I believe Canon made a big mistake with the C200/B: meaning they shouldn’t have given us such an amazing camera (12bit RAW) for such an affordable price. Lucky us! And thanks to YOU for helping us unlock its magical powers! 🏆
I attended your C 200 class in New York. After that class I became a great operator of this camera. I think people just aren’t taking the time out to actually learn their equipment. They are chasing new shiny objects on the market. But they don’t understand, that if they don’t learn how to work their new shiny object, they will sell that camera to and buy another one. This process goes on and on and on. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the feedback! I couldn't agree more. There are amazing films out there shot with DSLRs because people learned their camera and they understand how to use it. Everyone wants more gear but the real work is understanding what you have.
Hi Rubidium, thanks for another great video on the C200. I picked ups this camera on sale, and your take on the camera was possibly the biggest reason why. I looked ate the BMPCC 6K, Canon R5, C100mii, C300mii, and the C200. Im really pleased with the choice. Once I made up my mind to get on with working with the RAW codec and set aside all the nonsense about .... well all the stuff we see out there, it validated my decision 100%. I also believe that storage and processing tech is expanding at such a rapid rate that all the current issues will be a distant memory a year or two from now. Please keep on posting on the camera. Your tut is on my radar! Thanks again - from South Africa.
Thanks for posting this! We got our c200 in April 2019 after learning about your channel, C200 workflow, and high praise of it. Glad to see you still defending it after getting the C300 Markiii!
Crimson Engine Many 1-2 min “quick cuts” artist videos for web (which this camera is perfect for, with short bursts of raw shooting) but also some documentary work, which I hate using raw for long interviews but the footage is so nice looking I go with it. Using the solid pod and bought many solid pod readers + 1tb ssd’s to be able bring hours worth of raw storage into the field 🤘
I bought a used C200 in September 2020, and I'm very happy with the decision. Although I'm still learning the camera (especially mitigating the noise in lower light situations), I plan on keeping the C200 for a long time.
Thanks Rubidium! I just bought a used C200 a few weeks ago. You’re absolutely right about the raw. I was a little intimidated to work with it at first because of the file sizes, but I’m starting to get in a rhythm with the workflow. I’ve been using the Canon cinema raw development program to process the files, and it’s been working great!
Shhhhhhhhhhh. Let them sell their C200. I'm ready to grab a second one :) This is such an amazing camera and I feel it's still future proof with the RAW.
Great video Rubidium. I chose the C200 recently over the upcoming C70. The form factor for serious production and the raw capabilities still make this a great camera in my opinion.
I can relate to this. We would be seriously thinking of selling our new C200's because they don't seem to be an upgrade from the C100 if you'r not really going for raw. We are left with recording internally on sd-card or on an external recorder (Blackmagic video assist 12G), but both of those methods have such different results In DR. We hoped to be able to have 422 external recording, that looks close to the C100 canon log, and is gradable. Not RAW, but still less compressed then the C100 to start with. But after spending some time checking gamma an color matrix options, the C100 internal sd-card recordings actually always win. We hope to get over this issue, because reselling these will be pity. On the other hand, owning 2 C200's and preferring our older C100's maybe feels worse for the investment we've made.
I did not realize the clog2 stop difference! I’ve been shooting w this since it came out, mainly on clog3 for long form interviews and totally love it.
Crimson Engine always xfavc. Occasionally in raw if doing greenscreen. Here a question then, mp4 vs xfavc. Benefits to both or one better than the other?
Two things I noticed that might be interesting to you. First of all, when I shoot a clip in RAW, when I'm looking at the screen I get one read out of the waveform exposure, but when I play it back, it is 20 points higher. I guess because of how the playback reads the clip. Point number two, which is the most frustrating, once I upgraded the firmware if I choose "face only" focus and I'm filming in the forest, if I turn my head the camera loses focus every time. Something they did with upgrading the firmware messed with the autofocus adjustment for some reason.
The first one is the difference between clog3 and clog2. C200 can't display clog2 for some weird reason, but you shoot it non the less. For the second, try reducing the auto focus response to -5. It will wait a long time before looking for a new focus point.
Another fantastic video. At the end of day, is it best to shoot RAW in Clog or Clog3? If I use Clog3, leave my Gamma basis in Premiere Pro at Clog2 (Clog), that seems to be the best. Which begs the question; then why am I shooting in Clog3 at all? Help us Obi Wan. From what I am hearing on this video, Clog3 is simply a DISPLAY setting, not whats actually going down on the card in RAW, which is Clog2 (indicated as simply Clog on the C200, there is no Clog2 option in RAW).
