Luminar Neo: Want Better Results? You NEED to Master THIS.
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Yet another brilliant video Jim.
Very well explained :)
thanks so much for watching Ivan!
Jim „the Neo Legend“ Nix, best Neo Tuts out there, love your work👍👍
haha thanks so much! 🙏🏻
Another masterpiece video. Thank You.
thanks so much Greg!
Love your videos, very educative and balanced :)
thanks much for watching!
A great edit Jim 👍🏽
thanks so much Steve!
Yet again another top class tutorial Jim, thank you 👍😎
thank you so much John!
Another excellent tutorial.
thank you so much 🙏🏻
Great video Jim. Lots of useful information Thanks!
thank you JB!
Keep up the great work, Jim.
thank you Mike!
Jim, a very enjoyable video and instructive, as well. I'm also waiting for J Key and Histogram and hope that REAL layers will be coming at some point. HOWEVER, I note that (even though you're not using Sky Replace, etc.), in the developed image there is a faint bright halo effect around the palm fronds that wasn't there on the initial image. ??Your comments??
Hi Bill and thanks and yep I noticed that too. It usually comes from pushing contrast a little too far. I could go back into Supercontrast and try and balance that out a little more, which usually does the trick for me. Thanks.
Thanks for this video Jim. A good edit and it transforms the image. I did like the touch of Golden hour at the end for that warm glow feeling. I always use camera raw profiles first as not keen on the Adobe profiles for the Canon CR3 files.
thank you Ken!
Thanks for covering Raw Development!
thank you for watching Andre!
One thing that is missing and needed is CA/Purple fringing control in the optics tab.
Just superb, one tool WOW
thanks so much John!
As usual, another awesome image post-processing tutorial. For me, Luminar Neo is a plugins, a very powerful one that I use on almost all my edits (Except for panoramas because of Neo restriction on image width). As a result, I lose two things: camera profile (which my camera system is not supported by Skylum anyways) and the kelvin granularity for white balance (which I set in my main program). I didn't find the optics correction that great either. Nonetheless, I concur that all other development tools you demonstrated are awesome (despite I lose the AI piece). Thank you so much for sharing.
thanks much for watching Frederic, I appreciate that and yep it's not perfect but it's the best in Neo for sure!
Very nicely done. I agree … master Curves and you got virtually everything in the photo editing bag. A question: is the persistent brightness haloing around the palm trees an artifact (seen on my iPhone 12Pro screen), or something else?
Thanks much Barry and I think the halo around the palms is me just pushing things a little too far. 😁
Great tutorial Jim as always.
thanks so much Edward!
Thank you Jim for the tutorial. Indeed starting with the develop tool makes the difference in Neo. Perhaps you could cover a tutorial on the Camera Profile in the Develop section. Like how to get different camera profiles or even how to load custom profile. Thank you.
Thanks Johnny. I have done Google searches for camera profiles and some websites sell them. I don't see a lot of free downloads though. Then you can just select the "load custom DCP" option to add it yourself. If I find a good source for DCP then I will share and maybe make a video, but so far I haven't seen a lot honestly. thanks
@@JimNix There are a lot of "linear" camera profiles from Tony Kuyper available for free. The easiest way to find them is to search for "Tony Kuyper Linear Profile Repository". However, it is important to read through Tony's explanation of this topic.
I've been using them in Camera Raw for some time now and can say that it's well worth the effort. By the way, they also work with Luminar Neo as I just found out.
@@andreask.6872 thanks, I will check that out!
@@JimNix Thanks Jim. I would be interested in your opinion afterwards 👍or 👎 😎
@@andreask.6872 I downloaded one yesterday and played around with it for a few minutes. Very flat image, as he says on the site, which is fine. Seems to work just fine, but not sure my end result ends up being much different. I will need to experiment more and try a couple of different camera profiles to see how much of a difference it makes for me. Thanks for the suggestion though, I wasn't aware of them!
Jim, another fantastic video as usual! I wanted to ask a question off-topic (and forgive me if you have covered this in a video that I've missed). In "Sky AI" - Is it possible to add your own skies from photos?
P.S. My wife and I are going to see Spyro Gyro at the Paramount next week - and I'm hoping to do some Cityscapes while in Austin. Now that we live near Marble Falls, Austin is "the Big City" and we don't get back that often. Thank you for all you do!
Great tips as always Jim! I didn't think you could have this much impact using only Develop. Now I must start using Neo more! (Background: I've been avoiding Neo and sticking with AI because for whatever reason, Neo took FOREVER to launch on my computer! Several minutes, and this was made worse if you use it as a plugin, where it closes and launches constantly. Happily, the latest update brought Neo's start time to under 30 seconds, which is acceptable.)
Hi Carl and thanks and glad you can now use Neo more often with the update. Have fun!
Fantastic !!!
thank you so much!
