Porsche 911 997 GTS - values are rising
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Porsche first gave one of it’s cars the GTS treatment in the final stages of the 911 997’s lifespan, breathing new life into the outgoing model.
A model which was already heaped with praise for being the best 911 ever presented to the world by Zuffhausen
And right here today we have the key to this rare and rather beautiful example, so stay with me, Roger Bailey to see if a 911 GTS really is the sweet spot many experts say that it is. This should be interesting.
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I’m lucky to have a 2012 4GTS. Best every day useable porsche I’ve ever owned and I’ve had a few over the years. I’m going to hold on to this car for a while unless I win the lottery and can afford to buy a Singer.
Great video as usual Roger. The car looks stunning and is the best 997 I've ever seen. Thanks to Jon for letting you share it with us all.
thanks David, yes big thanks to Jon
Agreed my first video in Rogers stable, superb example of a 997 dot 2 and great music and insight by Roger too! Cheers from a 987.2 owner in Malaysia...
This is the one to collect! The bang for the buck
I think it is a safe bet to say that these will be highly highly collectable as they already are and will only continue creep up in value especially the standard shift 6-speed gearbox models
Bought a cabrio GTS ex-demo in 2011, took it on a 3500 mile tour of Europe including some awesome roads and couldn't be happier. Still got it with no plans to change. Much better all around car than the turbos, has held its value better and much cheaper to won. great car, only wish I had held on to my 993 as well
You certainly nailed this episode Roger. A narrative of Thesaurus like quality, worthy of a grown ups bedtime story. We’ve only just entered 2020, what a bar to set, I have a feeling it’s going to be a great year ahead. Thanks to John for allowing you to share this magnificent example from Porsche with us and giving me an excuse to go looking through the For Sale ad’s. Oh oh, better close, Mrs Geof is peering over my shoulder 😀 !!
it's very encouraging to find comments like this Geof, helps me to keep making vids, thank you, my best wishes to you and Mrs Geof 👍
Back in 2012 I traded in my gen 1 997 S for a black 997.2 GTS - what a fantastic car , kept it for 6 years , did 53000 miles and enjoyed them all ( added a sherkworks exhaust for a little more fun) - thanks for bringing back a few memories including that great sound in the final 800 rpm and the wonderful hydraulic steering
I know what you mean about that last 800rpm, a great car to have had in your history
Hahaha! Love the start of the drone with the helicopter "sound over".
Great to see the Blonde stalker making a brief appearance @4:08 too :-))...
Can't get over the width of those rear wheels. Lovely looking and sounding car. Great video RB. Some classy editing too :-))...
Hope 2020's a great year for you. Your No1 Stalker!
EDIT - Which dipstick disliked this video? A Ferrari fan? 🖐🤔👍
hey TZ thanks, your comments are an encouragement, happy new year hope 2020 is good to you, best wishes - Roger & Blonde 👍
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Roger & Blonde. Hehehe! So you're formally going to be known as RB & B now? :-))...
Or maybe RB & RB'sB? 🤔
Last one's a bit of a tongue twister!!
Another wonderful and informative video...........the finest Porsche channel on YT. Yours are my most anticipated videos. Thanks for the hard work producing great and interesting content.
18echosf thank you for saying, its very encouraging seeing comments like this 👍
Got myself a Gen 2 997 Carrera last year. Absolutely love it. I can only imagine what a GTS is like with an extra 63 bhp and all the extras added in.
Nice car you have there,gts is a weapon in the right hands.
Great video Roger, recently convinced a friend to get into a 997 GTS instead of a Turbo and he couldn't be happier. Will definitely share the video,best from South Africa
Ashlin R thanks, your friend has a great car !
