The DARK TRUTH Behind THE FINE BROS
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In this video I want to talk about the controversies that The Fine Bros have somehow recovered from with next to no damage to their general reputation and the disturbing content of theirs that is starting to resurface online.
‘Hey, It’s Milly’ Thread (Trigger Warning CSA)
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Nirne’s Timeline of Events:
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Why Blackface is so harmful:
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Kennedy’s Video:
• Why I Decided to Stand...
Jonathan Rosario-Price’s Story:
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Cherita’s Video (featured in intro):
• Fine Bros Apologize AG...
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i still find it gross that as a child i watched their content religiously
We were groomed into thinking that was acceptable behavior 🙃
Same, but the thing is you were a child. You didn't know that what you were seeing was wrong. Don't feel gross, you didn't know better. You do now, and that'd what matters.
I know how you feel. I was obsessed with Shane and the Fine Bros when I was in middle school and now I am so disgusted with myself! When Shane became under heat for his past videos, I kept thinking he wasn't that bad why is everyone freaking out. Then I rewatched all those videos that I use to find so hilarious and I can't believe I use to think that was okay.
same
It’s because the reactors were so good and fun to watch
Something about the Fine Bros is so sus but I rarely hear criticism of them outside of the "react" scandal. I'm glad you're talking about it cause the deeper you look the creepier they get. "F the Prom" was so bad and creepy but "Hey it's milly" is just straight up disturbing. Hopefully they'll disappear like Shane Dawson but I really doubted it :(
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There are some tiktoks from Eric and Tori from React and they couldn't say anything. They hinted that they could be sued for saying anything against them.
Any OGs of UA-cam are seemingly protected by the fact they're old channels. Newer accs that make edgy jokes are slammed down on by UA-cam and the public, old ones that are wealthy are protected. Dodgy af.
@@MS-xk1ne I defiantly agree. There's something weird about 30+ year olds getting away with shit but younger youtubers like James Charles and Leafy, etc get damaging hit pieces or taken out by youtube when there are OG youtube channels much worse then them.
@@MS-xk1ne I think it's because people have a "bond" with them, as they have been present in their lives providing content for so long... Many people watched them during their teenage years etc, so they kind of have that emotional memories of it. Newer UA-camrs haven't been around long enough (as in like, a decade) for most people to have that connection. Also people love acting as if everything new is shit and only older things are worthy (because of the emotional bond they remember things better than they were), so there is also that - "all these new UA-camrs are shit, only OG UA-camrs are worthy of fame!!!" ~ crazy, old fans
The fact that people of color eating their own feaces being a recurring joke with Shane is so disturbing
the fact that I didn’t notice how messed up it was and laughed along as a kid is also disturbing
@Claudia Gomes ok Claudia gnomes, we won’t ❤️
Claudia Gomes who still watches family guy? The show stopped being good after like three seasons.
@@rhodopisdenile8977 yikes
@@rhodopisdenile8977 that show was neever good
It's kinda a given that anyone who would collab with Shane Dawson would be questionable
Jenna Marbles, Jacksfilms, Smosh ... kinda a given that OG UA-camrs collabed with each other
there goes all of old yt
@@cheesetoasty5139 Jenna was the only genuinely good one.
@Claudia Gomes i’m sorry but do you expect children and tweens to come up with well formulated critiques of the content they consume? because shane dawson’s and the fine bros’ fan bases were pretty much just children
also people did criticise these people, and they’d get viciously attacked.
@Claudia Gomes the difference between jenna marbles and shane dawson is that there we could see her growth, and her apology was sincere and pretty much addressed everything. shane dawson never addressed the bulk of the criticisms brought against him, only picking the more tame ones.
he never addressed kissing underage fans on the mouth, asking them for fairly sexual content on daily booth, the fact that he pretended to masturbate to a poster of an 11 year old willow smith, and the list goes on.
plus, some of the things he was criticised for were as recent as 2017, so don’t act like it’s a far off thing.
uncle my childhood was ✨poisoned✨ by shanes degrassi spoofs
Glad I’m not the only person out here 🎉
Mine too. It makes me so sad because I used to love shane and used to love degrassi. But I was too young to understand what he was doing was wrong
ok
@@halapenoxd1635 same. i remember being so confused by the fact he was doing black face and just thinking "oh maybe it's not that bad if shane and the fine bros are doing it?" but honestly i was just really hurt and disappointed that the people who i looked up to on the internet were racists
same, i feel more for brittani louise now.
