@@ebastian1917 yeah atk is the easiest stat to buff in Genshin so i don't really understand what the op wants. And most characters doesn't even scale with atk.
When the artifact strongbox first came out almost all of the content creators said it was a waste of artifacts exp so I was very hesitant to try it out and now here I am with my best circlet ever (crit rate with 36% crdmg) from the strongbox I just want them to add more artifacts to the strongbox so I don't have to farm the hell that is blizzards and crimson domains
Both xingqiu and bennett have noblesse from the strongbox and bennett's crit rate circlet has 33% ER 💀 And xingqiu has many pieces with +20 crit dmg lmao
The strong box is actually a great option once you're in the late game and have tones of 5 star artifacts piling up and no good artifacts to enhance. It lets you get useful artifacts such as nobless without having to waste extra resin by getting bloodstained pieces.
The social media analogy really hits close to home. Though, my opinion about artifacts still stands. It may not be the worst RNG out there, but it's pretty close to the bottom, and definitely needs improvements.
For me its not the rng, its the resin, you get like 4 tries every day and that's it, i wish we could make more condensed, because login on every day to do 4 domaind runs to just get trash, just kill my vibe to play the game
@@evertonflores8670 well it still ended up being the rng that throw you off resin problem is actually pretty hard to fix meanwhile just reduce the amount of rng involve in getting the stats you want or give more chance like more artifacts per run or rerollable sub stats instead of getting an entire new one
I'm content with the RNG as it stands, as I said at the end I'd like some control/agency over the end result but I'd rather it be something that's truly hard to grind for that makes it worth it and like you've actually earned and crafted a great piece. Think Parametric Transformer with needing lots of mob drops, something farmable in-game that would really take some time.
I find that Honkai Impact 3rd has a way worse system while also being competitive, where you need to pull in order to get the equivalent of artifacts. On the other hand, in GI, you just need to use resin and you don't even need good artifacts to 36* the abyss depending on your knowledge + "skill". In any case, I prefer having this kind of system than having to farm for 5 hours everyday to hope dropping 1 piece of gear since I don't have a lot of time to play. Even worse, having to buy packs and spending 1K+ euros per artifact to upgrade it just like in Maplestory. In overall, artifacts isn't the core issue in GI, it's the lack of late game content imo, the artifact grind is fine as it is, even if it could be better like everything.
@@Ratheil they just need to provide us more chance to grind for them by making the resin generate faster grinding artifact is hard because it's rng on top of rng on top of rng on top of rng
3:10 That's a good goblet. It's on set Hydro Dmg, and it has a fairly high Crit Rate even if the other substats aren't useful. Because it is on set you can have a different artifact be your off piece which can easily make up for this artifacts very slight downside of having 3 useless substats. I have a similar Electro Dmg EoSF Goblet with 12.1% Crit Rate on Raiden
@@carlosx8603 “fairly high” implies that that crit rate sub isn’t just plain high. I have 1 artifact with over 10% crit rate and I’m ar57. That goblet started with 3 subs, so it obviously can’t hit the max. 3 crit rate rolls! On an on-set hydro damage bonus goblet with 3 flat stats! What are the odds??
Just want to share a story. So I was playing my friend's acc and I got a anemo dmg vv goblet with cr. It was good until my friend raised it and got it to I think 40+ cv, at that point it was godly. Then maybe an hour later I was playing another friend's acc and got a cd circlet with cr substat. I'm still wondering why I can guide others to a treasure I cannot possess
Literally same, I can't get a 30cv emblem on my main account even tho I tried for 8 months, I logged onto a friend's acc and just rolled a 40 cv one out of my ass. Afterwards onto the next account, I rolled an on set hydro goblet for 35+ cv.
Good video. People’s expectations are becoming ridiculous. The HoD cup with hydro and 4 rolls of CR is a very strong artifact. If you are aiming for a similar artifact with 5-6 rolls of CR and CD, you could spend tens of thousands of resin and not get that.
My Itto only has 2 on set husk pieces, the flower and feather. Everything else is random. His crit ratio is 70:160 which is great to me, just wish he had a full set.
In my case i got ""Lucky"" i got a good def goblet on set for him, but couldn't never get a single fucking feather 💀 And once i get one, is just EM, HP and ATK
I went 2pc bloodstained 2pc pale flame over 4pc pale flame for eula since the artifacts were far better than 4pc. It's better to stick with the better artifacts while you grind away for the 4pc set or in my case just be happy with 2pc 2pc because it would take months to get a 4pc set as good.
When it comes to the strongbox right now; I highly recommend people to just save all their 5* artifacts and farm it after Dendro drops (if it drops with Sumeru, that is). That way you can knock out 2 birds with 1 stone. Dendro%, and farming off-pieces. I'm 2/3rd the way to completely filling my bag with artifacts lol 10:33 - That is my Hu Tao. Walked into Crimson Witch domain; got her full 4 piece set 60/220 within 8 runs 🤣 Best extreme I've ever had in this entire game.
The same happened with my diluc. I decided to settle for the first correct main stat 4 piece set and roll with it. Ended up giving me 60/140 crit ratios. lol
Same happened to my accidentally pulled Ganyu in the Blizzard domain way back in 1.2. Her 4-pc blizzard had 19.4-125 crit (94.4-233.6 in total with every other sources of crit) within a week of farming, and yet Ayaka still doesn't have a single good sands, goblet or circlet.
Oh shit you're right! I have over 1000 artifacts because I'm really bad at deciding what to throw away and what to keep. After watching this video I wanted to go and clear that mess up, roll into strongboxes, level the good ones etc. But indeed it would save a ton of time if I did the strongbox rolls after dendro gets released! Gonna wait a few more months I guess haha
This is also why you should save all of the artifact boxes from the Spiral Abyss for this reason. More artifacts stockpiled will mean higher chance of getting that Dendro goblet from the strongbox sooner
@@259 that is, if you actually want to farm dendro. If you don't you absolutely should not stockpile them because you'll have a lower chance of getting an element you want
I don't think the artifact rng is bad either however it becomes excessive when you take into consideration the resin system attached to it. I think artifacts would be a lot more manageable if the end was actually in sight when deciding to farm them, for example with weapon ascension materials I know roughly how many it will take to 1-90 a new weapon but with artifacts it is impossible to know where the end is because of the rng. This causes an issue where you don't really now how much resin it will consume from the resin you get this week or even month. Farming for artifacts is the only way this game has ever burnt me out and I do think some changes are necessary to at least have that end in sight. I don't know what this new mechanic should be but I do think there should be one.
This is precisely why I don't do heavy artifact grinding in one go. Helps I'm not late game numbers world 8 like everyone else (would be nice if rng would at least give me 5 star artifacts more consistently but meh), but I do my best to spread out artifact grinding. Like this week we had the ley lines so I made sure to spend resin in that instead and whatever is left over can be divided between bosses, ascension materials etc with some some artifact grinding. Its a lot more manageable doing only a few days on artifact grinding at a time, or at least switching beteeen the characters I'm building so I don't get burnt out on that one location. Though I'm almost wondering how jacked I can make some of my characters by flipping sets. The healing sets give way better crit rolls than anyone else, meanwhile I've gotten a handful of healing goblets from pick-your-dps set.
Exactly and the dude who made this vid probably throws money at the game and refills his resin constantly. Which is exactly why he doesn't seen any problem with the current system. Very possible he's partnered with mihoyo alot of content creators are.
I feel like for the people whose standards are "too high" it's probably more accurate to think that they have good artifacts already but can't get anything better than what they have. For example the artifact they have is CR - 6.2 CD - 20.7 HP - 555 HP% - 4% But the artifact they want would replace the hp stats with atk% and EM with higher crit rolls.
A lot of players dispose artifacts that has just one crit stat on a 4 stat starter. In my experience those artifacts are the ones that surprisingly rolls well. For instance I recently got a 4 stat starter, with just crit damage and atk % and it rolled 35+crit damage and 1 into attack % =9.9% atk. That artifact is one of my highest crit damage pieces. Now for me, because this piece has high crit damage, I try finding a another piece that has high crit rate rolls to compliment with it and bring balance in stats. It's nice to have both crit rate and damage rolls on all pieces, but it's still possible to work around the imbalances in rolls per pieces.
same except it was crit dmg and 3 flat substats. everything rolled into crit dmg and it has almost 40%. like, obviously it doesn't happen often but if you're late into the game you can risk it. personally i have every 4*, all standard 5* and about half limited ones and all my characters are at least lv 71, most with talents lv 6 at least because i like to switch things around. for example I got c2 Lisa from standard so i wanted to use her in the abyss. gave her prototype amber which I R5ed for my healer Mona and put emblem on her, she kinda slapped with raiden, ayato and sucrose. my point is, my resin spend is mostly artifacts + some on talent books/mora so I don't mind leveling potentially trash pieces to 16/20 if they're on set. so that 38% crit dmg piece even with useless other stats is still better then any other circlets on set, it makes it possible to actually have an off piece good goblet instead of an avarage one. so, you never know. i wouldn't recommend it to newer players though, definetely farming artifacts is the least resin efficient activity to increase your damage, newcomers should focus on levels and talents first to make their lives easier
If it's 1 crit with 3 bad stats, I may trash them bc the stat efficiency could be too low on my account at this point even IF it all rolled crit (unlikely). And I base this off of what happens when I use an optimizer. Many of my only 1 crit pieces don't get used, but I do use a lot of characters who benefit from a lot of stats (ER, ATK, EM) and not just crit. Tho, this depends on the piece, character, and what my other artifacts look like. But for new players, it's completely bonkers to trash that. +8/12 it and decide after that
@@JohnJillky yeah my point, it depends on an account. My goal is to have every character equiped so i won't have to swap artifacts so my standard for those that aren't my top 15 loved ones are a bit lower xD but yeah if i do abyss and want to use Yanfei i will swap crimson from Hu Tao even though Yanfei has her own artifacts but they're less cracked. But my standards are still probably a bit too high, even if it's a support I won't use a lot i still need at least 60 crit rate ~120 crit dmg with decent other stats (depends on a character obviously, Lisa needs ER, Noelle DEF etc.). However i don't really bitch about my artifacts for those characters, i know that my goal to equip all dozens of them is ambitious anyway, but i will bitch about spending 6 months in dragonsPAIN including fragile resin, to end up with 70-140% crit on Tartag (which is a minimum for my mains in my eyes) and that's with the BP bow which gives a ton of crit rate... And 1700k ATK 110% ER, 0 EM XD for so much resin it's really actually trash, if i was ftp i would have to switch to a crit rate mask to even barely make 50% crit rate and I'd have around 100% crit DMG. Six fricking months. I farmed half the time for Raiden and she's build better with ER weapon so no help with crit there. Ps. I'm a low spender so i don't have many 5* weapons and i dont refresh but god people underestimate how much designated weapons help to build a characters Sorry for the rant hahah i don't mind some RNG but that's too much Edit: typos
@@akwaMartyna I'm leveling every character I have and just swapping artifacts myself. I've given up on artifacts for now. I'll get back to it later 😂 Tho I do want a blizzard strayer set, I've made do without so far
the downside is that the lv 20 roll is risky, though you could just make your decision at 16. If the 4 stat misses the first roll, it's significantly worse than a 3-substat with one crit, that rolled the other crit stat at lv 4.