Proper journalist here, a great review of the 997 gts lots of detail in a well put together video
really appreciate that Ed thanks
I agree, very professional work
Which language is he speaking though? ;-)
Totally agree, my 997 Carrera S was all the car you'd ever need on today's roads. One step further would be manual over a PDK but thats a debate all on it's own.....keep up the good work.
thanks - manual v pdk tough choice
Great review! I bought a used, pristine black 2012 Carerra GTS with manual transmission and all the options, later installed an aftermarket x-pipe to free up exhaust flow and add a sweet exhaust note on top. I’ve had it 4 years now and to my surprise it’s worth almost exactly what I paid for it. This is my first Porsche and honestly it was dumb luck that I stumbled into this gem! It’s not my daily driver and with low miles, I may never sell it!
great story Doug and a great car you have, yes I'd keep it 👍
Great video roger, the 997 gts a sweet spot for sure, after this they added weight, dumbed the steering and now they've ruined the exhaust noise, i think the 997 will hold its value like you suggested
thanks Jed, good to see you here again
Rented one of these for the weekend a couple months back, sport plus mode on this car is ludacris, kept up with a Bentley continental gt and also so so easy to drive. I could easily daily this car
Sean Sean hahaha what?! You’re not seriously comparing a Bentley saloon car to a 911. Kept up? Where did you drive this rented car...on a parking lot???
peter9style it was actually the a13 motorway in the uk haha maybe it was down to the driver of the car but it had no trouble keeping up with it
Hey, great edit, music, narration and all. Well done, values down-under quite strong. May turn out to be the sweet spot of sweet-spots..
thanks Trevor
I think this will become a true classic and prices will skyrocket in a few years because of the heritage body-kit from turbo with central hub and also the best sounding 6cyl boxer engine.
So buy it while still is relatively cheap!
A modern classic. Low production numbers (lower than 997.2 GT3). These will appreciate and become harder to acquire in the future.
Videos get better and better Roger. Love the GTS.
Thanks Mark, your comment really appreciated 👍
I bought my 6 speed 997 GTS by the end of 2017 for $78k, drove it for a year my dealer bought it back for the same price. I checked last week they were selling the same spec for close to $100k. Really great driver’s car, good review.
residuals are amazing
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Happy New Year Roger. That is a lovely car. Especially like those analog gauges. Sounds good too. Can understand why the owner says it is a keeper. Thanks
Happy New Year Jon 👍
cracking video roger, they keep on rollin in, this is the best Porsche channel out there
Shaun King very kind of you to say, thank you
I have a nicely optioned 2nd gen 997 S and I just love it.
Hello Roger. THAT was fun. I purchased a Carrera white manual GTS and we are going to grow old together. Mine is stored for Midwest (USA) winters and hearing and seeing your beauty of an example was much appreciated. Rowing the gears with sport exhaust engaged and windows down on a favorite winding road is tough to beat. I love the look of the GTS with the centerlock wheels and wide body flanks. Mine has black stone guards that look great on the white. I agree on the brakes (non-ceramic) and steering being highlights along with the sound. The power is such that on public roads it is tough to get out of third as triple digits are easily attained. I love the 997.2 GT3, but for my primarily road going pleasure the GTS is my glass slipper...Cheers! Subscribed
thanks Scott you have a great car there, manual box - perfect
Fantastic opening montage, beautiful ending...(thanks to Jilly!)
Lerxstification thanks ! appreciate your looking in again
Another great video - I’m just a little curious on those alcantara squidgy steering wheels? The exhaust noise adds drama to the drive I’m sure!
the alcantara wheels are nice to use but can get dirty over time, they go hard and shiny, yuk.
Looking for a 997 GTS right now, and your video has confirmed what I thought about that car: it's the most desirable collectible 911 that you could drive every day. I won't, of course, but that's the brief.
I bought one two years ago, very happy with it. Do check the heat shields, exhaust, discs for corrosion. Check the a/c works too
Nice!
once again a proper review Roger, super stuff, now I want a 997 GTS
thanks Al I hope you have one someday
Al Rome
I tried one of these and found the Caymen 981 GTS a much more rewarding drive.
But it's not a 911 right ?
Jerome Widlocher
No it’s not a 911, and before my test drive I was convinced I’d have to buy it. After the drive I was underwhelmed compared to my previous 981 Cayman S, so I went in search of a Cayman GTS. Absolutely no regrets and I never look at a 911 and wish I’d bought that instead.
@@cerec69 I always wanted a 911 since my Tennis coach drove me home while I was a kid. When looking for one my Porsche sales guy convinced me to go Cayman 981. I drove both 992 911 and 981 Cayman GTS. They feel like completely different car. I drove both on track in Goodwood. The 911 has more torque and feel faster on motorway but hands downs the cayman was the better car , better handling, better interior, better sound track, better sensory overload..everything about this car has a racing pedigree. I love both but the cayman is my favorite. I would still love to try and discover old school 911...