That Millie show is disgusting and nearly downright criminal. "2010 was a different time" doesn't work as an excuse for me, it wasn't that different. Disgusting then, disgusting now.
Ikr and it doesn’t mean it was right just because it was a different time
And the fact that they were working with children after taking part of the Millie show is even more disturbing!
I watch You Tube, but I am 37. Yes, I was still old in Shane and the Fine Bros "gross out humor" hey day. I recognized entirely that it wasn't edgy humor, because it was never clever or funny, and was clearly aimed at a young audience. I couldn't understand how they were getting away with it, and I didn't really watch them, this was just from clips, etc. I watched Shane maybe once a year, and was left thinking, how is this happening? I think the issue is that children watched them, and defended them, and now those children are young adults, and they realise how bad it was.
At the time, what should have been assessed by adults from You Tube, never was.
2010 was TEN YEARS AGO TOO
I get what people are saying though, it was a “different” time in the sense that nobody spoke up about it, there wasn’t a lot of information on WHY it was wrong and us as children who watched it really didn’t understand? (Just saying not trying to like argue or anything)
They were nerds in high school who couldn’t even make nerd friends and it shows
They were actually homeschooled.
I know, I’m not surprised either.
Nah nerds are cool
@@SilentTrip no one said they’re not?
Isn't that the kind of "mean bullying" remark you're whining about them doing?
@@SilentTrip nerds definitely are cool. But these nerds aren’t.
The fact that she was getting death threats for speaking about her experience as a black person is ridiculous
exactly, ridiculous and wayy too common. truly disgusting
But not surprising
@@kostajovanovic3711 sadly, its true😞
It baffles me that things like that happen yet ignorant people wanna claim that racism isn't a problem anymore 🙄
Its wild how many people will be like "black people are overreacting racism isnt that bad" but then use that as an excuse to send hate. It's like they think racism doesnt exist as long as they're the ones being racist.
I've seen this to trans creators too. They claim there is no transphobia while doxxing them for being trans and it's like???
That is so disturbing to hear that they didn't help Kennedy even after she tried to explain that somebody had her address. They should have put more effort into helping her out especially being an employee.
Good morning uncle
Good morning
@@uncleherman what are your thoughts on rewind 2020 being canceled
@@VictorManuel-ri4bm Great question! I might just have a video coming up on that exact topic ;))
@@uncleherman 👀👀👀
@@uncleherman are youu johnKuckian??
given the current situation with lia marie johnson and how she got famous through the fine bros, it’s really concerning what goes on behind the scenes
What happened with Lia I am sorry all of this is very new to me I never watched them
@@kennyb1588 i believe she started doing drugs or something and ruined her career :/ if you'd like, there's videos on UA-cam explaining what happened
I was about to comment on that. That poor girl is in a terrible place. She grew up around screens and broadcasts her life because it's all she knows - even when she's drunk or under the influence. Questionable people have made a guest star in her lifestreams and that rightfully caused her fans to try to reach out to her, but it falls on deaf ears. I don't think Lia understand she's being taken advantage by these sketchy people.
@@kennyb1588 There's a really detailed video by j aubrey called "The troubling case of Lia Marie Johnson" that explains who she is etc x
Have they done anything publicly to try and reach out/support her? It was basically the fine bros who started her career, when she was VERY young
Things aren't so fine then
I've always wondered about their involvement with Lia Marie Johnson. She was a huge reoccurring person on their show (she was even on kids react). Somehow we've completely forgotten about her and that scandal where she seemed very disoriented and her older producer was kissing her in a livestream. Sources say he's been her producer since she was 12!! Is it a coincidence that she was involved with several older men that are rumored of inappropriate behavior with young people?
She is probably messed up because of that creepy producer, Shane, and The Fine Bros
yes, it is probably a coincidence. lol.
