I really enjoy your dog training content because it really encourages the dog and human relationship. Recently with my dog I have learned it's not the dog's fault, nor is it mine. It's OUR fault, it's a partnership and when he or I fail, we both fail. You content has helped me a good bit with my dog's excitement based reactivity and I champion you to keep going! I would love to join your online training community or travel to Seattle but I think I landed a good trainer where I'm at and your content is very supplemental :)
Great point. Some people's goal is self glorifying. It's not about how good life is for the trained dog and its owner for these type of people. More about "look at me" forever training my dog. Thanks for great video. Best wishes on achieving your own life goals.
Congrats sir, you really master the art of not only training dogs but also clearly and precisely communicating how to.do it. I'll keep following your content. Keep the good work coming
I love that you say dog owner. So many trainers say pet parent. Pets are important, but they're not children. Although your philosophy would help parents be better parents.
Just want to let you know that I find your style, your techniques, your rationale resonate perfectly with me and I am now seeing glimmers of success! My dog was mimicking behaviours to gain treats then completely abandoning any "learning" when the tests were not offered or if there was something more interesting to him. Baby steps, but at least we are heading towards my goals ( which are breed compatible). Thank you, thank you!
I am so thankful I found your channel because my goals are the same as the woman with two German Shepherds! I have two small rescue dogs & my most recent rescue is challenging me in more ways than I anticipated. I have had other dogs who walk well on leash and off, but this latest one, coupled with his dominant sister, are more than I can handle at times. As someone who loved walking with my dog, this little guy has changed that simple walk into a stressful struggle. He is very fearfully anxious and reacts at virtually anything that walks or runs by. Your video brought me to tears when you said the woman with the same goals as yours was able to accomplish her goal within a few months. I am committed to walking both my dogs safely off leash and will continue to watch your videos, but wonder where you are located? Thank you for your work 🙏
Absolutely. Such a knowledgeable, balanced and effective communicator. This is the next Michael Ellis in the making (I hope that's taken as a compliment).
My name is Caden, nice to meet you. I am currently a Junior in college and am starting a dog daycare (and eventually training) business once I graduate. This is probably a shot in the dark but I was wondering if you are open to taking a shadow/ apprentice next summer (2024)? I've been studying pet and sporting dog training for about 2 years now but am looking for an opportunity to work with an industry professional. I am from Cleveland, Ohio. I am more than willing to pay, and also have family in Austin I could stay with while I'm out there. Let me know if that's something you'd be interested in, I thought I'd at least ask. Thanks for the great content.
As always, solid delivery and great advice. Question: in your example with the chow chow, the dog won’t be able to learn to behave in the dog park due to the dog’s breed, genetics, temperament, and what have you despite the trainer having a goal. Would you say a Siberian husky would not be able to learn AND enjoy loose leash (and potentially off-leash)? This breed was meant to pull, so naturally they are reinforced to pull once they feel pressure / a leash.
You can install the loose leash walking and off-leash obedience on any dog, regardless of breed, including huskies. You’re changing behaviors by manipulating the reinforcers/punishers. But you CAN’T change is who the dog is. Your husky won’t be snappy in the obedience like a malinois. Your chow won’t be social like the golden retriever. Your border collie won’t be independent like the Pyrenees. Your corgi wont retrieve ducks like the Pointer. You can change behaviors but you can’t change who the dog fundamentally is. Understanding which is which is part of the art 😉
Breed matters. If you are inactive, live in the Sorth (U.S.A.) get a Great Dane, not a Siberian Husky. Know the Breed. Training always, but understand the basics of your breed, and the basics of training.
I consider myself a force-free trainer and even if I don't agree 100% with all you say, I like your videos and you explain everything very well. I think it's important to set realistic goals for the dog in front of you. Sometimes what you want is over the dog's capabilities for different reasons like the breed, personality, genetics or even traumatic past experiences.
Do you have any experience with primitive sighthounds? I have an Azawakh and could use some extra guidance. My plan is to eventually have him off leash trained (which is possible with this breed as they are camp guardians and naturally keep close to their people), but he's in full teenager brain. I have support from his breeder, thankfully, but am always open to extra help.
I like your way to explain stuff. And also understand the necessary of negative reinforcementt in training for better results which are also save to be shown by the dog when he sees something very interesting but still listen to his owner. However I am not sure how far the punishment should be allowed to go. I don't want to start a discussion since the fact is, that the type of collars you are using are not allowed in my country. So do you have alternative ways of punishment instead using those type of collars? For example I tried to use water. But I feel like it's a good punishment but usually pushes the dog away from me first (not mentally but he ofc goes away from where the water is coming while the collar is punishing him also for going away from me. So I'm not totally happy with water... Is a retriver/ motox leash an alternative or is that not punishing enough?