I am also only shooting RAW with my C200, cause I didn't like the XFAVC in terms of sharpness and overall look. But I really like how the C200 looks in RAW. For long term interviews up to 2 hours or longer, I unfortunately need to use the XFAVC and everytime I am really disappointed when editing. That's why I am planning to upgrade to the C300 Mark III (and because of the cleaner shadows and the therefore much faster editing time).
Could you please help me regarding the C200? I’ve been trying now for two hours to figure out how on earth to set an assignable button to switch to a certain setting such as 50 fps in slow motion mode while being in 25 fps base. This dosen’t seen to be possible, or am I missing something basic here? Every time I’m in 4K mode and press the assignable button to go to slow motion it goes to 100 fps and lowers the resolution to 1080p. Why can’t I tell the camera to only go to 50 fps in slow motion mode since that is the limit in 4K?
@@Crimsonengine Thanks for taking your time to reply! Yes I would do that but i can’t seem to assign it to a user button, or am I missing something? Going via the menu each time isn’t going to work as it takes to long. This won’t be an issue on my C400, as it has dedicated buttons for that, right? Just found your channel, awesome content!😊
Bought the C200 in December 2019 at an incredible price and then came the Pandemic, I live in Panama and we were in lockdown for about 7 complete months so I did not use the camera very much. Today I got my hands on a solidpod Lite with a 1TB M.2 drive that gives me 133 minutes of RAW. Are there any special setup that I should use to maximize my pleasure at shooting Raw with my C200 ? I also got a 7" screen with False color (only HDMI In/Out) but It will do for now I guess. Any help would be appreciated.
Great video man. I'm new in this channel but just realised that I've been watching your videos for quite awhile now and hey, it was time to subscribe, lol... I've been looking into cinema cameras and as I use Canon (EOS R), I would prefer to continue with this brand as it offers good color etc... The C 200 is a candidate, but now there is the new C70 coming out! What are your thoughts about it? Thanks man
Always Love your c200 tips ❤️ i am shooting a music video in a Club/disco environment this friday. So, Crazy Flashs lighting. What ISO do you think is best filming 10Bit raw with sigma art 1.8 lens? And how to avoid unwanted LED flickering?
Thanks for this, you've given my c200 extra life several times over already. One thing I've found that there's a huge difference in how AF performs on the c200 even when using native L glass -- e.g., the 85 1.4 is lovely and gives you speed AND response options, whereas the 50mm 1.2 & 24 1.4 only give you speed (response is greyed out.) Sadly, the Sigma 18-35, while allowing both speed and response settings is, (apart from being ridiculously loud) the spottiest AF lens I have as far as recognizing a face -- have you found this to be the case?
Thanks Sailor! Individual lenses vary, but this has been my experience too. I think the reason the L-series Zooms are so expensive is that they're quieter. The sigma Art primes are pretty good.
I love my C200, but I’m in the market for a second Canon camera. Having a hard time deciding between another C200 (maybe B version. I think it’s an amazing value these days) C70, or going for the C300MIII . Going through the pros & cons in my head . Now that you have the MIII , how does the image from the new dgo sensor compare to the C200 raw?
Like a Man on Fire That dgo sensor is sweet! Would love to see a real world shoot-out between the two . Not a torture test or anything like that. Just a real world side-by-side comparison . Both shooting raw.
I believe that the image on the Canon C70 is more detailed and sharp with 10-bit shooting, due to the RF bayonet, as well as due to it, you have the opportunity to get a sharp and detailed image at fully open apertures, such as 1.2 by 50 mm., which EF will not give. But the C70 doesn't have RAW yet, so With the 300 iii with its DGO, or wait until and if they "deliver" RAW to the C70.
For everything I’ve heard, 10 bit 4K isn’t possible on the hardware of the c200. They chose to enable raw instead. The c70 is their answer to people’s demands.
@@Crimsonengine Thanks for responding - reading my comment again now I feel it was a little impulsive ... kinda just continuing to hope that Canon will give us 4K 10bit external in a firmware update some time. Here in South Africa with the poor exchange rate to the dollar the camera is a big investment. I guess that my frustration is that the C200 really stretched the budget, no space for a C70. But when I focus on your valid suggestion that I embrace the RAW there really is no reason to be complaining! I still feel stoked that I opted for the C200 when I made my choice. Thanks for your content, It's really motivated and helped me to get into using the RAW capabilities.