There was a youtube short recently released interviewing two boys from kids/teens react. They revealed Lia Marie is in her "crack head stage" and lives in a trap house. It's pretty sad to hear.
@@xyerim5356 Yes exactly that's why I'm here.
@@xyerim5356 I’m assuming that was old cuz it seems she got better about 2 years ago
Imagine being aunt hermanna...having the world's biggest alpha as a husband.... one can only dream ❤️
it’s my goal 😌
i’ll never forget when they tried to copyright or trademark the word ‘React’. literal insanity 😭
I use to LOVE heyitsmillie when I was like 10. I remember laughing at all these clips. It’s so sick that’s what was being marketed to me as a child
Same :( I loved Shane so much & copied his humor, I wish I could go back on it
@@st-xj7bx Honestly I believe know that you know and can clearly acknowledge that is was wrong, you’ve grown. In my opinion being fed this garbage from a young age makes it hard to know that it’s wrong. I am proud of you for growing.
@@st-xj7bx Hey it's fine aaaa you were a kid (I'm assuming) and as long as you know better now it's okay aaa all we can do is learn and grow, try not to expect perfection from yourself (especially if you were a kid)
I mean who cares you still liked it. 2010 was a different time, if you’re gonna blame them for having it marketed to you then go sue commercials that market cleaning products, because even those are more harmful to children then something they will forget about after like 2 months.
@@gatbeatbox8656 How do I explain that cleaning commercials and pedophilia are not, in any way the same problem.
i only knew finebros from their react videos & the react scandal. i never knew they made skits with shane dawson or their business practices, so i’m glad you’re putting all their scandals in one digestible video! thank you alpha uncle
I ain’t ever seen two alive white boys..... one of them always gotta look like a robot
I can never escape 😔✋
Kate Jewell yes!!! if I see another joke like that again I will commit war crimes against Alaska 😠
@@localdummy9066 why Alaska
DBDHDHDHDH YOURE NOT WRONG
Un Original because *the thing*
I watched Millie and Shane Dawson when I was a kid, and I didn’t understand any of it… But watching those clips now makes me sick knowing that I was a child consuming that content.
Millie's like the female SML
"They wanted to benefit from the "diversity" but not benefit diversity." Disney in a nutshell.
i've noticed uncle herman's voice is getting deeper. is our alpha male.. becoming an alpha man? 😳
Alpha² man
I think its that black girl creator with a tea Chanel i think forgot her face
I think shes using a voice changer
@@santilmunine3936 you mean Paige?
@@santilmunine3936 sounds nothing like paige to me
@@santilmunine3936 petty paige has different speech patterns IMO.
The virgin fine bros v the Chad alpha male uncle Herman
i’m glad that i never got into them when i was younger because holy hell...
phew
@@biguattipoptropica yeah it feels sooo fake I can hardly stand to watch it
Riiiiiight?
I sorta did but it was only the try not to laugh videos
The fact that I did 😭
it's so crazy that they've always been so problematic. i quit watching them a while back, but we recently used one of their elders react videos in one of my education classes, now I feel obligated to let my prof know oop
i know right! i find them cringe now-
Do it. If ur lucky you’ll get extra points on ur assignment
Good lord I remember the react copyright controversy so vividly; that was the first YT drama I witnessed. And it was wild.
Also Jesus CHRIST the Milly stuff and the discrimination issues are absolutely *disgusting.* How the hell they’ve gotten away with this is beyond me. I hope the victims of FBE’s maltreatment are doing better now and are okay.
Imagine if Alfa male replied..I would no longer feel like a Bata male
I now pronounce you an alpha ;)
I have never felt more honoured in my life! 😨
@@uncleherman Is there a reason why you censor yourself saying words such as racist and blackface?
@@derp8575 it keeps the video from being suppressed by the algorithm
my bf doesn’t watch your videos with me but he loves hearing your “hey it’s me your uncle herman and i’m still an alpha male” intro so much
Okay that Milly clip where she tried to convince children that them being excluded from sex is the same as "segregation" is fucking terrifying.... Why would they put that concept in kids' heads?
