Votoms Pailsen Files - Tivas River Crossing Operation (1080p)
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
- Chirico finds himself in a new AT platoon after the events of roots of ambition. They take part in a landing operation on planet Roumus on the Tivas River lower reaches. The operation itself shares an eerie visual influence to the Normandy beach landings of World War 2.
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I read the comments last night and wanted to add some context to this whole scene.
The Votoms universe can be brutal and unforgiving. There are some things that may not make sense but with this Operation it was meant to fail from the beginning on purpose or in this case it was a diversion for the main force to swoop in too.
In reality it was an experiment to see if the main character Chirico Cuvie would survive the operation and be the sole survivor (and he did) anymore would be spoilers, ide recommend watching Votoms.
So the whole spikes thing isn't a regularly used tactic and was just meant to make the mission suicidal right? if so I could watch the rest if this. In universe plot armour is pretty interesting.
this movie was my first insight into Votom universe back in 2010.
p/s : 2024 was the year I got to understand the lore thanks to the UA-camr Ret_Con
D-Day but things make less sense
Yeah it’s like whoever was planning the crossing wanted their side to fail.
@@gabem3251 That was the plan from what I recall.
@@gabem3251that's the plan, they're going to atleast divert enemy forces to them while a different unit attacks the main objective.
@@grugmangaming5152damn. Brutal
That and also from what I recall, there was something about corruption or a general wanting to prove something about tanks over ATs but I could be wrong. I need to rewatch Pailsen Files again.
It was a bold choice but I'm glad Spielberg included the mechs in Saving Private Ryan
😂
Never thought I'd see a mecha Normandy
Right?!?!
This was really fun to watch but if you really think about it the enemy probably spent like 1 million total building bunkers and getting machine guns while the hero’s probably spent 100s of trillions on all that fancy equipment
Well they were the diversion
Nah, ATs are really, really cheap for what they can do. Biggest expenditure was probably the airships.
>Gilgamesh
>heros
No I dont really need to think about it actually
@@spazmonkey2131Yeah, so the heros spent 100s of trillions on diversionary forces only
Compared to this, I feel like 40k's battles make sense
unironically yeah. which is sad when you take vracks into account.
Warhammer 40k fans try not to mention 40k in any sci-fi comment section challenge- IMPOSSIBLE
Go back to playing with your toys I swear you 40k fans are so annoying
@@agimb2381 "other sci-fi mentioned in my sci-fi I won't stand for this" screamed the man face beet red with fury
@@PALACIO254 No Scifi fanbase is as annoying as 40k fans. I dont care about the XVVVIith Storm legion fighting the evil death demon of the blood realm from butcher planet 7 as the space marine chapter of the Vibrators arrive to 100000000000000 casualties (good victory standards by imperial numbers btw did we mention 40k is super duper dark and serious for manly men)
@@agimb2381 Mate I just wanted to make a joke. I didn't mean anything personal to you
Those airship spikes are the dumbest idea
Something straight out The Red Star lol
Why are they even filled with napalm?
@@eurobeat_enjoyerThey arent filled with Napalm. From what I understand it's the ATs (Armored Troopers / Mech Suits) that use a highly compressed and energetic fuel to power their machines and keep them as mobile as they are. However they are combustible... this paired with lightning and the anchoring rods/spikes... well... pretty bad luck.
Dumb, maybe, awesome, hell yeah
😂😂😂
This scene is one of the most glorious carnage of this entire franchise, and I'm never tired of watching it.
This was so stupid it hurt.
All that flak couldn't reliably hit slow moving air ships as big as buildings?
And all that stupidity with the spikes to shoot grappling hooks at? Really/
They couldn't put jump jets on those power suits?
Japanese animation is beautiful but the stories are dumb beyond words.
Like stuff for little kids.
what series is it?
@@riekopo7638 Armored troopers Votoms : Pailsen files
@@owensthilaire8189 Why would putting jump jets make any more sense? Will it somehow not be "for kids" if they had jump jets? What are you even saying?
