It’s awesome to see two brothers working together on projects and having a good time. That’s how memories are made. Thanks for allowing me to watch your journey.
I've seen barn find cars where the motor was seized. They got it unstuck. Made it run more or less. Only to have it fail shortly later. Once the engine was torn down, it was clear it should never have been started. Heavy rust in cylinders and muck in the oil pan. Much like this engine. This one will live again.
Nice work John. I’m actually glad you took on this project since I just bought a seized 2 cylinder diesel myself (an air cooled Petter), I was gonna fill it will ATF or something & try to get it freed up but after seeing this I will be going straight to disassembly!(-:
Another good episode! For me personally you make working/rebuilding these JD's interesting, entertaining, and educational as well. I bought a 520 row crop back in 2017 in extremely good condition so there is not a whole lot to work on, but that's what I wanted. Looking forward to some videos on the 60 and 70 as well. When I came across the video when you bought the three JD's is when I subscribed to your channel. Keep them coming! Thanks!
My MT swallowed a valve, broke a piston, bent the rod.. I had the head fixed (broke the guide), pushed the cast iron piston out the top by hand, honed the cylinder ( there was no ridge in the block.) straightened the rod, 1 NOS piston, one set of rings, and a rod bearing... I tractor pull with it- going on 20 yrs now...
When I was a kid I used to mow deer feed plots with a John Deere 2020 wide front that had a tach pretty similar to that one. Speedo tach combo. Always thought it was such a beautifully simple idea.
I’m glad I stumbled upon this because I have a JD model M in the barn that was my late father - inlaw’s it ran but as I soon figured out it don’t take much weather to go down that straight pipe and sit for a year and it’s stuck , I made a gentle attempt to turn it over after a fair amount of trans fluid but it was showing signs of needing a head & valve job anyway so I’m going to follow your restoration & motor rebuild and try and do the old Johnny popper some well deserved rehab . Correct me if I’m wrong but I think they share the same block with ours being a 49 or 50 ? I’m just blown away that a 18 hp two cylinder @ 800 to 1200 rpm can deliver so much effort and it seems the more you lug em down the better they like it ! I just wouldn’t want to sit in that hard seat for 10 or 12 hours but 30 min or so pulling the grandkids in the hay wagon is very rewarding , I’m guessing they like it as well ?
lol he just casually puts the pliars back into his back pocket 1:30 I've never seen anybody do that before. this is a high level mechanic you can see he knows what he's doing
😂😂 it’s a holster on my belt! Has pliers, side cutters, and a crescent wrench in it! I wear it everyday and don’t go a day without using them! Thanks for watching!
The only really rare (and valuable) ones are from the 30's, the BO Lindemans, where deere supplied a power unit and Lindeman built the track assemblies..
I seen this video on my Xbox the other day and you guys don't play Man and having friends like that or family that gets right in there and gets it done shit that's what's up you got a great Channel bro love your videos Man👊👊👍👍🤙👊🤙🤙
Does anybody else here agree with me that CRAWLER TRACTORS are real manly-man stuff? I see one parked at somebody's house and I automatically say "A Real Guy lives there !" It's like walking into a shed/shop and seeing a 20 pound sledge and big ol' cuttin' torch - you know it doesn't belong to no teenage girl . . .
If anyone is interested I have a 420C that is in running condition I'm thinking of selling. Has long track and comes with an original deluxe dozer. I'm just now looking to have the radiator rebuilt after water pump failed and fan blades rubbed the radiator. Pump is now rebuilt. Located in Northern Alberta, Canada.
You'll have to buy a new key. 😂 how cute! You mean you dont machine all your shaft keys? Awww. Jk. That second cylinder it definately gonna need a new sleeve, you MIIIIIGHT get away with boring it oversized, but most likely itll need a new sleeve.
@@helvehammer7846 I have a small Homelite collection, and various other mantique saws on shelves in my living room. It was the wife's idea to put them there. Now, just to make sure she can't weaponize them on me....
