Die-Off (Herxheimer) Reactions: Candida, SIBO, SIFO, and Dysbiosis
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- Ever wonder what the symptoms of a die-off Herxheimer reaction is? Even better, ever wonder how to treat it so you don't feel like crud when you're treating SIBO, SIFO, candida, or dysbiosis? We will talk about what die-off reactions actually are (including anatomy and physiology) and FOUR therapeutic windows for you to treat them.
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I experienced Herxheimer/die-off reaction! This video is so informative. Your delivery is so easy to comprehend. Thank you!
The education you provided in this video is priceless. Underrated video, thank you for your time, just know it's appreciated. The brain fog I'm going through is horrible, I hope this helps.
OX BILE /MONOLAURIN/ A FEW OTHERS, WITH FOOD, THEN 1-2 HOURS LATER TAKING CHARCOAL HAS BEEN A MIRACLE FROM GOD FOR ME AFTER Y EARS OF UNABLE TO KILL DUE TO DIE OFF!!!! NOT TAKING IT MORNING AND NIGHT BUT 1-2 HORUS AFTER FOOD, AS SOON AS HEADACHE BRAIN FOG STARTS!!!!!!!
Yikes! I wish I'd heard the advice NOT go to cold turkey on the anti-candida diet. If what I'm going through is the die-off event, it's miserable! Thanks for the video. So much info, super helpful!
It's after midnight and I'm in a truckload of pain, and this video is GOLD. The explanation of the physiological components that result in die off symptoms was truly excellent, and the list of practical steps to curtail symptoms is invaluable. Going to make myself some ginger tea right now. THANK YOU, Dr. DiNezza!
I'm so glad you found it helpful!! Enjoy that ginger tea and feel better soon!
@@gutmicrobiomequeen thank you. Last night was brutal. :-( Two quick questions... Any recommendations about the timing for taking the activated charcoal? E.g., with a meal, spaced apart from supplements, before bed, etc. I am currently taking D3+K2, Zinc, Vitamin C, COQ10, a liquid probiotic, electrolytes (product is called 40,000 volts), and Endocalyx (which is mostly glucosamine). I added in a turmeric capsule today. Also, is it safe to take Ibuprofen for the back pain? I try not to take any manmade meds anymore, even over-the-counter remedies, but staying awake until 4am with searing back pain from Herxheimer reaction is no fun either.
@@outoftheherd have you checked Oxalates?. Sally Norton. I had back pain and other issues. I quit plants and herbs turmeric because it's high Oxalates. About 3 months my pain started decreased. 2 years later no pain. I'm also carnivore now. I'm watching this because I'm losing weight and having issues. Charcoal and benadryl. Taking nadas will effect your colon for 3 weeks blocks Dao just one table.
@@gutmicrobiomequeendo you have any parasite protocols I've noticed that no doctors in the United States treat them except for holistic doctors and chiropractors. Thank you
thank you for explaining something that I have been going through for 20 years!!!!!
You saved my life a couple of times, thank you. 🙏🏽
Dr. DiNezza, you’re terrific!! Best I’ve seen online ❤
Keep up the great work, so hard to find good info about endotoxemia and treatment
Amazing video! So well spoken and love the visuals as well!
great video . love your casual way of teaching .definitely subscribing .thank u.
Oh Dr DiNezza you have really REALLY helped me with this thank you so much 1000 times!
Needed to see this today. Just brilliant! Thank you!
Superb video!
Clear and concise.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Peace love and blessings!
All I did was cut out sugar and whole grains. I have been eating healthier than ever. Lots of vegetables and enjoying it. It made no sense why I was getting candida on my skin and a rash. Thanks for this video. I dont have the headaches, brain fog, or muscle pain. Just candida on my skin and a mean rash around my arms, torso, and thighs.
This is happening to me right now! How is it going for you? Any updates?
@rosaday9041 My rash had gone away. But then came back again. I'm legit just starting to feel better. I've been having some nasty looking bowel movements. My guess would be Candida leaving my intestinal tract. This time around my skin rash wasn't as bad as the first time, but I had a really bad headache for 2 days and started to feel better the 3rd day. I probably still have at least another month of being on the candida diet. I miss dairy. I'm not allergic to dairy. I only drink raw dairy products, but I'm still abstaining.
This doctor is so Awesome! She knows her stuff and presents it so clearly! I wish she was my doctor.
So glad I found your channel! Thank you so very much.
You've helped to change my life, thank you soo much
You’re amazing! Someone who understands SIBO! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing it…You’re amazing 🤩
This is just a great presentation, I'm sick for a long time , and it's the first time I understand why and how .
