Really appreciate you for bringing this to our attention. I often take my fp on long hikes and I rarely shoot clips longer than a minute. This is just perfect for me.
@@motopixelz same for me! Outside of my UA-cam talking clips, I shoot 1 to 2 minute clips at the max. So this is perfect for those shots. I am on the hunt for the drive that has better heat management that will allow to record longer
@@Ansonandco Nice. 500GB is good enough for me. Ebay link shows all of them. The packaging on your video shows 250GB on the top right though ua-cam.com/video/AP7Iy0vsQNQ/v-deo.html
Great to see your sigma FP videos bro. Always happy to see your videos. The FP will be relevant even in 2034. Not resting until I am making atleast 3 award winning films with this camera, no matter how much time it will take.
@@wkghrs on another note, there are filmmakers who are still making movies with their Sony F3s, F23s and F35s. Also they used 2006's Arri 16mm film camera on "The Wall" in 2017 🙃🤟
BTW, for those of you wondering about the Dark Power Labs caddy and SSD enclosures. I own both EVF and LCD versions and that SSD enclosure/system behaves in the same way. And yes I got his recommended Sabrent m.2 SSD. I often only get a minute of record time before it stop recording. The only reliable solution for long format 4K recording is the Samsung T5. That said the 1080 out of the FP scales incredibly well to 4K output. It looks more film like due to the "grain" and that 12 bit fidelity seems to add color resolution (best as I can articulate) to make up for that sharpness. The result makes it look like a 4K remaster of an analog film.
Interesting! I did not know that about the DPL mod. Interesting. I really need to try and upscale 1080. O realized last year that if you use the right “sharp” Lens it actually is pretty sharp and clean. That’s what I get for using vintage lenses for the first 2 years of using the fp lol
All of these videos are making me sad I got rid of my FP! My A7IV/FX3 combo though is getting me a lot more consistent work, which at the end of the day is what’s important. I did also pick up an X100VI recently for a fun camera, and it’s crazy that people marvel over its size, when technically the FP is smaller (and full frame, and can do RAW). Great stuff as always Anson!
@@Ansonandco yea one day I was messing around with DALL-E and had it create this funny little cactus, and I just thought TCM had a certain ring to it! Hoping to get back into the grind of creating here now that some other life things have settled a bit!
I tried this method. I think where you live is a big factor on the footage recording duration. I live in the Philippines where it currently reaches about 50 degrees celsius (122 degrees fahrenheit). 29.9 fps UHD 12 bit lasts about 1 minute to 1:30. 24 fps is around 2 minutes to 2:30 minutes. Added heat sinks on the sides, it lasted 3 minutes. Still great for travel videos.
I've seen this guy of AsagiMadara attempting this setup a few weeks ago, but yes he came to conclusion that heat issue and bad buffering makes this a solution only useable for very short shooting durations. In folowing videos the guy stated to have found a shortly bigger alternative, but allowing to shoot 30 minutes continuously (with the addition of a heatsink on the body of it). In case the reference can be useful for you to test it also, it is the Logitech LMD-SPDH100UC SSD. I am not able to put a hand on it for now because european SSD market is unfortunately a bit lacking of these kind of mini SSD stuff and I probably will end up to order it from Japan with a long-time delivery, but I would be very intersted to see how well it could perform. It seems to be the closest thing to the kind of minimalism I wish I could achieve for a Sigma FP rig, but with a longer time of recording.
Yeah I’ve seen that follow up. I am extremely interested in the other drive he discovered. I’m actually traveling to Japan next week and may see if I can find the Logitech drive while I’m there 🤞🏻
This is a cool idea. Hopefully they'll come out with an even more compatible model. I've been using my Crucial X9 with the FP and its been working like a champ.
I've actually been recording to ssd thumbdrive for the S5 iiiX. Works perfect and I love how it's lighter and less gear needed than mounting a full size ssd. Haven't had any issues. I'm only recording in UHD.
this is interesting. I hope the manufacturers will continue to experimenting with ssd sizes because USB-C recording via SSD is really promising. I recently bought an enclosure box with a 1/4 screw which allows me to use standard M.2 2280 SSDs mounted directly on the bottom of my G9II, or to a cage and has a very low profile recording option
How about recording in 1080p 12bit DNG? Maybe this would be a better option compared to an SD card because it's way cheaper. Great for social media short videos.