@@robbyschemonia3089 Definitely remove all their pistons and rods and put their chains on backwards - that should slow down any attempts to attack you with them, lol... Hey I got a Mall 1MG with a six foot bar, helper handle and because it's a float carb the whole gearbox turns 90 degrees to cut stumps. I got a Swedish Comet chainsaw that looks like an old homelite but it has a cast iron cylinder you have to put a butane torch on to get started because it's a carbureted diesel 2-stroke. Slow, stinky, heavy - but you never have to mix gas, lol. I heard the Soviets made tens of thousands of word-for-word copies of them. I got a Homelite XL-15 which is a -12 with planetary gear reduction. And a McCulloch Mac 10-10S which had a ni-cad pack in the handle and a powerful starter motor made into the flywheel. AND a bunch of old Poulans . . .
@@helvehammer7846 I've also got a 1mg, but it's only got a 30" on it, I've got a BUNCH of different mac 10-10s, and a few 11-10s, and I've been looking high and low for an electric start one. Lucky... I'd love to see that diesel guy in action. I need to get another camera so I can upload some more antique power equipment videos here on the youtubler. I've also got a super cool 1950 sea king 5hp outboard that starts on literally the first pull. All original, except for the ignition system that's just new OE OMC "universal ignition components". The older OMC motors, Johnson, evinrude, and a whole slew of Montgomery-Wards motors from the little 2hp singles all the way up to the big 50hp outboard motors used the same coils, points, and condensers up until the 80s. Just a little factoid for ya there om that one. I've got a couple videos on my channel of it and some other outdoor power equipment on my channel right now.
@@robbyschemonia3089 My Dad's identical twin brother was Lawnboy's Chief Engineer. ua-cam.com/video/MdjyBuxNkkA/v-deo.html In WWII he invented the airport water cannon Crash Truck. Navy put him through the V12 program (engineering) at Rice University. Postwar he designed a 2-cycle for Propulsion Engines, Fairfax Kansas. Those were used on Roto Power Mower wooden-deck mowers. If you see a REALLY old Lawnboy it will say "RPM-LawnBoy" on it. When OMC bought RPM at first they bought Power Products engines. Those were the "A" model LB engines. My Uncle had to call PP and tell them they couldn't supply enough engines and (since OMC was 10 times bigger) they were going to clone their engines for one model year until their own design was ready. "B" model LB engines had the OMC mag and carb but otherwise were identical. The "C" engine was Uncle's design using same mag and carb but otherwise all new. Uncle designed the later D Series and also the F - but he passed on in '75 before they hit the market. Unc was also Chief Engineer for Beard, Poulan and Weedeater at time of passing. Here is comet saw starting up but they don't show the guy heating the cylinder with a blowtorch: ua-cam.com/video/y6yt2DgBguo/v-deo.html Here's another one running and smoking but not cutting (they are SLOW) ua-cam.com/video/hXR3ZOPlRys/v-deo.html Here is a real shorty vid but the guy IS heating the head: ua-cam.com/video/g_Ci4AvfaEM/v-deo.html I find it odd that nobody has video of the Soviet copy of the Comet. In real life I have seen 6 or 7 of them (all cyrillic letters - can't read a word of it) but before UA-cam I'd never seen another diesel Comet. Also - today I learned that Jonsered made diesel saws - never knew that before. My favorite chainsaw isn't a chainsaw - it's an old concrete saw made by Partner with the old Partner R12 saw engine. Mine swings a 14 carbide wheel pretty d**n fast and torque-y as well. Plus I just love to hear the old thing run (Partner's Chief Engineer then was Walter Kaden of East Germany) and especially that "Old School Two Stroke Motorcycle Idle-Sound" ua-cam.com/video/46W2X40tYuQ/v-deo.html There are a bunch of videos of R12s. Look at one being repaired and maybe you will see they don't have read valves but "automatic inlet valves" that I think are possibly unique. Nice Chatting At You !
Just get new sleeves machined and pressed into the block for Christ's take. You're just setting yourself up for problems. Especially if you plan on keeping this thing forever.
It’s awesome to see two brothers working together on projects and having a good time. That’s how memories are made. Thanks for allowing me to watch your journey.
Great to see you guys work together...
Thanks for watching John, we have a lot of fun. Hopefully this will be reassembled in the next few weeks. 🍻
Appreciate watching you guys work together...You know your stuff.
I've seen barn find cars where the motor was seized. They got it unstuck. Made it run more or less. Only to have it fail shortly later. Once the engine was torn down, it was clear it should never have been started. Heavy rust in cylinders and muck in the oil pan. Much like this engine. This one will live again.
