I'm actually glad for some of the negativity...it did reassure me that I am not losing my mind. This doll is truly unpleasant to look at. I don't understand. I'm sure I read one time that Mattel is (one?) of the largest textile manufacturers in the world. Can't they manufacture something that is aqua and pale pink, instead of shiny fuchsia and practically turquoise? And the plastic "wrought iron" filigree is sooooo cheap-looking. It looks like something that would come in a Happy Meal. Have they never heard of dry-brushing?
Mattel understood that nostalgia sells much more than actual quality, the doll just has to be G1 inspired and everyone is going to get it regardless of how bad it may look :( I lost all of my interest in the collector line, it's a mess
For me, it’s not even that they didn’t let us vote on the dress, but they didn’t even show us the dress before voting on the other aspects. So we had zero idea what outfit we were even accessorizing. Even still, I really loved the concept art and was so excited for this doll. Rochelle is my all time favorite MH character. And when I saw the doll images, I was very mixed like you. And when I saw the price point I genuinely cried. I was just so upset. I could have probably justified buying her at 75, but 90 for a doll I wasn’t completely in love with just wasn’t happening
I probably won't get her... what really dissapointed me was the baby pink in the design going to metallic hot pink on the doll. Baby pink was like rochelles's thing you know? and not being able to see her boots because the dress is so long 💀💀. What really gets me going is when people don't like a doll but buy it anyway... Like I can't imagine wasting money on something that you don't even like 💀.
The alumni dolls are so expensive bc they know people will pay for them 🤷♀️ I've seen so many people upset about Rochelle's price but buying her anyway because of fomo, and that makes me so sad. As long as people keep buying the crappy alumni dolls, Mattel will keep making the crappy alumni dolls regardless of how loudly people complain. Money is the only language companies understand, so if we want something to change, we need to commit as a group to voting with our money. I'm not blaming anyone for giving in to fomo, I want to make that so clear. It's going to be hard for me to resist the Tiffany Valentine doll, whenever she comes out, but I'll manage.
I’m happy to hear some negativity to be honest! FOMO is trying to convince me to buy her, but she’s probably going to be over $160 CAD after shipping and taxes, and I don’t even like her all that much lol. I also don’t like the idea that this is a prototype without a box design, so we don’t actually know what would show up at our door next year. For that price point, I want to know EXACTLY what I’m getting.
I'm glad the negativity could help lol 😂 I know what you mean, it's hard to not think "I should buy her just in case" but for me, I would rather spend $90+ on dolls I know I LOVE that I can get within a week
Your review was cathartic. You brought up a surprising number of points that I thought of at the time and then forgot about because at the end of the fang vote I knew I wouldn't be ordering her anyway. The dress - yes! I was shocked that I wasn't asked about what kind of dress I'd prefer, and it was at that point that I totally lost interest in purchasing this doll. And then Mattel chose one ('sigh - not another mermaid dress!') that hid the gorgeous stained glass shoes, which frankly boggled the mind. I did notice the lack of fingerless gloves as well, and that was sad. I didn't notice the color change until you mentioned it, but you are so right that the bright colors are jarring. The pastel pinks and blues of the concept art evoked images of a gargoyle high up on a church wall in the moonlight. That was such a lovely image. I think I'll just hold that image and hope for better days for Mattel's adult collector department. Although I struggle with negative reviews, I thank you anyway for bringing up stuff that needed to be said.
My sister and I were on the same page about how shitty this dolls price is and how Mattel are clowns. But then she texts me today saying “I think I’m going to buy Rochelle” and I’m like: I’m going to disown you… 😒
i lowkey feel like they are doing these things on purpose. to this day, it still boggles my mind just how absolutely abysmal the release of the creeproductions were and those are arguably what has been sought after by the fans and have been requested to be restocked and mattel has just ignored that just to release very subpar/questionable "collector" dolls lol. even in the livestream for the new ghoulia doll they got asked about more creeproductions and they were like "you guys are gonna be happy" which makes me think they are gonna reproduce some other line of mh dolls before the signature core dolls that people have been asking for. theres just no way that mattel is this unable to deliver after so many poor attempts, they seem to not care.
I won’t miss her from my collection. And I’ve kinda plan on not buy many collectors this year. They REALLY gotta be A) my top favorite characters B) I gotta really love the doll C) I’m no longer gonna support Mattel if they continue with less for more period. D) I just don’t need every doll I’m running out of room, & I have both G1 and upcoming G3 I’d rather save my money for. E) they still owe me 2 dolls and this one ships so far in the future that I’m like idk where I’ll be then in my life. Just all round I’m happy I’m not a Rochelle fan I already knew I wasn’t gonna go after her now I’m just yes MH keep doing characters I do not care bout so I can save money! ESPECIALLY if they are gonna keep pulling BS. Least Ghoulia is my third favorite character and she was pretty great & not THAT insanely priced.
This doll is everything that enrages me about decisions made for Monster High dolls (at least for G1), beautiful face and hair, *but* way, and I mean *WAY* too much going on with the outfit design. I understand that Monster High has ways been huge on clashing patterns and printed fabric but I have always found myself leaning towards more complex designs with less pattern/printed-fabric but amazing color palette match. Idk why Mattel thinks that putting a doll in neon or metallic green and purple patterned clothing is a good idea. The *ONLY* characters that work well with this are: 1. Frankie: because she is literally stitched together so it makes sense for her clothing to have mismatched patterns to emulate her different stitched body parts. 2. Clawdeen: whose aesthetic in G1 is very edgy/neon so funky color pairings like green and purple just works well with her vibe. 3. Cleo: because she is an Egyptian mummy so therefore printed hieroglyphics work well on her clothing.
@@FaeryTaleDolls absolutely, someone like Frankie or Cleo look great with busy fabric because of their vibe but Rochelle is a pastel, dainty queen that needs a more simplistic soft vibe.
I love her and I’m happy I managed to order one. Plus these are stock photos and they may change some of the colours or design. Which I’m happy with either way. I’m also looking forward to seeing the box, I like that they’ve left that as a surprise. Overall I’m happy with it.
I ordered her not happy that with shipping & tax it was over $100. But I didn’t want to regret skipping since she’s only available until 4/16 11:59p PT to order. Sucks to wait until February next year but honestly I kind of wish made to order had been available for skullector dolls like Pennywise, Beetlejuice & Greta. I did notice there was an option to pay 4 payments with no interest or fees I was glad to see that option since they definitely just sprung this on us. ❤️🤗 def MH/mattel needs to work on creeproductions, reel drama, HC etc being not a heart break experience 🤞🤦🏻♀️.
@@FaeryTaleDolls yes the price really makes me sad like $60-$75 I wouldn’t be surprised but $90 is insane when previous times those were 2 packs 🤦🏻♀️🤗
Oh yeah that option existed, but didn't work. I don't know what was happening but I tried every which way I could shop pay WOULD NOT take my info. Said it couldn't authenticate my identity. But then when I went to pay outright with card with all info correct mattel creations said no your billing address has to be the same zip code as your state (even when the card I was using did not). SO I tried using my shipping address, the card whose info is actually from another state, and my shipping address as billing. Suddenly it took it. So the site was straight up jank
I went over yesterday to see if they maybe changed the price, and were going to make appropriate changes so she would look like the concept art, but she wasn't even up for me to order if I wanted to; even though I have membership? And of course, no changes in design or price. I seriously thought about getting her because her face is pretty; but why buy her if she doesn't match what I want, and why pay such a huge price? I decided to pass and just save my money for a doll I want more whether that be MH or some other doll brand.
That's weird that the membership didn't show her as available for you! I didn't even look so I can't say whether I would have had the same problem. Definitely between the price, wait time, and weird changes I would rather buy another doll instead
I checked also that Thursday and I’m a member too and no it wasn’t available. I’m also passing up on this doll. I love her black lipstick and little face but we have to show them that it’s not right $90 is way too much.
I agree with your points. I thought the first Haunt Couture dolls were decent for $75 collector dolls (knowing collector dolls are higher-priced), but what they did with this doll goes too far in several regards. Also, I got the G3 Skulltimate Secrets Dracualura on sale for $40, including taxes and free shipping in Canada. In contrast, Rochelle would cost me $165, including taxes and shipping from the US. No thanks. I'll wait for the upcoming G3 dolls, even though I do love this Rochelle's face.
