I've always wanted a Zelda game where Ganondorf is freed from Demise's control and actually fights for the side of good. Perhaps this is the perfect opportunity to make that a reality. Maybe the sceam Ganondorf makes in the final trailer is not him asserting his dominance through overwhelming ressurection and control of malice, but rather a desperate shout for freedom from the malice in his body. A shout shortly followed by the emergence of the King of Demons himself from Ganondorf.
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
long term zeldatube content lurker. your video was one of the best researched and put together that i’ve seen in a long time - especially at a time when the big tubers are basically putting out junk and riffing on 10 seconds of news for 10 minutes (no shame i get it). well done.
Thanks Jayde! I love talking Zelda, and I felt a need to make content in response to what I’ve been seeing from others about Zelda theories. I wonder how this video would be received if I posted it in r/ToTK 🤔 🤣
@@vaisli3136 I appreciate the compliments! Also thanks for watching another video I recommended. Happy to have you around, but also, feel free to poke at any holes you may see in my theories so I can stay on track for the community 😂
@@garrettlambert714 thanks for watching another video of mine! I’m not going to bat 1,000 on content that everyone appreciates, but comments like this keep me motivated to continue making quality content regardless of people liking my ideas.
Well, Impa's case, we know due to BotW Sheikah don't usually live that much longer than other humans. Purah is the oldest Sheikah alive at the time of BotW (not counting the monks), and she's only 124. Impa, her younger sister, is around 120 and is clearly on her last legs. The fact that Impa faded away at the end of Skyward Sword similar to the monks suggests me that her life was also artificially extended.
Wow, what a prediction on the tree/roots. Though Link activates the light roots and repels the malice, I assumed that the tree Ganondorf is regenerating in is connected to them all and seems to be interwoven with the depths of the Hyrule Castle seal itself. Seemed like he was attempting to corrupt and take control over all of it.
There’s some sort of mythology tied to all of it, and I was trying to look into this further, but it’s proving to be difficult. My mind can’t help but draw parallels from Sekiro with the Divine Dragon who is tied to the Everblossom. Maybe I’ll find something I can convey if I look hard enough/get more creative with my searches!
Man, your thought process is UNMATCHED! I think I did about 10 "mindblows" during this video--great research, analysis and speculation. I'm going to do more in-depth research for "Jubaku," as it features prominently in a book I'm writing, but THANK YOU for introducing the term to me.
Hey well thanks for the accolades! You’ll have to thank QuestWithAaron for the etymology I researched for this specific video, definitely check out the two videos I linked in the description! He has an awesome perspective on Zelda 😎
@@wizcatcheslightningNo worries! It’s great to hear someone so knowledgeable about the franchise speak about theories like this. I look forward to future videos you release 😊
@@WhiteWolf2874 rock n roll! Yeah Zelda Ocarina of Time was one of the earliest video games I encountered growing up. As you can probably tell, I became obsessed with the series, especially after discovering the first timeline theories 😅 And thank you. Comments like that make the effort to make this content worth it. Hope to make you proud in the future!
in the time gannon was sealed made the malace slowly become more dense concentrations of malice what would cause for it to become a differnt term to it wich its then called gloom
You don’t get a triforce piece based on how much you represent the specific attribute, but instead how much you believe in it. Ganondorf got the piece of power in OOT because that’s the attribute he believed in most, not necessarily because he was the most powerful in Hyrule.
Also there’s a theory that Demise’s sword later became the Kokri sword. The red gem, and the fact that the gilded sword’s design is very similar to Ghirahim. It’s most likely not true and doesn’t have a lot of evidence but it’s a nice fun little theory. Edit was the fact that I can never remember how to exactly spell Ghirahim
@@wizcatcheslightning no, it’s just a thing online I’ve read a few times. You can most likely find it mentioned elsewhere online. I originally found out this theory from a random UA-cam comment on a Zelda theory video
I addressed this issue in the video with my point made about what a Sheikah like Impa qualifies as a really long time. I also included a terrible math problem to further strengthen that argument because cosmic beings definitely perceive Time differently from humans. Demise doesn’t have the title “the Conqueror of Time” without merit 🤣
Very well put together video! There are a few times in the narration where you say "conscience" when I think you mean "consciousness", but it is otherwise flawless.
Thanks! Not sure what the complete term is, but as you can imagine, it’s hard to make annunciations in the mic. But essentially we are talking about Demise’s anima or mind.
While you present a nice argument I definitely disagree. It feels to me like Demise eventually became nothing as it decayed in the Master Sword. I can't prove that, I can only say that that is my best guess at the intent from the story writers. I always try to think about what the developers of the game are trying to convey, my opinion is that Demise was made to be the explanation of why Ganondorf and other villains' always seem to come about to challenge Link and Zelda. I know its not as fun as thinking Demise will come back, and of course I could be wrong. Regardless nice video!
