm an Aussie and our health system is very similar to that of the Germans. If you have private health insurance in Australia you get preferential treatment when it comes to going to hospitals and having surgery but if you're just going to see a doctor anyone can just rock up to a bulk billing doctor and they'll get looked at as long as they have a medicare card.
Once you leave the public insurance for private insurance you can not easily switch back to the public insurance again (general laws in effect there).
The laws do not really 'forbid' the switching but they check that you can actually afford the higher prices for the private insurances for a certain time in the future. That's why a certain income is usually neccessary to switch. But this is only a generalisation; to go into any depth here would take too much time.
They forgot one important point in this video: In Germany your can add a private one to your public insurance too. It's not as expensive as a regular private insurance and covers nearly all the benefits a private one does. And - as like in Austria - you're still part of the public if you can't pay for the additional private insurance.
I am on welfare (United States) and I receive free health insurance through the Medicaid program. I had to pick an HMO to go along with the Medicaid. Medicaid will not pay for a root canal, instead they pay for extracting. Even if the dentist feels that the tooth is still viable, and unless there is a health risk to extraction, Medicaid will not pay.
just to give you an example of the difference of a private insurance: if youre insured privatly you qualify for having your own room in the hospital when being in treatment. otherwise you may have to share a room with someone. also normal insurences may not pay for treatments that seem unnecessary to them. e.g. removing of moles.
Obama care really benefits the insurance industry.
@sofinesse Great response! So many arrogant Americans continue to defend a broken excessively expensive health care system that, even today, fails to provide basic health care through insurance to over 40 million Americans. And many American insurance companies only pay part of the cost of a routine checkup, leaving the consumer with a bill for over $100 for less than fifteen minutes with a doctor. Also prescriptions.. many insurers don't cover drugs! Crazy!
Yeah, you have to pay part of your income, that's the system. BUT if you're unemployed or a child or a pensioner you still get treatment. And that's the system of a functioning society. Caring for each other.
Its a lose-lose here in USA, our government and companies are very greedy.
Costa Rica:a country in the middle of poor Central America does that too and that keeps a balance in the country it just needs politicians to do it everywhere!
My father was not privately insured,he couldnt afford anything else except the state insurance.The German state has been privatizing and cutting costs since the economic crisis 2008 and now even more with the neoliberal/capitalist Eurocrisis.My father went to the doctor more than a year ago and he said he is fine.My mother recently talked to the doctor because he lives near us, and he apologized that he didn't see the tumor.He said that he has no time, can barely find sleep and too many patients
Thank you for your information! I am always interested in that.
I read into it, food cost is 9% of the salary in the US and 13% here.
The food is cheaper here, but it is compensated by high salary in US.
So living is here much more expensive.
For electricity: that was per person. 1500kwh for a single here vs 3000 in the US. But if it would cost only 1/3, I would probably use more of it too.. Besides that, here virtually no one uses air conditioning or electric heating. That might be a factor.
3:56 that describes how Americas healthcare system is
You are absolutely right, I don't know much at all about Germany's health care program, however it seems to be a common implication that it is run by the government. Thanks so much for the clarification, and I'm glad the system has been working well for so long... may it continue. But, there is still a layer of reliance on the government to maintain the system & my point is that even governments can fail or have a negative affect on such a system, as is evidenced in the claim by nonprofitmax..
The rise of the petrol price has nothing to do with taxes??? Are you kidding? 80% of it is taxes, pension tax (called ecological tax), value added tax, energy tax + mineral oil tax.
One product includes 4 taxes. We don't rise taxes, we just add some new ones.
@SoziLiberAL I've been to Europe dozens of times - Germany, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Italy, France, UK, Switzerland, Greece. I love them all, for different reasons. But just to open a GmbH cost me 50,000 Euro, and ridiculous employment contracts. I closed it. That's why the world entrepreneurs come to the US, and why, in the long run, the US economy will lead the world to recovery: No German kids like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg or Michael Dell. ZERO.
The British system is the best. Under the British system there is no insurance. The whole thing is covered by taxes and ALL hospitals and clinics are run by the government. So whenever you get ill you just go to a hospital or doctor and get help and you get no bill.
I am glad to live in Norway when it comes to healthcare its cheap and almost free for everybody, we are also the best country to live judging by the UK analyst
Despite the problems they mentioned near the end of the presentation that's still a heck of a lot better than in the U.S.
yes but the cost of living is so high in norway so you would have to of course get paid much more
We go to Europe for all treatments other than regular checks. European medical care, expertise and equipment is way better quality than here in US.