Nice work John. I’m actually glad you took on this project since I just bought a seized 2 cylinder diesel myself (an air cooled Petter), I was gonna fill it will ATF or something & try to get it freed up but after seeing this I will be going straight to disassembly!(-:
This is great, saving another classic machine.
I can’t wait until I see it running!
Another good episode! For me personally you make working/rebuilding these JD's interesting, entertaining, and educational as well. I bought a 520 row crop back in 2017 in extremely good condition so there is not a whole lot to work on, but that's what I wanted. Looking forward to some videos on the 60 and 70 as well. When I came across the video when you bought the three JD's is when I subscribed to your channel. Keep them coming! Thanks!
Love seeing this getting done
Thanks for the great content! Can't wait to watch it run again.
Wish he would make another video on it
Nice work, I’m hoping it cleans up at .125. Can’t wait to hear it run.
I have to warn you restoring old tractors can get quite addictive.
ya my brothers are at about 27 old tractors now
73buickman Do some videos of your bros tractor projects
@@rustyrelicsfarm2406 vintage farming by John schlorf
This is a really good episode JR
My MT swallowed a valve, broke a piston, bent the rod.. I had the head fixed (broke the guide), pushed the cast iron piston out the top by hand, honed the cylinder ( there was no ridge in the block.) straightened the rod, 1 NOS piston, one set of rings, and a rod bearing... I tractor pull with it- going on 20 yrs now...
Was waiting for this one!!! Ouch that cylinder hurt
Great content JR, this stuff is really interesting to watch. I hope one of the networks picks you up someday.
Can't wait to see that old girl running, may be green bit it's a beautiful machine!
That‘s inkledible that you need so much work for such an cool vehicle!
Green Iron a Farmer's Dream Machine.
When I was a kid I used to mow deer feed plots with a John Deere 2020 wide front that had a tach pretty similar to that one. Speedo tach combo. Always thought it was such a beautifully simple idea.
A call to the gentleman at JD crawlers could save you guys a lot of head scratching
I’m glad I stumbled upon this because I have a JD model M in the barn that was my late father - inlaw’s it ran but as I soon figured out it don’t take much weather to go down that straight pipe and sit for a year and it’s stuck , I made a gentle attempt to turn it over after a fair amount of trans fluid but it was showing signs of needing a head & valve job anyway so I’m going to follow your restoration & motor rebuild and try and do the old Johnny popper some well deserved rehab . Correct me if I’m wrong but I think they share the same block with ours being a 49 or 50 ? I’m just blown away that a 18 hp two cylinder @ 800 to 1200 rpm can deliver so much effort and it seems the more you lug em down the better they like it ! I just wouldn’t want to sit in that hard seat for 10 or 12 hours but 30 min or so pulling the grandkids in the hay wagon is very rewarding , I’m guessing they like it as well ?
Not going to lie, the tach drive reminded me of the bolt assembly of an M16.
wondered why you went to Old Threshers. Definitely should do a few more of these old tractor builds
Look at the new Workbench !!
You should do an "about" video...like how did you get into motorcycles, cars (unusual ones in particular) and especially old tractors.
Scott Gephart we were riding motorcycles and driving tractors with dad before we could walk!! Cars just came natural.
@@watchjaredwork1487 nice to know that. Thanks for sharing that...much appreciated.
Where would you be without your Brother's tools? Gages do look nice, not showroom new but authentic!
AKWayne S he’s got plenty of tools just not in that shop.
I really do need that giant Milwaukee impact! Going to pull all the gauges and send them out for restoration, make them pristine 🍻
Multiple videos and I haven’t seen one 420 joke. You’re missing a real opportunity my friend.
I really wanted to put 420 blaze it in the intro every time 😂
lol he just casually puts the pliars back into his back pocket 1:30 I've never seen anybody do that before. this is a high level mechanic you can see he knows what he's doing
😂😂 it’s a holster on my belt! Has pliers, side cutters, and a crescent wrench in it! I wear it everyday and don’t go a day without using them! Thanks for watching!
This is a really cool project thank you I did not know John Deere made a crawler did they make a lot of them are they hard to fine
Bill Brown 17882 420c where built
J d made thousands
The only really rare (and valuable) ones are from the 30's, the BO Lindemans, where deere supplied a power unit and Lindeman built the track assemblies..