Hey, at the end of the day, that’s okay that you disagree! Disagreeing furthers the conversation I want my viewers to have about the Zelda series as we all wait with baited breath (of the wild) for this dang sequel to come out 🤣
@@wizcatcheslightning yeah true, plus a lot of stuff isn’t fully set in stone or confirmed so we can all theorize and agree or disagree on the finer details that interest us.
Demise and Gannon is one and the same... Just as Zelda is the re-incarnation of Hylia... Gannon is the re-incarnation of Demise... The scar on Denise's forehead is In the same place that Gannon's stolen tear is... And the scar on his chest is where Zonai Raru sealed Gannon for some time
I kinda felt like facing Demise instead of Ganondorf for a moment, when Ganondorf in TOTK was sealed. He was enthusiastical about facing a worthy opponent. Whereas Ganondorf reacts more frustrated on being defeated, Demise loves war and destruction in all forms. His power also seems to exceed the mere secret stones by far. In the end, however, Ganondorf pretty much reacted Ganondorf-like.
I wonder what his thoughts were after Demise was not part of TotK and there was an additional MacGuffin that came out if nowhere.. and basically gave a human Ganondorf, Demise like powers..
@@wizcatcheslightning It is definitely a mix of both, even if they didn't specifically state it. Somehow TotK feels like a mix of all things.. just like how the Lands in Dark Souls 3 all converge in one place.
@@Lordbritt I really love getting into the editing booth and getting creative for all of you, so again, and I genuinely mean this, thank you for that 🥹
I think it's kinda cool how so many people from the comunity want Ganon to be "cleansed" and for him to fight alongside Link and Zelda with Demise. If he really is a corrupted piece of the trio, maybe purification would allow them to defeat Demise?
If the story plays out this way, I won’t be disappointed. It’s similar to Groose’s character redemption arc in Skyward Sword. I don’t know if it’s ever said outright, but a lot of people speculate that Groose was the descendant of the Gerudo. He has red hair and topaz colored eyes.
Nice video. It has always been pretty strange how long everyone lives in the Zelda series. Maybe time is different here. I mean the days in BoTW are pretty short I am sure since I woke up in the chamber it's been like 5 in-game years. So maybe somebody already did the math but 10000years could translate to 100 or so of our years. That makes more sense for their longevity
Seeing that last trailer with what looks like a figure that resembles demise and the sword being severely damaged..I believe demises evil essence escapes the sword in the underground tunnels, damaging links hand, reviving mummy Ganondorf and shooting towards the sky. We see the possessed Ganondorf in the trailer who summons the monsters but eventually demise takes over completely and somehow the human Ganondorf is able to be separated from demise and thats why we see the Ganondorf with the samurai sword and the ponytail looking normal and he zelda and link have to collect tears to fight demise
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
What if on the next Legend of Zelda that all 3 Link Zelda and Ganondorf have to stop demise since therefore only needs the seal broken and doesnt need ganondorf just a vessel
I was thinking instead of Zelda dying or having her soul absorbed she would have the triforce taken from her, only managing to keep her own shard and the tiforce of power (or maybe a temporary physical triforce with the power to wish demise back) could revive ganondorf or demise
Having someone comment more than once on several videos is not a problem AT ALL! Keep them coming. They promote the video to other people who could potentially enjoy the channel. Excellent observation! I’ll have to take a look at that when I get a chance.
So, Link brings Demise's misty remains with him to his own present timeline! But what happened to the past timeline where Demise was beaten? Did the gate of time make sure that the past and present are linked? But would that not mean that Ghirahim was gone and could not mess with Zelda? My head hurts. Messing with time is bad juju!
I would love seeing ganondorf just getting stabbed in the head bc its iconic and then like darkness flowws out of like a ton of darkness or malice and then the demise would rise to battle as the real final boss
The more that I watch videos like this, the more I believe that we would all understand the Zelda timeline(s) better if the localization teams had done their jobs correctly.
I like what you said about swords having souls. I think there's an idea somewhere in Japanese folklore that sword makers in the creation of swords, make them in twos?? But I'm not sure, just a thought!
At 1:58 on the last trailer we see link facing the mummified Ganondorf that has Malice erupting from his chest. It shows that the Master Sword has already been damaged. It also shows that the glowing blue hand is now gone. Did this hand attack Link? In previous trailers it shows malice flowing out along the ground and a blue spiral going upwards. was the hand syphoning power from Malice, much like separating clean H2O from mucky water? Was it to power the Shieka or Zonai technology? 47 days plus whatever game time we'll find out, I guess...
That’s a really good question! And I’ve seen quite a few Zeldatubers speculate that this could be the case. It’s definitely plausible, but I have a hard time shaking the idea of a Zonai magic hand powering sheikah tech. I’m not ruling it out of the realm of possibility however!