I’m not a Monster High collector and I really liked the stock photos, but I did not know what she looked like in the concept art. There are definitely factors that I like, the aesthetic of the doll overall i really love even if i don’t love the colors. They should have put lace socks on her to get the effect of the concept art. With all that said, i kind of want her, but the fact that she’s $90 and wouldn’t ship until 2024??? That’s insane to me
i just watched your bjd recast video, then came to your channel page because i loved your way of speaking and personality! not sure how long ago it was. as a she/they i was so surprised and happy to see the differences in this video versus the last one i watched. i am so so happy for you and OBSESSED with your style 😭💕 your collection is such goals and i hope you are so fulfilled and happy and feel more yourself!! so much love, and also, nothing but facts in this video 🤧
One of my main gripes with the dress is easily seen in the photos, that people haven’t pointed out yet… THERE ARE LITERAL TEARS IN THE CHEAP PINK STRIPES!! Why would I pay $100+ for something that comes in looking like it’s been through a paper shredder?? You don’t even have to zoom in to see it. It’s right there.
I think that's actually on purpose/part of the design...I do think it doesn't look the best for Rochelle in this dress, but that's why I didn't mention it 🤷🏻♂
it feels,, rude for mattel to keep switching up on fans with prices. I wanted rochelle because i can’t afford her signature doll and i was thinking if i could get 75 dollars i could get her- but the price went up. i loved ghoulia though, for the price and character she’s worth it for me
I do totally get what you're saying, for me personally, I'm upset the gloves are missing on principle. Like I think they're cute, but the biggest problem is just that they were presented as being part of the package and they aren't
I collect anime figures and MH and its sad that my $25-$50 anime figures have more attention to detail than the $90 Rochelle!? Rochelle is my FAVE MH and I could not justify $110 after tax/shipping AND the ship date of Feb 2024
Mattel has really been constantly fumbling the bag, their designs have been dated especially when it comes to Barbie. I hope they clean up their act because this isn’t it let’s hope the Barbie movie could help save them but even then my hopes aren’t high for the dolls tbh 😕
With a made to order doll like this I just don't get why: a) the window for purchase is SO tiny. Only 3 days??? b) why the late notice? Its not like there is a limited stock why are you waiting until the week of release to tell us, and a few days before to say "hey btw this is made to order so you won't see it until 2024! c) finally: if its made to order, why not follow IT and Mizi style of collector dolls where at purchase you just put down a payment and when the doll is ready to ship you pay the remaining amount? also its EMBARRASSING that the $50 Ghoulia looks better than the $100 doll... where did that double cost go??
Yeah the buying window is really short. I think it's honestly to pressure people who are on the fence about the doll into a quick and maybe rash decision so they don't have time to really consider.
I'm so upset Mattel is still announcing these things at the last minute. Give people some time to save up for it! I actually really like this Rochelle doll (I like both the concept art and the final product; although I lean towards the concept art a little more), and I can't buy her because she is way too expensive and I wasn't given any time to save up for her. The price alone was insulting enough
I actually really like this doll! Its definitely my favorite collector Monster High doll but the 90 dollars price tag is too much, they should've lowered it to like 60 or 70 at most, the community voted for this doll so I feel like it should be more accessible to the community.
Honestly I got the fang club membership, so that I can stop complaining about not getting the chance 😂 to get a doll. And then £89 + £4 postage just put me off as I could get 4/5 dolls for that. Otherwise I loved her I just wanted a posh doll
Mattel just doesn't give a crap about their fan base, every doll lately looks like old men sitting in a board room trying to design a hip doll but they are sooooo out of touch!
Why is anyone surprised that Mattel doesn't respect the fans and over charge for their poorer quality. They think they can charge Rainbow High prices for Steffie Love quality.
Is there any precedent in fashion history for a wrought-iron exo-cage for a floor-length dress? I can’t get past the impracticality of it. Even though it looks interesting, it doesn’t make sense to me. And putting it over the already super-busy dress design is visually discombobulating. I don’t think it’s that they didn’t try, but they tried too hard. Parisian chic should feel effortless. That said I can understand why many might like it because it is quite fun in a way. I wish they’d gone softer with the colours, shorter with the dress, subtler with the iron and much much lower with the price.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but apparently the images that have come out are a 3D render of the doll rather than actual photos? Maybe at least the sheer fabric at the bottom of the dress has a chance to be less transparent if that's true lol. I don't know if that could explain the lack of box photos. $90 is ridiculous though
See I've heard conflicting things! Some people are saying the photos are a prototype and some are saying that it is indeed a 3D render. Either way leaves room for improvement in the final doll, which is nice. But yeah the $90 price tag makes it rough...i wouldn't want to spend that in the hope that the product I get is better
@Faery Tale Dolls Right, soon after she was announced I saw a screenshot of the mattel creations listing for the doll on twitter that said the images were 3D renderings. I only went on the website to check now and all the wording is the same as in that screenshot except for the renderings phrase, which is now instead "prototypes". I guess they might have edited it? So it seems a bit unclear what the images are exactly, other than that they're not the final product, but in any case personally I wouldn't buy a doll anywhere near that price if it isn't close to perfect to me (though I feel like I generally am not willing to spend as much on a doll as many people are, so that doesn't say much). Mattel potentially not being able to put out images of a physical doll at this point (if it's a 3D rendering) also doesn't fill me with confidence tbh.
Maybe they justified $90 to themselves cus they saw it as like a “custom made” doll for fans, that’s the only way I can visualize why they thought it was worth that much. But not only did they not follow the 2D art (missing gloves, different colors), but it’s not like this is one person buying materials and fabric & making the doll by hand from clay, it’s a huge company with plenty of resources and money, so charging damn near a $100 is just ridiculous
You make some really good points. Also this doll won't be available til February of 2024!? Is that normal to have wait so long for the collector dolls to come out? I thought it was around 6 months, not almost a whole year. I don't have a lot of g1 dolls, but seeing this, I wouldn't guess that it was even a g1. Does that make sense? And I just can't see where the budget went. I feel bad for MH fans, especially the hardcore fans, who seem to keep getting duped by Mattel. It all seems so shady in something that is supposed to be fun.
Most others are shorter shipping times, but I think Rochelle is being made to order, hence the longer wait time. I'm not an expert in the industry but to be honest, I'm surprised the turnaround is that long for such a big company. Like I get that a small BJD business might have a lot wait time for casting, but I guess I just expected Mattel to have a slightly easier time of making made to order dolls? Like I said though, I'm no expert so maybe this is normal 🤷🏻♂ However her being made to order with a long shipping time does make me wonder what exactly makes the OTHER collector dolls take 6 months to ship?? If they're premade I wouldn't think it would take that long
Agree with everything you said, although when i first saw her my first thought was "hot mess" the dress would have looked so much better with a pastel non foil pink and if the entire flare out at the bottom were transparent. Her purse should be my favourite thing ever, but the hot pink totally kills it. The design is just too much, which is disappointing, because a few tweaks and it could have been amazing. The more I look the worse it gets... those earrings make her look like she has Minnie mouse ears....
Small tidbit but the ears being on the top of Rochelle’s head isn’t actually a “gargoyle thing” bc if you look at Garrett Du Roque, he actually had his ears on the side instead of on top like her.