@@Crimsonengine am little bit confused between the A7siii vs c200...it's a compact body with killer video features....but without in-built nd and XLR input..can u give some opinion on this?
I believe Canon made a big mistake with the C200/B: meaning they shouldn’t have given us such an amazing camera (12bit RAW) for such an affordable price. Lucky us! And thanks to YOU for helping us unlock its magical powers! 🏆
I attended your C 200 class in New York. After that class I became a great operator of this camera. I think people just aren’t taking the time out to actually learn their equipment. They are chasing new shiny objects on the market. But they don’t understand, that if they don’t learn how to work their new shiny object, they will sell that camera to and buy another one. This process goes on and on and on. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the feedback! I couldn't agree more. There are amazing films out there shot with DSLRs because people learned their camera and they understand how to use it. Everyone wants more gear but the real work is understanding what you have.
Hi Rubidium, thanks for another great video on the C200.
I picked ups this camera on sale, and your take on the camera was possibly the biggest reason why. I looked ate the BMPCC 6K, Canon R5, C100mii, C300mii, and the C200. Im really pleased with the choice. Once I made up my mind to get on with working with the RAW codec and set aside all the nonsense about .... well all the stuff we see out there, it validated my decision 100%.
I also believe that storage and processing tech is expanding at such a rapid rate that all the current issues will be a distant memory a year or two from now.
Please keep on posting on the camera. Your tut is on my radar!
Thanks again - from South Africa.
Thanks for posting this! We got our c200 in April 2019 after learning about your channel, C200 workflow, and high praise of it. Glad to see you still defending it after getting the C300 Markiii!
Great to hear! What kind of content are you shooting with it?
Crimson Engine Many 1-2 min “quick cuts” artist videos for web (which this camera is perfect for, with short bursts of raw shooting) but also some documentary work, which I hate using raw for long interviews but the footage is so nice looking I go with it. Using the solid pod and bought many solid pod readers + 1tb ssd’s to be able bring hours worth of raw storage into the field 🤘
Still very happy with my C200. Looking at the C70 as a gimbal/B cam.
I bought a used C200 in September 2020, and I'm very happy with the decision. Although I'm still learning the camera (especially mitigating the noise in lower light situations), I plan on keeping the C200 for a long time.
Great stuff Rubidium! Thanks for sharing. Totally agree, the C200 has an amazing image while shooting in raw.
Damn. I’m strong on Resolve but I have Never sharpened our c200 footage. Wow. There is soooo much there. Clean and just better. Thanks.
Thanks Rubidium! I just bought a used C200 a few weeks ago. You’re absolutely right about the raw. I was a little intimidated to work with it at first because of the file sizes, but I’m starting to get in a rhythm with the workflow. I’ve been using the Canon cinema raw development program to process the files, and it’s been working great!
What do you been recording the Craw light files to? I heard cast cards are expensive.
@@nicholasolivas317 a solid pod 1 terabyte ssd
Best C200/B expert in the world! Thank you Rubidium! You rock man! 🏆
Cheers Ben! Everyone wants the latest and the greatest, but better using what they have is going to make a big difference
Crimson Engine Absolutely agreed. You are the C200/B Yoda we all need! 🥇
Shhhhhhhhhhh. Let them sell their C200. I'm ready to grab a second one :) This is such an amazing camera and I feel it's still future proof with the RAW.
Great video Rubidium. I chose the C200 recently over the upcoming C70. The form factor for serious production and the raw capabilities still make this a great camera in my opinion.
Watching your channel makes me wanna buy the c200 instead of c70 :D :D
Thanks Tomislav! Price vs quality I think its one of the best deals around
I can relate to this. We would be seriously thinking of selling our new C200's because they don't seem to be an upgrade from the C100 if you'r not really going for raw. We are left with recording internally on sd-card or on an external recorder (Blackmagic video assist 12G), but both of those methods have such different results In DR. We hoped to be able to have 422 external recording, that looks close to the C100 canon log, and is gradable. Not RAW, but still less compressed then the C100 to start with. But after spending some time checking gamma an color matrix options, the C100 internal sd-card recordings actually always win. We hope to get over this issue, because reselling these will be pity. On the other hand, owning 2 C200's and preferring our older C100's maybe feels worse for the investment we've made.
I did not realize the clog2 stop difference! I’ve been shooting w this since it came out, mainly on clog3 for long form interviews and totally love it.
Awesome. If you're shooting mp4, the clog3 is going to be a lot cleaner.