I am not the trainer/ owner of this channel. Here just my opinion based on my experience. Punishment can go as far as to stop undesirable behavior. Remember dogs especially bigger dogs can cause fatality to small pet, other dogs, wildlife, children and even adults. Depend on dogs own character (see the new video posted by this channel), you adjust the pressure just enough to teach the lesson during training. You would have to be ready to be more forceful to stop your dog if your dogs pose danger to others. Retriever leashing I am not mistaken is slip leash; is the best when it comes to last resort situation: choking the air out of a dangerous dog that ignore everything so as to subdue it. For obedience training, it's not that reliable since it takes awhile, especially when dog in high arousal state to feel the effect. So it's not reliable as negative reinforcement to build responsive , motivated obedience. That leash usually is either a subduing tool for trainer to taking in a problem dog to get started, or extra assurance tool when out in public (dominant dog collar work on same mechanism and a more effective tool to pair with E collar since you can take the leash off the collar). Water is unreliable. Some too many dogs see water as highly rewarding toy. People even purposely desensitized dog to water (who would want a dog triggered by neighbors watering their garden?). Using water to subdue a dangerous problem dog, then get the dog trained, and desensitizing said trained dog is often the process. Water dog to subdue it be seen as abusing too, so not recommended if unless it's a last resort situation. And yes dog avoiding pressure by going away from you is just defeating the purpose of training up the dog to see handler as safe space. I tell you a rumor that may help you. Some trainers got contracted by police, military so they have special permit to do so (the irony of government have their own privileges). There is no quota of police, military dog per training facility, so they can just admit as many dogs as police, military prospect dogs. If you're friend of them and have the right kind of dogs, you and apply your dogs to those program. Or traveling to neighboring countries to get their dog trained dog to bypass the ban, even top sport trainers. There is no ban on bringing in trained dogs whatever tool previously used on them. You're free to label yourself as rescuer of abused (well trained) dogs. Get some foundation training in, and spend a month or two to train your dog in other country would be sufficient to get to that trained level for most pet dog.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 hey thx for the detailed answer, kinda sad it is not coming from the trainer (owner of the yt channel). My dog is not that dangerous and he isnt that big. I just feel like that he also rly needs to learn that not listening is bad and not only learn that listening is good. Since that too often fails in situations where he sees somehting very intersting (he is a whole male hunting terrier mix, 50 cm tall, 18 kg weight, 17 months old). its just that recall, walking on leash, heeling are only working to 80% (when its not too many other interesting stuff around means, wildlife, cats other dogs) and the leash aggression towards unknown dogs (he is super fine with other dogs when running free). we already worked out relationship, make a lot of frustration tolerance and impulse control training, i also work not only with positive reinforcement (like using body language, working out space, means showing him limits by voice, body language, controlling space etc). he also rly doesnt like water in the face so that is working, but yes as said pushes him away not towards me. so im not happy with it. i dont have the possibility to implement any of your ideas tho. but thanks for the tips. i still think there must be alternatives to those kind of forbitten collars for negative reinforcement which also work on distance (for example recall, i cannot punish him anymore when he is finally coming back or when he crosses the street without permission to chase a cat or wildlife).
@@JazzmanX I don't think it's fair to expect response from the trainer or most of youtubers. From what I know this trainer's business is small. Man power is limited, so prioritizing his obligation to support his clients in timely manner is expected. I can't see myself ever run an online training like him. It's a different ball game and require a different kind of talent/know how. I forgot in last post that vibration, beep mode/collar can be an option as substitute aversion. It may still be lawful to use so check that out. However, beware that more often than not, vibration and beep mode/collar can be perceived as higher level of aversion by dogs than low pressure prong collar correction/ the tingling mode from E collar. I am not gonna be adamant that your dog is dangerous, but I want to say that people often don't consider small life form safety when they disregard caution advice. You seem to have issue with your dog chasing cat/squirrel. Smaller dog may not be a danger to adult, but they're to kid, cat, squirrel, goose, duck... and to themselves when accident happens allowing to chase those thing across the road without restrain by leash, staying indoor, behind the fence... So it's not really Okay to not nip out reactiveness/defiance in the bud before it self reinforce and become a bigger problem latter in the dog life. I think you're doing well with your training in your restricted circumstances. Just that anyone and everyone at top level in dog training (that means top brass in police, military K9 department) know that many dogs with certain characteristic can't be fully trained without certain training tools. TPTB want to remove a potential weapon out of hand of commoners. They want to make dog owning as difficult as possible so over time people just give up on owning "capable" dog, and ultimately dog in general. Simply as that.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 ofc not listening and running over the street tunnelvisioning is dangerous. i just meant he is not dangerous because of an agrressive behaviour towards humans or dogs (when he is free) and he isnt that strong that those forbitten collars are the last and only tool to control his strength. i have a collar that has sounds and water, never used it until now, . i wanted him to know that the correction is coming from me. but i saw a vid on this channel how to teach dogs to e-collar. should be the same for sound /water/vibration collar i guess. maybe i try to teach him with that. thanks again for your response.