Rochelle is my fav mh character but I can’t afford $90 end of story, I just really hope they give her a signature in g3 cuz every signature in g3 has been pretty much perfect in my eyes
HI. I ordered 2 of her because I'm in Love with her! I think she's so Pretty even if there are some problems for sure..!🤨 First disapointement is the price point. 90 Dollars / 102 Euros🤨😖 STOP That Please Mattel, it's way too much for a plastic doll. Second disapointement, where are the gloves and the earrings that we voted for her to have???😫 And third disapointement, the colour... 😨😱We were voted for pastel colours initialy and finally we have bright ones...??!!! This is a real disapointement!😞 Sorry Mattel I love her but this is not exactly what we voted for. And the last ridiculous thing is ... the shipping time.... What is this Mattel??? Are you serious? Ship on ... February 2024😱😨😱 It's SO LONG... So I think that with this exagerated shipping time you can improve her colours, add the gloves and earrings to the doll. Please Mattel if you read this message don't make fun of us and improve this doll before to ship... Thanks🙏🙏🙏
for $90 I wouldn't use those garish metallic stripes, it really doesn't look deluxe, especially since a few months later they came out with Vampire Heart Draculura which is one of the most deluxe looking dolls since the gen 1 Victorian looking Draculaura. I know that Vampire Heart Draculura was $100 but if $10 more makes it go from play-line to couture then maybe they should just sick to that. I'd rather pay $100 for a whole new doll experience rather than Mattel keep asking for $70 per doll (that would have costed half the price in G1) because they are using the G1 mold. It's greedy and disgusting. I can't see how this design justifies $90 when the IP dolls are $65-75 (since in theory those would cost more due to licensing). On top of all this they've since made these half-assed fan votings a perk of being a Fang Club member, which feels like them telling fans outright that they don't care about your opinions on products you want to buy unless you are paying to voice them...
I was going to get her because she wad Iconic, but that changed when I saw her price. $90!!!!! NO, absolutely not. The shoes look so different,like why!!! I do think the shoes are pretty, BUT we can barely see them because of the dress. I feel like had she had the dot dead or drop dead gorgeous ( whatever it's called), Opperetta dress, it would have been soooo pretty but no. And where are her gloves????? And premium packaging????? We don't even know what the packaging looks like!!! Anyways I hope we get a Rochelle g1 monster high doll here soon because the reason I wanted her is because I never had a Rochelle doll.
Rochelle is such a pretty character and I'm also really sad with how she came out. Even though I wasn't completely in love with the concept art I was still hoping she would turn out even better in doll form and...nope 🙃
@@FaeryTaleDolls Yeah, had we got to choose the dress it probably would have been better. I feel like the dress should be shorter, like the bottom part of her dress should be a skirt, so we could see the shoes.
I feel so bad for the creators bc they keep getting so much hate but like.. there are a lot of flaws. It seems like they're rushing and trying to add as much detail and pop as possible
I do feel like a lot of the issues probably come from areas outside of the designers. I don't know exactly who is in charge of what, but the designers might not be allowed to pick the perfect fabrics and such (like they might have to choose from what Mattel will allow and this could have been the best of those options), and as you said they might be under a lot of time pressure. Plus the price is definitely not their fault. I guess my thought is the concept might not be my taste but that doesn't mean it's bad. The execution is what I have a problem with and I think designers come under fire because they are accessible on social media, when really it might corporate constraints that lead to the less than stellar release
To be honest she looks cheap for a doll that its price is over 100 is not worth it. In my case it would be $116 and I don't feel like she looks like a $116 doll. looks like a cheap cake topper🤷🏻♀️
Im not into MH but this doll has a really cute face. It sucks shes so overpriced! Her dress looks so cheap. Mattel has made beautiful gowns for collector Barbies so they are capable of making nicer clothes.
I just saw an ig post where allegedly Rebecca (the designer for Rochelle) said that the doll shown is a prototype and I’m like ????? Why would they release her now 😭😭😭
Designers have to make what is called a design model in order to photograph it (to promote the doll) and have a prototype for the manufacturer (in China or Indonesia) to follow. IMO, the dress silhouette is so awkward, I'm not sure what they were thinking. You are correct about the earrings, the doll would have been fine with only the earrings (lose the tiara). One thing that bugs me personally is using plastic where soft goods should be. That bizarre plastic net overvest doesn't work on this dress at all. Rochelle's dress would have been really cute as a mini, bubble skirt dress with the leg o'mutton sleeves and a plastic corset. The shoe design is spook-tacular and would have been gore-geously showcased by a short skirt (and blacked painted straps with the blue bows). Then, the doll with floor length hair would have been a nice contrast to the skirt length. It's a case of 10 pounds of merde in a five pound bag....
While your points aren't wrong, there are some pieces of information that make some of these points less of the current main sticking point. Rochelle is the first ever made to order doll, therefore what images they showed us of the doll aren't actually a full prototype (someone said its 3d rendered but I don't know it looks like a prototype) so parts of what we're seeing can easily be tweaked before the final doll. Meaning it technically possible that colors and gloves could all be fixed (and if there was ever a time for mattel to listen likely could be fixed after all the uproar about the proto theyve shown us)That's also the same reason they didn't show us her box: it doesn't exist yet. Why couldn't they just draw us a concept so we at least know what the hell we're in for: good question I think the designers likely want to but corporate still hasn't committed on a design yet. She's projected to not be ready to ship until February of next year, so its clear theres time to finalize things or tweak them. The single biggest sticking point is the cost. Like or dislike the design there is alot going on here, there are even a decent amount of pieces to me this is definitely at least a haunt couture level price of a doll they didn't give us a fabric purse but they gave us a real chain and giant cage dress piece. But that isn't what happened. And since whoever dumbass is on top decided to push the doll preorder thru without showing us the "premium packaging" we have no way of justifying how much or little the box does to contribute to that cost. Even if they give us gloves and change the shade of pink the cost problem is still there and by the time anyone finds out everyone will have already paid anyways or missed out. The other ENORMOUS problem they did for this release specifically that nerfed so many was they cut down payment methods, including paypal being gone. If it wasn't visa, mastercard, or shoppay charging your visa or mastercard it would not accept it. (honestly shoppay wouldn't accept my shit even when I was trying to use it so all around shop pay is a piece of shit why remove paypal but keep shop pay). So even people who LIKE the design and decided to commit despite the cost STILL couldn't. Mattel's excuse? Some stupid wrestlemania crowdfunding event. They turned it off for that event but apparently are idiots that don't know how to limit payment methods on a SINGLE thing instead of the whole site, idiots that dont know not to schedule a crowdfunding event and doll preorder at the same time, or both. I vote both. Its bad when people don't want a product, even worse when people DO but still can't for the dumbest reason imaginable. Like we finally get a release where scalpers aren't a problem (there are no ordering limits and all are made to order) the ONE time where everyone who wants her should be able to get her and they STILL fuck it up. Onto the doll herself: I still like her and think she'll turn out fine in person. I personally didn't assume the concept to be exact one to one so the colors being slightly different or any of that I expected and was fine with. Her gloves being absent is an issue as its a direct omission but as a doll and based on the look they gave us her without gloves looks fine the gloves might have made it too busy. I like the makeup look she has but might consider trying to add more blush on my own, I don't hate it it isn't a deal breaker so I might leave her alone. The biggest issue wasn't that she didn't look exactly like her concept, its that the concept didn't look like 90, the image of the proto doll doesn't look like 90, and unless that box has a light up stained glass window the box probably still wont look like 90. I actually don't even mind the wait it will make resellers want to piss off even more (and gives them time to tweak based on comments). I also wouldn't have minded the cost so much if I had been able to use paypal as planned. See 100 is way less divided into payments thru paypal credit financing. But they botched the one potentially good part of her cost. After learning all of this last 48 hours I had to really think about whether to buy her and how. Eventually after looking at ebay this release started looking better. SO many listings had body parts (hands/wings) missing and if you're not wanting scaris or ghouls night out all of your options for good quality all pieces included start getting so absurd that buying the brand new collector doll with rooted lashes suddenly looked reasonable. Rochelle's pricing gets crazy. This helped influence my decision since I couldn't get a different Rochelle doll as a consolation prize without hitting haunt couture prices. At least she's brand new, in box, and super fancy. Colors be damned I LOVE that giant cage dress. Even the best g1 rochelle's didn't ever quite do this and her core doll was 120 on ebay. So after asking to borrow money from family (yes I will pay back I'm damn good about doing that) I got this doll. Our only other options to get rochelle without getting REALLY stupid with money will be creeproductions (which we only pray will exist) and g3 (which we also currently only pray will exist but this one has a better chance). I also had alot of thoughts but after pouring through comments and being outraged by the fang club forum filled with assholes who were of no help whatsoever and just kept saying "why doesn't everyone have a regular credit card" completely ignoring international buyers and the fact that not all "regular" credit methods are visa and mastercard or shit like "if you can't buy it outright you shouldn't buy the doll anyways" like that one REALLY made me mad. Thank god someone called them out for being classist cause its not a manner of if I or anyone else can spend 100 on ONE doll specifically, its that we as doll collectors get no warnings or heads up and sometimes drops can happen after we already spent money on OTHER dolls. Cause you know those still exist, and skulltimate secrets JUST CAME OUT so even among monster high there were other things happening. Yes I still got to buy her but you can tell I'm still really mad about it I shouldn't have to ask family to be afterpay FOR me
I do agree the payments being restricted is a HUGE issue. I filmed this before I saw that statement so I wasn't able to talk about that as well, but yeah that's pretty messed up. Especially with a made to order doll, they could have lengthened her purchase window/rescheduled it to make sure all normal payment methods could be accepted. As far as the actual doll being better than the prototype, I do agree that's a potential outcome as well. I guess just because of Mattel's track record with MH collector dolls, I don't trust them to make those improvements 🙃
@@FaeryTaleDolls I'm at least of the opinion where I'll still like her if they don't so I have that to my benefit. Luckily I have a year to cool down from the payment mess and cost debacle but I swear if that box doesn't light up lol
I TOTALLYYY AGREE i was legit gonna buy her & then it kept getting worse for me too.. plus WONT SHIP TILL 2024 ?! absolutely absurd to tie $90 of my hard working money for a doll i won’t even get for a year so no i didn’t buy her 😂
Why is the metallic pink flaking off the dress? Why have long boots if they’re going to be covered? Why so much turquoise and pink? Silver, black, and white would’ve worked better with hints of pastels. For $90+ I expected a lot more The fang vote was obviously rigged from the start. They already had the sketch in the trailer….