This is really minor but when pronouncing POC you usually spell out the acronym rather than pronounce it as a word. Love you as always Uncle!
Thanks for this, I’d only seen it written down 🤦🏼
Also, Latinx should be latine. Cause Spanish speakers hate that (not all of us, but a good chunk of us do)
@@roxassora2706 it doesn't roll of the tongue in spanish either, i'm argentinian btw and it sounds kinda silly
as a poc i pronounce it as a word, i’ve never heard anyone spell it out. and it honestly doesn’t matter lol
@@Sepúlveda_Boulevard Yes.
i really appreciate that you bleep out words in a non-obnoxious manner. thank you tío herman
The only reason they’re successful is because of their awful reaction videos.
i only watch their esc ones nowdays
Er uh
Even back in 2010 - 2012, the reason they got so big is the algorithm loved their videos. They were advertiser-friendly, they featured KIDS, TEENS and OLD age groups (notice the missing of young adult / middle-aged demographics).
Then they also blew up, due to featuring UA-camrs. Their fans boosted them to top of trending/homepage always.
Just look at their current views. They barely break 1mil views even though they have 20mil+ subscribers.
I only watch the ones with the children because they are a bit “funnier.” And I just love children in general.
(I’m 15, technically a child too but I just think younger kids have funnier reactions and they are pretty smart when it comes to opinion giving.)
I thought those were the only kind of videos they had-
please make a video on the johnny depp and amber heard situation, i’d love to hear you talk about it
Oh God....the trauma of the ass burgers... I'd just managed to erase that and Hey Millie from my mind.
I've read that comment before getting to the "Hey Millie" section and I almost don't even want to know
Talia Jung m
wait so the fine bros arent even a part of the channel anymore ? lmaoo did they leave recently ? dang so they have 20 mill subs but only get 100k in views. that channel has fallen off
On Wikipedia it says they left "in Summer 2020"
OHHHHHH I been waiting for this one TURN IT UP
YESSS I HAVE BEEN WATING!!👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌
Uncle Herm I've missed you already 🙏🏻 thanks for being my therapeutic father figure
I am not first.
I am not last
But when I saw my uncle herman
I clicked damn fast
Never been more happy I did not get that call back from FBE asking if I could audition as a 8 year old girl. Thank you for making another amazing video Uncle!
They're going to pull an Ellen, aren't they?
I was gonna make a "either you die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villan" joke, but turns out, FBE was a villan from the start...
I watched "Heyitsmilly" when I was in middle school... thank you for addressing it, as I don't think enough people are talking about it.
I’m relived to hear that uncle Herman is still an Alfa male
All I know is their show HeyItsMillie was something else 😎‼️ thank you for supplying us, alpha male 💖
That's absolutely disgusting
@@polina4331 I was being sarcastic, in no way do I support the Fine Bros or Shane Dawson 😔
just a tip for the future, if you're going to add a trigger warning to something it's best to specify what you're warning people about. Triggers can be very specific, so just adding "trigger warning" without specifying is a bit useless since people don't know which particular trigger you're warning them for. I know youtube will demonitize for the word p*dophelia but you could get around that by saying "innapropriate behaviour w minors" for example. This can help people really decide if they should continue watching the video or not.
Ben and Ravi were NEVER funny. They tried everything to be famous but the only thing that worked was basically making actually funny people make their videos for them
I used to be obsessed with HeyItsMilly as a kid. It's probably the reason I was so vulgar and messed up back then.
last time i was this early uncle herman wasn't an alpha male
The fine bros aren't so fine after all
our no.1 alpha male is back at it again
But on a more serious note, thank you for covering this topic as this information really needs to be heard and shared. Really good vid today
OMG THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME, I USED TO WATCH THIS LIKE EVERYDAY. UGH, IT'S ALWAYS THE PPL I USED TO LIKE
This video and watching it from my phone while I go get ready to go to sleep is the only thing that got me out of bed today. Thanks for uploading
Why do you seek things that get you out of bed while you are getting ready to go to sleep?
Don't you sleep in your bed?
Why do you lay in bed wanting to go somewhere else that isn't your bed, while you're sleepy?
