Excellent points! There's also a spontaneous/free-form energy that happens when I film on my phone vs my mirrorless. Phones feel way less formal, and I feel like it enables my raw/silly/whimsical side way more. With my mirrorless, I psychologically feel more sturdy/composed/serious, which works for some styles of shots, and not for others. I like going back and forth between the two platforms, and sometimes combining them.
If you show up to a client with a smartphone and a grip, you’ll wish you bought the mirrorless. If you take your art or work seriously you’ll never rely on a cellular phone. Having complete technical and creative control of your work ends with the phone. Looks great watching it on another phone but what about in a 65” television?
I recently gave teh phone away to my little brother but I was actually using an 11 pro max as a top down camera in the studio. I then began to think about man what if my A cam was an iPhone too. I love being able to airdrop everything. Drag to a video named folder and then import into Final Cut Pro. Honestly that workflow was when I was at my best. I have an EOS R and I think I’m going to take that back into the field. I’ve been using the Fuji for a while. Now to buy two iPhones and get this cage.
I’ve decided to buy a second iPhone, the 14, for filming and photography. Rather than spend thousands more on mirrorless. I really can’t tell the difference when I see side by side comparisons.
Just an opinion, but if one uses their phone I would recommend getting an app that allows one to change the shutter speed or shutter angle, and pick up some form of ND solution then set the shutter speed to double the frame rate or shutter angle to 180 degrees to avoid object strobing. Not trying to criticize this video, but use it as an example of the potential issue. Their are background elements in this video that jump all over the place, in particular there are telephone poles from 6:06 to 6:52 that bop all over the background, and a lot of times there is zero sense of where they were or where they are going to be. Having a bit of motion blur on them would have softened/dampened their movements.
@michael tobin I just want to state I really enjoy your videos. Shutter angle/speed is a very subjective issue for a lot of people, and ultimately the above is just my subjective opinion. The truth is that any video is better than no video at all, and one doesn't always have ND filters with them when out and about. So in those situations one must do whatever one must do to get the job done, but as a general suggestion the shutter angle/speed settings are good practice if one does have NDs with them. Again, keep up your stuff as I really enjoy your channel. =)
I was wondering why my eyes were hurting so much. I could careless of the audio issue he mentioned in the middle of his video. The jitteriness of the video (lack of motion blur as you pointed out) was more of a concern for me.
Just a thought. If you ever get slightly crunchy audio, that typically means the peeks are getting clipped a little. A lot of audio programs included declipping filters/plug-ins that, while not as good as clean audio, can often soften up that slightly crunchy sounds to the point it's near impossible to tell it from clean audio. Even the open source program Audacity has a pretty decent declipping filter/plug-in. The key difference between the free one and the premium ones is speed. Audacity can take some time to declip a long audio track, and if one doesn't have it set up perfectly the first time it can result in additional wasted time. That said if one trims out a section that is about the worst in the track and plays around with it until it sounds good then applying the same settings too the full track will often result in a much better final result. It's really amazing how well these work on crunchiness like this.
Appreciate it. Believe it or not I actually did process this through Resolved fairlight as their softclipper plug-in is pretty decent. Couple other minor tweaks made to help it as much as I could. This final video sounds quite a bit better than the original audio hana
@@initialfocus Much as I hate to admit it. I brought up Audacity because as much as I've tried to find better, it's declipper, when set up correctly, has done some amazing stuff to salvage some clipped audio I've had in the past. I was shocked the first time I tried it. The biggest issue is that Audacity is a destructive program so one must constantly duplicate a track and mute the previous edits once one is satisfied with a given effect. I think once I had to run the declipper on a small section a second time to get it to smooth out the last little bit. Still for a free program I've honestly been amazed by both it's declipper and denoiser.
I filmed as little as possible with my pocket 6K pro. Just some b roll of the phone setup itself because well I can’t really use the phone to film b roll of the phone lol I have plenty of previous videos showing the phone doing the fancy b roll. This video was about the setup itself.
Love it. Totally jumped in once PR was available. I rock mine with a beast grip cage and moment anamorphic lens. Really wanted to go with the Beastcam app over Filmic Pro as the ui is so much better, but I find the anamorphic "warps" with that app and doesn't with FP.....also FP has filmic remote. Always carry a B phone when shooting.
Just so you know about the warping issue. Beastgrip me told me when using anamorphic lenses you should turn off stabilization. Whether you’re in beastgrip or filmic turning that off with those lenses should produce much better results 👍🏼
I will never purchases Apple products again. I have personal reasons that color my opinion of them but mostly it is that I don't want to live in a gated community. Yes, they make some great equipment and software. They also charge premium prices. And they go out of there way to make it not interact with non-Apple products and software. Just my humble opinion.
Excellent points! There's also a spontaneous/free-form energy that happens when I film on my phone vs my mirrorless. Phones feel way less formal, and I feel like it enables my raw/silly/whimsical side way more. With my mirrorless, I psychologically feel more sturdy/composed/serious, which works for some styles of shots, and not for others. I like going back and forth between the two platforms, and sometimes combining them.
If you show up to a client with a smartphone and a grip, you’ll wish you bought the mirrorless. If you take your art or work seriously you’ll never rely on a cellular phone. Having complete technical and creative control of your work ends with the phone. Looks great watching it on another phone but what about in a 65” television?