@@JazzmanX Part of training is wiring dog brain to know that tool/correction is communication signal from handler/owner. So the concept behind the training, be it prong collar, choke collar, full feature E collar... is the same. So watch the e collar prong collar conditioning to learn the concept behind it and adapt to other tools. Vibration and beep mode is simply more often than not, perceived as much more intrusive to many dogs. I feel that you have your hand really tied. You will have to do it on your own when using vibration, beep collar as they're very dog mental strength dependent. Very few people use them even though they're included features on most E collar; let alone making training video, instruction for them. They're a hell lot difficult to condition a dog to accept, as well as perceive the pressure correctly (negative reinforcement vs punishment). Dogs freaked out in public especially off leash is troublesome. Good luck.
Do you know of a trainer for off-leash training in Columbia, SC? I have a 9 month old GSD mix. He got spooked, on a walk, and ran into the side of my knee. As a result I had surgery 3 months ago. I was non-weight bearing until 2 weeks ago. I feel like he has missed SO much in those formative months! Love your videos and your training style!
Sorry to hear about your injury. Wish you a full recovery. I am not trainer, owner of this channel. So here is just my opinion. Don't worry too much about missing formative months. I experienced with rescue dogs from being euthanized with zero training. In sport dog, or protection dog, people get "green dog" (high drive, energetic) with shaky obedience training foundation 1 year old or little older all the time. It doesn't stop these dogs from eventually being trained. Take your time to find a good trainer that fit your goal. Owner participation is still important as part of training, so you want yourself fit so that you can follow with the training regime continuously until your dog fully trained. So don't rush. Plan well. Good luck. Side note: Raising high drive energetic sport/ protection prospect dogs correctly during puppyhood phase is still tiresome for even experienced trainers because when puppies are still developing physically, incorrect or overexercised is as damaging as under exercised. So puppies exercised healthily, may mean loose foundation of obedience training before 1 year old. Also on the nutrition side too, under 1 year old, it takes a bit know how to get just optimal growth. Not underdeveloped, or growing too quick. Adjusting feeding amount, the type of food is almost day by day basis. From 1 year old onward, puppy would be transit to adult diet. By 1 year old, breeders/ puppy raiser would have dogs OFA tested. Puppy raiser is a specialist job too. Beside illness, it's never too late to start training a dog.
You seem like a very good trainer, so I have a question for you I have a three year old Border Collie, and have had Border Collie as my whole life. This one is very different. He’s overstimulated and very aroused. I took him to classes when he was younger, but he didn’t do well. So I decided the classes really weren’t for him My goal for this Border Collie is to just be able to walk on a leash and be acceptable with other dogs Because he’s so over aroused and anxious. I’ve taken this very slowly, but my goal is to take this dog for a walk on a quiet road and that is where I go. Yes, there are some people there every once in a while, and a dog will pass by every once in a while, always on leash, which I’m very happy for because my dog seems to wanna Aggress and I’ve done everything like turn around go the other way kind of the look at that game and really nothing seems to work for this dog but I’m not giving up because he is my dog and I feel as I’m a pretty good trainer but I just can’t figure this dog out I don’t want to put him on medication Can I ask how you would start with this dog and by the way, he cannot wear a collar because he had a injury to his salivary gland and had to be removed and I don’t want to harm the other salivary gland. We only have two I thought of an electric collar but he’s so freaked out I don’t know if that’s gonna ever work for this dog so please help me out if you can as good as you can of what I told you about this dog. Thank you.
Also, he did wants jump out of my car and go after another dog and the dog was a very young puppy type dog maybe six months old minding his own business so I don’t know why he did that so now I worry when he aggressive, he does want to fight, and I think he will
@@watchmoivies123 Me again. Not the owner of this channel. Remember that. First thing first, it's always advisable that you find an in person reliable dog trainers to read your dog. It's not a swipe at you. Dog trainers also have other dog trainers as friend and often ask for opinion in some special case. E collar should not be introduced before foundation training has been put in place such as loose leash walking, recall, stay (embedded in sit, down, stay, place commands). So you need to find way to get those reliably trained into your dogs with a harness. You would need to use more force to apply adequate pressure with the harness though, and in many situation harness doesn't apply sufficient amount of pressure even if you try very hard. Having any kind of collars would be tremendously helpful to lay the foundation with negative reinforcement (low level pressure. Punishment would mean high level pressure) then move to E collar as soon as possible. So if there is a chance you can possibly put a collar on your dog, explore that option. What caused injury to your dog salivary gland? You can consult your vet (better consult other vet too) about collar choice. Because when the wound is all healed up with more exposure to internal, it's strange that a collar can damage salivary gland. Toy dogs, or breeds with small weak neck like whippet have no issue with Martingale collar (called Whippet collar for a reason). If you still don't want to put collar on after consulting a vet, then here is some tricks: 1. Building confidence with box feeding. Look that up. Feed half amount of the meal with box feeding, and another with hand feeding (to prevent an neurotic anxious to develop food resource guarding toward the box). Don't rush box feeding to public with lot of distraction. Take it very slow with introducing distraction, and location where to box feed your dog. Don't just bring your dog and box feed it in public with people, other dogs walking by; before you can walk it without being reactive to people and dogs. 2. Grocery bag tied to a stick. Smacking to the ground to be used as substitute aversion method. 3. Towel rolled and tied to create mass. Smacking to the ground or thrown nearby the dog as substitute aversion. 4. Beep mode/vibration mode on E collar. Personally I feel these, especially the vibration mode is much stronger pressure level to many dogs than low level prong collar correction or E Collar tingling mode. Your mileage may vary, so proceed with care. Ultimately you need help of a trainer in person, so as to better assess the dog and apply proper training method need.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 thank you very much for all this wonderful information but it’s hard to explain who people are on the Internet. And yes I know all of this and I’ve been training police dogs actually for almost 30 years but this dog is extremely hard that’s all I can say, but thank you thank you thank you