I agree the strongbox is useful, however I will stop using it. I have no artefact exp and i have many artefacts with potential that cannot be upgraded. I need to save every artifact to fodder into exp. I guess it's also because when I do get good artifacts, they don't roll well enough where it is an upgrade for some of my pieces. Every case is unique, i know someone who's the same ar as me but has 500 artifacts to fodder at any time
@@Wonbaeofficial I am consistently farming artefacts and I have been doing so for months. I'm ar 57 and still struggling to get as many artifacts as I see on some accounts. Sometimes I wonder if those people never farm mora or upgrade other characters cause otherwise how do they have so many artifacts
I'm usually overflowing with Artifact EXP but I have moments where I run out, in those moments I either go back to artifact farming (the shiny spots in the overworld) or I start going through all the failed +4/8/12/16's I have to use those as EXP since at any given time I have at least 100ish of those lying around. When it comes down to it my acquisition of artifacts worth taking to level 20 just isn't as fast as the rate at which domains can give me fodder. This is something that'll change wildly from person to person. Since I've played since launch I have a very strong base of artifacts on both accounts and true upgrades just don't come around enough.
@@Ratheil i have strong artifacts since I have farmed for months, I guess I don't have a lot to fodder since I am building many characters and I don't want to change artifacts between characters when I want to use them. I have around 12 built characters, each with their own artifacts. I also don't farm the artifact route usually as I just don't have time some weeks so I just enter, do some domains/bosses then log out. I still have the chasm quest and the chasm to explore as I have been particularly busy these past few weeks
Great vid and excellent point. Players really do need to temper their expectations. Comparing yourself to others makes you vain and bitter and keeps you from appreciating the things you have for what they are. And I’ve always believed that Genshin Impact, with its lack of pvp and leaderboards and any form of in-game competitive gameplay, embodies that very virtue.
the goblet you showed is really good, but for me, everything that goes above 7% crit rate is, since i just happen to be unlucky with crit rate, while i do get high crit damage rolls. my standards are just: is the artifact i got better or worse than what i already have on my account, if its worse i probably wont use it, if its about the same then i'll keep it. because it got me SO long to get an electro goblet, i do not care if it all goes to def, atleast i can replace the four star one with hp rolls. i tend to give a lot of artifacts a chance, i needed a feather on the vv set, i got one with def, hp, and atk, all flat stats, i got it to four and got crit damage. it rolled 23%, and that isn't the best (i have pieces with 34%, but thats only rare and not even necessary) but it's better than a four star with flat def rolls. regarding the strongbox: i got my two best artifacts from there, and it is so cool.
It is about the same for me ! My bennett has the best artifacts of my account, 40cv but NONE OF THEM ARE FROM CRIMSON WITCH SET !! My goblet have 20cv which is 2 crit rolls so if I get a pyro dmg CW cup even if it's bad I will instantly equip it on him so I could keep the flower, the feather or the timepiece !
Bro,it’s just the opposite with me.I wish I had more crit dmg roll than crit rate.I get more crit rate than crit dmg.For example,I have a flower which is 13 crit rate and 6 crit dmg
The great thing is that you can use fully upgraded artifacts to level up new ones. So just use mediocre artifacts, feed them to good ones when you get them and then to great ones. Rolls are a thing so this isn't at all a perfect strategy, but it helps a lot at building new characters
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Problem with that retoric is : when you already have « ok artifacts » on a character, you need « amazing artifacts » to perfect your characters. When you’re in that step, you need those overall 230 Crit Value on your character.
But conversely, if you're at the "I need amazing artifacts" stage, it is fine that it takes time to get those. The problem is more when you want to start playing a new character, and you just want a decent set, not a great one, but decent, and one slot just absolutely refuses to cooperate.
@@Axterix13my freeze team 4p blizzard Layla ended up amazing while 4p blizzard kaeya just cannot get a good blizzard piede for his life (although he does have good energy recharge)
Some of my best are the ones that started out with one crit stat/ATK%/an useless stat. The Crit pops up on the 4th and everything piles into the crit stats. Adversely some of my absolute worst artifacts are ones that started with 4 as a base including double crit.
Watching a few of these types of videos, I realized that “op” artifacts are the one that have crit rate and crit DMG in substats (and after spending 37 fragile resin, I have got some good artifacts enough to leave raiden and Barbara satisfied, and leave kaeya, Bennett, tighnari and gaming slightly satisfied), and I asked other AR 50+ players for their advice, but they say that my artifacts are a beyond average than the artifacts of other people at my AR
One of my early mistakes in artifact farming was trying to crit hoard , i didn't realise the value of those other stats , now that I have realised my life has become infinitely more easier
That Hydro Goblet is decent imo, I'd use it for Childe 'cause of it being on-set and Congrats on the Physical Goblet looking really good (hehe) Thank you for the Video, it's exactly what I tell my friend The standard of "what is good enough" is just different for people and sometimes decent gets the job done as well instead of grinding mindlessly
I always aim for usable artifacts before good ones. As long as the main stat is good and there's at least one or two good substats, it's better than nothing. However, it is indeed very frustrating to see those pieces not be as good as more optimal pieces could be.
I totally get your point, but the thing is, you into can have so many artifacts to fodder into others, so that you do have to be critical with which ones you want to give a chance.
To a degree yes, there's a healthy balance in the middle where you give artifacts that have untapped potential a chance but don't go crazy upgrading everything with a single crit stat/missing stat that could be crit. It's a dynamic situation that changes over time.
My big problem with artifacts is when I start out with a decent one and the game gives me flat HP twice, flat attack twice, and flat defense once even though I had a good elemental goblet with crite rate substat. It just takes so much damn farming and mora to even begin to sort through the artifacts.
earlier, i received a good glad feather from the strongbox after 1 month of feeding trash to it. i tested my luck to see the bonus substat since it only has crit rate on it, and crit damage was added. then i fed a trash level 20 and it all went to hp:)))
Chongyun was the first 4-star character I got from Genshin wishes, and I INSTANTLY fell in love with him. I've been lucky enough to C6 him, as well. I know that he's rated relatively low amongst meta-Travelers, but I personally love that he can increase my Itto's attack speed and has good synergies with other claymore users (my favorite weapon type). I recently decided to stop hoarding my resources (cough cough 17 crowns collecting dust in my inventory cough cough) and REALLY build him, and see how I can use other units like Rosaria and Shenhe to maximize his potential; this has been SO much fun. The Peak of Vindagnyr is a menace, an abomination, a tragedy, a barren hellscape, a ruthless tyrant, a cruel mistress, and a brutal trial all in one. It is the place where dreams are forever corrupted, where aging becomes rapid, where families are torn apart, and where patience yields to rage. It is a domain completely absent of good people; it's inhabitants drink the blood of their victims from the useless goblets that sustain players' presences in its shadowy depths. The Peak of Vindagnyr is where Dad went so many years ago. Now, I've reunited with him...and now, neither of us can go back to Mom. 10/10 experience will farm this domain until the next cataclysm.
I’m kind of a masochist when it comes to farming artifacts. Here’s my routine: 1 - I look at what my character needs based on his scaling, weapon given and role 2 - I choose what set I want for them 3 - On a piece of paper I write “Flower of Life”, “Plume of Death” etc. 4 - For every piece of the set I choose the Main Stat 5 - then, on another page, I write the Sub Stat I need/want until I reach 20 (4 Sub Stat for 5 pieces). Max 5 times each Sub Stat, you can’t get the same one on the same piece 6 - I distribute them equally on the pieces 7 - I start farming the set until I get a PERFECT artefact. If my piece had to be: Sands of Eon Elemental Mastery ATK ATK% CRIT Rate CRIT DMG I don’t stop until u get that EXACT piece. If it’s missing a stat I level it up to level 4 and check. If it is the stat I wanted I continue, otherwise I’ll continue farming 8 - once I found the perfect piece I level it up to level 20 but what I hope for is kind unusual: I hope it rolls once for every Sub Stat. I don’t believe in the supremacy of the CRIT. If Itto scales DEF he’ll need as much CRIT value as DEF so one roll on each is the best for a balanced character. 9 - repeat step 7-8 until satisfied 🥲
As a fellow masochist like yourself, I too use either the same or shockingly similar routine whenever I farm for artifacts. Sure. My expectations may seem too high or whatever, but at least I know exactly what I’m farming for than settling for less. Especially since I want my characters to be performing at the very best they can.
My best atk sands has 33% crit dmg... Along with 3 meh substats. I was so desperate for a noblesse atk sands that I took a gamble on it. The emotional pay off of rolling everything on that single was *mwah* chef's kiss.
Artifact Strongbox was a savior for me who frequently use that Burst buff set. You tell me. Spend Resin and get useless Physical artifact, or spend artifacts you already wasted Resin on to get that artifact you wanted.
3:10 That is a very nice artifact for the average player due to 24.8 crit value and having Hydro DMG on a Hydro set cup As for my own standards, I think that if you can have artifacts for a character (without crit weapons or ascension stats) to be like 60/105 then I'd considering it pretty good in my opinion
I really needed this video. I was really scared to roll for artifacts, but thanks for the advice! You've geniunely been the most reliable genshin channel on the internet, and i thank you for that on our community's behalf. Entertaining and informative? You're an absolute gem!
6 weeks + 15 fragile resin at blizzard strayer domain and only 2 useable pieces for Ayaka (1 is only 17cv gross) yet 500 good HoD pieces... but i dont have anyone to use them on, the game does this on purpose i swear. Same with the clam domain, ive gotten so many crit pieces from there which are USLESS for my kokomi.
I generally have lower standards for sand/goblet, i find those to be the hardest to farm good piece. Circlets by their very nature are pretty good, so my standards are higher for them. Strongbox, I thought it was a scam at first, still kinda do. On the other hand theres nothing to do with all the artifacts laying around in your inventory.
I think the main issue with artifacts rn is that its so resin consuming, especially since u have to use it for bosses and talents also. it spreads your supply so thin that the RNG of it feels unfair
I do agree to an extent. Basically the artifact grind struggle for me is trying to get an UPGRADE. I have usable pieces all around and it gets so much more difficult when you're trying to balance 4 stats on a character (Crit, ATK, ER), ESPECIALLY on Emblem artifact set users. Getting optimal energy recharge, good crit AND elemental damage and the atk/hp substats etc is HARD. artifact grinding from scratch feels so much better because eventually you throw on a 4pc set of usable artifacts and hope for an upgrade. My raiden shogun GENUINELY has double crit on *every single piece* but I still have a sub-50% crit rate. I think bare minimum QoL improvements to artifact system would be the ability to reset an artifact to level 0 while maintaining substats, or completely rerolling substats and preserving the main stat.
