I’m confused a little bit. Truly curious. You said you didn’t want to use APSC cuz of no 4K but you’ve got an APSC lens? Aside from price what’s the benefit of this over Tamrons 11-20mm?
I've used the 10-18mm on APS-C cameras a lot and i haven't considered using it on my full frame bodies. I'll check it out. I wouldn't call it "super sharp", it's one of the worst lenses I've owned for sharpness, but it's fine on video (4k)
Fantastic video! You’re the first person I’ve seen feature the 10-18 apsc on the full frame and explain its benefits and flaws for videography. Have been shooting with this lens on my a6500 for years now and eagerly waiting for my ZV E1 to arrive next week and happy to see I can still get away with using this lens when needing to go ultra wide.
Yo Micah, huge congrats on getting monetized!!! I love the mentality around this. Something like the 10-18mm can fit your wide angle needs until you decide to upgrade (or not) in the future. There's always gear rentals if you need access to nicer glass! My A7IV shoots aps-c crop in 4k60p anyways, so I've been seriously considering getting APS-C crop lenses for specific applications where I know I'll want to use 4k60p. For web content IMO, the image quality still looks great, so as long as we're aware of the cons of the setup, I'd say why not?!
Congratulations on reaching monetization! This is my first time checking out your video, and I’m genuinely pleased I did. Your authenticity really stands out, and I enjoyed the content. You’ve gained a new subscriber!
This is a great hack. I ended up going with Sony 12-24 G F4. I just got it today. I see the inability to use filters mentioned as a drawback, but I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to use an ND with this lens. In wide shots I don't need or want shallow depth of field, so I'll just close down the iris in bright situations.
Hows the vignetting when using a screw on ND filter with this lens? I have an 82mm variable nd filter with step up ring. The larger 82mm ND filter should alleviate sooome vignetting, right?
@@JohannBeute the vignetting from this lens has nothing to do with ND. And it doesn’t matter which size filter you have, youd want to make sure the nd you’re using has the anti x coating I think it’d called
@@MicahPowell Thanks for the response! I could have phrased my question better, as I know the vignetting has nothing to do with an ND filter, but the lenses image circle. What I was actually asking, was if you added an 82mm screw on ND filter with step up ring to this lens, what the additional vignetting caused by the ND filter would look like at 10, 11, or 12mm. Would you just straight up see the filter, have crazy dark spots creeping into the frame, or would it be usable and look good? (seeing as 82mm is a lot larger than the 62mm front filter thread of this lens it gives me hope that it would be usable). I'm only going to be using this lens for video and want to keep a 180 shutter, and as you know there's nothing wider than 16mm for full frame with a front filter thread. So this lens is EXTREMELY appealing to me, as being able to ND a 12mm full frame lens with only a screw on filter and no need for a mattebox is huge for me, as literally nothing else like this exists (as far as I know.) I have a NiSi truecolor VND, and both Polar Pros PMKii signature vnds, if that's of any help as to what filter I'm using. I also have all of NiSi's 4 x 5.65" Nano IRND solid filters but that requires a matte box, which I'm sure you'll see at 12mm.
Hey man ! Love this content by far the best "10-18mm full frame Apsc lens" review ! By the way I gotta ask, if u are vlogging while walking with this lens, will the shake caused by walking gonna make the vignette show up at the corners from time to time ? Or we just have to zoom in close enough and this won't happen
The best focal length for my copy is around 13mm. I have been using it with the original a7 since 2015. Nowadays, I have switched to a Laowa 9mm f/5.6.
Rented this lens for a gig and ended up falling in love with it. Watched your video then went on eBay and got one for $450! ($400 + tax/shipping) You weren’t lying when you said you can find them for that cheap! haha excited to get it and start shooting! Great video my man 🤘🏾
a 10-18mm f/4 behaves like 15-27 f/5.6 on full frame. I'd prefer to go with the native full frame 16-35mm f/4 then which is pretty close in price, at least where I live
@@MicahPowell You're right, you are indeed starting from 10-18 before you're cropping in, but you have to crop in around 30-40% to remove the vignette depending on where you are in the zoom range: 40% at 10mm and 30% at 18mm, so it's more like a 14-23mm F6 full frame equivalent - but even after this crop, you still have some more corrections to do in post. I personally don't find the footage very pleasing at 14mm (post crop). A true full frame 14mm would indeed be bigger / heavier and more expensive. But do you find that 16mm is not wide enough for your work? - I find that to be the sweet spot for real-estate personally.