I though "oh thats kind silly but cool they're gonna catapult the mechs with the wires over the hills so they land directly over the defenses....." and the more I saw the more confused and the more I understand why this war has never ended... *both sides are just that stupid.*
At first glance, this may seem like a ridiculous plan, but this is a test mission to confirm the survival rate of the main character, Kiriko, so the higher-ups do not consider any damage other than that of Kiriko to be important at all.
That makes no sense.
So the billions of dollars worth of equipment is worth testing a single person?
Chirico*
@@someasiandude4797 Yes, and you say billions but their government doesn't really value much life of such soldiers... And those suits are in the Votoms universe equivalent to a bargain bin mass produced helmet... This is to them the financial equivalent of a test on reality defying war luck, and a massive distraction to tie up enemy forces for near nothing cost wise.
So the whole point of these huge airships and hundred of spikes was to allow some of the infantry to propel themselves a 100m?
😂😂😂
When you cheat up a huge army in strategy game but don’t know the rules and tactics
The portable road is pretty cool
What a weird strategy with those spikes. Portable road is cool, but the problem with it being one per use
If you think about it carefully the mistakes and dumb decisions kinda really reflects the few reality in wars despite the technological advancement of human beings ourselves
One must not forget that things like these may be tests.
In ww2, the Allies decided to do a raid with some of their most elite forces.
Given objective: take a port on mainland europe and hold it long enough for reinforcements.
Actual objective: lets see what happens to the port and evacuate whats left of the troops.
The results of that were clear.
Taking a port makes the germans fight hard to get it back, wreck it beyond its intended purpose or both.
This is important because it led to the construction of the artificial harbor in Normandy.
You do not have to conquer a harbor if you bring your own
River crossing? These dudes crossed an ocean
you've never seen a big river, have you? There are some rivers that which you can barely see the other shore of, or can't see it at all - like the siberian Ob' and Yenisey, Volga in some places and probably Danube (I've never seen it).
A new generation of people here to watch a decades-old clip and make stunning tactical considerations that obviously wasn't brought up the last time we saw this.
anti mecha fans are brain dead tbh
@@heymay724 tbh it's scenes like these that make the genre difficult to take seriously
@@SFish-wr4khWell, you need context to make sense of this operation (although even with context it seems to be a HUGE waste)
@@SFish-wr4kh Im sorry you cant appericiate Mecha Kino
@@SFish-wr4khit’s just normandy but mechs, there’s way weirder in any other genre
3:48 so this is why the term" hoisted by their own petard" makes sense lol
I was initially thinking of the similarities between this and the battles on Omaha Beach and Pointe Du Hoc during Operation Overlord. But considering the in universe context. It is more similar to the Raid on St Nazaire and Dieppe in a way. Thinking on it again however... The battle is more so like Gallipoli...
i really loved the attention to detail of dirt actually getting on the camera it it being washed by a built in pump
2:02 Just like the first few opening minutes of Saving Private Ryan. Beautiful.
I had to watch this video because from the thumbnail I could've sworn it was a Ninja turtle army crawling 😂
Watching this side-by-side with the beach scene in Saving Private Ryan is interesting.
That had to be the worst assault in history, and i watched the ending of game of thrones.
That's because they were set up to fail. It was a suicidal assault forced on them by a scheming higher-up, with just enough expenditure of resources he wanted gone anyway to look legitimate.
So either they had air superiority and they could've just dropped all the mechs in, or it was necessary to land an amphibious assault because the air-cover was too thick and the spike craft were a horrible idea, also, are shield illegal or just too expensive to be given to landing troops?
Soldiers are soda members sent en masse against the enemy, no matter the tactics, they are not destined to be immortal.
Shields would be useless, because AT are the definition of glass cannon.