Awesome tips ratheil! I hope u add these tips in a follow up vid. I've helped friends with their accts and so many people don't know the treasure they're sleeping on 1) Getting a 3 sub-stat artifact with Crit rate, crap, and more crap, and unlocking Crit DMG as the 4th stat is the same as having a 3 sub-stat artifact with both Crit rate and Crit DMG. With this logic, Ive rolled tons of artifacts that looked like the hydro goblet in the vid, and ended up with a godly 30-35 Crit value. 2) If it's a Crit circlet, keep in mind that you CAN'T get the same main stat as your sub-stat. So if it's a Crit rate circlet with 3 substats, just try rolling to +4 and see if it gets Crit DMG. You never know, it has the potential for 31.2 Crit DMG in substats. 3) you also don't lose any artifact XP by throwing a +4 into a new artifact (or maybe you do, but it's a negligible amount). I've used the same +4 fodder about 20+ times before, without it ever going down to +3. Just about everything is worth trying to +4 at least
yeah i think ur kind of right tho xD but i wanna tell you this anyway : so i have an average resin contingent of 200 resin a day (sometimes i do top up one if i have the primos or a fragile or transcient resin) and since 12 weeks i am farming the Viridescent Domain every day. That means i spent 12 weeks x 7 days x ~ 200 resin = 16.800 resin on the viridescent domain since then. and i happened to monitor my artifact drops todo some statistics on my average luck since i have nothing else to do anyway xDD. I got 1139 gold artifacts in total. Sadly my luck was so bad that i got 2 EM viridescent pieces (wich is 0.17% of all drops) and 5 EM pieces in total (wich is 0.43% of all drops). Additionally i got 783 DEF mainstat pieces in total (wich is equal to 68,74% of all drops) and the last 30,83% are shared of feathers, plumes and other mainstat pieces such as HP%, ATK%, elemental/physicalDMG%, CRITDMG/RATE. According to the wiki the drop chance for EM pieces is 2.5% which means i should have 28 EM pieces in total and the chance between maidens set and viridescent set is 50/50, which means i should have got 14 virdescent em pieces. where are my artifacts xDDD And since this is the viridescent set and i wanna stack as much EM on my Venti / Kazuha i dont really care about the substats lmao. yeah what d'you think when i will get those huh xD
This is so relatable. Seeing everyone being so lucky just kinda kills the spirit for me a little. Hardwork pays off, but seeing those who dont need to work hard and still have better results than you just make you wanna quit so much. I myself been stuck with a one piece EM for kazuha and farming for 4 weeks, but i assume it's gonna take me more time than you just to get some good enough ones :(
I actually didn't mind artifact farming for a long time...until the Lost Valley came out. The Lost Valley is the bane of my existence because I only have one character who could use either of the artifact sets (Xiao). It was a nightmare to farm decent artifacts for him and it felt like such a waste of resin because, for many other domains, the artifacts farmed could be used on SOMEBODY. I'm hoping in the future that genshin will release more characters that will benefit from the Lost Valley to make the domain much more worthwhile
The Artifact system in this game is too frustrating for me so i decided i'd skip it entirely and rely on Gladiator/Wanderer alone, maybe sprinkle in some 2pc Berserker, and i noticed again and again just how low my standards are, for obvious reasons, but i'm happy with this decision. Oh and the Strongbox was godsent for me
Youre a madman and i like it. Though i think you should atleast farm the shimenawa/emblem domain so you can slap on a 36% atk bonus on a double two piece or give 20% er to whoever needs it
@@ascaredmilipede7971 I kinda wanna keep my acc as gimmicky as it is now, i know i'm missing out on very good sets but i wanna see where never farming artifact domains will get me Also the Abyss drops two 18% ATK sets right now and for ER i have Exile
@@ascaredmilipede7971 i got the resources due to not farming artifacts to have recently leveled all my chars to lv90 with at 6/6/6 talents, but i mainly use Klee, Ganyu and Ayaka as main DPS in my teams Ganyu has 4pc Wanderer, Klee has Wanderer/Gladiator, Ayaka has Gladiator/Noblesse I do occasionally try stuff like CA spam Diona though
I had pretty low expectations at the beginning. But then all my artifacts started rolling all DEF, no matter how good substats were to begin with. Now i won't even consider leveling up until i get crit rate and crit dmg substats, which is extremely rare to get (and it's still rolls all DEF lmao). It would be so nice to have some kind of pity on artifacts, that RNG just kills me.
I totally agree on strongbox. At first content creators are all saying strong box is a trap etc. But what I saw in strongbox is opportunity, opportunity. On the first day of strong box, I used all my trash artifacts (500-700 pcs) and suddenly my Ganyu is bonkers! 55/210 crit and a 200 EM!! All the rolls goes to EM and crits only except for the circlet since thats the hardest.
Sadly some still say it's a trap even today. I think they are definitely just being dismissive of it as a meme because much like domains it will give more trash than treasures but I some people will believe them and it will reinforce their already negative thoughts about it.
I'd label that hydro goblet you asked about as perfectly serviceable. If all other artifacts for a character were of that quality I'd just move on to farm other things. I prefer raising talent levels and new characters over perfecting artifacts. It's just more fun. Though I do have a bit higher standards for one of my favoured characters compared to some random character I levelled just because I thought it might be fun.
This right here is one of my favorite Genshin videos, and I think you need to promote this every few months in order to make sure people see it and understand its OKAY to only have 2 stats that are good on a piece,. This video was the Push I needed to finally give Emblem Domain Grinding a try, and I've been having a Blast wiith my Weird Rosaria National Team. So really, thank you so much for making this, and you earned yourself a like on every video and a sub.
Weird enough I managed to fully build my Ganyu with Full Wanderer's set by feeding trash artifacts to the strong box. Also most of my good off set artifacts came from it.
I literally farm the emblem set for Raiden since this domain is out. Over 2 years of constant suffering and I still don't have really good artifacts. I really have no explanation of this why this domain screws me over for years. Maybe it is because I am using Raiden and the game automatically thinks the artifacts have to be bad because I have a character that needs it. That is my only explanation.
3:27 This artifact is kinda scuffed but it depends on the character that uses it On childe it's cope, because 3 dead stats On koko it's just bad, if flat hp was hp% it would be ok also 3 dead stats On ayato it's ok, this the type of artifact you switch out once you get a better one. It mainly depends on what the character needs, and how many sub stats that character can utilize.
The strongbox really needs more love! I've gotten the majority of my 4pc sets from it. Like 3 full Noblesse sets, Wanderer's for Ganyu, good glad pieces and recently Crimson, TF and Thundersoother. I've actually never set foot in the crimson domain, and from what I hear that's a blessing. As far as the worst domain for me it's also undoubtedly Peak of Vindagnyr. I was trying to gear up my beloved Kamisato siblings for ages but that domain only contains feathers and flowers!! Luckily the strongbox was able to finish out the sets for me pretty well. Oh, and good job... now I really want to boot up the old PS2 and replay FFX. That nostalgic music...
Love the video. The only thing I want to touch on is in reference to the grind. I agree that genshin’s grind amount is not bad. The amount of grind you need to do is actually super small in the grand scheme of things. What I find bad about it is the subtype of grind it is. It’s restrictive grind. So you may not spend too much total time grinding the game, but it demands that the time you do spend grinding it be consistent. Which, yes, is what most game developers strive for as it makes their numbers look good especially for a game like Genshin that doesn’t have any real replayable content. However, this is where the majority of players’ frustrations come from. Most games people play allow you to grind on your own time. Don’t have the time to play the game for a week? That’s fine, you can sit down on a day you’re free and grind for 8 hours to try and accomplish what you set out to do that day. In Genshin, you don’t have that feeling of accomplishment when you’re grinding artifacts specifically. Because the grind is time gated, if you miss a day, it truly feels bad because you cannot make up for that grind when you are capable of doing so. If compressing resin wasn’t limited or at the very least, had a much higher cap than 5, this might alleviate the frustration a lot. But as is, the time gates rng rolls on top of the layered rng doesn’t feel as though you’re accomplishing the task of progressing your account because you can go so many sessions with failed grinds. And these grinds are failures not because of your own capabilities or perseverance. So while you may succeed in bettering your account eventually, even when you succeed, it comes off the back of many sessions that can be counted as failures for most or even wasted effort for some.
your channel is highly underrated man love your commentary and humor, and yes the social media analogy in genshin impact is really well explained and it doesn't just apply to artifacts but the pulls and other aspect of RNG too.
Currently the best piece I have on my account is a geo goblet with around 17% crit dmg and 11% crit rate.....or so I thought but just realized recently that is said 17% crit RATE and 11% crit dmg
@@dojiz7242 The reason it's the best piece I have is becuz of that. For 4 months I did not know that said crit RATE instead of dmg Idk why I might just be dumb
The quickest way, in my experience, to understand what artifacts can be good is to use an optimizer. Many pieces I used to think were meh end up being on my optimal builds. And after equipping like 5 characters for DPS, I can often have 30 and 40 CV pieces left out (usually bc those pieces have no ER)
3:06 IMO the goblet is average at best 24.8 CRIT value isn't bad (most of my artifacts have that much) the big issue comes with 3 flat stats this is something i likely wouldn't give a chance unless i completely overlooked the flats when leveling it on impulse for reference i trash an artifact if it has 2 flats and only 1 CRIT stat rolled
I learned to not chase the perfect crit ratio. The only thing I avoid are the flat stats (and even that only when I can). Not to mention, I lovered my expectations for any elemental cup. I do look around for the best one, of course, but even a mediocre or a copium one is good for a time. Farming artifacts takes time. You need to develop patience (or a thick wallet, but patience is preferred). Also, strongbox is great! Recently I decided to build a wanderers Yanfei and it's super helpful since otherwise this set is hard to farm properly.
The Crimson Witch domain is the bane to my existence. I never really care about substats but sometimes when I see any of the flat stats (atk, def or hp) I usually disregard them and I’m aware no one should do that
10:00 well, RNG is not so random... it can be controlled the rate of prock for individual stats and sub-stats, have you noticed that after farming a lot in a domain the amount of circlets with ATK, HP and DEF are always higher than CRIT? also if you farm in the Slumbering Court Domain, you imagine that will be a piece of cake to have the DEF and HP pieces you need, but the game trolls you by giving a lot of pieces of DEF in the kokomi's set and HP in the Itto's set, that's because each individual substat have a drop rate that can be controlled by developers, so the chances are never equal, the goal is to keep you locked farming dungeons because if you have easily all you want from that domain you will loose interest in the game, at least that's what the developers think
"Too much grind" is not my main complaint. No, it's that there's no progress floor - i.e. no limit on how much effort you can invest and get _no_ return, even if you are evaluating new artefacts rationally. For a progression mechanic that is also time gated, this is both not even necessary and potentially far too punishing. If you could e.g. burn a large number of high rarity artefacts to predictably shift an attribute of an existing one to something more favourable, that would provide at least an assurance that your efforts aren't going to be entirely wasted. Any competent game designer should be able to build that system such that it doesn't break the intended progress rate compared to average luck not using it.
