I am German and had a life threatening accident. I spent 4 months in 3 hospitals, had 16 surgeries and then spent more than 1.5 years in recovery. Treatment costs in excess of way over 1.5 million euros. I need to take expensive medicine ever since. How much did I pay? Zero.
@@cerebralcaustic our social system (the Netherlands) in europa is 100x better than USA, true not perfect, but way better than getto's in USA. so i prefer to pay taxes than greed. we're a tiny country but no seaport in USA matches Rotterdam. 25 miles(42KM) or so wide.
The hospitals here are private, they don't belong to the government. So everyone fights for money. As you see, we have two different health insurances, one by the government and one that is private. So everyone will be treaten in the hospital, but if your health insurance is by the government you have to sit and wait a long time, while the ones that have a private health insurance comes always first. Even you already sit there for hours. Also if you have a private health insurance the hospitals offer you more treatments for you condition. Some useful ones and some that also can cause health problems. They heal you till you are sick, because the hospitals makes money that way. I am sure you didn't know that and maybe you don't believe it also. But I had to say it. I am German and I lived in hospitals for the last 3 years, in and out for the last years. First I had a knee joint break, then I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.
@@Stylomagic Yeah for sure there are problems with the german system, but it is far better than the American system and it would probably be better to eliminate the private health insurance and reduce the numbers of insurance companies to reduce burecracy and prefertial treatment. The silver lightning is that at least no private-insured citizen comes first, if you treatment is urgent. Urgency tops everything. But this weird pain you feel in your elbow? Good luck getting an appointment with an orthopedist within the next 4 months if your are public-insured. If you are private-insured please come in tomorrow.
How must that sound for people in the US? I can call an ambulance, no problem, but I can't afford a taxi. Not that I need a taxi with our public transportation system.
In the US, if you are required to use an ambulance to get to a hospital, but fail to notify the insurance company of your hospitalization (because you're unconscious, or on an operating table), the insurance company might make you pay for the ambulance. What a joke!
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo bruh, you make it sound so expensive, while you side is clearky more expensive. how is anyone gonna justify 2700 just like that, thats insane. And also 135 is a lot of money for some people and the fact, that you had to pay that just sounds pretty rediculous to most germans.
@@jonas162 It doesn't only sound ridiculous. It IS ridiculous... :) If it hadn't been mentioned I still wouldn't know "how much it is" to call an ambulance. In the last four decades I haven't received a single medical bill for basic or emergency treatment here in Germany. That's what I call a "quality health insurance system" - a reliable, income-based" universal health care system for everyone without having to worry about the costs AT ALL!
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo bruh, just because you only needed help once in such a long time doesnt mean, that that is true for every othe person, also there of cause is a difference between habing to pay a large sum of money on the spot and paying it over a long pefiod of time. if i would have to pay up 2.7k on the spot i would be more than just broke, i would have to sell everything i own basically. lastly, how are you gonna say in your first comment that you dont think every german is as "ignorant" but proceed to asume that i mwant to trivialize your totally valid point of view, whis is something you do not do at all in your first comment, which is inpolite. Aduming, that i would answer with what you wrote down is honestly realyy insulting and does not belong in a discussion even if its on the internet.
In America people think about money before calling an ambulance. In Germany it is a crime (unterlassene Hilfeleistung) to not call an ambulance for someone in need.
Same goes for Italy... I mean every 1st world country pretty much agrees on ambulance rides being free or really close to that and therefore prosecutes citizens that refuse to call for an ambulance whenever needed, the fact that this isn’t the norm everywhere is mind boggling
Yep Italy also. If you see someone in dire need of help and walk away it's actual a crime. I saw someone getting hit by a car. I called immediately and followed their instructions.
@@i-am-art Believe me.. in germany there is much more freedom of speech then america ever had. I see so many people getting arrested for no reason. Is that what your so called freedom of speech is about?
@@creyes4182 Precisely .... in 2018 in the US corporate america paid 7% of total IRS actual tax receipts whereas individuals paid 93% of actual tax receipts. If one can say with a straight fact that corporate america only uses 7% of total government goods and services ... then I have a Bernie Madoff investment winner to sell to you. The US income tax system needs to be totally overhauled to be rational. logical, and to eliminate the massive tax preferences and gaping holes in it. A little twist here and a little new tax there just won't do it. The whole income tax system has to be completely overhauled. And it would not be all that difficult to do that along the lines of a few basic principles.
also Germany: - top income tax rate of 42% on 51,900 Euro (that's US $57,100 which has a 12% to 22% income tax rate) - 19% VAT on most purchases, 7% on food and a few other categories. top sales tax in the US is about 9.5% - one of the lowest home ownership rates in the developed world
@@cerebralcaustic Even with higher taxes Germany has cheaper healthcare, cheaper childcare, and cheaper college costs, and paid family leave. Also has lower infant mortality and happier population. Taxes aren't the end of the world.
Nobody in the US gets fired if they call in sick. That's illegal in most states. Thirty days of vacation (it's actually five weeks, or 25 days, btw) are useless if you don't have enough money to travel or do something for entertainment.
@Mirza Ahmed Most of our entertainment is actually way cheaper than in the US because everything which can be considered "cultural" or "educational" has a lower tax and state support keeps ticket prices affordable. And you do know that Germans are kind of infamous for being big travellers, right? But even if you spend the paid vacation at home, it is still a gift to be able to spend time with your family and recharge.
@Oskar Villani, UK's health model is almost the polar opposite of Germany's. UK's NHS involves government-sponsored insurance, government-sponsored hospitals, and government-sponsored healthcare workforce plus a private sector outside the NHS. Germany has private health insurance with some state subsidies, private hospitals, and private workforce. The two models vary widely not just in structure but also in terms of costs and satisfaction. Most European countries fall on a spectrum between one of these two major models. What they all DO share in common is universal coverage.
@@rutvin8763 @Emil Sinclair no, about 70% of all Germans are insured with public insurance, as in not for profit insurance providers, which often stem from large union workers associations. These are basically if you would have several UK "NHS" providers that you can choose from, not compareable to the private insurance companies in the US.
As a German I think it’s funny to hear Americans saying “we give Americans freedom to chose”. I have my insurance (which I can change whenever I want and it takes minutes to do so) and I have the freedom to go to the doctor when I want, where I want etc. Also they forgot to mention the medicines. For all the essential medicines, if they cost until 99€, I only pay five. All medicines over 100€ we pay 10€. I don’t know any German who is against this system. Everyone is happy. The ones who pay and never use are happy, I mean, who wants to be sick? But they still have the peace of mind that, if something goes wrong, they won’t die for not being able to afford. And people who are sick are also able to afford it. I think for a rich country it is the minimum.
We did something wrong when we privatised nursing/elderly care and hospitals tho. We shouldn't have done that. It's really bad as you may know. Our system is not perfect. And it's a good thing to complain, so it gets better again.
its actually 10% of the medicines price but never less than 5€ (ok there are a few exceptions) and never more than 10€. Also this is limited at 2% of your income or 1% if you chronically sick
"I have the freedom to go to the doctor when I want, where I want etc." - haha, good luck getting a Termin at a decent doctor :D Waiting 2-3 months is not that uncommon. I recently got a Termin for which I have to wait 5 months! And then doctors barely spend 5 minutes with you - most of them try to kick you out as soon as you get into their office. They get only a few euros for every patient, so they try to get as much patients as possible through the day without taking care of them. "For all the essential medicines, if they cost until 99€, I only pay five". You only pay 5 when you get a "rezept" from a doctor, and he might not always give it to you. And bunch of drugs/medicine are not covered by medical insurance, like some basic anti-cold/anti-flu stuff. I'm sick of those fairy tales about how good German medicine is.
Kirill well yeah appointments with specialists can take time, that’s true. But that’s mostly an issue of a lack of personnel. Das liegt daran, dass s zu wenig Studienplätze für Medizin gibt. And it’s also got to do with having the phi (zwei-Klassen-system) which I think should be abolished. I totally agree that it’s not perfect. But I’ve never waited more than four weeks being in the shi and overall I’m quite happy. One things for sure: the American system is not an alternative.
The best part actually is: You call in sick, visit a doctor and he will put you off work for some time. You will receive your full wage while you recover.
I could not live calmly in the US. I would have constant anxiety over every stomach ache or sports injury, that could turn out to be the end of life as I know it. I pity everyone of those poor souls who think taking an existential risk like this over a couple dollars more in taxes is worth it.
Everything is a business when most professionals agree that it is. You won't find too many doctors in the states willing to see most patients unless they can pay. You understand what the problem is?
I understand, even as a leftists in America, all companies need some kind of profit to keep running..but to what end?...we can control profit and also need to clean up Washington so we can negotiate with drug companies.
@@DarkMustard1337 as a leftist you'd know that not everything is a private corporation. Public goods are for all - public, not private. Health care and other infrastructure should never be private. It just creates huge amounts of inequality and suffering.
@@cdefgah4343 yes, and if you really get sick, you are being treated without getting a bill that is impossible to pay. You can always go to a doctor without fear because you simply cannot afford it no matter how old you are or what your medical history is. It's not perfect but it is better than many other Healthcare systems.
@@cdefgah4343 its about 7% of your income, that's close to nothing if u think about the fact that you will end up in hospital or at a doctor at least once a year. I bet as an american you pay roughly around 10x your income if u have a serious problem. or you can't afford medication at all if u got an ongoing sickness
@@cdefgah4343 You nailed it. I prefer to "live" in the German system and stay alive than "enjoy a false freedom" and die because I get laid off, lose my health insurance and can't afford a treatment - or don't have a health insurance at all. After all universal (obligatory) health care is one of the great traditions here in Germany. Everyone is insured, even housewives and kids for free in single income households, students, umemployed, refugees, retired people, etc.
The next time I hear any American go "but that's socialsim!" - remember, this was all implemented in 1883 by Otto von Bismarck, a freaking ultra-conservative monarchist and Prussian statesman, who was the first German chancellor in the consitutional monarchy that was founded in 1872/71.
if you want socialised healthcare, then you get together with like minded people and form your own self funded healthcare cooperative. just leave the folks you want out of your socialized system alone, dont tax us for it, we will decide what we want, you decide what you want. Freedom baby, Freedom!
He introduced this as a way of increasing the public opinion of the goverment as it was done in a time with much unrest coming from the working class, it was not like he loved these ideas, rather it was to keep the people happy.
@@dave8599 You know that is a perfectly fine attitude for a country like america, which has no culture, tradition or team spirit, but the thing about Germany is that people actually want that everyone in Germany can live a life without existencial crisis, hence people in Germany get help from the state
I was diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer 5 weeks ago. I had my surgery to remove the cancer and ill start a 6 months chemotherapy in 2 weeks. All of this costs me 0,00$ - Thx Germany
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unplayednamer 01 In Breaking Bad, Walter White is a high school chemistry teacher who also has a second job at a car wash. He’s diagnosed with lung cancer. His salary barely makes ends meet so he turns to manufacturing and selling drugs in order to pay for his treatment and secure his family’s future. It’s a really good show, I highly recommend it. And don’t worry, I didn’t spoil too much, there’s a lot that happens in that show.
Rim pak Is it solidarity when you donate 200$ - 400$ a month to people on gofundme ? It’s the same amount of money to give away without the work the sick person / their family has to put in in order to set up a page like that. I also think that being sick is a very private and emotional thing that people shouldn’t have to make public on those pages. When you’re sick, you should rest and not worry. That’s why paying that is solidarity
No thats the ruggend Individualism, If you are sick and or die or become homeless there is No Others reason than "ya Had or coming" "sucks to be that lazy" ist sickening
Just imagine if they would think the same about the fire brigade or the police. "I don't want to pay for others to use the fire brigade when their house is on fire"
What strikes me every time, is the fact that they end up paying much, much more in the end. Just for the warm, fuzzy, heart-warming feeling that you get knowing others live in misery and die from avoidable afflictions due to lacking health care.
or when people rather take an uber than an ambulance because of affordability. In fact, my sister had a seizure and when she came to she refused to get in the ambulance because she had someone to drive her even though it put her life at risk (the seizure was related to a severe blood infection). She choose to go with some one unqualified because she couldn't pay for something else.
I live here in Germany and I'm American, I love the insurance that I have here. I wish for friends and family members in America could have as good a system !
When I was little I had best experience in Germany especially their health Care system but I had to move back to the US Because my family are in the military but hope to return soon
@@mommakittydragon8926 Are you fully American? I'm a Polish American, Mum from Lublin Poland while my dad an American. I was born here in the States but was raised in Poland by my Aunt who is married to an East Indian and I do speak English Fluently though I have an accent not so sure if you really like it but most people do. So don't know if you mind accent??
Im 20 i was diagnosed with cancer and i didnt pay a single penny for my treatment i had operation im driven by taxi every week 2,5 hours to the clinic i get chemo, radiotion and medication. Thank you God for living in this great country. God bless Germany 🇩🇪
I was born in and lived in the U.S. with a couple of relatively short exceptions for 40 years. I have lived in Germany for the past 7. Even as a reasonably wealthy person with employer provided insurance, healthcare in the U.S. was a hot mess. While it took me a while to adapt to the bureaucracy (which is still substantially less than in the U.S.), I vastly prefer the system here in Germany. Anybody who says that the U.S. has the best healthcare in the world is either lying or has no idea what they are talking about.
Hal A couple of things. Health insurance in Germany is not free. I pay my insurance company every month, and in most cases employers still pay for health insurance as an employment benefit. The difference is that the cost in Germany is based on ability to pay. Second, now that the economy in the US is going down the crapper and unemployment is approaching Great Depression levels, good luck keeping your employer-provided insurance. Your comment demonstrates that a) you obviously have no idea how the German system works and b) you have no idea that you are one layoff away from being well and truly screwed yourself - although I suspect that you will happily die of neglect as your health care is not a right. I may pay more taxes in Germany, but I also get a LOT more in return (better schools, better roads, better social safety net in case of disaster, better public safety, etc.). That‘s not getting screwed by government. That‘s called getting what you pay for.
@@sabundus590 it’s only about 25% private and 75% socialized. I don’t care if it’s private or socialized but in America we need universal healthcare for all.
@@sabundus590 well... it's a social economy that lends from capitalism. And the more healthcare gets privatized the worse it's becoming. We are still better off than most european countries, but it has been getting worse for years now.
I was visiting my sister in the US in 2019. We were watching TV and what hit me most was that almost 80% of all commercials were for various private health insurance providers. That's insane to me.
So true. Prescription drug commercials. People laughing and just having a great time in slow motion. Meanwhile the side effect disclaimer is longer than the ad itself! We'd be a 'Socialist' country if those ads were banned. Yeah, 'we the people'.
@@losttwo704 Yeah! For drugs that fall under the _"Betäubungsmittelgesetz" (narcotics law)_ here in Germany. Commercials for Percocet, a highly addictive opioid _(the same class as heroin f.e.),_ seemed insane to me. Oh! And commercials for lawyers. There's nothing really bad about it. It's just illegal here. We also don't have that culture of civil lawsuit. Which is often laughed about here, but I actually think it's a great thing to hold people or companies accountable for their wrongdoings. Just the sums that courts often come up with seem to be out of proportion. But it's a very good thing that people that were imprisoned for something they didn't do, get millions of dollars for compensation. Here in Germany you get what you would have missed in income during that time, plus 75€ for everyday. To me this sounds like a bad joke. Since you'll never get your stolen time back, you should at least be giving a large amount of money directly and a lifelong pension.
How about the insane amount of money Pharma pays to put prescription drug commercials on TV? You know the prescriptions we just can’t buy without our doctors’ permission. Drugs we know nothing about.
