I’ve worked on a FW190 D-9, nothing magic other than the fact that it was cobbled together using various materiel types due to material shortages in the latter stages of the war. The thing that impressed me the most about the FW-190 is the fact that it’s Jumo engine ran on fuel one octane higher than filtered horse shit. For them to get almost 2200 hp out of that engine fascinated me as I am an aircraft mechanic by trade. The Germans were VERY clever engineers. Don’t know if many of you know this or not, but the Germans used to harvest fuel out of crashed allied aircraft to perform engine testing with the allied 115-145 octane fuel. Due to constraints imposed on their aviation war machine because of the lower quality fuel, engines tested with the allied 115-145 octane fuels usually resulted in a 50% increase in horsepower. Detonation margins were drastically raised and the big fighter engines like the DB605, BMW 801, and the Jumo 213A produced amazing horsepower. Imagine the performance increases they would have realized if they’d had access to excellent fuel like we used.
Well designed engines for sure, designed to get more out of better fuel is good engineering, think about today performance cars, corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini require much higher octane fuel but run like horrible shit if they use even slightly lower octane (up to and including not running), but the engines in the FW 190 could run on no octane, yes they performed with 1/2 horsepower but they ran VERY WELL.
My Great Grandfather flew Spitfire Mk2 Mk5 Mk9 then Tempest, he was shot down in 1941 twice, once over the Chanel, again in 1944 by ground fire, he survived war and flew Jets until 1960. His favourite plane was the Mk9, he said his favourite moment was first flight in MK9 his flight was bounced, he had struggled terribly in MK5, but said after a few minutes he was out of ammunition, turning for home he saw a 190 slightly below and just behind..in Mk 5 he said he would have been in trouble, he opened throttle wide in a slight dive and just pulled away no drama, his airspeed indicator in slight dive was 500mph
Unfortunately no mention is made of the "Kommandogerät", a mechanical computer which combined throttle, propellor pitch, boost, manifold pressure, engine rpm, altitude, etc. all into one single power lever, making the FW 190 very easy to fly.
The Americans successfully reverse enginered the "commandogerate" late in the war, after when captured some 190A and F models, then implemented the improved version into the Bearcat navy fighter-bombers early in the fifties..
@@Jarlaxle72 they captured lots of German and Japanese tech/personal ..they would never made it to space without Von Braun & the biological germ warfare would have been behind without scientist from Unit 731
Of all the aircraft models I built and finished when I was growing up , a 1:32 scale model of the Fw-190 has still not made landed on my craft table yet. And with all the tech kids are taking up now,good quality plastic models are getting harder to find.
Sad but true. I built a lot of models all the way into my 20’s, and have a few kits now I need to build. But as you said, Walmart and many of the stores that used to have entire aisles of model kits on both sides, no longer sell them. Hobby Lobby is really the only place you can get them aside from a hobby shop, and they have gotten crazy expensive as a result. A 1/24-25 scale car kit is $30 now and many of the better aircraft kits are even higher.
@@sirdukemoose4448 and still need 4 powers to defeat germany? WHY?? because britain is so weak on land forces without thw english channel hitler would fuck britain in the butt.
Not really, the D9 variant was good but didn’t “outclass” the Mustang. Compared to the Mustang, the Dora had shitty aerodynamics when you realize the Mustang was doing everything the Dora did on 500 less horsepower. The Mustang had better firepower, a better gun site, better pilot protection, we won’t mention range as the ‘Stang set the mark on that. The Mustang had better visibility, better pilot comfort, and could do what it did all day long, every day!
"Butcher Bird" was not a name given to the plane by their opposition; it is a translation of the German "Würger" (shrike, butcher bird) the machine was given by the manufacturer. The guys being shot at may have been instrumental in choosing the less flattering translation, though.
At ~27.15 - The narrator uses the term "Mark". What he is referring to, is the term Maschinen Kanone - shortened to MK. This is used to designate German cannons.
Even the Japanese army was given a copy of a Fw190. When the plant for the Ki-61 "Tony" engines was bombed by the US, the Japanese turned to this copy of the 190 to study its engine mounting, and the Ki-100 "radial Tony" was the result.
And I quote: "The Yak-3 could reach 720 km/h" - In the jetstream, probably; "The Il-2 with the rear gunner undertook the fight on equal terms with the German fighters".. What a natural curiosity! It`s a Good... Strong!
Il2 was a ground attack bomber no way could it take on a fighter like the 109 or the 190. Whoever or wherever you got that info from was wrong. A fighter would get on its tail and take it down. The fighter would use its speed to chose where to attack from and would not take it on head on! One rear gunner against cannons? I visited Bletchley Park where they decoded the German Top Secret messages. The Russians knew the Germans where coming at Kursk due to info from Bletchley Park and had prepared in depth with the local population helping dig anti tank ditches etc, The Germans moved up to their forward positions ready to attack under the cover of night, just before they moved off the Russians opened up with a devastating artillery barrage and did a huge amount of damage. The Fighting was hard and at times it looked like the Germans may break through in some areas, almost fought to a standstill the Russians then brought in their huge reserves and forced a German retreat. Certainly a decisive battle. Huge German loss of equipment and skilled men.
