@@thelonelycrab204 Well if it has a rifled barrel and is shooting slugs, it will be pretty accurate to about 100 yards. So a scope isn't totally nuts and an ACOG scope is pretty reasonable.
The thing i love about vr shooters is you cant crouchspam or jump in them without doing it (or attempting to do it) in real life so you actually have to use cover
UPDATE: This comparison is out of date. Onward had an update with the quest version of the game which significantly downgrades the game on PC in many areas including graphics, sound, enemy AI, Death animations and removes content. As of right now if you are looking for a VR FPS on the PC then go for Pavlov or Contractors.
Yes but requires way more skill, example, that neck beard weirdo that used to dust you from his years of sitting in a chair in the basement probably wont fair well against you, if you are an active person, I jog regularly and I finish games of pavlov sweating, at least it promotes healthy lifestyle, and it would be nice to play a game requiring skill and not muscle memory and abusing broken mechanics
From my time in VR, Pavlov is more for casually playing and having fun, with a more casual and funny feel to it. Onward is more for being tactical and serious. It still is funny and enjoyable but it is more tactical and serious
Surprised you didn't mention the controller smoothing. Just played Onward for the first time yesterday, and that feature really surprised me. Makes non-pointblank shots much easier to hit. Wish that was something Pavlov had
I think pavlov has a virtual stock to help with this issue but I just use a regular vr gunstock from protube and that just stops the problem even without settings to help for me.
@@jt8821 very nice in first 2 weeks and then you are back with good old screen FPS shooting with great graphics and much more complex gameplay. VR shooting needs to evolve to be more interesting than standard games. My Rift S is covered with dust.
I used to always play onward but quickly changed when I found pavlov and didn’t regret a thing, for instance pavlov has zombies, tank tdm that has vehicles
I also own both and personally i've seen mrdeath do some amazing community outreach, he's even reached out ot me personally on discord, and on twitch... they couldn't ask for a better guy.
Gman this a stupid comment. Even with 1000+ there isn’t enough players. I will still run into the same people with those numbers. Onward is even worse lol
They're both really fun, but for quest, I'd rather recommend onward, since there is more content there. The quest version for Pavlov has way less than the PC Pavlov.
@@themodestpineapple9236 Pavlov is also 25$ >_> If you're talking about the beta on Quest- that'll also be 25$ once it releases, it's only free to play temporarily as it's buggy as all hell in the beta.
I remember the first time I played Onward. I joined an uplink match on subway and told the guys in the lobby I was new to the game. When we got in the match one guy asked which one was me. He told me to stick with him. We carefully made our way through the dark alley and down a short stairway into a lit hallway. It was so quiet it was unsettling. As we went down the hall he was telling me to slow down and stay quiet. Suddenly a gun shot came from around the corner. It was so thunderously loud it scared the piss out of me. I immediately ducked behind some cover scared out of my mind thinking holy shit as more bullets flew overhead. Each bullet sounding like it just missed my head. My teammate had been gunned down. As I sit there behind cover to scared to even peak over the barrier, he was closing in on me. Eventually he gets around the cover and I try to shoot him with no success. I was dead. After that experience I was hooked. Most intense fps game I have ever played. Edit: If you have played the game after September of 2020 that was when update 1.8 came out. They added Oculus Quest support and completely overhauled the game to accommodate the headset. Simply the headset did not have enough power to run the game. The "realistic sounding, very loud gunshots" are no longer apart of the game. To put it in perspective, people used to joke about hearing loss and even going deaf playing this game because they would have the volume so loud.
WOW I definitely have to get this game!! I'm still deciding on getting Oculus Rift s or the Valve index. Which would you recommend? Or maybe getting the rift s and then get the valve index and give away the one I didn't like as much to my younger brother as a present lol
@@amao20039714 I believe both headsets are sold out at the moment. Reddit is the best place to check if people are getting their headsets and when they ordered them. I ordered a Valve Index on March 9, less than 30 seconds after it went live and I am still waiting for an email to put in shipping information. Some say the Rift S has slightly better clarity. The valve Index has finger tracing, higher resolution screen, and higher frame rate. That's about as much information I know.
@@amao20039714 It's important to note that this experience was 2 years ago. Since then Steam VR has put in a setting that significantly reduced dynamic volume on games. To disable it, open Steam VR and go to: Settings>Audio(Tab on Left)>Gain Reduction>Off Most people don't know about this.
