Piper Cherokee 180 Review - The Perfect Time Builder/Trainer!

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  • @Handotr
    @Handotr 4 роки тому +34

    I have a 1968 Cherokee 180 D. Everything you said is correct. Great useful load, faster than a 172. I installed upturned wing tips, upgraded to a Garmin GTN. I love my Cherokee. You made an excellent choice.

  • @justNvlog
    @justNvlog 4 роки тому +23

    This was hands down, the best piper 180 review I've seen. This channel has potential

  • @bretkruthoff2361
    @bretkruthoff2361 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the video. I own a 1966 Cherokee C 180. And you are correct, only 2 side windows. I’ve had it for two years and I love it.

  • @justinbaker7835
    @justinbaker7835 2 місяці тому

    Thanks
    about to buy a 180, a bit nervous as it’s my first plane and just completed my check ride. Lots of good info really appreciate it.

  • @jamesharkness1058
    @jamesharkness1058 3 роки тому +2

    That is one of the most bullet proof airplanes out there! You did a great job handling the aircraft. Someone taught you well! Nice job!

  • @naijapilotxmax6006
    @naijapilotxmax6006 4 роки тому +8

    I love the way you took your time to explain stuff about your aircraft. Nice one bro.

  • @UltimateAnarchy
    @UltimateAnarchy 3 роки тому +4

    To be honest I never looked at this airplane simply because it wasn't available at my flight school. The CFI that did my discovery flight had me sit in several different models they had in their fleet to see which one was comfortable for me because I'm a pretty big guy at 6'5'' and we settled on the Cessna 172 as the smallest one I could fit into and still be (relatively) comfortable.
    They eventually bought a Piper Cherokee 180 and I sat in it just yesterday.
    Man, I have to say, it was a bear to get into but once I figured it out and plopped down into the right seat I immediately noticed that I had way more space between the dash and my knees and several inches more headroom!
    Plus, there's the added benefit of not having to crane my neck down to see under the wing and out the side of the airplane. So yea, the Piper is a pain in the arse to get into and out of but I figure that's only one or two minutes out of my day compared to an hour or two sitting in the cockpit. I'll take the extra head and legroom any day and all the extra perks you mentioned in this video are just the icing on the cake! Thanks

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! Yeah they are hard to get into but once you are the comfort is pretty good!

  • @onegreatpilot
    @onegreatpilot 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! Besides the complete explanation of all of your Cherokee 180 characteristics, your airmanship skills in the flight part of the video is a textbook example for student and private pilots. Thanks for sharing your aviation experiences. I got my PPL on a C152 and then I moved to the Cherokee PA28-160 for my instrument ticket and I loved it! Moving from such small AC like the amazing C152 to the Cherokee was like moving to an airliner, for me. I also had the chance to build some time towards my Instrument endorsement in a C172N. That one was a great aircraft too.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому

      Wow! Not sure I'm deserving of your praise, but thank you! I have never flown in a 150(I don't know if I would even fit in it). But I do know Cherokees and 172's are great planes. I'm sure you had a great experience with them.

  • @johnbantle7004
    @johnbantle7004 4 роки тому +5

    Nice plane! I happen to own Cherokee N6325J so our planes are stable mates. I have owned it for the last 20 years and have enjoyed it immensely. I don’t know of any other 180 hp plane that has a much useful load. Happy flying.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      That's very cool! Do you have any pictures of it? If you do, feel free to email me at samueltheaviator@gmail.com, I'd love to see it.

  • @smflyboy
    @smflyboy Рік тому

    How exciting! I am a student pilot with only my checkride to complete. Also learned in a 172. I've been fantasizing about owning my own airplane for the same reasons as you....building hours and burgers lol. I'll have to check out the Cherokee 180. I love the color scheme on your Cherokee. It's handsome! The interior looks amazing too. I enjoyed the video. Wow, you have to approach quite a bit faster in the Cherokee than in the Cessna 172. I'm used to final at about 65kias. Keep flying!

  • @1556anit
    @1556anit 3 роки тому +1

    Great job describing both pro's & con's, and a delight flying with you here. I've got a 1967 180C with Total Time Airframe & Engine 1700 hrs. (Actually she's got me) I'm the third owner and she's always been hangared. If you ask me, you've got a real winner there! And this was my choice of a/c in 2004 when I purchased "Juliette". I've flown many aircraft, taught for more years than I'd like to admit, (CFIAIM, ATP, A&P F.E., etc.) flew the Boeing 727 for several years, Part 121 with a Major Carrier, and next to it, I think I've found the perfect general aviation aircraft hands down. Welcome home!!!