This is exactly what I thought watching this video, like there is no pity system at all... At least wishing has SOME end in sight. Artifacts straight up have no way to predict what you're going to get. I had to farm 4-5 months to get a useable blizzard set. With content getting harder and harder the demand and need of better artifacts will only get higher and higher, this is probably why standards are rising. I legit can't use certain characters in abyss just because the artifact sub stats are just to underwhelming. They definitely need to rework this system.
After watching this video, I realized that I have been setting the bar too high for my artifact standard. Now looking back at my account, I'm having lots of decent artifact pieces and sets, ty!
it's crazy how you don't have more subscribers especially when considering how many views you get per video. these are amazing quality videos man keep it up!!
2:55 DAAAAMN, SHENHE PEACE 3:10 ALSO THIS CUP IS AMAZING Oh yeah, you just reminded me. I got a Crit rate circlet on a new Xiao set and it had ATK%, EM and ER. I saw like PLEASE ER. I edned up with 11 ATK% and 21 Crit DMG
The biggest problem with artifacts is inventory space. HYV expanded it to 1500, but I still have like 1450 5* artifacts, and I’m too hesitant to sort it. And I’ve already sorted them once!
Yeah... This video did help. Basically a shining light into the darkness that is the despair of strangers (and the grind that is artifact domains that always drop the wrong set).
viridescent domain hates me, but at least it's super quick to farm, especially if you have venti. a punch in the gut when you get maiden's for over a week, but it is what it is
Thank you for this advice. I have waaaaaay too high of standards apparently and took your advice and rolled a deep wood memories goblet and it got crit damage and increased its crit rate. All I had to do was take a small step and it paid off!! (I will say, it’s on YaoYao LMAO but cuz Nahida’s current artifacts have such incredible EM and CD%)
I paused on the hydro goblet, in my opinion it’s a decent to good artifact I believe that’s 3 rolls into crit rate so actually good the only bad thing is the flat stats that not really any character wants, however if I got this piece it could be an upgrade for a few characters that I have (I have been playing since launch) Also (hi again) the strong box has given me some of if not my best pieces so if you have a set you want to farm check the strong box first it can save you so much resin
I hate the Crimson Witch domain more than any other. I've had terrible luck there and although I don't find it difficult to complete, it is dreadfully slow. I got Klee right when she first released so she was one of the first characters I built but now her artifacts are outdated and I'm struggling to find the motivation to go back in there and get replacements.
Watching this made me remember the time when pyro goblets were as rare as billets and always getting cursed with bad sets with good main and substats and great sets with bad main and substats.
100% agree with the strong box, i was farming the new domain which had vermilion hereafter and echoes of an offering to get one of the two pieces for my yae and all the bad pieces i got i fed into the glad strong box and got 1 very good sans of time which is what i needed for my yae miko since i had a good feather for her so thanks to the strong box i got a very good 2 piece glad, to go along with my 2 piece shimenawa. and i now am using the strong box for the noblesse set which imo still is like one of the best sets in the game as it brings a lot of supportive power and the extra 35% burst damage is the charry on top
The vermillion domain sounds like a great way to get a bunch if attack percent 2 pieces. Is it worth it though with having so many natural Glad pieces and getting a bunch of SR pieces while farming emblem?
@@J.sh_CDN I just got very unlucky with glad and only got 2 good feathers lmao so I had to farm the new vermilion set 🤣 but in the end I got my final glad so it was worth
I think if you have only few 5* artifacts it may be better to keep them as exp. But if they pile up than the strongbox becomes a really nice option. Anyway I really enjoyed this video. Keep it up!
Damn, this is the first time I saw someone talking about the pov of players when it comes to artifact's standards. This is actually a really great video to share with the Genshin community. Although some might be in denial about the truth of artifact standards, it all comes to the opinion of themselves. Overall, a great video with great details. Keep up the effort! 🎉
3:20 it actually depends on the context, if it is for a DPS Critkomi, its beautiful, if it is for a Yelan, its perfect, don't even touch it, if it is for Tartaglia, baby its good but i know you can get a better artifact but it should do as a place holder
The two extremes you talked about is as actually me and my friend. He always complains to me about artifacts, but when I handled his account, I get his characters built in a few days. But on the other hand, he almost always wins 50/50, while Im stuck with my 3 time loss streak.
I think the other thing people underestimate is non-crit stats. EM or HP on their hu tao, EM on melt ganyu, ATK and ER or Ayaka People go for the highest crit ratio only and if it doesn’t have double crit they don’t care People are probably not rolling a lot of artifacts that have Crit and 2 other good stats that could have been a balance addition to their other artifacts and are therefore missing out on good pieces
As A Man who likes to main Pyro DPS, Fuck Farming the Crimson. Shit is just too hard my guy even when when I go to co op mos of the time It takes about 3 and almost 4 minutes to finish that domain.
I couldn't agree more. This is so true. I am really tired of viewing comments from most videos cause most of the time I come across a complaint on the artifact RNG system. lmao.
This is a fairly good take on artifacts. I am one of the people who commented on a previous video about how it legitimately takes months to fully build a character. However, I did mention that I believe there are levels of being "built". There is the, throw spare leveled artifacts with mostly correct main stats level of built, the proper set with passable stats level, the good, and the fully built level. As I see it anyway. Fully built isn't actually the final level, I have just given up on what could be better. Fully built is when the crit rate and damage are at least 50/100, your ER is good enough that it isn't a slog to get the burst back up, and atk is suitable. Depending on character of course. I can usually manage passable after a month of consistent farming a single set. I still only have a single character I consider fully built, two at good, and 5 or so doing passable levels of built. My standards for consideration of leveling is pretty simple, does it have two desirable substats, regardless of main stat since someone will eventually come along that may need it. Element goblets are an exception, I will hang on to them if they have at least one desirable substat. If that is aiming too high, I don't think I can engage with opinions in this area anymore. I don't watch account reviews, and I only ever look at someone elses artifacts if I am watching a build guide. So I'm not doing much comparison.
I have got my Wanderer’s set exclusively from the strongbox and have gotten some irreplaceable pieces, I seriously do recommend it if you find yourself with an excess of 5* artifacts.
This dude is right. I just threw in some 30-something rolls into the strongbox RNG, got one average artifact, was needed due to the EM mainstat, and got a kick-ass tier artifact flower with 21.8% CRIT DMG, 8.2% Crit Rate, 4.5% ER. I had never had this roll before. My Crit DMG is 15% at best in my other sets.
This was so good to watch! And i have to say… my best artifacts are Maidens Beloved… because they refuse to give me good VV. So almost all my characters have a Maidens Beloved off piece… it’s painful… but as long as i get Kusanali, i’m ok
The strongbox has a higher probability of getting 4 substats, and it ends up giving you about 50% more chance for a good artifact roll. It also lets you now roll for sets like VV without dealing with subpar second sets like Maiden Beloved.
After spending a ton of time of farming literally every artifact set in the game since launch, I normally level artifacts to Lv.4 or Lv.16 to see how well it rolls and either bump it to Lv.20 or dump it into another artifact if it’s trash. Rinse and repeat. Because I typically prioritize % over flat stats except for characters that benefit from it like Shenhe, Bennet, Sara & etc.
I have levelled so many artifacts that i unintentionally have all my character equip with fully lv 20 artifacts . Maybe my standard is too low or i have been played for too long lol .
This was a really eye opening video. Personally my account has had really amazing luck with artifacts but because of that now, when I farm for new stuff I thinks all shit unless it is on par with the same stuff that got me 200 crit damage xiao(back when he first came out this was a really hard margine for low spenders especially someone who started playing only a week before his banner ended). It didn’t help that I was definitely the person who ran a domain 4 times and came out with the perfect set. But this video definitely opened my eyes to the possibility that the stuff I used to consider as trash is actually really good or at least more usable than I think.
All of my DPS characters have really good crit ratios but only one has 2000+ ATK, and that character has a 5 star weapon. It's pain, ATK hates me.
Sadly sometimes it just be like that, luckily things like NO can help carry the weight a bit
You can easily increase atk using supports
Same I have only 3 chars 2k+ atk 1 has 5 star weapon and the other 2 have blackcliff weapons.
@@ebastian1917 yeah atk is the easiest stat to buff in Genshin so i don't really understand what the op wants. And most characters doesn't even scale with atk.
Me who has 2k atk on almost every charater cuz atl loves me too much
When the artifact strongbox first came out almost all of the content creators said it was a waste of artifacts exp so I was very hesitant to try it out and now here I am with my best circlet ever (crit rate with 36% crdmg) from the strongbox
I just want them to add more artifacts to the strongbox so I don't have to farm the hell that is blizzards and crimson domains
Ok that is an insane circlet tho
some of my best pieces are from the box, most content creators are echo chambers and a play it safe type.
Blizzards is not hard to farm if you have a cracked raiden national team
Both xingqiu and bennett have noblesse from the strongbox and bennett's crit rate circlet has 33% ER 💀
And xingqiu has many pieces with +20 crit dmg lmao
The strong box is actually a great option once you're in the late game and have tones of 5 star artifacts piling up and no good artifacts to enhance. It lets you get useful artifacts such as nobless without having to waste extra resin by getting bloodstained pieces.
The social media analogy really hits close to home. Though, my opinion about artifacts still stands. It may not be the worst RNG out there, but it's pretty close to the bottom, and definitely needs improvements.
For me its not the rng, its the resin, you get like 4 tries every day and that's it, i wish we could make more condensed, because login on every day to do 4 domaind runs to just get trash, just kill my vibe to play the game
@@evertonflores8670 well it still ended up being the rng that throw you off
resin problem is actually pretty hard to fix meanwhile just reduce the amount of rng involve in getting the stats you want or give more chance like more artifacts per run or rerollable sub stats instead of getting an entire new one
I'm content with the RNG as it stands, as I said at the end I'd like some control/agency over the end result but I'd rather it be something that's truly hard to grind for that makes it worth it and like you've actually earned and crafted a great piece. Think Parametric Transformer with needing lots of mob drops, something farmable in-game that would really take some time.