@@amao20039714 ey man, Idk where u live but about 4 days ago, I wanted to get a VR headset but rift s was out of stock everywhere and where it was availabe, it was $300 ahead of its original price, the oculus quest is not much different from the rift s as the controllers are the same and if u get link (which is only $20) you can play quest exclusives and pcvr including literally every game, Oculus store, SteamVR, virtal desktop, u name it. That's what I got and I'm currently enjoying boneworks rn, as long as u got a pc that's ready, which u dont need a godlike one, i actually have a $1200 laptop that's A DELL! basically, If you don't wanna spend $700 on a rift s, I highly recommend the Quest. (Edit: I was so wrong god please don't listen to a word from this comment, everyone who has said Rift S is better for me, you were right because there is so many problems with Oculus Link. Don't do what I did, get a Rift S, I'm currently selling mine to get a Rift S.)
Subway was my first map too, although my teammates weren’t really friendly it was a super intense experience. I went down the same lit stairway and I managed to get into the trench of the train tracks where the subways are. Bullets we’re flying past my head and I immediately ducked. Shooting back, you don’t realize how limited ammo you have and when it’s time to reload it felt so real how little time you have to get another magazine in before the enemy closes in on you while your teammates are dying around you. That’s why Onward is great for a true fps experience
Pavlov if you're looking for some quick fun, like Call of Duty back in the Xbox 360 days. And Onward *If you want fucking PTSD.* Honestly, It's terrifying being pinned down by terrorists, hearing the supersonic snaps of bullets whizzing by your head, seeing your teammate's lives leave their eyes, as you load your last mag in your gun, knowing that death is inevitable, you fire blindly behind you, leaving one bullet left. You reluctantly lift your gun to your chin, and pull the trigger. TL;DR: Onward gave me actual Night Terrors and Stress.
Just something you missed. Theres a multiplayer shooting range for Onward. Its usually just a bunch of people messing around or doing whatever and its the most fun in my opinion.
onward for life yo. well, both. but i pretty much never play pavlov anymore. onward is just insanely addictive. teamwork etc. you can play this for hours. so realistic-ish.
@@texasred6814 Kind of. with sidequest you can get pavlov shack for free. not nearly as good, but it is a good taster. with oculus link you can, however, play legitimate pavlov on steam
My favorite Pavlov map, despite all the incredible maps I've played on, is just this chaotic tiny little map surrounded by floating over-sized flying pigs Nothing felt more counter strike than that
Pavlov is more chilled out. Onward makes me really nervous. Killing in Onward is mostly a matter of who spots who first, so there's a lot of stealth, slow walking, crouching. But in both games knowing the maps make a huge difference.
@@pxolqopt3597 Everyone says that, but isn't pavlov the one that kills in less hits? That's more realistic. And Onward take way too much to kill if you ask me. :/ That and the Players is probably what would make me buy Pavlov instead of Onward
Onward: The Rainbow Six Siege of VRFPS Pavlov: The COD of VRFPS with Counterstrike game modes Onward: Hardcore and very rewarding but slow paced fights and long time between spawns Pavlov: Run and Gun fast paced fights with quicker rounds and spawns
Nah, R6 is about destructible environments with strategic gameplay. Pretty much every wall can be destroyed and bullets will go through walls and hit your enemy
Given the uniforms in most games, I’ve always interpreted it as everyone gets lvl3 soft armor and you buy a plate carrier with ceramic or ar500 steel plate. Probably just me trying to reconcile some level of realism
Definitely recommend Hot Dogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. The sausages might turn you off but trust me, once you start a Take and Hold match you'll just be seeing targets. Definitely the best pure solo shooter in VR.
@@MisterFoxton yeah I love everything about h3vr but the lack of actual enemies puts me off. The real I m of using the weapons is mind blowing though, maybe I'll look into it again then, even if I'm just shooting Sausages..
When I was in, our unit use to play “America’s Army” which is similar to the PC game Arma. Tbh I can see infantry units who work in squads use this game to help them get a better grasp on breaching doors and being more aware of your surroundings.
Marvellous video sir, I've been putting money aside for an Index for a while and should be able to afford one either next month or the one after and I'll be getting both of these!
@@cliffo55thegamerdog83 the Devs of pavlov arent by anymeans proactive there ain't even any good changes they did to the game since day 1 onward for me plays better maybe cause am an arma fanboy
Buy Pavlov, there's so much more to it, than just the game itself. Through the ability for people to create custom maps on pavlov, so much custom modes have been created. There's stuff like Zombies, Prison Escape, TTT and much more. It's kinda like Gmod Multiplayer
@@shonxx9109 Both are coming to Quest officially although you can play Pavlov right now in Beta form if you install it through side quest and its free I think.