It looks fine.
I recently gave teh phone away to my little brother but I was actually using an 11 pro max as a top down camera in the studio. I then began to think about man what if my A cam was an iPhone too. I love being able to airdrop everything. Drag to a video named folder and then import into Final Cut Pro. Honestly that workflow was when I was at my best. I have an EOS R and I think I’m going to take that back into the field. I’ve been using the Fuji for a while. Now to buy two iPhones and get this cage.
I’ve decided to buy a second iPhone, the 14, for filming and photography. Rather than spend thousands more on mirrorless. I really can’t tell the difference when I see side by side comparisons.
Is the pro max better than the brio for webcam functions streaming to social media
Just an opinion, but if one uses their phone I would recommend getting an app that allows one to change the shutter speed or shutter angle, and pick up some form of ND solution then set the shutter speed to double the frame rate or shutter angle to 180 degrees to avoid object strobing. Not trying to criticize this video, but use it as an example of the potential issue. Their are background elements in this video that jump all over the place, in particular there are telephone poles from 6:06 to 6:52 that bop all over the background, and a lot of times there is zero sense of where they were or where they are going to be. Having a bit of motion blur on them would have softened/dampened their movements.
@michael tobin I just want to state I really enjoy your videos. Shutter angle/speed is a very subjective issue for a lot of people, and ultimately the above is just my subjective opinion. The truth is that any video is better than no video at all, and one doesn't always have ND filters with them when out and about. So in those situations one must do whatever one must do to get the job done, but as a general suggestion the shutter angle/speed settings are good practice if one does have NDs with them. Again, keep up your stuff as I really enjoy your channel. =)
I was wondering why my eyes were hurting so much. I could careless of the audio issue he mentioned in the middle of his video. The jitteriness of the video (lack of motion blur as you pointed out) was more of a concern for me.
Just a thought. If you ever get slightly crunchy audio, that typically means the peeks are getting clipped a little. A lot of audio programs included declipping filters/plug-ins that, while not as good as clean audio, can often soften up that slightly crunchy sounds to the point it's near impossible to tell it from clean audio. Even the open source program Audacity has a pretty decent declipping filter/plug-in. The key difference between the free one and the premium ones is speed. Audacity can take some time to declip a long audio track, and if one doesn't have it set up perfectly the first time it can result in additional wasted time. That said if one trims out a section that is about the worst in the track and plays around with it until it sounds good then applying the same settings too the full track will often result in a much better final result. It's really amazing how well these work on crunchiness like this.
Appreciate it. Believe it or not I actually did process this through Resolved fairlight as their softclipper plug-in is pretty decent. Couple other minor tweaks made to help it as much as I could. This final video sounds quite a bit better than the original audio hana
@@initialfocus Much as I hate to admit it. I brought up Audacity because as much as I've tried to find better, it's declipper, when set up correctly, has done some amazing stuff to salvage some clipped audio I've had in the past. I was shocked the first time I tried it. The biggest issue is that Audacity is a destructive program so one must constantly duplicate a track and mute the previous edits once one is satisfied with a given effect. I think once I had to run the declipper on a small section a second time to get it to smooth out the last little bit. Still for a free program I've honestly been amazed by both it's declipper and denoiser.
Talks about filming with phone while all the good bits in the video are filmed by proper camera?
I filmed as little as possible with my pocket 6K pro. Just some b roll of the phone setup itself because well I can’t really use the phone to film b roll of the phone lol I have plenty of previous videos showing the phone doing the fancy b roll. This video was about the setup itself.
Love it. Totally jumped in once PR was available. I rock mine with a beast grip cage and moment anamorphic lens. Really wanted to go with the Beastcam app over Filmic Pro as the ui is so much better, but I find the anamorphic "warps" with that app and doesn't with FP.....also FP has filmic remote. Always carry a B phone when shooting.
Just so you know about the warping issue. Beastgrip me told me when using anamorphic lenses you should turn off stabilization. Whether you’re in beastgrip or filmic turning that off with those lenses should produce much better results 👍🏼
@@initialfocus Great advice thanks! When you turn off stabilisation in those 3rd party apps does that disengage apples built in stab as well?
Que tipo de lente me recomiendas para videos cinematic links por favor para el iPhone 13 pro max
I can’t believe you didn’t take B roll of the iPhone using the iPhone 😌😂
The audacity of me 🤯
Great video!
Thank you! 🙌🏼
Panasonic S5 + 20-60mm Kit-Lens. A VND and a 256GB SD-Card on top of that and you're at around or under 2000$. oO
Solid mirrorless setup right there!
bro I am waiting for the s22 ultra video are you gonna make it or not
with that dng raw motion cam app
"This is a phone so treat it as a phone." must be said by someone who cannot catch up with the time
You’re not wrong haha
iPhone for me
I will never purchases Apple products again. I have personal reasons that color my opinion of them but mostly it is that I don't want to live in a gated community. Yes, they make some great equipment and software. They also charge premium prices. And they go out of there way to make it not interact with non-Apple products and software. Just my humble opinion.
and your opinion is totally valid. The awesome thing is there’s so much amazing tech out there. Almost every reputable brand is making cool stuff 👍🏼
@@initialfocus Thanks for the quick response. Oh, by the way, I am *SUBSCRIBED!* I like your content.