I know this is wishful thinking, but i really want him to come back, just cuz his final fight was amazing But it is also very likely for him to come back, as we see he was sealed on the sword, and the sword is broken on the new game, thus maybe releasing it And we also see him in two states on the trailer, one with flowing fire like hair (just like demise) and we also see normal ganondorf
Even though it would be much cooler if Demise possessed Ganondorf. I think that there is a possibility of Ganon coming back, as I think that, even though he is likely dead, his spirit is contained in the endless malice within his corpse. If this is the case, then the Ganon could possess his corpse, as Malice has been seen being able to possess dead enemies to create the cursed skull enemies. The reason I think that his spirit could be within the malice in his corpse is that Calamity Ganon, which is formed by the collection of malice overflowing from Ganon's corpse, seems to retain an imprint of Ganon's will since it retains its boar forms and the body it creates out of Sheikah tech resembles Ganondorf.
As I recall the Zeldas that came after the first one only have the blood of the Goddess Hylia so I think if Demise comes back, consuming BoTW's Zelda soul won't get him much aside from maybe gaining the Triforce if she unknowingly has it. Unless I'm mistaken on the Hylia situation here. :P Though could be a moot point if Hylia makes an appearance in ToTK anyways. :P
Yes, but the blood of the goddess (and the reincarnation of Hylia’s soul), as far as we know, gets passed from Zelda to Zelda. Zelda’s mother in BOTW would have had the soul of Hylia before she did, for example. Let me know what you think or I can explain further.
@@wizcatcheslightning I’m pretty sure it’s just powers passed down from Hylia. We can speak with and hear her spirit in BotW when talking to goddess statues.
@@WindMageMaster Bandit Games actually came out with a theory about that voice of the statues being Zelda’s mother (which would explain her mother’s untimely death), it’s definitely worth checking out.
Blatantly Dead Ganondorf™️ also, my guess is that Demise will be referenced but not appear directly. i can’t see them bringing him fully back. but i could be wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No idea how you made the TM superscript but I’m all about it 😎 👉👉 Also thanks 😆 Yes, it’s all theoretical (wishful) thinking. I just wanted to make a case for how Demise could return and share it with you all 🥲
You’re right. I meant .01 as in 1% instead of 1/1000th. I am notoriously bad at math and probably should have had someone look at the math before adding it in. Hopefully you didn’t find many holes in the other content presented 😆
I believe after seeing the final trailer that Ganondorf will be seen as the main Antagonist of the game but at the very end of the game, when we see Ganondorf sort of powering up he’ll transform into Demise who I strongly believe we see near the beginning of the trailer
@@clonetrooper2003 to your credit, I made this video without considering specific points. But after seeing that final trailer, I expanded on my theory to include both. So that’s my bad. Check out my “Is this DEMISE?” video and you’ll see what I mean
This video's idea his heavily flawed as it directly contradicts the game itself which shows us Demise is gone for good. First we have Fi straight up tell us he's been destroyed, and that she's absorbed his residual consciousness. 終焉の者の消滅を確認 残留する思念をマスターソードーに吸収…封印完了しました… I confirm the annihilation of Demise… I absorbed the residual thoughts into the Master Sword… The sealing has been completed… ~ Fi (Skyward Sword) Then we have Impa confirm this residual consciousness will decay within the sword with her watching over it to ensure this process is completed. そして終焉の者の思念が 剣の中で朽ち行く今・・・誰かが あの剣を見守って行かねばなりません And now that the thoughts of the One of Demise are proceeding to decay within the blade… Someone must watch over that blade. 終焉の者が 目を覚ます事があってはならない・・・世界が 再び脅威にさらされては ならないのです・・・ The One of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again… ~ Impa (Skyward Sword) Then finally we have her death. Impa’s death: ua-cam.com/video/mW5L5CLY3UM/v-deo.html Impa swore herself to a Divine task, Sheikah can live basically forever if they are awaiting the completion of a Divine task they have been entrusted with as seen in BOTW. the only way for Impa to die would for her task to be complete. which was the complete decay of Demise. In other words, there is ZERO chance of Demise ever returning.
Additionally. Zelda does not reincarnate, she is a blood descendant and there evidence for link reincarnating is iffy at best, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series lore. Malice is not unique to Demise or Ganondorf. Malice is the power of Demons, it is their grudges and curses. Vaati, Malladus, Twinrova, Onox, Veran, etc. etc. are all members of the demon tribe and all have malice. Ganondorf is not some possessed man, the malice in botw is the result of his grudge being so powerful it becomes physical much like we've seen happen in games like SS where monsters (who are minor members of the demon tribe) drop malice infused crystals.