@@shonxx9109 You an play steam games using the link cable but you will need a powerful PC to run them. Sideloading is just for games that Oculus wont allow on the store. There are some really good free stuff on sideload so you should check it out. I recommend Pavlov and Crisis Vrigade
Well great news everyone, pavlov shack vr beta is in the oculus store. It is free, however you do have to use app lab to get it. Tons of fun and has a very active player base. Just wanted to inform people that times have changed and it is now on the oculus store
@@cykablyat8862 for real though, people underestimate and downgrade onward when it’s such a great tactical game that literally sends chills down my spine
@@thesovietdoggo9525 its more tactical and harder and more realistic, the new updates came out to support oculus quest which made the game significantly worse than it was just so it can be played on the quest too, and it became more arcady because everyone knows theres gonna be a ton of kids on oculus quest
Yea pavlov needs a lower time to kill. I just run around with a knife and dominate on tdm because it takes to long to kill me and I can kill them in one hit with the knife
I really like the insane detail on the Pavlov guns and how they’re reloads work, much more than onward, but I like onwards strategic element, Pavlov is more casual and onward is more like a milsim, I really don’t like some of its reloads and stuff though, like the bolt action feels fin is my and weird, compared to Pavlov’s far smoother bolt actions, so I like them both I guess, if I could have pavlovs gun detail and features with onwards gameplay and recoil I would be so happy
It’s not. The future is bright. The developer has a small team, and that makes things slower, but they are working on a world war 2 update soon so that will be v cool.
Pavlov is on sale right now for 5 bucks! I haven't played Onward yet, having an absolute blast with Pavlov. It's really casual but it can be fun. Hoping to try Onward out some time.
I like Onwards controlled recoil more because it’s assuming you’re trained to manage weapon recoil. I’d assume special forces would know how to do that.
Shotgun with acog
Siege players: I’m sold
Happy bosg noises
lol use the sniper scope because its a cross map weapon duh
*SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MOMEY*
Facts
@@thelonelycrab204 Well if it has a rifled barrel and is shooting slugs, it will be pretty accurate to about 100 yards. So a scope isn't totally nuts and an ACOG scope is pretty reasonable.
Excellent job sir.
hello
Bad ass.
@@nichenetwork9817 shut up
Thx
The background music in this makes me feel like I'm in the Steam overlay and watching a video on UA-cam while I'm waiting for CS:GO matchmaking.
@@JoyfulBell lmao same
This is too accurate
yeah i thought CS GO was open for me too
The thing i love about vr shooters is you cant crouchspam or jump in them without doing it (or attempting to do it) in real life so you actually have to use cover
Yeah I bet most people wouldn't bother with crouchspamming in vr and play it like it's supposed to. Makes it fun and fair for everyone.
Contractor$ has a dumb jump button.
in aim xr you can jump.
Well I mean you can, but it would probably be physically draining. On the plus side you'd have some shredded thighs after you've done it long enough
*Contractors has entered the chat*
UPDATE: This comparison is out of date. Onward had an update with the quest version of the game which significantly downgrades the game on PC in many areas including graphics, sound, enemy AI, Death animations and removes content. As of right now if you are looking for a VR FPS on the PC then go for Pavlov or Contractors.
Damn that sucks tho i dont have a pc so my only choice is onward
Someone said they have an beta update that rolls back to pc version for better is it true?
@@prodev4012 The devs made a pinned post about in the steam discussion that tells you how to do it.
E&O on the oculus it’s better
the guns sound like airsoft guns lmao, just play pavlov honestly.
So basically Onward is like Insurgency: Sandstorm And Pavlov is like Counter strike
Yes but requires way more skill, example, that neck beard weirdo that used to dust you from his years of sitting in a chair in the basement probably wont fair well against you, if you are an active person, I jog regularly and I finish games of pavlov sweating, at least it promotes healthy lifestyle, and it would be nice to play a game requiring skill and not muscle memory and abusing broken mechanics
Pavlov and counter strike both use source 2 as the game engine, and pavlov uses counter strike assets, the buy menu for example
@outcasted sushiboi you realise both of these engines are based off idtech1 and are the same engine right?
@@MickeyDee420 that's just dude no..
That's not how shit works they didn't just copy the same engine r u stupid
@@krimmAnims no sir
"Onward or Pavlov?" - Plays CSGO Music.
pavlov is like csgo so maybe thats why
Ah yes, the CS:GO menu theme.
Counter Terrorists win
onward is way better. in my op
God please no. Its been destroying my brain for all the 200 hours I have
Me: Should i get onward or pavlov?
Virtual insider: yes.
