The Twitch Adpocalypse From A Gaming Streamer's Perspective
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
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Personally, I think shoving 6 ads down someone's throat the moment they click on someone's stream to check them out turns people away. It's personally why I stopped going to Twitch and just wait for UA-cam uploads. Yesterday I checked out twitch and it was annoying trying to find people to watch because whenever I clicked on something, I had to sit through like 3 minutes of ads. What really ticked me off is I accidentally clicked off a stream right after watching the ads, immediately went back to the stream, and then I had to watch a bunch of ads AGAIN. If I really want to watch live streams, I just stick to UA-cam. There's gotta be a better way to do ads.
That's pre-roll ads, something affiliates and partners have control over happening. They need to play a total of 3 minutes of ads per hour to not have pre-roll ads play. PirateSoftware does 2 minutes of ads every 30 minutes to meet that requirement and as such, he doesn't have pre-roll ads. The smart streamers do similar.
Yeah im spoiled by youtube premium, everytime I go to watch twitch i just get annoyed by ads and stop watching
@@aohdan5713exactly! It’d cost so much more on twitch to get the same experience
Fax that’s my life on twitch
It's the year 2024, if you don't have methods to remove ads then that's on you.
I rarely rarely watch streams but I had noticed on the very few occasions in the last few times I have popped in to the stream, anytime any streamer said ads are running, nothing would happen on my end. I wouldn't even get the blue screen.
Just an observation.
Well you are lying. Because it came out a few hours ago that this isn't even a thing. And only streamers who make sexual content (most girls) and people with the political tag (or talking about them) would have no ads run. This was proven across multiple streamers already literally hours ago.
The ads have gone no where. Unless you are one of those streamers in particular, or were watching one of them. Then sure, you most certainly got less ads. But if you were watching a normal creator, you got the same amount as usual. Or maybe the last time you watched one, that streamer had a minimum watch time requirement before ads. You can setup a timer so that when someone first comes into the stream, they don't get ads for a set amount of time. This prevents them from getting hit with pre-rolls and then right after get hit with another 2-3 minutes of ads.
So if the one you watched wasn't talking politics or isn't a egirl, they might've had that setup instead. Because again, it was already confirmed that the adpocalypse is not real. Unfortunately Flats likely made this reaction last night or super early today, so he didn't get that piece of the news. He's always super late to the party.
I gave up watching streams because of the ads in general. Ads that run for 3 mins?
might be your browser or vpn’s built in adblock working as intended
wait both palestine and israel got shutoff but the companies only worried about the israel part? calling anti semitism but then says good job for turning palestine off?
A lot of big corpa are backing israel and probably will continue to do so while America has influence there.
Because Israeli people are willing and can spend money which in turn, make these advertisers money. While Palestine, a country ravaged by war and its people poor, doesn't add value to the companies, this isn't a priority. They only want money.
Was thinking the same thing
It's because Islamophobia is widely tolerated in the US... and being critical about how one specific governing body is handling things... is called antisemitism. And you don't want anyone relating you to moustache man
Yep. I highly bet that most of this so called "anti-semitism" is just people criticism zionism or the Palestine massacres.
This is all so odd to me from a consumer standpoint. How many consumers watching twitch and youtube ACTUALLY care about ads or interact with them in any shape or form? this might be just coming from a ignorant viewpoint, but I particularly despise ads. Rarely do they ever actually get me to look something up or buy something or even just put an idea in my mind to think about it later on, because there's just SO much ads EVERYWHERE. I am confused as to why anyone would even notice or care if an ad was next to hateful content because most (?) people just automatically disregard the ad or have the critical thinking skills to know the ad has nothing to do with the content.
Thanks for the info! As one of the ancients in your viewerbase, I appreciate the business shit.
I was seeing that "Ad Break in Progress" thing on Emmong and was wondering what was happening
Yeah, im sorry. I really tried all day to get you a screenshot and pull numbers of people who were having issues after 2 hours. I was able to get 18 other people to tell me about them having broken ads, but it never broke for me after 2 hours. I kept getting normal ads on my alt account. 😢
And for the test I wanted it to break, but in reality I never want it to because for some people their twitch ad income is their livelihood.
no bc the yt ads recently have been fuckedddd. i kept getting crypto scam ads every 5 ads. not to mention I have also been seeing cheat ads. not to mention ads for adult toys like there are children on this website
Anti-Israeli government is NOT antisemitism. Please repeat this to people non fucking stop. I think the twitch issue has more going on than just that, but the conflation is pervasive.
This. When he said anti defamation league I had to roll my eyes a little.
They are different BUT chances are if someone is anti-zionist they are probably antisemitic. People like Hasan and Frogen are pretty blatantly anti-zionists. They are also blatantly antisemitic. It feeds into one another, and the twitch culture clearly likes it.
Depends. If you are willing to boycot Israel but not China for the same ethical dilemas, it is kinda antisemitic.
The best perspective I can give to you of criticism that is not antisemitic is what the Israeli left/alt left defends.
Have a good one, and take care not to make your jewish friends feel unsafe around you.