Hey, I have UA-cam premium and watch probably 40+ hrs / week while at work in background and I have to say; your production on this video with added effects .. 👌 I have this for my A7iii and just wanted to see some follow up input for what I'll be attempting in the future and stumbled on your video and had to drop this compliment.
i don't see a lot of people talking about latosa 10-18 full frame, I know it is f4 or lower and fully manual but no vignetting and distortions it works absolutely perfect
Hey I have the same setup but I noticed a lot of grain at 12,800 with the 10 18 mm doing real estate videos what's your recommending settings for shooting real estate video
I think the 16-35 f/4 is a much better option. I know it's a little more expensive (I've seen it as low as $500), but it's pretty close to a no-compromise full frame lens. It addresses every issue you mentioned here. That was my go-to lens when I shot real estate.
Yeah…No OSS. If you have a full frame with pretty good stabilization its not that big a deal, but for Sony APSC shooters, unless you have the A6700 or fx30 there aren’t many APSC cameras with good IBIS.
As budget goes you can probably pick up a Sigma 10-20mm for sub 100$ if you realy need a zoom. Otherwise just grabb a MF or AF 14mm f/2.8 Samyang. Funny thing, there actualy IS a full frame 10-18mm at a similar price. The Laowa 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 FE
I haven't used this lens recently but if I remember correctly, setting the a7S III to APS-C mode doesn't downgrade the video resolution. After all, APS-C cameras are also capable of shooting in UHD
while this would be correct for any of the other sony A7 series, (A7R, A7) the A7S3's sensor is only a 12mp sensor, which is a little higher than 4k. so if you use apsc mode, its cropping in 1.5x into the 4k sensor. that's why its limited to 1080p. you CANNOT shoot 4k at apsc crop on a7s3.
Or could just buy a laowa 10-18mm for full frame Sony. I use that on my Sony A7R3 . It’s a 100 percent manual lens but the sharpness and quality is excellent. Going for like $500 now or less
Hi there ,absolutely loved it, Would really appreciate if u can answer my one question! Will it have any problems shooting in slog-3 in a7s3? Jus about to buy so thought of clearing this out
Hello Thank you for this information. Does it affect video quality while using aps-c lenses on full frame cameras???? Can you kale detail video on it sir
Hey brotha, great video! Was curious what’s your settings for vlogging? As someone who loves to vlog, I’m curious how would you have your settings for A7iii?
Sick video, easy to resonate with you and your channel. Not many creators do that nowadays, I feel like they are very "generic" Supporting from Greece! -Alexander S.
The rokinon 14mm full frame lens is a way better option … it’s on Amazon used for 138$ right now it’s not autofocus but it’s a ultra wide doesn’t need to be but another downside is no filters … but I made a filter out of window tinting paper for a nd
Thanks for the review! I'm looking to get this lens, I also have the A7siii which is a low-light beast. Would you say the F4 is not an issue when shooting in S-log 3 (12,800 iso) or even S-Cinetone (2000 iso)?
Can Tamron 11-20mm f/2.8 Di III-A RXD also be used the same way ? What about Sony's new 10-20 f4 power zoom ? Your video just opened a lot new possibilities !!
only a few APS-C lenses will work reasonably well on FF, this being virtually the only one that really makes sense to buy. even then, i grabbed one from amazon and returned it, opted for a real FF, the 16-35 Zeiss F4, which I found for $400 used, in virtually new condition... i think far better deals are to be had w used lenses over this, since the new 16-35 PZ AND new 16-35 GMv2 came out, if you really need wider than 16 I'd get a used Sigma 14-24... it's FF and f2.8 as well, much better than this lens, which is just plastic-y imo
Hi. I am new in photography and videography. Can I use that lens for Sony zv-e10? If not, can you recommend a budget friendly lens for real estate photography? Thank you
You're copping in about 40-50% to remove the vignette, so your 60mp becomes more like a 30-35mp. You're also looking at an equivalent of about an F6. It also has negative side effects such as the IBIS being less effective and forget about in body lens corrections, you have to do that all in post. There are a lot of limitations, I don't think it's worth it personally.