HomeOfTheGallaghers Could you please Tell that to everybody living here? Ím a pharmacist in germany and everybody complains, that our meds are too expensive
@44444 777 mainly unusual/ uncommon meds and not prescribed ones, if you have to pay its a small part of the med, my sister had cancer and her meds cost about 2 million and we barely paid anything for it, insurance did like 99,999%
I am German, living in the US. My mom lives in Germany and was found to have early stage breast cancer, she needed a lumpectomy, was in the hospital for one week, after that she went through Chemotherapy, needed meds for pain and nausea, then follow up visits with her surgeon, gyn and family doctor; she was offered counselling and a dietary consultant but felt she did not need either. Out of pocket expense: 25 Euros, which as I understand it was a mandatory contribution towards food in the hospital with the argument that people would spend money for their food if they were at home. (apparently the food was not bad) She is right now hiking in the German alps. Same thing happens in the US: she would be in personal bankruptcy and me, my sister and brother would be responsible to pay down her debt for the rest of our lives.
They likely won't take cash. I had an appointment yesterday and the "physician" would not accept cash or a check, only credit cards. This is a new trend in the U.S. that will further prevent the lower, working, and middle classes from receiving healthcare. In addition, the credit card companies can become richer.
@ I did some reading after Kristen asked her question and $1500 seems like a bargain. Others have paid as much as $3000 for an ambulance ride. Ambulance services should be paid for with tax money, like all healthcare, and should be free.
Lol how about look at the obese and people with so many health problems and still want free health care while shoving fries and burgers down their face. Visit any other country and im sure you would starve
America is a "Bananen Republik". Banana Republic. I compare the US with Brasil, Italy, Spain, Congo or Ruanda... I mean every failure-country around the world. A State full of idiots and jerks.
America was and will never be the "best" country in the World. Only they do is hyping their military so they start more wars for business. Americans only want $. If the Earth want to be healthy then we should shut down murica. Biggest terrorist country in world :/
@@Kiwionair that's funny because the world wants america to cut out the wars, but they flip out when they cut their money from the scheme of things. kinda hypocritical huh? im not saying it was a good move to cut from the WHO, im just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. the world just wants their money
In Germany you also have to pay for an ambulance but in almost every case your insurance will cover this up. Once I black out because of to much alcohol and I hade to pay for my ride into the hispital ;P.
In Germany you also pay for the ambulance, depending on how many people are involved it will cost you 350-600€. Your insurance just pays for it and most people never see any bill.
One of the best parts: "Children covered for free" means "Children" under the age of 25. Or 26 when they completed a year in a voluntary public work program after school (which is not uncommon). Yes, out of my 27 years, i only had to pay 1 year in Health insurance :)
@@SillyhAsH What, is "paying for healthcare" your "adulthood" threshold? Not legal age for marriage or drinking, or the legality and ability to sign contracts, vote, open a business, etc? Just paying for your own healthcare? That's weird.
Germany is trash in so many ways but it lets you alive with his healthcare system. So you can feel the pain in your ass even longer. I love it 👍. Realy im proud of our healthcare
@@little_lord_tam I think the same about the US. Indeed without exeption. Trash in all ways. Im so glad not to live in America. A Banana Republic. And by the way, please enjoy your "asspain" silently.
Germany is battling the virus great even some patients getting treated from other countries. America is getting benched, sorry but if you can’t even see now how bad your healthcare is then you‘re lost
@@PeTer-xd8nx yeah, he wanted to keep the workers quiet by "gifting" them that. He wanted to do specific things that the SPD demanded to make them unimportant and weaken the workermovement. The Goal was to prevent a Revolution like in the Soviet Union.
When I go to a doctor here in Germany. I give someone the card from my Krankenkasse and its all done. I don't even see bills or have to call with the Krankenkasse to get something approved. Hope more people around the world can have this luxury in the future
Yes, having a card that also grants access to all your previous medical history is extremely nice Julian. I've had chronic kidney stones since I was 13 & have had over 60 in my lifetime. If I go to an American ER for brutal kidney stone pain, I'm not f*cking around & would prefer some immediate help. Instead I have to prove to the Dr. on duty I'm actually in pain through lab tests. These tests can take at least 45MINS & sometimes I've even waited 2-3HRS. All of this while they "figure out" if I'm really hurting or just a dope fiend looking for his next fix. The indifference is really deplorable for someone in my position!
Lucky you, bin privat versichert, habe aber keine Karte, weil meine Versicherung das nicht hat, sehe jede Rechnung. Für jede Rechnung brauche ich 30 min für die Abrechnung. Und da ich viele körperliche Probleme habe, gehe ich im Schnitt alle 1-2 Wochen zum Artzt. Der Luxus sei dir aber gegönnt.
@@venezstudios8135 alles hat seine vor und Nachteile. Du musst deine Abrechnung selber machen, ich kann nicht zu jedem Arzt gehen und warte oft länger um einen Termin zu bekommen. 🤷♂️
@Tho Mas well to go with your link we are on place 25. the us is in the 30th. We may don’t have the top 1% of doctors but here not just the top 1% can go to a doctor without thinking about the monetary consequences. Its like in every other field in the us. You have a small minority who can do whatever they like, make as much money as they like and rule the country. Here everyone can get great healthcare, get every degree of education and become whatever they choose. The us is antiquated in its way of running a society and government. I hope the US will someday loose its status as a 3. would country and become a social place to offer a great live for everyone
@Tho Mas also there are many more Statistical factors like infant mortality (ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality-igme) Germany: 0.37 US: 0.66 Or healthy lifeyears (www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Health/Life-expectancy) Germany: 70.2 years US: 67.6 years I can go on and on and on
Das kommt darauf an. Einfach ein Zahn ziehen; dass dann ich mir kaum vorstellen. Der Zahnarzt wird versuchen suchen,wenn möglich den Zahn irgendwie zu retten. Und dann kann es schonmal dazu kommen, dass du was dazu zahlen musst. Und das ist manchmal nicht gerade wenig.
New Zealand needs to learn from Germany about that too. We have mostly public healthcare but for some reason someone decided that teeth aren’t part of your body or something.
I am Italian and I find it impossible to understand too. And 99,99% of the world population will say the same. The USA are a very unfortunate exception. The rest of the planet has public health.
@@emiquetzalkoala4288 Now thats just plain wrong, things get worse the literal second you leave europe, arguably it already gets worse with the sinking infrastructure standards the further you go east.
@@slyseal2091 According to my personal experiences things are slightly different. Yes, there are countries where infrastructures and organization leave much to be desired. But not all non-European countries. And not all Eastern European countries. But the main point is that a poor or underdeveloped country has a good excuse to have a far-from-perfect health system: some countries are just unable to provide quality treatment, but all countries, inclulding the poorest ones, offer treatment for free to their citizens, and many also offer free treatment to foreigners, because health is a basic, primary human right. They offer what they can, and ask nothing in return. The USA, the most powerful and one of the richest countries on Earth has simply no excuse. They could offer the best treatment to anyone, still they choose to "sell" this human right to whom can afford to pay for it. I don't mean to sound insulting, but this approach to people's health is simply inhumane. Another interesting detail is the total lack of reciprocity: if an American citizen breaks an arm during a holiday in Rome, he is treated for free. If an Italian citizen breaks an arm in the USA, he'll be told that he's on his own, unless he can pay for the treatment. How unfair is it?
@@phosphordiester7545 yeah because bismarcks politic was very similar to the other aristocrats. the normal people suffer a lot 🤷🏻♂️ and the reforms of bismarcks were not that good. after years the system became the good basics🤷🏻♂️
I used to be against Universal Healthcare but after living in Germany I’m all for it, I’d rather pay taxes knowing where it goes as opposed to being extorted by Insurance Companies, Hospitals, and Big Pharma
@@ccshredder9506 Of course, there are always people that take advantage of a system but I rather have that then seeing people going bankrupt due to insane high healthcare costs.
@@ccshredder9506 I mean what are you going to do about it? No one's going around thinking they can do whatever because of universal healthcare. The example here's always obesity but the US has much more obese people. There are also motorbikers, skateboarders, fireworks enthusiasts and many other groups of people that are quite prone to injury. Would you deny these people healthcare because they "had it coming"? To me helping sick people is just common sense.
@@cyan_oxy6734 not when you're stuck wondering who's responsibility it is to take care of every sick person. In a perfect world, everyone would pitch in, but they don't. So much for that. So how do you offer health care in a reasonable fashion, where it doesn't cost anything and no one is forced to do it?
Yes, because we have citizens that don't bother to vote- it has been estimated that there are between 60 to 100 million people who are eligible to vote but choose not to, ignorant and apathetic- "I don't know and I don't care." The 1% of the United Corporation of America have all the power because the masses choose NOT to use theirs
I am a German physician (oncologist) with also experience in the American system and this video is very accurate. In summary, I really like the German healthcare system, because I had never to put down any patient for being uninsured. The medicine is excellent and especially in a serious area like oncology, all people, no matter if publicly or privately insured, get the best oncology treatment available. This is very fair and social. It is true that German publicly insured patients have to wait longer for some procedures, but this is never true for emergencies and I count cancer in as an emergency. Generally, they have to wait longer for an appointment e. g. at an orthopedic or dermatologist, but this is never health-threatening. If you have something serious like heart attack, stroke, cancer, there is absolutely the same quality for different insurances.
B-but Ben Stefan Molyneux told me he had to wait a decade for his cancer surgery. I'm being sarcastic, of course. Not about him lying about wait times, but about me taking him seriously :)
If my mom wasn't german and thus had access to german healthcare, she would be dead. I can't believe there's a country that claims it's the best one in the world while its citizens can't go to a Hospital because they simply can't afford it. America what is going on
It's not only the health care system.... Their education system is just as bad... Imagine paying thousands of dollars just for university.... It's horrible... And if you're unlucky you get shot...
I have the same sentiments, our National Health Service in the UK is not perfect but the Brits would never swap it for the current US system, I do hope Americans don't believe the lies and vote for Berni.
kate s I have experienced both. If you are poor is better in Germany. Just hope you don’t need a diagnosis fast or your child needs long time care. If you can afford American health care then the care is better
"they think its normal" Yea, because it is :D i pay some € every month to ensure i neither die nor go bankrupt by a papercut, like it should be in every developed country in the world. The american system is just barbaric.
Americans are all about branding, as stupid as that is. I propose that every time some dumba** says socialism bad! (despite Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid) that we rebrand with a vengeance with AMES. Americans for a More Equitable Society! We have aims (get it) to fix healthcare and other social ills in our society.
To everyone saying that healtcare in Germany isn’t free because you pay taxes. I was in the hospital in life threatening conditions three times before i turned 18, before i even started paying taxes myself. Now that i’m 18, and thankfully alive, I will happily pay taxes to give back to the system that saved my life, and to help others who need care. If i lived in America i’m sure my parents would have gone bankrupt trying to keep me alive.
Out of my three kids, we had our first in Germany when I was stationed there. It was by far the best hospital experience we've had. This myth of "choice" is just a myth.
Oh goodie Blue Cross Blue Shield can choose to assign me insanely high premiums and copays, while denying me coverage if I go out of state or a different doctor. Thank goodness for all this choice!
@Nspnspker This is changing though. More and more doctors only take privately insured patients. I had a skin infection emergency, I couldn't see the dermatologist closest to me, but had to go to another one, taking an extra bus.
thaliasghost Insured patients in the US always have to watch out that the provider (doctor) is listed by their insurance as „in network“. So the „extra bus“ is a given here.
Nspnspker choice is a hoax, as he said. I just wanna add: it is no choice in case of not being able to afford the doctor’s visit, the mental stress on those who have no idea if they will drown in debts after getting emergency care is life threatening. Just as the diagnosis itself maybe....
Thank you for coming here. If you intend to help people, yepp, you came to the right country. But assuming you will make huge amounts of money here is probably a pipe dream. Yeah, you will lead a fairly secure financial life, with quite some benefits, but nowhere to what American doctors will recieve. Note, I did not say 'earn' because that they would mean they are entitled to it due to the amount or quality of work they put in, especially in comparisson to international doctors around the world.
I got that you are a doctor in Germany. Can I ask something to you? What do you think about being pyhsician in Germany? Being Germany or being US for working? Which is the best? I'm completely undecided 😊
I'm a French citizen who is living in Austria, and it is nearly the same whole around Europe...! Maybe you should copy this system instead of making profit from sickness...!!!
And we have some of the highest rated of depression and teenage suicide in the world here. My pychologist makes 10x more money than my dad and he went to med school and grad school (he has an m.d and p.h.d)
Salut Samy. Peux-je demander ou t'habite en Autriche. Moi, j'habite aussi en Autriche, à Vienne. J'apprends le français à l'école. C'est pourquoi je parle français un peu. J'espère que tu me reponds.
@@yeehaw693 hallo also ich bin in Bad Vöslau zuhause und muß dir zu deinem hervorragenden französisch gratulieren, franchement tu m'a étonné en lisant ton mot, je me suis dit que c'est vraiment très bien écrit, si la vocabulaire est aussi très bien t'a vraiment un très bon dons d'être polyglotte...! 👍 Ja, ich lebe mit größeren Unterbrechungen seit 81 in Österreich, und würde dir gerne anbieten wenn du möchtest das wir mal Kontakt aufnehmen um eventuell mal richtig zu plaudern oder wenn du bei deinem Französisch Hilfe benötigst würdest würde ich dir gerne helfen, meine Verlobte kommt dieses Jahr noch von Paris, definitiv nach Österreich und Sie muß wiederum Deutsch ziemlich von 0 auf lernen..! Aber das werden wir schon hinbekommen,..! Schreib mir ob du interessiert wärst und ich würde dir meine Mail schicken..! À bientôt l'ami ! Reste en bonne santé. S. K.
@@samykhiari2822 Oui, Samy, je suis intéressé. Le truc c'est juste, que j'utilise pas vraiment mon email. Si tu veux, tu peux m'envoyer ta adresse quand même, mais vraiment pour moi, le meilleur manière de communiquer en ligne, c'est Discord. Je sais pas si tu connais. En tout cas tu peux me donner ton email, just pour maintenant. Encore, j'espère que tu reponds. Et, merci pour m'avoir répondu si vite le premièr fois.
To the Americans that say "I want my freedom etc." when selecting health care: You have way more freedom when you and your family don't need to worry about getting sick/having an accident/being able to pay for cancer treatment :)
UA-cam knows me too good. Last week, I was curious and asked my insurance about how much money they paid for me since late 2015. Yesterday the mail arrived with a summary. It was roughly 65.000€. And guess what? I only pay like ~600€ a month which means I paid like 36.000€ in that time. And now I see this video :D Man, I love our system. And I am glad people support each other. Now, being fit, I pay my share with pride. Someone needs it now :)
Dude, when I was still covered with health insurance via my father (also Germany o.c.) I had to go to a specialized hospital for treatment. It was private, therefore we got bills, but we just redirected those to the insurance. The cost came out as roughly 70000€, not counting therapy afterwards. And I havent paid a dime for almost all of my life to health insurance.
@Tho Mas Stop spamming this everywhere. Of course it isn't the best, but atleast you won't go bankrupt because of medical bills. According to the source you quoted, Germany hast the 25th best healthcare system which is not really middle-class.
@@1chish Yet I heard from a British guy that although NHS is cheaper, the capacity is low. So if you fall ill in the UK while it's not life threatening, you will have to wait quite a while to get treated.
@@ThatSilentGuy That is partially true. 'Capacity' isn't low as you describe it as in normal times the NHS cares for anyone who needs care when they need it. OK go to A&E with a busted finger and you may wait a couple of hours if there is a stream of major accident victims needing priority. An hour after pubs close and the fighters appear A&E is 'challenging' but you WILL get treated and cared for. Longer waits are for non urgent surgery and for what is called 'elective surgery'. If your well being is in any way in danger you get treated. The Pandemic has shown how flexible the NHS has been (with 7 new emergency hospitals built in a few weeks) but this has pushed some waiting lists out as capacity is taken with this very dangerous virus. Whatever happens no one leaves hospital or a doctor's surgery with a bill.