Hey man love the look of this video. I think i will pass on this drive for the Sigma Fp. Maybe later on in its development if they make a version which can both handle the heat and probably be a bit larger then I will invest.
Definitely! I should have also prefaced that I may not use it for paid gigs, but it’s great for grabbing shots that if something were to happen it would not be the end of the world
Hey Anson - quick question - does the USB adaptor block the use of the sigma camera strap lug on the left side of the EVF-11? - Thanks for all your FP content, it's a bit of a goldmine.
So whats gonna happen is it getting beyond the halfway point of overheating will wear down the "ssd" faster. Heat Expand, cool down, heat expand, cool down and so on and so on! Also cool that a glorified usb stick becomes a ssd when it gets past a certain capacity. Still a good tip and i think a lifesaver in a pinch. Forgot storage somehow or didn't bring enough. 2 of em in the back of a bag should be a no brainer.
Yeah I think if you are doing shorter clips the better. There is definitely a reason I recorded my talking portion with a Samsung t5 haha Good call out
I've seen this "sharge disk" thing online, it promises a 10GBPS sustained speed for at least 76minutes and it comes with a built in fan for cooling, did someone already tried this ? It also has a male USBC port on it so it's even more minimalist as you don't need the adapter ...
That is neat! Whooping write speed for just so tiny drive. Did you know there's also tiny Samsung MUF-256DA/APC (USB-C thumb drive)? 400MB/s read speed, although it's ~100MB/s write speed limits the available codec options. With S5IIX it creates minimal setup at least for 150Mbps LongGOP stuff 😊
@@Ansonandco Yeah, it's exactly that. Totally understandable. If only Samsung had pumped that writing speed way up, that little champ would have been success. Maybe thermals is the main limitation to nerf these small ones to more moderate speeds. Although that little Buffalo takes the speed to a new level. Thanks for pointing out that option ☺️
Of course! I’m glad I could help. Honestly yeah I loved the design of that little drive. Although I did have to shave some of the housing to fit it on the fp, but it was a great little option
the talking portion or the b roll? The camera was all the FP. The talking was the sign 24mm t1.5 cine lens and the b roll test shots was a new lens I’m not allowed to talk about yet The product shots were the sigma 50mm t1.5 and 85mm t1.5
@@Ansonandco The talking head parts. Would you say the Sigma Fp is too much for a noob? I'm looking for something where I don't have to work hard for cinematic footage...did you do any color grading for the talking head parts or is that how the footage looks straight from the camera?
I bought this ssd and it doesn't work with my sigma fp, the camera can not read it. I use it with my laptop and it is a really small ssd, but for the record it did NOT work with sigma FP.
@@Ansonandco I did format it on the laptop, the camera does not recognize it, I tried with several different adapters and still not work, I thought maybe the problem is that I bought a 500 GB ssd and not a 1TB ssd. Only thing that I can think.
It’s not that it’s heavy, it’s just the mounting and sometimes having an SSD hanging off the camera is inconvenient. Still love and use my t5 drives but it’s nice to have something else for when I don’t need my t5
I’ve been eyeing this drive to try with an iPhone 15 for ProRes 60p recording. Any chance you could test this? Do you think it would over heat as much? Thanks!
He also claims to get 30 minutes of record time on a Logitech thumb drive (also not available in the US). I copied the specs and order a similar SSD on Amazon. I also bought heat sinks to put on it. Fingers crossed…
I'm hoping that by next year, when I'll have the budget for an upgrade, that Sigma will pull the trigger on a new Sigma fp ii. 14 stops of dynamic range, rotating screen, full frame foveon sensor, open gate recording, full size HDMI port, log (yes, actually log), and very wishful thinking here... wireless monitoring through a tablet or phone with an app.
I would not turn down these features. as long as they keep the image quality. similar to the s1h to the s5iix, you can throw specs at a camera, but lose it's magic. I prefer the magic over specs tbh. but fingers crossed!
There is no denying the magic of the fp. Even if a mark 2 doesn't come out anytime soon, the fp still has an image quality unmatched at its price point. Those specs would be icing on the cake.