Nice info about how it actually looks on FF camera! I was in the similar position when I was trying to find an ultra-wide lens for a7r2. Unfortunately just like you said, most of the options are for APS-C, and FF options are just insanely expensive. The manual primes sounds good but just unusable for a daily driver. Finally I jumped the wagon on Tamron 17-28, which is very great. F2.8 and comparable optics performance with GM (at least from some of the review) didn't make it cheap, but at least makes it justifiable. IF I were to know that this one works kind of OK on Full Frame, I'd probably just go with it. It's cheap like a toy, with the new 10-20 it could only become cheaper and cheaper in the used market. An interesting thing is a7r2 is 42MP, the 4k actually works best when in the Crop/Super35/APS-C mode, the image quality is just insane. Clean like being washed by water (in a good way). BUT you lose the wide end, 17 on tamron becomes 24 again, which is "normal" but not "wide", 24 on things like 24-70 becomes 35, which is NARROW in most of the circumstance. For me the ultra-wide perspective definitely worth more than the marginal IQ improvement, so I ended up with 4k full-frame mode almost all time. I'm for most of the time a still shooter, so the tamron 17-28 makes sense to me. But later I think you probably should upgrade to something like an 61MP a7r4, r5, or the now cheaper 42MP r3, if the video specs meets the minimum of your demand. I can probably guess why you got the a7s at first place, because it's at all a full frame, and you did a lot of video. People said this is to be for the video and performs best in low light. All the checkboxes are ticked. And most importantly, the price for all these seems acceptable. Probably you may also thought it's "easier" to get "wider" at Full Frame, because 24 is finally a 24 not a 35, so theoretically it's easier to get a wide angle on a FF. There's just only one problem: you haven't checked the FF wide lens price yet. However just like you said yourself, you do a lot of real estate videos professionally, which doesn't involve a lot of critical lighting conditions -- nothing a tad increase of ISO could not fix, and no one's pixel peaking for that. After all most real estate does not involve a dungen. It has lights all over the place and when you want to showcase for it, you want to turn all those lights on. So in my view you just threw the biggest advantage of the a7s, in exchange for an unusable 1080P crop mode, which you might actually need. Full frame is not for you, at least professionally. So if I were you I'd either up my game to A7R to take full advantage of the FULL FRAME sensor size by having the ridiculously HIGH RESOLUTIONS -- which opens a whole new world for landscape and everything. Especially if you have a nice screen like the 5k iMac, you just can't go back. The is the correct way to take full advantage of your other expensive GM lens. The optics resolution can only go as sharp as the sensor resolution goes. Plus now you have a very usable 4k crop/super35 mode. The image is down sampled from 8k or 6k, it can just be as good as the a7s. Or I'll just back my game to something like a ZV-E10, which I'd bet it ticks every box you need when you do your profesional real estate shooting. Just don't forget to put it on a huge gimbal to look "pro" to your clients!
Another option is getting a Sony E to Canon EF adapter and then buying a used 11-24mm F4 lens. Since it's designed for Full Frame completely you can go to 11mm wide without vignetting. There's also now a 10mm F2.8 lens if you need even wider than that.
@@MicahPowell it depends on the adapter you use, and unfortunately, since Sony would prefer for you to use E Mount lenses, your gonna want to update the firmware on your adapter regularly. The two ones I can confidently recommend are the EF to E Mount adapter that Sigma makes, or the ND Throttle Fusion Canon EF to Sony E Mount adapter. The first one is just known for being fairly reliable since it's from a high profile Sony partner, and a latter option is also pretty reliable, but comes with a built-in variable ND filter.
I’m confused a little bit. Truly curious. You said you didn’t want to use APSC cuz of no 4K but you’ve got an APSC lens? Aside from price what’s the benefit of this over Tamrons 11-20mm?
I've used the 10-18mm on APS-C cameras a lot and i haven't considered using it on my full frame bodies. I'll check it out. I wouldn't call it "super sharp", it's one of the worst lenses I've owned for sharpness, but it's fine on video (4k)
Also rokinon has a 14mm
Title says full frame lens, is actually aps-c
Yet it covers a full frame sensor
There are better options at that focal length.
Fantastic video! You’re the first person I’ve seen feature the 10-18 apsc on the full frame and explain its benefits and flaws for videography.
Have been shooting with this lens on my a6500 for years now and eagerly waiting for my ZV E1 to arrive next week and happy to see I can still get away with using this lens when needing to go ultra wide.
