@@pianomosaic yeah I agree, Schumanns pieces are alot more comforting and warm but with ravel although what he’s composed it beautiful (like Schumann) with him it makes me feel almost nostalgic and well empty - I don’t know how else to describe it 😂 at about 0:26 especially it just makes me feel alone and full of nothing
@@ojcksn It's funny you say nostalgic because I used that word exactly back in college once and the faculty chuckled at the thought that Ravel would have that. It's certainly unlikely he was going for it. That sense of emptiness and loneliness suits this piece though. It conveys the wide ocean in lots of ways. A friend of mine once also said that Ravel's beauty is a "cold beauty" comparing it with Chopin. It's certainly a less personal beauty and more a poetic impression of ambience. Less human perhaps.
thats the perfect description of how a lot of his music makes me feel!! A hollow emotion to his music. Different to people like Chopin or Schubert who target emotions directly; rather it's far more ambiguous and perhaps slightly unsettling
It's a very rewarding life goal :) I'm currently working on something else but if many people ask me about a tutorial for a piece, that will certainly encourage me to make one.
I luuuuve this piece, actually I’m practicing this at the moment and somehow it’s not that hard and at the same time it’s very tricky... nice performance and just by looking I’ve get some really good tips from you. Thanks a lot.
@@pianomosaic That sounds fantastic, do you have a very quick answer as to how you brought out the #g in the left hand arpeggios? It gets very subdued when I try.
@@pianomosaic Thanks for your swift response, if I haven‘t completely lost the plot the accented left hand note (en dehors) in the fourth bar is the #g I‘m referring to.
@@Test-zd4mp Ah of course. I should have realized. I presume you play it with the thumb, right? How do you normally bring out some notes over others? I use some clockwise rotation in the left hand with the movement of reaching over to the next note. That way the thumb gets a lot more weight behind it than the other fingers. Have you tried just playing the first four notes in the left hand (F# C# E G#) and stopping there?
my favourite piano piece ever and you played it soooo beautifully and you give such great advice in the comments thank you so much i appreciate it to much
Thank you! This became my favourite Piano piece! I'm a medium player (Henle level 5/6) so I'm struggling with arabesque 2 (Debussy) and fantaisie-impromptu. I hope one day to get the skills to play this (I know that the dynamics and the story requests like years to master)
I was hoping to see this piece on your channel, and then I found it!! I really like how you play Ravel's piano pieces. They are so clear and beautiful. Also may I ask how long you took to master this one?
Hey thanks! I'll let you know when I'm done mastering it - hopefully in a few decades or so. But this recording I prepared in a few months. Looking back now I'm surprised it didn't take longer. I do remember working hard at it though.
Beautiful playing! Up there with my recordings by Collard, Thibaudet and Tharaud (all Frensh pianists interestingly enough). Great tutorial too. I learned this during pandemic, it was the most difficult piece I mastered (then went on to "Chasse Neige"!). I'll be looking at your suggestions for that difficult middle section with the right hand broken chords before the deluge of arpeggios. My hands get tired at that point. Good thing Ravel has written in a lot of "resting" spots for the hands in this piece. Unlike "Jeux d' Eau or "Ondine", which is just relentless. Thanks again, I'm a subscriber now!
Wow thanks! It's a very rewarding piece I find. And yes it seems a bit more forgiving than the other two you mentioned. Well good luck. I hope it helps.
Sends shivers down my spine (in a great way)!!!!!! Have you ever played Liszt's "Trois études de concert", specifically No. 3, "Un sospiro"? This piece kinda reminds me of that (probably 'cos of the arpeggios), but I think that you would do an absolutely superb job at playing that beautiful piece!
I'm hoping to have mastered it in about 140 years. I remember starting this early February 2017 and recorded it end of March but it seems longer than that. I do remember practicing it a LOT. Countless hours. I find this kind of Ravel the most difficult type of piano music.
Hi, im currently learning this piece and im having some trouble with speed of the tremolos in the right hand in any of the 3 big waves (especially the second). Do you have any tips or do i just practice a lot more? Thank you.