To make the real change in US we have to eliminate insurance companies altogether.
@1991maulwurf I understand - he means "no extra out of pocket" expense. And as for petrol, I paid less than 0.9 Euro a liter, about half the cost in Germany. I drive an Acura TSX, which is the same as the Honda Accord in Germany - 4 cylinder, 2.6 liter displacement. I smile as I see the guys with big SUVs paying USD 100 or more to fill their tanks. THERE we can learn from Germany!
No, and we don't have to. I had a hernia job last year and had to wait a week or two, because it was no emergency. If I had been brought to hospital with, say, an incarcerated hernia it would have been operated on the spot.
Why don't American TV "NEWS" networks report on health care in other nations honestly, as this report does? Just asking!
ok, i personally know a nurse working in Germany, and with the two tier system, the extra services and better rooms go to people with private insurance usually at top floors.
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But that doesn't mean you'll get left in the dust if you've got public insurance ! You're still covered and you have some of the best health service in the world !
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A friend said how preferential treatment is "immoral", i say 'bullshit', no one's gonna leave you to die or go untreated. health service needs funding.
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We are. Doing fine thanks.
Yes, my good Sir, this would be true. Part of his thought was weakening the socialists. But after the installement there were countless times were the socialist were completely powerless and our system wasn't abolished, because everyone enjoyed the benefits of it.
Even so, in Germany does Doctor responde to critical call outs in the ambulance service.
well, it's not a problem of the federal healthcare system but of the public retirement funding system: A person working in Germany earning more than 400€ has to pay 20% of his wage only for retirement funding (of the actual retirement recievers, not for their own). But the average age in Germany becomes older and older every year so we have less funders and more recievers. That's also why the retirement age was increased from 65 to 67 a couple of years ago
well things have changed from what my german friends have told me ! things are getting worse and old folks are getting screwed by the system !
Our public health care unfortunately gets worse but more expensive year by year, while the phamaceutical industry gets richer. Only people with very high income or self employers may chose a private insurance. The rest is forced to support a corrupt and rotten system.
If the doctor didn't give him a referral that made clear it is an urgent case then the doctor made the mistake. No one I know as well as myself ever had to wait in an emergency, not even when it was none and I was just worried.
I live in Norway and we only pay about 380 dollar a year and we are covered for almost everything, includes, psychiatric and surgeries are all free of charge.
Only thing cost are some medicine, but they are very cheap only 5 to 15 dollars
But it's not free at all - Germans HAVE TO pay 15% of their income for.
Only self employed and employees with a very high income may choose a privat insurance wich might be even cheaper and/or better.
@TheChristianRight09: The question is-to what, exactly?
Thats very strange Norway is a very clean country and its very rare to get sick my food, but then again sometimes things happen.
You can see the Castle of Norway in Oslo the King and his family still lives there and they are open for tourism.
I'd pay 15% no problem.
@MelSnyder where did you get that nonsense from? I opened my company with barely a euro in my pocket and now I have 53 employees. And what you call ridiculous is what I call a fair system!
Here's proof that not all country's outside of America have a Single Payer Health Care system with just Public Health Insurance. America is not the only Industrialized Country with private Health Insurance and Health Care.
@TheChristianRight09: Your name is telling all we need. Nuff said.
I've been to Europe many times,everything cost more... Electricity for example is 3 time higher in Germany than the US....
...In Greece now 50 out of 134 Hospitals are being closed because of the austerity measures to feed the debt made by corrupt capitalist politicians to banks, military industrial capitalists, corporate cronies. Working People are not only being robbed by the capitalists, but beaten bny their police, fired andsent to starve in the steet. The situation in all countries the same, private wealth in the last four years has grown 1 Trillion Euros in Europe while the median income has shrunk over 8%.
it has been working for 140 years, i would say it works.
The british or danish system is also a good alternative and working quite good. Everything is financed by the incometax there and organised by the goverment.
remember the Farewell Speech of Dwight D Eisenhower.
The Military Insustrial Complex
Norway is flush with money from oil and gas exports, and the state can afford to pay everything above the 380 dollars.
So in other countries health care has got to be more expensive, like it or not.
Well I have plenty of experience with both systems, I believe the American system has better quality care. My wife is German, I have taken her to the hospital on different occasions, at the Notaufnahme (Emergency Room) I couldn't even get someone to speak to me on my arrival and had to search the hospital for help. In a different hospital we were turned away and told to go somewhere else when my wife was unable to walk because of pain. Neither system is perfect.
