FMF2014: Hans Zimmer - Inception Suite
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Hans Zimmer - Inception Suite
Hans Zimmer - piano
Czarina Russel - voice
Aleksander Milwiw-Baron - electric guitar
Tristan Schulze - electric cello
Beethoven Academy Orchestra
Diego Navarro - conductor
![5 Pieces by Hans Zimmer \\ Iconic Soundtracks \\ Relaxing Piano [20min]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Os47nMrjw_Y/mqdefault.jpg)
As a trombonist, if I were in this show, my will to live would be collapsing.
Why?
Because its hardwork I imagine @@robertomarin
Concert is Collapsing
Ahahah, absolutely! Especially that guitarist gave me cancer
AMAZING!!! Świat nie istnieje, kiedy to się ogląda, wsłuchuje i czuje... to jest jedna z najpiękniejszych definicji muzyki jaką widziałam!
pięknie napisane!
Truly Hans Zimmer is the greatest Music Director in the industry. All his scores send shivers down my spine. The music is so connectable.
HAha Hanz standing up after the performance, his face is like "Well shit, glad this is over"
He says in his documentary that he gets terrible stage fright.
Got the same impression.
Muzycy spisali się na medal. Byli rewelacyjni. Należy dodać, iż orkiestra miała potężny podkład muzyki elektronicznej , nadającej całości niesamowitej mocy. Nagranie bardziej uwypukliło samą scenę, więc wydaje się ,iż momentami brakuje synchronizacji. To jednak złudzenie. Film nie oddaje zupełnie tego, jak to wszystko razem niesamowicie brzmiało. Ocynkownia dosłownie drżała w posadach. Aż żal ,że zrezygnowano z koncertów w tym wspaniałym akustycznie miejscu.
To było fantastyczne, epickie doświadczenie.
Organizatorom FMF oddaję swe ukłony.
"Where does this conductor strike the first beat?" His tempo indication is all over the place. Can't blame the musicians.
You obviously haven't watched a classical conductor before have you.
16:34 Zimmer: Mmm Where am I?!! Ok I'm gonna play these notes....
16:36 ZImmer: Ok no.. ok
jajajajaja for sure
Let me help clarify some things I see a lot of you guys are confused. As many of you have pointed out this is a far from perfect performance (there is no such thing as a perfect live performance) with many complications on the side of the production which I will describe below.
That being said there are things that are being classified as a "mistake" when they are not (what is a mistake anyways? remember this is art)
1. Production: First of all a "Suite" is sort of a Collage of themes played concert style of music initially intented to be heard to support some other performance art such as a ballet or opera. (think of the nutcracker suite) so this is an ORIGINAL arrangement that Hans wrote for this performance. It is complicated because there is MANY people involved AND computer sounds, this creates a little bit of a nightmare for it to be recorded (it usually turns out like a recording of a recording) this accounts for the difficulty in getting levels right and for some of the synchronization problems.
2. Although the singer is minutely under pitch sometimes (I really dont think most people would be able to tell) it is her LEVELS that are perhaps too hot and so she sounds louder than she should be. I imagine Hans either could not get the rights for the original recording (of the song originally song by French Singer Edid Piaf) OR he decided to just do it live.
So when the first iteration of the "Time" theme happens and the singer sings her part people think this is "terrible" but besides her level and that is not a minutiously audio engineered and tuned the singer is right on, what you are hearing that is so "wrong" is that the singer is in a different key than the rest of the piece (because she is supposed to lol ) Just for fun, put this into UA-cam and listen to it and let me know what you all think "Pierre Lunaire" by Arnold Shoenberg (free atonality I believe that is form the year 1919 or 1921)
Most people have not heard of bitonal or polytonal structures (which is what Hans uses here) much less Atonal ones.
IN CONCLUSION. The reason why someone of you might be "dissapointed" (pun intended with the movie! LOL) It is because you guys have probably listened to the SUPER produced, highly polished, recorded piece by piece, engineered in even smaller chunks, edited and re edited, mixed and mastered etc MANY times so you have this version of what it is "Supposed" to listen to (there are actually many other inconsistencies that were not picked up by anybody here in the comment section, let me know if you all find them) but that is not the PURPOSE of art. You can like something more or less (the guitarist was understandably inconsistent because guitarists never play with conductors, his time is not bad it is just that the conductors time fluctuates because thats what he wanted) All in all is a live performance like many, writing this was fun now back to work for me haha.