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! Sounds like you have a great plane on your hands! Glad you liked the video.

  • @patrikstrandquist1875
    @patrikstrandquist1875 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the tour of you Cherokee 180. Good format, little more in deapth and i like that. Keep it up!

  • @donaldparlettjr3295
    @donaldparlettjr3295 4 роки тому +2

    I trained in the Piper Colt then went to the Piper Cherokee 140 for my cross-country work. After getting my private I went to the Cherokee 180. Personally I'd like to get a Cherokee 6. I have around 3000 hrs in Pipers since 1978.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! Good luck on the cherokee 6!

    • @Skyprince27
      @Skyprince27 3 роки тому

      OMG, I have a Piper Colt now and am considering upgrading to a Cherokee 180 after I get my private. 😎

  • @collinyoung2711
    @collinyoung2711 4 роки тому +4

    My son began flight lessons yesterday in one. Great video.

  • @noelmasc.4348
    @noelmasc.4348 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent, congrats, great review and flight, thanks for sharing.

  • @TheCapTan
    @TheCapTan 4 роки тому +2

    Great Video. I just purchased a 1968 Piper Cherokee Arrow 180. Similar except for retracts.

  • @steveellington8313
    @steveellington8313 2 роки тому

    Great video I love PA 28 Cherokee airplanes, the only thing that might be a little confusing to someone unfamiliar with this plane is when you’re cleaning up after landing you should say you’re bringing the flaps up instead of putting them down although we understand you mean you’re putting the lever down

  • @556mike8
    @556mike8 4 роки тому +2

    Great video and nice flying bro!

  • @rodolfocastro3222
    @rodolfocastro3222 2 роки тому

    Thanks! Great plane and great video!

  • @NCTuskie
    @NCTuskie 4 роки тому +3

    Taking PPL in a Warrior, definitely looking to stay in the Piper family. This convinced me 180 is the move

    • @NCTuskie
      @NCTuskie 4 роки тому +1

      Three weeks later, I’m having to buy a 140/150 because the 180’s are selling like hot cakes

  • @tomlawrence713
    @tomlawrence713 4 роки тому +1

    Carb heat in all the Cherokees I have flown is off (cold) in the up position. Your aircraft is the opposite.
    You used full carb heat for the approach. Procedure in POH is to use carb heat on approach if you
    Have indication of carb ice. Green arc on your tach goes all way down to 500 RPM. EXCELLENT VIDEO.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video. That's an interesting observation on the carb heat lever position, I might have to look into that. Also as far as the carb heat, I am aware of the POH on that, however if the temperature and humidity are conducive for carb ice, I do use carb heat for low power and low altitude operation's, such as landing. Thanks for the comment!

  • @TheFretman2
    @TheFretman2 4 роки тому +3

    Nice vid! Been looking for something like this to show my wife the Cherokee 180.

  • @Dave5500
    @Dave5500 4 роки тому +1

    Great job flying, and beautiful airplane!!

  • @mikestiles811
    @mikestiles811 3 роки тому +1

    Good review. I am thinking of getting one

  • @johnnylook6564
    @johnnylook6564 Рік тому

    GREAT VIDEO!!! What would you say it is worth today? How many hours do you have on the engine?

  • @stationmanager9325
    @stationmanager9325 2 роки тому

    I flew a PIper Cherokee on charter in Australia for quite a while. I found the PA180 was I though one of the best aeroplanes Piper ever built .Not to metion the great engine at 180 H.P. Lycoming was one of the best engines ever made.The PA180 was a very stable platform to fly and cross winds at 30kts not a problem either. Also a very stable platform on Instru,ments. Cross wind operations a breeze at 25kts.

  • @trilogy3x
    @trilogy3x 2 роки тому

    Sounds perfect for me 115 knots is cool 10,000 ft is around where I like to fly has a great useful load even tho I’d have to land and fuel a few times I’ll definitely fly it coast to coast

  • @kiddcloud
    @kiddcloud 4 роки тому +5

    Great tour of the 180. That’s the plane I want to buy!

  • @jplacroix461
    @jplacroix461 4 роки тому +2

    I'm really enjoying your videos Sam, and hope you keep them coming. Bow hat completed your IFR will you do your multi engine on the new to you Aztec?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Yes, I will be doing my multi on the Aztec. Glad you enjoy the videos.

  • @dcottrill43223
    @dcottrill43223 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Informative as well as entertaining. Subscribed.