Crimson Engine always xfavc. Occasionally in raw if doing greenscreen. Here a question then, mp4 vs xfavc. Benefits to both or one better than the other?
Thanks, best regards dein Hamburg Germany
Two things I noticed that might be interesting to you. First of all, when I shoot a clip in RAW, when I'm looking at the screen I get one read out of the waveform exposure, but when I play it back, it is 20 points higher. I guess because of how the playback reads the clip. Point number two, which is the most frustrating, once I upgraded the firmware if I choose "face only" focus and I'm filming in the forest, if I turn my head the camera loses focus every time. Something they did with upgrading the firmware messed with the autofocus adjustment for some reason.
The first one is the difference between clog3 and clog2. C200 can't display clog2 for some weird reason, but you shoot it non the less. For the second, try reducing the auto focus response to -5. It will wait a long time before looking for a new focus point.
Another fantastic video. At the end of day, is it best to shoot RAW in Clog or Clog3? If I use Clog3, leave my Gamma basis in Premiere Pro at Clog2 (Clog), that seems to be the best. Which begs the question; then why am I shooting in Clog3 at all? Help us Obi Wan. From what I am hearing on this video, Clog3 is simply a DISPLAY setting, not whats actually going down on the card in RAW, which is Clog2 (indicated as simply Clog on the C200, there is no Clog2 option in RAW).
Wow nice tips about transcoding to 2K, I try this today and the footage are clean and easy to work with.. I think I don’t need the c70 now Thanks!!
No problem 👍 Now that everyone is selling their c200s you could pick one up cheap :)
More tips please! The c200 and c300 group makes me feel like i have to sell my c200 because of the c70 😂
Loving your new studio mate!
Good tips, thanks. What would you recommend for sharpening the raw files in Premiere? Cheers.
I am also only shooting RAW with my C200, cause I didn't like the XFAVC in terms of sharpness and overall look. But I really like how the C200 looks in RAW. For long term interviews up to 2 hours or longer, I unfortunately need to use the XFAVC and everytime I am really disappointed when editing. That's why I am planning to upgrade to the C300 Mark III (and because of the cleaner shadows and the therefore much faster editing time).
Maybe just get an Atomos Ninja Star for your interviews? I found one used with a 128gb card included for cheap.
Man, your videos always look extra crispy! Did you use the C200 to film this video?
As always, excellent content! Keep up the good work👍🏼👍🏼🔥
Thanks for video! Does the camera always record native ISO 800 in RAW? If so, could you overexpose the image and monitor at a lower ISO?
Thanks Crimson Engine enjoying your course !!
Glad you enjoy it!
Great video. I'd like to know how do you sharpen the video in Premiere. Thank you so much.
Hey Rubidium. Can you say more about your sharpening workflow?
Could you please help me regarding the C200?
I’ve been trying now for two hours to figure out how on earth to set an assignable button to switch to a certain setting such as 50 fps in slow motion mode while being in 25 fps base.
This dosen’t seen to be possible, or am I missing something basic here? Every time I’m in 4K mode and press the assignable button to go to slow motion it goes to 100 fps and lowers the resolution to 1080p. Why can’t I tell the camera to only go to 50 fps in slow motion mode since that is the limit in 4K?
Just change the setting to 50p normal speed and do the slowdown in post. I think that might be the work around you're after
@@Crimsonengine Thanks for taking your time to reply!
Yes I would do that but i can’t seem to assign it to a user button, or am I missing something? Going via the menu each time isn’t going to work as it takes to long.
This won’t be an issue on my C400, as it has dedicated buttons for that, right?
Just found your channel, awesome content!😊
Is 1000 hours a lot for a used one? Will it go for another 1000?
The biggest question is should we sell C200 to get the C70. I would love a video on the topic.
Thinking a lot about that myself. I'm on it!
Bought the C200 in December 2019 at an incredible price and then came the Pandemic, I live in Panama and we were in lockdown for about 7 complete months so I did not use the camera very much. Today I got my hands on a solidpod Lite with a 1TB M.2 drive that gives me 133 minutes of RAW. Are there any special setup that I should use to maximize my pleasure at shooting Raw with my C200 ? I also got a 7" screen with False color (only HDMI In/Out) but It will do for now I guess. Any help would be appreciated.