Dude, since I was 13, I have learnt to play Trombone, Bass, Guitar, Piano, Drums and multiple production programs, recording suites and synthesis. I have played in big bands, punk/metal bands and produced electronic music. This performance was so bad, 99% of people who are not musically trained could pick the tempo and syncopation shifts because they know the content that they are listening to. This is a professional orchestra with a conductor that cannot lead, there should be no excuses for the multiple mistakes that were made.
@@jamesrudland9734 you discredit yourself with your own words ;) you say this performance is so bad. you have no idea bringing so many things together :) you say it with your own words punk metal bands ... electronic... not a single experience with big orchestral work .. ;) dont be so bad if you have no idea about it :) but okay :) it could be done better
Josef Wilfinger I played Trombone in the Kalamunda Youth Swing Orchestra in high school under the tutelage of David Whay so despite your spurious rebuttal, I do have an intimate understanding of live orchestra. I'm sure Hans Zimmer himself was loathing the performance. Quite frankly your synopsis of the performance and the explanation given is best suited to so called artists like Brittany Spears, Bieber and an entire plethora of commercial auto tuned tripe.
This performance was bad with many mistakes. They were out of sync and Hans reacted to it multiple times and so did some of the musicians
At the precise moment of 0:59 zimmer look at the brass section, they were suposed to start, but they were a beat off from the sample.
Only one word... DECEPTION
The difference Johnny Marr and Satnam Ramgotra make in that liver performance says it all.
Hans Zimmer is the industry standard.
Perfection. Thank you , Hans
My ears are bleeding from the utter shipwreck of a performance of one of the best movie soundtracks ever written... Poor Zimmer having to experience all that in this performance... he was trying his best to salvage all the mis-synced parts with just a piano when even the conductor of the orchestra was incompetent in getting his orchestra sections to follow.
What a mess...
I just can’t disagree 🙈
Definitely one of my favourite film scores. Wish they could have recreated the guitar sound from the film a bit better, sounds less distorted in the film (not commenting on his performance, just the guitar tone), otherwise really nice!
Yes and without multiple mistakes!
ZIMMER IS IN ANOTHER LEVEL.BRUTAL
Maravilhosa composição!!!!!!
the guitarist and the singer......fucking christ you just killed the song....
agree, the damn female singer just killed the "Time".
Funnily enough, the singer is Zimmer's close co-worker (check her out on IMDB) and I believe she travels with him here & there also to do the vocal parts..
the dream is collapsing!
@guitarist: Not quite my tempo
Best comment ever!
Ya.. too slow.. that's why we ride without a seatbelts... never know how quick we have to move, life a motherfucker
Are you that bald guy from Whiplash?
At 3:24 hans Zimmer starts covering the collapsed concert with the piano... Just so they don't sound more bad 😂😂
Величайшее творение, просто дух захватывает!
23:10 the whole orchestra knows there fate, it's on there face
WOW! Awesome!!!
I swear at each transition it takes about 4 measures for the strings and winds to match up what they're playing.
Piękny utwór i piękne wykonanie. Mogłabym słuchać (i odlądać) bez przerwy.
Many have said it below, but DAMN that guitarist is OFF almost all of the time.
What really shocked me about this performance is why HZ agreed to release it knowing that he is a perfectionist. Maybe he saw or heard something that he really liked and we still haven't noticed (?). But the more I listened to it, the more depressed I get.
To me, all the musicians performed like if they have taken a bunch of Valium. They all sound like robots- no feeling at all. My two cents.
+Victor Medina Good chance that he doesn't have the rights to it and cannot decide whether or not it got released.
+BecomingMike I agree.
hes a dragger
As a fairly young musician can someone help point out some things
13:26 facial expression of blonde cellist is priceless
11:57 the conductor was one beat late off the track so the percussionist started one beat behind. Seems like most of the orchestra was following the conductor and the percussionist. Looked like Hans Zimmer and the guitarist had in-ear monitors and was following the track. The track had that heavy, reverb drum beat that came in at 11:57. The guitarist probably didn't know who the hell to follow and was like wtf lol. Who knows who's fault it was. The track could have started a beat early. I've played large production shows where the track had deviated off a beat. Its a nightmare. Usually the solution is to cut the track and let the musicians play the rest of section alone or to get back on the track... assuming everyone has in-ears and can even hear the track.
Sebastian Johnson thats 100% true what u say.