  • @gradymiller8025
    @gradymiller8025 4 роки тому +5

    Great video. I recently completed my private in a 172M. I bought the same 1968 Cherokee 180 D and have been flying it really only past few months. I noticed you idle at 1000 rpm. And were on the mixture do you bring it down? I have a slight tendency to get my plugs fouled on mag check, and have increased my idle rpm to 1200 and mixture about halfway down (by the letter "U") to avoid this. May be because my idle time a little longer as new pilot, but seems rougher at 1000 rpm and when less leaned. Never had issue with the 172. Otherwise flies great.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      Honestly not quite sure why your plugs are fouling. I have never had a issue with fouling plugs, but I idle at 1000 rpm and lean to avoid that. My guess is that there may be a deeper issue, but I'm not a mechanic.

    • @muhammadsteinberg
      @muhammadsteinberg 11 місяців тому

      Lean, lean, lean unless your doing a mag check, takeoff and landing. Otherwise lean to peak. That will element fouling problems.

  • @bradyoder5899
    @bradyoder5899 4 роки тому +1

    Nice airplane congrats on the purchase. I did my primary training in a 180 D and now own a Dakota. It was a very easy transition with the exception of more right rudder.

  • @dennisnabors1948
    @dennisnabors1948 2 роки тому

    I think it looks great

  • @Estebanserrano96
    @Estebanserrano96 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful Cherokee. I'm looking to take flying lessons in a Piper Cherokee 180, can you tell me if the FAA wing spar AD includes this model ?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому +1

      I have a video coming out the first of next week talking about the piper wing spar AD. You might have to wait till then to find out🙂

  • @presleycosta4127
    @presleycosta4127 4 роки тому +2

    Do you not lean it on the ground? The archer and Cherokee I fly I've been told to lean it on the ground to avoid carbon buildup. The A&P who does the maintenance on the plane also recommend this.

    • @GeneralSirDouglasMcA
      @GeneralSirDouglasMcA 4 роки тому +1

      Same with the C172N I trained in (pull the mixture to a knuckles-width from the firewall). Some instructors and pilots are for it, others are against it.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I normally do. In the video I did a little bit, but not a lot. I was actually talking to my A&P recently and he recommended leaning it as much as possible on the ground. So I will be making sure to lean it more than I used to.

  • @jeromes5141
    @jeromes5141 4 роки тому +6

    Great video. All my training was the 172. After deciding that I want to own an airplane I realized that 172s are over priced. Pipers were my next option but quickly learned that the 140s are under powered, and decent 180s with ifr platform was few and expensive. I'm now looking for a Mooney M20C or E. What was your experience financing the aircraft and all the paperwork process involved?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +4

      We did not do the traditional financing. So I can't really answer that question. But from what I understand, it's closer to financing a house than a car.

    • @jeromes5141
      @jeromes5141 4 роки тому +3

      @@samueltheaviator4802 I see. Signing your life away. But what I was really getting at was if they gave you any hard time after you found the plane, and how it went with prebuy inspection. Were there things the seller had to fix and can price be lowered with faults found?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +4

      @@jeromes5141 We basically did a Annual inspection as the prebuy, and the seller paid for that. But it was owned by a mechanic and airline pilot, so they bought it to fix up and sell. So it was already in tip top shape before the annual, and they didn't find any issues.

    • @jeromes5141
      @jeromes5141 4 роки тому +3

      @@samueltheaviator4802 ok good to hear. I hope I'm that lucky when I find that Mooney I want. Thanks you.

    • @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWX-du8vz
      @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWX-du8vz 2 роки тому +1

      I think it really depends on what your needs are. For time building the 140’s are hard to beat. I lean to just rich of peak and fly in the AZ heat and get 7-7.5 GPH. If you’re looking for a trainer I’d go with the 180hp and if you’re looking for a true family plane a Cherokee six are really great.

  • @therustypilot3452
    @therustypilot3452 2 роки тому

    Great planes. We ended up going with the Beechcraft planes Sundowner and Sierra as in 2022 they were the better buy.

  • @cn9936
    @cn9936 4 роки тому +2

    I really like the PC 180! I’ve checked out Cessnas and an awesome Beech Skipper, but the PC180 is my favorite! Let me know when you move up to another plane if you plan on selling it. Thanks.

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! I don't know if we have any plans to sell it in the near future, but I'll keep you in mind.

    • @cn9936
      @cn9936 4 роки тому

      @@samueltheaviator4802 I don’t blame you, enjoy it and maybe I’ll meet you and it at an aviation event once they get going again! Happy new year!

  • @leemoore9933
    @leemoore9933 3 роки тому +1

    Great Job!