For me this whole process has been a bit disrespectful to the MH community. The decision was made WAY before we even voted. They knew what they wanted and pretended that we chose any of this. They don’t have any product considering that they are showing a lot of renderings. The fact that they have to put a disclaimer on it because there are more changes probably coming. The fact that they made certain forms of payment not useable so people couldn’t ask for refunds is disrespectful. I would not be upset by the release date or price point IF i knew that i would be getting a quality doll. I am completely understanding of a made to order doll but considering the quality lately….plus they can’t even produce playline dolls in a timely matter.
I truly would have gotten her for 90 dollars because I love Rochelle... but Europe gets these from resellers only so she is 200 euros here! I truly hate Mattel now for doing this to loyal European customers 😢😢😢 I love the amazon draculaura too but she resells for 240 euros plus 60 euros shipping ... like damn ... the dolls are not worth it! I can get a custom art doll for the price!
Honestly I'm not as shocked about the doll as most people are and think she's actually kinda cute... but mostly just because I was expecting much worse 😂 that being said, I have no interest in buying her and I do find the whole "they'll buy anything we put out" mentality that is clearly represented in this doll to be rather frustrating
the doll is not my thing either, not their best work, but i think you guys should understand a bit more that it’s concept art. concept art is meant to be changed. it didn’t invalidate the vote because it changed. that’s just how concept art works, not to mention trying to get design to the real world (not that this excuses their shortcomings.) idk i just feel like nobody’s really thinking about that
I do get what you mean. I think it's the nature of the changes that bothers me? Like if the shoes were just a little less detailed on the doll, I would understand that that sort of thing happens when transitioning between mediums. But changing the colors doesn't make sense and is also a bigger alteration to what fans voted on imo
I was 100% going to buy Rochelle, but ultimately I decided not to buy her. $90 is a lot and I've been spending a lot of money recently, so I didn't feel good about buying her. I guess I'm waiting for the collector Spectra
Devil’s advocate position: perhaps it’s $90 since it’s made to order and that’s why it costs so much?? Maybe it’s the only way to keep the bots out? That’s the only non-cynical reason I can think of but I do agree with everything you said
That's definitely fair!! It would make sense, and I do like the idea of more actual fans being able to buy the doll. This seems so silly, but honestly if Mattel had released a statement explaining that the price is going up because of the made to order model I would be way less bothered. Like I don't like paying more, but if a company is open about the reason behind the price hike I think it feels less like fans are being taken advantage of.
For once I was considering not buying this doll, usually I’m there for every MH Mattel creations drop but for this one I was really considering skipping it bc the design of this doll is so abysmal, but literally two hours after it went live I caved and bought it anyway 😭, not bc I particularly like the design of the doll but bc I’m a crazy completionist; that being said, the design of the doll itself is terrible, the face is pretty but the dress (in true MH fashion) is tacky, too many bright colors, nothing about it gives Parisian chic, it gives highschool masquerade costume ball, I’m honestly just over Mattel overpricing these dolls simply bc of the collector label not bc the doll itself is interesting design wise, if the doll was $45-$50c I could kinda justify it, but the doll is $90, and that’s simply too much for such an unimpressive effort
I actually really wanted her despite the changes to the design (dress covers shoes, why we voted for shoes? lmfao), I dont own Rochelle and definitely wanted a pastel goth gargoyle babe in my collection. Unfortunately 90mf dollars fir a doll Im not having until A YEAR!!!????!!!????.... nah. Nah fam 😂😂😂 nahhhhhhh
Wait this is a negative video about Rochelle? What a surprise. This doll has so many haters so I ain’t surprised. Anyways love her. So glad I bought her.
I'm actually glad for some of the negativity...it did reassure me that I am not losing my mind. This doll is truly unpleasant to look at. I don't understand. I'm sure I read one time that Mattel is (one?) of the largest textile manufacturers in the world. Can't they manufacture something that is aqua and pale pink, instead of shiny fuchsia and practically turquoise? And the plastic "wrought iron" filigree is sooooo cheap-looking. It looks like something that would come in a Happy Meal. Have they never heard of dry-brushing?
I mean they make their own Saran too yet conviently use poly on so many g3 dolls claiming it’s too hard to get Saran
@@Man-wolf- They don't produce their own saran anymore.
The extremely shiny metallic look of the dress is really what made me change my mind on spending so much on her. It's quite disheartening
It feels like a nod to her original doll G1 skirt, X3650
Mattel understood that nostalgia sells much more than actual quality, the doll just has to be G1 inspired and everyone is going to get it regardless of how bad it may look :( I lost all of my interest in the collector line, it's a mess
For me, it’s not even that they didn’t let us vote on the dress, but they didn’t even show us the dress before voting on the other aspects. So we had zero idea what outfit we were even accessorizing. Even still, I really loved the concept art and was so excited for this doll. Rochelle is my all time favorite MH character. And when I saw the doll images, I was very mixed like you. And when I saw the price point I genuinely cried. I was just so upset. I could have probably justified buying her at 75, but 90 for a doll I wasn’t completely in love with just wasn’t happening
I probably won't get her... what really dissapointed me was the baby pink in the design going to metallic hot pink on the doll. Baby pink was like rochelles's thing you know? and not being able to see her boots because the dress is so long 💀💀. What really gets me going is when people don't like a doll but buy it anyway... Like I can't imagine wasting money on something that you don't even like 💀.
The alumni dolls are so expensive bc they know people will pay for them 🤷♀️ I've seen so many people upset about Rochelle's price but buying her anyway because of fomo, and that makes me so sad. As long as people keep buying the crappy alumni dolls, Mattel will keep making the crappy alumni dolls regardless of how loudly people complain. Money is the only language companies understand, so if we want something to change, we need to commit as a group to voting with our money. I'm not blaming anyone for giving in to fomo, I want to make that so clear. It's going to be hard for me to resist the Tiffany Valentine doll, whenever she comes out, but I'll manage.
Totally get what you mean, complaints don't matter for Mattel as long as there's a profit.
I’m happy to hear some negativity to be honest! FOMO is trying to convince me to buy her, but she’s probably going to be over $160 CAD after shipping and taxes, and I don’t even like her all that much lol. I also don’t like the idea that this is a prototype without a box design, so we don’t actually know what would show up at our door next year. For that price point, I want to know EXACTLY what I’m getting.
