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THANK YOU. Finally someone mentions it. No matter how easy of a one click it is to enable some repository... If the user has to do it, it's a fail. The user doesnt know what a repository is, what Flathub is, and he doesnt have to. 99,999% of all users Just want their system to work and to do what they want it to do. No tinkering, no Wiki, nothing. 🙏
They should take a look at how Zorin integrates both Snap and Flatpak into its software center, such that the noob doesn't really need to know even what they are.
@@sixdroid The flathub repo has been enabled by default in previous versions as well ... And snapd has been disabled by default in previous versions as well ...
Bottom line, Elementary OS isn’t elementary. IF its target is new Linux users, then it should just work out of the box with a suite of pre-installed packages like a browser and an office suite. As it is, it’s a fail. The developers are shooting themselves in their collective feet. You cannot monetize an OS that doesn’t attract and keep users. Their reputation in the Linux community is no longer a good one. They need to rethink their approach quickly.
No distro should try to stop users to install any software they want, be it open source or not. This is a societal issue where it is accepted that people are forced to do "what is good". This decision should not be up to social networks, tech giants or Linux. The power should be in the hands of the user and if your values are valid they will be followed. If there are legal issues or if you are a test bed for a commercial Linux distro, ie Fedora, I understand. Otherwise, leave it to the users.
Mostly I agree, but I’m glad the FSF approved distros don’t allow you to install proprietary software, for the people that run those distros, it’s more of a help than an annoyance.
if they claim, advertise, even have pop-ups on the installer to warn you about it, then it's fine, like "in this house we follow this rules", the same way some distros go minimal or rolling release they can chose to be FOSS only, if you don't like it just pick another distro ir make your own, that's the beauty of freedom
Even Nick from the Linux experiment says the same thing. I question why not give the user the choice in the settings? Just a couple toggle switches - one to enable ubuntu-repos and one to enable flathub repos. Make it easy for the user to enable those other packages.... This is why I keep using Mint - average users don't care about 3rd parties or proprietary repos - they just want their system and their software to work.
I really liked ElementaryOS but it was just too restrictive. It wasn't long after that I switched to Manjaro. I've been using Manjaro for years, and I'm happy with it. I much prefer the rolling release model. I suspect once a new Linux user becomes familiar with the Linux world, they'll get annoyed with eOS and look for something with more options. And it's a shame because their DE is really nice.
Some people just like it simple and use what they get. Mac OS and iOS are also restrictive plus all the spying and yet ... At least Elementary is different from most other distros and does something unique.
Bro only 6 minutes in but this is so well articulated, yeah this may be easy for me because I’ve been in the Linux ecosystem for a while but I’m looking at elementary OS to put on my partners old Mac, and it’s these sorts of issues with Linux distributions that really make me frustrated when trying to recommend a new user to Linux because I know that it’ll just halt my friends progress during the switch, and even if it’s not for long or it’s easy it still kills momentum
I like Elementary but I can't even install newer versions. I get the dreaded message about not being able to read from the media, although, in reality that is some ancient, stock message and the problems have nothing to do with the media. It's just some kind of hardware compatibility thing.
I've been using elementaryOS for a week, coming from Ubuntu and Linux Mint. It's absolutely beautiful, but like the other Linux OSes I've used it's not all plain sailing. I had weird issues with Plank, when I did install Firefox it wouldn't match the OS layout, and other niggles. All fixable with google-fu and basic Linux knowledge, but I agree it's not "beginner friendly". Gnome Web as a default browser sucks, but I do actually like "light mode"... The thing is, I had to learn said google-fu with Mint and Ubuntu for fixing their niggles. Coming with that experience which makes such issues easy to fix, the OS is beautiful. I'm hopeful for it's future.
It's a shame ElementaryOS can't seem to catch onto the importance of discoverability, because Pantheon is a pretty excellent desktop. As someone who is taking a break from (extensive) customization, only changing the accent color automatic to your wallpaper choice is a simple but nice touch. All in all the discoverability issue remains at large, so I wouldn't consider this a "big improvement" for that quirk alone. Sad, because other applications legitimately got improved with less incentive to outright replace them.