You know, it’s instances like these where I wish I understood Japanese, but I unfortunately do not. If this is your first video of mine viewed, I suggest watching the other Zelda content before this video to better understand my perspective. Your Japanese sounds flawed, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because (unfortunately) it’s not my native language, and it is a language I don’t understand. If your Japanese is 100% correct (we have to acknowledge that translation between any two languages is never 100% because translation between two languages is always a compromise), then your interpretation/reasoning is flawed. When you say Fi refers to Demise being annihilated, it sounds like you’re talking about Demise as a whole (Demise the being/entity) no longer existing. This can be true, while at the same time, Demise’s residual consciousness can be sealed inside of the Master Sword. So Demise the entity is gone, he no longer has form. Yet his residual consciousness is in the Master Sword. His corpus, or body, is split from his anima, his soul/mind. If Demise’s body is gone but his soul/mind remains in the Master Sword, he’s not fully annihilated (which is basically Latin for “no longer existing” or “nothing”). He wouldn’t need to be sealed within the Master Sword if he were absolutely gone. If Demise were completely gone, why would anyone need to watch over the Master Sword? That would be pointless. Why would the word “awaken”, a word applied to existing things, be mentioned regarding the possibility of Demise? Again, this implies that, yes, his body and mind are no longer connected, but he’s still very much in fact, around. “The One/Bringer of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again…” implies that Demise can come back. These are your words. The Divine Task is a neat bit that I can accept. We see the Sheikah Shrine monks practically do the same thing in BOTW. I appreciate you sharing that.
The soul of Hylia reincarnates into a bloodline of Zeldas. Zelda does not reincarnate. Link, as far as we know, doesn’t come from any sort of lineage. While Links look physically similar, they’re just reincarnations of the same Spirit of the Hero. I agree that Malice isn’t unique to Demise or Gandondorf. But Demise is the king of demons. Ganondorf is an avatar of Demise’s hatred and resentment. Demise beget the curse of Malice upon the Blood of the Goddess (this implies a lineage, the same lineage Zeldas belong to) and the Spirit of the Hero. Ganondorf has not reincarnated ever. That’s a fact. Except maybe in Four Swords Adventures but the jury is out on that one for me. What was discussed in this video, was how his lack of reincarnation fueled the Malice pouring out of him like a pressure cooker, because Ganondorf is supposed to pass on and then come back, and he hasn’t done this in the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom.
Everyone, I am notoriously terrible at math. I meant 1% rate of decay (or .01 when viewed as a decimal)/millennia and NOT .01%. Cheers!
Also, Ganon/Ganondorf can return if he comes into contact with Link's blood (Zelda II)!
Those demon plants are like-likes bro. 😂
@@IamKiener thank you for pointing this out! I’ll need to take a closer look, but after thinking about it, that sounds right
@@wizcatcheslightning of course... great video BTW! Keep up the awesome content!
@@IamKiener thanks! I really appreciate that 🤗
I've always wanted a Zelda game where Ganondorf is freed from Demise's control and actually fights for the side of good. Perhaps this is the perfect opportunity to make that a reality. Maybe the sceam Ganondorf makes in the final trailer is not him asserting his dominance through overwhelming ressurection and control of malice, but rather a desperate shout for freedom from the malice in his body. A shout shortly followed by the emergence of the King of Demons himself from Ganondorf.
I really like that cathartic idea! Thanks for sharing 🤗
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
I’ve been thinking pretty much the same thing since the Final Trailer, Glad to know someone else thinks alike
@@sandboxsoldier864 I wish I had 60 more days to air out all of my idea xD
Ganondorf isn't controlled by Demise though.
long term zeldatube content lurker. your video was one of the best researched and put together that i’ve seen in a long time - especially at a time when the big tubers are basically putting out junk and riffing on 10 seconds of news for 10 minutes (no shame i get it). well done.
Thanks Jayde! I love talking Zelda, and I felt a need to make content in response to what I’ve been seeing from others about Zelda theories. I wonder how this video would be received if I posted it in r/ToTK 🤔 🤣
wholly agreed, just found this channel and it's by far my new favorite. and a good voice to accompany that
@@vaisli3136 I appreciate the compliments! Also thanks for watching another video I recommended. Happy to have you around, but also, feel free to poke at any holes you may see in my theories so I can stay on track for the community 😂
I second what Jayde said. 💯
@@garrettlambert714 thanks for watching another video of mine! I’m not going to bat 1,000 on content that everyone appreciates, but comments like this keep me motivated to continue making quality content regardless of people liking my ideas.
Well, Impa's case, we know due to BotW Sheikah don't usually live that much longer than other humans. Purah is the oldest Sheikah alive at the time of BotW (not counting the monks), and she's only 124. Impa, her younger sister, is around 120 and is clearly on her last legs. The fact that Impa faded away at the end of Skyward Sword similar to the monks suggests me that her life was also artificially extended.
I think that’s an excellent point to acknowledge. Impa using the word “slowly” just left so much room for my imagination 😂
You wouldn’t believe how long it took to learn Impa and Purah were sisters
Will watch this later. Thank you for another video 🙏🏻
No doubt. Thanks for the future view!
Dude you're on way to being a great one. Wish I had the ability to clip like you. You're badass bro
Thanks! Comments like that keep me going and I sincerely appreciate it 😎
Wow, what a prediction on the tree/roots. Though Link activates the light roots and repels the malice, I assumed that the tree Ganondorf is regenerating in is connected to them all and seems to be interwoven with the depths of the Hyrule Castle seal itself. Seemed like he was attempting to corrupt and take control over all of it.