I know training costs money and unsolicited advice is not always welcomed, but how does a professional dog trainer see someone unintentionally making their dog more aggressive not speak up and give them some tips? Not to chastise you, I'm just curious how trainers observe people making detrimental mistakes and choose not to get involved. I'd have to chime in just for the dogs sake no matter what the risk or chance of confrontation is. I watch a lot of different trainers videos and have seen this multiple times. Thanks
Training is a whole package and outside of the framework, you have to adjust and work with individual dog character. Tips, tricks can only temporarily paper over the crack. People make the mess with leash, long line, prong collar, choke collar, E collar... then blame the tool all the time as not working. So even if you give them the best advice, they mess up, guess what? You get the blame. Dog training is kinda 50% training on dog, and 50% training the owner handler on reading the dog, so as to properly communicate with the dog. So in a sense, if you see a person making grave mistakes turning their dogs into aggressive, dangerous animal; the best advice to that person is to rehoming their animals before it passes the point of no return, and never to own another dog. Or alternatively, get help training their dog.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 I get what you're trying to say, but I mostly disagree. That's a very pessimistic way of looking at things and telling someone to rehome their dog or to never get one again simply because they don't know how to train it is ridiculous and will only lead to more overcrowded shelters and euthanized dogs. Constructive criticism and tips given properly and with tact can be very effective, even life changing for people that have good intentions. I'd say most people that are attempting to fix their dog have good intentions and are eager to learn from someone that knows how to present the information without ego. Guiding them by giving realistic examples or a demonstration that doesn't include telling them to get a tool and figure it out can help produce tangible results. Pointing them in the right direction so they can find more information or classes on training can only help the dog and owner. I'd choose to speak up instead of assuming it won't help and remaining silent, but like I said... for me the risk is worth the reward.
@@FAFOifYOUwantTObozo I am not sure how many other people's dogs you have helped training, but what you say is very naive, and wishful thinking. There is no foolproof trick, technique, method out there. As I pointed out previous, dog training is both training the dog and self discipline for the owner. Something it's no shame to require help from someone experienced. A lot of people out there are not good listeners, nor open to feedback. You can't change their mind when they're dead set on doing it their ways (unintentionally making their dogs worse but for them to feel good). If somebody are responsible, committed to train their dogs, they have no issue of spending some money get proper training help! They're not out there waiting for random people giving them tips on things they set goals to do. You may think you're doing good by speaking up, but if the owner apply your tips wrongly, you're pretty much adding to the problem. If it's pointing the right direction, then so many people already done, with demonstration of what to expect of a trained dog, setting goals for the training, leash technique... like this channel owner do. The world is big, you can't help all the people nor all the dogs. And however good you are, there is a limit on how much you can do. Dog trainers have enough on their plates with the people coming to them for help. It's asking too much to think we can go around helping random people who themselves may not welcome our help. Perhaps because you're not a trainer you have free time for idling?Trainers already have the satisfactory of helping plenty of people's dogs. They have their own dogs too that they want some more time to give their pets he attention. As I said above, just because you get out off your chest doesn't mean, you're doing good because a fool can turn anything into disaster. Also euthanizing a dangerous dog is not a bad thing, when it means keeping the owner, other people, pets, wildlife safe. If anything, the law is very lenient on pet on pet fatality. Plenty of injuries, pet fatality caused by other pet (especially dogs) and those dogs are not "corrected". Why is it worse to call a spade a spade, by rehoming a dog to somebody who is responsible enough to keep the dog and everyone safe? Not everyone mean to own a dog, a cat, or whatever. If they just want a pet, but are not committed to keep them safe and others safe, then they shouldn't own a pet in the first place. The issue with pet overpopulation come from these type of people. So not sorry to say what I said. Agree to disagree.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 that's a lot of egotistical BS trying to validate your previous comment right there bud. To even type that much is ridiculous. I was looking for the actual trainer that I follow on this page to respond and not some random that thinks they know it all. I'm not at all who you think I am...for your sake, I hope we never meet.
@@FAFOifYOUwantTObozo Good luck out there getting the the channel owner responding to your silly suggestion. We definitely will never meet because outside of commenting on UA-cam, somebody like you aren't worth my time.
I really enjoy your dog training content because it really encourages the dog and human relationship. Recently with my dog I have learned it's not the dog's fault, nor is it mine. It's OUR fault, it's a partnership and when he or I fail, we both fail. You content has helped me a good bit with my dog's excitement based reactivity and I champion you to keep going! I would love to join your online training community or travel to Seattle but I think I landed a good trainer where I'm at and your content is very supplemental :)
Great point. Some people's goal is self glorifying. It's not about how good life is for the trained dog and its owner for these type of people. More about "look at me" forever training my dog.