Been watching you videos for a while and really like them. I will be watching them more often because when I bought the new plug ins for Noe I also renewed my membership X which last year I could watch the videos to learn the program but now after I bought the plug in and renewed my membership they want more money for the videos. I already paid for plug in that was supposed to come with Neo when it launched and now they want more money for a membership with videos. In my opinion it’s a good program but they nickel and dime you to death. You live and learn I guess. I just hate I wasted my money on their software. I have lumina Neo, luminar 4 Aurora HDR 2019 but I will not being buying anything else from them. That just my opinion.
Hey Jim. Love your videos. But I can't seem to find a video on how to use Neo if you are a first time user. I want to purchase the program. Thanks.
Hi Carlos and here is the video you need: ua-cam.com/video/biXv6F1S93o/v-deo.html and I hope it helps!
THANKS Jim!
@@cjphotography77 you bet
Nice edit and tutorial. I miss the "J" key, too.
thank you Leon and I suspect we will get it back at some point! 🙏🏻
Skylar Ewing used a technique i assume on properly exposed images. she uses a standard s curve seperately on each r g b channel, making them all overlay each other. What do you think
Hi James and it would have to depend on the image for sure, and what result you wanted out of each color channel. Thanks.
Hi Jim, Greatly enjoy your tutorials. I am using Neo as a plug in to Lightroom. When I export an image from LR to Neo, is that still a raw file? Tim
You have to send it over the right way to ensure it is a raw file. In LR you can click File>Export with Preset and I believe there is an option there for "open source files". You can also try File>Plugin Extras and select "transfer to". Try both of those but pretty sure at least one of them will send a raw file. Thanks for watching!
Superb work as always Jim, I have AI is Neo that much better? I'm on the fence as to purchasing it or not.
Hi there and thanks much. I use Neo exclusively now, but AI is still good and admittedly there are some tools missing from Neo. But, they are coming, along with new ones that AI will not have. I find Neo is quicker and more stable than AI was. So I am "all in" on Neo and haven't needed anything from AI since Neo launched. Maybe download a trial, see how it works for you? thanks
@@JimNix cheers Jim you've convinced me 👍
@@DroningaboutIreland have fun with it!
Another awesome video, but I do not have all these camera settings in the develop raw. Anthony Turnham also talks about them, but how do I get them? do I need to download them somehow?
If you have a raw file, you should have some options in the drop down, and it can vary by manufacturer. You can also Google search for specific ones by brand. Try Tony Kuyper's website (mentioned by another viewer, thankfully) that has quite a few.
Hi Jim, I have placed your Neo videos in a playlist to watch them in date order, and then use them as a reference when using the software. If Luminar Neo is at 1.0.4 please advice which is the first video that includes this update.
As always I look forward to your reply. Thanks and Regards JB
Hi JB, it's only about 4 videos ago that v1.0.4 comes into play, but honestly the instruction I provide isn't different because of it. So any place you want to start is fine. Thanks!
@@JimNix Hi Jim
I have watched about half way through your Neo videos. Absorbing your tuition will help when I buy Neo, which I will be hopefully using by the end of this month. Then I can use your code to get a lower subscription.
Thanks and Regards
JB
@@JoeB_BSc thanks much and have fun!
Thanks again, Jim, for another informative/ helpful tutorial. I am an avid watcher--have learned a lot from you!! Do have a question regarding today's subject of working in NEO Develop RAW. I am a Lightroom person, too. Is there a way to get a RAW image from Lightoom into NEO that is stlll a RAW image? I have tried a number of different ways and the image always gets to NEO as a JPEG. Thanks.
Hi Jim and thanks. In LR you can click File>Export with Preset and I believe there is an option there for "open source files". You can also try File>Plugin Extras and select "transfer to". Try both of those but pretty sure at least one of them will send a raw file. thanks
Thanks, Jim. I'll give them a try.
Great video. What version of Neo are you using Jim ? I don't have camera profiles in Develop menu, in the latest version. 1.04. Currently using it as a plugin for Affinity photo.
Hi Stu and I am on the same version. They only show up in raw files, so if you are using as a plugin from Affinity, make sure you are sending a raw file over and not a tiff, etc. thanks
@@JimNix Ah with it now.! Looks like Affinity cant send over a raw file through to the plugin..? Maybe someone will tell me different.. No problem with the full version..
@@stubrides8766 oh ok thanks, and sorry but I really don't know anything about Affinity
Nice tutorial Jim. But mastering is subjective is it not? 😎
thanks TC and yep for sure it's subjective
Excellent video as usual. I cannot get the histogram when using curves, is it available on macs only?
Hi Alan and yes I think that is only on a Mac right now.
Thank you for this informative video. I create images with software and wondered if .png or .tiff files are treated as raw files when using the develop tool in Luminar Neo.
Thanks Barrie but no, only the camera native raw file formats are treated as raw, or a DNG file. Otherwise it is not considered a raw file. Thanks.
@@JimNix Thank you for your speedy reply. After asking the question I used a tiff file (2500x3700) with Luminar Neo and all the develop tools appeared to work perfectly and almost instantaneously. Thanks for rousing my interest in Luminar.
@@barriejones1461 oh for sure, you can use any file type and still get to Develop. But if it's not a raw file yo won't get DCP profiles. That's the main difference. But yes any file type (jpp, tiff etc) will work with Develop. Sorry if I confused you. Thanks.