There’s some sort of mythology tied to all of it, and I was trying to look into this further, but it’s proving to be difficult. My mind can’t help but draw parallels from Sekiro with the Divine Dragon who is tied to the Everblossom. Maybe I’ll find something I can convey if I look hard enough/get more creative with my searches!
Man, your thought process is UNMATCHED! I think I did about 10 "mindblows" during this video--great research, analysis and speculation. I'm going to do more in-depth research for "Jubaku," as it features prominently in a book I'm writing, but THANK YOU for introducing the term to me.
Hey well thanks for the accolades! You’ll have to thank QuestWithAaron for the etymology I researched for this specific video, definitely check out the two videos I linked in the description! He has an awesome perspective on Zelda 😎
@@wizcatcheslightning Will do. You make the wait for Tears of the Kingdom much easier to bear!
@@mrplatink that puts a smile on my face! Thanks😊
@@wizcatcheslightning You're most welcome - keep going strong!
I think another epic battle against Demise would be great. Awesome video.
I completely agree. Thanks! 😊
@@wizcatcheslightningNo worries! It’s great to hear someone so knowledgeable about the franchise speak about theories like this. I look forward to future videos you release 😊
@@WhiteWolf2874 rock n roll! Yeah Zelda Ocarina of Time was one of the earliest video games I encountered growing up. As you can probably tell, I became obsessed with the series, especially after discovering the first timeline theories 😅
And thank you. Comments like that make the effort to make this content worth it. Hope to make you proud in the future!
Now re releasing skyward sword makes sense . Forgot he was even trapped in the sword that gets broken
Yup and Fujibayashi was the director of Skyward Sword, BOTW, and TOTK.
They've kept gannondorf half alive for 10,000 years. That's why he was never allowed to reincarnate.
I like the darkness surrounding that idea. Anonuma and co did say tears of the kingdom would be darker
in the time gannon was sealed made the malace slowly become more dense concentrations of malice what would cause for it to become a differnt term to it wich its then called gloom
You don’t get a triforce piece based on how much you represent the specific attribute, but instead how much you believe in it. Ganondorf got the piece of power in OOT because that’s the attribute he believed in most, not necessarily because he was the most powerful in Hyrule.
I can jive with that idea 😎
Headcanon
Also there’s a theory that Demise’s sword later became the Kokri sword. The red gem, and the fact that the gilded sword’s design is very similar to Ghirahim. It’s most likely not true and doesn’t have a lot of evidence but it’s a nice fun little theory.
Edit was the fact that I can never remember how to exactly spell Ghirahim
Any idea where I can find a video explaining this theory?
@@wizcatcheslightning no, it’s just a thing online I’ve read a few times. You can most likely find it mentioned elsewhere online. I originally found out this theory from a random UA-cam comment on a Zelda theory video
You forget that at least a billion years have passed since skyward sword.
I addressed this issue in the video with my point made about what a Sheikah like Impa qualifies as a really long time. I also included a terrible math problem to further strengthen that argument because cosmic beings definitely perceive Time differently from humans. Demise doesn’t have the title “the Conqueror of Time” without merit 🤣
Very well put together video! There are a few times in the narration where you say "conscience" when I think you mean "consciousness", but it is otherwise flawless.
Thanks! Not sure what the complete term is, but as you can imagine, it’s hard to make annunciations in the mic. But essentially we are talking about Demise’s anima or mind.
Watching this after release is wild.. Lol bro was COOKIN
Have you seen the other vids? Because man…👀
No idea how I did it, but I can promise you that the only stuff I saw were the artbook leaks
While you present a nice argument I definitely disagree. It feels to me like Demise eventually became nothing as it decayed in the Master Sword. I can't prove that, I can only say that that is my best guess at the intent from the story writers. I always try to think about what the developers of the game are trying to convey, my opinion is that Demise was made to be the explanation of why Ganondorf and other villains' always seem to come about to challenge Link and Zelda. I know its not as fun as thinking Demise will come back, and of course I could be wrong. Regardless nice video!
Hey, at the end of the day, that’s okay that you disagree! Disagreeing furthers the conversation I want my viewers to have about the Zelda series as we all wait with baited breath (of the wild) for this dang sequel to come out 🤣
@@wizcatcheslightning yeah true, plus a lot of stuff isn’t fully set in stone or confirmed so we can all theorize and agree or disagree on the finer details that interest us.
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 exactly 😎👉👉
Demise and Gannon is one and the same... Just as Zelda is the re-incarnation of Hylia... Gannon is the re-incarnation of Demise... The scar on Denise's forehead is In the same place that Gannon's stolen tear is... And the scar on his chest is where Zonai Raru sealed Gannon for some time
Exactly 😎
I kinda felt like facing Demise instead of Ganondorf for a moment, when Ganondorf in TOTK was sealed. He was enthusiastical about facing a worthy opponent. Whereas Ganondorf reacts more frustrated on being defeated, Demise loves war and destruction in all forms. His power also seems to exceed the mere secret stones by far. In the end, however, Ganondorf pretty much reacted Ganondorf-like.