@kindlingking I bet the mechs on the front of the landing boats (& the ones getting to the top of the cliff) would beg to differ. :P
painful to watch with all of those operations mishap
Maybe it's me from seeing the green guys followed by the navy seal ones, but I want to picture a horde of Zeon Zakus followed by Z'Gok-Es as the machines doing this normandy landing.
Call me weird, but I think Gundam's Zeon faction would definitely do this. If not under a Zabi, than by Mc Quve.
For a diversion you would still have a shore bombardment, troops using their weapon to try to knock out the pillboxes yet side one scene they do nothing.
Oversized slow moving airship in river crossing operation with spikes dangling on the bottom which purposes was to only to act as grappling hook anchor which somehow filled with flammable fuel, I can short of understand the reinforcement tactics with portable roads and whatnot but that one...
I think the fuels from the mech getting punctured
@@chuckEcheddarcheeseif that’s true it is not well visually communicated
@@rorythomas9469 I mean later in the scene you can see it bleeding out of a mech with a severed arm
Wait so those spikes are just wire anchors?
While I get it was supposed to be a failure, there's a lot here that still doesn't make sense. Specifically, what was the point of those spikes? Like, I see they were to be grappled onto to pull them forward but to what end? It's a solution in search of a problem and a waste of material. The airships carrying them were lost and they weren't dropped close enough to shore to be of use.
Either have the airtight mechs slog it on the ocean floor or have the amphibious craft - who had weapons but weren't shooting - go all the way to shore.
The ramps at least make kind of sense.
From what I heard, the purpose was to pretty much discredit VOTOMs (The giant robots seen in the video)
In another battle, that was happening while this battle happened, there was a successful victory that they made using conventional weaponry and vehicles.
This is a magnificent piece of anime ❤
"This armor is useless! Why do we even wear it?!?" Some trooper probably
HOLY MOLLY THIS LOOK LIKE D-DAY!
Advanced tech
The dumbest possible strategies
Lol
To be fair, from what I heard this was intentionally made unsurvivable to test if the MC had in universe plot armor. Which honestly shows how worthless human life is in votoms that they willingly throw away thousands of lives and billions in equipment just to test if someone has above average luck
No different than 40k in that regard
@@veryconcernedbread not false.
Actual bad writing lmao
@@nunya404 give me more autism is what the writers were told to do
Thats the only missiom that got accomplished.. so many good men dead.. damn
It is literally the Normandy landings but an anime mecha version.
Only 1 survival is the plot twist
If you guys lack context don’t bother applying realism and just actually watch votoms
If that's representative of the whole series... no, thanks.
That's enough plot armor and plot holes and bad writing for me.
@CD-kg9by what do you mean plot armor, 1 guy surviving out 1500 is really not that crazy realistically you'd expect there to be more honestly
@@CD-kg9by iirc the whole point of this operation was to see if he had in universe plot armor so yeah
No.
Still a cool looking beach landing
So no air support.
Dont bomb the enemy bunkers
Overcomplicated deployment instead of just gettinf those shallow draft boars closer.
Actually IMPROVE enemy defense by literally erecting a mass of tank traps in front of their own troops, a mess of towers and cables.
Who came up with design?
you're so close to getting the point
Literally finding a guy with in universe cannon plot armor, its like a super-power in votoms. Its stupid overpowered.
If I'm remembering it right, the whole operation IS designed to fail right from the start.
3:11 animators forget bullets instantly break apart upon entry into water😊
Hätte es den D-Day nicht gegeben, wäre dieses Video nicht entstanden....
qual nome do anime
savin' private Matsumoto))))
All of that for a diversion. I know the ATs were meant to be cheap and mass-produced but imagine how many taxpayer funds that must've cost
To be fair this is part of an intergalactic war, there's tons of planet who need to pay taxes.
I don't think there is a worse way to plan an invasion like that. Its actually super comical how bad they failed.
If only they used smoke screens by fitting white phosphorus into those very specific wire catching things
What is the name of this anime, and 1,500 deployed only for one to survive
Wonder if they was able to recover anything both the gear and bodys
Familiar mech's.. where i can see them
How “not” to take a beach under fire
D-Day but it’s VOTOMS.