Having shot a feature on the Digital Bolex now I’m considering the FP for my next feature. Really want to create a unique palette with those 4K DNG’s. Thanks to you guys 💫 @authenticLC @Ansonandco PS: I read that the Foveon Sensor is not coming out anytime soon :/
Why destroy camera functionality with this device? On the market for $200 you can buy 4 TB compact disks that fp writes to non-stop. There are plenty of compact mountings and cheap flat cables for them... The disk is in the way..., write 12-bit raw to the card while maintaining moisture protection... I don’t support it, this is degradation for the camera, it is already compact and the disk in most cases is a huge benefit, not a hindrance!
@@UriRaWell, I personally think the Samsung T5 and a lot of SSDs along with the USB-C cable cause the FP to lose some of its tiny and rectangular shaped form. You'll have to add a cage as well. I went to Japan for holiday and that was my set up. It was bulky, odd shaped and heavy. Even Sony shooters are looking at me strange. I really wished I had this Buffalo SSD and keep my cage. 30sec recording is long enough for vacation B-rolls.
@@stanleystevens6278, Why add a cage? There are three holes on the camera for mounting the disc. But in fhd you can 12 bit raw without a disk and without overheating to the internal card. Why open the USB-C port for a useless drive that will let you down with work... In addition to T5, I use two more types of disks, including 4Tb, and I haven’t thought about it in this direction for a long time. This disc also requires a replacement battery, with a small one from a wristwatch))) Sorry, I couldn't resist. But such “adjustments” to the camera contradict its use. I feel very sorry for people who don’t understand this and waste their time and money. Although you have completed your task, people will watch this video).
Hello Friend. Your channel brings together little Sigma lovers. I thought it was worth trying to influence the decisions of Sigma programmers to introduce the improvements, we dream about in the long-unannounced firmware update. Some users will probably think about the logarithmic profile first. However, what I care most about, is the recording of gyroscope data. If you made a film on this topic - our pious desires, certainly the entire FP lovers community, would be extremely grateful. Peace!
What do you all think? Would you take a chance on a drive option like this for either the SIGMA fp or LUMIX s5iix?
Really appreciate you for bringing this to our attention. I often take my fp on long hikes and I rarely shoot clips longer than a minute. This is just perfect for me.
@@motopixelz same for me! Outside of my UA-cam talking clips, I shoot 1 to 2 minute clips at the max. So this is perfect for those shots. I am on the hunt for the drive that has better heat management that will allow to record longer
I also see a 1TB and 512GB option for this on ebay. I wonder if they perform the same as the 256GB version you have.
@@motopixelz did I link to the 256? I actually have the 500gb
@@Ansonandco Nice. 500GB is good enough for me. Ebay link shows all of them. The packaging on your video shows 250GB on the top right though ua-cam.com/video/AP7Iy0vsQNQ/v-deo.html
Great to see your sigma FP videos bro. Always happy to see your videos. The FP will be relevant even in 2034. Not resting until I am making atleast 3 award winning films with this camera, no matter how much time it will take.
!remind me in 10 years
@@wkghrs surely, if the world, me, you and Anson remain 😇🤟
@@wkghrs on another note, there are filmmakers who are still making movies with their Sony F3s, F23s and F35s. Also they used 2006's Arri 16mm film camera on "The Wall" in 2017 🙃🤟
BTW, for those of you wondering about the Dark Power Labs caddy and SSD enclosures. I own both EVF and LCD versions and that SSD enclosure/system behaves in the same way. And yes I got his recommended Sabrent m.2 SSD. I often only get a minute of record time before it stop recording. The only reliable solution for long format 4K recording is the Samsung T5. That said the 1080 out of the FP scales incredibly well to 4K output. It looks more film like due to the "grain" and that 12 bit fidelity seems to add color resolution (best as I can articulate) to make up for that sharpness. The result makes it look like a 4K remaster of an analog film.
Interesting! I did not know that about the DPL mod. Interesting.