Thank you very much.
Very Clean/informative video ! 📋📓📖📝🔍
First time watching your videos. , can’t wait to see your further vids 👍
U wouldn’t believe how long i have been dealing with this. And how much it controls my life.
I love and appreciate you! Thank you for sharing this knowledge ❤
Could you do a video on different probiotics you would recommend for sibo/ibs. Thank you for all your helpful advice.
I used Pau D'arco and good lord. It immediately gave me die off symptoms
Thank you so much for this video and your channel. I only recently discovered it and the information you provide is comprehensive and so incredibly helpful. I have spent a small fortune with naturopaths and integrative doctors over the last 15 years or so trying to get my health issues sorted. Often their protocols would make me feel worse and/ or not work now I know why and how to deal with it. I also find it easier to stick with something if I understand the reasons for doing it.
My understanding is that activated charcoal the less expensive ones can have lead; I think one of my older bottles had the California dangerous substance labels on it. Probably best to pay the extra and get the organic coconut version of activated charcoal. Health is wealth they say. All the best.
I have been taking antiparasitic herbs for 2.5 years now. What a world of absolute wonder watching health increase and weight drop off like nothing ! :D I used to get tension headaches at my gardening jobs that started in my neck. This year (Ive been on sweet wormwood and now boswellia) - NEVER a head ache!. Thank you for this work! xo
Awesome vid! Concise and informative. Thank You💪💛
Very good information, thank you for providing this education.
The sure sign of leaky gut is extreme fatigue first then the other symptoms follow.
Thank you for a lot of high quality important and helpful Information
Thank you , I live in Ireland and parasites are a dirty word , never mentioned by Doctors , everything is put down to IBS and even twisted into Mental Health Issues , I have had 2 years of terror in my gut and when eventually I went to a Doctor , I was sent packing with colon cleanser which ripped through me causing severe pain , I just gave up and started questioning myself about contamination and hey presto , I am on the mend by getting home remidies because Pharmacies are forbidden to stock Black Walnut & Wormwood, Your video which I just came upon is extremely encouraging, Thank again.
I am totally enthralled by your videos.After suffering a severe autoimmune flare,and bells palsy,and polymyalgia rheumatica i decided to ve proactive.I did not want to rely on doctors and harsh drugs.After 19 vials of blood and a cup of urine,and a temporal artery biopsy for gca my bippsy was negative and blood markers are all down.Doctors collectively told me diet would not help and tgey do not know what causes it and cannot cure it.Yeah ok well Dr. Brooke Goldner and you have gotten me on the road to recovery thank you.
I had so many symptoms of candida and bacterial overgrowth but fasting and taking powerful different substances in an empty stomach has helped so much. I did have to let go of raw veggies for the time being. But I take, spirulina, sea kelp, turmeric and vitamin d. I have had an almost like pregnancy urge to ingest coconut milk daily. I either have lemon, salt and vinegar, garlic or oil of Oregano on an empty stomach. My biggest symptoms is sudden bloating, itching anus and dry patchy skin also sometimes anxiety and a strong desire for sweets. I just have a cup of coconut milk with Stevia, turmeric, ginger and clove and it settles my sweet tooth so much. I also had to eliminate wheat and rice. I saw a podcast on Sibo where they said every time we cheat on our diet we start over because they get to eat.
3 months later.. any update ?
Fasting? That contributed hugely to my gallstones and removal of my gallbladder (at age 45, NO risk factors).
You should test first before you self diagnose, it could be alot of things
Itchy anus? That sounds like a parasite? What’s your stool look like?
How are you feeling now?
Excellent explanation thank you!
Thank you!!! Day 5 h pylori antibiotic treatment. The tumeric and coconut oil worked fast!!!!
Exactly what I needed to hear. Really, really appreciate this.
I'm so glad, James 🥰
Deserves more views. Subbed.
Thank you Richard! If you'd consider sharing this video to any FB groups you're in, I sure would appreciate it :)
LIFESAVER thanks a million! I’ve been experiencing die-off for 3 days but I must go to work tomorrow so I was looking for something to help me reducing the symptoms
I have fresh ginger and turmeric
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Symptoms? Update
Great video! So helpful. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this informative video.
Oh my gosh, you’re great. Thank you for having fun and showing personality. Sometimes watching videos like this gets extremely boring, but you’re not!
How do you know if it’s die off or simply an inflammatory response to all the new supplements? Is there a way to tell?
Great informational Video! Thank you!
