Character swapping is such a good mechanic and I believe Sonic as a series could have majorly benefited from following this formula in some of their other games.
I mean, Sonic '06 did have certain character-specific sections in some levels, unfortunately it was executed poorly, but it is still such an interesting idea, with lots of potential, for example every character could have something unique to them (apart from, say, the gliding/flying), so that every section, which is built around that specific character, has some value to it that isn't just graphically swapping out the characters. '06 definitely needs a remake as well, at least Heroes was alright and didn't suffer nearly as many problems as '06 did. However I'd love remakes for both. And/or sequels, eventually!
@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 Luckily we have Project '06 which showcases the full potency of the character specific levels and it's amazing, from what I've played. On a side note, I also think Unleashed would have majorly benefited from swapping between the Hedgehog and the Werehog on the fly as opposed to implementing the Night and Day stages, which sounds crazy, cuz the Werehog is much slower than normal Sonic and would seem to be a hindrance to Sonic trying to get through the stages as quickly as possible, but if they take the Heros approach, the Werehog could be a way to access shortcuts by stretching across platforms or breaking through walls, which would save Sonic a lot of time. And the same applies for the hack and slash stages. Switching between Hedgehog and Werehog as combo extenders would be sick.
If there is a remake of this game, something that absolutely cannot be missed is a boss fight against the neo metal Sonic. Something that wasn't in the original game
🎀 Any remake or remaster would absolutely have to fix the asinine character fights, the only consistent strategy outside of the speedrunning community is just spamming a bunch of tornados until either they die or you die, do what Sonic Adventure 2 did and have a few set attacks and open states for each formation rather than have them randomly and chaotically attack you with whatever
We need an adventure remake. Put 1 and 2 together as one game. The level design,story,characters, and music score is still top tier. With the new engine and graphics it could be one of the best.
This was the goat of Sonic games to me. A remaster would be nice. They would need to improve the controls so it doesn't feel like everyone is runnin' on ice. The formation moves need to be retooled for team battles. The stages would definitely benefit from a bigger change than a difficulty slider and a "find the thing" mission. And the bosses bein' more interactive while runnin' like in Advance 2 or Unleashed would be dope. Just the idea of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles together doin' a mad dash to foil another Eggman scheme fills me with hype.
I feel like a “sequel”would be more beneficial than an actual remake. The main issues of heroes outside of the slippery physics is the bare bones story and repetition of the almost the exact same stages in the same order. A sequel would give the opportunity to create a better story with unique levels for each team, improve the overall physics engine and make quality of life changes such as being able to swap characters mid air so you can better chain movement options to improve gameplay speed. For example being able to swap directly from a homing attack into a glide into flight and back into another homing attack could make it possible to have much more creative and rewarding platforming by having these more complicated paths be used as faster ways to complete a stage. I’d also make more minor changes too like having flight formation be togglable between then all stacked up and the flight character leading from the ground with slightly different move sets for each (as no offence but the 3 talk stack is goofy looking)
Also for option for sonic heroes remake it would be amazing for having Easy: falling only takes half a heart away, and you have infinite lives. Medium: falling into a hole costs you a full heart if you lose three lives and you restart at the checkpoint. But in the option menu that would be amazing 🥲 and cool at the same time worst stage definitely the frog forest where you had to chase with an alligator I went to 0 and then had to start the level all over again and it wasn’t fun for me at all so I hope sega will add this feature from jumanji wild adventure where you get to choose your own difficulty but this time it’s in setting and your characters don’t lose any rings or lives at all.
And in my opinion the energy plant stage is another worst stage because I was playing team sonic and team dark and I was trying to escape and then all of a sudden my characters were just off the screen and just lost the rings and had to start all over and I don’t like that when it happens. I had to start all over and I almost through my controller to the ground and almost broke it.
I have nostalgia for it, but even back when I was a child I knew it wasnt 'one of the best Sonic games ever made'. Mainly due to the music and level themes. FAR too many bugs. Making us do the same stages 4 times each was a waste of time. And Chaotix' run as a whole alone with all of the challenge mode missions were absolutely terrible. And dont get me started on those special stages...
Just wanted to say I found the art I used for this thumbnail on Reddit, made by: Reckoman12
It might seem crazy what im bout to say
Sunshine, she's here! You can take a break
Character swapping is such a good mechanic and I believe Sonic as a series could have majorly benefited from following this formula in some of their other games.
I mean, Sonic '06 did have certain character-specific sections in some levels, unfortunately it was executed poorly, but it is still such an interesting idea, with lots of potential, for example every character could have something unique to them (apart from, say, the gliding/flying), so that every section, which is built around that specific character, has some value to it that isn't just graphically swapping out the characters.
'06 definitely needs a remake as well, at least Heroes was alright and didn't suffer nearly as many problems as '06 did. However I'd love remakes for both. And/or sequels, eventually!
@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 Luckily we have Project '06 which showcases the full potency of the character specific levels and it's amazing, from what I've played.
