Great vid, Dave! (And no background music is much appreciated!) Unless I missed it, no one in the comments section has yet mentioned the elephant in the room.....suspension geometry. Any sxs with rear radius rods will cause the rear tires to get closer to and farther from each other (known as track width scrub) as the rear wheels go up and down. At high speed in the rough stuff, that can cause the rear of the car to be very squirrelly. The Speed car's rear suspension geometry with beefy trailing arms and no radius rods results in essentially zero track width scrub. That translates to a smoother, more controlled ride especially at high speed in the rough stuff. Also, the inner pivot points on the Speed car's trailing arms are mounted lower than the outer pivot points. That causes the rear of the Speed car to hunker down when a lateral load is applied (eg, when turning the car) rather than experiencing the pole vaulting effect that happens with cars with rear radius rods which leads to a propensity for the car to roll. So the Speed car is safer because it is much less likely to roll as compared to other suspension geometry designs.
I've been saying this since the beginning of time I'm so glad I'm not the only one that feels this way it sounds hilarious I laugh everytime I hear it 😂
@milosusa they don't have good performance. Go watch desert sxs video of the mav r vs pro r comparison video they say nothing comes close and read the comments. the desert sxs guys have a speed utv and they even said it doesn't even come close to the pro r and mav r.
@@motorcyclestig8539 If pro R have an factory turbo I will buy one, but I saw them run in the sand at 5K elevation and they simply sucks. But I am pretty sure mav R , because of turbo they will be great there, just don't saw one yet.
Better be careful about showing speeds against the compation, Robby be over at your house with a weedeater some cool whip and a live chicken to punnish you 😂!
You keep talking about seeing the "bead" of the weld.... While ill admit that the speed welds look much cleaner, WAY less undercut and much more uniformed and consistent weld; your use of the word "bead" is annoying af lol. What you are referring to is called the "dime stack" and makes ZEROOOO difference on the integrity of the weld. RZR does what is called "stringer welds" which is just straight passes. Speed does a "mig-like-tig weld" which causes that rippled look, which so many people ignorantly think that means its a stronger weld. Its not... In fact if you ask most any shipyard/structural welder they will tell you a stringer weld is the stronger weld. Now years of research now have shown us that a "mig-like-tig" method CAN be just as strong if done right. But neither is better then the other in terms of integrity. Let me finish though with saying that in THIS instance, the speeds welds look SIGNIFICANTLY stronger and had much better penetration, NOT because of their puddle manipulation method, but instead because of the amount of heat, wire speed, and the rate at which they moved their squirt gun. Judging by their bead width id be willing to bet that the speeds tubing wall thickness is a whole lot thicker then Rzr's.
Pro r has navigation, electronic suspension, engine modes, bullet proof inline4 motor that doesn't sound like a lawnmower like the speed and the pro r has endless amounts of aftermarket accessories for it so your ride doesn't look like everyone else's because everytime I see a speed they all look the same and I have yet to see a rzr look the same unless it's a Troy Lee designs people aren't really doing much to those and also the speed car is owned, built and tested in commie countries like China and veitnam. I'll take my navigation and electronic suspension alday and like I said the speed sounds like a lawnmower. I like how you down played the ride command and talked up the speed cluster lol does robby make you drink Kool aid before buying a speed!? Btw the speed looks like a el Camino 😂
@motorcyclestig8539 why can't the cage be safe out of the box? It's been 16 years of development for rzr and they still have horrible chassis design and catch on fire. 4 years in and speed is already better.
@nathandowns369 speed has had so many cars break down out of the small amount of cars they have made its hilarious and the old rzrs caught fire the pro r and turbo r haven't. They cages are cheap because they are mass produced cars they aren't making less than 1000 like robby and the car is still better. The pro r has ride command. Electronic suspension, engine mods, 4cylinder engine that doesn't sound like a lawnmower both desert sxs and chupacabra have both cars and they still say the pro r is leaps and bounds over the speed. Desert sxs said the speed doesn't even compare to the pro r mav r.