Is it possible to treat Leaky Gut with L-glutamine during Sibo treatment with herbal antimicrobials or even before the sibo treatment?
I'm thankful for your channel
So helpful. You’re well spoken and informative. Thank you so much!!!
thank you for this video! very very helpful
I used you video and it helped me do much. I started back to work this last Wednesday. I was so tired by lunch. Thursday I stayed home and was very fatigued and felt sick. Friday I worked again. I got tired but not as bad. Saturday I woke up very sore, cough, and fatigue. I worked alone all day. Is this normal recovering from SIBO?
I got major die off last time from the megasporeprobiotics I took and just ordered a binder to take with them for when I start back up again. I also just started taking a liquid tincture for leaky gut. Can I take all of them at the same time?
Super helpful thank you soooo much 🙏🏻☺️
HI doc, when do you take a binder? how long after or before the antibacterial herbs - thanks!
You are definitely very awesome. Your expletives used in another video were unexpected but this video minus expletives is way more pleasant.
You mentioned several recommended supplements, herbs etc but even playing back to hear again what you said, I’m not sure what you’re saying or how to spell it to look it up. Along with L-glutamine, what else did you say can help heal the gut? Could someone list out the herbs recommendations as well?
Hello! Would love for you to answer this! What’s your opinion on zeolite and how it compares to activated charcoal?
Dr. Thank you so very much for this video. You mentioned a few things about those who have leaky gut one of those is high C-reaction. I did an experiment in taking a new strain of probiotic, I start having joint pains after 1-2 days but I didn't know about it, in the beginning I thought it's a flu bcoz right now where I am is so cold but than something doesn't line up with the flu, after 7 days I'm completely in agony, I had severe bones, muscle pain, sore throat and chest. I am so miserable but one thing that I notice better is my lower abdomen where my colon is. I wish I knew this one week ago but not too late yet.. Highly appreciate your video..
Amazing video, very informative and excellent suggestions. If I were to be super picky, I would say you could have explained common die off symptoms just so people would know if it is die off they are actually facing and not a reaction to the treatment/pills. Maybe even an idea for a future video - reacting to pills vs die off
OH! That's a great idea. Thank you so much! Sometimes I get sucked into my nerd vortex just a little too much and I forget to cover the bases. I'll make that video soon :)
@@gutmicrobiomequeen I like the science I’m half dead from M- Sibo I was prescribed Cipro for it before I realized it will kill Anthrax but doesn’t do 💩 in the small intestine. Is this thread still active? Great vid
I agree. I got to the end of the video and asked myself, did she ever explain what die off symptoms are or did I just miss it (am easily distracted haha)
Hi Dr. DiNezza, thanks for explaining it. Can you please explain how this causes skin issues like Psoriasis? Thanks.
If you have psoriasis, like I do, I recently found out about taking black currant seed oil from Dr. Eric Berg in May 2023. I have been taking 600mg 3 times daily (in divided doses throughout the day). So far, that has been working really well and is nearly gone. You should look up Dr. Eric Berg's video on black currant seed oil as being one of the best psoriasis remedies.
Thats a great explanation. Im curious if the die off phase is short
Couldnt believe you mentioned boswelia, i jumped up out of bed and took some haha. Day 4 of a herx after my first 2 weeks of kefir. Candita left my body fast. It took a turn for better today. Just ordered what i needed to make l ruiteri to impliment next. Any thoughts on l reuteri?
I find enemas to be somewhat helpful, but I also have mold toxicity. Even binders are hard for me if I take too much, but different kinds target different types of mold spores.
Enemas are amazing. The thing about enemas is you have to do it over and over until you have a great release. If you've never had one your missing out. There is definitely stuff in you that needs to come out. Maybe you already have had great releases but by your comment it sounds like you haven't. My brother said enemas didn't do him well and I know it's because he didn't do it over and over. It's an amazing feeling when you get that good release. Your stomach feels so empty and clean. I hope you try it out
Can you do a video on Microbiome Labs Mega IgG 2000 as a binder? It's the only thing that helps me and I would be curious to know your thoughts!
Hi ma’am I’m so glad I found you I’m doing a parasite cleaning supplement can msm crystals help mitigate die off symptoms???
My die-off reaction was off the charts. The first time I took betaine HCl, I fell sick with the flu the next day and was sick for at least 3 days. I then developed a trick. I reduced the amount I was taking. 1 pill was 500mg, so I had to open the capsule and reduce the contents by half. I still got die-off rxns(excess phlegm production and a slight throat irritation) but they were more manageable.