I wonder what his thoughts were after Demise was not part of TotK and there was an additional MacGuffin that came out if nowhere.. and basically gave a human Ganondorf, Demise like powers..
I still think Ganondorf channeled Demise in TOTK 😂
@@wizcatcheslightning It is definitely a mix of both, even if they didn't specifically state it. Somehow TotK feels like a mix of all things.. just like how the Lands in Dark Souls 3 all converge in one place.
I totally got those vibes as well. We’re on the same page my dude. Hope to see you again in the future.
@@wizcatcheslightning I'm here if you need me!
Bruh you got me rolling with that “ooohhh my gawd”
My meme game isn’t strong, so I appreciate that 😆
@@wizcatcheslightning well that sir is goated especially since it was so unexpected and it fit with the context so well 😂great stuff
@@Lordbritt I really love getting into the editing booth and getting creative for all of you, so again, and I genuinely mean this, thank you for that 🥹
Your welcome bro the hard work definitely shows
I think it's kinda cool how so many people from the comunity want Ganon to be "cleansed" and for him to fight alongside Link and Zelda with Demise. If he really is a corrupted piece of the trio, maybe purification would allow them to defeat Demise?
If the story plays out this way, I won’t be disappointed. It’s similar to Groose’s character redemption arc in Skyward Sword. I don’t know if it’s ever said outright, but a lot of people speculate that Groose was the descendant of the Gerudo. He has red hair and topaz colored eyes.
@@wizcatcheslightning Well, I guess we will see. Either way, Ganon's design in Totk is really cool!
Great video as always Wiz!! Cant wait for the next one and for this game to come out, lets chill in discord soon!
Thanks Brad! And yessir just lmk
Nice video. It has always been pretty strange how long everyone lives in the Zelda series.
Maybe time is different here. I mean the days in BoTW are pretty short I am sure since I woke up in the chamber it's been like 5 in-game years. So maybe somebody already did the math but 10000years could translate to 100 or so of our years. That makes more sense for their longevity
Thanks! Yeah I thought that was peculiar 🤔
but it think thats just for gameplay reasons. there are nearly no games of that size that have 24h per day
@@zakzerak7191 yeah I get that just trying to find an explanation for why they live for so many years. Just a thought
Seeing that last trailer with what looks like a figure that resembles demise and the sword being severely damaged..I believe demises evil essence escapes the sword in the underground tunnels, damaging links hand, reviving mummy Ganondorf and shooting towards the sky. We see the possessed Ganondorf in the trailer who summons the monsters but eventually demise takes over completely and somehow the human Ganondorf is able to be separated from demise and thats why we see the Ganondorf with the samurai sword and the ponytail looking normal and he zelda and link have to collect tears to fight demise
Repeat after me: Demise Tree 😎
I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie
Amazing well thought out theory.
Thank you!
oh I didn't even realize this was made before the new trailer.
Please tell the rest of the internet 😂
funnily enough the tree thing was pretty accurate
In its own strange way, yes 😅
nice job my guy
Thanks Jesterz 🤗
What if on the next Legend of Zelda that all 3 Link Zelda and Ganondorf have to stop demise since therefore only needs the seal broken and doesnt need ganondorf just a vessel
Exactly! 😎
Really great video also btw
Thanks! I wanted to publish before the weekend but I decided to take more time to bring y’all the quality 😎
Also i just started playing BOTHW too
I’m so jealous! I’ve been waiting 6 years, man 🤣
I was thinking instead of Zelda dying or having her soul absorbed she would have the triforce taken from her, only managing to keep her own shard and the tiforce of power (or maybe a temporary physical triforce with the power to wish demise back) could revive ganondorf or demise
I like where your head is at!
I know i commented alot today, my bad but dude Demise's eyes are the shape of the tears. Or at least in the clip where you compare eyes
Having someone comment more than once on several videos is not a problem AT ALL! Keep them coming. They promote the video to other people who could potentially enjoy the channel. Excellent observation! I’ll have to take a look at that when I get a chance.
So, Link brings Demise's misty remains with him to his own present timeline! But what happened to the past timeline where Demise was beaten? Did the gate of time make sure that the past and present are linked? But would that not mean that Ghirahim was gone and could not mess with Zelda? My head hurts. Messing with time is bad juju!
Ghirahim just teleported out and, like young Impa, remained and technically could still be in the present like she was
I would love seeing ganondorf just getting stabbed in the head bc its iconic and then like darkness flowws out of like a ton of darkness or malice and then the demise would rise to battle as the real final boss
That would be cool indeed 🥲
Demise also had a forehead scar from losing his central horn, where the seal spike was placed, while fighting Hylia
A pretty strong argument 🤔
Thank you!
quality content !
Thanks!
I didn’t see any scales on those roots underground
Throw the video into editing software and zoom in on it and render the image. They’re there
The more that I watch videos like this, the more I believe that we would all understand the Zelda timeline(s) better if the localization teams had done their jobs correctly.