Yes I also found those difficult. I can't remember now if I discuss these in the tutorial video so perhaps check that out if you haven't yet. I remember the 1st and last I had to play around with various fingerings. On the 2nd theres not much choice. Do you have difficulties with tremolos or trills in general or is it just these? One thing that helps is to not aim for speed but just consistency and quality of sound. Then you can focus on the left hand for the dynamic swing and wave effect. That's a mental compoment. Once you're no longer trying to play fast, it ironically becomes easier to let it get faster.
The time signatures are so complicated and out of place. Its 3/4 in some places but goes past the 3 beat. Such a complex piece im sure even Ravel had difficulties. Such dense figurations and lavish notes. "Too much notes" can for sure apply to this. Makes sense though as its a musical painting of a boat sailing over an ocean, with turbulent seas and calming waves
@@thekathal oh, ive read through the pages on that one. Scarbo gives me nightmares out of the whole set. Very technical; scales, repeated notes, octave jumping, quick shifts in musical motifs, constant movement. I believe Ravels father was an egineer of sorts, his mother of Basque heritage; so it makes sense why he is why he is. One of my favorite comoosers
Following the previous comment, a tutorial or partial tutorial would be greatly appreciated! Also, would you recommend learning this or Ravel's Jeux D'eau? Which is the harder of the two to learn? Thanks!
It's still on my list of things to do but I can't promise when it'll be done. Oh boy that's hard to say. I'm sitting here trying to decide. They're just different difficulties. Jeux d'eau is more compact. Meaning you have one difficulty and two bars later another and another. Une barque is more spaced out that way. Also personally I think of Une barque as totally non-virtuosic. I don't want the audience to even think about the technique when hearing it. I want it to sound like a painting of sound that you can get lost in. That makes it supremely difficult - one reason why I find Ravel so much harder than most other composers. As for which to learn I'd suggest pick the one that you feel most inspired by. Thinking about it, I have to say I enjoy just playing through Une barque more because it just has this relatively "friendly" long opening and it just flows under your hands more comfortably. Jeux d'eau feels awkward from the start with all those many hand position changes. So all in all, I like Une barque just a little more and it feels more like I've learned a great work of art. Love them both though.
@@pianomosaic Thanks for the reply! I agree with what you've said totally, I feel more inspired by Une Barque, I can just get lost in the music. I've also pondered learning Debussy's Reflets dans l'eau. I'm in love with the water theme on piano with cascading arpeggios and such. Do you know of any more pieces like this? No worries about the tutorial, I'll look forward to it's arrival in the future!
@@Jack-ik9vy I feel the same. I chose this painting as a background so it looks like the arpeggios are floating on the waves. Well there's Liszt's Jeux d'eau that inspired Ravel's version. And of course Ondine which is, if you can believe it, even more difficult than either of the others. And, though not explicitly about water, you might include Liszt's Un Sospiro. Also very beautiful.
Hi, I've been struggling to play the first part smoothly because the arpeggios in the left hand when I play it just sounds abnormally medium-forte, especially the lowest note, when I hit that key it sounds pretty loud. Do you have any tips?
@pianomosaic oh yes I did watch that video but I think my hand size is pretty small so reaching a 10th is quite uncomfortable, when I do the arpeggios my hand goes in a sweeping motion ended up hitting the lowest note weirdly loud😅
@@headmastercat1137 Well how far can you stretch? Because you don't need to be able to reach a 10th for this. It's a technique similar to Chopin's 10-9 or 25-1. Have you tried using a shared hands fingering?
I would like to contact you to use this wonderful rendition in a short film I am making. I am a student filmmaker in Miami, Florida. How can I contact you? Thanks :)
Adrian Hoffmann I understand what you mean but if you think you can do something about it then please do. Your performance is the best I have seen on youtube that is why me and a lot of other people in the comment section are asking for a tutorial.
Wow thanks ! I didn't realize that. Ok I'm adding it to my list of things to do. But I can't promise it any time soon as other things are in the works. If it's any consolation, I want to upload Jeux d'eau soon and then I'll do the tutorial for that at the same time so I don't miss anything. Then comes at least one other video before I would do this one.