Is you class teach about premier pro or resolve? Don’t say both please.
i have one question : what about a external TC, exemple : générator TC is my F8n --> tentacle --> C200
thx for your response
Great video man. I'm new in this channel but just realised that I've been watching your videos for quite awhile now and hey, it was time to subscribe, lol... I've been looking into cinema cameras and as I use Canon (EOS R), I would prefer to continue with this brand as it offers good color etc... The C 200 is a candidate, but now there is the new C70 coming out! What are your thoughts about it? Thanks man
Always Love your c200 tips ❤️ i am shooting a music video in a Club/disco environment this friday. So, Crazy Flashs lighting. What ISO do you think is best filming 10Bit raw with sigma art 1.8 lens? And how to avoid unwanted LED flickering?
Experiment with the system frequency. I've heard that 50 Hz is better for some fluorescent lights..
And cheers!
You can get a 5TB drive for $99. That will store about ten hours of cinema RAW lite footage. Is that really so bad?
Greetings your the best. So is it better to record in clog 2?
Yes, absolutely. I always record Raw on the c200
@@Crimsonengine clog 2 or 3. Sorry i wasn't clear
Thanks for this, you've given my c200 extra life several times over already. One thing I've found that there's a huge difference in how AF performs on the c200 even when using native L glass -- e.g., the 85 1.4 is lovely and gives you speed AND response options, whereas the 50mm 1.2 & 24 1.4 only give you speed (response is greyed out.) Sadly, the Sigma 18-35, while allowing both speed and response settings is, (apart from being ridiculously loud) the spottiest AF lens I have as far as recognizing a face -- have you found this to be the case?
Thanks Sailor! Individual lenses vary, but this has been my experience too. I think the reason the L-series Zooms are so expensive is that they're quieter. The sigma Art primes are pretty good.
Did you get the updates for the lens....it seems quieter now. I like the 24-70 Sigma
Can you use the Ninja V to record RAW video from the C200?
No raw output on the C200
@@Crimsonengine that’s too bad. Thx for replying.
I love my C200, but I’m in the market for a second Canon camera.
Having a hard time deciding between another C200 (maybe B version. I think it’s an amazing value these days) C70, or going for the C300MIII .
Going through the pros & cons in my head .
Now that you have the MIII , how does the image from the new dgo sensor compare to the C200 raw?
Hey Juan I'm in the exact same delima youre in. But torn between getting either another C200 or C300 mkiii
Like a Man on Fire That dgo sensor is sweet! Would love to see a real world shoot-out between the two .
Not a torture test or anything like that. Just a real world side-by-side comparison . Both shooting raw.
I believe that the image on the Canon C70 is more detailed and sharp with 10-bit shooting, due to the RF bayonet, as well as due to it, you have the opportunity to get a sharp and detailed image at fully open apertures, such as 1.2 by 50 mm., which EF will not give. But the C70 doesn't have RAW yet, so With the 300 iii with its DGO, or wait until and if they "deliver" RAW to the C70.
Can you put a link to the C200 forums you referred to? Is it Facebook or a dedicated forum? Either way a link would be appreciated.
Not sure how to link, but its called the 'Canon EOS C200 and C300 MK III User Group' with about 6k members.
Do you have LUTs for sale that color correct RAW CR2 Files?
Yes! The LUTS in the description are made for Raw
#Legend
Great vid thanks Rubidium. OK please give us Canon C200 users some help out here. The new IPHONE 12 has 10 bit. For by %~
For everything I’ve heard, 10 bit 4K isn’t possible on the hardware of the c200. They chose to enable raw instead. The c70 is their answer to people’s demands.
@@Crimsonengine Thanks for responding - reading my comment again now I feel it was a little impulsive ... kinda just continuing to hope that Canon will give us 4K 10bit external in a firmware update some time.
Here in South Africa with the poor exchange rate to the dollar the camera is a big investment. I guess that my frustration is that the C200 really stretched the budget, no space for a C70. But when I focus on your valid suggestion that I embrace the RAW there really is no reason to be complaining! I still feel stoked that I opted for the C200 when I made my choice.
Thanks for your content, It's really motivated and helped me to get into using the RAW capabilities.
Just a question about what ISO do you shoot RAW in ?
I try and keep it below 400 so it doesn't get too grainy. Most of these youtube videos I do are shot at ISO 200
Crimson Engine thank you. Explains why some of my footage is a bit too grainy.
Hey...do u still shoot your youtube videos with c200??
You betcha!
@@Crimsonengine am little bit confused between the A7siii vs c200...it's a compact body with killer video features....but without in-built nd and XLR input..can u give some opinion on this?
You look cuter but im still missing the blue pop, also did you record this on the c200? You should have made this video like 9 years ago