@Messier83 and the US aren't bankrupt? Yopu are nearly as high in depts (in percentage) as Greece and you made it without governmental health care...
i was born in germany and am dual and wish they had the insurance here like in germany. i had a 30ft drop onto concrete on may 12 1990 and almost died mom only had to pay 20.00 for the ambulance and 20.00 for the helicopter everything else by insurance if i was in the usa at the time i would have died due to insurance not paying or not getting a prior approval.
in Germany if you use less electricity at the end of the year you actually get money back from the electric company last year we used not so much so we got about 400U.S. dollars back.Socialism is an Economic system that is maintained by the people for the people nothing more nothing less.I have had expensive care and surgery and my insurance paid everything theres good and bad in both countries but now that east and west germany are united and no borders its gotten worse
Thats true I forgot to say that we are also the most expensive country in the world, shocking the tourist! If you planning to visit Norway make sure to bring enough money.
1 Big Mac burger cost 7 dollar!
Jann Lee this isn't norway though , it's germany. Food is pretty cheap here.
so which did you go to get yours, russia or poland?
so would you suggest single payer?
i am in the usa since 1991 and see there is no justice...only for criminals...anyhow wish the medical system would be in the usa like it is in canada and europe alot better...
@1991maulwurf America isn't Germany. Your labor-management relations enable vastly greater decision-making on benefits and pensions, and both politicians and investors support them. Note how the young father believes his care is "free" because its cost is buried in their tax code. Brits also think theirs is "free." We pay less than 1 Euro per liter for our petrol in America, and Americans are furious that it might rise to 1.2 Euros. You pay for your healthcare every time you buy petrol!
I am from Germany and my Father is dying of liver cancer and since he has NO PRIVATE Insurance, he is in the lower class of patients and won't get a liver transplant (although he is relatively young and otherwise physically strong). His doctor is not even available at the time now.
This is Propaganda, CAPITALISM KILLS.
@maxiyacht Check the facts today. The NHS is facing massive cuts as part of the coalition government's austerity program. "Free" medical care doesn't exist - it must be tax supported. The austerity program there has made a bad unemployment problem worse, which cuts taxes and increases welfare payments - just when they, like America, face a major retirement wave from their baby-boomers. As if that wasn't bad enough, UK exporters face an EU in deep recession. Don't envy them. They're no model.
LOL
At 2:13 you can see the name Dr. Zuschneid. That would be translated to English something like "Dr. Cut-it-in-shape". Maybe he's a plastic surgeon or smth ^^
+Fritado Sebbl lmao
i will make a trip one day to Norway majestic place
Yes,its,all,super there in germany. and they all pay through the nose in taxes to pay for it..
In Belgium we don´t have private insurances. All people get the same treatment. and that is good in my opinion.
Germany is on a bad way with the two way system (state and private insurances).
Yeah, electricity is insanely taxed, 72% of the price will be taxes in january (most going to green projects oO). We only need half the electricity an average American needs, but it still is expensive.
I don't know about price differences within the USA , but when I visited a Friend in Boston, fresh food (Vegetables, Cheese etc) was almost twice as much as it is here.(Which is already an expensive City). Gas is very expensive here too. Good thing the country is so small. ^^
19th century actually by Bismarck
@TheChristianRight09: That’s profound.
Nice Video
We have always had great health care,for my 7 sons,wife and myself....What the video does not tell you the VAT tax in Germany,runs the cost of products as much as 3 to 5 times more than in the USA..??Think about it??...The cost of living in Germany is through roof....I work with high income Germans that work at Rifenhuaser ,they refer to the German government as the Mafia...And spend as much time in the states as possible...
I live in germany and I just can confirm you that you dont have to pay money for doctor. only hospital is A BIT expensive. the 10 Euro per quartal arent there anymore since summer 2012 btw. ;) Germany is best country. Doesn't jealousy hurt?
Jealous??? Lol, don't make me laugh! while I was in Germany (for many years) I had the unfortunate luck of having to use your healthcare for a leg injury. If you don't have private insurance you will get the inferior physicians and care. I was placed in a room so horrible the nurses called it the 'dungeon ward'. How cute! Oh yeah, SOOOO jealous...
it could be a little bit better Françe has worldwide the best Healthcare coverage and it's cost still around 10% of the GDP. But our Government cut spendings to reach the black zero.
Well we dont have the highest tax, because we have the highest wages in the world.
I am student and work at Mcdonalds in Norway and I make 25 dollars an hour.
In USA you only make 10 dollar for the same work.