I agree, also. And that's what makes the problem worse. If they're going to insist that everything conforms to their design guidelines, then they need to provide an office suite and a decent browser for new users. If these users get on Elrmentary OS and discover there's no usable basic apps they'll just go right back to Windows or Mac.
GNOME 40+ basically destroyed all need for Pantheon and eOS. AppCenter was great, back then, but now with Gnome Software and Discovery slowing improving, they aren't providing anything new.
I made basically this comment on Nick's (The Linux Experiment) video. I LOVED eOS 5, and used it for close to a year. When eOS 6 landed, they were one of the first to the game with real touchpad gestures. Once I got over that though, the issues started showing. At the same time, Gnome and KDE caught up quickly and passed Pantheon's unique features very quickly, plus having a much more reliable release cycle and development. Unfortunately eOS and even Pantheon are largely obsolete these days.
I have never cared for it but I always tried to do Elementary "their way" when i tried it (I probably will try E 7 ) ..... the app center especially on a fresh install kept having issue and while i am a "CLI guy" ... other app centers like in Neon, Linux Mint or just Gnome Software on distros ... I have had never had the issues that Elenentary's Software Center has had like the last 3+ versions
The reason they do this, as far as I know, is to only have curated apps on the store by default, to keep the look coherent. Still a poor argument, if you don't have enough apps for a complete ecosystem.
I don't know if this is still the case, but last time I tried Elementary OS the default browser was Epiphany which is IMO just an unacceptable choice. Obviously you can install whatever browser you want but when a distro doesn't make good choices for sane defaults then it really doesn't inspire confidence in the developers.
at the very LEAST I'd say put an option in the installer to enable flathub and let the user decide (*** fully explaining wtf Flathub is to the user). I admit I haven't used Fedora in a bit but i respect the way they do things and before it was EOL (i think it was a one guy team) even Fedora kept giving credit and "Congrats on the new release" to the one Fedora spin I know of ... Korora ... basically Fedora with at the time Numix themes and icons and RPMFusion by default ...BASICALLY Fedora with what most Fedora users do to Fedora after a fresh install anyway. I am not sure i like the theming but Gecko Linux is the same sort of thing for OpenSUSE... it's the base distro (Leap or Tumbleweed) with what users typically do to it by default like add the packman repo
I did a review of Elementary OS 6 on my channel and said virtually the same as what you just said. They don't make it obvious enough to new users how to obtain popular software packages. It is the complete opposite to Ubuntu which has a different version of hell where their repositories contain so many junk snap packages that don't work. If they flicked the switch to enable flathub or made that button big and bright to make it obvious then it would be one of the most usable out of the box experiences available because the desktop is just beautiful. Check out how MX Linux deals with package management. that is how it should be done
I came back to Linux after 10 years on Mac by installing elementary os 6, I liked the pantheon DE, but the limitations meant that I didn’t stay on it for long. Ended up installing opensuse leap as that was what I used before Mac OS and found the cinnamon desktop to be very usable and intuitive, then opensuse was shelved with nothing coming out after 15.5. I’m currently very happy with the fedora cinnamon spin, it’s not perfect, in my opinion, opensuse leap is better, but there is little point in continuing with an os that will be reaching end of life very soon.
@@sixdroid tried it, didn’t support my hardware. Was able to get into a DE but had no internet, not sound, and no printing. I don’t have those issues with Fedora. Mint has done an amazing job building and maintaining cinnamon, but their base system simply isn’t as good as fedora IMO
@@sixdroid Saying mint is ubuntu is like saying ubuntu is Debian, building on something doesn’t make it the same, in my use case the DE worked well but the underlying base systems were missing support, Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, doesn’t matter as it didn’t work. It is also possible to build on something that works and to have it stop working, like how bleeding edge distros like arch and gentoo keep breaking after updates. Not sure where you got the idea that I was using an antiquated version of mint, but, not only will a 10 year old version of mint be unlikely to support hardware for a computer less than 1 year old, it is actually impossible that it will support almost any current hardware since it won’t have the drivers, it probably won’t even connect to the current repos after 10 years. Current Mint didn’t support my hardware, neither did current Ubuntu nor current Debian, Fedora did so I am using Fedora cinnamon spin.