Exactly and my Jews are actually against the invasion of Palestine
Playing houthi musicals and saying you don't have problem with terrorist orgs isn't anti israeli.
Luds vid was good at talking about the numbers stuff but not good at talking about the reason it's happening because he doesn't mention Hasan's role in this it's not just Asmon or Hasan but Hasan has said some really fucked up stuff but hasn't seen a ban while Asmon said something horrible and got a 12day ban there's more but I don't want to do a huge paragraph (even though I already have)
Touch grass.
@@cheeseblast ok
@@cheeseblastwe got the hasan viewer
twitch is runned by a lot of adult-childs playing favorites, nor hasan nor asmond are at fault here, the whole ban situation was just the last brick, the people at twitch are extremely biased, people were aware of it but they already had enough i guess
Twitch moderation has majority of the fault at the end of the day. They let the problem fester for a while. They deliberately avoided banning certain creators even when they clearly broke TOS and even federal law.
If they handed out severe bans to bad actors like Hasan and Co, they would have either toned down the rhetoric or just get perma. At the end of the day this problem started from favoritism and political partisanship.
I noticed this happening to me, I got 2mins worth of ads and it was just the ad in progress screen for 2mins, I would prefer to be actually watching something for 2mins if you are gonna make me watch ads
I dont see why Twitch would get less ads around this time of the year, it's literally the biggest time with the holidays and people having time off (and it's cold so people stay inside too).
November and December are always the most busy month for content creator so it's wild that they would mess it ads now.
kinda of topic but holy shit we still dealing with the one person fucks up everyone suffers shit like in school but irl..... its getting fucking annoying
Twitch has been wallowing in shit content for years. Political Streams, Hottub to more pornographic content, gambling and the list goes on. Asmon and his vendetta against Twitch for not being treated like people issuing death threats or racism was just what got the media and advertisers involved. This was going to happen, sooner rather than later. The advertisers did not give two shits until it became known in wider media that this crap as happening and want to protect their image. Simple as.
Going forward, especially if Trump moves on his section 230 Platform crackdown, expect anything outside of entertainment to draw in less advertisement money.
Yeah, thor explained this thing. There's no adpocalypse.
Yeah lol people fail to understand that certain times of the year advertisers slow down for a while
I mean could they not be be limiting ads to everyone so they can pocket alot more of advertiser money since it's the holiday season.
I'm probably one of your oldest viewers (age 50). Sorry for skewing your average. LOL
This "Adpocalypse" is only for american streamers, for every other streamer in the world the Adpocalypse is every day...
That is literally not even true...At all lmfao. Maybe in your country, but tons of other countries have TONS of ad revenue especially in big Spanish creators. Along with tons of Japanese etc. There are TONS of countries with mass amounts of ad revenue lmfao.
What are u talking about
@DragneelXx go to a foreign streamer and ask how many hours does this person need to do to make ends meet... Twitch babysits American streamers my friend, outside the US, twitch payment is really low
@@DragneelXx good question
I tried to watch twitch and i got the message. And it wouldn't go away. I tried clicking a different stream and going back and the message stayed there
Ngl the ads are way too brutal on twitch. I have UA-cam premium and just started only watching UA-cam streamers because twitch is to expensive to get the same experience
2:30 wait I think I saw like 2 ads the entire stream and the entire rest was ad break in progress. I thought it was my blocker
Okay imma say this even if i get hate. Being pro Palestinian doesn't mean we're antisemitic. Some of these companies and newsites have used it interchangeable because they lean more towards pro Israel.
Yes what happened in October was horrible but that doesn't mean what's happening is justified. Also the IDF is notoriously horrible so take what they said with a grain of salt. Yes hasan has said a lot of bad stuff including related to russia and Ukraine and at the start of that. That doesn't mean all political streamers should get no revenue just because a few say horrific things.
Was thinking just this, because I think Israel’s Netanyahu has drilled the false pretense that Zionism is the same as Semitism so much that it’s normal to think the two are the same, when it can’t be farther from the truth.
Unfortunately twitch openly endorses Hasans crazy viewpoints. Chances are if you stream politics on Twitch, you either agree with Hasan and spread his misinformation. Or he does his best to ostracize everyone in the community against you until you eventually get banned for not falling in line.
So yes, chances are 98% of political streamers deserve to lose their revenue.
The vocal minority ruins everything. Its always been like that if an idiot has a megaphone and starts screaming shit into it, people will hear it even if its a load of insanity
I love how you conveniently left out hasan supporting terrorist organisations and playing terrorist propaganda on stream. While i agree that has gone too far this time historically they have never attacked first and in fact the most no. of palestinians killed was in jordan by their own muslim "brothers"
@@unscinfinity3337 when do you think the conflict began? I’ll give you a hint: it didn’t begin in the last 5 years.
