01/08/22. Massey Ferguson 5S 145. So does it cut the mustard?
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2022
- First impressions of this machine were, "Its a looker" It certainly talks the talk, but will it walk the walk? A few days collecting and hauling bales has helped me form an opinion that may have even surprised me a bit.
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Thanks for sharing all the things you do
Thanks Ian. Take care.
Good, honest review - still a cracking piece of kit!
Great video Ian a brilliant review
Buy it!! A Massey with a Sisu engine?? What do you want more? 😉
Evening ian, great content again cheers 😄
The Yorkshireman in me keeps shout “but how much is that!!” 🤣🤣🤦♂
Good evening Mr. P. I think that was a very fair and honest review I'm sure most of the niggles could be sorted not sure I like the buddy seat just being that steering wheel a different no no. But in the end it is what you are comfortable with, the cost, after sales service and of course what Mrs. P. thinks. Keep well and stay safe.
am a big massey fan and would choose it every time
Ive enjoyed your tractor reviews 👍 ! I tested in 2018 nh t6 & mf 5713sl both were ok looked at a deer . Im so glad i went for a fendt 313 .
Lots to think about considering the expense but you still looked better in blue xx
Nice one Ian! I thought that was a fair review! Some of the quirks you just get used to the rocky ride is due to travelling with the loader in the air, I always drive with it down apart from coming in and out of gateways our 77 loader tractor is the same anyway cheers for the review it's nice to see what non massey people think 👍
Nice one Farmer P
another great vid Ian, and I would say a very fair review. I do like the Massey (and the colour matches your trailer) but I've just looked back at two vids you did with the T5 and I must say that is a lovely machine, also you seemed very much at home in the T5 even with the new electronics lol, and wow it is so quiet in the T5. but at the end of the day you are the man parting with the cash and you know what is needed for your farm and the future. one thing I do know it's a difficult choice you have to make and of course what sort of deal they can offer you. brilliant vids keep em coming👍
You actually did better with it than I thought you would. If you did go through with a new tractor it would be interesting to see a post sale price comparison. It just wouldn't be fair on anyone to make that public knowledge beforehand. My feeling is that the MF is going to be the dearest package of the lot, but I'm probably wrong. Thanks for sharing what you can of the buying process.
Hello from the Netherlands and thanks for the video. Sincerely, Hollandduck
Ian the strange movement causing giddiness could be to do with the tyres,they do like to bounce slightly different rubbers and different pressure, worth a look it's probably my favourite so far.
You should ask for a commission from these companies for reviewing the tractors. You did a good detailed job for possible potential buyers of these tractors
A very fair assessment that young man. Remember, when you buy any product there are niggly things that could eventually lead to irritation. And as such the niggles come with a cost.
Are you just looking at the Case, New Holland and Massey Ferguson or will you get a John Deere 6120m to compare?
I drove a Fendt a few times and that was like canoeing down a river. I hated it.
Top video squire!
Good unbiased review of the tractor. A few little niggles which im sure could be rectified. Be good to have a Chandlers engineer with you for a couple of hours to go through the machine and set iit up to your requirements. When I worked on Masseys, I would always go through the basics of a tractor with the operator, and then after a few days go back and address any queries they may have. Most of the quality brands have good products, so sure your decision will come down to price, dealership and any freebies they want to throw at you. Sponsored by (insert dealership name here) decals on the bonnet might even get you a better deal.
Great review… very fair and interesting. I’d buy a 5S 145 if I could afford it, but in reality I lucky to have a 5455. Keep up the good work.
we have had that model ever since massey did them and we do plough with a 5 furrow reversible dowdeswell and I will admit we did put 300kg weight and the tractor never bat an eye for power blooming good tractor
Nice little review you and Mr Cornock gave Chandlers some good publicity. Who knows what santa will bring at Christmas
I reckon that T5 is calling loud in your ear Mr P 😊
A very good Friday evening on a hot day
You should be the man to give reviews from all the tractor companies. It didn't feel overwhelming positive or negative. It just felt honest. Fair play it didn't feel honest for a publication. It felt honest for the man that has to use it. If a tractor company believes in their tractor they should let you review it.
I read some comments. Someone else brought it up. You pointed out the little things that get irritating after a while. I think that's what I like. You reviewed it as a farmer.
Definitely the best looking tractor.
Mr. P when I buy my next vehicle can you come and give it a good once over all kidding aside if and when you pick it will be the best your money 💰 will buy. Great video can't wait to see what Abbi thinks. Stay safe and healthy.