I'm glad the negativity could help lol 😂 I know what you mean, it's hard to not think "I should buy her just in case" but for me, I would rather spend $90+ on dolls I know I LOVE that I can get within a week
Your review was cathartic. You brought up a surprising number of points that I thought of at the time and then forgot about because at the end of the fang vote I knew I wouldn't be ordering her anyway. The dress - yes! I was shocked that I wasn't asked about what kind of dress I'd prefer, and it was at that point that I totally lost interest in purchasing this doll. And then Mattel chose one ('sigh - not another mermaid dress!') that hid the gorgeous stained glass shoes, which frankly boggled the mind. I did notice the lack of fingerless gloves as well, and that was sad. I didn't notice the color change until you mentioned it, but you are so right that the bright colors are jarring. The pastel pinks and blues of the concept art evoked images of a gargoyle high up on a church wall in the moonlight. That was such a lovely image. I think I'll just hold that image and hope for better days for Mattel's adult collector department.
Although I struggle with negative reviews, I thank you anyway for bringing up stuff that needed to be said.
I was a little bummed about Venus losing until I saw Rochelle's pricetag. I simply cannot afford that, even if I did like the doll enough to buy her.
My sister and I were on the same page about how shitty this dolls price is and how Mattel are clowns.
But then she texts me today saying “I think I’m going to buy Rochelle” and I’m like:
I’m going to disown you… 😒
Lol honestly I get it though, the fear of changing your mind later about an exclusive doll like this is real
Instead of a box she should have a clear display case and make her easy to take out and put back in.
i lowkey feel like they are doing these things on purpose. to this day, it still boggles my mind just how absolutely abysmal the release of the creeproductions were and those are arguably what has been sought after by the fans and have been requested to be restocked and mattel has just ignored that just to release very subpar/questionable "collector" dolls lol. even in the livestream for the new ghoulia doll they got asked about more creeproductions and they were like "you guys are gonna be happy" which makes me think they are gonna reproduce some other line of mh dolls before the signature core dolls that people have been asking for. theres just no way that mattel is this unable to deliver after so many poor attempts, they seem to not care.
I won’t miss her from my collection. And I’ve kinda plan on not buy many collectors this year. They REALLY gotta be A) my top favorite characters B) I gotta really love the doll C) I’m no longer gonna support Mattel if they continue with less for more period. D) I just don’t need every doll I’m running out of room, & I have both G1 and upcoming G3 I’d rather save my money for. E) they still owe me 2 dolls and this one ships so far in the future that I’m like idk where I’ll be then in my life. Just all round I’m happy I’m not a Rochelle fan I already knew I wasn’t gonna go after her now I’m just yes MH keep doing characters I do not care bout so I can save money! ESPECIALLY if they are gonna keep pulling BS. Least Ghoulia is my third favorite character and she was pretty great & not THAT insanely priced.
This doll is everything that enrages me about decisions made for Monster High dolls (at least for G1), beautiful face and hair, *but* way, and I mean *WAY* too much going on with the outfit design. I understand that Monster High has ways been huge on clashing patterns and printed fabric but I have always found myself leaning towards more complex designs with less pattern/printed-fabric but amazing color palette match. Idk why Mattel thinks that putting a doll in neon or metallic green and purple patterned clothing is a good idea. The *ONLY* characters that work well with this are:
1. Frankie: because she is literally stitched together so it makes sense for her clothing to have mismatched patterns to emulate her different stitched body parts.
2. Clawdeen: whose aesthetic in G1 is very edgy/neon so funky color pairings like green and purple just works well with her vibe.
3. Cleo: because she is an Egyptian mummy so therefore printed hieroglyphics work well on her clothing.
I tend to like over the top designs but I do agree with you in this case. I think for Rochelle, a more understated look fits better
@@FaeryTaleDolls absolutely, someone like Frankie or Cleo look great with busy fabric because of their vibe but Rochelle is a pastel, dainty queen that needs a more simplistic soft vibe.
This is SOOOOO real!!!The hair and faces r always so gorgeous but then u look at the outfit 💀 I had the same issue w skullector Ghoulia.
I love her and I’m happy I managed to order one. Plus these are stock photos and they may change some of the colours or design. Which I’m happy with either way. I’m also looking forward to seeing the box, I like that they’ve left that as a surprise. Overall I’m happy with it.
I hope she comes in relatively quick for you/that you love her when you get her 🥰
I ordered her not happy that with shipping & tax it was over $100. But I didn’t want to regret skipping since she’s only available until 4/16 11:59p PT to order. Sucks to wait until February next year but honestly I kind of wish made to order had been available for skullector dolls like Pennywise, Beetlejuice & Greta. I did notice there was an option to pay 4 payments with no interest or fees I was glad to see that option since they definitely just sprung this on us. ❤️🤗 def MH/mattel needs to work on creeproductions, reel drama, HC etc being not a heart break experience 🤞🤦🏻♀️.
That is good to know there's a payment plan option!! Still don't love the price lol but that helps
@@FaeryTaleDolls yes the price really makes me sad like $60-$75 I wouldn’t be surprised but $90 is insane when previous times those were 2 packs 🤦🏻♀️🤗
Almost a year to get a doll that's so wrong. The shipping should be free if that's the case.
@@iamsoverybored878 yea I think cause it’s made to order shipping was $6.95 but agree maybe $90 should include tax & shipping 🤷🏻♀️
Oh yeah that option existed, but didn't work. I don't know what was happening but I tried every which way I could shop pay WOULD NOT take my info. Said it couldn't authenticate my identity. But then when I went to pay outright with card with all info correct mattel creations said no your billing address has to be the same zip code as your state (even when the card I was using did not). SO I tried using my shipping address, the card whose info is actually from another state, and my shipping address as billing. Suddenly it took it. So the site was straight up jank
I dislike her dress , the shoes and the price , also I don’t like having to wait close to a year for her , it’s a hard no for me
I went over yesterday to see if they maybe changed the price, and were going to make appropriate changes so she would look like the concept art, but she wasn't even up for me to order if I wanted to; even though I have membership? And of course, no changes in design or price. I seriously thought about getting her because her face is pretty; but why buy her if she doesn't match what I want, and why pay such a huge price? I decided to pass and just save my money for a doll I want more whether that be MH or some other doll brand.
That's weird that the membership didn't show her as available for you! I didn't even look so I can't say whether I would have had the same problem. Definitely between the price, wait time, and weird changes I would rather buy another doll instead
I checked also that Thursday and I’m a member too and no it wasn’t available. I’m also passing up on this doll. I love her black lipstick and little face but we have to show them that it’s not right $90 is way too much.
I agree with your points. I thought the first Haunt Couture dolls were decent for $75 collector dolls (knowing collector dolls are higher-priced), but what they did with this doll goes too far in several regards. Also, I got the G3 Skulltimate Secrets Dracualura on sale for $40, including taxes and free shipping in Canada. In contrast, Rochelle would cost me $165, including taxes and shipping from the US. No thanks. I'll wait for the upcoming G3 dolls, even though I do love this Rochelle's face.
Only rich doll collectors and absolute Rochelle fans would save money to buy this doll.
I’m not a Monster High collector and I really liked the stock photos, but I did not know what she looked like in the concept art. There are definitely factors that I like, the aesthetic of the doll overall i really love even if i don’t love the colors.
They should have put lace socks on her to get the effect of the concept art.
With all that said, i kind of want her, but the fact that she’s $90 and wouldn’t ship until 2024??? That’s insane to me
i just watched your bjd recast video, then came to your channel page because i loved your way of speaking and personality! not sure how long ago it was. as a she/they i was so surprised and happy to see the differences in this video versus the last one i watched. i am so so happy for you and OBSESSED with your style 😭💕 your collection is such goals and i hope you are so fulfilled and happy and feel more yourself!! so much love, and also, nothing but facts in this video 🤧
Oh gosh thank you so much!! ♥ Yeah a lot has changed haha, it's kind of cool how my videos are like a time capsule ☺
One of my main gripes with the dress is easily seen in the photos, that people haven’t pointed out yet… THERE ARE LITERAL TEARS IN THE CHEAP PINK STRIPES!! Why would I pay $100+ for something that comes in looking like it’s been through a paper shredder?? You don’t even have to zoom in to see it. It’s right there.