I really need to try and upscale 1080. O realized last year that if you use the right “sharp” Lens it actually is pretty sharp and clean. That’s what I get for using vintage lenses for the first 2 years of using the fp lol
All of these videos are making me sad I got rid of my FP! My A7IV/FX3 combo though is getting me a lot more consistent work, which at the end of the day is what’s important. I did also pick up an X100VI recently for a fun camera, and it’s crazy that people marvel over its size, when technically the FP is smaller (and full frame, and can do RAW). Great stuff as always Anson!
Thanks dude! I almost didn’t recognize you with the logo and name change. I’m glad the Sonys are treating you well!
@@Ansonandco yea one day I was messing around with DALL-E and had it create this funny little cactus, and I just thought TCM had a certain ring to it! Hoping to get back into the grind of creating here now that some other life things have settled a bit!
I was eyeing this little SSD also, but hearing about heat issues and instability, I will pass.
yeah I will see how it works long term, but for what I use it for, it works great so far
@@Ansonandco you should check the original content creator explaining how to add heat dissipator.
Thanks for this awesome video! This tiny SSD solution looks super interesting Sir
Thanks Ajay! It really is a cool option for the SIGMA fp. I’m glad I stumbled on it
@@Ansonandco ya its cool..You are welcome sir
I tried this method. I think where you live is a big factor on the footage recording duration. I live in the Philippines where it currently reaches about 50 degrees celsius (122 degrees fahrenheit). 29.9 fps UHD 12 bit lasts about 1 minute to 1:30. 24 fps is around 2 minutes to 2:30 minutes. Added heat sinks on the sides, it lasted 3 minutes. Still great for travel videos.
I've seen this guy of AsagiMadara attempting this setup a few weeks ago, but yes he came to conclusion that heat issue and bad buffering makes this a solution only useable for very short shooting durations. In folowing videos the guy stated to have found a shortly bigger alternative, but allowing to shoot 30 minutes continuously (with the addition of a heatsink on the body of it). In case the reference can be useful for you to test it also, it is the Logitech LMD-SPDH100UC SSD. I am not able to put a hand on it for now because european SSD market is unfortunately a bit lacking of these kind of mini SSD stuff and I probably will end up to order it from Japan with a long-time delivery, but I would be very intersted to see how well it could perform. It seems to be the closest thing to the kind of minimalism I wish I could achieve for a Sigma FP rig, but with a longer time of recording.
Yeah I’ve seen that follow up. I am extremely interested in the other drive he discovered. I’m actually traveling to Japan next week and may see if I can find the Logitech drive while I’m there 🤞🏻
Great job, son
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This is a cool idea. Hopefully they'll come out with an even more compatible model. I've been using my Crucial X9 with the FP and its been working like a champ.
I hope so! I love not having cables hanging off the camera
I've actually been recording to ssd thumbdrive for the S5 iiiX. Works perfect and I love how it's lighter and less gear needed than mounting a full size ssd. Haven't had any issues. I'm only recording in UHD.
Nice! Is the Samsung thumb drive that people were using with blackmagic?
@@Ansonandco Nope it's a 1TB Kusuny. Some off brand I saw being tested on UA-cam. It's pretty great.
what a cool little SSD
Pretty dope indeed!
Pretty cool mod for the FP
Thanks buddy!
this is interesting. I hope the manufacturers will continue to experimenting with ssd sizes because USB-C recording via SSD is really promising. I recently bought an enclosure box with a 1/4 screw which allows me to use standard M.2 2280 SSDs mounted directly on the bottom of my G9II, or to a cage and has a very low profile recording option
Nice! What brand did you pick up?
@@Ansonandco I think it is the JEYI enclosure
@@andytwgss thanks I’ll check it out
Sounds like a nightmare! I have an unrelated question about the audio features with the FP - Can you plug in mics and monitor recording? Thanks mate
Curious if this makes any sound while recording. The DPL ssd has some beeping noises, might just be the nmve I bought
I was curious too, it does not make a sound while recording
How about recording in 1080p 12bit DNG?
Maybe this would be a better option compared to an SD card because it's way cheaper. Great for social media short videos.
@@TheGoodContent37 you can do 1080p 12bit to an Sd card so for sure
Hey man love the look of this video. I think i will pass on this drive for the Sigma Fp. Maybe later on in its development if they make a version which can both handle the heat and probably be a bit larger then I will invest.