Great video. Your right with the steering wheel you spend a lot of time using it.. you say regularly doing 44 /45 kph but your not interested in a 50 k box , now i know its more money and it has to be justified but that shows that if you did have a 50 k box you'd probably happily do 46 or 48. Kph where you could. Happy tractor hunting
Great video once again Ian 👍 I’d sudgest blue or the next color of red as I’m definitely not biased 😂
Hi Ian, I like your Report on likes and dislikes I am still Waiting for the one with a kitchen sink you all may Laugh but I have just seen a Combine harvester with a kitchen sink, Well Ian you take care of yourself and stay safe and well.🚜🚜👍⭐️⭐️
Hi Ian, re loading of trailer. I think you did right by keeping the weight forward, ie, nearer the tractor. Loading the top bales at the rear of the trailer, would only increase the "pendulum effect" and make the side to side yawing even worse. I did some class 1 work years ago and with a wagon and drag, loaded out of Belgium back to the UK with a well known, Swedish furniture brand. Like an idiot, I loaded the trailer first and then the wagon. Big mistake. The ride back to the UK was horrendous with the side to side yawing of the trailer. Lesson learned for sure, load the tractor first and keep the trailer as light as possible.
Another good video Ian , still think you'll go with the blue
There is a hidden storage space in the back of the buddy seat. A normal cabin has the ventilation openings better spread over the roof. This cab also has a fridge compartment in the roof. At the back of the Grammer seat, there is often a storage compartment.
Hi Ian, the rear mirror has been fitted on the wrong side of the rear window. I have a video on my channel of the 5S.145 pulling a 5 furrow reversible vari-width plough easily. Great review thank you 👍
I did say to Phil it seemed odd to have the mirror on the opposite side to the controls….. unless you can spin your head like an owl🦉 😄
Thanks for Sharing 👍💯👍
Great review sir,massey very good tractor,but then they will all be good, can't wait to see kubota.
... think I got from this was that the outside, the working end of things including the cab ride and controls got higher rankings and the down sides were the creature comforts inside the cab .... would imagine the waking up of the hydraulics, when it is sleeping is not putting load on the engine and not burning more fuel .... had to wonder when you pointed out the vents, (AC is cold and cold sinks, hot rises so you would have a hot head in the winter) how would the defrost work, from the top vents would that be enough to get the glass all the down past the dash clear .... like how pointed out the getting used to things ..... thxx for the share FP .. as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ...
Hello Farmer P 😊..... The most important decision has been made (Biskit likes her seat). That is the main hurdle sorted. The rest is up to you. Personally, I think you had less gripes about the T5. One thing is certain, judging from the comments... THE STEERING WHEEL MUST GO 😀!!!!
There was a comment remarking on the possibility of a cow with it's head stuck. See from 9.30. She looks comfortable enough. Probably being quizzy with you in the tractor. They are quizzy beasts, aren't they. I think they suffer from FOMO 😂🐂
Thank you for another very interesting video. I do like the tractor reviews 👌👍🙂.
Take care and hug for Biskit 🤗🐶❤️
I know you mentioned it when you first got it, but having used the tractor, what are your thoughts on the door pillar getting in the way when hedge trimming? Do you think you'll be able to adjust technique to suit, or will it be an issue?
She’s a good looking tractor. Always loved a Massey
Good video honest review Ian 🤔 as you say the niggles that you have would probably disappear if you were in it every day 🤔 apart from the hook visibility 👍👍
Very good review Ian intrigued to see the case and the kubota New holland is still winning for me at the moment. Massey ferguson didn't float my boat.
I think you can order an ventilation box on the right side of the cabin its big but you can Get out of that door like the other one. On our 6718s its an box and its cooling down very fast. Hope you buy 5s😅
It does look the dogs cahooners 😁
Another great video has always farmer p ian and Mrs p Sam emma Abbi and holli and miss biskit miss crumble miss gypsy miss pepper and miss pickle 👍
Good honest review. As much as I like masseys to me that one is too complicated with all the buttons and features and a simpler tractor would probably suit you far more and be better long term too
Will the buddy seat effect how the hedge trimmer controls are mounted? I think someone already asked about seeing the side post for hedge work. Overall, I like hearing your review. Be fun to see the Case 125, and what Kubota can offer as well.
Good honest review 👍
What's it like on backend with weight in front?
ie.would you need rear weight when moving stuff on front!
Also the blue sticker Infront of you needs to go!
Thanks👍
A very good review. A small adjustments off the old
Farmer. It comes down what the Mrs says . Mrs p will gave to see the numbers and the best deal. We will see what the farmer may choose from his wife.