Pavlov first then onward after you have enough moneybags
If you play onward... pavlov will be trash, at least that happened to me
@@JoseMunoz-lo9mk i played onward first and i love pavlov lol
*Buys H3VR*
Onward
From my time in VR, Pavlov is more for casually playing and having fun, with a more casual and funny feel to it. Onward is more for being tactical and serious. It still is funny and enjoyable but it is more tactical and serious
Surprised you didn't mention the controller smoothing. Just played Onward for the first time yesterday, and that feature really surprised me. Makes non-pointblank shots much easier to hit. Wish that was something Pavlov had
Yeah long range shooting in pavlov feels jarring, H3vr has controller smoothing and it makes shooting at range much easier
I think pavlov has a virtual stock to help with this issue but I just use a regular vr gunstock from protube and that just stops the problem even without settings to help for me.
7:01 Ah, my favorite weapon class in the game - Assault Rye Fizzles
He way he seems to get quieter as he realises what he’s saying makes it so incredibly funny
The amount of custom modes and maps on Pavlov VR sold it for me
Same here
You can(listen up reaaaaaaal close) just straight up steal a map from gmod and copy it to pavlov
@@vutant. most maps indeed are ported
Kenny F21 you mean ttt? They have it
Kenny F21 dont ask how i respond so fast
I don't even have a VR headset why am I watching this
You are prepping.
@@silenthashassin8912 I'm here wishing I could play these
@@jt8821 your wish will be granted much like ours because at one point we was just like you looking at videos.
Did that for years until I build up the courage to get my own headset and graphics card. Not disappointed!
@@jt8821 very nice in first 2 weeks and then you are back with good old screen FPS shooting with great graphics and much more complex gameplay. VR shooting needs to evolve to be more interesting than standard games. My Rift S is covered with dust.
“This forces people to play more slower and be more tactical”
Me: *rushes enemy spawn with an RPG*
Yeah i do speedruns on onward
I used to always play onward but quickly changed when I found pavlov and didn’t regret a thing, for instance pavlov has zombies, tank tdm that has vehicles
both are good but i find pavlov has a lot more squeakers
@@Blaketarded squeakers are really only on Pavlov shack
@@captaineimikk5099 ye because they got da new quest 2 not a lot of kids have pcvr cause they don’t wanna spend 1000 dollars building one
A very nice and unbiased comparison video! I can only recommend getting both games! :)
Thanks, I own and love both including yours for different reasons.
I also own both and personally i've seen mrdeath do some amazing community outreach, he's even reached out ot me personally on discord, and on twitch... they couldn't ask for a better guy.
Yeah MrD
Ya a solid and nuanced opinion
Under $50 on steam sale for both.
One has less than 50 players at each time. The other has 1000+, all I need to know sadly
I prefer Onward but the player count is rough
Onward has a bigger focus on single player raid and not missions anyways.
I usually see way more than 50 players
ThePointymetal it’s kinda sad to because from what I’ve seen from the gameplay in this video Onward looks way more fun
ZGX it’s much deeper mechanically, more like a vr military simulator while you could call pavlov a vr version of csgo
Gman this a stupid comment. Even with 1000+ there isn’t enough players. I will still run into the same people with those numbers. Onward is even worse lol
They're both really fun, but for quest, I'd rather recommend onward, since there is more content there. The quest version for Pavlov has way less than the PC Pavlov.
there isnt a Quest Pavlov. Unless you are talking about Oculus Link or SideQuest
@@thefarsideoflife7361 didn't they start a beta for Pavlov on quest?
@@thefarsideoflife7361 its called pavlov shack beta and its on the app lab
Yeah but Pavlov is free and idk if onward is really worth the extra I think is 25 dollars when I can just keep playing Pavlov
@@themodestpineapple9236 Pavlov is also 25$ >_>
If you're talking about the beta on Quest- that'll also be 25$ once it releases, it's only free to play temporarily as it's buggy as all hell in the beta.
The shooting range in onward also has the pop up target thing just to the left of spawn. But no timer.
“Onward is on the oculus store; Pavlov isn’t”
Pavlov shack: *heelo*
Pavlov shack is also free!
@@leshape192 Yeah, Although it will become paid when it's fully released
This was made before quest was ever popular
The video was made before it was announced
@@Silly_Willy_ ik don’t worry it was just funny watching it when it’s out on quest
I remember the first time I played Onward. I joined an uplink match on subway and told the guys in the lobby I was new to the game. When we got in the match one guy asked which one was me. He told me to stick with him. We carefully made our way through the dark alley and down a short stairway into a lit hallway. It was so quiet it was unsettling. As we went down the hall he was telling me to slow down and stay quiet. Suddenly a gun shot came from around the corner. It was so thunderously loud it scared the piss out of me. I immediately ducked behind some cover scared out of my mind thinking holy shit as more bullets flew overhead. Each bullet sounding like it just missed my head. My teammate had been gunned down. As I sit there behind cover to scared to even peak over the barrier, he was closing in on me. Eventually he gets around the cover and I try to shoot him with no success. I was dead. After that experience I was hooked. Most intense fps game I have ever played.