They had me so far with the landing craft with mech suits, but when the airships showed up things just got super stupid.
Well, it was planned to make the mechs look as stupid as possible. Sham operation so a higher up could shill his own personal MIC project instead.
Are these mechs not built with pilot survivability in mind? Are there not dozens of pilots stuck in their multi ton metal prison?
They are mass produced with the cheapest materials and are easily damaged but can be repaired fast (think of like world war 1 tanks)
The polymer ringer liquid that fuels the mechs is extremely explosive and volatile (the reason they wear the gas masks and i equate the liquid to the real life Azidoazide azide chemical)
What kind of anime series is this!? Or what is the name of the series? If there is one, please write, I liked it
Votoms pailsrn files
Wow. Lots of hate down in the comments here. Its a legit awesome scene with great animation and a context that made sense in universe, and all we see here is hate. No wonder we don't get great things nowadays. People are too obsessed with realism and other similar sounding drivel.
Thanks for showing the vid btw. Now I got a new anime to watch.
Much of fiction hinges on "Unless specified otherwise, everything inside your world is assumed to behave exactly as it would in the real world.".
VOTOMs goes into detail, its just that, this video is the first exposure to VOTOMs for many people, and this OVA is most definitely made with intent of appealing to the VOTOM Fans.
Is like day d but with mecha
lol that looks so excessive
but cool
there were no naval barrage to support the troops in the first place,
The new AT is even more paper mache than the old ones
It's Votoms. It's not required to make sense.
fancy mechs and airships, but no SMART bunker ordanace dropped before hand? Hell, America has the Mk84 general purpose bomb that is just over 2000lbs of destruction from air, and that thing is in service since the 50s. Ever heard of Storm Shadow? And thats what we can do now
Omaha Beach?
D-Day but feature be like:
Это высадка в Нормандии ??? Далёкое будущие.
Point du hoc mecha style
Nothing about this makes sense, it’s like a 12 yr old came up with the plan
Still cool to watch, and in universe context, it makes sense. I'll take this any day before any western garbage
Gundam
D-Day but mechs😢
What a disaster
The total inability of the writers of this garbage to research even the basics of technology is an insult to the brilliant animation and animators.
Such beautiful art work brought to life. Such childish clap trap written to field it.
Its funny tho
What is the name of the Show? Seems very cool...
Votoms
This was a pretty stupid scene. Like the one later on where Chirico was somehow dodging close range machine gun fire in his Scopedog by spinning in place. Lmao.
This is what China trying to take Taiwan will look like
People who comment with no context to what is actually going on in this anime and must force themselves to be 'military experts' because of 'muh realism' really puts a smile on my face.
No but everything has to be really super real, you don't like realism in an anime?
@@d3bugged No. Realism is boring. Real life is already dull enough. Why bring it to fantasy and fiction.
@@ikmalkamal5830 I agree 100%
No air support, no artillery cover. Didnt even strike from orbit. Shit tactics from team robot.
Х...я редкостная
Alt Universe of WW2 Beach landing 😂
Why didn't they use bomber planes
At this point they already have multirole jets, but they didn’t use them.
At first glance, this may seem like a ridiculous plan, but this is a test mission to confirm the survival rate of the main character, Kiriko, so the higher-ups do not consider any damage other than that of Kiriko to be important at all.
@@user-lk6jc8eg3r just who is this man? is he somekind of supersoldier? im curious, also the mech kinda similiar to the game i have played, i don't know what the name is but it's on ps2 from what i remember
@@muhammadjuansyarin1596That's what his superiors and others are wondering aswell. He was seemingly some sort of 'pet project' of someone who was a VERY HIGH ranking man in the military who fell to disgrace recently. The soldier in question seems to be quite talented but not talented enough to warrant such an odds-defying survival rate.
Is he a super-solider?
Is he a coward?
Is he just unnaturally lucky?