Where do you go?
Plz inform, am concerned
Nevermind I think I figured it out!!
Toddler ft. Exhausted Mother
I didn't realize hey millie was their fault ... Uncle Herman why does god allow this to happen
I’m genuinely shocked and hurt to find out that this is who the Fine Bros really are. I’ve been subscribed to their channel for a decade and enjoyed all their content. However, I stand by these people speaking out. Shame....
I was there in 2010. It was disturbing back then. In middle school, it was a disgusting and was the kind of thing people would show you because they knew it would make you uncomfortable
someone is FINALLY talking about this
I’ve only watched their react series, I’m glad I didn’t encounter their other content.
Same here. I’m ashamed of my younger self for being a fan.
When the heat death of the universe occurs, and all the stars burn out, Uncle Herman will still be an alpha male.
And the Best Uncle Award goes to Uncle Herman! 🏆🏆🏆
I forget about HeyIt'sMillie until recently with all the Shane Dawson drama. And holy shit dude. I watched that show all the time in middle school, and everything flew over my head. I had no idea what I was watching was so gross and wrong. There's no way watching stuff like Millie and Shane didn't mess with my perceptions of the world as a kid.
It was good to see those who have worked with the Fine Bros/FBE [react, crew, cast etc] speaking out. I wonder if the signs were there for some time. I found a video many months ago from William [who used to be on Kids React, and has a UA-cam channel of his own called SuperSherman or something], who finally revealed why he left React. Because of the bad contract, which also included FBE being more 'in control' of his channel, reducing his own creative freedom. Like, why? Many of the React cast also have their own UA-cams and social medias and have left, including Kennedy. React World was bad enough, and what happened around the time Kennedy said she left, not to mention uncovering the Milly stuff and more means that I'm even more done with them, if that's even possible.
Good video as well.
wow as someone who used to watch their react vids, its crazy to know about this and their past. thanks for educating the people uncle💖
i used to love these guys back in 2014-
there was always something up about them and i cant believe it took us so long
Holy shit that last note by Nirne, that music made for their show that sexualized kids was repurposed for kids react, is WILD to me.
Feels weird being so engrossed in a channel that isnt in the 1 mil limelight. Year from now wont be surprised if you sky rocket into 2 or 3 mil subs
Thank God I only mostly watched Teen's React, Kid's React, and Adult's React. I never even heard of the Millie thing......
idk just looking at them you can tell somethings off.
I can always rely on Uncle Herman for clear eyes, skin, and nails
I’m so glad u made this video, I was disappointed people only called out Shande Dawson. I think people focused on him because he was a popular personality and people felt betrayed by him. But thefinebros are still around kids and have the most potential to do more harm! They need to be deplatformed and away from those kids
THANK YOU UNCLE HERMAN!
Exposing these sick sick people.
You’re truly a real alpha man.
Most of the iconic reactors: leaves
Rafi : 👁️ 👄👁️
I feel like I haven't heard a lot of people talking about this, so thank you for making this video.
The animation of psychicpebbles on the finebros is legendary, it's not a parody, it's what they are.
I’m horrified that children watched Millie. That really has undertones of child grooming. Not okay...
Can you make merch that says “I love my uncle herman” in the same layout as your current merch. That would be a pretty funny shirt that people would be confused by and cause people to look up who uncle Herman is and probably run into you!
Literally all I used to watch was them when I was like 11, it’s really sad to see your childhood favorites go down like this :/
Their is a difference between edgy / dark humor and being rude.
Even for 2010 the puppet shit was tasteless af. That wasn’t even remotely close to dark humor, no matter what subjective take you have on comedy that doesn’t make it right.
This sucks, I use to as a kid watch fbe RELIGIOUSLY. I find it gross that they did all this stuff and will no longer be supporting them at all.
I remember when I was just getting into youtube, I would always watch their videos. I even dreamed of joining the react series 🤢🤢🤢
Personally I would not be angry or feel sorry for The Fine Bros if they got canceled.
YESSS HYPE !!! YOU GO UNCLE
Thank you for this, people tend to forget, Hey Millie wasn't just Shane Dawson.