Thanks for great video. Best wishes on achieving your own life goals.
Congrats sir, you really master the art of not only training dogs but also clearly and precisely communicating how to.do it. I'll keep following your content. Keep the good work coming
I love that you say dog owner. So many trainers say pet parent. Pets are important, but they're not children. Although your philosophy would help parents be better parents.
Just want to let you know that I find your style, your techniques, your rationale resonate perfectly with me and I am now seeing glimmers of success! My dog was mimicking behaviours to gain treats then completely abandoning any "learning" when the tests were not offered or if there was something more interesting to him. Baby steps, but at least we are heading towards my goals ( which are breed compatible). Thank you, thank you!
U are very articulate about your point
Great video, great content! Only see it now, pity I'm in Ireland
I am so thankful I found your channel because my goals are the same as the woman with two German Shepherds! I have two small rescue dogs & my most recent rescue is challenging me in more ways than I anticipated. I have had other dogs who walk well on leash and off, but this latest one, coupled with his dominant sister, are more than I can handle at times. As someone who loved walking with my dog, this little guy has changed that simple walk into a stressful struggle. He is very fearfully anxious and reacts at virtually anything that walks or runs by. Your video brought me to tears when you said the woman with the same goals as yours was able to accomplish her goal within a few months. I am committed to walking both my dogs safely off leash and will continue to watch your videos, but wonder where you are located? Thank you for your work 🙏
Thank you for sharing this 🙂
You need to post more content bro
Absolutely. Such a knowledgeable, balanced and effective communicator.
This is the next Michael Ellis in the making (I hope that's taken as a compliment).
Will have to go and sit and have a think! 😊😊
I wish you live in Vancouver!!
My name is Caden, nice to meet you. I am currently a Junior in college and am starting a dog daycare (and eventually training) business once I graduate. This is probably a shot in the dark but I was wondering if you are open to taking a shadow/ apprentice next summer (2024)? I've been studying pet and sporting dog training for about 2 years now but am looking for an opportunity to work with an industry professional. I am from Cleveland, Ohio. I am more than willing to pay, and also have family in Austin I could stay with while I'm out there. Let me know if that's something you'd be interested in, I thought I'd at least ask. Thanks for the great content.
As always, solid delivery and great advice. Question: in your example with the chow chow, the dog won’t be able to learn to behave in the dog park due to the dog’s breed, genetics, temperament, and what have you despite the trainer having a goal. Would you say a Siberian husky would not be able to learn AND enjoy loose leash (and potentially off-leash)? This breed was meant to pull, so naturally they are reinforced to pull once they feel pressure / a leash.
You can install the loose leash walking and off-leash obedience on any dog, regardless of breed, including huskies. You’re changing behaviors by manipulating the reinforcers/punishers.
But you CAN’T change is who the dog is.
Your husky won’t be snappy in the obedience like a malinois. Your chow won’t be social like the golden retriever. Your border collie won’t be independent like the Pyrenees. Your corgi wont retrieve ducks like the Pointer.
You can change behaviors but you can’t change who the dog fundamentally is. Understanding which is which is part of the art 😉
Ahh, I see the distinction. Thank you!
Breed matters. If you are inactive, live in the Sorth (U.S.A.) get a Great Dane, not a Siberian Husky.
Know the Breed. Training always, but understand the basics of your breed, and the basics of training.
Very informative!
I consider myself a force-free trainer and even if I don't agree 100% with all you say, I like your videos and you explain everything very well. I think it's important to set realistic goals for the dog in front of you. Sometimes what you want is over the dog's capabilities for different reasons like the breed, personality, genetics or even traumatic past experiences.
Great video.
I love watching your videos. I think you are an awesome trainer and would love to know where you are located. I am in Pennsylvania.
Sound advice
Do you have any experience with primitive sighthounds? I have an Azawakh and could use some extra guidance. My plan is to eventually have him off leash trained (which is possible with this breed as they are camp guardians and naturally keep close to their people), but he's in full teenager brain. I have support from his breeder, thankfully, but am always open to extra help.
I like your way to explain stuff. And also understand the necessary of negative reinforcementt in training for better results which are also save to be shown by the dog when he sees something very interesting but still listen to his owner. However I am not sure how far the punishment should be allowed to go. I don't want to start a discussion since the fact is, that the type of collars you are using are not allowed in my country. So do you have alternative ways of punishment instead using those type of collars? For example I tried to use water. But I feel like it's a good punishment but usually pushes the dog away from me first (not mentally but he ofc goes away from where the water is coming while the collar is punishing him also for going away from me. So I'm not totally happy with water... Is a retriver/ motox leash an alternative or is that not punishing enough?
I am not the trainer/ owner of this channel. Here just my opinion based on my experience.
Punishment can go as far as to stop undesirable behavior. Remember dogs especially bigger dogs can cause fatality to small pet, other dogs, wildlife, children and even adults. Depend on dogs own character (see the new video posted by this channel), you adjust the pressure just enough to teach the lesson during training. You would have to be ready to be more forceful to stop your dog if your dogs pose danger to others.