I think that's actually on purpose/part of the design...I do think it doesn't look the best for Rochelle in this dress, but that's why I didn't mention it 🤷🏻♂
But it’s not in the original design anywhere, and it would be a strange design element to purposely tear up the dress and make her look cheaply made.
it feels,, rude for mattel to keep switching up on fans with prices. I wanted rochelle because i can’t afford her signature doll and i was thinking if i could get 75 dollars i could get her- but the price went up.
i loved ghoulia though, for the price and character she’s worth it for me
Hot take: Leaving the gloves off was a smart move. The look of the doll as a whole is already gross and busy looking, the gloves wouldn't have helped.
I do totally get what you're saying, for me personally, I'm upset the gloves are missing on principle. Like I think they're cute, but the biggest problem is just that they were presented as being part of the package and they aren't
One thing I think would also help if they took the top half of the skirt and remove it and bring up he bottom half of the skirt
I’m just fearful for my fave Robecca when she gets a doll.
Me with Venus 🥲
They could've done a knee length dress and done the leggings, footed-tights instead and that would've served
I have a feeling she will resell for very high.
I collect anime figures and MH and its sad that my $25-$50 anime figures have more attention to detail than the $90 Rochelle!? Rochelle is my FAVE MH and I could not justify $110 after tax/shipping AND the ship date of Feb 2024
Tbh I started raising my eyebrows from the accessory and shoe votes, but joke is we as a society we’re just adding gas to this fire
Mattel has really been constantly fumbling the bag, their designs have been dated especially when it comes to Barbie. I hope they clean up their act because this isn’t it let’s hope the Barbie movie could help save them but even then my hopes aren’t high for the dolls tbh 😕
With a made to order doll like this I just don't get why:
a) the window for purchase is SO tiny. Only 3 days???
b) why the late notice? Its not like there is a limited stock why are you waiting until the week of release to tell us, and a few days before to say "hey btw this is made to order so you won't see it until 2024!
c) finally: if its made to order, why not follow IT and Mizi style of collector dolls where at purchase you just put down a payment and when the doll is ready to ship you pay the remaining amount?
also its EMBARRASSING that the $50 Ghoulia looks better than the $100 doll... where did that double cost go??
Yeah the buying window is really short. I think it's honestly to pressure people who are on the fence about the doll into a quick and maybe rash decision so they don't have time to really consider.
I'm so upset Mattel is still announcing these things at the last minute. Give people some time to save up for it! I actually really like this Rochelle doll (I like both the concept art and the final product; although I lean towards the concept art a little more), and I can't buy her because she is way too expensive and I wasn't given any time to save up for her.
The price alone was insulting enough
In Europe she is a little under 100 euros with shipping, 94 euros, but I rather put that money on G3
I actually really like this doll! Its definitely my favorite collector Monster High doll but the 90 dollars price tag is too much, they should've lowered it to like 60 or 70 at most, the community voted for this doll so I feel like it should be more accessible to the community.
I enjoyed this video & I agree with all your opinions about this Rochelle doll 🥲.
I'm also low key mad about the color, lack of gloves, and that it's a cliche type of dress.
Honestly I got the fang club membership, so that I can stop complaining about not getting the chance 😂 to get a doll. And then £89 + £4 postage just put me off as I could get 4/5 dolls for that. Otherwise I loved her I just wanted a posh doll
The doll both looks too busy with the patterns but also not worth the price.
very unrelated but omg another oliver that loves monster high!!! 🥰🤣
Ayyy
I pre ordered her, but first time i feel like that's not right, it's too expensive and the doll is not perfect
Mattel just doesn't give a crap about their fan base, every doll lately looks like old men sitting in a board room trying to design a hip doll but they are sooooo out of touch!
Why is anyone surprised that Mattel doesn't respect the fans and over charge for their poorer quality. They think they can charge Rainbow High prices for Steffie Love quality.
Is there any precedent in fashion history for a wrought-iron exo-cage for a floor-length dress? I can’t get past the impracticality of it. Even though it looks interesting, it doesn’t make sense to me. And putting it over the already super-busy dress design is visually discombobulating. I don’t think it’s that they didn’t try, but they tried too hard. Parisian chic should feel effortless. That said I can understand why many might like it because it is quite fun in a way. I wish they’d gone softer with the colours, shorter with the dress, subtler with the iron and much much lower with the price.
The cage is definitely impractical lol, but I think it would have been really fun with a different piece underneath
IVE BEEN WAITING AND DYING FOR YOUR OPINION 😭🤚
I hope this was satisfying lol
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but apparently the images that have come out are a 3D render of the doll rather than actual photos? Maybe at least the sheer fabric at the bottom of the dress has a chance to be less transparent if that's true lol. I don't know if that could explain the lack of box photos. $90 is ridiculous though
See I've heard conflicting things! Some people are saying the photos are a prototype and some are saying that it is indeed a 3D render. Either way leaves room for improvement in the final doll, which is nice. But yeah the $90 price tag makes it rough...i wouldn't want to spend that in the hope that the product I get is better
@Faery Tale Dolls Right, soon after she was announced I saw a screenshot of the mattel creations listing for the doll on twitter that said the images were 3D renderings. I only went on the website to check now and all the wording is the same as in that screenshot except for the renderings phrase, which is now instead "prototypes". I guess they might have edited it? So it seems a bit unclear what the images are exactly, other than that they're not the final product, but in any case personally I wouldn't buy a doll anywhere near that price if it isn't close to perfect to me (though I feel like I generally am not willing to spend as much on a doll as many people are, so that doesn't say much). Mattel potentially not being able to put out images of a physical doll at this point (if it's a 3D rendering) also doesn't fill me with confidence tbh.
Maybe they justified $90 to themselves cus they saw it as like a “custom made” doll for fans, that’s the only way I can visualize why they thought it was worth that much. But not only did they not follow the 2D art (missing gloves, different colors), but it’s not like this is one person buying materials and fabric & making the doll by hand from clay, it’s a huge company with plenty of resources and money, so charging damn near a $100 is just ridiculous
design aside, i thought the materials itself didnt look that high qual. could just be me being noob in dolls
Unless it's really bad I usually can't tell material quality until I can touch it 😅
You make some really good points. Also this doll won't be available til February of 2024!? Is that normal to have wait so long for the collector dolls to come out? I thought it was around 6 months, not almost a whole year. I don't have a lot of g1 dolls, but seeing this, I wouldn't guess that it was even a g1. Does that make sense? And I just can't see where the budget went. I feel bad for MH fans, especially the hardcore fans, who seem to keep getting duped by Mattel. It all seems so shady in something that is supposed to be fun.
Most others are shorter shipping times, but I think Rochelle is being made to order, hence the longer wait time. I'm not an expert in the industry but to be honest, I'm surprised the turnaround is that long for such a big company. Like I get that a small BJD business might have a lot wait time for casting, but I guess I just expected Mattel to have a slightly easier time of making made to order dolls? Like I said though, I'm no expert so maybe this is normal 🤷🏻♂
However her being made to order with a long shipping time does make me wonder what exactly makes the OTHER collector dolls take 6 months to ship?? If they're premade I wouldn't think it would take that long
Agree with everything you said, although when i first saw her my first thought was "hot mess" the dress would have looked so much better with a pastel non foil pink and if the entire flare out at the bottom were transparent. Her purse should be my favourite thing ever, but the hot pink totally kills it. The design is just too much, which is disappointing, because a few tweaks and it could have been amazing. The more I look the worse it gets... those earrings make her look like she has Minnie mouse ears....
Small tidbit but the ears being on the top of Rochelle’s head isn’t actually a “gargoyle thing” bc if you look at Garrett Du Roque, he actually had his ears on the side instead of on top like her.