@Karl Marx 'Bruh' no it hasn't. Between 7% and 22% of the NHS budget goes to 'Private Providers' depending on how that term is defined. The upper figure includes GPs and Pharmacies which are all private businesses or partnerships but that was always the case right from 1948. Without those it is about 9%.
If you dont pay for healthcare you lose it in Germany as well. You either pay with parts of your income and its deducted from your paycheck without anything you can do. If you lose your job and you are broke, you can get Medicare or Medicaid in the US.
Jack Lan *free at the point of use because it shouldn’t be the size of your wallet that decides whether you’re healthy and it shouldn’t be the size of your parents’ wallet that decides whether you receive an education.
I recently needed to take my daughter to urgent care and emergency room for an acute illness. Even though I have a good insurance from my employer, the opaque costs and not knowing what would be covered added to the stress. And that kind of situation wasn't the time to comparison shop or think clearly regarding which tests to decline. Their incentive is to sell you as many services as possible. It's madness. America deserves a better system.
I spent a night in a hospital in Germany, got my blood tested, had a MRI and done some other tests done on me. Two weeks later I get a bill. What did I have to pay? 10€.
10€/day for staying in the hospital. But it is not alowed to charge you for more than 20 days / year. (There are even some rules, that some people don't have to pay for a single day)
Damn, in America it'd be broken down like this: Hospital overnight : $1500.00 (on average) Blood testing: $20 (depending on insurance and if they cover the test, of not it could be up to $800 MRI: $400 (depending on insurance) We don't get a heads up on if insurance will cover us or not. We have to ask in advance and make sure. I had a mole checked for cancer last year, $40 office visit but the lab wasn't in network and charged me $900 - that bill is unpaid.
Serious? Expensive, I live in SEA Country, our government request company to cover all employees personal accident insurance and most companies cover their employees medical insurances as well. Some ppl buy their own insurance too in case the company insurance coverage is not sufficient.
Die Klausi refugees are hardly taking anyone’s jobs. The language barrier makes that near impossible. Besides the ones that are working are taking the jobs that most people don’t want to do.
Thor Boysen nobody seems to be willing to educate you so I’ll do the job. Israel is a different, independent country. Wow!!! I know! Mindblowing! And you know what that means? The German constitution doesn’t apply to Israel. It only applies to Germany. Crazy how the internet can teach you.
The best thing about German health care is: You can call an ambulance anytime when you feel it is necessary without fearing to be bankrupt afterwards. It costs at maximum 10€ and rest is covered by the health insurance. Even if they send a helicopter (which they sometimes do in remote areas or if it is really urgent), you still pay 10€ maximum...
Kleine Verbesserung :D : Der Rettungshubschrauber fliegt genauso wie die Bodenteams zur Einsatzstelle, heißt er kommt auch einfach oft wenn nichts anderes in der Nähe ist oder der Transport schneller, bzw. schonender ist. Also heißt er kommt nicht immer nur dann wenn jemand zerstückelt wurde :D.
@@ccalmanii5225 Es werden sehr oft Hubschrauber einfach benutzt weil man sie grad da hat. Wenn sie nicht benutzt werden sind die komplett ineffizient was die kosten angeht deshalb werden sie auch öfter als theoretisch notwendig benutzt.
As an american who has been living in Germany for almost 10 years, I can't even compare the two systems. German system is compassionate, reasonable, and highly effective. American system is, in comparison, socially barbaric and effectively not all that (yes, even and especially in terms of treatment, not even considering cost!) And regarding wait times, I have never had to wait for more than two weeks for an appointment with a specialist (in Munich). I had a quasi-elective surgery in 2018 that took 6 weeks from first visit with the surgeon to completion, and that included two weeks of annual christmas "shutdown" for things non-essential. I had a necessary surgery in the US and it took 5 months. I just have never had this experience of long wait times in Munich. Maybe I'm special :)
YEP - if you're chronically ill in the American system, it really is cruel & unusual punishment Lisa. The insurance companies would rather have you die than to pay out huge claims on treatments & medications. They just deny everything your Dr. wants to try once you start costing them too much $. It totally blows the minds of all my German friends when I tell them these things.
I wouldn't agree on the "highly effective" if we're talking monetary efficiency. There's a lot we could handle better in that regard. But if we compare it to the American system, that's "Heulen auf hohem Niveau," as we say ;)
Regarding wait times it can be a different story in smaller cities and rural areas. I have had doctors telling me I would have to wait several months for an appointment, but the thing is, you are free to choose your doctor. If one doctors office tells you that you would have to wait really long, just go on google, find another one in your area and call them. I called a specialist last Friday, they told me the earliest free appointment would be in early December, so I told them "no thanks" called another one and already got to see the doctor today. And if there is really no other specialist that you would need anywhere near where you live, but it is really urgent, you will get an appointment very soon even if the doctor doesn't have free slots in the near future. And for routine check ups that are not prompted by acute symptoms, but are simply prophylactic there is a simple trick and you live in an area where you usually have to wait really long for appointments, there is one simple trick: just call three months earlier. My mom for example is supposed to get a gastroscopy every other year as a routine check up and she lives in a city where gastroenterologist do indeed have very long waiting periods, butte knows that and simply calls them 3 months in advance to get an appointment.
Living in Germany I didn't fell sick or needed any medical treatment for over 7 years. I was never upset or doubted to pay over 700€ per month for health insurance all along. Somehow it makes you proud to be able supporting your fellow citizens and help them recovering. Probably one day I am grateful for others doing the same for me ;)
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 Music in Life ist vermutlich Mitglied der gesezlichen Krankenversicherung: Beitrag ist einkommensabnängig, 700 Euro ist schon eher die obere Einkommensgrenze. Der Betrag ist NUR von Beitragssatz und Einkommen abhängig, nicht von Alter oder Gesundheitsdaten. Familenmitglieder kostenfrei mitversichert. Du bist privat versichert bei der Bayerische Beamtenkasse AG (BBK): Beitrag richtet sich nach Vertrag und Deinen Gesundheitsdaten. Familienmitglieder müssen extra versichert werden, Beiträge können im Alter und Krankheitsverlauf steigen in der privaten Krankenversicherung! Kann man so nicht direkt vergleichen, alles hat Vor- und Nachteile.
America: "We give Americans the right to choose." American Health Insurance: "No, you have to take Dr. A! We don't support Dr. B." Germany: "You MUST have health insurance! It's the law of the land!" German Health Insurance: "Take whatever certified physician you want and need." Also Germany: "We NEED more physicians in rural areas!" Bavaria: "Let's give financial aid to all medical students who want to open shop in understaffed rural areas!"
Obama: "You have the right to keep your doctor PERIOD!" Reality: You have to have what the government provided Obama misspoke or you misheard that is after he toured all 57 US states.
@@Monaleenian Uhm, I'm not an American but it is so obvious what he meant saying "fifty....seven". He visited 47 states, one more to go = 48, staff did not allow him to visit Hawaii and Alaska = 50. I read some of the comments there and I start to understand how a large portion of American voters can be tricked into voting against their own interests... like a good and affordable healthcare system for themselves.
Most of the EU countries have similar health care systems, not just 'one country'. Let's not get it wrong here. The USA is the sick country here (pun intended). Civilized countries don't make businesses out of their education and healthcare systems at the expense of their own people. Those two things are the bedrock of a society and say everything you need to know about the country along with the prison system and animal welfare. The USA fails on every front.
It's not "free", we all pay for our health insurance with every paycheck. You also don't just get therapy, you are evaluated, if it is decided you can apply for therapy it is a fixed number of hours.
it's "free" if you have a psychiatric diagnosis (ICD 10 - F ). if you just want to "talk", or your psychologist has no aproval from the insurence compandy, you have to pay yourself!
It's mostly free, but the waiting times for psychotherapy are especially long. Much much more than the usual healthcare, more than 1 year often times, which is ridiculous. But still better than in the US I guess
I am German and I can only say, that the German Health Care System has saved my life. As a 19 year old I had a car accident and broke my neck. I survived due to the quick and professional response of an ambulance crew and of course the doctors in Hospital. Remember Fight Club? The Bartender after „Tyler“ revealed his true Identity? This Bartender had something called a „Halo-Fixateur“. I had one of these screwed to my head-bone for a couple of weeks. And all this therapie was free for me thanks to my normal insurance. Not to mention the physical therapie after the wounds were healed. This year (I am 46 now) I had a shoulder surgery. No bill. The only thing, I have to give a little for, is for the physical therapy. 60 Euros for TEN of 40 Minutes therapy. Right Americans call this system „Socialist“. That is dumbfuck! It saves lives. When I even feel not well - I could go free to any Doctor I want. I don’t do so - but I could. Teeth‘s are another topic. Normal treatment is free, but if you need some new parts - well - that is not free and (the parts) can cost you a lot. But the implanting will not be charged. Only the parts. But still we do not talk about 10 Grand.
I think free check-ups whenever you want them is a crucial part of the German system. I know enough people in the American system who won't go to the doctor unless they absolutely have to, because they feel it takes away money from their family. So, any problem you have, you're likely to discover it later rather than sooner, giving a minor problem time to grow into a big one.
Oh, it is absolutely socialist and introduced to fight Socialists and yet, Germany is among the strongest economic countries in the world. It's not the spice that makes the dish, it makes the right combination of spices.
@@grayscribe1342 Social Democrats are NOT Socialists. There is a difference. The main difference being that Socialists basically want state control in everything (not to confuse with communists, who want the workers own the result of their work), while Social Democrat just want social and democratic policies. German healthcare is not socialist because it is NOT provided by the state, it is just heavily regulated by it. For a socialist Healthcare system, you need to look at France or the former eastern block states. Social Democrats don't have an issue with Capitalism in itself as long as it is softened by social policies, Socialists do and Communists are completely against it.
@@swanpride I know, I just wanted to keep it simple for some people and give them something that does not fit into their 'it's bad, because the word socialist is in it' mindset ;-)
I as a refugee came to Germany. At first I had no Job didn't know the language but still was insured and wasn't denied any health related care. Now for my health Insurance, I pay half from my work and the other half is paid by my employer. The system is not perfect but far better than most developed countries.
In the US, private companies have substantial control over the government, they influence everything from college tuition, to insurance, to military conflict abroad.
Says Dan Torrino, who obviously knows nothing about Europe. "You will notice that where the state is large, people at the top tend to have little downward mobility-in such places as France, the state is chummy with large corporations and protects their executives and shareholders from experiencing such descent; it even encourages their ascent." Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Skin in the Game (2017)
Not different here. The only reason why the healthcare system has not been overthrown is because it was fixed after the war in the constitution and hence is effectively unchangeable. We have a lot of people in powerful positions who would want to change it against the law and against the will of the majority. If they could they would achieve this by lobbyism.
@@marapaprr4930 Id say most european countrys have a healthy enuff Democracy to prevent that. Still lobbyism takes place to a massive extent in Germany aswell. Difference being most germans arent as easily influenced in elections. We have less of a personality cult compared to the US. Maybe due to bad history with personality cults here ;)
@Kamil S US understanding of a proper healthcare is pathetic. Funny how a governmental healthcare like in germany or in scandinavia works perfectly fine but somehow not in the US. Your understanding of "healthcare" is that it is equal to capitalism which is terribly wrong and you and your government fail to understand that
@Kamil S well yes they might not grow on trees but if you don't charge them couple 100k for daring to go to medical school they might grow a bit faster
I live in germany, got a call the other day - it was my insurance company just asking how I'm doing during these hard times. Nothing else, just a friendly guy being like "How are you doing? Is it alright if we check in with you atleast once a year?" He added "You can always call us, if you have questions about your insurance or anything health related."
In Croatia, a tourist got into an accident while hiking and when she was rescued she started worrying about the bill since the HGSS (Croatian mountain rescue service) got involved and stuff. I believe she cried and then asked what is it gonna cost. She was VERY relieved when she found out that it was all free.
I once had a broken tooth in Serbia. I had to pay the dentist something like 50 euros (which was incredibly cheap for a 45 minute operation), but my insurance back home covered all the costs.
Many Croatian doctors use the same card system as in Germany. Iam cro-German. So we are also covered in our vacation there. But I am sure this is in the whole EU area.
Yeah the UK gov is not doing a great job... But at least a lot of people are furloughed if they can't work. That's the one positive we have over the US
When my father had an injury, we were in Alaska for fishing and he had a hook throuhg his hand, he had real pain. In the hospital they did not ask what happened or how he feels, the first question was: Cash or Credit card? I love America and the americans are nice people, but im happy living in Germany!
I had an accident in a country far away from home. Got airlifted to a nearby hospital. Emergency care. Comatose for 2 weeks. Driven back home by ambulance (a 12-hour one-way ride). Rehabilitation for 6 months and then slowly reintegrating back to work, where the job I had still existed and I was not fired. Cost: nothing. Insurances and social security took care of everything including my salary and travel to and from rehab. I'm pretty sure people from the USA would be screwed over with "oh, that was out of network, it's not insured" and other nonsense, making them go bankrupt, without a job, thus without insurance, and finally homeless. Our doctors still make a ton of money. There are no waiting lists. Everybody pays a mandated health care insurance. And because everybody does, it's cheap. And it covers EVERYTHING.
@@georgebishop4941 he didn't say anything of that matter nor is the video about germany, it's rather about showing a working alternative to the US healthcare system. Your comment comes around a bit butthurt
George Bishop yeah, but Germany shows that you can have public healthcare and 100% affordable coverage without being "forced into one insurance" which the US-Americans are so afraid of. We still have a competitive system with freedom of choice. Because of that Germany might not have the best healthcare system in Europe, but one that could work in the US, because people there are still afraid of the socialist boogeyman.
@@georgebishop4941 actually Germany is something Special regarding insurance. It's not the cheapest but Germany had some of the best medical coverage/medical services in the world.
I work in the German healthcare system and one thing I would change is that SHI should be mandatory for all, PHI only as an add on (single room, head of department treatment, alternative treatments...). The SHI is the best thing Germany ever invented. It is what makes Germany a great place to live.
@@untergehermuc only partially. you can freely choose between any SHI that has a branch in the state you live/ work in. so, with a few exceptions, that's basically all of them.
In Lithuania for e.g. moms get fully paid maternity leave 2 months before childbirth and 1 year after and in the second baby year of life 80% of salary, and new fathers get four weeks fully paid leave in addition :)
Imagine being told since birth that your country is the greatest, best, most fantastic place on Earth! Then imagine hearing that another country has something better than yours: "They must be taxing them to hell" "The quality isn't as good as ours though." "Their country is full of lazy people who want handouts!" This is inevitably what every "discussion" alluding to America being deficient in something leads to. The other countries look in confusion as they watch a country keep shooting itself in the foot and claiming it doesn't hurt. "In fact, this hole in my foot is beautiful, american, and patriotic! You all just don't understand our greatness!"
@@TheLeaveTaking Even the poorest Americans believe they are better off than the richest foreigner. They'll usually spout something off about having more freedom.
@Denise Johnson Yeah. There's always some mental gymnastics going on whenever you try to ask Americans why social security, fire departments, and the police should be free public services but not higher education and healthcare. The brainwashing is so effective that even the very people who are most susceptible to getting buried under student loan debt or healthcare costs will argue against it. Any activist who wants to change things will also have to fight the very people who would most benefit from a change. It's insane.
You miss the part where they tell you “Go Move there then.” If you are actually one of the non-Brainwashed Americans. Or better yet, “They can only afford that stuff because we protect them with our Military “
Waiting times: A hot topic Weeks of waiting time for publicly insured people in Germany remain a hot topic in Germany, also because private patients (private Krankenversicherung) often get appointments faster. "Sicknesses do not depend on the favoured opening times of the established physicians,” Johann Magnus von Stackelberg, vice president of the GKV board, told DPA in December. He added that “more and more people” are going to the emergency rooms of hospitals because they are unable to secure a doctor’s appointment.
Ran You should see me in Timcast and Subverse comment sections. My original comment for this vid was basically mocking CNBC for always saying that universal healthcare is better than the US.