Edit: If you have played the game after September of 2020 that was when update 1.8 came out. They added Oculus Quest support and completely overhauled the game to accommodate the headset. Simply the headset did not have enough power to run the game. The "realistic sounding, very loud gunshots" are no longer apart of the game. To put it in perspective, people used to joke about hearing loss and even going deaf playing this game because they would have the volume so loud.
WOW I definitely have to get this game!! I'm still deciding on getting Oculus Rift s or the Valve index. Which would you recommend? Or maybe getting the rift s and then get the valve index and give away the one I didn't like as much to my younger brother as a present lol
@@amao20039714 I believe both headsets are sold out at the moment. Reddit is the best place to check if people are getting their headsets and when they ordered them. I ordered a Valve Index on March 9, less than 30 seconds after it went live and I am still waiting for an email to put in shipping information. Some say the Rift S has slightly better clarity. The valve Index has finger tracing, higher resolution screen, and higher frame rate. That's about as much information I know.
@@amao20039714 It's important to note that this experience was 2 years ago. Since then Steam VR has put in a setting that significantly reduced dynamic volume on games. To disable it, open Steam VR and go to:
Settings>Audio(Tab on Left)>Gain Reduction>Off
Most people don't know about this.
@@amao20039714 ey man, Idk where u live but about 4 days ago, I wanted to get a VR headset but rift s was out of stock everywhere and where it was availabe, it was $300 ahead of its original price, the oculus quest is not much different from the rift s as the controllers are the same and if u get link (which is only $20) you can play quest exclusives and pcvr including literally every game, Oculus store, SteamVR, virtal desktop, u name it. That's what I got and I'm currently enjoying boneworks rn, as long as u got a pc that's ready, which u dont need a godlike one, i actually have a $1200 laptop that's A DELL! basically, If you don't wanna spend $700 on a rift s, I highly recommend the Quest.
(Edit: I was so wrong god please don't listen to a word from this comment, everyone who has said Rift S is better for me, you were right because there is so many problems with Oculus Link. Don't do what I did, get a Rift S, I'm currently selling mine to get a Rift S.)
Subway was my first map too, although my teammates weren’t really friendly it was a super intense experience. I went down the same lit stairway and I managed to get into the trench of the train tracks where the subways are. Bullets we’re flying past my head and I immediately ducked. Shooting back, you don’t realize how limited ammo you have and when it’s time to reload it felt so real how little time you have to get another magazine in before the enemy closes in on you while your teammates are dying around you. That’s why Onward is great for a true fps experience
10:32 I feel like I'm watching footage from a police officer's body cam in this clip.
What a wonderful comparison of the 2 games! It's hard to see how anyone could do a better one - well done and many thanks.
they both look really good but i think imma go for onward it looks a little bit more fancy and serious
it is
“Less serious guns like the double barrel shotgun”
I sense an error with this statement and here’s my evidence...
Super Shotgun - Doom
I rest my case
Pavlov if you're looking for some quick fun, like Call of Duty back in the Xbox 360 days.
And Onward *If you want fucking PTSD.* Honestly, It's terrifying being pinned down by terrorists, hearing the supersonic snaps of bullets whizzing by your head, seeing your teammate's lives leave their eyes, as you load your last mag in your gun, knowing that death is inevitable, you fire blindly behind you, leaving one bullet left. You reluctantly lift your gun to your chin, and pull the trigger.
TL;DR: Onward gave me actual Night Terrors and Stress.
Fucking pussy
so your telling me ima become a vieitnam war veteran if i play onward
alternatively, making a badass play and then reviving your squad feels like a war hero too.
man, they're both so great.
Are you ok?
steven. he’s joking it’s fine
Just something you missed. Theres a multiplayer shooting range for Onward. Its usually just a bunch of people messing around or doing whatever and its the most fun in my opinion.
they're always so much fun until the one guy camps the hill and guns down the spawn.
its my fav map :P
Agreed
I know I just got done in there lol
It’s all so toxic, I love to kill everyone for fun.
I have over 500 hours on pavlov but i never tried onward, might buy it after this video, thanks
@Skidrow are you enjoying Pavlov?