Definitely! I should have also prefaced that I may not use it for paid gigs, but it’s great for grabbing shots that if something were to happen it would not be the end of the world
OMG yes!
🤘🏻🤘🏻
THANK YOU
🫶🏻 you’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Hey Anson - quick question - does the USB adaptor block the use of the sigma camera strap lug on the left side of the EVF-11? - Thanks for all your FP content, it's a bit of a goldmine.
It doesn’t block it, but the strap my hit the SSD for sure
So whats gonna happen is it getting beyond the halfway point of overheating will wear down the "ssd" faster. Heat Expand, cool down, heat expand, cool down and so on and so on!
Also cool that a glorified usb stick becomes a ssd when it gets past a certain capacity.
Still a good tip and i think a lifesaver in a pinch. Forgot storage somehow or didn't bring enough. 2 of em in the back of a bag should be a no brainer.
Yeah I think if you are doing shorter clips the better. There is definitely a reason I recorded my talking portion with a Samsung t5 haha
Good call out
I've seen this "sharge disk" thing online, it promises a 10GBPS sustained speed for at least 76minutes and it comes with a built in fan for cooling, did someone already tried this ?
It also has a male USBC port on it so it's even more minimalist as you don't need the adapter ...
Links?!
I've been using it for awhile, but even at 1080 12-bit CDNG recording usually stops after 9 seconds :/
That is neat! Whooping write speed for just so tiny drive. Did you know there's also tiny Samsung MUF-256DA/APC (USB-C thumb drive)?
400MB/s read speed, although it's ~100MB/s write speed limits the available codec options.
With S5IIX it creates minimal setup at least for 150Mbps LongGOP stuff 😊
Is it the tiny blue usbC drive? Yeah I’ve used it, but since it did not keep up with the fp’s raw data I stopped using it
@@Ansonandco Yeah, it's exactly that. Totally understandable. If only Samsung had pumped that writing speed way up, that little champ would have been success. Maybe thermals is the main limitation to nerf these small ones to more moderate speeds. Although that little Buffalo takes the speed to a new level. Thanks for pointing out that option ☺️
Of course! I’m glad I could help. Honestly yeah I loved the design of that little drive. Although I did have to shave some of the housing to fit it on the fp, but it was a great little option
Thanks for the vid and insights! Question, what advantages would this have over using an SD card? Wouldn't an SD card be more minimalist?
The sd card is limited to 1080p at 12bit raw and 8bit 4k. And that is with a v90 SD card. If you want 12bit 4k you have to record to an SSD
@@Ansonandco got it! Thank you!! :D
@@1edber no problem!
Naruto is wilding in real life.
I've been waiting for something like this. ugh.
Hahaha me too!
@@Ansonandco Do you know of anyone that's made an evf-11 knock off for this that isn't 700$?
what camera and lens combo did you record this video with?
the talking portion or the b roll? The camera was all the FP. The talking was the sign 24mm t1.5 cine lens and the b roll test shots was a new lens I’m not allowed to talk about yet
The product shots were the sigma 50mm t1.5 and 85mm t1.5
@@Ansonandco The talking head parts. Would you say the Sigma Fp is too much for a noob? I'm looking for something where I don't have to work hard for cinematic footage...did you do any color grading for the talking head parts or is that how the footage looks straight from the camera?
I bought this ssd and it doesn't work with my sigma fp, the camera can not read it. I use it with my laptop and it is a really small ssd, but for the record it did NOT work with sigma FP.
Did you try to format it on the fp? Or does the camera not recognize it at all? What adapter are you using?
@@Ansonandco I did format it on the laptop, the camera does not recognize it, I tried with several different adapters and still not work, I thought maybe the problem is that I bought a 500 GB ssd and not a 1TB ssd. Only thing that I can think.
I wonder if this will work for my black magic 4k?
Most likely, BRAW is super easy on drives
Very nice sir
Thanks dude!
Is a Samsung T5 drive really that heavy that it makes the FP unusable?
It’s not that it’s heavy, it’s just the mounting and sometimes having an SSD hanging off the camera is inconvenient. Still love and use my t5 drives but it’s nice to have something else for when I don’t need my t5
Does it also overheat with slower recording modes?