@@MrKilljay I ran tumbleweed for a couple of weeks, did updates every day since there were a lot of them constantly popping up, and I liked it when it worked, but then one day I ran an update and the entire system broke. Did a roll back and checked the logs to find out that of all the updates that it could have been, it was Firefox that killed the system. From what I’ve seen tumbleweed is very stable as far as rolling releases go, certainly much better than anything arch based, but it was still broken by Firefox, so Inthink I’ll be sticking with fedora for the moment.
I probably spent more time watching this video than I took running Elementary OS 7 before I concluded that it was yet another disappointing release. At least I used a VM.
I remember trying Elementary 4 when it was codenamed was Freya. It was impressive but had the same problems. What are they thinkin' over there I wonder?.. No hate just.. confusion.
Several years ago I used ElementaryOS for some time. Although Pantheon looked very "polished", I found it to be way too restrictive. The fact that you need a specific tool to do basic adjustments is beyond my comprehension. Moreover, that tool gets broken with every update. Unfortunately, ElementaryOS is a no for me now.
Firstly I agree with your analysis of elementary 7.0. Second, I don't trust any distro that claims to be "noob friendly". I honestly don't think Linux should be as easy as Windows or Mac. Linux should be a journey that you embark on out of curiosity or even necessity. A new user should learn to love Linux and accept that they need to learn a new way of doing things. Just my two cents.
I do most things in the terminal, and I did learn Linux the way you're saying. But I don't think it's the way forward. I think I does need new user friendly distros, if we want to break the single digits user number one day.
Disagree. GNU distros must have a purpose, and some distros are for hardcore users, such as Gentoo and Arch. Others must be easy as butter to use, because we don't need to gatekeep GNU/Linux, it is for everyone.
From their webpage about the AppCenter: "Get these 121 curated apps and more on elementary AppCenter, the open, pay-what-you-can app store for indie developers. Each is open source and has been reviewed and curated by elementary to ensure a native, privacy-respecting, and secure experience."
In my experience at least Pantheon doesn't play very nicely when it's not on elementary. I've tried using it on Arch as well as openSUSE (on Gecko Linux), but it turns into a buggy mess pretty quickly, with lots of crashes and things simply not working at all. Besides, these days why would you want to use Pantheon over Gnome? It has all the same features and more, plus way more customization options with extensions if you want to. You can run Gnome on any distro, and it's much more widely used and supported so any issues are addressed quickly.
What is the point of hosting your own flatpak repo? The only benefit of flatpaks are ttheir distro independance. just host a normal compiled app repo if you are thinking of making a distro-proprietary flatpak repo.
I just tested it on real hardware and.. bugs bugs bugs . Jesus, is the colors or degrade functionality of music player is the biggest changes in it??? Sad, very sad. 5.x HERA was the right direction. 6 and up is terrific
Use the command line you had to find yourself to mount a freaking thumb drive.... Says it worked, IT DIDN'T. You can't see the drive anywhere. LMAO. What-a-joke. Chugged it in the trash as soon as I could get it off my system.
been looking for something to leave Arch for, for many years, anytime I take the plunge and go all in.... I generally almost always go back within a month.... Linux is still mostly awful, I've been using it since Red Hat 5..... came on a CD with a magazine when I was a kid.... it was awful then, its awful now.... but when I went back to Windows 10 for 5 minutes I was back to downloading an arch iso to get rid of that quick smart.... like the browsers, we have a choice between crap and absolutely crap
i dont agree. they are not stopping anyone from doing anything. you want flathub, you enable flathub. they even link you on how to di it. Its a minor change a user can do even if coming from windows. If they are not willing to take their time to read a line of text they might as well stay on their windows xp system
@@TheLinuxCast Honestly Flathub isn't the biggest issue - there are other bigger distros where Flathub isn't enabled by default. The issue I have is that this supposedly beginner friendly distro based on Ubuntu has no way to access Ubuntu's repos (that aren't eOS specific) through the app center. Someone brand new to Linux shouldn't be forced to use a terminal to get something so basic as an alternate web browser besides Epiphany, or an office suite. Yes, if you're an experience Linux user these are just minor annoyances, but someone brand new is going to be lost and very frustrated. EDIT: I watched a little further and you made pretty much this exact point. Great minds think alike I guess?