@UC87wKtbekEBspg9Df1atx2g I just saw a comment from someone with private insurance who waits 2 months to see their doctor. I live in Canada and can usually see my doctor the same day and have never had any problems with wait time. When i broke my arm it was put in a cast the same day and i got my first physio 2 weeks later. I ALSO PAID NOTHING, this would cost you $2500 in the US. SAD. You are either stupid or a shill. You are arguing for a system that is less efficient and costs more.
@Chris Pink Germany has so many immigrants though ? I mean my parents are mostly russian(small part german and something else) and came to germany to live here...
@Chris Pink I do not belive its an ethnical thing. I mean Germany is prolly as multicultural as the US herself todays. We do have other attitudes towards "unity" in a sense. I for myself care about the ppl that live around me. i have US friends (florida) and they dont even know their neighbours nor care about them in any way. Its just hella diffrent.
@Chris Pink The difference is as follows: Germans dont rly care where you are from or which ethnic group you belong to, as long as you learn/know german and share the values that make you german. The entire heritage thing seems to be wayyy more important over in north america.
Even as a US conservative, I wish we had universal healthcare here. I’ve read a lot of about various systems around the world and they all seem to work way better than what we’ve got here in the US. I’ve avoided doctors my whole life because of the cost. That’s not a healthy way to live. From what I understand too, it would cost much less per person to switch to a European-style system, largely because there’s less overhead due to not having all the medical billing personnel needed that we have now.
AFAIK you already pay 13% for MediCare. Shared with your employer, ending up being 6.5% each. On top of that you have to pay for your private health insurance. My premium here in Europe is 15%, also shared with my employer. Wait times? Not a problem. Dental and mental care included. Ambulance included, if it was an emergency. If not, you may end up paying 300 Euro. Biggest threat to our system: american funds buying into the hospital system, trying to get money out of it.
come to munich, call a doctor, say you have second-rate public insurance and see how well you get treated....or not! then you understand our great german health care system!
8:50 when asked "what's the biggest problem with your health System?" Of course waiting time is not the biggest problem in the US system. The biggest actual problem with the German system is that rich people don't have to pay a fair share. Instead they can opt out.
As a german watching this gives me a big discomfort. As a asthma patient i don't know how i would have done it so easily in America than i am doing it here. Paying now 5€ per box with 2 sprays in it. Even if i would need cortisone. As a kid where i had big problems with asthma i payed almost nothing. I am even in some programs and tests (some checkups) i can do for free. I mean, sure i have to give some of my salary (its always notable) for the insurence. But on the other hand, it doesnt matter what happens, i am covered. i can hauskeeping with my money and don't have any fears, even if you are a very poor student that you dont get medical help or medicine. You just get it. We have still a lot of problems, but sorry to say, i would never live in america if i see that. I know that i am somebody who needed und will still need medical apointments in my live. I don't know how you guys are doings it. Makes me very sad!
@@nooneaskedbutimstillhere439 Ist das der Verein der Asthmatiker? xD. Hab auch Asthma und bei mir hat die AOK damals sogar noch den Pariboy gezahlt yeeet.
@@zli2760 haha und du bist geistig nicht auf einem Level das eine Person haben sollte bevor sie über oben genannt Themen reden sollte und sich darüber lustig machen sollte.
“There’s a lot of bureaucracy going on”... I live in Germany and they live by bureaucracy. Everything here requires lots of paperwork and I don’t mind, I have SHI and I love it.
Liselot Ramirez Also, for normal kinds of issues like the flu, getting vaccinations, orthopedics etc there is not much bureaucracy at all. Only for more complex stuff like surgery or if you become unable to work for more that a few months etc. They make it sound like we are overwhelmed by paper work. We are not!
You scan your ID and take a seat. In the US I am still filling out paper forms when the doctor is already done with my child. Bills & reimbursements takes 1-3 hours a month.
@@untergehermuc I never had a big accident or surgery, so it's mostly related to repayment claims. For example my SHI grants me 90€ for my 165€ Yoga class or pays 40€ of the 80€ it costs to get my teeth cleaned once a year. I scan in the receipts and upload it on their website. Other than that I rarely have interacted with them. When I became unemployed for a couple of months I needed to fill out a one page questionnaire explaining my situation. But for day-to-day doctor's visits you have an ID card that you show at the doctor's office before your visit and that's it.
It doesn't matter where you are born. Either way, we all have to work on a better system. Germany isn't perfect. Neither is the rest of the world. Progress prevents us from reaching perfection. But everybody should atleast thrive towards it. If you're unsatisfied, try to make it better. *:)*
@@jalapenopepper3282 Well, you have a vote. And the best way to get votes or you confining people to vote for someone are good arguments and reasoning. I know it is frustrating. But one has to start somewhere.
I am German and had a life threatening accident. I spent 4 months in 3 hospitals, had 16 surgeries and then spent more than 1.5 years in recovery. Treatment costs in excess of way over 1.5 million euros. I need to take expensive medicine ever since. How much did I pay? Zero.
I am also German! So I paid for you? ;-) God to have you alive brother! All the best!
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@@mgm3rt Keiner wird zurückgelassen!
@@cerebralcaustic thats the money they are willing to pay for a better society
while in murica, good luck going bankrupt after going to the hospital
@@cerebralcaustic our social system (the Netherlands) in europa is 100x better than USA, true not perfect, but way better than getto's in USA.
so i prefer to pay taxes than greed.
we're a tiny country but no seaport in USA matches Rotterdam. 25 miles(42KM) or so wide.
When you go to an hospital in Germany they want a card from you but it's not a credit card. That's the difference
And if u forgot your card u can Show your ID card instead
The hospitals here are private, they don't belong to the government. So everyone fights for money. As you see, we have two different health insurances, one by the government and one that is private. So everyone will be treaten in the hospital, but if your health insurance is by the government you have to sit and wait a long time, while the ones that have a private health insurance comes always first. Even you already sit there for hours.
Also if you have a private health insurance the hospitals offer you more treatments for you condition. Some useful ones and some that also can cause health problems. They heal you till you are sick, because the hospitals makes money that way.
I am sure you didn't know that and maybe you don't believe it also. But I had to say it. I am German and I lived in hospitals for the last 3 years, in and out for the last years. First I had a knee joint break, then I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.
@@Stylomagic Yeah for sure there are problems with the german system, but it is far better than the American system and it would probably be better to eliminate the private health insurance and reduce the numbers of insurance companies to reduce burecracy and prefertial treatment. The silver lightning is that at least no private-insured citizen comes first, if you treatment is urgent. Urgency tops everything. But this weird pain you feel in your elbow? Good luck getting an appointment with an orthopedist within the next 4 months if your are public-insured. If you are private-insured please come in tomorrow.
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@@Stylomagic
How much did that time cost you?
In the US people have to PAY, your treatment is for free.
Being german I can‘t imagine what it must be like to think about money before calling for an ambulance. That’s totally nuts.
How must that sound for people in the US?
I can call an ambulance, no problem, but I can't afford a taxi.
Not that I need a taxi with our public transportation system.
In the US, if you are required to use an ambulance to get to a hospital, but fail to notify the insurance company of your hospitalization (because you're unconscious, or on an operating table), the insurance company might make you pay for the ambulance. What a joke!
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo bruh, you make it sound so expensive, while you side is clearky more expensive. how is anyone gonna justify 2700 just like that, thats insane. And also 135 is a lot of money for some people and the fact, that you had to pay that just sounds pretty rediculous to most germans.
@@jonas162 It doesn't only sound ridiculous. It IS ridiculous... :)
If it hadn't been mentioned I still wouldn't know "how much it is" to call an ambulance.
In the last four decades I haven't received a single medical bill for basic or emergency treatment here in Germany.
That's what I call a "quality health insurance system" - a reliable, income-based" universal health care system for everyone without having to worry about the costs AT ALL!
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo bruh, just because you only needed help once in such a long time doesnt mean, that that is true for every othe person, also there of cause is a difference between habing to pay a large sum of money on the spot and paying it over a long pefiod of time. if i would have to pay up 2.7k on the spot i would be more than just broke, i would have to sell everything i own basically. lastly, how are you gonna say in your first comment that you dont think every german is as "ignorant" but proceed to asume that i mwant to trivialize your totally valid point of view, whis is something you do not do at all in your first comment, which is inpolite. Aduming, that i would answer with what you wrote down is honestly realyy insulting and does not belong in a discussion even if its on the internet.
In America people think about money before calling an ambulance.
In Germany it is a crime (unterlassene Hilfeleistung) to not call an ambulance for someone in need.
Same goes for the Netherlands.
@@Brozius2512 netherlands 🤝germany
In Denmark as well
Same goes for Italy... I mean every 1st world country pretty much agrees on ambulance rides being free or really close to that and therefore prosecutes citizens that refuse to call for an ambulance whenever needed, the fact that this isn’t the norm everywhere is mind boggling
Yep Italy also. If you see someone in dire need of help and walk away it's actual a crime. I saw someone getting hit by a car. I called immediately and followed their instructions.
When America creates an award-winning tv show about an underpaid teacher cooking meth to pay medical bills, that says it all
When a little country like the Netherlands sells the US tv programs like Big Brother, Fear Factor, Deal or No Deal, The Voice.
Breaking Bad 😂 good point
well, it's good that they do. In places with no freedom of speech you won't even see that.
@@i-am-art Believe me.. in germany there is much more freedom of speech then america ever had.
I see so many people getting arrested for no reason. Is that what your so called freedom of speech is about?
@@bongsilla8109 examples of political persecution?
Germany : Healthcare
*America : Wealthcare*
Dont forget corporate welfare
@@creyes4182 Precisely .... in 2018 in the US corporate america paid 7% of total IRS actual tax receipts whereas individuals paid 93% of actual tax receipts. If one can say with a straight fact that corporate america only uses 7% of total government goods and services ... then I have a Bernie Madoff investment winner to sell to you. The US income tax system needs to be totally overhauled to be rational. logical, and to eliminate the massive tax preferences and gaping holes in it. A little twist here and a little new tax there just won't do it. The whole income tax system has to be completely overhauled. And it would not be all that difficult to do that along the lines of a few basic principles.
Lol 😂
I'll take wealthcare!
Gabrielle be we have better things like private insurance and free healthcare means that anything non essential you wait to go to doctors hospitals.
Also Germany:
- 30 days of payed vacation a year
- Not getting fired if you call in sick
also Germany:
- top income tax rate of 42% on 51,900 Euro (that's US $57,100 which has a 12% to 22% income tax rate)
- 19% VAT on most purchases, 7% on food and a few other categories. top sales tax in the US is about 9.5%
- one of the lowest home ownership rates in the developed world
@@cerebralcaustic Even with higher taxes Germany has cheaper healthcare, cheaper childcare, and cheaper college costs, and paid family leave. Also has lower infant mortality and happier population. Taxes aren't the end of the world.
Nobody in the US gets fired if they call in sick. That's illegal in most states.
Thirty days of vacation (it's actually five weeks, or 25 days, btw) are useless if you don't have enough money to travel or do something for entertainment.
@Mirza Ahmed Most of our entertainment is actually way cheaper than in the US because everything which can be considered "cultural" or "educational" has a lower tax and state support keeps ticket prices affordable. And you do know that Germans are kind of infamous for being big travellers, right? But even if you spend the paid vacation at home, it is still a gift to be able to spend time with your family and recharge.
here in saudi... As an immigrant we can have 45 days of paid leave two or three times per year😁
"One country"? Almost all European countries do have a more or less similar healthcare system like Germany. America is the ONE without.
Not rly. I mean most have some form of universal coverage but the german system keeps insurance companies while many other countries don't
not in all countries in Europe you can elect your doctor and not in all you can get a second meaning.
@Oskar Villani, UK's health model is almost the polar opposite of Germany's. UK's NHS involves government-sponsored insurance, government-sponsored hospitals, and government-sponsored healthcare workforce plus a private sector outside the NHS. Germany has private health insurance with some state subsidies, private hospitals, and private workforce. The two models vary widely not just in structure but also in terms of costs and satisfaction. Most European countries fall on a spectrum between one of these two major models. What they all DO share in common is universal coverage.
@@rutvin8763 @Emil Sinclair no, about 70% of all Germans are insured with public insurance, as in not for profit insurance providers, which often stem from large union workers associations. These are basically if you would have several UK "NHS" providers that you can choose from, not compareable to the private insurance companies in the US.
@@NeverEverClever ...I know that I am from germany. But this does not change the fact that we can choose our insurances.
As a German I think it’s funny to hear Americans saying “we give Americans freedom to chose”. I have my insurance (which I can change whenever I want and it takes minutes to do so) and I have the freedom to go to the doctor when I want, where I want etc.
Also they forgot to mention the medicines. For all the essential medicines, if they cost until 99€, I only pay five. All medicines over 100€ we pay 10€.
I don’t know any German who is against this system. Everyone is happy. The ones who pay and never use are happy, I mean, who wants to be sick? But they still have the peace of mind that, if something goes wrong, they won’t die for not being able to afford. And people who are sick are also able to afford it.
I think for a rich country it is the minimum.
We did something wrong when we privatised nursing/elderly care and hospitals tho. We shouldn't have done that. It's really bad as you may know.
Our system is not perfect. And it's a good thing to complain, so it gets better again.
its actually 10% of the medicines price but never less than 5€ (ok there are a few exceptions) and never more than 10€. Also this is limited at 2% of your income or 1% if you chronically sick
"I have the freedom to go to the doctor when I want, where I want etc." - haha, good luck getting a Termin at a decent doctor :D Waiting 2-3 months is not that uncommon. I recently got a Termin for which I have to wait 5 months! And then doctors barely spend 5 minutes with you - most of them try to kick you out as soon as you get into their office. They get only a few euros for every patient, so they try to get as much patients as possible through the day without taking care of them.
"For all the essential medicines, if they cost until 99€, I only pay five". You only pay 5 when you get a "rezept" from a doctor, and he might not always give it to you. And bunch of drugs/medicine are not covered by medical insurance, like some basic anti-cold/anti-flu stuff.
I'm sick of those fairy tales about how good German medicine is.
Kirill well yeah appointments with specialists can take time, that’s true. But that’s mostly an issue of a lack of personnel. Das liegt daran, dass s zu wenig Studienplätze für Medizin gibt. And it’s also got to do with having the phi (zwei-Klassen-system) which I think should be abolished.
I totally agree that it’s not perfect. But I’ve never waited more than four weeks being in the shi and overall I’m quite happy. One things for sure: the American system is not an alternative.
German with a Brazilian name! Rsrsrs
Two things that should never be treated as business : education and healthcare
...and yet many Americans end up bankrupt due to student loans and hospital bills :(
Ikr
Yeah. Let's pay for all the philosophy majors.
Your forgot transport
Add policing and fire fighting to that
The best part actually is: You call in sick, visit a doctor and he will put you off work for some time. You will receive your full wage while you recover.
I could not live calmly in the US. I would have constant anxiety over every stomach ache or sports injury, that could turn out to be the end of life as I know it. I pity everyone of those poor souls who think taking an existential risk like this over a couple dollars more in taxes is worth it.
Sworlay They’d rather be homeless than implement any “socialist” ideas.
Wait. You guys don't get paid when you're sick?
How do you pay your medical bills then?
Not completly right. After 6 weeks you get sick pay from your health insurance which is just 60% of your net income.
Same in my country, except we have a certain amount of sick days instead we can use.
Fun fact, here in Germany in political discussion if we want a negative example for health care in 99-100% of cases we point to the US in horror
Ich stell mir das so herrlich vor.
"WIR SOLLTEN ES PRIVATATISIEREN!"
*zeigt auf Amerika*
"EGAL VERGISS WAS ICH GESAGT HABE"
@@kariissmol9172 Genau, das ist ein ungerechtes Schrottsystem.