@@motorcyclestig8539 first rzr and can ams had a lot of issues too. There's no excuse for a 45k car to come with a junk cage, mass produced or not. They've had 16 years to get to where they are now and have a 4 cylinder. Speed will catch up and pass them soon
@@allmotorhash The problem is Robby chose that route to cut cost and the funny part is the people buying speed cars would talk shit about tractor supply UTVs! Don't have a problem with buying an overpriced nicer UTV from the same company 😂.
Good video. I am starting to look for a side by side. This was really helpful
Great vid, Dave! (And no background music is much appreciated!) Unless I missed it, no one in the comments section has yet mentioned the elephant in the room.....suspension geometry. Any sxs with rear radius rods will cause the rear tires to get closer to and farther from each other (known as track width scrub) as the rear wheels go up and down. At high speed in the rough stuff, that can cause the rear of the car to be very squirrelly. The Speed car's rear suspension geometry with beefy trailing arms and no radius rods results in essentially zero track width scrub. That translates to a smoother, more controlled ride especially at high speed in the rough stuff. Also, the inner pivot points on the Speed car's trailing arms are mounted lower than the outer pivot points. That causes the rear of the Speed car to hunker down when a lateral load is applied (eg, when turning the car) rather than experiencing the pole vaulting effect that happens with cars with rear radius rods which leads to a propensity for the car to roll. So the Speed car is safer because it is much less likely to roll as compared to other suspension geometry designs.
Thank you for the video.
Are you still having to spark the speed with a wrench to turn it on?
How many axles have you went through at the dunes I know that’s a problem
What's stronger. The pro R spliced tube or the Speed's bolted together tube right next to the b pillar?
I was wondering the same thing! A 3 piece bolt together cage is garbage and nobody would ever buy an aftermarket cage built like that.
Both are stock?
How much did you pay for the speed El jefe and the Polaris ? Thanks for the comparison.
Price difference ?
Not even a question. Pro R all day long !!!!
Same! Dude tried to talk up the speed like it was better and when people do that they are trying to convince themselves.
Is it true your engine blew and caught the car on fire and your speed fire extinguisher didn’t work?
Where is all those Speed turbo addons? Right now, Pro R with a turbo kicks the shit out of all sxs on the market.
Haven’t you had a ton of axles break on your speed?
Pro r, no competition.
You forget to mention Speed sounds like a angry weedwacker ...
I thought it was a cow in labor 😂!
I've been saying this since the beginning of time I'm so glad I'm not the only one that feels this way it sounds hilarious I laugh everytime I hear it 😂
I honestly never cared how any engine sound , if have a good performance. IMO
@milosusa they don't have good performance. Go watch desert sxs video of the mav r vs pro r comparison video they say nothing comes close and read the comments. the desert sxs guys have a speed utv and they even said it doesn't even come close to the pro r and mav r.
@@motorcyclestig8539 If pro R have an factory turbo I will buy one, but I saw them run in the sand at 5K elevation and they simply sucks. But I am pretty sure mav R , because of turbo they will be great there, just don't saw one yet.
Same HP claims with speed. Does it go in the dunes as well as pror
Sucks about the rear seats! Have you asked speed why the rears are not carbon?
Better be careful about showing speeds against the compation, Robby be over at your house with a weedeater some cool whip and a live chicken to punnish you 😂!
Pro R reminds me of a Bulldog, It has no ass!
You keep talking about seeing the "bead" of the weld....
While ill admit that the speed welds look much cleaner, WAY less undercut and much more uniformed and consistent weld; your use of the word "bead" is annoying af lol. What you are referring to is called the "dime stack" and makes ZEROOOO difference on the integrity of the weld.
RZR does what is called "stringer welds" which is just straight passes. Speed does a "mig-like-tig weld" which causes that rippled look, which so many people ignorantly think that means its a stronger weld. Its not... In fact if you ask most any shipyard/structural welder they will tell you a stringer weld is the stronger weld. Now years of research now have shown us that a "mig-like-tig" method CAN be just as strong if done right. But neither is better then the other in terms of integrity.