It's just a joke based on the fact that with every release of Elementary the developers receive multiple criticisms that they ascribe to transphobic sexist incels. Obviously they receive sexist comments that are not justified but the EOS team instead of ignoring them and pay attention to the criticisms of their system decide to magnify only the bad comments.
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@@kennyheimbuch8686 Doesn't it support Ubuntu's apps?
THANK YOU. Finally someone mentions it. No matter how easy of a one click it is to enable some repository... If the user has to do it, it's a fail. The user doesnt know what a repository is, what Flathub is, and he doesnt have to. 99,999% of all users Just want their system to work and to do what they want it to do. No tinkering, no Wiki, nothing. 🙏
noobs users don't know. Linux it's there since years and trust me people who are using Linux knows what a repo is
They should take a look at how Zorin integrates both Snap and Flatpak into its software center, such that the noob doesn't really need to know even what they are.
mint too
@@sixdroid Mint only integrates Flatpaks. Snaps are disabled by default.
@@marasion0862 just since latest version. don't have the flatpak update in mint based on previous lts.
@@sixdroid The flathub repo has been enabled by default in previous versions as well ... And snapd has been disabled by default in previous versions as well ...
Bottom line, Elementary OS isn’t elementary. IF its target is new Linux users, then it should just work out of the box with a suite of pre-installed packages like a browser and an office suite. As it is, it’s a fail. The developers are shooting themselves in their collective feet. You cannot monetize an OS that doesn’t attract and keep users. Their reputation in the Linux community is no longer a good one. They need to rethink their approach quickly.
No distro should try to stop users to install any software they want, be it open source or not. This is a societal issue where it is accepted that people are forced to do "what is good". This decision should not be up to social networks, tech giants or Linux. The power should be in the hands of the user and if your values are valid they will be followed. If there are legal issues or if you are a test bed for a commercial Linux distro, ie Fedora, I understand. Otherwise, leave it to the users.
Mostly I agree, but I’m glad the FSF approved distros don’t allow you to install proprietary software, for the people that run those distros, it’s more of a help than an annoyance.
if they claim, advertise, even have pop-ups on the installer to warn you about it, then it's fine, like "in this house we follow this rules", the same way some distros go minimal or rolling release they can chose to be FOSS only, if you don't like it just pick another distro ir make your own, that's the beauty of freedom
That's a good opinion of it, a few seem to be questioning the choice not to enable flathub by default. Thanks for all the vids Matt!
Even Nick from the Linux experiment says the same thing. I question why not give the user the choice in the settings? Just a couple toggle switches - one to enable ubuntu-repos and one to enable flathub repos. Make it easy for the user to enable those other packages.... This is why I keep using Mint - average users don't care about 3rd parties or proprietary repos - they just want their system and their software to work.
I really liked ElementaryOS but it was just too restrictive. It wasn't long after that I switched to Manjaro. I've been using Manjaro for years, and I'm happy with it. I much prefer the rolling release model. I suspect once a new Linux user becomes familiar with the Linux world, they'll get annoyed with eOS and look for something with more options. And it's a shame because their DE is really nice.
Some people just like it simple and use what they get. Mac OS and iOS are also restrictive plus all the spying and yet ...
At least Elementary is different from most other distros and does something unique.
Matt, your thoughts on E-OS are exactly what I wanted to hear ! Delivering the truth !!.. thanks :)
I 100% agree with you, the entire "we do not enable it by default" pisses me off on so many distros. Just do it.