Please make a tutorial. Please. I am asking you because I really love your version. A brief 10 minute tutorial talking about the sound and the technique would work too. Please. Andrian Hoffmann
New gold standard for UA-cam presentation of piano performances? Would be nice.
Now that I've done this, I'm thinking of doing more like it. It wouldn't work for everything but certainly things like Ravel a great for that.
Beautiful, so talented.
There’s something about this piece that makes me feel empty inside, ravels compositions have managed to do that to me lol
That's interesting. Certainly it's not the kind of beauty like Schumann that I would describe as "warmer".
@@pianomosaic yeah I agree, Schumanns pieces are alot more comforting and warm but with ravel although what he’s composed it beautiful (like Schumann) with him it makes me feel almost nostalgic and well empty - I don’t know how else to describe it 😂 at about 0:26 especially it just makes me feel alone and full of nothing
@@ojcksn It's funny you say nostalgic because I used that word exactly back in college once and the faculty chuckled at the thought that Ravel would have that. It's certainly unlikely he was going for it.
That sense of emptiness and loneliness suits this piece though. It conveys the wide ocean in lots of ways. A friend of mine once also said that Ravel's beauty is a "cold beauty" comparing it with Chopin. It's certainly a less personal beauty and more a poetic impression of ambience. Less human perhaps.
@@pianomosaic ahhh yes it’s like a cold beauty, that’s a really good way to describe it, excellent playing aswell! :)
thats the perfect description of how a lot of his music makes me feel!! A hollow emotion to his music. Different to people like Chopin or Schubert who target emotions directly; rather it's far more ambiguous and perhaps slightly unsettling
TUTORIAL?? Ah, my life goal is to play this
It's a very rewarding life goal :)
I'm currently working on something else but if many people ask me about a tutorial for a piece, that will certainly encourage me to make one.
Adrian Hoffmann you know that know i’ll have to make 1000s of fake accounts that request for a tutorial.....
:D Might be time better spent practicing?
Hey if you have any questions about how I practiced it, feel free to shoot away.
Hey just wanna let you know that this comment has 3 likes now so... are you convinced to do a tutorial? 😁😁🤯
Working on another Ravel atm. Perhaps after that. Problem is I can't remember everything I did to practice this one.
I'm impressed with these videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My favourite pieces in superb performances
Came from Reddit, really liked the Idea u had on showing the sheets!
Thx. I like your channel btw. Eventually I want to start doing things like that too.
I luuuuve this piece, actually I’m practicing this at the moment and somehow it’s not that hard and at the same time it’s very tricky... nice performance and just by looking I’ve get some really good tips from you. Thanks a lot.
Thanks.
Yes I also adore it.
Btw. I'm in currently making a practice video on it which should be out in a few weeks.
@@pianomosaic That sounds fantastic, do you have a very quick answer as to how you brought out the #g in the left hand arpeggios? It gets very subdued when I try.
@@Test-zd4mp Hi. Which g# do you mean? The opening arpeggios don't have one. Or do you mean the right hand?
@@pianomosaic Thanks for your swift response, if I haven‘t completely lost the plot the accented left hand note (en dehors) in the fourth bar is the #g I‘m referring to.
@@Test-zd4mp Ah of course. I should have realized.
I presume you play it with the thumb, right? How do you normally bring out some notes over others? I use some clockwise rotation in the left hand with the movement of reaching over to the next note. That way the thumb gets a lot more weight behind it than the other fingers.
Have you tried just playing the first four notes in the left hand (F# C# E G#) and stopping there?
my favourite piano piece ever and you played it soooo beautifully and you give such great advice in the comments thank you so much i appreciate it to much
Hi Maria,
thanks for the kind remarks! I appreciate that.
Thank you! This became my favourite Piano piece! I'm a medium player (Henle level 5/6) so I'm struggling with arabesque 2 (Debussy) and fantaisie-impromptu. I hope one day to get the skills to play this (I know that the dynamics and the story requests like years to master)
i’m around the same level as you too, i believe that both of us will be able to play this one day :)
@@virginialane8847 i hope
I was hoping to see this piece on your channel, and then I found it!! I really like how you play Ravel's piano pieces. They are so clear and beautiful. Also may I ask how long you took to master this one?