Very true
I like what you said about swords having souls. I think there's an idea somewhere in Japanese folklore that sword makers in the creation of swords, make them in twos??
But I'm not sure, just a thought!
Hey that thought contributes to the conversation so thanks for taking the time to write it! I’ll have to look into that more!
At 1:58 on the last trailer we see link facing the mummified Ganondorf that has Malice erupting from his chest. It shows that the Master Sword has already been damaged. It also shows that the glowing blue hand is now gone. Did this hand attack Link? In previous trailers it shows malice flowing out along the ground and a blue spiral going upwards. was the hand syphoning power from Malice, much like separating clean H2O from mucky water? Was it to power the Shieka or Zonai technology?
47 days plus whatever game time we'll find out, I guess...
That’s a really good question! And I’ve seen quite a few Zeldatubers speculate that this could be the case. It’s definitely plausible, but I have a hard time shaking the idea of a Zonai magic hand powering sheikah tech. I’m not ruling it out of the realm of possibility however!
That’s a really interesting idea to ponder while we wait… it could very well be true.
I know this is wishful thinking, but i really want him to come back, just cuz his final fight was amazing
But it is also very likely for him to come back, as we see he was sealed on the sword, and the sword is broken on the new game, thus maybe releasing it
And we also see him in two states on the trailer, one with flowing fire like hair (just like demise) and we also see normal ganondorf
Exactly!
You figured out all that before the trailer?
The Devil, or in this case, Demise, is in the details 😏
Even though it would be much cooler if Demise possessed Ganondorf. I think that there is a possibility of Ganon coming back, as I think that, even though he is likely dead, his spirit is contained in the endless malice within his corpse. If this is the case, then the Ganon could possess his corpse, as Malice has been seen being able to possess dead enemies to create the cursed skull enemies. The reason I think that his spirit could be within the malice in his corpse is that Calamity Ganon, which is formed by the collection of malice overflowing from Ganon's corpse, seems to retain an imprint of Ganon's will since it retains its boar forms and the body it creates out of Sheikah tech resembles Ganondorf.
Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person aren’t they? Or maybe I’m just misremembering 😭
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 yeah but i just couldnt be bothered to say ganondorf each time
@@finley8858 yeah that makes sense then
As I recall the Zeldas that came after the first one only have the blood of the Goddess Hylia so I think if Demise comes back, consuming BoTW's Zelda soul won't get him much aside from maybe gaining the Triforce if she unknowingly has it. Unless I'm mistaken on the Hylia situation here. :P
Though could be a moot point if Hylia makes an appearance in ToTK anyways. :P
Yes, but the blood of the goddess (and the reincarnation of Hylia’s soul), as far as we know, gets passed from Zelda to Zelda. Zelda’s mother in BOTW would have had the soul of Hylia before she did, for example. Let me know what you think or I can explain further.
@@wizcatcheslightning I’m pretty sure it’s just powers passed down from Hylia. We can speak with and hear her spirit in BotW when talking to goddess statues.
@@WindMageMaster Bandit Games actually came out with a theory about that voice of the statues being Zelda’s mother (which would explain her mother’s untimely death), it’s definitely worth checking out.
Blatantly Dead Ganondorf™️
also, my guess is that Demise will be referenced but not appear directly. i can’t see them bringing him fully back. but i could be wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No idea how you made the TM superscript but I’m all about it 😎 👉👉
Also thanks 😆
Yes, it’s all theoretical (wishful) thinking. I just wanted to make a case for how Demise could return and share it with you all 🥲
@@wizcatcheslightning it was a dope video, my dude! it would be pretty cool if Demise did make a return
@@annaisntcool much appreciated! And, of course, I agree
To be fair Ganon from ocarina of time seems unkillalbe though all timelines fighting new links and zeldas
He is but the end of TP shows him losing his Triforce of Power and the Zelda Encyclopedia corroborates that he was “eliminated” in the child timeline
if .01% / millennia is the rate of demises decay, it would take 10,000 years for it to decay 1%. it would take 1,000,000 years to fully decay
You’re right. I meant .01 as in 1% instead of 1/1000th. I am notoriously bad at math and probably should have had someone look at the math before adding it in. Hopefully you didn’t find many holes in the other content presented 😆
Great ass video
Tony, my man. Thank you 😎
Demise has his essence trapped in the master sword, which we KNOW gets destroyed early on in TOTK. Maybe this is what releases demise onto the world?
It’s plausible! Thousands of years are like seconds for a cosmic being 😎
I gotta be honest, I enjoy Ganondorf about 1000x more than Demise so I hope Demise isn't in TotK.
I can respect that.
Give it up for blatantly dead Ganondorf, everybody!