Bro only 6 minutes in but this is so well articulated, yeah this may be easy for me because I’ve been in the Linux ecosystem for a while but I’m looking at elementary OS to put on my partners old Mac, and it’s these sorts of issues with Linux distributions that really make me frustrated when trying to recommend a new user to Linux because I know that it’ll just halt my friends progress during the switch, and even if it’s not for long or it’s easy it still kills momentum
I like Elementary but I can't even install newer versions. I get the dreaded message about not being able to read from the media, although, in reality that is some ancient, stock message and the problems have nothing to do with the media. It's just some kind of hardware compatibility thing.
I've been using elementaryOS for a week, coming from Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
It's absolutely beautiful, but like the other Linux OSes I've used it's not all plain sailing. I had weird issues with Plank, when I did install Firefox it wouldn't match the OS layout, and other niggles. All fixable with google-fu and basic Linux knowledge, but I agree it's not "beginner friendly". Gnome Web as a default browser sucks, but I do actually like "light mode"...
The thing is, I had to learn said google-fu with Mint and Ubuntu for fixing their niggles. Coming with that experience which makes such issues easy to fix, the OS is beautiful. I'm hopeful for it's future.
It's a shame ElementaryOS can't seem to catch onto the importance of discoverability, because Pantheon is a pretty excellent desktop.
As someone who is taking a break from (extensive) customization, only changing the accent color automatic to your wallpaper choice is a simple but nice touch. All in all the discoverability issue remains at large, so I wouldn't consider this a "big improvement" for that quirk alone. Sad, because other applications legitimately got improved with less incentive to outright replace them.
I think the reason it's not enabled by default is because the Flathub applications don't conform to the design guidelines of Elementary OS.
That's another good possibility.
I agree, also. And that's what makes the problem worse. If they're going to insist that everything conforms to their design guidelines, then they need to provide an office suite and a decent browser for new users. If these users get on Elrmentary OS and discover there's no usable basic apps they'll just go right back to Windows or Mac.
GNOME 40+ basically destroyed all need for Pantheon and eOS. AppCenter was great, back then, but now with Gnome Software and Discovery slowing improving, they aren't providing anything new.
I made basically this comment on Nick's (The Linux Experiment) video. I LOVED eOS 5, and used it for close to a year. When eOS 6 landed, they were one of the first to the game with real touchpad gestures. Once I got over that though, the issues started showing. At the same time, Gnome and KDE caught up quickly and passed Pantheon's unique features very quickly, plus having a much more reliable release cycle and development. Unfortunately eOS and even Pantheon are largely obsolete these days.
Did You say "Manpower" in minute 9 ?
I have never cared for it but I always tried to do Elementary "their way" when i tried it (I probably will try E 7 ) ..... the app center especially on a fresh install kept having issue and while i am a "CLI guy" ... other app centers like in Neon, Linux Mint or just Gnome Software on distros ... I have had never had the issues that Elenentary's Software Center has had like the last 3+ versions
The reason they do this, as far as I know, is to only have curated apps on the store by default, to keep the look coherent.
Still a poor argument, if you don't have enough apps for a complete ecosystem.
I don't know if this is still the case, but last time I tried Elementary OS the default browser was Epiphany which is IMO just an unacceptable choice. Obviously you can install whatever browser you want but when a distro doesn't make good choices for sane defaults then it really doesn't inspire confidence in the developers.
so you never used windows when explored was there?
@@sixdroid I have, but I don't really see what your point is.
at the very LEAST I'd say put an option in the installer to enable flathub and let the user decide (*** fully explaining wtf Flathub is to the user).
I admit I haven't used Fedora in a bit but i respect the way they do things and before it was EOL (i think it was a one guy team) even Fedora kept giving credit and "Congrats on the new release" to the one Fedora spin I know of ... Korora ... basically Fedora with at the time Numix themes and icons and RPMFusion by default ...BASICALLY Fedora with what most Fedora users do to Fedora after a fresh install anyway. I am not sure i like the theming but Gecko Linux is the same sort of thing for OpenSUSE... it's the base distro (Leap or Tumbleweed) with what users typically do to it by default like add the packman repo
I did a review of Elementary OS 6 on my channel and said virtually the same as what you just said.