@@kariissmol9172 ich bekomme starke Friedrich Merz Vibes
@@p3chv0gel22 Da fällt mir das Hauptargument von Merz Fans ein: AbEr Er IsT kOmPeTeNt 😂
Exactly😂
America needs to realize that not everything is a business
Everything is a business when most professionals agree that it is. You won't find too many doctors in the states willing to see most patients unless they can pay. You understand what the problem is?
I understand, even as a leftists in America, all companies need some kind of profit to keep running..but to what end?...we can control profit and also need to clean up Washington so we can negotiate with drug companies.
@@DarkMustard1337 as a leftist you'd know that not everything is a private corporation. Public goods are for all - public, not private. Health care and other infrastructure should never be private. It just creates huge amounts of inequality and suffering.
@@glorymanheretosleep If everybody is forced to have insurance the doctor knows that he will be paid for sure. What's the problem?
@@f_f_f_8142 Because a lot of doctors, in the states, prefer to treat those they deem worthy...
USA: We can choose wether or not we have a health insurance. We are FREE!!!
Germany: We have health insurance for everyone. We are ALIVE!
You nailed it. Thumbs up! :)
No, in USA you can choose if you want to be insured, in Germany, you are forced to pay a large amount monthly to your insurance company.
@@cdefgah4343 yes, and if you really get sick, you are being treated without getting a bill that is impossible to pay. You can always go to a doctor without fear because you simply cannot afford it no matter how old you are or what your medical history is. It's not perfect but it is better than many other Healthcare systems.
@@cdefgah4343 its about 7% of your income, that's close to nothing if u think about the fact that you will end up in hospital or at a doctor at least once a year. I bet as an american you pay roughly around 10x your income if u have a serious problem. or you can't afford medication at all if u got an ongoing sickness
@@cdefgah4343 You nailed it.
I prefer to "live" in the German system and stay alive than "enjoy a false freedom" and die because I get laid off, lose my health insurance and can't afford a treatment - or don't have a health insurance at all.
After all universal (obligatory) health care is one of the great traditions here in Germany.
Everyone is insured, even housewives and kids for free in single income households, students, umemployed, refugees, retired people, etc.
The German healthcare system is miles ahead... I mean kilometers
Underrated comment. Made my day.
Hah
"The German healthcare system is miles ahead..."
The metric system too :-D
Only Kilometer not Kilometers . Grüße aus Deutschland .
@@Andreh-pg7nw nein Bruder ich glaube zu Wissen dass die Mehrzahl auf Englisch "kilometers" ist, ich könnte aber auch Irren!
The next time I hear any American go "but that's socialsim!" - remember, this was all implemented in 1883 by Otto von Bismarck, a freaking ultra-conservative monarchist and Prussian statesman, who was the first German chancellor in the consitutional monarchy that was founded in 1872/71.
All this information does not make a differencem because there are differences in believes, that prevent a real debate from happening. Kind regards.
if you want socialised healthcare, then you get together with like minded people and form your own self funded healthcare cooperative. just leave the folks you want out of your socialized system alone, dont tax us for it, we will decide what we want, you decide what you want. Freedom baby, Freedom!
He introduced this as a way of increasing the public opinion of the goverment as it was done in a time with much unrest coming from the working class, it was not like he loved these ideas, rather it was to keep the people happy.
@@dave8599 You know that is a perfectly fine attitude for a country like america, which has no culture, tradition or team spirit, but the thing about Germany is that people actually want that everyone in Germany can live a life without existencial crisis, hence people in Germany get help from the state
@@dave8599 and then you are sad because you are living in constant fear. That is the American way. Feardom.
I was diagnosed with stage 3 colon cancer 5 weeks ago. I had my surgery to remove the cancer and ill start a 6 months chemotherapy in 2 weeks. All of this costs me 0,00$ - Thx Germany
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@@vanessahummer5032 This is solidarity. One for all and all for one
Ich wünsche dir alles Gute für deine Behandlung! :)
Breaking Bad - German Edition
Doctor: Mr White, I have serious news for you: You have cancer, Your treatment starts next week.
Walter: Thank you.
THE END.
What is the normal plot? Does he search another method bcs he has no money or something like that?
unplayednamer 01 well he kind of becomes a drug lord 😅
@@unplayednamer0165 wait, you mean to tell us you havent watched Breaking Bad YET????
unplayednamer 01 In Breaking Bad, Walter White is a high school chemistry teacher who also has a second job at a car wash. He’s diagnosed with lung cancer. His salary barely makes ends meet so he turns to manufacturing and selling drugs in order to pay for his treatment and secure his family’s future. It’s a really good show, I highly recommend it. And don’t worry, I didn’t spoil too much, there’s a lot that happens in that show.
unplayednamer 01 In Breaking Bad, Walter White is a high school chemistry teacher who also has a second job at a car wash. He’s diagnosed with lung cancer. His salary barely makes ends meet so he turns to manufacturing and selling drugs in order to pay for his treatment and secure his family’s future. It’s a really good show, I highly recommend it. And don’t worry, I didn’t spoil too much, there’s a lot that happens in that show.
As a German I am willing to pay my taxes for a funtioning society.
A functioning society requires solidarity.
Rim pak
Is it solidarity when you donate 200$ - 400$ a month to people on gofundme ?
It’s the same amount of money to give away without the work the sick person / their family has to put in in order to set up a page like that.
I also think that being sick is a very private and emotional thing that people shouldn’t have to make public on those pages.
When you’re sick, you should rest and not worry. That’s why paying that is solidarity
@@amirboutabaa9028 You´re not forced to pay anything. You are free to leave if you don´t want to be a part of society.
and each citicen needs a functioning society
Rim pak well then let’s call it contribution, which is needed in a system that protects the weak.
@@amirboutabaa9028 Of course it is. Not having laws in place to ensure that everyone pays their fair share in taxes is anarchy.
In America, you have a whole lot of people saying "I don't want to pay for someone else's health care." What a lovely attitude.
That's pretty much the definition of an anti-social attitude.
No thats the ruggend Individualism, If you are sick and or die or become homeless there is No Others reason than "ya Had or coming" "sucks to be that lazy" ist sickening
Dont people already do that in America?
Just imagine if they would think the same about the fire brigade or the police. "I don't want to pay for others to use the fire brigade when their house is on fire"
What strikes me every time, is the fact that they end up paying much, much more in the end. Just for the warm, fuzzy, heart-warming feeling that you get knowing others live in misery and die from avoidable afflictions due to lacking health care.
Dank sei Bismarck, dass er die Versicherung eingeführt hat
Bismarck ist vor langer Zeit gesunken eines Tages werde ich auch dorthin abtauchen zum Wrack
@@jimcameron1234 haha
Dank sei den sozialistischen Politikern und Aktivisten die die damalige Regierung erfolgreich unter Druck gesetzt haben.
@@julemay8405 Hau sie mit den Fakten, Jule ☺️
@@julemay8405 Damals waren die Sozialdemokraten noch für etwas gut
When you have people who have to start a GoFundMe to pay for their medical bills, you have a problem, America.
or when people rather take an uber than an ambulance because of affordability. In fact, my sister had a seizure and when she came to she refused to get in the ambulance because she had someone to drive her even though it put her life at risk (the seizure was related to a severe blood infection). She choose to go with some one unqualified because she couldn't pay for something else.
People need to get their bands up 😂☝️
People just dont get it in the United States ..worthless...brainwashed
@@zriyazira That sounds utterly terrible. What good is the healthcare system when people are afraid to fully use it?
@@KljajicAjdin calm down al Qaeda
Europeans: Don't call the ambulance, it isn't necessary and I am OK.
Americans: Don't call the ambulance, I don't have that much money.
Wait what? They have to pay the ambulance?
Teflon offical yeah i think calling the ambulance in america does cost money
@@alman8908 yeah around 4-5k dollar if i remember
@@midnighteclipsed2738 it was $2500(average costs at least)
@@guy8806 ah thanks for the correction, that still a lot. It's 25mill RP in my currency, good thing our ambulance service is free
I live here in Germany and I'm American, I love the insurance that I have here. I wish for friends and family members in America could have as good a system !
When I was little I had best experience in Germany especially their health Care system but I had to move back to the US Because my family are in the military but hope to return soon
You need to teach them the difference between a social system and socialism. We don't have socialism.
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@@davidpreston7819 hi I'm from Virginia, so yup country girl! 😀
@@mommakittydragon8926 Are you fully American?
I'm a Polish American, Mum from Lublin Poland while my dad an American. I was born here in the States but was raised in Poland by my Aunt who is married to an East Indian and I do speak English Fluently though I have an accent not so sure if you really like it but most people do. So don't know if you mind accent??
Im 20 i was diagnosed with cancer and i didnt pay a single penny for my treatment i had operation im driven by taxi every week 2,5 hours to the clinic i get chemo, radiotion and medication. Thank you God for living in this great country. God bless Germany 🇩🇪
Get well soon! Take care!
Get well soon - from a cancer survivor.
@German Retro Guy danke hatte meine letzte chemo vor 4 wochen im, april habe ich dann verlaufskontrolle, bin eigentlich schon krebsfrei
@@yylaminator schön zu hören.
Bleib stark 😄
@@yylaminator Bleib gesund!
I was born in and lived in the U.S. with a couple of relatively short exceptions for 40 years. I have lived in Germany for the past 7. Even as a reasonably wealthy person with employer provided insurance, healthcare in the U.S. was a hot mess. While it took me a while to adapt to the bureaucracy (which is still substantially less than in the U.S.), I vastly prefer the system here in Germany. Anybody who says that the U.S. has the best healthcare in the world is either lying or has no idea what they are talking about.
Thanks that at least one American has a brain in this comment section! 👍
Welcome in germany i hope you get treated fairly...
Ja deutschland ist gut :)
Hal A couple of things. Health insurance in Germany is not free. I pay my insurance company every month, and in most cases employers still pay for health insurance as an employment benefit. The difference is that the cost in Germany is based on ability to pay. Second, now that the economy in the US is going down the crapper and unemployment is approaching Great Depression levels, good luck keeping your employer-provided insurance. Your comment demonstrates that a) you obviously have no idea how the German system works and b) you have no idea that you are one layoff away from being well and truly screwed yourself - although I suspect that you will happily die of neglect as your health care is not a right. I may pay more taxes in Germany, but I also get a LOT more in return (better schools, better roads, better social safety net in case of disaster, better public safety, etc.). That‘s not getting screwed by government. That‘s called getting what you pay for.
@@petergeyer7584 Well said! 👍👍👍
Now, with the corona Situation America can see again how miserable their capitalistic heath care system is.
seba psst, it is a Secret, but the german system is also based on capitalism and it works pretty well. 🤫
@@sabundus590 it’s only about 25% private and 75% socialized. I don’t care if it’s private or socialized but in America we need universal healthcare for all.
@@sabundus590 well... it's a social economy that lends from capitalism. And the more healthcare gets privatized the worse it's becoming. We are still better off than most european countries, but it has been getting worse for years now.
@Germanic Pride hau ab
@@Jelissei better of than some european countries? doubt it
I was visiting my sister in the US in 2019. We were watching TV and what hit me most was that almost 80% of all commercials were for various private health insurance providers. That's insane to me.
Yeah instead of paying for people's health treatments they are paying ad companies to make commercials and buying sports stadiums.
So true. Prescription drug commercials. People laughing and just having a great time in slow motion. Meanwhile the side effect disclaimer is longer than the ad itself! We'd be a 'Socialist' country if those ads were banned. Yeah, 'we the people'.
@@losttwo704 Yeah! For drugs that fall under the _"Betäubungsmittelgesetz" (narcotics law)_ here in Germany. Commercials for Percocet, a highly addictive opioid _(the same class as heroin f.e.),_ seemed insane to me. Oh! And commercials for lawyers. There's nothing really bad about it. It's just illegal here. We also don't have that culture of civil lawsuit. Which is often laughed about here, but I actually think it's a great thing to hold people or companies accountable for their wrongdoings. Just the sums that courts often come up with seem to be out of proportion. But it's a very good thing that people that were imprisoned for something they didn't do, get millions of dollars for compensation. Here in Germany you get what you would have missed in income during that time, plus 75€ for everyday. To me this sounds like a bad joke. Since you'll never get your stolen time back, you should at least be giving a large amount of money directly and a lifelong pension.
How about the insane amount of money Pharma pays to put prescription drug commercials on TV? You know the prescriptions we just can’t buy without our doctors’ permission. Drugs we know nothing about.
Really because 80% of ads is just temy for me
German in the Titel means germans overtake the Kommentarbereich.
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documentary intended for: americans
documentary watched by: germans
in America: What Germany can learn from America
watched by: Americans
Thats true.....i am German and watch this 😅
I seriously wanted to know about it lmao
Not my fault when UA-cam recommends an English video about our health care xD
Was willst machen - kams ruff hab i ruff gekliggert
Wir können halt den größten Müll labern, niemand kann uns verstehen xD
I’m American living in Germany. Everything is so much better in the economy, meds are incredibly cheaper.
HomeOfTheGallaghers Could you please Tell that to everybody living here? Ím a pharmacist in germany and everybody complains, that our meds are too expensive
@@hydraulixx people just need to ask for a cheaper version of what their doctor prescribed. I always do that and can't complain.
@44444 777 mainly unusual/ uncommon meds and not prescribed ones, if you have to pay its a small part of the med, my sister had cancer and her meds cost about 2 million and we barely paid anything for it, insurance did like 99,999%
@44444 777 i only know that like medial weed doesnt get paid by insurance
@44444 777 when did this turn into a competition :D
I am German, living in the US. My mom lives in Germany and was found to have early stage breast cancer, she needed a lumpectomy, was in the hospital for one week, after that she went through Chemotherapy, needed meds for pain and nausea, then follow up visits with her surgeon, gyn and family doctor; she was offered counselling and a dietary consultant but felt she did not need either. Out of pocket expense: 25 Euros, which as I understand it was a mandatory contribution towards food in the hospital with the argument that people would spend money for their food if they were at home. (apparently the food was not bad)
She is right now hiking in the German alps.
Same thing happens in the US: she would be in personal bankruptcy and me, my sister and brother would be responsible to pay down her debt for the rest of our lives.
"911, will you be paying with cash or card today?"
They likely won't take cash. I had an appointment yesterday and the "physician" would not accept cash or a check, only credit cards. This is a new trend in the U.S. that will further prevent the lower, working, and middle classes from receiving healthcare. In addition, the credit card companies can become richer.
@@HeathWatts but I guess there's no way to hide that money from taxes
How much does an ambulance cost in The USA ?
@ what the actuall f
@ I did some reading after Kristen asked her question and $1500 seems like a bargain. Others have paid as much as $3000 for an ambulance ride. Ambulance services should be paid for with tax money, like all healthcare, and should be free.
Imagine people still saying America is the greatest country in the world lmao look at the gun law or health care
Lol how about look at the obese and people with so many health problems and still want free health care while shoving fries and burgers down their face. Visit any other country and im sure you would starve
@@xenonoah america is still trash
America is a "Bananen Republik".
Banana Republic.
I compare the US with Brasil, Italy, Spain, Congo or Ruanda...
I mean every failure-country around the world. A State full of idiots and jerks.
America was and will never be the "best" country in the World. Only they do is hyping their military so they start more wars for business. Americans only want $. If the Earth want to be healthy then we should shut down murica. Biggest terrorist country in world :/
@@Kiwionair that's funny because the world wants america to cut out the wars, but they flip out when they cut their money from the scheme of things. kinda hypocritical huh? im not saying it was a good move to cut from the WHO, im just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. the world just wants their money
I still cant wrap my head around the fact that you guys have to pay for an ambulance. This is absurd.
In Switzerland we also pay for this. Price depends on the Kanton, where I live one ride is around 800 Swiss Franks. 😎
We have to pay too, butjust not as much as in the USA
In Germany you also have to pay for an ambulance but in almost every case your insurance will cover this up. Once I black out because of to much alcohol and I hade to pay for my ride into the hispital ;P.