Will we ever see this thing again? Or has the project been quietly laid to rest?
I honestly didn't think that cylinder was going to come out. I hope the water pump comes off
demonchild 74 it’s off. Little more persuading.
I would suggest a look at the inside of the transmission given the condition of the engine .
Ralph Snow oh we’ll get there don’t worry
Don't worry, every real engine builder uses head bolt for the engine stand wrist pin. That's how you know you can trust them.
Check with All States Ag, you can get a complete rebuild kit for it
Guys you need a special tool for that job if I remember correctly you really don't need it but it's a pain in the ass.
More progress! Im excited to see this thing running again! Oh by the way are the hydraulic arms stuck by any chance?
Aces!
I seen this video on my Xbox the other day and you guys don't play Man and having friends like that or family that gets right in there and gets it done shit that's what's up you got a great Channel bro love your videos Man👊👊👍👍🤙👊🤙🤙
Does anybody else here agree with me that CRAWLER TRACTORS are real manly-man stuff?
I see one parked at somebody's house and I automatically say "A Real Guy lives there !"
It's like walking into a shed/shop and seeing a 20 pound sledge and big ol' cuttin' torch - you know it doesn't belong to no teenage girl . . .
Just curious what do you work on in that workshop ? Got lots of forklifts , besides love your tractor work I do lots of old restoration good job guys
Oh yeah yeah
Now THAT’S rust.
Tons of it, the cylinder was growing 😂
@@WatchJRGo Hahahaha
If anyone is interested I have a 420C that is in running condition I'm thinking of selling. Has long track and comes with an original deluxe dozer. I'm just now looking to have the radiator rebuilt after water pump failed and fan blades rubbed the radiator. Pump is now rebuilt. Located in Northern Alberta, Canada.
If I were you I would paint the track cleats yellow that looks really nice how's the tractor with the corn picker
Pontiac Fiero
Coming soon! It’s outside and the ground is too wet 🍻
How is the 420c going? Has it been put on the back burner for a while?
When are you gonna do a another video about the fireo?
paint it yellow like it is suppost to be if you can
Waiting to hear what it’s supposed to be, I ordered the research to be sure! 🍻 (I hope it’s an industrial)
Are you going to add a turbo to it
that dump of oil/sludge must have grossed you out.
Are the gaskets , rings and bearings hard to come by ? I've an old crawler here much the same but with a blade that's in need of a bit of a rebuild.
landlife m John Deere will sell you pretty much all of it and what they don’t is available in the aftermarket.
I'm not real versed in 2cyl deere internals even though I have a JD 60.
Do those motors have sleeves?
wreckandraceify originally, no.
What is the deal with that COLOSSAL FORKLIFT in the background?? You guys restoring mine trucks???
Jeff Eastman nope we use it. It was ugly when we bought it.
When is the new video uploading?
They sell a nice led headlamp rechargable on eBay that will run for about three hrs and it won't hurt your teeth less than 20 bucks
Michael Guy I have plenty of headlamps. My flashlight stays in my pocket, it’s much more convenient, my teeth have seen worse lol
Haha, I came here to say he has one and doesn’t use it 😂
You'll have to buy a new key. 😂 how cute! You mean you dont machine all your shaft keys? Awww. Jk. That second cylinder it definately gonna need a new sleeve, you MIIIIIGHT get away with boring it oversized, but most likely itll need a new sleeve.
Where did you put that set screw for the oil pump?????...bet its gone to that place where all important screws and bolts end up going!
bill nalder I put it back in the block lol 👌🏻 all bolts are bagged and labeled. Been there done that.
Same place the odd sock from the dryer ends up....the Twilight Zone. Maybe even in the 5th dimension. 👍👍
Some of us out here in the comment section would still like to see this elusive family Homelite collection you have... just sayin...
Yes - *UNLEASH THE HOMELITES !!!*
@@helvehammer7846 I have a small Homelite collection, and various other mantique saws on shelves in my living room. It was the wife's idea to put them there. Now, just to make sure she can't weaponize them on me....
@@robbyschemonia3089 Definitely remove all their pistons and rods and put their chains on backwards - that should slow down any attempts to attack you with them, lol...