Let me finish though with saying that in THIS instance, the speeds welds look SIGNIFICANTLY stronger and had much better penetration, NOT because of their puddle manipulation method, but instead because of the amount of heat, wire speed, and the rate at which they moved their squirt gun. Judging by their bead width id be willing to bet that the speeds tubing wall thickness is a whole lot thicker then Rzr's.
Can I get a speed UTV serviced at my local powersports dealer?
As long as you live in Havasu
@@richardrawlings181also in Anaheim, CA
Yes all Nash powersports and quite a few ride now shops to name a few
That's isn't a b pillar, it's a doubled up a pillar. The b pillar is in the middle.
This comparison doesn't sound a bit bias. Lol 😅
Not biased at all. 😂
Miss matched bolts who knows how strong that metal is?
who keeps a stock polaris cage?
People that don't want to waste more money
Mine is stock
@@douglowenthal1320 didnt realize spending money on safety was a "waste"
When spending that kind of money for a UTV you shouldn't have to do. Come on man
@@amyandwade4738 Never in the history of Polaris have they made a cage worth keeping. cmon bro
Pro R is the king with a turbo it kicks the shit out of anything available right now 2023-2024
Pro r has navigation, electronic suspension, engine modes, bullet proof inline4 motor that doesn't sound like a lawnmower like the speed and the pro r has endless amounts of aftermarket accessories for it so your ride doesn't look like everyone else's because everytime I see a speed they all look the same and I have yet to see a rzr look the same unless it's a Troy Lee designs people aren't really doing much to those and also the speed car is owned, built and tested in commie countries like China and veitnam. I'll take my navigation and electronic suspension alday and like I said the speed sounds like a lawnmower. I like how you down played the ride command and talked up the speed cluster lol does robby make you drink Kool aid before buying a speed!? Btw the speed looks like a el Camino 😂
You took this video a little too personal 🤣
@@WROHRC just speaking facts
Let's thank speed UTV for up in the game for the rest of the manufacturers to better their utv's.
How does this up the game to be slower than all the current utv’s being produced at 200 plus
Speed is a joke
Ill take the speed any day being a fabricator. Much safer and better designed car
Everyone buys aftermarket cages for the pro r. That's the first thing people do. Have fun driving your weed wacker around
@motorcyclestig8539 why can't the cage be safe out of the box? It's been 16 years of development for rzr and they still have horrible chassis design and catch on fire. 4 years in and speed is already better.
That's a good point
@nathandowns369 speed has had so many cars break down out of the small amount of cars they have made its hilarious and the old rzrs caught fire the pro r and turbo r haven't. They cages are cheap because they are mass produced cars they aren't making less than 1000 like robby and the car is still better. The pro r has ride command. Electronic suspension, engine mods, 4cylinder engine that doesn't sound like a lawnmower both desert sxs and chupacabra have both cars and they still say the pro r is leaps and bounds over the speed. Desert sxs said the speed doesn't even compare to the pro r mav r.
@@motorcyclestig8539 first rzr and can ams had a lot of issues too. There's no excuse for a 45k car to come with a junk cage, mass produced or not. They've had 16 years to get to where they are now and have a 4 cylinder. Speed will catch up and pass them soon
What you don't no the steel is low quality grade it's not u.s. standards weld may look good but it's veitnam steel
Time will tell when a speed wrecks to see hoe they hold up
The speed is manufactured by the same company as tractor supply UTVs Hisun 😂 google will back it up!
I BELIVE HISUN WANTS SPEED UTV TO FAIL BUILDING CRAP PARTS THAT ARE SUPOSED TO BE QUALITY
@@allmotorhash The problem is Robby chose that route to cut cost and the funny part is the people buying speed cars would talk shit about tractor supply UTVs! Don't have a problem with buying an overpriced nicer UTV from the same company 😂.
The lower boxed a arms that hole in the middle can't be good for strength either.