Onward is on sale 50% off, now is the time to buy it.
Skidrow I’m just now getting it, do people still play the game?
@@itzsweatz4298 yes
Skidrow okay
Thanks a lot! I was really stumped on which one to get
The whole thing with the sniper in onward is that it's more realistic because irl you have to find the right place
pavlov lets you put an acog on a pump shotgun, onward does not.
this is all i need to know
You can put a sniper scope on a pump shotgun
Haha, love putting that x12 on my pump xD
If only I could put my sniper scope on my knife or pill bottle
Imagine getting headshotted across the map by a dude using an acog on a pump, the only logical conclusion is to uninstall the game, right?
Þe ßarpeßt þørn pfft, you can put a sniper scope on one too
lol, I recognize that clip at 6:40 :P good video
Please take this to #offtopic please
@@alabasterlamb7982 Please don't say reddit things please !
@@dreaghy that's discord
@@Nai_101 Get trolled
Voyder Rozann that’s not even funny
onward for life yo. well, both. but i pretty much never play pavlov anymore. onward is just insanely addictive. teamwork etc. you can play this for hours. so realistic-ish.
Ik my battery keep going dead I'm getting a battery holder headband where I can play forever and it will barley be heavy
Is Pavlov on quest?
@@texasred6814 no
@@texasred6814 Kind of. with sidequest you can get pavlov shack for free. not nearly as good, but it is a good taster. with oculus link you can, however, play legitimate pavlov on steam
Mega oof
You are the most thorough and well spoken online reviewer I have ever heard. Great job. Thank you for making this video. 🙂
My favorite Pavlov map, despite all the incredible maps I've played on, is just this chaotic tiny little map surrounded by floating over-sized flying pigs
Nothing felt more counter strike than that
Impossible to play just one, need to play these 2. Arcade vs Simulator was a good title for your video.
The scopes in Onward kind of say just that. Some people who have no experience with firearms might find a scope with real eye relief "hard to use".
this is the correct comment
Pavlov is more chilled out. Onward makes me really nervous. Killing in Onward is mostly a matter of who spots who first, so there's a lot of stealth, slow walking, crouching. But in both games knowing the maps make a huge difference.
And that’s y there’s free roam
Onward is like Squad of VR and obviously pavlov is csgo
@@pxolqopt3597 Everyone says that, but isn't pavlov the one that kills in less hits? That's more realistic. And Onward take way too much to kill if you ask me. :/ That and the Players is probably what would make me buy Pavlov instead of Onward
@Professional Idiot then from a professional to other, I'm sorry, I was confused
@Professional Idiot yea lol
Do you want a realistic, beautiful, strategy shooter (Onward)? Or a relaxing, arcade, party shooter(Pavlov)?
Yes
Fraxis wow, that’s one of the most wrong statements i’ve ever seen
@@Wylie288 onward can be extremely tactical if you get the right lobby
@@user-yk3bd2ee5q it’s literally accurate af.
@@Wylie288 onward requires strategy. You need to coordinate with your teammates to win. That’s called strategy. Tf is wrong with you?
Ive had more tactical and serious moments in Onward, and way more fun and laughs in Pavlov VR. They're both amazing games
This video is really complete, thanks for breaking down both games !
Onward: The Rainbow Six Siege of VRFPS
Pavlov: The COD of VRFPS with Counterstrike game modes
Onward: Hardcore and very rewarding but slow paced fights and long time between spawns
Pavlov: Run and Gun fast paced fights with quicker rounds and spawns
not really r6 more like insurgency
i love how tactical it can get
Nah, R6 is about destructible environments with strategic gameplay. Pretty much every wall can be destroyed and bullets will go through walls and hit your enemy
@@civilprotectionunit8145 no
Given the uniforms in most games, I’ve always interpreted it as everyone gets lvl3 soft armor and you buy a plate carrier with ceramic or ar500 steel plate. Probably just me trying to reconcile some level of realism
Who's excited for July 30th when onward comes out
Yes.
On quest, yes
WAIT FR THAT MEANS THERE GONNA BE A HUGE PLAYER BASE
I’ve been playing the game for a few months and there not that many lobby’s
I am very excited for it
got onward yesterday and holy cow is it incredible
Excellent video my man... Exactly what I was looking for, all questions answered with no filler
"Onward is a slower paced game" = me rush's in with lmg
Yeah pretty pesky to play against. Especially on escort
Leeweeerrrrrrrroooooooooy jeeeennnnnnkinsssssss
I’m just wondering how you don’t get gunned down right after getting out of cover
It helps if u scream hasta lavesta baby
@@kingmonke1509 in to the radio. While one handing an lmg. Lol
As a boomer who misses playing Raven Shield, I prefer Onward for the single-player "Terrorist Hunt".
yeah, onward is fantastic
Yessssss
Definitely recommend Hot Dogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. The sausages might turn you off but trust me, once you start a Take and Hold match you'll just be seeing targets. Definitely the best pure solo shooter in VR.