Hya Ian, how was the consumption of fuel compared with others you seemed to think it was revving higher. Nice machine. Cheers Roddy.
nothing wrong with being picky with the steering wheel, you will afterall be spending hours using it, and if it feels uncomfortable then its a sticking point, cant say as i like it that much,and i am a massey fan, overall it does seem that you got on with it a lot better than you thought
yeah one of the road sections of you driving the massey the front moved independently from the cab and it made me feel like it would trigger my motion sickness easily.
Try a few more brands, we are all enjoying this! There's John Deere, Claas, Deutz, McCormick, Valtra, that would provide another months fun at least and who knows one of these might be better than the old favourites.
If you get chance Ian .You could have a look on you tube on land power TV , massey ferguson 5S 125 .theres a video but the more simple model 5S video from 11 months ago .Maybe help you look at options for the 5S. Its a nice and simple good tractor .
Mike
Just one more thing to add, when you do hedge cutting where is the control unit going, I know on the case it's somewhat bolted to the buddy seat.
Plus you mentioned that the pillar would restrict your view of your mower xx
Evening farmer p mum p abbi holli emma sam bisskit and ur other dogs
Great vlog as always
I like the t5 tractor 4 u as it got the grabber thing at the front and thats a bonus cos u dont need to take ur tractor and then the trailer over to ur dads when ur getting ur bails
Also i love red
I started ur tractor funds and i hope it helps may b others mite help to
Which tractor do u think is best 4 u?
Also u have to think about ur back at ur time of life and u dont want to b bouncing up and down in the tractor seat do u
Thanks again 4 the great weekend it was amazing and u did great and mum p and holli were out of this world amazing and they didnt stop all day so please thank them 4 me
Love u guys❤❤❤
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If you like the 5s, try having a look at a Valtra G series. Its essentally the same tractor in a different outfit and cab, from what you've mentioned the Valtra cab may solve alot of the niggles you had with the Massey though.
Hi farmer P iv a 6715s massey great tractor lover it I find when driving with the loader up leaves the tractor wavy or sea sick motion as you say but very comfortable tractor.im not a fan of dyna 4 iv a dyna 6 which in my opinion is more similar to the dynamic command with I think there both great gear box's very smooth. Any the 3 you are testing are all quality tractors it will come down to price and preference and back up but that case with that electrocommand gear box is not a good job horrible gear box but case do the same gearbox as the dynamic command I think it's called active 8.
You would have a problem locating the mounting bracket for ,the hedge trimmer on the left hand side of the cab, you cannot do anything with the buddy seat, it didn’t appear to fold down when not required.
Quick question, where would you put the mount for your hedge cutter controls? Probably would have to make a mount , detachable coming out from the door pillar 🤔
I didn't realise that you have been growing mustards
Surprised that you didn't make any mention of the fuel economy in such dire times Ian. You did mention that it was using far more revs at the same road speed on your last bale collection video! Just a thought? 🤔
Does not sound like your heart was in this one 🤔👍
You could fit a camera for the hitch. I looked at a new Massey at the last outdoor lamma that flimsy feeling storage lid was broken off already on the tractor I looked at.
We have run masseys for years and a lot of what you say is spot on but beware of new holland the pick up hitch is not good,they don't always click in as our neighbour found out when his trailer came off going up a hill,lucky no one was behind it as it ended up on its side.The shuttle is also a bit wierd compared to massey,four winds farm doesn't like the steering wheel or the radios on their massey,good luck getting a deal on one of the tractors
Great review once again Ian. I,m presuming all dealers offer very similar warranty/extended warranty/servicing and regular maintenance costings. With spending such a huge amount of money maybe a solicitor could weigh up the small print for a few pounds ? But you will know which dealer you can trust. Good look and whoever designed that blessed steering wheel needs sacking. No use nor ornament
@Stephen Birds.... Couldn't agree more.... that steering wheel has got to go and it's designer 💣💥😖
Should be a 8.5/10 for matching your trailer
At 9:30 onwards , is that animals head stuck in the fence again lol =-)
Your running a business Ian , head should rule the heart when purchasing new products . Some with lots of spare cash go for ultimate bling .
I know you are planning ahead for at least another 20 years 👍 your current tractor might not make the grade so will have to be replaced sooner rather than later ?
Do you need a brand new tractor costing around £64 k OUCH ! But you have mentioned second hand tractors are very expensive at the moment .
Decisions decisions good luck .