Rochelle is my fav mh character but I can’t afford $90 end of story, I just really hope they give her a signature in g3 cuz every signature in g3 has been pretty much perfect in my eyes
I agree, I'd love to see her in a g3 design
Same here, I keep hoping she'll make an appearance in G3. Rochelle is my favourite but this collector doll isn't pretty
HI. I ordered 2 of her because I'm in Love with her! I think she's so Pretty even if there are some problems for sure..!🤨 First disapointement is the price point. 90 Dollars / 102 Euros🤨😖 STOP That Please Mattel, it's way too much for a plastic doll. Second disapointement, where are the gloves and the earrings that we voted for her to have???😫 And third disapointement, the colour... 😨😱We were voted for pastel colours initialy and finally we have bright ones...??!!! This is a real disapointement!😞 Sorry Mattel I love her but this is not exactly what we voted for. And the last ridiculous thing is ... the shipping time.... What is this Mattel??? Are you serious? Ship on ... February 2024😱😨😱 It's SO LONG... So I think that with this exagerated shipping time you can improve her colours, add the gloves and earrings to the doll. Please Mattel if you read this message don't make fun of us and improve this doll before to ship... Thanks🙏🙏🙏
I know it will be a long time, but I hope that when you get her you love her!
for $90 I wouldn't use those garish metallic stripes, it really doesn't look deluxe, especially since a few months later they came out with Vampire Heart Draculura which is one of the most deluxe looking dolls since the gen 1 Victorian looking Draculaura. I know that Vampire Heart Draculura was $100 but if $10 more makes it go from play-line to couture then maybe they should just sick to that. I'd rather pay $100 for a whole new doll experience rather than Mattel keep asking for $70 per doll (that would have costed half the price in G1) because they are using the G1 mold. It's greedy and disgusting. I can't see how this design justifies $90 when the IP dolls are $65-75 (since in theory those would cost more due to licensing).
On top of all this they've since made these half-assed fan votings a perk of being a Fang Club member, which feels like them telling fans outright that they don't care about your opinions on products you want to buy unless you are paying to voice them...
I was going to get her because she wad Iconic, but that changed when I saw her price. $90!!!!! NO, absolutely not. The shoes look so different,like why!!! I do think the shoes are pretty, BUT we can barely see them because of the dress. I feel like had she had the dot dead or drop dead gorgeous ( whatever it's called), Opperetta dress, it would have been soooo pretty but no. And where are her gloves????? And premium packaging????? We don't even know what the packaging looks like!!! Anyways I hope we get a Rochelle g1 monster high doll here soon because the reason I wanted her is because I never had a Rochelle doll.
Rochelle is such a pretty character and I'm also really sad with how she came out. Even though I wasn't completely in love with the concept art I was still hoping she would turn out even better in doll form and...nope 🙃
@@FaeryTaleDolls Yeah, had we got to choose the dress it probably would have been better. I feel like the dress should be shorter, like the bottom part of her dress should be a skirt, so we could see the shoes.
I feel so bad for the creators bc they keep getting so much hate but like.. there are a lot of flaws. It seems like they're rushing and trying to add as much detail and pop as possible
I do feel like a lot of the issues probably come from areas outside of the designers. I don't know exactly who is in charge of what, but the designers might not be allowed to pick the perfect fabrics and such (like they might have to choose from what Mattel will allow and this could have been the best of those options), and as you said they might be under a lot of time pressure. Plus the price is definitely not their fault.
I guess my thought is the concept might not be my taste but that doesn't mean it's bad. The execution is what I have a problem with and I think designers come under fire because they are accessible on social media, when really it might corporate constraints that lead to the less than stellar release
To be honest she looks cheap for a doll that its price is over 100 is not worth it. In my case it would be $116 and I don't feel like she looks like a $116 doll. looks like a cheap cake topper🤷🏻♀️
they will continue to milk G1 until people stop buying them... I don't know why people are still supporting them.
Not to mention the fact it's a preorder and says it doesn't ship till Feb of next year
Im not into MH but this doll has a really cute face. It sucks shes so overpriced! Her dress looks so cheap. Mattel has made beautiful gowns for collector Barbies so they are capable of making nicer clothes.
I won't get Fang Vote Rochelle the price and ship her in February of next year
I’m late to this BUT. I think Rochelle should’ve had a full skirt like her basic doll, instead of a hem at the knee
I just saw an ig post where allegedly Rebecca (the designer for Rochelle) said that the doll shown is a prototype and I’m like ????? Why would they release her now 😭😭😭
I think because she's made to order all they have is the prototype?
Designers have to make what is called a design model in order to photograph it (to promote the doll) and have a prototype for the manufacturer (in China or Indonesia) to follow. IMO, the dress silhouette is so awkward, I'm not sure what they were thinking. You are correct about the earrings, the doll would have been fine with only the earrings (lose the tiara). One thing that bugs me personally is using plastic where soft goods should be. That bizarre plastic net overvest doesn't work on this dress at all. Rochelle's dress would have been really cute as a mini, bubble skirt dress with the leg o'mutton sleeves and a plastic corset. The shoe design is spook-tacular and would have been gore-geously showcased by a short skirt (and blacked painted straps with the blue bows). Then, the doll with floor length hair would have been a nice contrast to the skirt length. It's a case of 10 pounds of merde in a five pound bag....
While your points aren't wrong, there are some pieces of information that make some of these points less of the current main sticking point. Rochelle is the first ever made to order doll, therefore what images they showed us of the doll aren't actually a full prototype (someone said its 3d rendered but I don't know it looks like a prototype) so parts of what we're seeing can easily be tweaked before the final doll. Meaning it technically possible that colors and gloves could all be fixed (and if there was ever a time for mattel to listen likely could be fixed after all the uproar about the proto theyve shown us)That's also the same reason they didn't show us her box: it doesn't exist yet. Why couldn't they just draw us a concept so we at least know what the hell we're in for: good question I think the designers likely want to but corporate still hasn't committed on a design yet. She's projected to not be ready to ship until February of next year, so its clear theres time to finalize things or tweak them.
The single biggest sticking point is the cost. Like or dislike the design there is alot going on here, there are even a decent amount of pieces to me this is definitely at least a haunt couture level price of a doll they didn't give us a fabric purse but they gave us a real chain and giant cage dress piece. But that isn't what happened. And since whoever dumbass is on top decided to push the doll preorder thru without showing us the "premium packaging" we have no way of justifying how much or little the box does to contribute to that cost. Even if they give us gloves and change the shade of pink the cost problem is still there and by the time anyone finds out everyone will have already paid anyways or missed out.
The other ENORMOUS problem they did for this release specifically that nerfed so many was they cut down payment methods, including paypal being gone. If it wasn't visa, mastercard, or shoppay charging your visa or mastercard it would not accept it. (honestly shoppay wouldn't accept my shit even when I was trying to use it so all around shop pay is a piece of shit why remove paypal but keep shop pay). So even people who LIKE the design and decided to commit despite the cost STILL couldn't. Mattel's excuse? Some stupid wrestlemania crowdfunding event. They turned it off for that event but apparently are idiots that don't know how to limit payment methods on a SINGLE thing instead of the whole site, idiots that dont know not to schedule a crowdfunding event and doll preorder at the same time, or both. I vote both. Its bad when people don't want a product, even worse when people DO but still can't for the dumbest reason imaginable. Like we finally get a release where scalpers aren't a problem (there are no ordering limits and all are made to order) the ONE time where everyone who wants her should be able to get her and they STILL fuck it up.
Onto the doll herself: I still like her and think she'll turn out fine in person. I personally didn't assume the concept to be exact one to one so the colors being slightly different or any of that I expected and was fine with. Her gloves being absent is an issue as its a direct omission but as a doll and based on the look they gave us her without gloves looks fine the gloves might have made it too busy. I like the makeup look she has but might consider trying to add more blush on my own, I don't hate it it isn't a deal breaker so I might leave her alone. The biggest issue wasn't that she didn't look exactly like her concept, its that the concept didn't look like 90, the image of the proto doll doesn't look like 90, and unless that box has a light up stained glass window the box probably still wont look like 90. I actually don't even mind the wait it will make resellers want to piss off even more (and gives them time to tweak based on comments). I also wouldn't have minded the cost so much if I had been able to use paypal as planned. See 100 is way less divided into payments thru paypal credit financing. But they botched the one potentially good part of her cost. After learning all of this last 48 hours I had to really think about whether to buy her and how.