... How do you know? "I visited..." doesn't mean as much as you think ..... Are you aware P51s successfully shot down ME-262s? ... An F4U Corsair shot down a MIG-15 during the Korean War ... Stranger things have happened.
The fact they were even able to perform an offensive at that point was remarkable. The Luftwaffe acquitted itself well during Kursk but in the end it wasn't enough against such numbers.
Funny that the thumbnail shows a Spitfire and not the Fw 190. You can see the roundel under the wing as well as its distinctive lines and cockpit and inline rather than the radial engine. ( edit: bloody spelling auto correct, roundel not rounded)
Besides Heinz Knockes "I flew for the Führer", do any of you know any books where we can learn more about the admission requirements for pilot training in the Luftwaffe during WW2? This is an interesting topic.
Indeed, but only at speeds below 250 mph (400 km/h). In real life that mattered more than high speed, which is why it was excellent. Both 109 and 190s bested the Spitfire in turning at low speeds according to Clostermann.
The Il-2 was mean, slow and heavy sure, but with its low speed came the ability to turn quickly and force a head on, which it would likely win. (A skilled pilot was necessary however)
@@spysareamyth In the Finnish continuation war against Russia the IL2 was observed to be inaccurate when bombing. It was good for strafing but in the Finnish forests thy could not find the targets. Because of it's armour it was almost impervious to email arms ground fire and was very effective in the open plains of Ukraine.
Im sorry, to me though, as I grew up, the absolute greatest, grandest WWII era fighter plane was the P-40. She had absolutely beautiful, lovely curves and when called upon to fight, it fought with unmatched distinction. Right, the American grand command didn't like it, it was built in the U.S.A. so American commanders had the right to like it or dislike it. Not the Brits. As soon as the British saw it, they saw competition to their Spitfire. Well, let me throw some real bright light on the subject: The American Volunteer Group in China, while helping China to survive the war against the Jappers, killed hundreds of their fighters included the zeroes. During the Lend-Lease Act, our country sent dozens of P-40 fighters to the Soviet Union. There were several aces with over a hundred kills against the ME-109. To me, the P-40 had such gorgeous, sexy lines that everyone should have fallen in love with that aircraft, sadly, no one did, and who can blam3 them, there was the P-51 mustang and the F-4U Corsair. But just imagine for a crazy second, what if they would have fitted the merlin engine on the P-40?.
Jesus Silva; they did! The P40F and L had the Merlin fitted. They can be distinguished by the lack of a carburetor intake on the top of the nose. I believe that something like 200 pilots became aces in the P40 and around 20 were double aces. The aces came from Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Russia, South Africa and the USA.
"More than a 100 allied aircraft were destroyed on the ground" It was more than 100 alright. The actual number was over 400. Rule of thumb, multiply their stated casualties by two and divide the enemy casualties by two.
@@startingbark0356 it didn’t have to, it would slash down on the Dora and cut its wings off in one pass .And if it didn’t get you on the first pass it roll down on you on the second pass and finish you off. Sorry Focke Wulf, game over !! And then the Jug would probably kill a ME262 or a Locomotive on the way home 🤩 ❤️🏁
21:10 British response to the butcherbird was extremely rapid because they captured a pristine FW190 when the German pilot got disoriented and accidentally landed on British soil thinking he was over France.
The british already had plans for the spitfire's engine to be upgraded and it alreadt was the Fw 190 they captured just helped the british to kink out any problems with their designs to best help in utilizing its new design to good use so technically the Mk 8/9 was just improved versions of the prototypes before them
There was a plan to land a commando raid on a German airfield and try to get Jeffrey Quill (Supermarine test pilot) into a 190 and attemot to steal it. Luckily the 190 landed at Pembrey in Wales putting an immediate halt to the operation. Much to the relief of Quill.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 Correct. Until the Merlin 61 was fitted. An incredible engine. A power graph shows compared with that of the 190 that with increasing altitude the 61 increases in power where the DB 601 is decreasing. Clever people on both sides back then!
"The resistance of the Luftwaffe had ended." Allied bomber pilot: "This is so much easier when they're not shooting back." Allied bombardier: "I still can't seem to hit anything."
I bet that photocell thing shot a ton of clouds. Imagine that damn thing, armed back there and your flying along...suddenly it spots a seagull and rips off a dozen shots. Scare the hell out of you.
I read somewhere, many years ago, that Tank liked to give his planes nicknamed that were bird related and that he gave the FW.190 the shrike nickname which was rarely used outside of FW.
It was a good plane using an air-cooled rotary engine traditionally which had a much larger drag over in line piston aircraft so the 190 was streamlined and although had some flaws as all planes have it was a cheaper easier plane to build
I dont think the British copied the BMW 801. I think the Bristol Centaurus was a totally different design philosophy with sleeve valves and produced more power. Stanley Hooker called the BMW 801 all brute force and ignorance with its huge 47 litre capacity. He designed the blower on the Merlin 61 which gave an engine with almost half the displacement very nearly the same power output.