I totally agree! And also, at 3:14 half the orchestra came in first, with Hans Zimmer, and then the rest of the orchestra came in with the conductor after that... it is a pain to listen to, which is really disapointing as I love this music.
During concert the conductor gives the tempo. So I would say the track was one beat to early. The orchestra rightfully decided to follow the conductor. I wonder why it wasnt possible to just kill the underlying track. It seemed the orchestra covered almost all important instruments, so they wouldnt have lost much. And at this pointing by killing the track they probably would have gained much more than loose.
Absolutely agree, that is a common and simple problem that produces by loop and transport to human. And my vantage point is not only the guitarist who lost the tempo.
The hard part really comes from the arrangement and orchestration. I can't imagine trying to perform a concert that has the same four chords over and over and over. Makes it almost impossible to get back on beat if everything sounds the same.
imo, part of the reason Hanz Zimmer's music sounds nice when produced in a studio, but in a live performance where vst and sound id's where you can editing them are replaced with live musicians makes for a whole different issue.
Lol now it makes sense why Hans in his live shows doesn't have a conductor and his musicians say they feel better without
And this was Beethoven academy orchestra, not his musicians so they are messing up with an conducter, what would happen without a conductor XD
11:57 : The conductor gives the drummer 4 beats, and the drummer starts on the 1, but the percussion sample starts on 4. beat of the conductor so the rythm-sample is constantly 1 beat ahead the orchestra.
I guess the guitarist is a bit disoriented by two different rythms to deal whit. No excuse for the singer though.
It took a long time to scroll through all the comments blaming the drummer when he actually was solid as hell.... You heard/saw the same thing I did.
This "Time" 17:02 💛🙌
So beautiful!
Breathtaking
Paulina Wójtowicz
Lol one of the only nice comments.. do you know the original Version of this song?
Paulina Wójtowicz
Breathtaking mistakes
I am speechless!
3:12 i think even zimmer wasn't quite confident about this tempo changing part, so he skipped it
At 22:10 Han knows they were terrible and hates the guy so he pushes him away and doesn't even touch him. This is just sad for the masterpiece.
I disagree. Though he certainly was glad it was over, he had a terrible stage fright - he said in an interview. Also, look up the conductor a year later in Dexter suite or in Game of Thrones suite - he's brilliant.
if you came here just for Hans Zimmer then skip to 16:50
thank you for help
Thanks Man 🤩
12:46 the guys face
SUPER !!
Violins are so low, they´re the soul in this piece.
*DIVINE!*
Magnificiant
I love it!
Best ever
Sin palabras.
3:14... anyone think that is a mistake?
yes
Really?... Does it matter?
Yes, it does.
Pretty sure this is just the break in the music...not a mistake. Maybe could have been a bit smoother and that's why it sounds like that.
I think that they just didn't play this bar together and the music collapsed.
amazing
THE LOW BRASS GETTIN DOWN LOWWWWWWW
Amassing performance
nice I love
This is Prophetic this is chords broken as the birth through anarchy this is prophecy, fear this, this is the PHOENIX.
Since i came to know about Hanz Zimmer and Inception , I learnt that composing music is a very critical and complex work. I can assume/compare music composers with highly creative computer programmers. But i am astonished by composers because they usually dont work in team as of programmers. Cheers to All Similar music Composers out there!
15:16 and the best guitar move incoming
mesmerizing
15:16 wahh
"Mombasa" Was the most dificult! woww!
Is it only me that thinks there is something wrong especially in the theme 'Mombasa ' ?. The drummer and the guitarist are totally out of synch ! My brain had real hard time trying to put all them in one piece of art.. So sad
Yeah everybody was landing in different places, ahead and behind em on the beat. Makes it sound wonky. Shame as that's my top HZ tune.
WERE YOU RUSHING OR WERE YOU DRAGGING?!
17:10 time
Thanks😀😁
catch the strings absolutely SHREDDING it during mombasa
Wow!!!
This is soooooooooo gooooooooooooood to my soul!!!!! my dreams!!! thank you, Zimmer. I'll see you a day, professor! I am sure! thank you biurofestiwalowe channel.
I just finished Inception and listened to the orchestra version of the score, to find this performance in dismay. Conductor is all over the place, and so brass started late, then percussion went off beat, which in effect confused the guitar whether to follow that beat or listen to the piano, and the vocal went shaky, sharp, and lose dynamics. Zimmer struggled to salvage it but at least it ended smoothly.