  • @Rift45
    @Rift45 4 роки тому

    Nice airplane! Great to see a tour of something that’s fairly affordable

  • @thomasalexander2536
    @thomasalexander2536 3 роки тому +1

    Good piloting

  • @scottmoseley5122
    @scottmoseley5122 4 роки тому +1

    Subscribed. Very interesting. Do you have a video about you and your interest in flying?

  • @the-bu3lb
    @the-bu3lb Рік тому

    So this plane and the archer ii the same ??

  • @joenenninger971
    @joenenninger971 4 роки тому

    Cherokee 235 was my favorite hauler. For sale now in 50-60K range.

    • @GeneralSirDouglasMcA
      @GeneralSirDouglasMcA 4 роки тому +1

      About the most stable-flying single-engine out there from what I’ve heard, and it’s almost impossible to get outside the weight & balance. However, they have 4 fuel tanks, so it’s easy to forget to change tanks and starve the engine.

  • @johngilbert1325
    @johngilbert1325 3 роки тому

    Feel like the carb heat should be on the left like a cessna- it's just obscured! Love the plane, regardless. thanks

  • @GeneralSirDouglasMcA
    @GeneralSirDouglasMcA 2 роки тому

    If buying a used Cherokee 180, what would be some of the things to look for before purchase (besides engine nearing TBO, corrosion from non-use, etc.). I wouldn’t want to buy one and discover an expensive problem in order to maintain airworthiness.
    Also, I used to fly a Sundowner rental aircraft. Roomy cockpit, but a bit slow for 180 hp (even the 160 hp C172’s cruise faster).

  • @alexpointfan
    @alexpointfan 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Samuel, What’s your empty weight? I know the POH has it around 1300 pounds but a couple different 180s weight and balance I’ve seen has it weighing closer to 1500 pounds giving it a lesser useful load of around 900

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому

      Hi Alex. I don't have the weight and balance in front of me at this moment. But just some quick math has it around 1390 pounds. The actual useful load of this aircraft is just north of 1000 pounds, so just subtract that from the gross weight. Hope this helps! - Samuel

  • @yodez3
    @yodez3 4 роки тому +1

    Very nice tour of your Cherokee, thanks. I’ve always wondered if the STOL wingtips reduce cruise speed?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      I don't think it does much, if it does at all. I can easily cruise 110kts+ at lower altitudes and lower power settings and around 120kts a little higher at max cruise power.

  • @rhettdepol4629
    @rhettdepol4629 4 роки тому +1

    Any info on that crankshaft AD you mentioned?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Yes, really was not a big deal. They had to pull the prop off and take out a inspection plug behind that. Take a look at the crank and put it back together. I think it was only a couple hundred bucks,

  • @trulytony1766
    @trulytony1766 3 роки тому +1

    How much did you buy it for if you don’t mind me asking? Looking to get one as well soon!

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  3 роки тому

      I believe in the neighborhood of $45000. But prices have gone up a lot recently.

  • @maritestaylor8458
    @maritestaylor8458 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome

  • @AllenPortman
    @AllenPortman Рік тому

    You look like you live in the hill country like around san antonio?

  • @franzvoss4808
    @franzvoss4808 4 роки тому +1

    Nice airplane. 👍

  • @matttorgerson3713
    @matttorgerson3713 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Samuel, Great video! I’m an airline pilot and about to purchase my first ever airplane a 77 Archer. I’ve been out of GA a long time and trying to learn about the airplane. Just out of curiosity, why do you select carb heat on landing when it isn’t something that Piper recommends? Hoping to learn.
    Matt

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +3

      I'm actually not sure what the poh says on that. I normally leave it in for landing, unless the weather is out of the range for carb ice, which is somewhere around 70 degrees I believe. If it's warmer than that I don't worry about it.
      The reason I leave carb heat on, is because at low engine RPM, the engine is more susceptible to ice, and I don't want it to quit on final. The only downside is you have to make sure you remember to turn it off for a go around.
      Hope this helps!

    • @AmBoShow
      @AmBoShow 4 роки тому +1

      @@samueltheaviator4802 Definitely should not be using carb heat unless needed in the Piper. That is a Cessna requirement. POH for the Cherokee D says, "Carburetor heat should not be applied unless there is an indication of carburetor icing, since the use of the carburetor heat causes a reduction in power which may be critical in case of a go-around."

    • @cptnour8545
      @cptnour8545 4 роки тому +1

      Just put it on when you turn base leg and turn it off on final and that should be more than enough to clear any carb ice , please add CARB HEAT OFF to your landing checklist

  • @carllarsen6234
    @carllarsen6234 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video..