Hour wages are very high and per capita highest in the world too, and every end of the year if we paid too much tax we always get them back from the government and a little extra too
Health insurance for all Americans is unconstitutional, it is indeed to laugh, Even my late grandfather in the Little Switzerland had a compulsory health insurance.
Then the doctor who treated you made a mistake. This has nothing to do with the system. I never had to wait when I was worried about something and that were never even emergencies, more like freaking about about stuff that turned out to be 100% fine.
5 times more than in the US? You want to tell us that a plasma-tv in the US costs under 100$ for 42 inches?
But you are right. It is better in the US than in Germany, because it is soooo socialistic in Germany... And these poor rich guys must pay for the less fortunate. Ok, their own children profit from the same benefits, but hey, we do not need to tell THAT... Especially not if these richies are not rich enough to survive a drop to the poor part. Which during the crisis happens, you know?
everyone shoud have a good healthcare and i mean every people on the planet
i woud say that is a human right
the German healthcare system is very good but it is a insurance based system when I used to live there I think it was around 60 euros per month and if you ever went into hospital the wards were quiet and half empty unlike here in the U.K where you will be lucky to get a bed although the nhs is the biggest employer in Europe the service is crap if the U.S adopts a British type system healthcare will go down more managers than beds is what we have in the U.K
It is the same in the UK. Breast surgery is not free. Many chavy Brits go to Russia or Poland for cheap breast implants.
The bad thing about this is that PRIVATE INSURANCE does still exist!
Good you should see Oslo!
Americans have bigger family's for one, that's why we use more electricity .. The Europeans still pay more for less use.....Food in the USA is cheapest as a % of income in the developed world..America is the bread basket of the world...
VAT is with 19% (7% for stuff like food) not exactly low, but not the highest known.
Some things are more expensive than in the US, but some are cheaper also.
"Real" food (stuff bought in supermarkets/grocery stores) might be twice as expensive over in the US, for example.
Energy is heavily taxed (for political reasons) over here on the other hand.
High incomers tend to be a little whiny. :-) But yeah, all things have two sides, not only one good or one bad.
Enercon are going to imploy 3000+ peapel this year
but right now there is a change... most hospitals will become part of big concerns in the near future and they want to make profit for sure... look for rhoen-kliniken or asklepios or agaplesion and so on
that disparity is also growing in the U.S... govt systems that depend on public contributions are always vulnerable, capitalism has nothing to do with it, it's greed & taking advantage.. govt sanctioned health care systems are a really nice idea, but people need to think more self reliant thoughts... no system of government or aid group is a guarantee & everything can change in a New York minute... although, i don't really know what your comment has to do with my comment, but whatevs
@lleuwelynn You may be quite correct. I really find that BBC world news is about as good as I can find in the USA, and that is only available on cable service for some areas, not all. Canada, our nearest advanced industrialized western nation has a good, but not perfect, health care system, but no American news media goes there to do an in-depth report either. Americans need to learn but their news media is closed-minded and superficial, spending more time on a Prince's wedding plans!
USA healthcare is for profit, it is part of the free market, in Europe it is not for profit. That is the difference.
german health care system is good. even if you are the the member of govt. insurance company, not private, you still get good services. in usa you would still going broke without having one.
@Roland1405 Name one German company started in a German dorm room or garage since 1970 with a few hundred Deutchmarks/Euros that ended up creating employment for 20,000 employees (Google) or 60,000 employees (Apple in USA) or 43,000 app creators selling through iTunes or 60,000 (Cisco) or...you get the point. Sure you have bright kids. Everybody does. The difference is, our kids start industries that change the world, often with money from German investors. It's not "popularity" - productivity!
@SoziLiberAL Been there,the majority Europeans are lower middle class...What I find ironic its not free,the EUROPEANS pay 40% to 60% income tax's.......
Successful Germans leave GERMAN ,so they can benefit from their income more than the government as well as the less successful German....
@albedoshader I know...
@TheChristianRight09: There’s neither structure nor grammar in your comment. I can’t give any answer to it because it is unintelligible, sorry.
@TheChristianRight09: My life is my business. My hobbies, too. Videos are in the making, though. Not all people with a life are exhibitionists, you know :)
Give 15% of your salary and get a public health care - what's the problem?
we (germany) have the best health care system i know and i m glad to be able to use it
@1991maulwurf Obama wanted such a system for the US. You should show it to the whole republican party (but they would call it communist anyway because it contains something for free)
i'm SURE the USians will be demanding that be covered soon enough LOL
@1991maulwurf Wo du es ansprichst, ich erinnere mich gut an einen Tag im Oktober 1998 als ich Super für 1,50 Mark pro Liter getankt habe!