Thanks Kim!!
they're actually called ultrawide!
Yo Micah, huge congrats on getting monetized!!!
I love the mentality around this. Something like the 10-18mm can fit your wide angle needs until you decide to upgrade (or not) in the future. There's always gear rentals if you need access to nicer glass!
My A7IV shoots aps-c crop in 4k60p anyways, so I've been seriously considering getting APS-C crop lenses for specific applications where I know I'll want to use 4k60p. For web content IMO, the image quality still looks great, so as long as we're aware of the cons of the setup, I'd say why not?!
Sorry but you started by saying that its a full frame lense, but its APS-c lens! Thumbs down.
You might wanna watch the video 🤷🏻♂️
Congratulations on reaching monetization! This is my first time checking out your video, and I’m genuinely pleased I did. Your authenticity really stands out, and I enjoyed the content. You’ve gained a new subscriber!
you can get rid of some of the vignetting by removing the rear baffle, like 3 screws or something
This is a great hack. I ended up going with Sony 12-24 G F4. I just got it today. I see the inability to use filters mentioned as a drawback, but I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to use an ND with this lens. In wide shots I don't need or want shallow depth of field, so I'll just close down the iris in bright situations.
if u use the active stabilization option, at 10mm , do u know what mm it becomes lowest and highest ? for full frame fx3. thanks
Please suggest a blurry effect budget lens for real estate tour hosting for my Sony ZV-E10 camera i have a sony 11mm for landscape videography
Why would you put full frame in the title if its an APSC lens......
You should watch the video 🤷🏻♂️
Hows the vignetting when using a screw on ND filter with this lens? I have an 82mm variable nd filter with step up ring. The larger 82mm ND filter should alleviate sooome vignetting, right?
@@JohannBeute the vignetting from this lens has nothing to do with ND. And it doesn’t matter which size filter you have, youd want to make sure the nd you’re using has the anti x coating I think it’d called
@@MicahPowell Thanks for the response! I could have phrased my question better, as I know the vignetting has nothing to do with an ND filter, but the lenses image circle. What I was actually asking, was if you added an 82mm screw on ND filter with step up ring to this lens, what the additional vignetting caused by the ND filter would look like at 10, 11, or 12mm. Would you just straight up see the filter, have crazy dark spots creeping into the frame, or would it be usable and look good? (seeing as 82mm is a lot larger than the 62mm front filter thread of this lens it gives me hope that it would be usable). I'm only going to be using this lens for video and want to keep a 180 shutter, and as you know there's nothing wider than 16mm for full frame with a front filter thread. So this lens is EXTREMELY appealing to me, as being able to ND a 12mm full frame lens with only a screw on filter and no need for a mattebox is huge for me, as literally nothing else like this exists (as far as I know.) I have a NiSi truecolor VND, and both Polar Pros PMKii signature vnds, if that's of any help as to what filter I'm using. I also have all of NiSi's 4 x 5.65" Nano IRND solid filters but that requires a matte box, which I'm sure you'll see at 12mm.
Hey man ! Love this content by far the best "10-18mm full frame Apsc lens" review ! By the way I gotta ask, if u are vlogging while walking with this lens, will the shake caused by walking gonna make the vignette show up at the corners from time to time ? Or we just have to zoom in close enough and this won't happen
Can I attach my ultra wide converter still or is that only only going to fit my 18mm Prime lens
I have an a7iii and I zoomed out all the way, but don’t see the vignetting… I don’t understand why??? 😭
Brother it is not cheap in malaysia. Its subjective which country you buy
The best focal length for my copy is around 13mm. I have been using it with the original a7 since 2015.
Nowadays, I have switched to a Laowa 9mm f/5.6.
Rented this lens for a gig and ended up falling in love with it. Watched your video then went on eBay and got one for $450! ($400 + tax/shipping)
You weren’t lying when you said you can find them for that cheap! haha excited to get it and start shooting!
Great video my man 🤘🏾
a 10-18mm f/4 behaves like 15-27 f/5.6 on full frame. I'd prefer to go with the native full frame 16-35mm f/4 then which is pretty close in price, at least where I live
Actually it is a true 10-18mm as with the apsc sensors you’d have a 1.5x crop. So it’s not a 15-27mm whereas that’s what you’d see in native apsc.
Your function is incomplete !