Retriever leashing I am not mistaken is slip leash; is the best when it comes to last resort situation: choking the air out of a dangerous dog that ignore everything so as to subdue it. For obedience training, it's not that reliable since it takes awhile, especially when dog in high arousal state to feel the effect. So it's not reliable as negative reinforcement to build responsive , motivated obedience. That leash usually is either a subduing tool for trainer to taking in a problem dog to get started, or extra assurance tool when out in public (dominant dog collar work on same mechanism and a more effective tool to pair with E collar since you can take the leash off the collar).
Water is unreliable. Some too many dogs see water as highly rewarding toy. People even purposely desensitized dog to water (who would want a dog triggered by neighbors watering their garden?). Using water to subdue a dangerous problem dog, then get the dog trained, and desensitizing said trained dog is often the process. Water dog to subdue it be seen as abusing too, so not recommended if unless it's a last resort situation. And yes dog avoiding pressure by going away from you is just defeating the purpose of training up the dog to see handler as safe space.
I tell you a rumor that may help you. Some trainers got contracted by police, military so they have special permit to do so (the irony of government have their own privileges). There is no quota of police, military dog per training facility, so they can just admit as many dogs as police, military prospect dogs. If you're friend of them and have the right kind of dogs, you and apply your dogs to those program. Or traveling to neighboring countries to get their dog trained dog to bypass the ban, even top sport trainers. There is no ban on bringing in trained dogs whatever tool previously used on them. You're free to label yourself as rescuer of abused (well trained) dogs. Get some foundation training in, and spend a month or two to train your dog in other country would be sufficient to get to that trained level for most pet dog.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 hey thx for the detailed answer, kinda sad it is not coming from the trainer (owner of the yt channel). My dog is not that dangerous and he isnt that big. I just feel like that he also rly needs to learn that not listening is bad and not only learn that listening is good. Since that too often fails in situations where he sees somehting very intersting (he is a whole male hunting terrier mix, 50 cm tall, 18 kg weight, 17 months old). its just that recall, walking on leash, heeling are only working to 80% (when its not too many other interesting stuff around means, wildlife, cats other dogs) and the leash aggression towards unknown dogs (he is super fine with other dogs when running free). we already worked out relationship, make a lot of frustration tolerance and impulse control training, i also work not only with positive reinforcement (like using body language, working out space, means showing him limits by voice, body language, controlling space etc). he also rly doesnt like water in the face so that is working, but yes as said pushes him away not towards me. so im not happy with it. i dont have the possibility to implement any of your ideas tho. but thanks for the tips. i still think there must be alternatives to those kind of forbitten collars for negative reinforcement which also work on distance (for example recall, i cannot punish him anymore when he is finally coming back or when he crosses the street without permission to chase a cat or wildlife).
@@JazzmanX I don't think it's fair to expect response from the trainer or most of youtubers. From what I know this trainer's business is small. Man power is limited, so prioritizing his obligation to support his clients in timely manner is expected. I can't see myself ever run an online training like him. It's a different ball game and require a different kind of talent/know how.
I forgot in last post that vibration, beep mode/collar can be an option as substitute aversion. It may still be lawful to use so check that out. However, beware that more often than not, vibration and beep mode/collar can be perceived as higher level of aversion by dogs than low pressure prong collar correction/ the tingling mode from E collar.
I am not gonna be adamant that your dog is dangerous, but I want to say that people often don't consider small life form safety when they disregard caution advice. You seem to have issue with your dog chasing cat/squirrel. Smaller dog may not be a danger to adult, but they're to kid, cat, squirrel, goose, duck... and to themselves when accident happens allowing to chase those thing across the road without restrain by leash, staying indoor, behind the fence... So it's not really Okay to not nip out reactiveness/defiance in the bud before it self reinforce and become a bigger problem latter in the dog life.
I think you're doing well with your training in your restricted circumstances. Just that anyone and everyone at top level in dog training (that means top brass in police, military K9 department) know that many dogs with certain characteristic can't be fully trained without certain training tools. TPTB want to remove a potential weapon out of hand of commoners. They want to make dog owning as difficult as possible so over time people just give up on owning "capable" dog, and ultimately dog in general. Simply as that.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 ofc not listening and running over the street tunnelvisioning is dangerous. i just meant he is not dangerous because of an agrressive behaviour towards humans or dogs (when he is free) and he isnt that strong that those forbitten collars are the last and only tool to control his strength. i have a collar that has sounds and water, never used it until now, . i wanted him to know that the correction is coming from me. but i saw a vid on this channel how to teach dogs to e-collar. should be the same for sound /water/vibration collar i guess. maybe i try to teach him with that. thanks again for your response.
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Part of training is wiring dog brain to know that tool/correction is communication signal from handler/owner. So the concept behind the training, be it prong collar, choke collar, full feature E collar... is the same. So watch the e collar prong collar conditioning to learn the concept behind it and adapt to other tools.