Hey I got a Mall 1MG with a six foot bar, helper handle and because it's a float carb the whole gearbox turns 90 degrees to cut stumps. I got a Swedish Comet chainsaw that looks like an old homelite but it has a cast iron cylinder you have to put a butane torch on to get started because it's a carbureted diesel 2-stroke. Slow, stinky, heavy - but you never have to mix gas, lol. I heard the Soviets made tens of thousands of word-for-word copies of them. I got a Homelite XL-15 which is a -12 with planetary gear reduction. And a McCulloch Mac 10-10S which had a ni-cad pack in the handle and a powerful starter motor made into the flywheel. AND a bunch of old Poulans . . .
@@helvehammer7846 I've also got a 1mg, but it's only got a 30" on it, I've got a BUNCH of different mac 10-10s, and a few 11-10s, and I've been looking high and low for an electric start one. Lucky...
I'd love to see that diesel guy in action. I need to get another camera so I can upload some more antique power equipment videos here on the youtubler. I've also got a super cool 1950 sea king 5hp outboard that starts on literally the first pull. All original, except for the ignition system that's just new OE OMC "universal ignition components". The older OMC motors, Johnson, evinrude, and a whole slew of Montgomery-Wards motors from the little 2hp singles all the way up to the big 50hp outboard motors used the same coils, points, and condensers up until the 80s. Just a little factoid for ya there om that one. I've got a couple videos on my channel of it and some other outdoor power equipment on my channel right now.
@@robbyschemonia3089 My Dad's identical twin brother was Lawnboy's Chief Engineer.
ua-cam.com/video/MdjyBuxNkkA/v-deo.html
In WWII he invented the airport water cannon Crash Truck. Navy put him through the V12 program (engineering) at Rice University. Postwar he designed a 2-cycle for Propulsion Engines, Fairfax Kansas.
Those were used on Roto Power Mower wooden-deck mowers. If you see a REALLY old Lawnboy it will say "RPM-LawnBoy" on it. When OMC bought RPM at first they bought Power Products engines. Those were the "A" model LB engines. My Uncle had to call PP and tell them they couldn't supply enough engines and (since OMC was 10 times bigger) they were going to clone their engines for one model year until their own design was ready. "B" model LB engines had the OMC mag and carb but otherwise were identical. The "C" engine was Uncle's design using same mag and carb but otherwise all new. Uncle designed the later D Series and also the F - but he passed on in '75 before they hit the market.
Unc was also Chief Engineer for Beard, Poulan and Weedeater at time of passing.
Here is comet saw starting up but they don't show the guy heating the cylinder with a blowtorch: ua-cam.com/video/y6yt2DgBguo/v-deo.html
Here's another one running and smoking but not cutting (they are SLOW)
ua-cam.com/video/hXR3ZOPlRys/v-deo.html
Here is a real shorty vid but the guy IS heating the head:
ua-cam.com/video/g_Ci4AvfaEM/v-deo.html
I find it odd that nobody has video of the Soviet copy of the Comet. In real life I have seen 6 or 7 of them (all cyrillic letters - can't read a word of it) but before UA-cam I'd never seen another diesel Comet. Also - today I learned that Jonsered made diesel saws - never knew that before.
My favorite chainsaw isn't a chainsaw - it's an old concrete saw made by Partner with the old Partner R12 saw engine. Mine swings a 14 carbide wheel pretty d**n fast and torque-y as well. Plus I just love to hear the old thing run (Partner's Chief Engineer then was Walter Kaden of East Germany) and especially that "Old School Two Stroke Motorcycle Idle-Sound"
ua-cam.com/video/46W2X40tYuQ/v-deo.html
There are a bunch of videos of R12s. Look at one being repaired and maybe you will see they don't have read valves but "automatic inlet valves" that I think are possibly unique.
Nice Chatting At You !
Please let us know what happened to this project
wow i thought id be worse
Nothing like wearing an $95 hoodie to dismantle an engine.....
It never gets dirty. How that happens I do not know.
So, whatever happened to this 420?
Just get new sleeves machined and pressed into the block for Christ's take. You're just setting yourself up for problems. Especially if you plan on keeping this thing forever.
that jd engine has no sleeves. but they do make .090 and .100 over pistons for realy bad bores. i have done many of these over the years.
Stop filming your head, and point that camera towards engine little bit more, ffs..