@@MisterFoxton yeah I love everything about h3vr but the lack of actual enemies puts me off. The real I m of using the weapons is mind blowing though, maybe I'll look into it again then, even if I'm just shooting Sausages..
You know a guy is a boomer when his account is 14 years old
“The original call of duty world war 2 zombie maps” hmm...
;(
Kinda got me mad
XeElectrik oh I heard him say waw lmao maybe he made a mistake
Gotta get em both
@XeElectrik well techincally waw was a world war 2 game
When I was in, our unit use to play “America’s Army” which is similar to the PC game Arma.
Tbh I can see infantry units who work in squads use this game to help them get a better grasp on breaching doors and being more aware of your surroundings.
doors don't exist in the world of vr
So what I’m getting is that onward is more realistic when it comes to how easily a bullet could kill you
Marvellous video sir, I've been putting money aside for an Index for a while and should be able to afford one either next month or the one after and I'll be getting both of these!
@@murphmusic6671 I just hope it doesn't come back in stock just to sell out for a few months the day before I have the cash!
Hows it holding up?
Video: at 25.00 each
Me: *Laughs in quest*
SkeloOnRR are either on quest?
Well onward will be soon
leetlebob it’s free on sidequest. Onward comes out for 20$ on July 30th
Pavlov shack is hot garbage.
Have you played it?
Suggestion: Put the name of the game over the footage to make it less confusing
Yeah I got confused on a few clips whether they were Pavlov or onward
Pavlov is now on the oculus shop now but it’s a app lab game
Pavlov - more casual and has fun casual game modes
Onward - realistic tactical game
"You have to get the sight in a perfect place to be able to see through them" This is how it should be, just like in real life.
@Adrian Medina That's what I says, mister :D
yea especially with high magnification scopes
Pavlov is a little superior for having support for the Razer Hydras x'D
That's how I'm playing atm
Pavlov: Counter Strike VR
Onward: Insurgency VR
@kroooassant yea but as an Oculus quest guy if onward really cames there that will be epic
mr pickle it’s coming on July 30th
@@cliffo55thegamerdog83 I will be the first to get my hand on it it's alot better then pavolv if you ask me
mr pickle and they kept on saying Pavlov was coming to the quest months ago but they aren’t even working on it anymore
@@cliffo55thegamerdog83 the Devs of pavlov arent by anymeans proactive there ain't even any good changes they did to the game since day 1 onward for me plays better maybe cause am an arma fanboy
I have a quest and I think I want to buy onward now, thanks!
Onward makes me feel like I’m fully in control of my actions and whatever gun I use is good how I use it.
Almost a year later - I can still safely say at least in Onward, you can find a game pretty much all hours of the day.
*chuckles in pavlov always having lobbies to play 24/7 due to GigaChad server list and "hide empty" filter*
I hope Pavlov shack gets updated it’s missing so much stuff like mods friends parties etc
In my opinion it has almost everything it needs but I feel like the modding and custom maps will be fixed when it releases fully
@@blairblar scopes
Buy Pavlov, there's so much more to it, than just the game itself. Through the ability for people to create custom maps on pavlov, so much custom modes have been created. There's stuff like Zombies, Prison Escape, TTT and much more. It's kinda like Gmod Multiplayer
TTT is soooooo fucking good
@@NovaTedd "load of custom maps" ok buddy...
Onward is more realistic
This was very helpful! Thank you
Very INFORMATIVE gameplay video , great job MIESTRO ! ! ! ! !
Him: recoil: me what did you expect there recoil in every single gun in game and irl
This is very good video c: i play Pavlov and wanna try Onward
I really like the Co op in Onward. People usually like to work together and communicate.
@@virtualinsider I'm a big fan I play on quest so I don't have pavlov or onward :-(
@@shonxx9109 Both are coming to Quest officially although you can play Pavlov right now in Beta form if you install it through side quest and its free I think.