Damn this is good! Not only the presenter, the car too. Love your approach. Subscribed!
wow thanks Edward, really appreciate your saying - welcome to the channel - Roger
Another brilliant video Roger. Best wishes to you & Mrs B 2020. Kev H
thanks Kev, - best wishes for 2020 !
What a great car the GTS is. But when do we get more Spyder footage??
soon Earl, thanks for asking, I'm thinking I might answer some viewer questions / comments in the next spyder vid.
Shared with a friend who's looking at used 997.2s & 991.1s.
What is your verdict it tgat general price range +/- $20k?
I've watched a lot of your videos and grreatly enjoy them. I also highly regard your opinions!
Recently subscribed. Thx Roger!
Just bought a base 997.2 manual. Really looking forward to bringing it home shortly! Love the GTS too.
Jonathan Benjamin great choice
John you got a beauty there best colour deffo a keeper.Great vid Roger giving mine a blast in the morning (2004 silver targa) on the other side of the pennines 😎
thanks Darren, hope the weathers' kind to you tomorrow
Cheers Darren, aqau blue ace colour.
I’ve got a 997 gts cabriolet and absolutely love it 😊
sounds like you have a superb and rare gem Paul
now all I want is a 997 GTS great video roger
Top quality work again Roger👍
snowbandit56 thanks 👍
great job mate or the videos. do you think 997s and 9974s are good ones for the futures classic?
thanks, I think they should hold their value and give years of enjoyment.
I just bought a GTS cab what a motor !
Roger, thanks for the review. How does this compare with the Carrera 4 GTS? Thanks
Hi Roger. As a 997.2gts owner I really enjoyed your video. Out of interest, what aftermarket exhaust did the car in the video have as it sounded great? Thanks. Tim
thanks Tim, it is a sharkwerks by pass pipe type exhaust
@@RogerBaileyOnCars aha.... Thanks...... I have installed the milltek version. Really pleased with it. Considering a 991.1gts as the sound is awesome. I previously owned a 991.1s. Keep up the good work. Very enjoyable to watch
hey another good one roger, keep them coming
cheers si I will !
perfect review roger keep them coming
thanks Alan, I will !
Hi Roger! Your amazing intros😊
This is so good is like watching a professional movie from Londo. What a car!🤗 Happy new year my friend. Greetings from Houston 😊
Hi Karla, great hearing from you, happy new year, I think I can now say we are old friends, I hope your family are all well and happy ! - very best wishes - Roger
I have a black 2011 GTS manual convertible spot on review.
Cheers Bob, manual convertible sounds brilliant
Great review , Porsche left quite a lot on the table with the 997.2 , the GTS exploited this in the final years before the 991...it shows what can be done with some basic tweaks to make 997.2 cars real keepers
cheers tpmbe good point
Great review. If I were choosing between a 911 997 Turbo.2 and a 997 GTS - which would you pick, and why? This is for just occasional fun use, and ideally will hold its value over the medium term.
Hi, personally I'd take the GTS for the nicer engine response and potentially better residuals although I'd say all bets are off about holding values
Hey Roger, what exhaust did you have installed on the GTS. Sounds great. Did you replace the center silencer with an x-pipe?
Dennis I think the back box was sharkworks and the rest was standard if memory serves me, I had the car for just one day to film the video.
Test-drove one today, back-to-back with the 2015 Cayman GTS. Both epic drives, but the 997 is +60% costwise, so I'll have to sleep on it.
tough choice - pleasant dreams Jon !
I did end up getting the Cayman!
Picked it up on the same March day our Government started to lockdown, so I sat mostly at home for the the months following. And the Nürburgring trip for Easter went down the drain as well.
Never mind all of that - what a car! 10k km now and I’m loving it.
@@jondk what’s is feel of the 997 GTS when driven fast like the 981 GTS ?
@@hakimghelab5922 I can't really speak to that, I havn't pushed a 911. The Cayman is remarkably balanced and it really wants to go warp speed around corners. But sadly, still no track experiences in this car.
Cheers Roger ace review 👍
Roger, how does this compare to the 718 spyder you drove? Imagine this had a 6spd as well
*** you’re 718!!!!***
Nikos they are very different cars to drive, 997 GTS is effortless smooth all rounder while the Spyder is an aggressive car, for fast driving spyder wins, for every day use i'd take the 997.