I find that Honkai Impact 3rd has a way worse system while also being competitive, where you need to pull in order to get the equivalent of artifacts. On the other hand, in GI, you just need to use resin and you don't even need good artifacts to 36* the abyss depending on your knowledge + "skill". In any case, I prefer having this kind of system than having to farm for 5 hours everyday to hope dropping 1 piece of gear since I don't have a lot of time to play. Even worse, having to buy packs and spending 1K+ euros per artifact to upgrade it just like in Maplestory. In overall, artifacts isn't the core issue in GI, it's the lack of late game content imo, the artifact grind is fine as it is, even if it could be better like everything.
@@Ratheil they just need to provide us more chance to grind for them by making the resin generate faster
grinding artifact is hard because it's rng on top of rng on top of rng on top of rng
3:10 That's a good goblet. It's on set Hydro Dmg, and it has a fairly high Crit Rate even if the other substats aren't useful. Because it is on set you can have a different artifact be your off piece which can easily make up for this artifacts very slight downside of having 3 useless substats. I have a similar Electro Dmg EoSF Goblet with 12.1% Crit Rate on Raiden
"fairly high"
@@samuelluisdelespiritusanto7343 I mean that's a fairly accurate description. Since the max possible crit rate an artifact sub can get is 23.4%
@@carlosx8603 “fairly high” implies that that crit rate sub isn’t just plain high. I have 1 artifact with over 10% crit rate and I’m ar57. That goblet started with 3 subs, so it obviously can’t hit the max. 3 crit rate rolls! On an on-set hydro damage bonus goblet with 3 flat stats! What are the odds??
There aren't 3 useless substats, it's 2
@@serulu3490 HP would only be very slightly useful on Ayato, and HP% would be strictly better.
Just want to share a story. So I was playing my friend's acc and I got a anemo dmg vv goblet with cr. It was good until my friend raised it and got it to I think 40+ cv, at that point it was godly. Then maybe an hour later I was playing another friend's acc and got a cd circlet with cr substat. I'm still wondering why I can guide others to a treasure I cannot possess
Literally same, I can't get a 30cv emblem on my main account even tho I tried for 8 months, I logged onto a friend's acc and just rolled a 40 cv one out of my ass. Afterwards onto the next account, I rolled an on set hydro goblet for 35+ cv.
why am I actually forgetting wth cv stands for-
@@Pixelat1on crit value
@@Pixelat1on crit value
@@Pixelat1on cv = crit value, 2xcrit rate + crit damage
Good video. People’s expectations are becoming ridiculous. The HoD cup with hydro and 4 rolls of CR is a very strong artifact. If you are aiming for a similar artifact with 5-6 rolls of CR and CD, you could spend tens of thousands of resin and not get that.
My Itto only has 2 on set husk pieces, the flower and feather. Everything else is random. His crit ratio is 70:160 which is great to me, just wish he had a full set.
Literally me
In my case i got ""Lucky"" i got a good def goblet on set for him, but couldn't never get a single fucking feather 💀
And once i get one, is just EM, HP and ATK
I went 2pc bloodstained 2pc pale flame over 4pc pale flame for eula since the artifacts were far better than 4pc. It's better to stick with the better artifacts while you grind away for the 4pc set or in my case just be happy with 2pc 2pc because it would take months to get a 4pc set as good.
duude same situation with my ningguang. archaic has failed me so many times im considering going 2pc glad/nobl or 2pc glad/shime
My Itto is 69/260, full husk set 😎
I just leveled up my atk% goblet with crit rate and damage and guess what, it all rolled to HP%!
My condolences :(
youre not alone
Damn thats a great piece, for someone most probably
@@sleeper5905 a future character might need it lol but I'll just feed it. I lack resources now.haha
Its a Hu Tao/Ayato piece, definitely not copium
Edit: whoops forgot the /s
When it comes to the strongbox right now; I highly recommend people to just save all their 5* artifacts and farm it after Dendro drops (if it drops with Sumeru, that is). That way you can knock out 2 birds with 1 stone. Dendro%, and farming off-pieces. I'm 2/3rd the way to completely filling my bag with artifacts lol
10:33 - That is my Hu Tao. Walked into Crimson Witch domain; got her full 4 piece set 60/220 within 8 runs 🤣 Best extreme I've ever had in this entire game.
The same happened with my diluc. I decided to settle for the first correct main stat 4 piece set and roll with it. Ended up giving me 60/140 crit ratios. lol
Same happened to my accidentally pulled Ganyu in the Blizzard domain way back in 1.2. Her 4-pc blizzard had 19.4-125 crit (94.4-233.6 in total with every other sources of crit) within a week of farming, and yet Ayaka still doesn't have a single good sands, goblet or circlet.
Oh shit you're right! I have over 1000 artifacts because I'm really bad at deciding what to throw away and what to keep. After watching this video I wanted to go and clear that mess up, roll into strongboxes, level the good ones etc. But indeed it would save a ton of time if I did the strongbox rolls after dendro gets released! Gonna wait a few more months I guess haha
This is also why you should save all of the artifact boxes from the Spiral Abyss for this reason. More artifacts stockpiled will mean higher chance of getting that Dendro goblet from the strongbox sooner
@@259 that is, if you actually want to farm dendro. If you don't you absolutely should not stockpile them because you'll have a lower chance of getting an element you want
I don't think the artifact rng is bad either however it becomes excessive when you take into consideration the resin system attached to it. I think artifacts would be a lot more manageable if the end was actually in sight when deciding to farm them, for example with weapon ascension materials I know roughly how many it will take to 1-90 a new weapon but with artifacts it is impossible to know where the end is because of the rng. This causes an issue where you don't really now how much resin it will consume from the resin you get this week or even month. Farming for artifacts is the only way this game has ever burnt me out and I do think some changes are necessary to at least have that end in sight. I don't know what this new mechanic should be but I do think there should be one.
This is precisely why I don't do heavy artifact grinding in one go. Helps I'm not late game numbers world 8 like everyone else (would be nice if rng would at least give me 5 star artifacts more consistently but meh), but I do my best to spread out artifact grinding. Like this week we had the ley lines so I made sure to spend resin in that instead and whatever is left over can be divided between bosses, ascension materials etc with some some artifact grinding. Its a lot more manageable doing only a few days on artifact grinding at a time, or at least switching beteeen the characters I'm building so I don't get burnt out on that one location.
Though I'm almost wondering how jacked I can make some of my characters by flipping sets. The healing sets give way better crit rolls than anyone else, meanwhile I've gotten a handful of healing goblets from pick-your-dps set.
@@amandaslough125 why are you artifact grinding when you're not guaranteed 5* artifacts?
Exactly and the dude who made this vid probably throws money at the game and refills his resin constantly. Which is exactly why he doesn't seen any problem with the current system. Very possible he's partnered with mihoyo alot of content creators are.
@@coltonsmith3270 i wish i was at that ar level where i didnt have to worry about artifacts
😭 how!!!!!
I feel like for the people whose standards are "too high" it's probably more accurate to think that they have good artifacts already but can't get anything better than what they have. For example the artifact they have is CR - 6.2 CD - 20.7 HP - 555 HP% - 4%
But the artifact they want would replace the hp stats with atk% and EM with higher crit rolls.
Yeah as an ar59 player anything below 40 cv is a bit meh
@@geniusaitoolfinder would you like 45 CV with flat defence and hp? Or 30 CV with high attack + ER/EM?
@@serulu3490 45 cv for sure because atk can be buffed externally same for em and er is nice but 4.5 shouldnt ruin a rotation
This artifact sounds like my Hu Tao Goblet, and actually she makes use of the stats in the Example artifact.
I never farmed noblese, I only use the strongbox. The artifacts i have are godly, i recomend using it
I can’t be bothered to do that domain anymore lol So I’ve also just used the strongbox for noblesse
Yeah, me too. One of the reasons was because I couldn't find the domain on the map lol
A lot of players dispose artifacts that has just one crit stat on a 4 stat starter. In my experience those artifacts are the ones that surprisingly rolls well. For instance I recently got a 4 stat starter, with just crit damage and atk % and it rolled 35+crit damage and 1 into attack % =9.9% atk. That artifact is one of my highest crit damage pieces.
Now for me, because this piece has high crit damage, I try finding a another piece that has high crit rate rolls to compliment with it and bring balance in stats.
It's nice to have both crit rate and damage rolls on all pieces, but it's still possible to work around the imbalances in rolls per pieces.
same except it was crit dmg and 3 flat substats. everything rolled into crit dmg and it has almost 40%. like, obviously it doesn't happen often but if you're late into the game you can risk it. personally i have every 4*, all standard 5* and about half limited ones and all my characters are at least lv 71, most with talents lv 6 at least because i like to switch things around. for example I got c2 Lisa from standard so i wanted to use her in the abyss. gave her prototype amber which I R5ed for my healer Mona and put emblem on her, she kinda slapped with raiden, ayato and sucrose. my point is, my resin spend is mostly artifacts + some on talent books/mora so I don't mind leveling potentially trash pieces to 16/20 if they're on set. so that 38% crit dmg piece even with useless other stats is still better then any other circlets on set, it makes it possible to actually have an off piece good goblet instead of an avarage one. so, you never know. i wouldn't recommend it to newer players though, definetely farming artifacts is the least resin efficient activity to increase your damage, newcomers should focus on levels and talents first to make their lives easier
If it's 1 crit with 3 bad stats, I may trash them bc the stat efficiency could be too low on my account at this point even IF it all rolled crit (unlikely). And I base this off of what happens when I use an optimizer. Many of my only 1 crit pieces don't get used, but I do use a lot of characters who benefit from a lot of stats (ER, ATK, EM) and not just crit. Tho, this depends on the piece, character, and what my other artifacts look like. But for new players, it's completely bonkers to trash that. +8/12 it and decide after that
@@JohnJillky yeah my point, it depends on an account. My goal is to have every character equiped so i won't have to swap artifacts so my standard for those that aren't my top 15 loved ones are a bit lower xD but yeah if i do abyss and want to use Yanfei i will swap crimson from Hu Tao even though Yanfei has her own artifacts but they're less cracked. But my standards are still probably a bit too high, even if it's a support I won't use a lot i still need at least 60 crit rate ~120 crit dmg with decent other stats (depends on a character obviously, Lisa needs ER, Noelle DEF etc.). However i don't really bitch about my artifacts for those characters, i know that my goal to equip all dozens of them is ambitious anyway, but i will bitch about spending 6 months in dragonsPAIN including fragile resin, to end up with 70-140% crit on Tartag (which is a minimum for my mains in my eyes) and that's with the BP bow which gives a ton of crit rate... And 1700k ATK 110% ER, 0 EM XD for so much resin it's really actually trash, if i was ftp i would have to switch to a crit rate mask to even barely make 50% crit rate and I'd have around 100% crit DMG. Six fricking months. I farmed half the time for Raiden and she's build better with ER weapon so no help with crit there. Ps. I'm a low spender so i don't have many 5* weapons and i dont refresh but god people underestimate how much designated weapons help to build a characters
Sorry for the rant hahah i don't mind some RNG but that's too much
Edit: typos
@@akwaMartyna I'm leveling every character I have and just swapping artifacts myself. I've given up on artifacts for now. I'll get back to it later 😂
Tho I do want a blizzard strayer set, I've made do without so far
the downside is that the lv 20 roll is risky, though you could just make your decision at 16. If the 4 stat misses the first roll, it's significantly worse than a 3-substat with one crit, that rolled the other crit stat at lv 4.