They don't make it obvious enough to new users how to obtain popular software packages.
It is the complete opposite to Ubuntu which has a different version of hell where their repositories contain so many junk snap packages that don't work.
If they flicked the switch to enable flathub or made that button big and bright to make it obvious then it would be one of the most usable out of the box experiences available because the desktop is just beautiful.
Check out how MX Linux deals with package management. that is how it should be done
I came back to Linux after 10 years on Mac by installing elementary os 6, I liked the pantheon DE, but the limitations meant that I didn’t stay on it for long. Ended up installing opensuse leap as that was what I used before Mac OS and found the cinnamon desktop to be very usable and intuitive, then opensuse was shelved with nothing coming out after 15.5. I’m currently very happy with the fedora cinnamon spin, it’s not perfect, in my opinion, opensuse leap is better, but there is little point in continuing with an os that will be reaching end of life very soon.
use mint
@@sixdroid tried it, didn’t support my hardware. Was able to get into a DE but had no internet, not sound, and no printing. I don’t have those issues with Fedora. Mint has done an amazing job building and maintaining cinnamon, but their base system simply isn’t as good as fedora IMO
@@sixdroid Saying mint is ubuntu is like saying ubuntu is Debian, building on something doesn’t make it the same, in my use case the DE worked well but the underlying base systems were missing support, Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, doesn’t matter as it didn’t work. It is also possible to build on something that works and to have it stop working, like how bleeding edge distros like arch and gentoo keep breaking after updates.
Not sure where you got the idea that I was using an antiquated version of mint, but, not only will a 10 year old version of mint be unlikely to support hardware for a computer less than 1 year old, it is actually impossible that it will support almost any current hardware since it won’t have the drivers, it probably won’t even connect to the current repos after 10 years. Current Mint didn’t support my hardware, neither did current Ubuntu nor current Debian, Fedora did so I am using Fedora cinnamon spin.
@@jonaskeepauthor1935 have you tried opensuse tumbleweed? I have been using it for months as a daily driver with no major issues.
@@MrKilljay I ran tumbleweed for a couple of weeks, did updates every day since there were a lot of them constantly popping up, and I liked it when it worked, but then one day I ran an update and the entire system broke. Did a roll back and checked the logs to find out that of all the updates that it could have been, it was Firefox that killed the system.
From what I’ve seen tumbleweed is very stable as far as rolling releases go, certainly much better than anything arch based, but it was still broken by Firefox, so Inthink I’ll be sticking with fedora for the moment.
I probably spent more time watching this video than I took running Elementary OS 7 before I concluded that it was yet another disappointing release. At least I used a VM.
ElementaryOS has always been a favorite, and along with Salix, both are daily drivers.
I remember trying Elementary 4 when it was codenamed was Freya. It was impressive but had the same problems. What are they thinkin' over there I wonder?.. No hate just.. confusion.
Several years ago I used ElementaryOS for some time. Although Pantheon looked very "polished", I found it to be way too restrictive. The fact that you need a specific tool to do basic adjustments is beyond my comprehension. Moreover, that tool gets broken with every update. Unfortunately, ElementaryOS is a no for me now.
You'd think they would start migrating from the intel arch asap and embrace aarch64. Can't wait for Asahi to pump out drivers for general use!
Firstly I agree with your analysis of elementary 7.0. Second, I don't trust any distro that claims to be "noob friendly". I honestly don't think Linux should be as easy as Windows or Mac. Linux should be a journey that you embark on out of curiosity or even necessity. A new user should learn to love Linux and accept that they need to learn a new way of doing things. Just my two cents.
I got a heart from the man himself!
I do most things in the terminal, and I did learn Linux the way you're saying. But I don't think it's the way forward. I think I does need new user friendly distros, if we want to break the single digits user number one day.