I dont think hcl has a die off
Dont you think maybe its because you have enough stomach acid?
Thanks , great info. x
My Gosh, I have been taking nutritional yeast thinking that it will take care of all the B vitamins, as per another doctor's recommendation!! And thinking back, that must be what have accelerated my bloating, gas and pain! Thanks so much!
Don’t know if I missed this, but when are you supposed to take any of those things and how much/ what size portions ? Is it taken before food, after food? During food? When not eating food? And do you have any videos about the food to eat during candida cleanse and when die off happens? Thank you
What’s your thoughts on b fragilis enterotoxigenic? Thanks
Just come across your video and am very impressed, especially with your explanations and clarity. I just started taking lysine 600mg two capsules per day. I think I may take only one capsule a day since I'm new to this. I also been reading about and doing research on monolaurin which seems to be effective to a lot of people as well.
This has been so informative, thank you.
I’m wondering if the supplement “GREENS PLUS” or any greens product will be a good thing to take to kill it and help with die off plus inflammation. It seems to have all the things you’ve mentioned here. It’s packed with so many different ingredients.
I've been taking oil of oregano and cap acid for about a week and a half now and I'm itching like crazy, specifically lower legs and forearms. Any recommendations?
Thanks a lot for the video ❤❤❤
You are amazing!
You made my day :)
Do you add charcoal to the regimen from the beginning? How many teaspoons and how many times during the day for how many days ?
What are your thoughts on Biocidin & Gi Detox plus capsules… I can’t seem to take these even though I start with 1 of each every other day … I get headaches & mild dizziness. Been trying to heal my leaky gut for a few months unsuccessfully.
Awesome videos!!!!
I agree with your opinion on using charcoal. My wife has used it three times while experiencing die-off symptoms and felt better the next day each time.
What's the time your wife would consume activated charcoal? & how many times, can you be specific with numbers of times & time itself?
@vilrugan She used 560mg after 8pm, (2 hours after eating) and then didn't eat until the next morning. As a general rule, we only use charcoal 2+ hours before or after eating. I have used it myself and it did help the severity of my headache.
@@daitilus7343 Thanks for the info, as of now I am suffering from a bad die-off whenever I take anti-bacterial herbs like Garlic, Ginger-Tumeric combo; few hours later symptoms like cloudy & blurred vision would follow up with a small amount of chills & confusion.
I will try coal.
you’re awesome!!!!!
What to do exactly about biofilms and sibo (the hydrogen sulphide type) ? I wont take pharmaceutics drugs but will take natural things, anything
She’s majestic
14:03 .. If I take Magnesium Glycinate on a regular does that count as me taking glycine? Also, does slippery elm also heal leaky gut?
I have leaky gut, parasites, and candida overgrowth and I took too much black walnut tincture and got in a infrared sauna and boy am I paying for trying to jump the gun. My stomach has been mysteriously quiet as a church mouse but I've had a headache all day and am tired as ever but it's hard to sleep. I'm gonna take some bentonite tomorrow and start back up with the sauna in a couple days cause I know it's not completely dead it's just playing possum. Trying to drink more water and took a Advil for now but I won't try that again. The same day I took psyllium husks I'm wondering if that's a binder but I didn't go to the bathroom (2) for a while and I think that's what caused this horrible herx
reaction. 🤢 I'm not stopping tho. I'll dial it back (herbs/sauna time) and will save this video for future reference cause I have to heal my leaky gut. Speaking of that it used to be worse then I got pregnant. I read somewhere that something like stem cells from the baby can heal the mother. I believe it was stem cells it was something but I totally believe it. Good luck to everyone healing. Imagine all the people completely in the dark about all this but with the average diet and use of antibiotics there must be a lot of people suffering without a clue...
Amazing. That was a really good video. I believe I am experiencing die-off (self diagnosis - but all the symptoms), because I recently started making kefir at home, a probiotic which is meant to completely alter your gut biome and kill off bad bacteria. I was a bit silly and started drinking way too much of it, rather than easing myself into a routine with smaller doses. Right after posting this comment, I'm going to prepare some tumeric with coconut oil, order activated charcoal online, and have a green tea before bed. Thank you!
Homemade Kiefer is very strong probiotic, I learned the same lesson
Same here. Started drinking homemade kombucha and high potency yogurt (fermented 36hrs) two weeks ago, now I’m having horrible break out and rash.