Vibration and beep mode is simply more often than not, perceived as much more intrusive to many dogs. I feel that you have your hand really tied. You will have to do it on your own when using vibration, beep collar as they're very dog mental strength dependent. Very few people use them even though they're included features on most E collar; let alone making training video, instruction for them. They're a hell lot difficult to condition a dog to accept, as well as perceive the pressure correctly (negative reinforcement vs punishment). Dogs freaked out in public especially off leash is troublesome.
Good luck.
Do you know of a trainer for off-leash training in Columbia, SC? I have a 9 month old GSD mix. He got spooked, on a walk, and ran into the side of my knee. As a result I had surgery 3 months ago. I was non-weight bearing until 2 weeks ago. I feel like he has missed SO much in those formative months! Love your videos and your training style!
Sorry to hear about your injury. Wish you a full recovery.
I am not trainer, owner of this channel. So here is just my opinion.
Don't worry too much about missing formative months. I experienced with rescue dogs from being euthanized with zero training. In sport dog, or protection dog, people get "green dog" (high drive, energetic) with shaky obedience training foundation 1 year old or little older all the time. It doesn't stop these dogs from eventually being trained.
Take your time to find a good trainer that fit your goal. Owner participation is still important as part of training, so you want yourself fit so that you can follow with the training regime continuously until your dog fully trained. So don't rush. Plan well. Good luck.
Side note: Raising high drive energetic sport/ protection prospect dogs correctly during puppyhood phase is still tiresome for even experienced trainers because when puppies are still developing physically, incorrect or overexercised is as damaging as under exercised. So puppies exercised healthily, may mean loose foundation of obedience training before 1 year old. Also on the nutrition side too, under 1 year old, it takes a bit know how to get just optimal growth. Not underdeveloped, or growing too quick. Adjusting feeding amount, the type of food is almost day by day basis. From 1 year old onward, puppy would be transit to adult diet. By 1 year old, breeders/ puppy raiser would have dogs OFA tested. Puppy raiser is a specialist job too. Beside illness, it's never too late to start training a dog.
Same way with cutting hair. You have to know what you want to achieve, in order to accomplish the goal.
You seem like a very good trainer, so I have a question for you
I have a three year old Border Collie, and have had Border Collie as my whole life. This one is very different.
He’s overstimulated and very aroused. I took him to classes when he was younger, but he didn’t do well.
So I decided the classes really weren’t for him
My goal for this Border Collie is to just be able to walk on a leash and be acceptable with other dogs
Because he’s so over aroused and anxious. I’ve taken this very slowly, but my goal is to take this dog for a walk on a quiet road and that is where I go. Yes, there are some people there every once in a while, and a dog will pass by every once in a while, always on leash, which I’m very happy for because my dog seems to wanna Aggress and I’ve done everything like turn around go the other way kind of the look at that game and really nothing seems to work for this dog but I’m not giving up because he is my dog and I feel as I’m a pretty good trainer but I just can’t figure this dog out I don’t want to put him on medication Can I ask how you would start with this dog and by the way, he cannot wear a collar because he had a injury to his salivary gland and had to be removed and I don’t want to harm the other salivary gland. We only have two I thought of an electric collar but he’s so freaked out I don’t know if that’s gonna ever work for this dog so please help me out if you can as good as you can of what I told you about this dog. Thank you.
Also, he did wants jump out of my car and go after another dog and the dog was a very young puppy type dog maybe six months old minding his own business so I don’t know why he did that so now I worry when he aggressive, he does want to fight, and I think he will
@@watchmoivies123 Me again. Not the owner of this channel. Remember that.
First thing first, it's always advisable that you find an in person reliable dog trainers to read your dog. It's not a swipe at you. Dog trainers also have other dog trainers as friend and often ask for opinion in some special case.
E collar should not be introduced before foundation training has been put in place such as loose leash walking, recall, stay (embedded in sit, down, stay, place commands). So you need to find way to get those reliably trained into your dogs with a harness. You would need to use more force to apply adequate pressure with the harness though, and in many situation harness doesn't apply sufficient amount of pressure even if you try very hard.
Having any kind of collars would be tremendously helpful to lay the foundation with negative reinforcement (low level pressure. Punishment would mean high level pressure) then move to E collar as soon as possible. So if there is a chance you can possibly put a collar on your dog, explore that option.
What caused injury to your dog salivary gland? You can consult your vet (better consult other vet too) about collar choice. Because when the wound is all healed up with more exposure to internal, it's strange that a collar can damage salivary gland. Toy dogs, or breeds with small weak neck like whippet have no issue with Martingale collar (called Whippet collar for a reason).
If you still don't want to put collar on after consulting a vet, then here is some tricks:
1. Building confidence with box feeding. Look that up. Feed half amount of the meal with box feeding, and another with hand feeding (to prevent an neurotic anxious to develop food resource guarding toward the box). Don't rush box feeding to public with lot of distraction. Take it very slow with introducing distraction, and location where to box feed your dog. Don't just bring your dog and box feed it in public with people, other dogs walking by; before you can walk it without being reactive to people and dogs.