Funny thing is I haven't heard a peep from fbe for like year even the algorithm forgot about them
i used to love kids react and elders react, and then a while back i started seeing people saying the fine bros were bad but as i had stopped watching their videos at that point i didn't investigate. but hoooly shit it's so bad, yikes. the racism alone is disgusting.
When McDonald’s broadcasts “real life people” tasting a new burger in their commercials the fine bros are going to sue them right? Because they invented reaction content....... right?
Hey Unky Herm, great video as always! For future reference, when providing a trigger warning, it would be great if you could also provide a quick description of what the trigger is. Like for the Hey It's Milly section you could have something like "trigger warning: simulated csa".
Have a good one :)
the way i'm this early to a video.. maybe im a fan now
ugh the fact that I loved Millie and those degrassi parodies that Shane made is so shameful. I was too young to see how messed up it all was and since all the adults were laughing like it was okay, I thought it was okay too.
I remember watching the Fine Bros movie on Netflix and then having to wash my eyes out
FBE is doing a "Bon Appetit" moment on youtube, basically the channel destroying itself because of a "sorry i got caught" style of apologizing
Thank god someone is finally talking about it. From Milly to Kids React? Disgusting 🤮
Why are you beeping out the word black? Jesus christ has the whole gotten so bad that you can't say a color?
Ah! So glad you featured Cherita! ♡ She's a great commentary youtuber who needs more love♡
I remember being in middle school when hey it’s milly came out and being very disturbed by it. Now I’m 23 and I fully understand how disturbing it is.
I was one of the kids who didn’t like Shane Dawson BECAUSE he was inappropriate and racist, and being lightly bullied because I didn’t like him.
I gave him another chance in 2018 because I thought maybe he changed (from the difference I saw in his content) and my then roommate watched his vlogs all the time, but I’m glad that people are cracking down on him and all the disgusting enablers/abusers who were affiliated with him.
Same.. I remember thinking "I can't believe people watch this".
People say "it was a different time" but my theory is that a lot of kids were on the internet back then watching this sort of thing, and kids like us just chose to watch something else. Now, those kids have grown up, and youtube/ the internet has a much bigger audience, of all ages! Watching youtube isn't just something "the youth" do anymore lol. So now, more eyes are watching and are able to speak up when something isn't right.
@@LifefulLife honestly, yeah, I think its cause his fans were mostly kids and kids are easily influenced. Kids kind of just follow, and when someone sticks out they point and laugh.
Hey Uncle! I just wanted to ask how your day is? I assume being an alpha male is quite stressful.
Live For Your Videos! Thank You Again Uncle Herman! ⭐️❤️⭐️❤️
I’m so happy that I stuck in a little bubble of Jenna Marbles as a child.
TL:DR - The fine Bros are horrid, cry along with their dying channel because of how they’re horrible people. Not because of something they did 10 years ago, but because they’re horrible people in the present.
Something that was made 10 years ago Is stupid to hate on someone for making…. But if there is something that’s constantly happening in house at the Fine Bros, Like discrimination, then that’s the problem you should focus on.
Not something from 10 years ago, something that was a stupid trend on UA-cam, and that people of that culture were fine with. Hell there are some youtubers who are still around from that time, that recognize how bad that time in UA-cam was, and even apologized because if that time. The majority of them “Grew up” because that’s what happens when you go through life. I’d bet tons of them have either hidden what they’ve made because they’re ashamed of their creation, or have responded to the criticism against said horrid video they did 10 or so years ago, and made amends.
Focus on that, bigotry, not decades of old drama.
Also I am not some “Fine Bros” or “Shane Dawson” shill. I never watched Shane, and actually hated him. And I stopped watching the Fine Bros after their react videos started becoming less interesting, and started to dwindle…. And that was only a few years after seeing their “react to Dan and Phil” video, which got me watching those two more than them. I’m more responding to how stupid people can be. Old stuff is old, focus on the new, continuing things, like if they’re *constantly* racist, or discriminatory.
the clip of him eating the poop burger thing in blackface is EVEN WORSE when you realize his character is making fun of a degrassi character that has Aspergers (but they call it Ass Burgers in the video......)