Disagree. GNU distros must have a purpose, and some distros are for hardcore users, such as Gentoo and Arch. Others must be easy as butter to use, because we don't need to gatekeep GNU/Linux, it is for everyone.
@@softwarelivre2389 100% agreed
Pantheon has good potential but it still needs a lot of work.
This is the most expensive OS I’ve ever “purchased” that I don’t even use - 4 year github supporter
It's supposed Elementary OS get better with new versions being released, but it doesn't! What's really going on with them?
From their webpage about the AppCenter:
"Get these 121 curated apps and more on elementary AppCenter, the open, pay-what-you-can app store for indie developers. Each is open source and has been reviewed and curated by elementary to ensure a native, privacy-respecting, and secure experience."
how bout fedora with the pantheon desktop?
In my experience at least Pantheon doesn't play very nicely when it's not on elementary. I've tried using it on Arch as well as openSUSE (on Gecko Linux), but it turns into a buggy mess pretty quickly, with lots of crashes and things simply not working at all. Besides, these days why would you want to use Pantheon over Gnome? It has all the same features and more, plus way more customization options with extensions if you want to. You can run Gnome on any distro, and it's much more widely used and supported so any issues are addressed quickly.
What is the point of hosting your own flatpak repo? The only benefit of flatpaks are ttheir distro independance. just host a normal compiled app repo if you are thinking of making a distro-proprietary flatpak repo.
I think it's all about the money and the design restrictions tbh
I just tested it on real hardware and.. bugs bugs bugs . Jesus, is the colors or degrade functionality of music player is the biggest changes in it??? Sad, very sad. 5.x HERA was the right direction. 6 and up is terrific
Use the command line you had to find yourself to mount a freaking thumb drive.... Says it worked, IT DIDN'T. You can't see the drive anywhere. LMAO. What-a-joke. Chugged it in the trash as soon as I could get it off my system.
been looking for something to leave Arch for, for many years, anytime I take the plunge and go all in.... I generally almost always go back within a month.... Linux is still mostly awful, I've been using it since Red Hat 5..... came on a CD with a magazine when I was a kid.... it was awful then, its awful now.... but when I went back to Windows 10 for 5 minutes I was back to downloading an arch iso to get rid of that quick smart.... like the browsers, we have a choice between crap and absolutely crap
i dont agree. they are not stopping anyone from doing anything. you want flathub, you enable flathub. they even link you on how to di it. Its a minor change a user can do even if coming from windows. If they are not willing to take their time to read a line of text they might as well stay on their windows xp system
This gatekeeping is exactly why a lot of people don't use Linux. maybe that's a good thing, but I don't think so.
@@TheLinuxCast Honestly Flathub isn't the biggest issue - there are other bigger distros where Flathub isn't enabled by default. The issue I have is that this supposedly beginner friendly distro based on Ubuntu has no way to access Ubuntu's repos (that aren't eOS specific) through the app center. Someone brand new to Linux shouldn't be forced to use a terminal to get something so basic as an alternate web browser besides Epiphany, or an office suite. Yes, if you're an experience Linux user these are just minor annoyances, but someone brand new is going to be lost and very frustrated.
EDIT: I watched a little further and you made pretty much this exact point. Great minds think alike I guess?
this entire video is just a flatout nitpick pum intended
it relies on snaps now
i think you made this video a few times before?
Elementary os 7 just came out yesterday. So I don't think that I've made it before.
Solus will support snaps...
🤦♂️wen u get schooled and ur literally elementary🤦♂️
No offence to them 👍
EOS Team: Oh, that's very transphobic of you. /j
I don't understand your point. Where is the connection to transphobia???
Yeah, I don't get it either.
It's just a joke based on the fact that with every release of Elementary the developers receive multiple criticisms that they ascribe to transphobic sexist incels. Obviously they receive sexist comments that are not justified but the EOS team instead of ignoring them and pay attention to the criticisms of their system decide to magnify only the bad comments.