@@MicahPowell You're right, you are indeed starting from 10-18 before you're cropping in, but you have to crop in around 30-40% to remove the vignette depending on where you are in the zoom range: 40% at 10mm and 30% at 18mm, so it's more like a 14-23mm F6 full frame equivalent - but even after this crop, you still have some more corrections to do in post. I personally don't find the footage very pleasing at 14mm (post crop).
A true full frame 14mm would indeed be bigger / heavier and more expensive. But do you find that 16mm is not wide enough for your work? - I find that to be the sweet spot for real-estate personally.
Hey, I have UA-cam premium and watch probably 40+ hrs / week while at work in background and I have to say; your production on this video with added effects .. 👌
I have this for my A7iii and just wanted to see some follow up input for what I'll be attempting in the future and stumbled on your video and had to drop this compliment.
Good nacho
i don't see a lot of people talking about latosa 10-18 full frame, I know it is f4 or lower and fully manual but no vignetting and distortions it works absolutely perfect
this is ridiculously helpful right now. just ordered from eBay and if I love it then you'll instantly have made a huge fan of me!
😃
damn everything seems so good until the MFD
I’d love to see you do this same video with the Sony 11mm F1.8 in the future. Subbed!
I’ll have to look into that!
Hey I have the same setup but I noticed a lot of grain at 12,800 with the 10 18 mm doing real estate videos what's your recommending settings for shooting real estate video
which camera are u shooting with?
I think the 16-35 f/4 is a much better option. I know it's a little more expensive (I've seen it as low as $500), but it's pretty close to a no-compromise full frame lens. It addresses every issue you mentioned here. That was my go-to lens when I shot real estate.
Does it have stabilization?
@@houseandlotinleytebystandy9205 yes.
Yeah…No OSS. If you have a full frame with pretty good stabilization its not that big a deal, but for Sony APSC shooters, unless you have the A6700 or fx30 there aren’t many APSC cameras with good IBIS.
@@Cthames123 the 16-35 f4 ZA definitely has oss
nice vid thanks! Subbed.
get r hands on sigma 10-18 f2.8 dc dn
Yes! I bought it for $500 and I love it!
love your microphone quality bro!
Wow another amazing video! I love you
No u bb
thanks for the vid! what about the sony 10-20 g master.. pretty amazing price too!
Yeah! The pricing is a bit more expensive but that may be a great lens!
Poor move😢
thanks bro! i see distortion to 18mm. this userful info!
Can i see somewhere your real estate video made with this?
hello?
As budget goes you can probably pick up a Sigma 10-20mm for sub 100$ if you realy need a zoom. Otherwise just grabb a MF or AF 14mm f/2.8 Samyang.
Funny thing, there actualy IS a full frame 10-18mm at a similar price. The Laowa 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 FE
İ like the vignette, creatively usable!
Unfortunately, everywhere I look the 10-18mm is not available.
Will look for them on the secondary market.
I got tired carrying full frame cameras and lenses around.
Switched to a Sony A6700. small bag. 11mm lives there...
I haven't used this lens recently but if I remember correctly, setting the a7S III to APS-C mode doesn't downgrade the video resolution. After all, APS-C cameras are also capable of shooting in UHD
while this would be correct for any of the other sony A7 series, (A7R, A7) the A7S3's sensor is only a 12mp sensor, which is a little higher than 4k. so if you use apsc mode, its cropping in 1.5x into the 4k sensor. that's why its limited to 1080p. you CANNOT shoot 4k at apsc crop on a7s3.
@@MicahPowellahhh I see. Thanks for the explanation. You’re only starting with 12mp to begin with.
@@Cthames123 exactly
@@MicahPowell But the 10-18 f4 is an apsc lens?!
@@robertmachtmusik you should WATCH THE VIDEO ❤️
Perfect for outdoor vlogging. My 17-28mm Tamron is not wide enough
Why are you saying no to apsc crop at first and then talk about that 10-18mm apsc lens...
You should watch the video
i did @@MicahPowell
if you did you'd understand.@@matrixmodulator
The background music is kinda high
No you
Amazing, is it vertical enough to shoot a whole house, or do you use more lenses
The back ground music is way to loud
No you.
Or could just buy a laowa 10-18mm for full frame Sony. I use that on my Sony A7R3 . It’s a 100 percent manual lens but the sharpness and quality is excellent. Going for like $500 now or less
Great video Micah! How sharp are photos in the corners in that 13-16mm?