I tested it on 1080p 10bit raw and it was fine
@@Ansonandco What about 1080p 12bit?
Better than Dark Power Lab SSD solution?
I like what they do, what I like about this is its smaller, cheaper and I can use it on both cameras
I’ve been eyeing this drive to try with an iPhone 15 for ProRes 60p recording. Any chance you could test this? Do you think it would over heat as much? Thanks!
As I own an iPhone 13 mini, I probably would not be able to test it anytime soon. But I would imagine it could handle it
He also claims to get 30 minutes of record time on a Logitech thumb drive (also not available in the US). I copied the specs and order a similar SSD on Amazon. I also bought heat sinks to put on it. Fingers crossed…
do you have the link for that drive? I have been looking for it and would love to use it for my longer shoots and do away with cables completely
@@Ansonandco The Logitech SSD can be found on Amazon Japan under : Logitech LMD-SPDH100UC. I don't have found it yet on Ebay though.
Can sigma fp "zoom" while recording video or while streaming ?
You cannot
@@Ansonandco even with zoom lens?
@@AlHadaf00 a zoom lens can always zoom.
I'm hoping that by next year, when I'll have the budget for an upgrade, that Sigma will pull the trigger on a new Sigma fp ii. 14 stops of dynamic range, rotating screen, full frame foveon sensor, open gate recording, full size HDMI port, log (yes, actually log), and very wishful thinking here... wireless monitoring through a tablet or phone with an app.
I would not turn down these features. as long as they keep the image quality. similar to the s1h to the s5iix, you can throw specs at a camera, but lose it's magic. I prefer the magic over specs tbh. but fingers crossed!
There is no denying the magic of the fp. Even if a mark 2 doesn't come out anytime soon, the fp still has an image quality unmatched at its price point. Those specs would be icing on the cake.
@@lucascoble 100% agree
Having shot a feature on the Digital Bolex now I’m considering the FP for my next feature. Really want to create a unique palette with those 4K DNG’s. Thanks to you guys 💫 @authenticLC @Ansonandco PS: I read that the Foveon Sensor is not coming out anytime soon :/
@@ArunKarthick92 it does seem the foveon is super delayed
Better use SAMSUNG usb-c thumbdrive!
Why destroy camera functionality with this device?
On the market for $200 you can buy 4 TB compact disks that fp writes to non-stop.
There are plenty of compact mountings and cheap flat cables for them...
The disk is in the way..., write 12-bit raw to the card while maintaining moisture protection...
I don’t support it, this is degradation for the camera, it is already compact and the disk in most cases is a huge benefit, not a hindrance!
to each their own I guess. I do not find it in the way at all. if it's on the evf-11 there is no moisture issue.
@@Ansonandco, We have fast cards that you can write on without stopping, why do we need such an inferior device?
@@UriRaWell, I personally think the Samsung T5 and a lot of SSDs along with the USB-C cable cause the FP to lose some of its tiny and rectangular shaped form. You'll have to add a cage as well. I went to Japan for holiday and that was my set up. It was bulky, odd shaped and heavy. Even Sony shooters are looking at me strange. I really wished I had this Buffalo SSD and keep my cage. 30sec recording is long enough for vacation B-rolls.
@@stanleystevens6278, Why add a cage?
There are three holes on the camera for mounting the disc.
But in fhd you can 12 bit raw without a disk and without overheating to the internal card.
Why open the USB-C port for a useless drive that will let you down with work...
In addition to T5, I use two more types of disks, including 4Tb, and I haven’t thought about it in this direction for a long time.
This disc also requires a replacement battery, with a small one from a wristwatch)))
Sorry, I couldn't resist. But such “adjustments” to the camera contradict its use.
I feel very sorry for people who don’t understand this and waste their time and money.
Although you have completed your task, people will watch this video).
Hello Friend. Your channel brings together little Sigma lovers. I thought it was worth trying to influence the decisions of Sigma programmers to introduce the improvements, we dream about in the long-unannounced firmware update. Some users will probably think about the logarithmic profile first. However, what I care most about, is the recording of gyroscope data. If you made a film on this topic - our pious desires, certainly the entire FP lovers community, would be extremely grateful. Peace!