Eventually after looking at ebay this release started looking better. SO many listings had body parts (hands/wings) missing and if you're not wanting scaris or ghouls night out all of your options for good quality all pieces included start getting so absurd that buying the brand new collector doll with rooted lashes suddenly looked reasonable. Rochelle's pricing gets crazy. This helped influence my decision since I couldn't get a different Rochelle doll as a consolation prize without hitting haunt couture prices. At least she's brand new, in box, and super fancy. Colors be damned I LOVE that giant cage dress. Even the best g1 rochelle's didn't ever quite do this and her core doll was 120 on ebay. So after asking to borrow money from family (yes I will pay back I'm damn good about doing that) I got this doll. Our only other options to get rochelle without getting REALLY stupid with money will be creeproductions (which we only pray will exist) and g3 (which we also currently only pray will exist but this one has a better chance).
I also had alot of thoughts but after pouring through comments and being outraged by the fang club forum filled with assholes who were of no help whatsoever and just kept saying "why doesn't everyone have a regular credit card" completely ignoring international buyers and the fact that not all "regular" credit methods are visa and mastercard or shit like "if you can't buy it outright you shouldn't buy the doll anyways" like that one REALLY made me mad. Thank god someone called them out for being classist cause its not a manner of if I or anyone else can spend 100 on ONE doll specifically, its that we as doll collectors get no warnings or heads up and sometimes drops can happen after we already spent money on OTHER dolls. Cause you know those still exist, and skulltimate secrets JUST CAME OUT so even among monster high there were other things happening. Yes I still got to buy her but you can tell I'm still really mad about it I shouldn't have to ask family to be afterpay FOR me
I do agree the payments being restricted is a HUGE issue. I filmed this before I saw that statement so I wasn't able to talk about that as well, but yeah that's pretty messed up. Especially with a made to order doll, they could have lengthened her purchase window/rescheduled it to make sure all normal payment methods could be accepted.
As far as the actual doll being better than the prototype, I do agree that's a potential outcome as well. I guess just because of Mattel's track record with MH collector dolls, I don't trust them to make those improvements 🙃
@@FaeryTaleDolls I'm at least of the opinion where I'll still like her if they don't so I have that to my benefit. Luckily I have a year to cool down from the payment mess and cost debacle but I swear if that box doesn't light up lol
To be fair them changing the color of the bows on the shoes is not that big of a deal,it everything put together that make it a major disappointment.
I TOTALLYYY AGREE i was legit gonna buy her & then it kept getting worse for me too.. plus WONT SHIP TILL 2024 ?! absolutely absurd to tie $90 of my hard working money for a doll i won’t even get for a year so no i didn’t buy her 😂
Why is the metallic pink flaking off the dress? Why have long boots if they’re going to be covered? Why so much turquoise and pink?
Silver, black, and white would’ve worked better with hints of pastels. For $90+ I expected a lot more
The fang vote was obviously rigged from the start. They already had the sketch in the trailer….
Agree 100!!!!!
Ngl, I actually really love her handbag. The rest is kind of meh for me.
This doll was a HUGE miss for me. 😳 The design + the high price = No go for me.
Did anyone ever even get this doll shipped to them cause I haven’t seen anyone post about her in person
She isn't meant to arrive until Jan or Feb of next year!
I’m completely agree.
PACKAGING SHOULD NOT MAKE UP THE $90! I'm sorry, it shouldn't no matter what. Btw I agree with you, just wanted to rant :p
FINALLY I’m so tired of everyone saying we should wait for the packing AS THAT SHOULDNT MATTER
your paying for a doll not a box
For me this whole process has been a bit disrespectful to the MH community. The decision was made WAY before we even voted. They knew what they wanted and pretended that we chose any of this. They don’t have any product considering that they are showing a lot of renderings. The fact that they have to put a disclaimer on it because there are more changes probably coming. The fact that they made certain forms of payment not useable so people couldn’t ask for refunds is disrespectful.
I would not be upset by the release date or price point IF i knew that i would be getting a quality doll. I am completely understanding of a made to order doll but considering the quality lately….plus they can’t even produce playline dolls in a timely matter.
With postage and all for me here in the Land of Oz - $170AU. 🤬😡💢😡🤬
I thought the doll was really cool, until you talked about the voting issues, I’d be hella upset if they did that 😔
Yeah I think that's what made this one so rough 🥲
I truly would have gotten her for 90 dollars because I love Rochelle... but Europe gets these from resellers only so she is 200 euros here! I truly hate Mattel now for doing this to loyal European customers 😢😢😢 I love the amazon draculaura too but she resells for 240 euros plus 60 euros shipping ... like damn ... the dolls are not worth it! I can get a custom art doll for the price!
Honestly I'm not as shocked about the doll as most people are and think she's actually kinda cute... but mostly just because I was expecting much worse 😂 that being said, I have no interest in buying her and I do find the whole "they'll buy anything we put out" mentality that is clearly represented in this doll to be rather frustrating
I gotta keep my expectations lower lol
the doll is not my thing either, not their best work, but i think you guys should understand a bit more that it’s concept art. concept art is meant to be changed. it didn’t invalidate the vote because it changed. that’s just how concept art works, not to mention trying to get design to the real world (not that this excuses their shortcomings.) idk i just feel like nobody’s really thinking about that
I do get what you mean. I think it's the nature of the changes that bothers me? Like if the shoes were just a little less detailed on the doll, I would understand that that sort of thing happens when transitioning between mediums. But changing the colors doesn't make sense and is also a bigger alteration to what fans voted on imo
You hit all the nails on the head with this one. So disappointed in monster high.
I was 100% going to buy Rochelle, but ultimately I decided not to buy her. $90 is a lot and I've been spending a lot of money recently, so I didn't feel good about buying her. I guess I'm waiting for the collector Spectra
Devil’s advocate position: perhaps it’s $90 since it’s made to order and that’s why it costs so much?? Maybe it’s the only way to keep the bots out? That’s the only non-cynical reason I can think of but I do agree with everything you said
That's definitely fair!! It would make sense, and I do like the idea of more actual fans being able to buy the doll. This seems so silly, but honestly if Mattel had released a statement explaining that the price is going up because of the made to order model I would be way less bothered. Like I don't like paying more, but if a company is open about the reason behind the price hike I think it feels less like fans are being taken advantage of.
@@FaeryTaleDolls That would be nice for companies to be transparent and open!
HARD PASS!!! Only because of the Price!!!
❤❤I She is a bit pricy but she's beautiful have to have her yikes🤗👺🔥
This doll was poorly executed. She could have been so much better if they had stuck to the design 😢
For once I was considering not buying this doll, usually I’m there for every MH Mattel creations drop but for this one I was really considering skipping it bc the design of this doll is so abysmal, but literally two hours after it went live I caved and bought it anyway 😭, not bc I particularly like the design of the doll but bc I’m a crazy completionist; that being said, the design of the doll itself is terrible, the face is pretty but the dress (in true MH fashion) is tacky, too many bright colors, nothing about it gives Parisian chic, it gives highschool masquerade costume ball, I’m honestly just over Mattel overpricing these dolls simply bc of the collector label not bc the doll itself is interesting design wise, if the doll was $45-$50c I could kinda justify it, but the doll is $90, and that’s simply too much for such an unimpressive effort
Yeah, she’s a fail… :( what a shame 😢
I am definitely not going to get her this is very disappointing.
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She is so disappointing. With sum of the accessories I don’t like the dress is also disappointing.
I actually really wanted her despite the changes to the design (dress covers shoes, why we voted for shoes? lmfao), I dont own Rochelle and definitely wanted a pastel goth gargoyle babe in my collection. Unfortunately 90mf dollars fir a doll Im not having until A YEAR!!!????!!!????.... nah. Nah fam 😂😂😂 nahhhhhhh
Yeah I get the longer wait time with a made to order doll but it is really hard to be excited about
Wait this is a negative video about Rochelle? What a surprise. This doll has so many haters so I ain’t surprised. Anyways love her. So glad I bought her.
I mean I'm happy you liked her!