I agree the strongbox is useful, however I will stop using it. I have no artefact exp and i have many artefacts with potential that cannot be upgraded. I need to save every artifact to fodder into exp. I guess it's also because when I do get good artifacts, they don't roll well enough where it is an upgrade for some of my pieces. Every case is unique, i know someone who's the same ar as me but has 500 artifacts to fodder at any time
So true, I barely have any 5 stars, even though I can easily do lvl 80-90 domains.
@@Wonbaeofficial I am consistently farming artefacts and I have been doing so for months. I'm ar 57 and still struggling to get as many artifacts as I see on some accounts. Sometimes I wonder if those people never farm mora or upgrade other characters cause otherwise how do they have so many artifacts
I'm usually overflowing with Artifact EXP but I have moments where I run out, in those moments I either go back to artifact farming (the shiny spots in the overworld) or I start going through all the failed +4/8/12/16's I have to use those as EXP since at any given time I have at least 100ish of those lying around.
When it comes down to it my acquisition of artifacts worth taking to level 20 just isn't as fast as the rate at which domains can give me fodder. This is something that'll change wildly from person to person. Since I've played since launch I have a very strong base of artifacts on both accounts and true upgrades just don't come around enough.
@@Ratheil i have strong artifacts since I have farmed for months, I guess I don't have a lot to fodder since I am building many characters and I don't want to change artifacts between characters when I want to use them. I have around 12 built characters, each with their own artifacts. I also don't farm the artifact route usually as I just don't have time some weeks so I just enter, do some domains/bosses then log out. I still have the chasm quest and the chasm to explore as I have been particularly busy these past few weeks
Same thing is happening to me, i have some potentially good artifacts but don't have the exp to upgrade it.
Great vid and excellent point.
Players really do need to temper their expectations. Comparing yourself to others makes you vain and bitter and keeps you from appreciating the things you have for what they are. And I’ve always believed that Genshin Impact, with its lack of pvp and leaderboards and any form of in-game competitive gameplay, embodies that very virtue.
the goblet you showed is really good, but for me, everything that goes above 7% crit rate is, since i just happen to be unlucky with crit rate, while i do get high crit damage rolls. my standards are just: is the artifact i got better or worse than what i already have on my account, if its worse i probably wont use it, if its about the same then i'll keep it. because it got me SO long to get an electro goblet, i do not care if it all goes to def, atleast i can replace the four star one with hp rolls. i tend to give a lot of artifacts a chance, i needed a feather on the vv set, i got one with def, hp, and atk, all flat stats, i got it to four and got crit damage. it rolled 23%, and that isn't the best (i have pieces with 34%, but thats only rare and not even necessary) but it's better than a four star with flat def rolls. regarding the strongbox: i got my two best artifacts from there, and it is so cool.
It is about the same for me ! My bennett has the best artifacts of my account, 40cv but NONE OF THEM ARE FROM CRIMSON WITCH SET !! My goblet have 20cv which is 2 crit rolls so if I get a pyro dmg CW cup even if it's bad I will instantly equip it on him so I could keep the flower, the feather or the timepiece !
Ur standards r just a tad bit higher than mine. And ur artifacts r clearly better too.
Bro,it’s just the opposite with me.I wish I had more crit dmg roll than crit rate.I get more crit rate than crit dmg.For example,I have a flower which is 13 crit rate and 6 crit dmg
The great thing is that you can use fully upgraded artifacts to level up new ones. So just use mediocre artifacts, feed them to good ones when you get them and then to great ones. Rolls are a thing so this isn't at all a perfect strategy, but it helps a lot at building new characters
Problem with that retoric is : when you already have « ok artifacts » on a character, you need « amazing artifacts » to perfect your characters.
When you’re in that step, you need those overall 230 Crit Value on your character.
But conversely, if you're at the "I need amazing artifacts" stage, it is fine that it takes time to get those. The problem is more when you want to start playing a new character, and you just want a decent set, not a great one, but decent, and one slot just absolutely refuses to cooperate.
@@Axterix13my freeze team 4p blizzard Layla ended up amazing while 4p blizzard kaeya just cannot get a good blizzard piede for his life (although he does have good energy recharge)
Honestly sometimes the ok kind of artifacts always turns out the better.
Some of my best are the ones that started out with one crit stat/ATK%/an useless stat. The Crit pops up on the 4th and everything piles into the crit stats. Adversely some of my absolute worst artifacts are ones that started with 4 as a base including double crit.
Watching a few of these types of videos, I realized that “op” artifacts are the one that have crit rate and crit DMG in substats (and after spending 37 fragile resin, I have got some good artifacts enough to leave raiden and Barbara satisfied, and leave kaeya, Bennett, tighnari and gaming slightly satisfied), and I asked other AR 50+ players for their advice, but they say that my artifacts are a beyond average than the artifacts of other people at my AR
One of my early mistakes in artifact farming was trying to crit hoard , i didn't realise the value of those other stats , now that I have realised my life has become infinitely more easier
That Hydro Goblet is decent imo, I'd use it for Childe 'cause of it being on-set and Congrats on the Physical Goblet looking really good (hehe)
Thank you for the Video, it's exactly what I tell my friend
The standard of "what is good enough" is just different for people and sometimes decent gets the job done as well instead of grinding mindlessly
I always aim for usable artifacts before good ones. As long as the main stat is good and there's at least one or two good substats, it's better than nothing. However, it is indeed very frustrating to see those pieces not be as good as more optimal pieces could be.
People just value crit too much when atk% and er is just as important for most characters.
I totally get your point, but the thing is, you into can have so many artifacts to fodder into others, so that you do have to be critical with which ones you want to give a chance.
To a degree yes, there's a healthy balance in the middle where you give artifacts that have untapped potential a chance but don't go crazy upgrading everything with a single crit stat/missing stat that could be crit. It's a dynamic situation that changes over time.
My big problem with artifacts is when I start out with a decent one and the game gives me flat HP twice, flat attack twice, and flat defense once even though I had a good elemental goblet with crite rate substat. It just takes so much damn farming and mora to even begin to sort through the artifacts.
earlier, i received a good glad feather from the strongbox after 1 month of feeding trash to it. i tested my luck to see the bonus substat since it only has crit rate on it, and crit damage was added. then i fed a trash level 20 and it all went to hp:)))
Chongyun was the first 4-star character I got from Genshin wishes, and I INSTANTLY fell in love with him. I've been lucky enough to C6 him, as well. I know that he's rated relatively low amongst meta-Travelers, but I personally love that he can increase my Itto's attack speed and has good synergies with other claymore users (my favorite weapon type).
I recently decided to stop hoarding my resources (cough cough 17 crowns collecting dust in my inventory cough cough) and REALLY build him, and see how I can use other units like Rosaria and Shenhe to maximize his potential; this has been SO much fun.
The Peak of Vindagnyr is a menace, an abomination, a tragedy, a barren hellscape, a ruthless tyrant, a cruel mistress, and a brutal trial all in one. It is the place where dreams are forever corrupted, where aging becomes rapid, where families are torn apart, and where patience yields to rage. It is a domain completely absent of good people; it's inhabitants drink the blood of their victims from the useless goblets that sustain players' presences in its shadowy depths.
The Peak of Vindagnyr is where Dad went so many years ago. Now, I've reunited with him...and now, neither of us can go back to Mom.
10/10 experience will farm this domain until the next cataclysm.
I’m kind of a masochist when it comes to farming artifacts. Here’s my routine:
1 - I look at what my character needs based on his scaling, weapon given and role
2 - I choose what set I want for them
3 - On a piece of paper I write “Flower of Life”, “Plume of Death” etc.
4 - For every piece of the set I choose the Main Stat
5 - then, on another page, I write the Sub Stat I need/want until I reach 20 (4 Sub Stat for 5 pieces). Max 5 times each Sub Stat, you can’t get the same one on the same piece
6 - I distribute them equally on the pieces
7 - I start farming the set until I get a PERFECT artefact. If my piece had to be:
Sands of Eon
Elemental Mastery
ATK
ATK%
CRIT Rate
CRIT DMG
I don’t stop until u get that EXACT piece. If it’s missing a stat I level it up to level 4 and check. If it is the stat I wanted I continue, otherwise I’ll continue farming
8 - once I found the perfect piece I level it up to level 20 but what I hope for is kind unusual:
I hope it rolls once for every Sub Stat. I don’t believe in the supremacy of the CRIT. If Itto scales DEF he’ll need as much CRIT value as DEF so one roll on each is the best for a balanced character.
9 - repeat step 7-8 until satisfied 🥲
As a fellow masochist like yourself, I too use either the same or shockingly similar routine whenever I farm for artifacts. Sure. My expectations may seem too high or whatever, but at least I know exactly what I’m farming for than settling for less. Especially since I want my characters to be performing at the very best they can.
Do u spend $$$? Because it will probably be years until you get a set for one team f2p let alone 2 for the abyss.
@@mhead1117 I’m a low spender, I shop only when I can’t pull a 5 star in time. I don’t spend for resin tho
When your artifact almost matches with the thumbnail one (I got crit rate kabuto (the hat), crit DMG, and some other sub stats)
My best atk sands has 33% crit dmg... Along with 3 meh substats. I was so desperate for a noblesse atk sands that I took a gamble on it. The emotional pay off of rolling everything on that single was *mwah* chef's kiss.
Artifact Strongbox was a savior for me who frequently use that Burst buff set.
You tell me. Spend Resin and get useless Physical artifact, or spend artifacts you already wasted Resin on to get that artifact you wanted.
3:10 That is a very nice artifact for the average player due to 24.8 crit value and having Hydro DMG on a Hydro set cup
As for my own standards, I think that if you can have artifacts for a character (without crit weapons or ascension stats) to be like 60/105 then I'd considering it pretty good in my opinion
I really needed this video. I was really scared to roll for artifacts, but thanks for the advice! You've geniunely been the most reliable genshin channel on the internet, and i thank you for that on our community's behalf. Entertaining and informative? You're an absolute gem!
6 weeks + 15 fragile resin at blizzard strayer domain and only 2 useable pieces for Ayaka (1 is only 17cv gross) yet 500 good HoD pieces... but i dont have anyone to use them on, the game does this on purpose i swear. Same with the clam domain, ive gotten so many crit pieces from there which are USLESS for my kokomi.