Does it have brake shoes in all 4 corners or still brake off the 4wd?, Dynamic preselects the gear you are going into and basically has it ready for you why its so smooth i think Deere have something similar not sure, i love newhollands start stop pedal very handy, Massey has some good features, the cab does look ultra cramped which is kinda weird nowadays
I wonder if we will see any other manufacturers such as John Deere or another Agco tractor. Thanks for your thoughts on the different tractors. I must ask Masey Ferguson how much to recharge the ac on my TED20 😆 as it isn't very cold in this weather.
So its capable, can do the job but comes down to the price and which dealer offers the best deal.
The Massy looks ok but blue is the colour, the cab looked far superior to the Massy
Would like to see your thoughts on the Claas arion. We have an Arion 460 and absolutely love it. Plenty of power under the bonnet and very comfortable both on and off road
Hopefully we will be trying one 🤞🏼
I don’t know if you have a dealer nearby Ian but I’ve seen some great reviews of the bigger kubota and zetor tractors.
i still say you gunna go for the case... if they make a damn good offer with a part X.
Where would the hedge cutter controls go?
You should try a Zetor 😃.
Hi Ian, If the interior set up of the Massey seems a but to over the top remember there are 3 levels of cab setups you can get. Essential (one arm rest with the loader joystick and the gear leave is then placed on the side panel left hand side of the 2 manual spools you have in that model) Then you have Efficient (Which i believe is the current model you are demoing) then Exclusive (all bells and whistles from a touch screen monitor with GPS fitted to full electric Spools and fully kitted out armrest) Each cab level can be equipped with certain things you would want. for example you could have the exclusive model with a screen and manual spools or electric depending on your requirements. All i will say is DO NOT be intimidated by Tech! most Tech that is fitted to tractors now are actually to Aid the Operators to get the best out of there machines! How ever Old School is still the Right School! Love the vids and i hope you are well!
Aaron =)
Im not in the market for a new tractor but I like these vids non the less :)
However I still think you should also have a look at Valtra, not the A series with the 3 cyl engines but perhaps the G would be perfect for you.
Or are Valtra to expensive in the UK or is it an issue with no dealers within range?
Our neighbour have always used Ford and now New Holland and is well pleased with those. He runs 2 t7s for manure and baling in his company and a old 5610 ford in the woods on the home farm.
👍
Good honest review there Ian. How did you find the fuel consumption in the end.
Pretty good actually, but as it didn’t come with a full tank I had no way to measure it.
A red tractor matches the flat bed trailer you have. That's all I know about tractors 🚜.
dont think that knob on the case is for holding onto its for closing the door so im sure you could mount one onto the pole there without having to drill into anything, for the steering wheel im sure they could give you and old series one which would suit you perfect, the mirror seems easily changed to the pother side if needs be
Or if your favorite UA-cam farmer lets one go.😁
Personally I would want to get them to ree configure the gearbox starting gears and do another test drive before parting cash.
Looks a nice machine overall, I'm surprised at the lack of floor vents seems a bit odd id give the cold draft down the neck a swerve!
Hi Ian, You do have a list of Questions to go through with the dealer, plus take onboard the radiator overheat problem as you didn't do any heavy field work.
I think some time with the operators manual would answer more that someone running through a list of items.
I do wonder about designers, do they ever consult the end users. Or have the ever worked machine let alone tried to service or repair one. Saw a video of a filter change on a John Deere and it took for ever just to get at it. Plus the cost was John Expensive.
As you say the biggest question is the price, then work back from that. Your brain must be doing summersaults with all the gadgets and info.
Take care.
Like that review very positive in place but could adjust none positive features good though
Your not wrong... been driving masseys since I was a kid and don't really notice any of the stuff you've noticed 😂😂
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The only thing that I noticed is where would you put the control mechanism for the hedge trimmer if seat don't fold?
Hi Mr P
🤔add a backup camera for the hitch
Is there anything you can do cut out redirect pipes or what ever to make seeing the tow hitch easier Ian. From listening to your review that was the only real black mark that stood out everything else could be changed one way or another. In the old days of the Ford 7000 it was lift arms right up yank on lever behind seat then hang out the back window looking for the eye on the trailer, implements what ever lift and almost hope you were In the right place and listen for the hollow thud 👍
I would say the Case will be a better deal for you because they will want to keep your custom but would guess the New Holland is the most expensive of the 3. Be intresting to see how they pan out After you have made your decision 👌
Worst things with the vents are in the winter
Why don't you try a valtra ? Absolutely love mine, went from massey to valtra purely because of Agcos route 66.
Where would you put the controls for your hedge trimmer. don't look like there would be any where easy to put it.
the door mechanism if its the same as in ours, which it looks to be, should get softer over time its just stiff because its new