😆
I believe after seeing the final trailer that Ganondorf will be seen as the main Antagonist of the game but at the very end of the game, when we see Ganondorf sort of powering up he’ll transform into Demise who I strongly believe we see near the beginning of the trailer
Rock n Roll Brandon 😎
Sorry bro but Ganondorf seems to be alive in the latest trailer. Also, I dont think he is getting redeemed
Ganondorf being alive and Demise returning are not two mutually exclusive events 😉
@@wizcatcheslightning well it kinda is in your theory
@@clonetrooper2003 to your credit, I made this video without considering specific points. But after seeing that final trailer, I expanded on my theory to include both. So that’s my bad. Check out my “Is this DEMISE?” video and you’ll see what I mean
@@wizcatcheslightning i understand, alright
WUTTT????? ... i'm out ... this dude's trippn'
See ya I guess 🤣
This video's idea his heavily flawed as it directly contradicts the game itself which shows us Demise is gone for good.
First we have Fi straight up tell us he's been destroyed, and that she's absorbed his residual consciousness.
終焉の者の消滅を確認 残留する思念をマスターソードーに吸収…封印完了しました…
I confirm the annihilation of Demise… I absorbed the residual thoughts into the Master Sword… The sealing has been completed…
~ Fi (Skyward Sword)
Then we have Impa confirm this residual consciousness will decay within the sword with her watching over it to ensure this process is completed.
そして終焉の者の思念が 剣の中で朽ち行く今・・・誰かが あの剣を見守って行かねばなりません
And now that the thoughts of the One of Demise are proceeding to decay within the blade… Someone must watch over that blade.
終焉の者が 目を覚ます事があってはならない・・・世界が 再び脅威にさらされては ならないのです・・・
The One of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again…
~ Impa (Skyward Sword)
Then finally we have her death.
Impa’s death:
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Impa swore herself to a Divine task, Sheikah can live basically forever if they are awaiting the completion of a Divine task they have been entrusted with as seen in BOTW. the only way for Impa to die would for her task to be complete. which was the complete decay of Demise.
In other words, there is ZERO chance of Demise ever returning.
Additionally.
Zelda does not reincarnate, she is a blood descendant and there evidence for link reincarnating is iffy at best, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series lore.
Malice is not unique to Demise or Ganondorf.
Malice is the power of Demons, it is their grudges and curses.
Vaati, Malladus, Twinrova, Onox, Veran, etc. etc. are all members of the demon tribe and all have malice.
Ganondorf is not some possessed man, the malice in botw is the result of his grudge being so powerful it becomes physical much like we've seen happen in games like SS where monsters (who are minor members of the demon tribe) drop malice infused crystals.
You know, it’s instances like these where I wish I understood Japanese, but I unfortunately do not.
If this is your first video of mine viewed, I suggest watching the other Zelda content before this video to better understand my perspective. Your Japanese sounds flawed, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because (unfortunately) it’s not my native language, and it is a language I don’t understand. If your Japanese is 100% correct (we have to acknowledge that translation between any two languages is never 100% because translation between two languages is always a compromise), then your interpretation/reasoning is flawed.
When you say Fi refers to Demise being annihilated, it sounds like you’re talking about Demise as a whole (Demise the being/entity) no longer existing. This can be true, while at the same time, Demise’s residual consciousness can be sealed inside of the Master Sword. So Demise the entity is gone, he no longer has form. Yet his residual consciousness is in the Master Sword. His corpus, or body, is split from his anima, his soul/mind. If Demise’s body is gone but his soul/mind remains in the Master Sword, he’s not fully annihilated (which is basically Latin for “no longer existing” or “nothing”). He wouldn’t need to be sealed within the Master Sword if he were absolutely gone.
If Demise were completely gone, why would anyone need to watch over the Master Sword? That would be pointless. Why would the word “awaken”, a word applied to existing things, be mentioned regarding the possibility of Demise? Again, this implies that, yes, his body and mind are no longer connected, but he’s still very much in fact, around. “The One/Bringer of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again…” implies that Demise can come back. These are your words.
The Divine Task is a neat bit that I can accept. We see the Sheikah Shrine monks practically do the same thing in BOTW. I appreciate you sharing that.
The soul of Hylia reincarnates into a bloodline of Zeldas. Zelda does not reincarnate. Link, as far as we know, doesn’t come from any sort of lineage. While Links look physically similar, they’re just reincarnations of the same Spirit of the Hero.
I agree that Malice isn’t unique to Demise or Gandondorf. But Demise is the king of demons. Ganondorf is an avatar of Demise’s hatred and resentment. Demise beget the curse of Malice upon the Blood of the Goddess (this implies a lineage, the same lineage Zeldas belong to) and the Spirit of the Hero. Ganondorf has not reincarnated ever. That’s a fact. Except maybe in Four Swords Adventures but the jury is out on that one for me. What was discussed in this video, was how his lack of reincarnation fueled the Malice pouring out of him like a pressure cooker, because Ganondorf is supposed to pass on and then come back, and he hasn’t done this in the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom.
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Thank you 😊
please no, Demise is lame :/ discount Ganondorf smh
Well not to be “that guy” but Ganondorf is technically a discount Demise😂