@@JimNix Ah-Haaa! I just looked up DCP profile. Now I understand that a digital photograph contains colour code derived from photons that hit the camera sensor and Luminar's develop tools use that data to modify the image. Whereas the colours of a tiff image are derived from pixels.
@@barriejones1461 yep and DCP are only for raw files hence they are better to have than any other format
I found that the only way for Luminar NEO to see my RAW images as RAW is to load them from the Luminar NEO catalog. Launching the Luminar NEO filter on my RAW images from either Lightroom or Photoshop doesn't seem to work.
Hi Michel and if you are using Neo as a plugin, you would have to send a raw file from your host. Most times with LR it will send over a tiff, so be sure and send a raw and it should work. Thanks.
@@JimNix all my files are raw format. I simply right-click and say edit in Neo or from Photoshop I launch the filter on the layer (raw). Checked preferences in Lightroom and there is no option for raw in “file handling”. Not sure what I should be looking for. Any guidance would be appreciated.
@@Mimiclobster You have to send it over the right way (LR's way that is) to ensure it is a raw file. In LR you can click File>Export with Preset and I believe there is an option there for "open source files". You can also try File>Plugin Extras and select "transfer to". Try both of those but pretty sure at least one of them will send a raw file. Thanks for watching!
@@JimNix thank you Jim! Will give that a try. Cheers and keep up the great channel.
@@Mimiclobster thanks so much 🙏🏻
Nice edit, Jim! For some reason, when I click on the Luminar Default drop down box in Camera Profiles, there are only two selections possible: "Load Custom DCP Profile," and "Load DCP Profile from DNG." I don't see all the options you show. I'm wondering if Neo can't read Fuji raw files completely, although I can do a complete edit on Fuji raw files. Also I noticed there is a histogram in the Curves panel, though not exactly what we had in Lightroom or other editors.
Same here. I don't see any of my camera profiles in Neo (but I see them in my main program). I concluded my camera system is not handled by Neo.
@@fjperras Which main program are you using that you can see the camera profiles?
@@hepgeoff I use ON1 Photo RAW 2022 as my main program. When opening a RAW file, I see all ON1 profiles AND all my camera profiles along with linear RAW if I truly want to start from scratch. I could load custom profiles but I haven't yet. So that gives me many options. And I find the ON1 RAW processor great enough for my needs.
yes I sometimes see different options if it's a different camera's raw file, so I agree it's likely it can't read them all perfectly - but I'm not techie enough to know a ton about this stuff
Thanks Jim, that was a great help, but on my computer, with the profiles, the only option that comes up is Luminar, I run Windows 11, could that be a reason? I only shoot in Raw, as it comes up a bit dull, I usually increase the exposure slider to bring back the colours, I noticed you didn't touch that slider. Am I wrong.
Hi Martin and I am not sure what other options exist in Win vs Mac, sorry. It could be that the raw file type doesn't have any suitable profiles in Luminar. Again, I am not sure, and am not an expert in these things. I sometimes use Exposure but only when it's really dark. Otherwise bringing up the shadows can help a lot. thanks
Hi Jim, Just wondering if you have the Neo plugin working with ON1 RAW (2022). I have Luminar AI working OK but the Neo plugin seems to just freeze (same with trying to use it with Affinity). I'm on a Mac (Big Sur 11.6.4).
Jim and I had an exchange on this topic. We discovered that Neo plugins from within ON1 Photo RAW 2022 works great on Windows but is broken on MacOSX. I suspect it is on the Skylum side so fingers crossed this gets addressed soon.
@@fjperras Thanks for this. Fingers crossed.
Thanks Bruce and yes as Frederic says, it isn't working on a Mac, at least for him and I. I will keep trying though each time there is an update on either end, in case that fixes it. Thanks.
Informative as usual! One question - How does one find a camera's DCP files for uploading?
Hi Kevin and thanks. You can do a Google Search and there are also some available on Tony Kuyper's site if you Google that. Pretty good selection actually.
@@JimNix Thanks! It sure would be swell if one could download that from Canon.
@@speecher1959 yep no worries and worth looking at the Canon site I guess. I never have since I shoot Sony. But surely there is a lot of Canon stuff available, either from Canon directly or elsewhere.
When I click on camera profiles I only get default no others? How do you get others? I use Panasonic G9 if this matters at all
Hi Chris and first you have to make sure you have a raw file, since that is the only file type that supports DCP. Otherwise, it could be that your camera doesn't have a profile in Neo or it doesn't recognize it. You could Google search for some profiles and add them manually (load custom DCP profile option) if you wanted to. Thanks.
Raw files are never sharp and in camera sharpening will be applied to these JPG. So will this picture be sharp enough when you only apply the other essential edits but omitting sharpening?
I think "sharp enough" is a relative description but if you are sending it to print for example you may want to apply some sharpening.
Would be great if all (or most of essential tools) would work on raw data.... may be a critic you can forward to our skylum friends. Till next.
thanks much Daniel!