In Germany you also pay for the ambulance, depending on how many people are involved it will cost you 350-600€. Your insurance just pays for it and most people never see any bill.
@@florianthomas7852 wir mussten glaube ich 5 Euro zahlen xD
One of the best parts:
"Children covered for free" means "Children" under the age of 25. Or 26 when they completed a year in a voluntary public work program after school (which is not uncommon).
Yes, out of my 27 years, i only had to pay 1 year in Health insurance :)
So welcome to your 1 year of adulthood?!... XD
I am 26 and I think my insurance is still for free because till next year I am still a student.
No such thing as "free" healthcare.
@@drzerogi free at the point of service healthcare most certainly exists. In fact it exists in every developed nation except the US.
@@SillyhAsH What, is "paying for healthcare" your "adulthood" threshold? Not legal age for marriage or drinking, or the legality and ability to sign contracts, vote, open a business, etc?
Just paying for your own healthcare?
That's weird.
Right now in this pandemic, it turns out which country has done its homework.
Germany is trash in so many ways but it lets you alive with his healthcare system. So you can feel the pain in your ass even longer. I love it 👍. Realy im proud of our healthcare
@@little_lord_tam u love the pain in ur ass? Thats awesome for you. But hey: why do u have to tell us this here?!
@@little_lord_tam
I think the same about the US. Indeed without exeption. Trash in all ways. Im so glad not to live in America. A Banana Republic. And by the way, please enjoy your "asspain" silently.
@@little_lord_tam Your videos are showing that your'e a weirdo.
So that comment matches your weirdo personality pretty good;}
Germany is battling the virus great even some patients getting treated from other countries. America is getting benched, sorry but if you can’t even see now how bad your healthcare is then you‘re lost
Funny how the System was established by a conservative royalist and americans Call it socialist 😂
Well he established it due to the pressure from the social democrats. At this time they could achieve something, but today they are pretty useless.
@@Jan10181 Ain't that the truth :(
...and he introduced it to prevent the Social Party from getting too many votes.
@@PeTer-xd8nx yeah, he wanted to keep the workers quiet by "gifting" them that. He wanted to do specific things that the SPD demanded to make them unimportant and weaken the workermovement. The Goal was to prevent a Revolution like in the Soviet Union.
So Trump may be the person who introduces healthcare for all, maybe just to get reelected :D
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When I go to a doctor here in Germany. I give someone the card from my Krankenkasse and its all done. I don't even see bills or have to call with the Krankenkasse to get something approved. Hope more people around the world can have this luxury in the future
Yes, having a card that also grants access to all your previous medical history is extremely nice Julian. I've had chronic kidney stones since I was 13 & have had over 60 in my lifetime. If I go to an American ER for brutal kidney stone pain, I'm not f*cking around & would prefer some immediate help. Instead I have to prove to the Dr. on duty I'm actually in pain through lab tests. These tests can take at least 45MINS & sometimes I've even waited 2-3HRS. All of this while they "figure out" if I'm really hurting or just a dope fiend looking for his next fix. The indifference is really deplorable for someone in my position!
Lucky you, bin privat versichert, habe aber keine Karte, weil meine Versicherung das nicht hat, sehe jede Rechnung. Für jede Rechnung brauche ich 30 min für die Abrechnung. Und da ich viele körperliche Probleme habe, gehe ich im Schnitt alle 1-2 Wochen zum Artzt. Der Luxus sei dir aber gegönnt.
@@venezstudios8135 alles hat seine vor und Nachteile. Du musst deine Abrechnung selber machen, ich kann nicht zu jedem Arzt gehen und warte oft länger um einen Termin zu bekommen. 🤷♂️
@Tho Mas well to go with your link we are on place 25. the us is in the 30th.
We may don’t have the top 1% of doctors but here not just the top 1% can go to a doctor without thinking about the monetary consequences.
Its like in every other field in the us. You have a small minority who can do whatever they like, make as much money as they like and rule the country.
Here everyone can get great healthcare, get every degree of education and become whatever they choose.
The us is antiquated in its way of running a society and government.
I hope the US will someday loose its status as a 3. would country and become a social place to offer a great live for everyone
@Tho Mas also there are many more Statistical factors like infant mortality
(ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality-igme)
Germany: 0.37
US: 0.66
Or healthy lifeyears
(www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Germany/United-States/Health/Life-expectancy)
Germany: 70.2 years
US: 67.6 years
I can go on and on and on
When my American husband had to go to a dentist here in Germany and asked me how much they charge for pulling a tooth?
I couldn't stop laughing.
Das kommt darauf an. Einfach ein Zahn ziehen; dass dann ich mir kaum vorstellen. Der Zahnarzt wird versuchen suchen,wenn möglich den Zahn irgendwie zu retten. Und dann kann es schonmal dazu kommen, dass du was dazu zahlen musst. Und das ist manchmal nicht gerade wenig.
I'm surprised he had to ask. I would have assumed he would just start a fight with someone.
New Zealand needs to learn from Germany about that too. We have mostly public healthcare but for some reason someone decided that teeth aren’t part of your body or something.
I'm at the TK. They have an app in which I can see exactly how much they paid for what
YOU just walks in and who pays the bills?!
"I hope I can afford the trip to the hospital..."
Is this some sort of american joke that I'm too german to understand?
I am Italian and I find it impossible to understand too.
And 99,99% of the world population will say the same.
The USA are a very unfortunate exception. The rest of the planet has public health.
@@emiquetzalkoala4288 Now thats just plain wrong, things get worse the literal second you leave europe, arguably it already gets worse with the sinking infrastructure standards the further you go east.
@@slyseal2091 I'm sorry but that's a lie. Many European countries have astonishing infrastructure.
@@emiquetzalkoala4288 An Ambulance ride can cost you $2000 in America. Some people use an uber because they can't afford the ambulance.
@@slyseal2091 According to my personal experiences things are slightly different. Yes, there are countries where infrastructures and organization leave much to be desired. But not all non-European countries. And not all Eastern European countries.
But the main point is that a poor or underdeveloped country has a good excuse to have a far-from-perfect health system: some countries are just unable to provide quality treatment, but all countries, inclulding the poorest ones, offer treatment for free to their citizens, and many also offer free treatment to foreigners, because health is a basic, primary human right. They offer what they can, and ask nothing in return.
The USA, the most powerful and one of the richest countries on Earth has simply no excuse. They could offer the best treatment to anyone, still they choose to "sell" this human right to whom can afford to pay for it.
I don't mean to sound insulting, but this
approach to people's health is simply inhumane.
Another interesting detail is the total lack of reciprocity: if an American citizen breaks an arm during a holiday in Rome, he is treated for free. If an Italian citizen breaks an arm in the USA, he'll be told that he's on his own, unless he can pay for the treatment. How unfair is it?
Germany: *has a proper healthcare system*
Americans: "ThIs iS sOciAlSm!!!111"
And FREE to dring in bublic
@@Ohmeingottichhabeesa In America is Public Drinking allowed? Tf
It was introduced by Bismark as a way of taking the wind out of the socialists sails. Ironic, huh?
@@phosphordiester7545 yeah because bismarcks politic was very similar to the other aristocrats. the normal people suffer a lot 🤷🏻♂️ and the reforms of bismarcks were not that good. after years the system became the good basics🤷🏻♂️
Not sure if a waiting period of 12 weeks for an appointment with a specialist can be considered "proper healthcare system".
I used to be against Universal Healthcare but after living in Germany I’m all for it, I’d rather pay taxes knowing where it goes as opposed to being extorted by Insurance Companies, Hospitals, and Big Pharma
Are there people in Europe that live unhealthy and end up reaping the benefits that everyone else paid for?
@@ccshredder9506 Of course, there are always people that take advantage of a system but I rather have that then seeing people going bankrupt due to insane high healthcare costs.
@@ccshredder9506 they also exist in the usa lol called billionares
@@ccshredder9506 I mean what are you going to do about it? No one's going around thinking they can do whatever because of universal healthcare. The example here's always obesity but the US has much more obese people. There are also motorbikers, skateboarders, fireworks enthusiasts and many other groups of people that are quite prone to injury. Would you deny these people healthcare because they "had it coming"? To me helping sick people is just common sense.
@@cyan_oxy6734 not when you're stuck wondering who's responsibility it is to take care of every sick person. In a perfect world, everyone would pitch in, but they don't. So much for that. So how do you offer health care in a reasonable fashion, where it doesn't cost anything and no one is forced to do it?
The USA is a corporation that tolerates citizens.
sure.........
What did II Duce say about the merger of state and corporate power?
Yes, because we have citizens that don't bother to vote- it has been estimated that there are between 60 to 100 million people who are eligible to vote but choose not to, ignorant and apathetic- "I don't know and I don't care." The 1% of the United Corporation of America have all the power because the masses choose NOT to use theirs
Neofeudalism
It tolerate only if the citizen can work...
i’m only here to push my german ego
Eat more ham burgers and sausages, the Germans will become bankrupt, free health care is evil. USA USA USA 🇺🇸
buzz Why should we eat our fellows from Hamburg?! 😱😱
buzz have you checked the debt-to-GDP ration of Germany and compared it to the US?
@@buzz5695 lol
Same Digga 😂
I am a German physician (oncologist) with also experience in the American system and this video is very accurate. In summary, I really like the German healthcare system, because I had never to put down any patient for being uninsured. The medicine is excellent and especially in a serious area like oncology, all people, no matter if publicly or privately insured, get the best oncology treatment available. This is very fair and social.
It is true that German publicly insured patients have to wait longer for some procedures, but this is never true for emergencies and I count cancer in as an emergency. Generally, they have to wait longer for an appointment e. g. at an orthopedic or dermatologist, but this is never health-threatening. If you have something serious like heart attack, stroke, cancer, there is absolutely the same quality for different insurances.
"I had never to put down any patient for being uninsured"
You might want to rephrase that. :)
B-but Ben Stefan Molyneux told me he had to wait a decade for his cancer surgery.
I'm being sarcastic, of course. Not about him lying about wait times, but about me taking him seriously :)
@@skaarphy5797 ha-ha, German English. love it
Skaarphy 😂😂😂🙈
As a fellow citizens: thank you for your service!
German PhD‘s are the American equivalent of the US soldiers!
In America they have Health-Caren‘t System.
Health Karen System?
Or am I hallucinating?
@@Yeentenology I want to speak to your Chefarzt.
No, America has death care, not health care.
What a tragedy! I know.
If my mom wasn't german and thus had access to german healthcare, she would be dead.
I can't believe there's a country that claims it's the best one in the world while its citizens can't go to a Hospital because they simply can't afford it. America what is going on
@@brandonderosa8451 well youre still stuck with the debt afterwards, thats the point
Fact .
It's not only the health care system.... Their education system is just as bad... Imagine paying thousands of dollars just for university.... It's horrible... And if you're unlucky you get shot...
@@therobbersdaughter2700 The math you guys learn in the third year is taught during the first semester in Germany.
@@jaysun8942"You guys" what do you mean?
Germany in the title:
*Das ist nun deutsches Staatsgebiet*
Edit: Ich bin Österreicher🥸
Hahah lustig wie wir deutsche diesen Kommentar Bereich übernommen haben
Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein Kommentarbereich!
Bedeckt halten.
So wie Malle im Sommer??
@@ihatetheantichrist7207 voll neuer joke eigentlich
It might not be perfect in Germany, but it sure is better than in the US
In fairness that is a low bar to jump.
I would be dead without this system
Have you been to both? Experienced both?
I have the same sentiments, our National Health Service in the UK is not perfect but the Brits would never swap it for the current US system, I do hope Americans don't believe the lies and vote for Berni.
kate s I have experienced both. If you are poor is better in Germany. Just hope you don’t need a diagnosis fast or your child needs long time care. If you can afford American health care then the care is better
"they think its normal"
Yea, because it is :D
i pay some € every month to ensure i neither die nor go bankrupt by a papercut, like it should be in every developed country in the world. The american system is just barbaric.
Because big corporations rule the US with an iron fist.
Americans: Our health-care system is in a state of crisis
Also Americans: omg universal healthcare is sOciAliSm
What's wrong with socialism and why do americans think it's bad?
@Working Prole they still didn't get over that yet?
@@irene1024 Hey 'Murika' is now a Oligarchy (bought/paidfortheRICH only) .sooooo It worked out int the end didn't it?
Americans are all about branding, as stupid as that is. I propose that every time some dumba** says socialism bad! (despite Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid) that we rebrand with a vengeance with AMES. Americans for a More Equitable Society! We have aims (get it) to fix healthcare and other social ills in our society.
Because they are brainwashed.
To everyone saying that healtcare in Germany isn’t free because you pay taxes.
I was in the hospital in life threatening conditions three times before i turned 18, before i even started paying taxes myself. Now that i’m 18, and thankfully alive, I will happily pay taxes to give back to the system that saved my life, and to help others who need care. If i lived in America i’m sure my parents would have gone bankrupt trying to keep me alive.
Liv Guttesen YOU eat propaganda everyday for breakfast lunch and dinner .
@@martinko4086 are you stupid or a troll.. or both?
martinko40 Found the american
martinko40 WTF dude, what propaganda? He literally just said what happened to him and his family and how the system works.
TGPZ_DE he is talking about himself. Americans feast on propaganda more than their cancer inducing burgers
Out of my three kids, we had our first in Germany when I was stationed there. It was by far the best hospital experience we've had. This myth of "choice" is just a myth.
Direct Yo Feetza it’s the choice and freedom to screw yourself basically
Oh goodie Blue Cross Blue Shield can choose to assign me insanely high premiums and copays, while denying me coverage if I go out of state or a different doctor. Thank goodness for all this choice!
@Nspnspker This is changing though. More and more doctors only take privately insured patients. I had a skin infection emergency, I couldn't see the dermatologist closest to me, but had to go to another one, taking an extra bus.
thaliasghost Insured patients in the US always have to watch out that the provider (doctor) is listed by their insurance as „in network“. So the „extra bus“ is a given here.
Nspnspker choice is a hoax, as he said.
I just wanna add: it is no choice in case of not being able to afford the doctor’s visit, the mental stress on those who have no idea if they will drown in debts after getting emergency care is life threatening. Just as the diagnosis itself maybe....
As a Foreign doctor just arriving to Germany in order to homologate my title, I think I made the right choice :)
Thank you for coming here.
If you intend to help people, yepp, you came to the right country.
But assuming you will make huge amounts of money here is probably a pipe dream. Yeah, you will lead a fairly secure financial life, with quite some benefits, but nowhere to what American doctors will recieve.
Note, I did not say 'earn' because that they would mean they are entitled to it due to the amount or quality of work they put in, especially in comparisson to international doctors around the world.
I hope you're enjoying your stay. ☺
@@RustyDust101 You still get a LOT of money as a doctor. I know what you mean though. Compared to the US it's not that much
I got that you are a doctor in Germany. Can I ask something to you? What do you think about being pyhsician in Germany? Being Germany or being US for working? Which is the best? I'm completely undecided 😊
You absolutely did! Do you like it here? Hope you have a good time 😁👍
I'm a French citizen who is living in Austria, and it is nearly the same whole around Europe...! Maybe you should copy this system instead of making profit from sickness...!!!
And we have some of the highest rated of depression and teenage suicide in the world here. My pychologist makes 10x more money than my dad and he went to med school and grad school (he has an m.d and p.h.d)
Salut Samy. Peux-je demander ou t'habite en Autriche. Moi, j'habite aussi en Autriche, à Vienne. J'apprends le français à l'école. C'est pourquoi je parle français un peu. J'espère que tu me reponds.