Hey thanks!
I'll let you know when I'm done mastering it - hopefully in a few decades or so.
But this recording I prepared in a few months. Looking back now I'm surprised it didn't take longer. I do remember working hard at it though.
For me Ravel equals ravishing! Nothing more to say. Alan in London
Fantastico! :-)
Grazie!
Woah amazing playing! In trying to learn this one or at least part of it. I love how you later everything out in the video too
Hey thanks and thanks for subscribing.
Beautiful playing! Up there with my recordings by Collard, Thibaudet and Tharaud (all Frensh pianists interestingly enough). Great tutorial too. I learned this during pandemic, it was the most difficult piece I mastered (then went on to "Chasse Neige"!). I'll be looking at your suggestions for that difficult middle section with the right hand broken chords before the deluge of arpeggios. My hands get tired at that point. Good thing Ravel has written in a lot of "resting" spots for the hands in this piece. Unlike "Jeux d' Eau or "Ondine", which is just relentless. Thanks again, I'm a subscriber now!
Wow thanks!
It's a very rewarding piece I find. And yes it seems a bit more forgiving than the other two you mentioned. Well good luck. I hope it helps.
HOW!?!?!?!? Incredible.
Thanks!
How do you blend the arpeggios together so well, mine sounds crunchy in comparison
What do you mean by crunchy?
Sends shivers down my spine (in a great way)!!!!!! Have you ever played Liszt's "Trois études de concert", specifically No. 3, "Un sospiro"? This piece kinda reminds me of that (probably 'cos of the arpeggios), but I think that you would do an absolutely superb job at playing that beautiful piece!
Hey thanks ! Yes I know Un Sospiro. Learned the notes of it but never polished it. Very beautiful piece!
@@pianomosaic I hope to see you perform it one day! I can dream, right? :)
@@agentbacardi I would never tell somebody not to dream!
mesmerizing
Thank you! This was really helpful!
Beautiful.. What a piece of work, how long have you spent learning this ?
Thanks. It took me around two months with lots of practicing.
Curious but how long did it took for you to successfully play this piece?
I'm hoping to have mastered it in about 140 years.
I remember starting this early February 2017 and recorded it end of March but it seems longer than that. I do remember practicing it a LOT. Countless hours. I find this kind of Ravel the most difficult type of piano music.
@@pianomosaic i- how old are you
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@@pianomosaic wait then why did you say you were gonna master it in 140 years
@@user-ef4de6ds6f Maybe. It's hard.
Hi, im currently learning this piece and im having some trouble with speed of the tremolos in the right hand in any of the 3 big waves (especially the second).
Do you have any tips or do i just practice a lot more? Thank you.
Yes I also found those difficult. I can't remember now if I discuss these in the tutorial video so perhaps check that out if you haven't yet. I remember the 1st and last I had to play around with various fingerings. On the 2nd theres not much choice.
Do you have difficulties with tremolos or trills in general or is it just these?
One thing that helps is to not aim for speed but just consistency and quality of sound. Then you can focus on the left hand for the dynamic swing and wave effect. That's a mental compoment. Once you're no longer trying to play fast, it ironically becomes easier to let it get faster.
@@pianomosaic ah, i wasnt expecting a response so fast, ive tried fingerings so i guess ill just try practicing.
The time signatures are so complicated and out of place. Its 3/4 in some places but goes past the 3 beat. Such a complex piece im sure even Ravel had difficulties. Such dense figurations and lavish notes. "Too much notes" can for sure apply to this. Makes sense though as its a musical painting of a boat sailing over an ocean, with turbulent seas and calming waves
Heh If you think that’s difficult you should look at gaspard de la nuit
@@thekathal oh, ive read through the pages on that one. Scarbo gives me nightmares out of the whole set. Very technical; scales, repeated notes, octave jumping, quick shifts in musical motifs, constant movement. I believe Ravels father was an egineer of sorts, his mother of Basque heritage; so it makes sense why he is why he is. One of my favorite comoosers
Following the previous comment, a tutorial or partial tutorial would be greatly appreciated!