Great review man. You can check out the viltrox 16mm 1.8 . This lens is amazing for its price. And its FF
Hey man. Just letting you know that the background music is too loud. Keep up the good work. ;)
Hi there ,absolutely loved it,
Would really appreciate if u can answer my one question!
Will it have any problems shooting in slog-3 in a7s3?
Jus about to buy so thought of clearing this out
Hello
Thank you for this information. Does it affect video quality while using aps-c lenses on full frame cameras???? Can you kale detail video on it sir
Hey brotha, great video! Was curious what’s your settings for vlogging? As someone who loves to vlog, I’m curious how would you have your settings for A7iii?
So, you are telling me these companies could be making wide angle lens for full frame for such cheap price…..but they don’t.
so beauty 😮
Sick video, easy to resonate with you and your channel. Not many creators do that nowadays, I feel like they are very "generic"
Supporting from Greece!
-Alexander S.
Amazing video my friend! Do you recomend for A7III? Salute from Argentina.
The rokinon 14mm full frame lens is a way better option … it’s on Amazon used for 138$ right now it’s not autofocus but it’s a ultra wide doesn’t need to be but another downside is no filters … but I made a filter out of window tinting paper for a nd
great stuff!
A lot of uses for this lens
Do u use it for a crop mode?
Delete this LOL not many people know about this lens
I have been looking at the new sigma 10-18 for using on my fullframe camera
pretty sure if u just use clear image zoom instead of apsc mode u dont lose any video quality. Also u could just crop in in post too
Hii nice vdo , and now the 11mm 1.8 released should i buy 10 18 mm or 11mm lens for my a7m4 , my use is for real estate and some vlogs
the sigma 10-18 would be better if buying new
Thanks for the review! I'm looking to get this lens, I also have the A7siii which is a low-light beast. Would you say the F4 is not an issue when shooting in S-log 3 (12,800 iso) or even S-Cinetone (2000 iso)?
i m wondering is the newer 10-20 power zoom better than this? its a bit more expensive but anyone used it?
Can Tamron 11-20mm f/2.8 Di III-A RXD also be used the same way ? What about Sony's new 10-20 f4 power zoom ? Your video just opened a lot new possibilities !!
only a few APS-C lenses will work reasonably well on FF, this being virtually the only one that really makes sense to buy.
even then, i grabbed one from amazon and returned it, opted for a real FF, the 16-35 Zeiss F4, which I found for $400 used, in virtually new condition... i think far better deals are to be had w used lenses over this, since the new 16-35 PZ AND new 16-35 GMv2 came out, if you really need wider than 16 I'd get a used Sigma 14-24... it's FF and f2.8 as well, much better than this lens, which is just plastic-y imo
Finally a great video about the 10-18mm thanks mate! Gonna order one straight away!
Thanx!
That's Super cool! and super lens it seems!
peter parker got the rub and tug music going on in the background
hi ! great video
i have a question :
what is the best also budget camera that would go well with this lens ?
anyways, love your online presence!!😍😍
3:24 the ambient music in the background..
Samyang 18 mm is great lens for it's value
Great content man!
I don’t do budget or Sony
No one asked
Hi. I am new in photography and videography. Can I use that lens for Sony zv-e10? If not, can you recommend a budget friendly lens for real estate photography? Thank you
Yes you can.
Hey Micah, I love your videos...great work buddy! I was wondering where you're getting your ambient music from? Super dramatic!
Hey there! I get all my music from MusicBed!
honestly, it is better than any other subscription service simply due to the quality of the music.
On a7r4 60mp photos, will the sharpness be same using 12-24 f4 fe lens and this lens ? Please make a comparison video if possible.
You're copping in about 40-50% to remove the vignette, so your 60mp becomes more like a 30-35mp. You're also looking at an equivalent of about an F6. It also has negative side effects such as the IBIS being less effective and forget about in body lens corrections, you have to do that all in post. There are a lot of limitations, I don't think it's worth it personally.
Wow thank you for this video…. Always wanted the wide lens but yeah not affordable….. so this is sick!
Man, thanks for this work! Il find the best price wide option for ff through the many years. Respect🤟
why not go with the irix 11mm f4?
This review might change my life. Thank you for this.
Wow, this sounds like making sense to me, thank you!
Does this have an image istabalization? Or Auto Focus?
It has both!!!