@@yeehaw693 hallo also ich bin in Bad Vöslau zuhause und muß dir zu deinem hervorragenden französisch gratulieren, franchement tu m'a étonné en lisant ton mot, je me suis dit que c'est vraiment très bien écrit, si la vocabulaire est aussi très bien t'a vraiment un très bon dons d'être polyglotte...! 👍
Ja, ich lebe mit größeren Unterbrechungen seit 81 in Österreich, und würde dir gerne anbieten wenn du möchtest das wir mal Kontakt aufnehmen um eventuell mal richtig zu plaudern oder wenn du bei deinem Französisch Hilfe benötigst würdest würde ich dir gerne helfen, meine Verlobte kommt dieses Jahr noch von Paris, definitiv nach Österreich und Sie muß wiederum Deutsch ziemlich von 0 auf lernen..! Aber das werden wir schon hinbekommen,..! Schreib mir ob du interessiert wärst und ich würde dir meine Mail schicken..!
À bientôt l'ami ! Reste en bonne santé.
S. K.
@@samykhiari2822 Oui, Samy, je suis intéressé. Le truc c'est juste, que j'utilise pas vraiment mon email. Si tu veux, tu peux m'envoyer ta adresse quand même, mais vraiment pour moi, le meilleur manière de communiquer en ligne, c'est Discord. Je sais pas si tu connais. En tout cas tu peux me donner ton email, just pour maintenant. Encore, j'espère que tu reponds. Et, merci pour m'avoir répondu si vite le premièr fois.
The sick are too much of an easy target for the capitalist to walk away from, easy money honey.
You know how breaking bad would have turned out in Germany? Yeah, one episode, no meth.
lol
Germany also has meth problem
@@purplefabian in the sense, nobody would be forced to sell meth to afford health care
@@purplefabian no Germany does not have a big meth problem!!!
@@purplefabian r/woooooooosh
To the Americans that say "I want my freedom etc." when selecting health care: You have way more freedom when you and your family don't need to worry about getting sick/having an accident/being able to pay for cancer treatment :)
true Words
or diabetes
Exactly. Safety is the first thing needed for freedom
UA-cam knows me too good.
Last week, I was curious and asked my insurance about how much money they paid for me since late 2015. Yesterday the mail arrived with a summary. It was roughly 65.000€.
And guess what? I only pay like ~600€ a month which means I paid like 36.000€ in that time.
And now I see this video :D
Man, I love our system. And I am glad people support each other. Now, being fit, I pay my share with pride. Someone needs it now :)
Dude, when I was still covered with health insurance via my father (also Germany o.c.) I had to go to a specialized hospital for treatment. It was private, therefore we got bills, but we just redirected those to the insurance. The cost came out as roughly 70000€, not counting therapy afterwards. And I havent paid a dime for almost all of my life to health insurance.
@@janhuber3708 Long story short:
Thank god, we are not from the US :D
@Tho Mas Stop spamming this everywhere. Of course it isn't the best, but atleast you won't go bankrupt because of medical bills. According to the source you quoted, Germany hast the 25th best healthcare system which is not really middle-class.
The bill after surgery: 30€ ...
for the room.
And that's all.
A migrane cost more in the US.
The bill after surgery in the UK: £0.00
@@1chish Yet I heard from a British guy that although NHS is cheaper, the capacity is low. So if you fall ill in the UK while it's not life threatening, you will have to wait quite a while to get treated.
@@ThatSilentGuy That is partially true. 'Capacity' isn't low as you describe it as in normal times the NHS cares for anyone who needs care when they need it. OK go to A&E with a busted finger and you may wait a couple of hours if there is a stream of major accident victims needing priority. An hour after pubs close and the fighters appear A&E is 'challenging' but you WILL get treated and cared for.
Longer waits are for non urgent surgery and for what is called 'elective surgery'. If your well being is in any way in danger you get treated.
The Pandemic has shown how flexible the NHS has been (with 7 new emergency hospitals built in a few weeks) but this has pushed some waiting lists out as capacity is taken with this very dangerous virus.
Whatever happens no one leaves hospital or a doctor's surgery with a bill.
@Karl Marx 'Bruh' no it hasn't. Between 7% and 22% of the NHS budget goes to 'Private Providers' depending on how that term is defined. The upper figure includes GPs and Pharmacies which are all private businesses or partnerships but that was always the case right from 1948. Without those it is about 9%.
@@1chish same in Spain
Imagine losing your job, because of an pandemic. And losing your health insurance for losing your job during a pandemic.
DirtyP2002 unbelievable for Europeans and many Asians citizens
But I guess you find the sulution for everything at Gunpoint.
If you dont pay for healthcare you lose it in Germany as well. You either pay with parts of your income and its deducted from your paycheck without anything you can do. If you lose your job and you are broke, you can get Medicare or Medicaid in the US.
DirtyP … not in Germany. Pandemic doesn´t equal losing your insurance when you lose your job.
thats just how being a gun loving idiot plays out for u guys
German talks to an American:
German: Imagine paying for health or Education
You still have to pay for those things
@@dewisselspeler9080 yes the rich pay high taxes so the poor also have free healthcare
Jack Lan *free at the point of use because it shouldn’t be the size of your wallet that decides whether you’re healthy and it shouldn’t be the size of your parents’ wallet that decides whether you receive an education.
@@jacklan4103 Yes, first and foremost they are. I never paid a penny into health insurance or for my university degree. And I'm 23.
@@dewisselspeler9080 thats what taxes are for
I recently needed to take my daughter to urgent care and emergency room for an acute illness. Even though I have a good insurance from my employer, the opaque costs and not knowing what would be covered added to the stress. And that kind of situation wasn't the time to comparison shop or think clearly regarding which tests to decline. Their incentive is to sell you as many services as possible. It's madness. America deserves a better system.
I spent a night in a hospital in Germany, got my blood tested, had a MRI and done some other tests done on me. Two weeks later I get a bill. What did I have to pay? 10€.
The 10 Euro are for bed and meal, btw, not for the tests themselves.
10€/day for staying in the hospital. But it is not alowed to charge you for more than 20 days / year. (There are even some rules, that some people don't have to pay for a single day)
@@yannikm.7741 yep max cost is 280€ a month
Damn, in America it'd be broken down like this:
Hospital overnight : $1500.00 (on average)
Blood testing: $20 (depending on insurance and if they cover the test, of not it could be up to $800
MRI: $400 (depending on insurance)
We don't get a heads up on if insurance will cover us or not. We have to ask in advance and make sure. I had a mole checked for cancer last year, $40 office visit but the lab wasn't in network and charged me $900 - that bill is unpaid.
That's insane and awesome.
8:07 "Germany's health-care system is not perfect". That's true but it is still 1000 times better than the u.s. system.
you re right
*sarcasm* 1000 x 0 is still 0
Tbf, almost every modern healthcare system is better than the USAs'.
C. rose you really don’t. And what use would it be, when people can’t afford to pay for their services?
Can we also talk about how calling an ambulance costs about 2k in the US? That sounds insane from a german/european perspective!
Yes it sounds insane, its completely free here in germany, also if you need a emergency doctor or a helicopter.
Bruh wtf? What if they need a helicopter? 10k?
Wow 2k for an ambulance? No thanks i rather walk or drive myself..
I'm shocked right now wtf
Serious? Expensive, I live in SEA Country, our government request company to cover all employees personal accident insurance and most companies cover their employees medical insurances as well. Some ppl buy their own insurance too in case the company insurance coverage is not sufficient.
I'm from South Africa and we may not be the most advanced in medicine but at least it's free and accessible people in the US have it hard
The USA is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd world country at the same time, which is trying to be 2 countries, who are at war with one another.
Die Klausi refugees are hardly taking anyone’s jobs. The language barrier makes that near impossible. Besides the ones that are working are taking the jobs that most people don’t want to do.
you said it prefect...
“Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.” ~ first article of the German constitution
Israel is violating the human rights of Palestinians for years!
The constitution of Germany was written AFTER WW 2 by the way...!
You are a hypocrite!
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo This article was created after WW2. Read it up, it was created especially as a memory and roadstop to the past.
Thor Boysen nobody seems to be willing to educate you so I’ll do the job. Israel is a different, independent country. Wow!!! I know! Mindblowing! And you know what that means? The German constitution doesn’t apply to Israel. It only applies to Germany. Crazy how the internet can teach you.
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo Deleted your first comment?
@@thorboysen3318 guess what, Israel is not a part of Germany
The best thing about German health care is: You can call an ambulance anytime when you feel it is necessary without fearing to be bankrupt afterwards. It costs at maximum 10€ and rest is covered by the health insurance. Even if they send a helicopter (which they sometimes do in remote areas or if it is really urgent), you still pay 10€ maximum...
Ye same with da police
Kleine Verbesserung :D : Der Rettungshubschrauber fliegt genauso wie die Bodenteams zur Einsatzstelle, heißt er kommt auch einfach oft wenn nichts anderes in der Nähe ist oder der Transport schneller, bzw. schonender ist. Also heißt er kommt nicht immer nur dann wenn jemand zerstückelt wurde :D.
@@ccalmanii5225 Es werden sehr oft Hubschrauber einfach benutzt weil man sie grad da hat. Wenn sie nicht benutzt werden sind die komplett ineffizient was die kosten angeht deshalb werden sie auch öfter als theoretisch notwendig benutzt.
Man kann auch nen ganzen Preis kassieren wenn man aus Spaß anruft...
@@xaverbernard3727 Ja aber das ist dann verdient
As an american who has been living in Germany for almost 10 years, I can't even compare the two systems. German system is compassionate, reasonable, and highly effective. American system is, in comparison, socially barbaric and effectively not all that (yes, even and especially in terms of treatment, not even considering cost!)
And regarding wait times, I have never had to wait for more than two weeks for an appointment with a specialist (in Munich). I had a quasi-elective surgery in 2018 that took 6 weeks from first visit with the surgeon to completion, and that included two weeks of annual christmas "shutdown" for things non-essential. I had a necessary surgery in the US and it took 5 months. I just have never had this experience of long wait times in Munich. Maybe I'm special :)
YEP - if you're chronically ill in the American system, it really is cruel & unusual punishment Lisa. The insurance companies would rather have you die than to pay out huge claims on treatments & medications. They just deny everything your Dr. wants to try once you start costing them too much $. It totally blows the minds of all my German friends when I tell them these things.
I wouldn't agree on the "highly effective" if we're talking monetary efficiency.
There's a lot we could handle better in that regard.
But if we compare it to the American system, that's "Heulen auf hohem Niveau," as we say ;)
Hello Lisa, how're you doing, I hope you are doing fine. I'm David from Houston, Texas. Where are you from? You seems like a real Country girl😊🌹
Regarding wait times it can be a different story in smaller cities and rural areas. I have had doctors telling me I would have to wait several months for an appointment, but the thing is, you are free to choose your doctor. If one doctors office tells you that you would have to wait really long, just go on google, find another one in your area and call them.
I called a specialist last Friday, they told me the earliest free appointment would be in early December, so I told them "no thanks" called another one and already got to see the doctor today.
And if there is really no other specialist that you would need anywhere near where you live, but it is really urgent, you will get an appointment very soon even if the doctor doesn't have free slots in the near future. And for routine check ups that are not prompted by acute symptoms, but are simply prophylactic there is a simple trick and you live in an area where you usually have to wait really long for appointments, there is one simple trick: just call three months earlier.
My mom for example is supposed to get a gastroscopy every other year as a routine check up and she lives in a city where gastroenterologist do indeed have very long waiting periods, butte knows that and simply calls them 3 months in advance to get an appointment.
Boy I have to wait 4 months for an appointment at the eye doctor 😂
I'm Italian.. I don't understand the German comment but GO GUYS I'M WITH YOU!!
Ciao compatriota.
It’s a little unnerving for the rest of the world, when Italy and Germany are standing together, again.
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@Zylotese Official OH NO
rust angie
Living in Germany I didn't fell sick or needed any medical treatment for over 7 years. I was never upset or doubted to pay over 700€ per month for health insurance all along. Somehow it makes you proud to be able supporting your fellow citizens and help them recovering. Probably one day I am grateful for others doing the same for me ;)
700 euro ? Bei welcher Versicherung bist du ? Ich war ne Zeit lang bei der BBK und habe viel weniger bezahlt.
@@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
Music in Life ist vermutlich Mitglied der gesezlichen Krankenversicherung: Beitrag ist einkommensabnängig, 700 Euro ist schon eher die obere Einkommensgrenze. Der Betrag ist NUR von Beitragssatz und Einkommen abhängig, nicht von Alter oder Gesundheitsdaten. Familenmitglieder kostenfrei mitversichert.
Du bist privat versichert bei der Bayerische Beamtenkasse AG (BBK): Beitrag richtet sich nach Vertrag und Deinen Gesundheitsdaten. Familienmitglieder müssen extra versichert werden, Beiträge können im Alter und Krankheitsverlauf steigen in der privaten Krankenversicherung!
Kann man so nicht direkt vergleichen, alles hat Vor- und Nachteile.
America: "We give Americans the right to choose."
American Health Insurance: "No, you have to take Dr. A! We don't support Dr. B."
Germany: "You MUST have health insurance! It's the law of the land!"
German Health Insurance: "Take whatever certified physician you want and need."
Also Germany: "We NEED more physicians in rural areas!"
Bavaria: "Let's give financial aid to all medical students who want to open shop in understaffed rural areas!"
Obama: "You have the right to keep your doctor PERIOD!" Reality: You have to have what the government provided Obama misspoke or you misheard that is after he toured all 57 US states.
@@kylehill3643 57?
@@kylehill3643 57??
The hell? Oi Canada and Mexico, counts your territory!!!!
@@hypnotoad28 Yes, 57! ua-cam.com/video/EpGH02DtIws/v-deo.html
@@Monaleenian Uhm, I'm not an American but it is so obvious what he meant saying "fifty....seven". He visited 47 states, one more to go = 48, staff did not allow him to visit Hawaii and Alaska = 50. I read some of the comments there and I start to understand how a large portion of American voters can be tricked into voting against their own interests... like a good and affordable healthcare system for themselves.
Most of the EU countries have similar health care systems, not just 'one country'. Let's not get it wrong here. The USA is the sick country here (pun intended). Civilized countries don't make businesses out of their education and healthcare systems at the expense of their own people. Those two things are the bedrock of a society and say everything you need to know about the country along with the prison system and animal welfare. The USA fails on every front.
For real. Makes me wanna leave the USA badly.
Tja, it is almost true. This so-called "freedom" has its price! So never go to the States without a private insurance in your luggage!
Also one of the best things about German healthcare: psychotherapy is free. This is so important 🙏
It's not "free", we all pay for our health insurance with every paycheck. You also don't just get therapy, you are evaluated, if it is decided you can apply for therapy it is a fixed number of hours.
@@thaliasghost Es kostet aber nicht extra, darauf wollte der Kommentar denke ich hinaus
and painting class?
it's "free" if you have a psychiatric diagnosis (ICD 10 - F ). if you just want to "talk", or your psychologist has no aproval from the insurence compandy, you have to pay yourself!
It's mostly free, but the waiting times for psychotherapy are especially long. Much much more than the usual healthcare, more than 1 year often times, which is ridiculous.
But still better than in the US I guess
I am German and I can only say, that the German Health Care System has saved my life. As a 19 year old I had a car accident and broke my neck. I survived due to the quick and professional response of an ambulance crew and of course the doctors in Hospital. Remember Fight Club? The Bartender after „Tyler“ revealed his true Identity? This Bartender had something called a „Halo-Fixateur“. I had one of these screwed to my head-bone for a couple of weeks. And all this therapie was free for me thanks to my normal insurance. Not to mention the physical therapie after the wounds were healed. This year (I am 46 now) I had a shoulder surgery. No bill. The only thing, I have to give a little for, is for the physical therapy. 60 Euros for TEN of 40 Minutes therapy.
Right Americans call this system „Socialist“. That is dumbfuck! It saves lives. When I even feel not well - I could go free to any Doctor I want. I don’t do so - but I could. Teeth‘s are another topic. Normal treatment is free, but if you need some new parts - well - that is not free and (the parts) can cost you a lot. But the implanting will not be charged. Only the parts. But still we do not talk about 10 Grand.