Also, would you recommend learning this or Ravel's Jeux D'eau? Which is the harder of the two to learn? Thanks!
It's still on my list of things to do but I can't promise when it'll be done.
Oh boy that's hard to say. I'm sitting here trying to decide. They're just different difficulties. Jeux d'eau is more compact. Meaning you have one difficulty and two bars later another and another. Une barque is more spaced out that way. Also personally I think of Une barque as totally non-virtuosic. I don't want the audience to even think about the technique when hearing it. I want it to sound like a painting of sound that you can get lost in. That makes it supremely difficult - one reason why I find Ravel so much harder than most other composers.
As for which to learn I'd suggest pick the one that you feel most inspired by.
Thinking about it, I have to say I enjoy just playing through Une barque more because it just has this relatively "friendly" long opening and it just flows under your hands more comfortably. Jeux d'eau feels awkward from the start with all those many hand position changes. So all in all, I like Une barque just a little more and it feels more like I've learned a great work of art. Love them both though.
@@pianomosaic
Thanks for the reply! I agree with what you've said totally, I feel more inspired by Une Barque, I can just get lost in the music. I've also pondered learning Debussy's Reflets dans l'eau. I'm in love with the water theme on piano with cascading arpeggios and such. Do you know of any more pieces like this? No worries about the tutorial, I'll look forward to it's arrival in the future!
@@Jack-ik9vy I feel the same. I chose this painting as a background so it looks like the arpeggios are floating on the waves.
Well there's Liszt's Jeux d'eau that inspired Ravel's version. And of course Ondine which is, if you can believe it, even more difficult than either of the others.
And, though not explicitly about water, you might include Liszt's Un Sospiro. Also very beautiful.
I don´t see this piece as difficult as looong.
Hi, I've been struggling to play the first part smoothly because the arpeggios in the left hand when I play it just sounds abnormally medium-forte, especially the lowest note, when I hit that key it sounds pretty loud. Do you have any tips?
Have you seen my video with practice tips on this piece?
If not, I might think of something besides that. Just let me know.
@pianomosaic oh yes I did watch that video but I think my hand size is pretty small so reaching a 10th is quite uncomfortable, when I do the arpeggios my hand goes in a sweeping motion ended up hitting the lowest note weirdly loud😅
@@headmastercat1137 Well how far can you stretch? Because you don't need to be able to reach a 10th for this. It's a technique similar to Chopin's 10-9 or 25-1.
Have you tried using a shared hands fingering?
@@pianomosaic thanks for the tips, I will try it sometimes🥰
Who in the heck writes this stuff on the staves ??
Do you have a tutorial for this?
Not at this time. Working on something else atm.
I would also like to see a tutorial, how you practised this piece. I really hope for a tutorial to be honest
It seems this work uses all the 88 piano keys
Almost. My grand only has 85 keys and it works out though I think Ravel would have gone lower if it was possible.
Istant subscRIPTION!! :D
Hey thanks!
When a new piece? Soon or not?
Hard to say. Working on it...
@@pianomosaic yeah I understand of course
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I would like to contact you to use this wonderful rendition in a short film I am making. I am a student filmmaker in Miami, Florida. How can I contact you? Thanks :)
Hi sounds interesting. My email is pianomosaic2@gmail.com
Please make a tutorial. PLEASE.
Problem is I don't remember so much about how I practiced it. I should do tutorials while or shortly after I practice them.
Adrian Hoffmann I understand what you mean but if you think you can do something about it then please do. Your performance is the best I have seen on youtube that is why me and a lot of other people in the comment section are asking for a tutorial.
Wow thanks ! I didn't realize that.
Ok I'm adding it to my list of things to do. But I can't promise it any time soon as other things are in the works.
If it's any consolation, I want to upload Jeux d'eau soon and then I'll do the tutorial for that at the same time so I don't miss anything. Then comes at least one other video before I would do this one.
Adrian Hoffmann Thank you so much. I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you very very much!
Please make a tutorial. Please. I am asking you because I really love your version. A brief 10 minute tutorial talking about the sound and the technique would work too. Please. Andrian Hoffmann