2. Grocery bag tied to a stick. Smacking to the ground to be used as substitute aversion method.
3. Towel rolled and tied to create mass. Smacking to the ground or thrown nearby the dog as substitute aversion.
4. Beep mode/vibration mode on E collar. Personally I feel these, especially the vibration mode is much stronger pressure level to many dogs than low level prong collar correction or E Collar tingling mode. Your mileage may vary, so proceed with care.
Ultimately you need help of a trainer in person, so as to better assess the dog and apply proper training method need.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 thank you very much for all this wonderful information but it’s hard to explain who people are on the Internet. And yes I know all of this and I’ve been training police dogs actually for almost 30 years but this dog is extremely hard that’s all I can say, but thank you thank you thank you
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Kind of personal vieww, but I dont really like chowchow's 😅
Dont know why
I know training costs money and unsolicited advice is not always welcomed, but how does a professional dog trainer see someone unintentionally making their dog more aggressive not speak up and give them some tips? Not to chastise you, I'm just curious how trainers observe people making detrimental mistakes and choose not to get involved. I'd have to chime in just for the dogs sake no matter what the risk or chance of confrontation is. I watch a lot of different trainers videos and have seen this multiple times. Thanks
Training is a whole package and outside of the framework, you have to adjust and work with individual dog character. Tips, tricks can only temporarily paper over the crack. People make the mess with leash, long line, prong collar, choke collar, E collar... then blame the tool all the time as not working. So even if you give them the best advice, they mess up, guess what? You get the blame. Dog training is kinda 50% training on dog, and 50% training the owner handler on reading the dog, so as to properly communicate with the dog.
So in a sense, if you see a person making grave mistakes turning their dogs into aggressive, dangerous animal; the best advice to that person is to rehoming their animals before it passes the point of no return, and never to own another dog. Or alternatively, get help training their dog.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 I get what you're trying to say, but I mostly disagree. That's a very pessimistic way of looking at things and telling someone to rehome their dog or to never get one again simply because they don't know how to train it is ridiculous and will only lead to more overcrowded shelters and euthanized dogs. Constructive criticism and tips given properly and with tact can be very effective, even life changing for people that have good intentions. I'd say most people that are attempting to fix their dog have good intentions and are eager to learn from someone that knows how to present the information without ego. Guiding them by giving realistic examples or a demonstration that doesn't include telling them to get a tool and figure it out can help produce tangible results. Pointing them in the right direction so they can find more information or classes on training can only help the dog and owner. I'd choose to speak up instead of assuming it won't help and remaining silent, but like I said... for me the risk is worth the reward.
@@FAFOifYOUwantTObozo I am not sure how many other people's dogs you have helped training, but what you say is very naive, and wishful thinking. There is no foolproof trick, technique, method out there. As I pointed out previous, dog training is both training the dog and self discipline for the owner. Something it's no shame to require help from someone experienced.
A lot of people out there are not good listeners, nor open to feedback. You can't change their mind when they're dead set on doing it their ways (unintentionally making their dogs worse but for them to feel good).
If somebody are responsible, committed to train their dogs, they have no issue of spending some money get proper training help! They're not out there waiting for random people giving them tips on things they set goals to do.
You may think you're doing good by speaking up, but if the owner apply your tips wrongly, you're pretty much adding to the problem.
If it's pointing the right direction, then so many people already done, with demonstration of what to expect of a trained dog, setting goals for the training, leash technique... like this channel owner do.
The world is big, you can't help all the people nor all the dogs. And however good you are, there is a limit on how much you can do. Dog trainers have enough on their plates with the people coming to them for help. It's asking too much to think we can go around helping random people who themselves may not welcome our help. Perhaps because you're not a trainer you have free time for idling?Trainers already have the satisfactory of helping plenty of people's dogs. They have their own dogs too that they want some more time to give their pets he attention. As I said above, just because you get out off your chest doesn't mean, you're doing good because a fool can turn anything into disaster.
Also euthanizing a dangerous dog is not a bad thing, when it means keeping the owner, other people, pets, wildlife safe. If anything, the law is very lenient on pet on pet fatality. Plenty of injuries, pet fatality caused by other pet (especially dogs) and those dogs are not "corrected". Why is it worse to call a spade a spade, by rehoming a dog to somebody who is responsible enough to keep the dog and everyone safe? Not everyone mean to own a dog, a cat, or whatever. If they just want a pet, but are not committed to keep them safe and others safe, then they shouldn't own a pet in the first place. The issue with pet overpopulation come from these type of people. So not sorry to say what I said.
Agree to disagree.
@@lukeryuzaki2328 that's a lot of egotistical BS trying to validate your previous comment right there bud. To even type that much is ridiculous. I was looking for the actual trainer that I follow on this page to respond and not some random that thinks they know it all. I'm not at all who you think I am...for your sake, I hope we never meet.
@@FAFOifYOUwantTObozo Good luck out there getting the the channel owner responding to your silly suggestion.
We definitely will never meet because outside of commenting on UA-cam, somebody like you aren't worth my time.
Poor dog was openly in jail 😂😢