Great review Roger. I’m lucky to own this same car but in black. I continue to search opinions re what future values will hold for 997s but LOVE your comment at the end - the joy is in the journey! So true thank you.
cheers Jamie, you have a great car
This song features on Ryan Humiston's (bodybuilder) videos
Your videos are lovely.
Hi Roger
What are your thoughts on the ride?
Was it a firm ride even in comfort ?
yes it has a firm ride as do all 911's
What do you make of the 997 C4 GTS?
not driven one antony - in the 991.2 AWD made little difference other than eliminating wheel spin
Do you know what make the aftermarket exhaust is? Sounds fantastic.
it has sharkwerks bypass pipes fitted
Very well presented and subscribed 😀
Rob i'm very pleased you liked and subscribed !
im speechless
excellent review, I want one of these but will have to wait
You should!
Porsche made a gift to the people who cannot afford the sport classic
Beautiful car
Hey Community Tours Australia great to see you again
@Roger Bailey 997 GTS or 991 S? What do you prefer over the other and why? They cost similar. Thanks.
tough choice - two different cars, 997GTS more analogue and will hold its value better 991S more refined and a more polished drive, its close - I guess this is why they are equal in price.
Of course a lot of porsche enthusiasts know this already so used example are still fairly expensive. Is the real bargain the 2010 carrera s then I wonder?
Usman Khan this is a good point
All 997.2s are on the rise
Can’t believe these videos are nit by some big production company fair play mate
thanks YPG
how about a 981 gt4 review and is that a keeper over 718 gt4?
good idea about the 981GT4
930 Turbo
997 GTS
991 GT2 RS
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Thanks for the incredible and informative,review. I trying to get my own soon,your review helped me to work hard to get the deal done,wish me luck.🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
hope you get one Geo - good luck !
Love the helicopter drone sound, nice touch. Nicely presented Roger, as usual. Do you rhink it would be even better with a manual gearbox?
Thanks, the pdk is perfect, a manual is likely to be a little bit more perfect !
i really liked the 997.2 c4 gts.
decent review, 997 would be my choice of Porsche if I had the money
cheers Jake
Thanks for sharing my new friend.
My “like” was number 911. Destiny!
Great review
thanks !
Does it feel torque deficient?
not that I noticed
I want one so bad!!
Great shots! The microphone is kinda ehh though.
thanks Karim, hardest thing to get right is that **** mic !
Great vid!
thanks Dan !
cracking car
I had a 997 C4S. Looking back at these cars, they really look dated as they where right before modern tech changed the 911 forever. A lot of this because the tech was dated in the 997 even when it was new compared to other German makes. Remember, IMS was a issue with most of the 997 model years.
I own a 2011 manual gearbox GTS in midnight blue with just 27k on the clock.Also has a sunroof-as new condition and not raced or rallied- value anyone?
The 997 GTS, as all 997.2 models, don't have an IMS.
Great now I want a 911 😍😂
The GTS had so much thrown at it that it didn't even have a Leather dashboard!
You need to slow down when you’re doing the voiceover.
fair comment
Love the videos. Liked, subscribed. I would love to try one of these beauty. I tried a 2019 911, 992 carrera S. awesome car but still much in love with my sexy 981 Cayman Gts. I would love to have the opportunities to try a 997.2 to experienced the magical hydraulic steering 😍. Anybody in london wanting to borrow my 981 Gts while I try your 997.2 ? let me know ;)
thanks Hakim, hope you get to try a 997
Brilliant vid
I’m after a 997 as my first Porsche
Is that a Merseyside accent? From Wirral here
2702simmo thanks ! yes I'm from Wirral 👍
I have Black on Black GTS Coupe MT 2012 for Sale
Paul walker tribute 911
Chaaaaaaos
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Thats my dads old car
really ?
Yes
Shame that they suffer bore scoring. Great car.
Rupert Evans they fixed that and the bearing issue on the 997.2.
@@jryalls didnt know that!
Good video, but for me, design wise the 997 gets worse with age and looks dated against a 992. I think they could have done a better job on the rear.. GTS is no doubt special..
Leave out the corny music. We hardly even get to the hear the car 🤔🙄
Otherwise quite a good vid
Make your own video/choose your own music then.
@@JohnDaly-zi8ws sod off
Got turned off when I saw the PDK.