Does he leech the luck of his fellow comrades and brothers in arms?
How is it that only HE survives those total fiascos? .. repeatedly?
Those are mysteries that are being explored in Armored Trooper VOTOMS!
@@muhammadjuansyarin1596
It's true that it's also available on PS2, but this game isn't well known outside of fans. You've probably played Gundam or Armored Core. The idea for Armored Trooper Votoms was inspired by immortal action heroes in Hollywood movies. For some reason, bullets aimed at the main character miss fatal wounds or he always revives. His comrades also die in place of the main character, making him a terrifying colleague. The military had high ambitions for super soldiers who always survive and complete their missions.
Ничего тупее я в своей жизни не видел...
This is one of the most dumbest thing I ever seen with mechs.........
Animations are ok'ish, but... holy metal Jesus, that's some horrible writing there.
Edit: So... it was a planned defeat. I get it. But that doesn't change the fact that this is horribly written.
Strategical evaluations are pointless. Try looking at various military movements in the Ukraine war and try to make sense of them. On your own, you probably won't, and even with analysis channels you need to factor in bias. The point of the scene is that in this war, lives of common men are expendable. They'll let 1499 die to save one special man.
On one hand yes, but on the other are freaking slow unarmed giant ships with metal spikes dangling underneath.
That cgi look bad
That's amazing. The Japanese are haunted by D-Day. Of course, I am not stuck in the sands of Omaha Beach, but I doubt that the landing force was landed without the support of the naval artillery of the fleet. And who can explain to me why these pillars are there? Because they were on the same Omaha?
In a world where there are such mechs or something like that, they didn't think to make guided missiles? Are there no coastal missile systems either? But there's a flying thing that drags thousands of tons of these metal poles.
You'd better dig up the good old first part of Company of Heroes, there is both Omaha and Able-company with Easy-company and Operation Overlord.
And these are cadres for the sake of cadres. The Japanese, in a word...
Why would they be "haunted" by D-Day when they never suffered an invasion force on their shores? Your comment makes no sense. Not for nothing, but this is a scene taken from somewhere, from a war with a campaign with an unknown objective, as of only this scene. It won't disclose to you the full armaments, purpose or philosophy taken for the battle and why the military is content with the outcome.
omaha beach landing bad copy
Technology and equipment that probably outmatches our own in some way or another, the worse possible tactics imaginable........which I find happens in a lot of anime's now that I think about it
Is this gundam or not?
Votom is also made by sunrise studio but Votom its own franchise, not related to gundam
@@ssss.wappled2418 I see, I thought it's gundam cause their mechs had similar designs to zaku.
@@toshiro8932Kunio Okawara designed the original Gundam, the Zaku, these mechs, and about a thousand other mecha.
If there is a connection, it is that the mecha designer is the same person who designed the Zaku.
Bro if you think every mecha is Gundam...
This looks so stupid
Что это за нелепые японские технологии
English please.
Не знаю что это за аниме, но вижу что машины и их пилоты очень тупые, технологии тупые.
Хорошо ли писать, если не знаешь?
Looks like pointless battle this is why you don’t mass produce crap and focus on quality over quantity ….either ways I’m still gonna wait till they make armored core 4 and asmwer a anime
Wow, this is idiotic. Mechs that are bigger than humans are a terrible idea, because they’re a big target and can be damaged by falling over. Tanks are getting smaller and lower. And if you can get bog blimps over the target area, they could drop troops or bombs. The whole cable idea makes no tactical sense. You have to get to close to employ it and are stuck on a static path that would be easily targeted. Just a dumb idea.
This looks dumb and cool at the same time 😂🥹🤣😂
Is this a river or beach landing?
Those suits are worthless!!
This is so dumb.
Similar to the D-Day landings, but the distant future, the stoic Chirico is the sole survivor of his platoon. Advanced technology doesn't necessarily equal any sensible strategies. 🫡
If only they used smoke screens by fitting white phosphorus into those very specific wire catching things