On a side note, I also think Unleashed would have majorly benefited from swapping between the Hedgehog and the Werehog on the fly as opposed to implementing the Night and Day stages, which sounds crazy, cuz the Werehog is much slower than normal Sonic and would seem to be a hindrance to Sonic trying to get through the stages as quickly as possible, but if they take the Heros approach, the Werehog could be a way to access shortcuts by stretching across platforms or breaking through walls, which would save Sonic a lot of time. And the same applies for the hack and slash stages. Switching between Hedgehog and Werehog as combo extenders would be sick.
YOU’RE NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS BUDDY BUT
this aged well
Boy do I have news for you
this is the game of my childhood, first game i realy played on PC and walkthrough by myself
its realy need some kind of re-release
LEGENDARY GAME
What if Sega did a 3D Sonic collection, featuring both of the Sonic Adventure games, Heroes, & Unleashed?
If there is a remake of this game, something that absolutely cannot be missed is a boss fight against the neo metal Sonic. Something that wasn't in the original game
Well well well.
Apparently it’s in the works now. I really hope it happens
🎀 Any remake or remaster would absolutely have to fix the asinine character fights, the only consistent strategy outside of the speedrunning community is just spamming a bunch of tornados until either they die or you die, do what Sonic Adventure 2 did and have a few set attacks and open states for each formation rather than have them randomly and chaotically attack you with whatever
Sonic Heros was my first Sonic Game and from then on, I was hooked!
We need an adventure remake. Put 1 and 2 together as one game. The level design,story,characters, and music score is still top tier. With the new engine and graphics it could be one of the best.
Imagine a new team with silver, blaze and idk... eggman? It would be epic.
They wouldn't retroactively add characters to it.
@@ChiefMedicPururu but it would be cool anyways
marine
We need a Sonic Heroes sequel
This was the goat of Sonic games to me. A remaster would be nice. They would need to improve the controls so it doesn't feel like everyone is runnin' on ice. The formation moves need to be retooled for team battles. The stages would definitely benefit from a bigger change than a difficulty slider and a "find the thing" mission. And the bosses bein' more interactive while runnin' like in Advance 2 or Unleashed would be dope. Just the idea of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles together doin' a mad dash to foil another Eggman scheme fills me with hype.
I came here to comment but a few others beat me to it. Congrats for being born in the correct timeline
I feel like a “sequel”would be more beneficial than an actual remake. The main issues of heroes outside of the slippery physics is the bare bones story and repetition of the almost the exact same stages in the same order.
A sequel would give the opportunity to create a better story with unique levels for each team, improve the overall physics engine and make quality of life changes such as being able to swap characters mid air so you can better chain movement options to improve gameplay speed.
For example being able to swap directly from a homing attack into a glide into flight and back into another homing attack could make it possible to have much more creative and rewarding platforming by having these more complicated paths be used as faster ways to complete a stage.
I’d also make more minor changes too like having flight formation be togglable between then all stacked up and the flight character leading from the ground with slightly different move sets for each (as no offence but the 3 talk stack is goofy looking)
I Think a Team for the Remake With Mighty, Ray and Trip Named Team Horizon.
Fr. It’s still my favorite sonic game by far
It’s not the best Sonic Game on paper, however I find it my favorite, and quite possibly the most nostalgic video game of all time imo.
Congratulations. You're getting your wish.
They would have to change the ENTIRE engine, tho, bro.
Legally, Renderware is a black hole of controversy.
Also for option for sonic heroes remake it would be amazing for having Easy: falling only takes half a heart away, and you have infinite lives. Medium: falling into a hole costs you a full heart if you lose three lives and you restart at the checkpoint. But in the option menu that would be amazing 🥲 and cool at the same time worst stage definitely the frog forest where you had to chase with an alligator I went to 0 and then had to start the level all over again and it wasn’t fun for me at all so I hope sega will add this feature from jumanji wild adventure where you get to choose your own difficulty but this time it’s in setting and your characters don’t lose any rings or lives at all.
okay, I am here 2 months after you post this video to reveal that sonic heroes is probrably getting a remake revealed be 3 leakers on the same day
And in my opinion the energy plant stage is another worst stage because I was playing team sonic and team dark and I was trying to escape and then all of a sudden my characters were just off the screen and just lost the rings and had to start all over and I don’t like that when it happens. I had to start all over and I almost through my controller to the ground and almost broke it.
I really hated this game when it first came out and still do. The pacing is awful, and the glitches are plentiful.
I have nostalgia for it, but even back when I was a child I knew it wasnt 'one of the best Sonic games ever made'. Mainly due to the music and level themes.
FAR too many bugs. Making us do the same stages 4 times each was a waste of time. And Chaotix' run as a whole alone with all of the challenge mode missions were absolutely terrible. And dont get me started on those special stages...
They'll fuck it up as always, why bother
It might seem crazy what im bout to say