Ok some bits are difficult but I enjoyed the different version of time inc the vocals , I've heard so many times over 9000 😉
Nowhere better than in Prague.
Absolut genius
i don't know why they insist on having vocalists in time. it just doesn't sound great
chaotic playing
Such a fantastic score! Totally ruined by poor musicians and way too little rehearsal and lack of good monitoring. Hans Zimmer is one godlike incredible composer, but this is just hideous! What a shame!
1:30 ? faces of people in the string
0:56 lmao he could feel the disturbance in the force.
11:57 it sucks that the drummer is off
1:56 : He does not even know the music...
3:13 : WTF happened ? They are out of sync..
10:15 : Same here. Take a look at some musicians... you can see in their eyes that they are lost
12:40 : Not so bad, but you can feel the dream collapsing aha
+paulokoko Absolutely true. I wrote almost the same in my comment, take a look! What a shit.
paulokoko
Its so sad...
Ojej ile nas tam było! :) A te puste miejsca to po tych, co gnali na autobusy chyba :D Bo wydostanie się z huty było nieco skomplikowane :D
i think they failed it at 03:15
+Doeniel02 yes gitarist failed
Doeniel02 Not just then
To all the people hating on the guitarist and the drummer. Here’s a video to explain why it almost always is hard for a percussive drummer and other very rhythmic instruments to keep in time with an orchestra. It’s possible as is heard in the track in the film, but very difficult to achieve. The link is here ua-cam.com/video/rEbUNDW9bDA/v-deo.html
hans zimmer faz compõe melodias incriveis, mas na hora de ver quem e o melhor ao vivo fico com ennio morricone.
I wanted to collapse myself after watching the performance of Mombasa.... wtf was that. the drummer was so out of sync, so it effected the whole brass team and then the guitarist which killed it completely
what do you expect , this a live performance , I think it's pretty darn good , excuse my french
The conductor was one beat late and the percussionist was following the conductor as I doubt they had an in ear like Hans and the guitarist.
Zimmer na żywo - zazdro.
In every live performance on Inception songs available on UA-cam the guitarist seems to be off..
yeeees,why???
Not in the one in Prague
...also off. Probably Bruce saw that one too. The guy in Prague seems to be following more his own head banging than anything else.
@ 19:26 guitarist messes up. :(
Wokaliza w "Time" jednak trochę mi psuje odbiór utworu, który sam się broni i nie potrzebuje takich ozdobników. Ale i tak brzmi super, podejrzewam, że na żywo efekt był jeszcze lepszy. To jeden z moich ulubionych soundtracków i chyba ulubiony jeśli chodzi o Zimmera.
+Ania Moim faworytem jest Tick-Tock z dodatków do Interstellar
4:05 entering the heaven
Any news of Guitarist went missing after the concert ? Because I saw sir Anthony Hopkins aka “Hannibal lecter” in the third row ! 😬
Thats....sad... I mean holy sh.. that realy hurts. Poor Hans Zimmer
Where's Johnny Mar when you need him!
This video should be renamed to "Inception Suite SHRED".
to all those thinking there are mistakes... sure there maybe one or two little notes out, but please don't criticize it with bad foul language comments or any other comment in a negative way, especially when it is a live performance, so unless you can do better and show us your evidence in a video, feel free to add a link in the reply's to this comment of mine, please keep your trap shut and find something that you have right to criticize and comment on in this manner. cheers people...
I hope this didn't damage zimmer reputation
20.12 something goes wrong for brass
This had a chance to be such a great concert, it such a shame because this is one of my favorite film scores, the concert is still good but it just does not really live up to the hype, especially because some of the people are off. However I cant imagine the preasure the performers had so I shouldnt blame them.
Imperfect, but still powerful stuff.
Yeah.. It wasn't a good night for Hans... But it is still a brilliant composition that he did for this movie
V v v good
damn, what happened at 3:14?!
Is there also Interstellar sound I can hear?
+Sanek94cool the same composer, maybe he used similar chords in some parts
+Gonzalo Tórtola defintly)
+Sanek94cool people make mistakes, you know ?
Dmitry Ivanov
don't think that maistake
Sanek94cool miss click)
URGHH NOOO! What the hell happened here!? Been to see Zimmer live and it was incredible, this is just a disaster!
it would have been better if the woman was who was doing vocals was not there