Do you know if you can sideload steam games because I realy want half life alyx
@@shonxx9109 You an play steam games using the link cable but you will need a powerful PC to run them. Sideloading is just for games that Oculus wont allow on the store. There are some really good free stuff on sideload so you should check it out. I recommend Pavlov and Crisis Vrigade
Me: *laughs in sidequest*
Well great news everyone, pavlov shack vr beta is in the oculus store. It is free, however you do have to use app lab to get it. Tons of fun and has a very active player base. Just wanted to inform people that times have changed and it is now on the oculus store
QUALITY CONTENT RIGHT HERE! THANKS
So to sum it up PAVLOV is like VR Counter strike and ONWARD is like VR Insurgency, right?
Sounds about right.
Conclusion: Onward is more realistic and povlov is more on the enjoying side
Its up to preference
I really wish so many people didn't compare the two so much, they're completely different genres.
If i had to describe it simply:
Onward: sandstorm insurgency
Pavlov: a mix between cs:go and gmod
excellent video exactly what I needed thanks
"Onward vs Pavlov"
Quest users: Wha?
Pavlov: Shack is availiable via SideQuest. Basically everyone who owns a quest or quest 2 knows.
Pavlov = Rushers
Onward = Campers
Choose your poison. LOL
pavlov : arcade kiddies
onward: real men who love realism.
@@cykablyat8862 for real though, people underestimate and downgrade onward when it’s such a great tactical game that literally sends chills down my spine
@@thesovietdoggo9525 no mate the downgrade is better than the new updates
@@thesovietdoggo9525 its more tactical and harder and more realistic, the new updates came out to support oculus quest which made the game significantly worse than it was just so it can be played on the quest too, and it became more arcady because everyone knows theres gonna be a ton of kids on oculus quest
@@cykablyat8862 I meant downgrade as I’m not giving it enough love, but absolutely I agree
I wanted to get pavlov but it's not available on quest so I'm getting onward.
Same
Onward is very fun
Pavlov is actually in beta on oculus for free so that’s pretty cool
I've Both, But having the Quest 2 and a lot of playspace, Onward was the best choice, insanely fun
"The correct answer is to buy each, but for $25 each it's not always possible."
Me:"Bruh you spent $300 minimum and you don't have $50!?"
Uh no because we just spent $300. Are you even paying attention??
“Pavlov isn’t on the oculus store
Oculus app lab: am I a joke to you
This video is a year old dumbnut
steam vr intensifies
Yea pavlov needs a lower time to kill. I just run around with a knife and dominate on tdm because it takes to long to kill me and I can kill them in one hit with the knife
Headshot kills pretty fast so opponents just have to get gud... It helps a lot if u improve ur aim
“includes the original call of duty zombie World War II maps” ... my soul...
I really like the insane detail on the Pavlov guns and how they’re reloads work, much more than onward, but I like onwards strategic element, Pavlov is more casual and onward is more like a milsim, I really don’t like some of its reloads and stuff though, like the bolt action feels fin is my and weird, compared to Pavlov’s far smoother bolt actions, so I like them both I guess, if I could have pavlovs gun detail and features with onwards gameplay and recoil I would be so happy
Pc vr users: "should i buy Pavlov or onward."
Meanwhile Quest users: " I'll side load Pavlov and buy onward"
onward is better it has better gunplay time to kill and everything
ARE YOU HIGH PAVLOV IS FREE ON THE QUEST
@@FrostiIcicle xD fucking quest get the fuck outa here ya virgin
pavlov feels like it's no where near finished.
Which is why it's still in early access stages.
It’s not. The future is bright. The developer has a small team, and that makes things slower, but they are working on a world war 2 update soon so that will be v cool.
Exactly it has so much potential
and such a big modding and workshop community making custom modes and maps
And also the appearance when holding guns in onward is 10x better
Thats an awfully familiar airport at 3:24
How many of us are watching this with out even owning vr setup lol
lol does my psvr count? 😅
Both games are good! I do prefer Onward for the tactical gameplay.
Just so everyone knows, onward on quest has a very healthy player base now. I would guess it is over 1000 at any given moment easily now.
they're both so good. different tones entirely.
edit: that being said, i own at pavlov online and i'm too scared to even try the Onward PvP
@Nasier Parker too sweaty
Pavlov is on sale right now for 5 bucks!
I haven't played Onward yet, having an absolute blast with Pavlov. It's really casual but it can be fun. Hoping to try Onward out some time.
I like Onwards controlled recoil more because it’s assuming you’re trained to manage weapon recoil. I’d assume special forces would know how to do that.
Ye but not everyone just trying to play a shooter is in the special forces
Game modes of pavlov combined with the gun play and realism of onward would make the perfect game
I have only seen onward with quest 2 graphics... holy shit it looks beautiful
Respect That Hes Reviewing 2 VR Games… But still playing CSGO Music
Thank you for this. Halloween sale just dropped and led me here =) Thumbed up!