Next question: Who started the conflict? Was it:
A. Israel
B. Iraq
C. Al-Qaeda
D. The United States of America
E. Palestine
F. The Kingdom of Great Britain
or G. Laos
There is antisemitism which is wrong always will be, but then there is critiquing a state. For what that country has been doing for almost a century, of course people will be critical of the state
And yet israel never attacked first. Now what israel is doing today is over the board that's true but to say it's entirely israel's fault isn't right either. Plus supporting a terrorist org like hasan or calling death threats like central committee ain't being critical of a state.
@@unscinfinity3337 Ofc not, they’re both in the wrong. The State of Israel is conducting literal war crimes and human rights violations, but Hamas is doing the exact same thing and they’ve been doing both prior to the October 7th attacks. Israel may have the larger body count here, but Hamas is not so innocent when they have killed thousands of Israeli civilians themselves.
@@unscinfinity3337wum they didn't attack first? Have u not heard of the naqkba?
@@ender0998 not heard of the arab rebellion the thousand of years arabs killed jews
@@kassandraofodyssey6475the issue with whole conflict is that in reality it has been going on for almost a century now, ever since Israel was artificially established by forcefully pushing people out of their homes.
This is something that can be stopped if both sides agree to not have their way fully. But both Israel and Palestine have no intention in giving away certain areas. And at this point it's hard to tell who should be in control of what.
It's a conflict that a lot of people on the internet flatten to simple "X side good, but Y side is evil murder terrorist", where in reality both sides are about as much in the wrong, for different reasons.
If Ludwig also held his political friends accountable it would of been a good video. Still informative though
11:38 “Paid for the pack” 😂
Yeah, the real issue with twitch is that they aren't consistent at all and are playing favorites.
Twitch is the real culprit, Asmon or Hasan are the results.
Twitch has always played favorites from the beginning
Dont talk about sexual content nor political views. Use the appropriate tags and you will be fine. This only effect those with no actual content aka reaction streamers
So what you're saying is I can use twitch now, nice.
When was the first time you started getting descent viewers on twitch Flats?
Bro thinks flats is going to reply to him 😭😭😭
He started getting Partner level views (70+) at june 2020, He started getting famous streamer (2k+) numbers Oct 2022
@@thundercake9407 Define "famous" because at 70-100 viewers you already make quite a bit more than minimum wage in all states. Many folks think you are only famous after you have a few thousand viewers. Only ONE PERCENT of all streamers GLOBALLY ever hit partner. That's it. If you hit partner, you are already famous. You are literally the 1%. And that only needs 70 viewers.
And already making A LOT of money with just those numbers. A few thousand viewers you'd be making 100's of thousands a month with decent brand deals and depending on your contract/ad split.
was there a control for that experiment flats mentioned at the start?
yeah I also got the commercak break in progress
extracting millions a month out of less than 100k people is crazy. Like who are these whales.
I mean "political commentators" sitting in "just chatting" raking in mad cash on political rants has been a problem on twitch forever. Of course twitch was gunna get away with raking in the money until the advertisers realized. Kinda on the advertisers not realizing the problem after youtube years ago.
Flats did edit the word Anti? Lmao
i though that Commercial break in progress was normal thing on flats stream O_o
Ludwig's video was not good lol
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Just have to add a point about people on Twitch making multiple hundred thousands per month, yes personnal bills are less an issue, but it's important to remember that some people with these channels have emoployees, and going from 400k$ to 200k$ probably means either cut or serious headache.
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The ads are only stopped on streams with the political tag, every other stream still gets ad rev. Pirate Software even talked about it and said every other stream still gets all the ad revenue they usually do.
Yeah unfortunately Flats and most creators never wait for all the info to come out before making videos on shit. Why would they? They would just lose views if they wait too long.
This is why you should NEVER get any news from content creators. EVER. They aren't interested in what is factually accurate, they just want more money. Especially not a guy that took like 5+ years to finally learn that maining OW content isn't going to get him very far. You NEED to always stream variety and build variety otherwise you fail when the game you main fails.
So we aren't talking about the brightest fish in the crayon box.
It's November they are supposed to be getting more than they usually do...
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Good thing this isn't actually a thing lol
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twitch use to be better when it was just a fun gaming platform but that have changed
Twitch hasn't been a purely gaming platform since gamer girl meta of middle 2010s.
@@nihili4196 you miss the point of my comment i am saying it was better what it was before when there is no 10 min ad every 5 min or so and use to be a bit more enjoyable now it pretty much just a pornsite at this point and other stuff
I love how Flats uploads these videos ALWAYS too late. Every. Single. Time.
Few hours before this upload, it was confirmed by multiple streamers that there is NO adpocalypse. And that all the streams that had limited/no ads were (or had) the political tag or were talking about politics at the time. (And same applies to sexual content creators)
So flats reacts to this video, uploads his own, but at this point it's completely outdated and wrong on multiple points. This is why taking time to learn about the drama and letting all info come to light before reacting or making a video on things is crucial and important. But creators these days are only money focused and could care less about facts. Just get the video out for max profits.
but he confirmed it he is getting less money ... he isnt political at all or sexual
@@sese8976what do you mean Flats isn't sexual?
I watch Flats for his pure, unyielding sexappeal
@@nihili4196REAL 💯💯