  • @alqumran8930
    @alqumran8930 4 роки тому +1

    In the rest of the world, the PA28/180 Cherokee is used for charter. The aircraft will nearly carry its own weight. You can fly out of an agriculture strip in our part of the world loaded. The PA28 has a respectable cruise speed 120kts. I have had to fly one on charter several times in 40KT winds and turbulence. The PA28 180 is a very stable instrument platform. Where I live in the world you might have to take 3 people to a cattle sale and leave on 600-yard agriculture, strip at 2800AMSL Let me remind you. Its a workhorse. Why don't you run the sums over the formula ie.,
    CLHALFEROWVSQUAREDS. It's all in the formula. retired CPL bush pilot.

  • @DavidBerquist334
    @DavidBerquist334 4 роки тому +1

    Are seats rated 200 pounds each calculated weight

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      No, you can have more than 200 pounds per seat. I might have used 200 pounds per seat as a example, but that it is not a limit.

  • @danbuffington75
    @danbuffington75 4 роки тому

    Great video. Subscribed!

  • @josephcarter3759
    @josephcarter3759 4 роки тому

    How much did it cost for monthly and overall price?

  • @naijapilotxmax6006
    @naijapilotxmax6006 4 роки тому +3

    I just subscribed

  • @DirtFather407
    @DirtFather407 2 роки тому +1

    The only reason I’m tempted to buy a Cessna instead is cause of that annoying bar in the middle 🤣

  • @tooey
    @tooey 4 роки тому

    I want a 180 now :) & Is that a sight adjuster on your keychain?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! I believe it is for the compass.

    • @tooey
      @tooey 4 роки тому

      SamuelTheAviator Oh wow! I thought it was for an m4 front sight 💁🏽‍♂️

  • @mattf49006
    @mattf49006 4 роки тому +1

    While a 180hp 172 is a better comparison than a 160 hp skyhawk...I'm surprised you didnt look at a fixed gear Cardinal..180 hp..comparable useful load much better cabin comfort ..two doors ..the cherokee is a nice bird though..have fun

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the comment! I probably should have mentioned the Cardinal, however I would say that is a step above the Cherokee.

  • @N1377J
    @N1377J 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice job with your video, keep up the good work. If you were IFR Class A air space starts at 18,000 feet can you go that high in a 180? :)

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому

      Haha! No, but closer than you would think. The service ceiling is 15,700ft, but I would guess it would struggle to reach it. The highest I've ever had it was around 11,000ft. Thanks for the comment!

  • @piper0428
    @piper0428 4 роки тому +1

    Nice!!

  • @christate1974
    @christate1974 4 роки тому +1

    How tall are you?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      Great question! I'm 6'2".

    • @christate1974
      @christate1974 4 роки тому

      @@samueltheaviator4802 thank you I was only asking because I am also 6ft 2 I was thinking about buying a Piper Cherokee but didn't want to be bumping my head great video and description by the way

    • @chrisnedbalek2866
      @chrisnedbalek2866 4 роки тому

      .. I'll be darned. I'm also 6'2" & considering buying a 180. Small world.

  • @nerdz1796
    @nerdz1796 4 роки тому

    Awesome!

  • @robertbrandywine
    @robertbrandywine 2 роки тому

    Well, I disagree, I think the Cherokee is the best looking plane in its class!!

  • @shadinrish
    @shadinrish 4 роки тому +3

    how much did you pay for this?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +7

      I paid 47k for it, Which is about average. They seem to go for between $40,000 and $65,000, depending on year, hours, avionics, interior, paint etc...

    • @shadinrish
      @shadinrish 4 роки тому +1

      I’m looking to buy something cheap to avoid rent cost while I get my license and then buy something better to go on a world tour. Any suggestions?

    • @samueltheaviator4802
      @samueltheaviator4802  4 роки тому +1

      @@shadinrish If you don't need the useful load, maybe go with a Cherokee 140. They are a little cheaper.

    • @shadinrish
      @shadinrish 4 роки тому +2

      @@samueltheaviator4802 thanks man! lets hangout sometimes if you're ever in nyc! would love to collab with you!

  • @PhillRobinson
    @PhillRobinson 3 роки тому

    Kinda kinda

  • @Skbowling2003
    @Skbowling2003 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Sent you an email. Thanks

  • @Dennco2000
    @Dennco2000 2 роки тому

    I bet it's more than $100 an hour now lol.

  • @Johnwayne1968
    @Johnwayne1968 3 роки тому

    Beware Wings falling off the Cherokees

  • @beekang6708
    @beekang6708 26 днів тому

    Piper used the Lycoming engine, zinkcromated AL sheet metal, wing loadind is better than others, over all, piper is better, but on.y 1 door, over all value, Piper is. Etter, Congratulations