Nice info about how it actually looks on FF camera! I was in the similar position when I was trying to find an ultra-wide lens for a7r2. Unfortunately just like you said, most of the options are for APS-C, and FF options are just insanely expensive. The manual primes sounds good but just unusable for a daily driver. Finally I jumped the wagon on Tamron 17-28, which is very great. F2.8 and comparable optics performance with GM (at least from some of the review) didn't make it cheap, but at least makes it justifiable. IF I were to know that this one works kind of OK on Full Frame, I'd probably just go with it. It's cheap like a toy, with the new 10-20 it could only become cheaper and cheaper in the used market.
An interesting thing is a7r2 is 42MP, the 4k actually works best when in the Crop/Super35/APS-C mode, the image quality is just insane. Clean like being washed by water (in a good way). BUT you lose the wide end, 17 on tamron becomes 24 again, which is "normal" but not "wide", 24 on things like 24-70 becomes 35, which is NARROW in most of the circumstance. For me the ultra-wide perspective definitely worth more than the marginal IQ improvement, so I ended up with 4k full-frame mode almost all time.
I'm for most of the time a still shooter, so the tamron 17-28 makes sense to me. But later I think you probably should upgrade to something like an 61MP a7r4, r5, or the now cheaper 42MP r3, if the video specs meets the minimum of your demand. I can probably guess why you got the a7s at first place, because it's at all a full frame, and you did a lot of video. People said this is to be for the video and performs best in low light. All the checkboxes are ticked. And most importantly, the price for all these seems acceptable. Probably you may also thought it's "easier" to get "wider" at Full Frame, because 24 is finally a 24 not a 35, so theoretically it's easier to get a wide angle on a FF. There's just only one problem: you haven't checked the FF wide lens price yet.
However just like you said yourself, you do a lot of real estate videos professionally, which doesn't involve a lot of critical lighting conditions -- nothing a tad increase of ISO could not fix, and no one's pixel peaking for that. After all most real estate does not involve a dungen. It has lights all over the place and when you want to showcase for it, you want to turn all those lights on. So in my view you just threw the biggest advantage of the a7s, in exchange for an unusable 1080P crop mode, which you might actually need. Full frame is not for you, at least professionally. So if I were you I'd either up my game to A7R to take full advantage of the FULL FRAME sensor size by having the ridiculously HIGH RESOLUTIONS -- which opens a whole new world for landscape and everything. Especially if you have a nice screen like the 5k iMac, you just can't go back. The is the correct way to take full advantage of your other expensive GM lens. The optics resolution can only go as sharp as the sensor resolution goes. Plus now you have a very usable 4k crop/super35 mode. The image is down sampled from 8k or 6k, it can just be as good as the a7s. Or I'll just back my game to something like a ZV-E10, which I'd bet it ticks every box you need when you do your profesional real estate shooting. Just don't forget to put it on a huge gimbal to look "pro" to your clients!
I wish canon had one of these guys
Try viltrox 16 1.8
A good option is the laowa 9mm lens with the Sony A74.
Interesting, thank you for the recommendation!
Omeizin' video! Thank You Bro 👍
Subscribed. Great channel.
Great video man, subscribed, am thinking about this lens for underwater photos and video and might be the best based on ya info.
Really??? Id love it if you’d send me some stuff you get!!!
Just saw your ig! Love your content!
Another option is getting a Sony E to Canon EF adapter and then buying a used 11-24mm F4 lens. Since it's designed for Full Frame completely you can go to 11mm wide without vignetting. There's also now a 10mm F2.8 lens if you need even wider than that.
for sure! is this what you do? the one thing i'd be concerned about is sharpness levels adapting from EF.
@@MicahPowell it depends on the adapter you use, and unfortunately, since Sony would prefer for you to use E Mount lenses, your gonna want to update the firmware on your adapter regularly. The two ones I can confidently recommend are the EF to E Mount adapter that Sigma makes, or the ND Throttle Fusion Canon EF to Sony E Mount adapter. The first one is just known for being fairly reliable since it's from a high profile Sony partner, and a latter option is also pretty reliable, but comes with a built-in variable ND filter.
@@BurneraccountXD69 daaaang built in vnd would be so so nice! I’ll look into this :)
@@MicahPowell well I'm glad to have helped.
I bet this would be a dope lens on the a7siii plus RS3 Mini
For sure!
Just use 11mm 1.8.