@gutmicrobiomequeen Going through a gut clean up for huge enterococcus overgrowth, Yep, feeling the unhappy blighters moving on. I am expecting this will take some time. Doing 2 drops Biocidin X 3 a day, and probiotics. Wondering how many charcoal caps would be good, ready to feel better. 😊
Thank you i feel like i have had leaky gut problems for a long time and colitis. Thanks for your info , i got abdominal pain after like 7 days of taking probiotic baccilus clausii..it took acouple days to feel discomfort. Prior to this aocuple months ago i had tons of trapped gas ,pain and inflammation,i took mastic gum capsules and i felt like it healed me but then i started feeling die off symptoms and stopped it after a whole bottle. Dang leaky gut is causing me problems with finishing these remedies. Obviously i can't self diagnose myself but i sure do appreciate your info. I wonder if there are tests to see if you got candida overgrowth and leaky gut
Does this happen if ive been doing rhe Fodmop thing for three or four weeks with probitics? I was foing fine then sufdenly felt like trash again. Im monitoring everything with an Aire2 and being very careful and its super discouraging to feel unwell.
Thank you for your great information. I've been herxing off and on for 3 months after starting a low-carb diet. I'm 90% sure I have candida overgrowth from a one year off and on course of antibiotics for re-current UTI's four years ago. Every time I have tried to lose weight by going low carb (50-75 mg/day), I have die off really bad. I haven't even started the probiotics yet.
Certain foods are apparently highly anti fungal and cabbage and onions are almost always associated with die-off with me. The problem is that a lot of anti-inflammatory foods are also highly antifungal---at least according to the candida specialists I've read. The cruciferous family Is anti fungal, onions, turnips and others. Every night I take either charcoal or bentonite clay, but it honestly doesn't seem to make that much difference. Molybdenum works well about 75% of the time, but sometimes does nothing.
Your information about leaky gut is something I hadn't thought about. The three supplements that you mentioned. What do you suggest as a protocol? Is it ok to take more than one of these together?
Thank you so much for this information.
1 month later.. any update?
Activated Charcoal depleted either my Iron stores or the Vitamin K in my gut cause it caused watery profuse bleeding after use. I have severe leaky gut and depleted of most nutrients. Since AC didn't work, will Zeolite do the same to me? I heard Zeolite is more selective, but how so? Zeolite is negatively charged which means it could attract positively charged iron. Yet manufacturers have assured me that it will not deplete iron or other nutrients. I'm conflicted. Is there any truth to their claim?
Very helpful thanks
can you get an overgrowth die off from a zero sugar ultra low carb diet change? like if the overgrowth is so large and used to carbs bad sugar fueling it , im suspect this after 1 year of labs, tests, etc they say im healthy. currently experiencing dizziness, feel drunk in the mornings very very fatigued, my diet change has stopped the extreme gas & gurgling. but im wondering if im being poisoned.
Very good, thank you . . .
Reckon this is what I'm going through after unwittingly but drastically increasing my fibre intake today 😭 painful!
Dr. DiNezza,
What dose do you recommend for activated charcoal during the SIBO protocol to mitigate die off symptoms?
It's usually 3-5 tablets 3-5 times a day, but I do remember her recommendation was 2-3 tablets 3 times a day in the video
I appreciate you so much thank you x
do you think-agree that coconut oil can cause LPS-endotoxemia? With omega 3 reduces LPS and omega 6 are neutral effect on LPS?
What about colostrum for leaky gut?
During the die-off phase, what if sleep is disrupted multiple times during the night? (Waking up every couple or few hours)? Is this also a histamine reaction due to leaky gut?
Important Question: won’t the actives charcoal also bind to to any prescription drugs and make them inactive?
Yes, probably! If you take them close together. But the instructions for charcoal always say to take on an empty stomach, preferably 2-3 hours away from any food, so if you use it as directed you'll be fine. (I usually have people take it at night before bed for this reason)
Thank you very much for sharing your precious knowledge. I have one question though.
Can you give example of dosing of l-glutamine, glycine and l-carnosine for small intestine healing?
As I have candida overgrowth with leaky gut I take 1000mg l-glutamine twice a day, 500mg glycine twice a day (2:1 ratio) and 500mg of l-carnosine once a day.
How do you know if it's herxing (expected with healing) vs. your condition progressing?
Herxing usually presents as flu-like symptoms (headache, fatigue, brainfog, aches and pains, feeling "blah," and occasionally a fever) vs your condition worsening which would be an exacerbation of your current symptoms. Hope that helps!
Aren’t binders constipating. Do u have to do all 3 products for the leaky gut. I can barely eat. I mean I can hold maybe a little ice cream every few days. I don’t know what to do.
Thank You Thank You Thank You!!!