I think free check-ups whenever you want them is a crucial part of the German system.
I know enough people in the American system who won't go to the doctor unless they absolutely have to, because they feel it takes away money from their family.
So, any problem you have, you're likely to discover it later rather than sooner, giving a minor problem time to grow into a big one.
Actually, the Insurer give you part of what you need for "the parts" provided that you went to your yearly checkup with your dentist without fail.
Oh, it is absolutely socialist and introduced to fight Socialists and yet, Germany is among the strongest economic countries in the world.
It's not the spice that makes the dish, it makes the right combination of spices.
@@grayscribe1342 Social Democrats are NOT Socialists. There is a difference. The main difference being that Socialists basically want state control in everything (not to confuse with communists, who want the workers own the result of their work), while Social Democrat just want social and democratic policies. German healthcare is not socialist because it is NOT provided by the state, it is just heavily regulated by it. For a socialist Healthcare system, you need to look at France or the former eastern block states. Social Democrats don't have an issue with Capitalism in itself as long as it is softened by social policies, Socialists do and Communists are completely against it.
@@swanpride I know, I just wanted to keep it simple for some people and give them something that does not fit into their 'it's bad, because the word socialist is in it' mindset ;-)
I as a refugee came to Germany. At first I had no Job didn't know the language but still was insured and wasn't denied any health related care. Now for my health Insurance, I pay half from my work and the other half is paid by my employer. The system is not perfect but far better than most developed countries.
@Someone Andnoone Oh come on man, don't be like that (I still loled though).
@Someone Andnoone Yeah. And his English is better than yours as well…
Refugees Welcome. Schön, dass du da bist und integriert bist.
@@moos5221 That's the spirit
@Someone Andnoone shook* and don't be an ass, thx
i appreciate that this is delivered in a relatively unbiased manner and focused mostly on delivering facts/information
In the US, private companies have substantial control over the government, they influence everything from college tuition, to insurance, to military conflict abroad.
Says Dan Torrino, who obviously knows nothing about Europe.
"You will notice that where the state is large, people at the top tend to have little downward mobility-in such places as France, the state is chummy with large corporations and protects their executives and shareholders from experiencing such descent; it even encourages their ascent." Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Skin in the Game (2017)
Not different here. The only reason why the healthcare system has not been overthrown is because it was fixed after the war in the constitution and hence is effectively unchangeable. We have a lot of people in powerful positions who would want to change it against the law and against the will of the majority. If they could they would achieve this by lobbyism.
@@marapaprr4930 Id say most european countrys have a healthy enuff Democracy to prevent that. Still lobbyism takes place to a massive extent in Germany aswell. Difference being most germans arent as easily influenced in elections. We have less of a personality cult compared to the US. Maybe due to bad history with personality cults here ;)
I honestly can't believe that in the US it is cheaper to get an assault rifle than calling an ambulance...
Kamil S Pathetic, really? So u think that everyone fights for themself is better?
@Kamil S US understanding of a proper healthcare is pathetic. Funny how a governmental healthcare like in germany or in scandinavia works perfectly fine but somehow not in the US. Your understanding of "healthcare" is that it is equal to capitalism which is terribly wrong and you and your government fail to understand that
@Kamil S still somehow we manage to make ambulance affordable and ban guns. whos the crazy one now?
@Kamil S Lmao,it works better then in the US
@Kamil S well yes they might not grow on trees but if you don't charge them couple 100k for daring to go to medical school they might grow a bit faster
I live in germany, got a call the other day - it was my insurance company just asking how I'm doing during these hard times.
Nothing else, just a friendly guy being like "How are you doing? Is it alright if we check in with you atleast once a year?"
He added "You can always call us, if you have questions about your insurance or anything health related."
@@vanillal3919 Ich bin bei der Techniker und hatte auch schon solche Anrufe. Die sind echt super nett und hilfreich
@@Alterraboo
Ja, die TK ist so nett und hilfreich,, daß sie einer 86-jährigen Verwandten nach einer Hirnblutung den Pflegegrad aberkannt haben.
I lived in Berlin 10 years and have no complaints of the health care I received, and only the best!
In Croatia, a tourist got into an accident while hiking and when she was rescued she started worrying about the bill since the HGSS (Croatian mountain rescue service) got involved and stuff. I believe she cried and then asked what is it gonna cost. She was VERY relieved when she found out that it was all free.
I'm Croatian and life in Germany both country's have a great health system
I once had a broken tooth in Serbia. I had to pay the dentist something like 50 euros (which was incredibly cheap for a 45 minute operation), but my insurance back home covered all the costs.
Many Croatian doctors use the same card system as in Germany. Iam cro-German. So we are also covered in our vacation there. But I am sure this is in the whole EU area.
@brandon Le in Germany you don't pay. Idiot
Was the tourist American?
during the Corona Pandemic I realized how blessed I am to be in Germany with my family. I hope my Family in Kosovo,the US and UK will make it through.
Kastriot Krasniqi Same , I‘m albanian too
You are welcome.
Yeah the UK gov is not doing a great job... But at least a lot of people are furloughed if they can't work. That's the one positive we have over the US
Salut en Canada! 🇨🇦
Hello in Canada! 🇨🇦
@Wet vegetables It has done brilliantly during the crisis.
When my father had an injury, we were in Alaska for fishing and he had a hook throuhg his hand, he had real pain. In the hospital they did not ask what happened or how he feels, the first question was: Cash or Credit card?
I love America and the americans are nice people, but im happy living in Germany!
I had an accident in a country far away from home. Got airlifted to a nearby hospital. Emergency care. Comatose for 2 weeks. Driven back home by ambulance (a 12-hour one-way ride). Rehabilitation for 6 months and then slowly reintegrating back to work, where the job I had still existed and I was not fired.
Cost: nothing. Insurances and social security took care of everything including my salary and travel to and from rehab. I'm pretty sure people from the USA would be screwed over with "oh, that was out of network, it's not insured" and other nonsense, making them go bankrupt, without a job, thus without insurance, and finally homeless.
Our doctors still make a ton of money. There are no waiting lists. Everybody pays a mandated health care insurance. And because everybody does, it's cheap. And it covers EVERYTHING.
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German system looks after people American system looks after the shareholders
@@georgebishop4941 he didn't say anything of that matter nor is the video about germany, it's rather about showing a working alternative to the US healthcare system.
Your comment comes around a bit butthurt
@@georgebishop4941 I would rather be sick in Germany than In America ,there's a chance I would survive with most of my assets intact
George Bishop yeah, but Germany shows that you can have public healthcare and 100% affordable coverage without being "forced into one insurance" which the US-Americans are so afraid of. We still have a competitive system with freedom of choice. Because of that Germany might not have the best healthcare system in Europe, but one that could work in the US, because people there are still afraid of the socialist boogeyman.
@@georgebishop4941 But far better than the american one.
@@georgebishop4941 actually Germany is something Special regarding insurance. It's not the cheapest but Germany had some of the best medical coverage/medical services in the world.
I work in the German healthcare system and one thing I would change is that SHI should be mandatory for all, PHI only as an add on (single room, head of department treatment, alternative treatments...).
The SHI is the best thing Germany ever invented. It is what makes Germany a great place to live.
Thats the system we have in Austria... public insurance is mandatory, private insurance with extra "luxury" is an add on.
I heard you cannot choose between different SHI, it depends on the state you are living in. Is that right?
@@untergehermuc only partially. you can freely choose between any SHI that has a branch in the state you live/ work in. so, with a few exceptions, that's basically all of them.
Dan
Ah, ok. I heard in a transalpine podcast from ZEIT that in Austria you cannot choose as freely as in Germany. But maybe the guy was just stupid ;)
I don’t find the logic in your statement?
In Lithuania for e.g. moms get fully paid maternity leave 2 months before childbirth and 1 year after and in the second baby year of life 80% of salary, and new fathers get four weeks fully paid leave in addition :)
Paid what. You making cents. I make here more without even working 😂
Imagine being told since birth that your country is the greatest, best, most fantastic place on Earth! Then imagine hearing that another country has something better than yours:
"They must be taxing them to hell"
"The quality isn't as good as ours though."
"Their country is full of lazy people who want handouts!"
This is inevitably what every "discussion" alluding to America being deficient in something leads to. The other countries look in confusion as they watch a country keep shooting itself in the foot and claiming it doesn't hurt. "In fact, this hole in my foot is beautiful, american, and patriotic! You all just don't understand our greatness!"
They still think theirs is “the greatest country on Earth“... fools!
@@TheLeaveTaking Even the poorest Americans believe they are better off than the richest foreigner. They'll usually spout something off about having more freedom.
@Denise Johnson Yeah. There's always some mental gymnastics going on whenever you try to ask Americans why social security, fire departments, and the police should be free public services but not higher education and healthcare. The brainwashing is so effective that even the very people who are most susceptible to getting buried under student loan debt or healthcare costs will argue against it. Any activist who wants to change things will also have to fight the very people who would most benefit from a change. It's insane.
You miss the part where they tell you “Go Move there then.” If you are actually one of the non-Brainwashed Americans. Or better yet, “They can only afford that stuff because we protect them with our Military “
@@bradpara and if you ask "protect them from what exactly" ,they usually come up with some other nonsense.. thick as a wall these people
CNBC should do a title of a vid named: Why every 1st world country has a better healthcare system than the US.
Simple answer a lot of politicians are in bed with insurance company or were former CEO's or higher ups in said companies. Money talks bullsh*t walks.
It could be 30 second video explaining how corporations own the US Gov't.
Waiting times: A hot topic
Weeks of waiting time for publicly insured people in Germany remain a hot topic in Germany, also because private patients (private Krankenversicherung) often get appointments faster.
"Sicknesses do not depend on the favoured opening times of the established physicians,” Johann Magnus von Stackelberg, vice president of the GKV board, told DPA in December.
He added that “more and more people” are going to the emergency rooms of hospitals because they are unable to secure a doctor’s appointment.
Ran You should see me in Timcast and Subverse comment sections. My original comment for this vid was basically mocking CNBC for always saying that universal healthcare is better than the US.
@UC87wKtbekEBspg9Df1atx2g I just saw a comment from someone with private insurance who waits 2 months to see their doctor. I live in Canada and can usually see my doctor the same day and have never had any problems with wait time. When i broke my arm it was put in a cast the same day and i got my first physio 2 weeks later. I ALSO PAID NOTHING, this would cost you $2500 in the US. SAD.
You are either stupid or a shill. You are arguing for a system that is less efficient and costs more.
Most important paraphrased quote: In the US, funds exist to profit. In Germany, funds exist to keep people healthy.
@Chris Pink Germany has so many immigrants though ? I mean my parents are mostly russian(small part german and something else) and came to germany to live here...
@@ckaybit So what? The US is a country made from immigration since Columbus discovered America.
@Chris Pink I do not belive its an ethnical thing. I mean Germany is prolly as multicultural as the US herself todays. We do have other attitudes towards "unity" in a sense. I for myself care about the ppl that live around me. i have US friends (florida) and they dont even know their neighbours nor care about them in any way. Its just hella diffrent.
@Chris Pink The difference is as follows: Germans dont rly care where you are from or which ethnic group you belong to, as long as you learn/know german and share the values that make you german. The entire heritage thing seems to be wayyy more important over in north america.
@Chris Pink Since when did merkel lose anything ? She served the maximum terms of 4 (16 years) and cant be reelected next term :D
Even as a US conservative, I wish we had universal healthcare here. I’ve read a lot of about various systems around the world and they all seem to work way better than what we’ve got here in the US. I’ve avoided doctors my whole life because of the cost. That’s not a healthy way to live.
From what I understand too, it would cost much less per person to switch to a European-style system, largely because there’s less overhead due to not having all the medical billing personnel needed that we have now.
AFAIK you already pay 13% for MediCare. Shared with your employer, ending up being 6.5% each. On top of that you have to pay for your private health insurance.
My premium here in Europe is 15%, also shared with my employer.
Wait times? Not a problem.
Dental and mental care included.
Ambulance included, if it was an emergency. If not, you may end up paying 300 Euro.
Biggest threat to our system: american funds buying into the hospital system, trying to get money out of it.
Me: watching an american video to understand my own countries' health care system..
Lul, You're still alive :D I thought your channel was dead...
Lmao
come to munich, call a doctor, say you have second-rate public insurance and see how well you get treated....or not!
then you understand our great german health care system!
8:50 when asked "what's the biggest problem with your health System?" Of course waiting time is not the biggest problem in the US system. The biggest actual problem with the German system is that rich people don't have to pay a fair share. Instead they can opt out.
Haha yeah, the thing i wondered though is the 840€ figure for insurance. Mine costs less than 200 a month, so im a bit confused about that part.
As a german watching this gives me a big discomfort. As a asthma patient i don't know how i would have done it so easily in America than i am doing it here. Paying now 5€ per box with 2 sprays in it. Even if i would need cortisone. As a kid where i had big problems with asthma i payed almost nothing. I am even in some programs and tests (some checkups) i can do for free. I mean, sure i have to give some of my salary (its always notable) for the insurence. But on the other hand, it doesnt matter what happens, i am covered. i can hauskeeping with my money and don't have any fears, even if you are a very poor student that you dont get medical help or medicine. You just get it.
We have still a lot of problems, but sorry to say, i would never live in america if i see that. I know that i am somebody who needed und will still need medical apointments in my live. I don't know how you guys are doings it. Makes me very sad!
LeJulles I also have Asthma and I’m living in Germany and I habe never paid anything🤷🏻♀️
Thanks to Germany
@@nooneaskedbutimstillhere439 Ist das der Verein der Asthmatiker? xD. Hab auch Asthma und bei mir hat die AOK damals sogar noch den Pariboy gezahlt yeeet.
@@lennart6189 haha ihr seid Asthmatiker
@@lennart6189 Alles ist gut solange sie deine Krankheit benennen können. Spuck auf AOKs Füße, Rip an den gefallenen Bruder.
@@zli2760 haha und du bist geistig nicht auf einem Level das eine Person haben sollte bevor sie über oben genannt Themen reden sollte und sich darüber lustig machen sollte.
“There’s a lot of bureaucracy going on”... I live in Germany and they live by bureaucracy. Everything here requires lots of paperwork and I don’t mind, I have SHI and I love it.
Liselot Ramirez lieber man erledigt seinen Papierkram als wegen so nem scheiß frühzeitig abzukratzen
Liselot Ramirez Also, for normal kinds of issues like the flu, getting vaccinations, orthopedics etc there is not much bureaucracy at all. Only for more complex stuff like surgery or if you become unable to work for more that a few months etc.
They make it sound like we are overwhelmed by paper work. We are not!
You scan your ID and take a seat. In the US I am still filling out paper forms when the doctor is already done with my child. Bills & reimbursements takes 1-3 hours a month.
What paperwork do you have with your SHI?
@@untergehermuc I never had a big accident or surgery, so it's mostly related to repayment claims. For example my SHI grants me 90€ for my 165€ Yoga class or pays 40€ of the 80€ it costs to get my teeth cleaned once a year. I scan in the receipts and upload it on their website. Other than that I rarely have interacted with them. When I became unemployed for a couple of months I needed to fill out a one page questionnaire explaining my situation. But for day-to-day doctor's visits you have an ID card that you show at the doctor's office before your visit and that's it.
Sometimes I wish I was born in Germany or France or England. USA can learn a thing or too.
Yes. How about another language or TWO? LOL
@@SillyhAsH I'm learning German in Highschool
It doesn't matter where you are born.
Either way, we all have to work on a better system.
Germany isn't perfect. Neither is the rest of the world.
Progress prevents us from reaching perfection.
But everybody should atleast thrive towards it.
If you're unsatisfied, try to make it better.
*:)*
@@HolgerLovesMusic ain't working for me. I live in the US
@@jalapenopepper3282 Well, you have a vote.
And the best way to get votes or you confining people to vote for someone are good arguments and reasoning.
I know it is frustrating. But one has to start somewhere.