Time to make an Ocean hue Qiqi build and put all those crit stats to good use!!!
I generally have lower standards for sand/goblet, i find those to be the hardest to farm good piece. Circlets by their very nature are pretty good, so my standards are higher for them. Strongbox, I thought it was a scam at first, still kinda do. On the other hand theres nothing to do with all the artifacts laying around in your inventory.
I think the main issue with artifacts rn is that its so resin consuming, especially since u have to use it for bosses and talents also. it spreads your supply so thin that the RNG of it feels unfair
I do agree to an extent. Basically the artifact grind struggle for me is trying to get an UPGRADE. I have usable pieces all around and it gets so much more difficult when you're trying to balance 4 stats on a character (Crit, ATK, ER), ESPECIALLY on Emblem artifact set users. Getting optimal energy recharge, good crit AND elemental damage and the atk/hp substats etc is HARD. artifact grinding from scratch feels so much better because eventually you throw on a 4pc set of usable artifacts and hope for an upgrade. My raiden shogun GENUINELY has double crit on *every single piece* but I still have a sub-50% crit rate. I think bare minimum QoL improvements to artifact system would be the ability to reset an artifact to level 0 while maintaining substats, or completely rerolling substats and preserving the main stat.
i might be cursed by hp
but as a hu tao main.. i see that as an absolute dub
Awesome tips ratheil! I hope u add these tips in a follow up vid. I've helped friends with their accts and so many people don't know the treasure they're sleeping on
1) Getting a 3 sub-stat artifact with Crit rate, crap, and more crap, and unlocking Crit DMG as the 4th stat is the same as having a 3 sub-stat artifact with both Crit rate and Crit DMG.
With this logic, Ive rolled tons of artifacts that looked like the hydro goblet in the vid, and ended up with a godly 30-35 Crit value.
2) If it's a Crit circlet, keep in mind that you CAN'T get the same main stat as your sub-stat. So if it's a Crit rate circlet with 3 substats, just try rolling to +4 and see if it gets Crit DMG. You never know, it has the potential for 31.2 Crit DMG in substats.
3) you also don't lose any artifact XP by throwing a +4 into a new artifact (or maybe you do, but it's a negligible amount). I've used the same +4 fodder about 20+ times before, without it ever going down to +3. Just about everything is worth trying to +4 at least
yeah i think ur kind of right tho xD
but i wanna tell you this anyway :
so i have an average resin contingent of 200 resin a day (sometimes i do top up one if i have the primos or a fragile or transcient resin) and since 12 weeks i am farming the Viridescent Domain every day. That means i spent 12 weeks x 7 days x ~ 200 resin = 16.800 resin on the viridescent domain since then. and i happened to monitor my artifact drops todo some statistics on my average luck since i have nothing else to do anyway xDD. I got 1139 gold artifacts in total. Sadly my luck was so bad that i got 2 EM viridescent pieces (wich is 0.17% of all drops) and 5 EM pieces in total (wich is 0.43% of all drops). Additionally i got 783 DEF mainstat pieces in total (wich is equal to 68,74% of all drops) and the last 30,83% are shared of feathers, plumes and other mainstat pieces such as HP%, ATK%, elemental/physicalDMG%, CRITDMG/RATE.
According to the wiki the drop chance for EM pieces is 2.5% which means i should have 28 EM pieces in total and the chance between maidens set and viridescent set is 50/50, which means i should have got 14 virdescent em pieces. where are my artifacts xDDD
And since this is the viridescent set and i wanna stack as much EM on my Venti / Kazuha i dont really care about the substats lmao.
yeah what d'you think when i will get those huh xD
Me 2 circlets with EM on one day😯
This is so relatable. Seeing everyone being so lucky just kinda kills the spirit for me a little. Hardwork pays off, but seeing those who dont need to work hard and still have better results than you just make you wanna quit so much. I myself been stuck with a one piece EM for kazuha and farming for 4 weeks, but i assume it's gonna take me more time than you just to get some good enough ones :(
I actually didn't mind artifact farming for a long time...until the Lost Valley came out. The Lost Valley is the bane of my existence because I only have one character who could use either of the artifact sets (Xiao). It was a nightmare to farm decent artifacts for him and it felt like such a waste of resin because, for many other domains, the artifacts farmed could be used on SOMEBODY. I'm hoping in the future that genshin will release more characters that will benefit from the Lost Valley to make the domain much more worthwhile
Extra artifact u can put in strongbox
The Artifact system in this game is too frustrating for me so i decided i'd skip it entirely and rely on Gladiator/Wanderer alone, maybe sprinkle in some 2pc Berserker, and i noticed again and again just how low my standards are, for obvious reasons, but i'm happy with this decision.
Oh and the Strongbox was godsent for me
That’s a interesting idea
Youre a madman and i like it.
Though i think you should atleast farm the shimenawa/emblem domain so you can slap on a 36% atk bonus on a double two piece or give 20% er to whoever needs it
@@ascaredmilipede7971 I kinda wanna keep my acc as gimmicky as it is now, i know i'm missing out on very good sets but i wanna see where never farming artifact domains will get me
Also the Abyss drops two 18% ATK sets right now and for ER i have Exile
@@drunkcapybara7004 ah i can understand that. So what charachters have you built? A true gimmicky wanderers set isnt complete without Charge DPS Diona
@@ascaredmilipede7971 i got the resources due to not farming artifacts to have recently leveled all my chars to lv90 with at 6/6/6 talents, but i mainly use Klee, Ganyu and Ayaka as main DPS in my teams
Ganyu has 4pc Wanderer, Klee has Wanderer/Gladiator, Ayaka has Gladiator/Noblesse
I do occasionally try stuff like CA spam Diona though
I had pretty low expectations at the beginning. But then all my artifacts started rolling all DEF, no matter how good substats were to begin with. Now i won't even consider leveling up until i get crit rate and crit dmg substats, which is extremely rare to get (and it's still rolls all DEF lmao). It would be so nice to have some kind of pity on artifacts, that RNG just kills me.
I totally agree on strongbox. At first content creators are all saying strong box is a trap etc. But what I saw in strongbox is opportunity, opportunity. On the first day of strong box, I used all my trash artifacts (500-700 pcs) and suddenly my Ganyu is bonkers! 55/210 crit and a 200 EM!! All the rolls goes to EM and crits only except for the circlet since thats the hardest.
Sadly some still say it's a trap even today. I think they are definitely just being dismissive of it as a meme because much like domains it will give more trash than treasures but I some people will believe them and it will reinforce their already negative thoughts about it.
Bro your thumbnail hooked me well played I'll subscribe now hopefully the channel grows to the moon
I'd label that hydro goblet you asked about as perfectly serviceable. If all other artifacts for a character were of that quality I'd just move on to farm other things. I prefer raising talent levels and new characters over perfecting artifacts. It's just more fun. Though I do have a bit higher standards for one of my favoured characters compared to some random character I levelled just because I thought it might be fun.
This right here is one of my favorite Genshin videos, and I think you need to promote this every few months in order to make sure people see it and understand its OKAY to only have 2 stats that are good on a piece,. This video was the Push I needed to finally give Emblem Domain Grinding a try, and I've been having a Blast wiith my Weird Rosaria National Team. So really, thank you so much for making this, and you earned yourself a like on every video and a sub.
Weird enough I managed to fully build my Ganyu with Full Wanderer's set by feeding trash artifacts to the strong box. Also most of my good off set artifacts came from it.
I literally farm the emblem set for Raiden since this domain is out.
Over 2 years of constant suffering and I still don't have really good artifacts.
I really have no explanation of this why this domain screws me over for years.
Maybe it is because I am using Raiden and the game automatically thinks the artifacts have to be bad because I have a character that needs it.
That is my only explanation.
3:27
This artifact is kinda scuffed but it depends on the character that uses it
On childe it's cope, because 3 dead stats
On koko it's just bad, if flat hp was hp% it would be ok also 3 dead stats
On ayato it's ok, this the type of artifact you switch out once you get a better one.
It mainly depends on what the character needs, and how many sub stats that character can utilize.
The strongbox really needs more love! I've gotten the majority of my 4pc sets from it. Like 3 full Noblesse sets, Wanderer's for Ganyu, good glad pieces and recently Crimson, TF and Thundersoother. I've actually never set foot in the crimson domain, and from what I hear that's a blessing.
As far as the worst domain for me it's also undoubtedly Peak of Vindagnyr. I was trying to gear up my beloved Kamisato siblings for ages but that domain only contains feathers and flowers!! Luckily the strongbox was able to finish out the sets for me pretty well.
Oh, and good job... now I really want to boot up the old PS2 and replay FFX. That nostalgic music...
Love the video. The only thing I want to touch on is in reference to the grind. I agree that genshin’s grind amount is not bad. The amount of grind you need to do is actually super small in the grand scheme of things. What I find bad about it is the subtype of grind it is. It’s restrictive grind. So you may not spend too much total time grinding the game, but it demands that the time you do spend grinding it be consistent. Which, yes, is what most game developers strive for as it makes their numbers look good especially for a game like Genshin that doesn’t have any real replayable content. However, this is where the majority of players’ frustrations come from. Most games people play allow you to grind on your own time. Don’t have the time to play the game for a week? That’s fine, you can sit down on a day you’re free and grind for 8 hours to try and accomplish what you set out to do that day. In Genshin, you don’t have that feeling of accomplishment when you’re grinding artifacts specifically. Because the grind is time gated, if you miss a day, it truly feels bad because you cannot make up for that grind when you are capable of doing so. If compressing resin wasn’t limited or at the very least, had a much higher cap than 5, this might alleviate the frustration a lot. But as is, the time gates rng rolls on top of the layered rng doesn’t feel as though you’re accomplishing the task of progressing your account because you can go so many sessions with failed grinds. And these grinds are failures not because of your own capabilities or perseverance. So while you may succeed in bettering your account eventually, even when you succeed, it comes off the back of many sessions that can be counted as failures for most or even wasted effort for some.
your channel is highly underrated man love your commentary and humor, and yes the social media analogy in genshin impact is really well explained and it doesn't just apply to artifacts but the pulls and other aspect of RNG too.
Currently the best piece I have on my account is a geo goblet with around 17% crit dmg and 11% crit rate.....or so I thought but just realized recently that is said 17% crit RATE and 11% crit dmg
thats seems even better to me :0
Personally, that's really amazing since it feels like building crit rate is harder than crit damage.
