One of the fundamental principles that Mother Nature teaches us is, if you try to block a river flow, it would eventually either gets burst, in which case would cause damage to everything, or the flow would find an alternative channel to move on. Presumably the same principle applies to the world development.
the restrictions actually helped accelerate their growths. If the usa had left things as they were, intel, micron, amd, etc... wouldn't be in trouble now.
No, it didn't. China's Tsinghuaw Unigroup lost billions and went kapoom as sanction was imposed. There is really no other chip manufacturing that blossomed as a result of sanction. There is still no chip-making supply-chain in China and their most cutting edge litho by SMEE is 28nm, legacy nodes.
Unigroup not producing their targets has nothing to do with the sanctions. They are just one of many Chinese researchers and contribute partly to China chips self reliant. China already making 5nm chips, you should know that those figures are not really the real width of the nodes, even for those from Samsung or TSMC.
"Tech Dominance"? Why always so negative about China, or even badmouthing. China just wants to develop and be self-reliant, and not be contained and suppressed. Why described it as quest for tech dominance?
There is nothing wrong in tech dominance as a goal. Every company in the world is trying to have tech or market dominance, it is part of a free market system. Some succeed, others fail. These people are just anti free market. It was good when they dominated.
No new insights have been added to the topic. Perhaps it would be useful to discuss how US companies such as Intel, Micron, and AMD have been adversely affected by the trade wars. The slow pace of the Chips Act in helping US companies. Money is said to be allocated but never received. Where is the market for the proposed chips slated to be produced in the US? What is the cost of goods produced due to the stick and carrot policies?
Having cheap stuff takes second place to keeping the US secure. Either by strengthening the nation by being a producer or limiting the other by all means deemed necessary. Not the best idea for some companies and pricer items at home but it is what it is.
How has China threatened US security? Seems imaginary. So for an imaginary threat, you are advocating a lose-lose proposition instead of a win-win coexistence. Is that the best path for the average American? Or is your hate so strong you just want China to suffer no matter what?
One of the fundamental principles that Mother Nature teaches us is, if you try to block a river flow, it would eventually either gets burst, in which case would cause damage to everything, or the flow would find an alternative channel to move on. Presumably the same principle applies to the world development.
the restrictions actually helped accelerate their growths. If the usa had left things as they were, intel, micron, amd, etc... wouldn't be in trouble now.
No, it didn't. China's Tsinghuaw Unigroup lost billions and went kapoom as sanction was imposed. There is really no other chip manufacturing that blossomed as a result of sanction. There is still no chip-making supply-chain in China and their most cutting edge litho by SMEE is 28nm, legacy nodes.
With multiple exposure it can make a 7nm chips@@tooltalk
@@avil8686 no u can't make a 7nm with 28nm litho
Unigroup not producing their targets has nothing to do with the sanctions. They are just one of many Chinese researchers and contribute partly to China chips self reliant. China already making 5nm chips, you should know that those figures are not really the real width of the nodes, even for those from Samsung or TSMC.
Self-determination to excel is "dominance"? Only hegemons talk about dominance.
"Tech Dominance"? Why always so negative about China, or even badmouthing. China just wants to develop and be self-reliant, and not be contained and suppressed. Why described it as quest for tech dominance?
There is nothing wrong in tech dominance as a goal. Every company in the world is trying to have tech or market dominance, it is part of a free market system. Some succeed, others fail.
These people are just anti free market. It was good when they dominated.
they are just media
No new insights have been added to the topic. Perhaps it would be useful to discuss how US companies such as Intel, Micron, and AMD have been adversely affected by the trade wars. The slow pace of the Chips Act in helping US companies. Money is said to be allocated but never received. Where is the market for the proposed chips slated to be produced in the US? What is the cost of goods produced due to the stick and carrot policies?
through wars the us can give a market to all those chips...
name one american product that dominates, even boeing is a joke, tesla depends on china.
Expectant
Having cheap stuff takes second place to keeping the US secure.
Either by strengthening the nation by being a producer or limiting the other by all means deemed necessary.
Not the best idea for some companies and pricer items at home but it is what it is.
How has China threatened US security? Seems imaginary.
So for an imaginary threat, you are advocating a lose-lose proposition instead of a win-win coexistence. Is that the best path for the average American? Or is your hate so strong you just want China to suffer no matter what?
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AI Generated?
You’re AI generated
@@AaronGrady-e1o doesn't this podcast sounds like AI generated to you?
@@ij4674nope, there are human like pauses in the speech. I don’t think it’s AI generated.
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