@@dojiz7242 The reason it's the best piece I have is becuz of that. For 4 months I did not know that said crit RATE instead of dmg Idk why I might just be dumb
The quickest way, in my experience, to understand what artifacts can be good is to use an optimizer. Many pieces I used to think were meh end up being on my optimal builds. And after equipping like 5 characters for DPS, I can often have 30 and 40 CV pieces left out (usually bc those pieces have no ER)
3:06 IMO the goblet is average at best 24.8 CRIT value isn't bad (most of my artifacts have that much) the big issue comes with 3 flat stats
this is something i likely wouldn't give a chance unless i completely overlooked the flats when leveling it on impulse
for reference i trash an artifact if it has 2 flats and only 1 CRIT stat rolled
I learned to not chase the perfect crit ratio. The only thing I avoid are the flat stats (and even that only when I can).
Not to mention, I lovered my expectations for any elemental cup. I do look around for the best one, of course, but even a mediocre or a copium one is good for a time.
Farming artifacts takes time. You need to develop patience (or a thick wallet, but patience is preferred).
Also, strongbox is great! Recently I decided to build a wanderers Yanfei and it's super helpful since otherwise this set is hard to farm properly.
The Crimson Witch domain is the bane to my existence. I never really care about substats but sometimes when I see any of the flat stats (atk, def or hp) I usually disregard them and I’m aware no one should do that
The track, we went from nostalgic, to fun, to memorable, to everything. Love it dude.
10:00 well, RNG is not so random... it can be controlled the rate of prock for individual stats and sub-stats, have you noticed that after farming a lot in a domain the amount of circlets with ATK, HP and DEF are always higher than CRIT? also if you farm in the Slumbering Court Domain, you imagine that will be a piece of cake to have the DEF and HP pieces you need, but the game trolls you by giving a lot of pieces of DEF in the kokomi's set and HP in the Itto's set, that's because each individual substat have a drop rate that can be controlled by developers, so the chances are never equal, the goal is to keep you locked farming dungeons because if you have easily all you want from that domain you will loose interest in the game, at least that's what the developers think
You made a good point on that Strongbox giving me a reason to try using it cause it's not as much of a loss as I thought it was
"Too much grind" is not my main complaint. No, it's that there's no progress floor - i.e. no limit on how much effort you can invest and get _no_ return, even if you are evaluating new artefacts rationally. For a progression mechanic that is also time gated, this is both not even necessary and potentially far too punishing.
If you could e.g. burn a large number of high rarity artefacts to predictably shift an attribute of an existing one to something more favourable, that would provide at least an assurance that your efforts aren't going to be entirely wasted. Any competent game designer should be able to build that system such that it doesn't break the intended progress rate compared to average luck not using it.
This is exactly what I thought watching this video, like there is no pity system at all... At least wishing has SOME end in sight. Artifacts straight up have no way to predict what you're going to get. I had to farm 4-5 months to get a useable blizzard set. With content getting harder and harder the demand and need of better artifacts will only get higher and higher, this is probably why standards are rising. I legit can't use certain characters in abyss just because the artifact sub stats are just to underwhelming. They definitely need to rework this system.
After watching this video, I realized that I have been setting the bar too high for my artifact standard. Now looking back at my account, I'm having lots of decent artifact pieces and sets, ty!
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I thought the thumbnail was clickbait, but that was a pretty clever way to make a point.
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2:55 DAAAAMN, SHENHE PEACE
3:10 ALSO THIS CUP IS AMAZING
Oh yeah, you just reminded me. I got a Crit rate circlet on a new Xiao set and it had ATK%, EM and ER. I saw like PLEASE ER. I edned up with 11 ATK% and 21 Crit DMG
The biggest problem with artifacts is inventory space. HYV expanded it to 1500, but I still have like 1450 5* artifacts, and I’m too hesitant to sort it. And I’ve already sorted them once!
Yeah... This video did help. Basically a shining light into the darkness that is the despair of strangers (and the grind that is artifact domains that always drop the wrong set).
" I think we all have that 1 domain that screws us so many times"
me who screwed by every domain i have been farming : some people are just lucky
viridescent domain hates me, but at least it's super quick to farm, especially if you have venti. a punch in the gut when you get maiden's for over a week, but it is what it is
Thank you for this advice. I have waaaaaay too high of standards apparently and took your advice and rolled a deep wood memories goblet and it got crit damage and increased its crit rate. All I had to do was take a small step and it paid off!! (I will say, it’s on YaoYao LMAO but cuz Nahida’s current artifacts have such incredible EM and CD%)
I paused on the hydro goblet, in my opinion it’s a decent to good artifact I believe that’s 3 rolls into crit rate so actually good the only bad thing is the flat stats that not really any character wants, however if I got this piece it could be an upgrade for a few characters that I have (I have been playing since launch)
Also (hi again) the strong box has given me some of if not my best pieces so if you have a set you want to farm check the strong box first it can save you so much resin
I hate the Crimson Witch domain more than any other. I've had terrible luck there and although I don't find it difficult to complete, it is dreadfully slow. I got Klee right when she first released so she was one of the first characters I built but now her artifacts are outdated and I'm struggling to find the motivation to go back in there and get replacements.
It always feels like chance to get crit stats on artifact is lower than Other Stats like Flat Atk/HP
HEALING BONUS
Watching this made me remember the time when pyro goblets were as rare as billets and always getting cursed with bad sets with good main and substats and great sets with bad main and substats.
100% agree with the strong box, i was farming the new domain which had vermilion hereafter and echoes of an offering to get one of the two pieces for my yae and all the bad pieces i got i fed into the glad strong box and got 1 very good sans of time which is what i needed for my yae miko since i had a good feather for her so thanks to the strong box i got a very good 2 piece glad, to go along with my 2 piece shimenawa.
and i now am using the strong box for the noblesse set which imo still is like one of the best sets in the game as it brings a lot of supportive power and the extra 35% burst damage is the charry on top
The vermillion domain sounds like a great way to get a bunch if attack percent 2 pieces. Is it worth it though with having so many natural Glad pieces and getting a bunch of SR pieces while farming emblem?
@@J.sh_CDN I just got very unlucky with glad and only got 2 good feathers lmao so I had to farm the new vermilion set 🤣 but in the end I got my final glad so it was worth
Just discovered your channel and I’m actually happy that I did!
Glad to have you here! :)
I think if you have only few 5* artifacts it may be better to keep them as exp. But if they pile up than the strongbox becomes a really nice option. Anyway I really enjoyed this video. Keep it up!
Damn, this is the first time I saw someone talking about the pov of players when it comes to artifact's standards. This is actually a really great video to share with the Genshin community. Although some might be in denial about the truth of artifact standards, it all comes to the opinion of themselves. Overall, a great video with great details. Keep up the effort! 🎉
3:20 it actually depends on the context, if it is for a DPS Critkomi, its beautiful, if it is for a Yelan, its perfect, don't even touch it, if it is for Tartaglia, baby its good but i know you can get a better artifact but it should do as a place holder
Since i dont use my koko as critkoko, i would absolutely use it on my Xingqiu, its a rlly good piece
6:09 That was literally my On set Raiden flower and I never thought I'd be so happy getting an artifact
The two extremes you talked about is as actually me and my friend. He always complains to me about artifacts, but when I handled his account, I get his characters built in a few days.
But on the other hand, he almost always wins 50/50, while Im stuck with my 3 time loss streak.
I think the other thing people underestimate is non-crit stats. EM or HP on their hu tao, EM on melt ganyu, ATK and ER or Ayaka
People go for the highest crit ratio only and if it doesn’t have double crit they don’t care
People are probably not rolling a lot of artifacts that have Crit and 2 other good stats that could have been a balance addition to their other artifacts and are therefore missing out on good pieces
The Genshin community needs more Ratheils. I swear this dude gets it.
As A Man who likes to main Pyro DPS, Fuck Farming the Crimson. Shit is just too hard my guy even when when I go to co op mos of the time It takes about 3 and almost 4 minutes to finish that domain.
living for the ffx music in the background
3:20
I saw that cup and verbaly said "Mona?" oop
I couldn't agree more. This is so true. I am really tired of viewing comments from most videos cause most of the time I come across a complaint on the artifact RNG system. lmao.
This is a fairly good take on artifacts. I am one of the people who commented on a previous video about how it legitimately takes months to fully build a character. However, I did mention that I believe there are levels of being "built". There is the, throw spare leveled artifacts with mostly correct main stats level of built, the proper set with passable stats level, the good, and the fully built level. As I see it anyway. Fully built isn't actually the final level, I have just given up on what could be better. Fully built is when the crit rate and damage are at least 50/100, your ER is good enough that it isn't a slog to get the burst back up, and atk is suitable. Depending on character of course.
I can usually manage passable after a month of consistent farming a single set. I still only have a single character I consider fully built, two at good, and 5 or so doing passable levels of built. My standards for consideration of leveling is pretty simple, does it have two desirable substats, regardless of main stat since someone will eventually come along that may need it. Element goblets are an exception, I will hang on to them if they have at least one desirable substat. If that is aiming too high, I don't think I can engage with opinions in this area anymore. I don't watch account reviews, and I only ever look at someone elses artifacts if I am watching a build guide. So I'm not doing much comparison.
I have got my Wanderer’s set exclusively from the strongbox and have gotten some irreplaceable pieces, I seriously do recommend it if you find yourself with an excess of 5* artifacts.
i need a good set for wanderer, i only use gladiator
This dude is right. I just threw in some 30-something rolls into the strongbox RNG, got one average artifact, was needed due to the EM mainstat, and got a kick-ass tier artifact flower with 21.8% CRIT DMG, 8.2% Crit Rate, 4.5% ER. I had never had this roll before. My Crit DMG is 15% at best in my other sets.
This was so good to watch! And i have to say… my best artifacts are Maidens Beloved… because they refuse to give me good VV. So almost all my characters have a Maidens Beloved off piece… it’s painful… but as long as i get Kusanali, i’m ok
The strongbox has a higher probability of getting 4 substats, and it ends up giving you about 50% more chance for a good artifact roll. It also lets you now roll for sets like VV without dealing with subpar second sets like Maiden Beloved.
After spending a ton of time of farming literally every artifact set in the game since launch, I normally level artifacts to Lv.4 or Lv.16 to see how well it rolls and either bump it to Lv.20 or dump it into another artifact if it’s trash. Rinse and repeat. Because I typically prioritize % over flat stats except for characters that benefit from it like Shenhe, Bennet, Sara & etc.
I have levelled so many artifacts that i unintentionally have all my character equip with fully lv 20 artifacts . Maybe my standard is too low or i have been played for too long lol .
This was a really eye opening video. Personally my account has had really amazing luck with artifacts but because of that now, when I farm for new stuff I thinks all shit unless it is on par with the same stuff that got me 200 crit damage xiao(back when he first came out this was a really hard margine for low spenders especially someone who started playing only a week before his banner ended). It didn’t help that I was definitely the person who ran a domain 4 times and came out with the perfect set. But this video definitely opened my eyes to the possibility that the stuff I used to consider as trash is actually really good or at least more usable than I think.
I’ve got really good artifact substats luck, just that it doesn’t go on to 5* artifacts…