The 109 has a better turn time so what are they talking about outturning? The 109 also looped faster and was a better vertical fighter but not as good at boom and zoom tactics, due to the typically lesser armament
The Bomber Hunter, such fond of it in WarThunder. Blitz in and run out. . . . If the german's did not commit such evil in this world I would had loved to see them continue the FW line with improvements and see how far they could have taken that plane!
And the Brits had 100 Octane Fuel supplied by the USA where as the Germans were having to make aviation gas out of Coal, Yes that black stuff that is like a rock out of the ground! Yes Texas Tea and the battle of the Atlantic made a huge impact on the air war in Europe in WW2
@@anthonyxuereb792 I'm a New Zealander and we had the greatest losses per capita in the British Empire out of active troops, pilots, sailors. We ddin't have any losses on our own territory because of where we live! We live in Paradise! We fought for the British Empire in 1939 not for democracy!
And of course, you do realise that South Africa has been producing fuel and oil from coal for donkey's years? Sasol is still operating to this day, producing products of the highest quality.
True FW 190D or also called the TA 152 could fly at 48,500 plus AGL at 473 mph!!,. There was no other aircraft other than the twin jet 263 that was close. But by the time of it’s introduction the war was really over. This FW was also called the long nose 190. The Brits with their “ the spitfire was the ultimate fighter” were so wrong. Overall as long as we could keep wing tanks on the P51 and P 47 those were the best day in and out plane. The long nose was too rare. And Germany had too little fuel, so for peak airplane it was the FW190D, for everyday thousand at a time it was close between the 47 then the 51.
The problem with Germany at the near end of war there were plenty of manufactured planes they just most of there top fighter pilots plus they were no experienced instructors. They were getting very short training time before they got put basically on the front line.
If the Fw 190 and Kurt Tank is of interest to you then also have a look at Greg's airplane ... Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Pt. 1, design philosophy and features ua-cam.com/video/9QycCd3U4Hg/v-deo.html
Kinda... the Il-2 was mean in a turn, and was well armed and armoured. With a skilled pilot it could easily force a head-on attack which it would usually win... with a skilled pilot...
Miss the days when ground crewmen were trusted with their own safety - running under the wing of a taxiing airplane. Miss the days before low-life lawyers and safety Karens took over the world…. Safety CULTure
@@chopchop7938 hardly overrated but like all planes had its flaws it was an expensive and harder plane to build esp its wings As an all rounder it was up with the best Plus what's not to like about the awesome engine sound of the merlin
The 190 butcher bird as it was known was a good use of old engine technology and better aerodynamics clever engineering plus despite its flaws it was much feared
What has love got to with it? The Fw 190 was a premier fighter in late 1941 through 1942 but by 1943 was evenly matched by the Spit IX by (late 1942) and was inferior to the P-47. The Fw 190 made a fight of it in 1943 due to pilot quality but that ended pretty quickly as the P-47 pilots became equally experienced. The Spit IX was OK and generally superior to the 109G's and equal to the Fw 190. Sptifires were not strategic fighters, neither were the 109 or 190. Strategic fighters have to have range. The Spit XIV was dominant over the Fw 190A which was obsolete in the West by 1944. The Spit V was markedly inferior to the Fw 190 but generally equal to the 109F in terms of combat effectiveness and the Brits made a whole lot more of them during the critical period of the war and had a whole lot more impact in the med than either the Fw 190 or Bf 109. The Germans failed to upgrade the Fw 190 until late 1944 with the D model which were built in small numbers and at their best were equal to the most common allied fighters but still inferior to later war allied fighters.
Jak-3 had top speed of 720 km/h? LOL It actually was only 645 Km/m. They have mistaken it for some experimental models that had their engines burn out after one flight. But what was important is Jak-3 being much faster at the ground level then any German fighter.
because of that advantage order were given to german pilots not to dogfight with Yaks without oilcooler (yak-3) under Nose under 4000-5000m, above that the german planes had the advantage
All allied fighters with Merlin 61s, and the P-47, and P-38 had the altitude advantage over both 190, and109. Especially when the German machines ran out of glycol/methanol, and/or nitrous. The Nazi planes had a short range and larger engines in later models used even more fuel. Ammo loads for the cannons were pathetic. The Mustangs and Thunderbolts in 44 were equipped with radar gun sights. Only about 200 190s had the equivalent too late to matter.
Then check some thunderbolt documentary shoot by the last 2 months of the war. US pilots lived 2 hours (1-2 sorties) in combat only and it was the end of the war! I am Hungarian and my granpa was a land crew for HUN airfoce that time. The allied simply had the quantity that is all. The axis pilots were fighting against 1:10, 1:15 ratio. Sometimes only 4 fighter planes attacked a fromation consists of 1000 allied planes. And yes, methanol injection helped to escape when 10 allied fighter was hanging behind. That is the courage to fly suicide missios over and over again, day by day. Majority of ariwar was between 1000-5000 m and the german planes had their supercharger set to that altitude range. Erich Harthmann pointed out that above 5000 m P51 was better under 5000 the BF109. German planes had also external tanks so their range was not bad and fit to purpose.
American radar could not fit in a plane and weighed 800 lbs and 6 ft diameter . But yes they did have new sight Gyro that helped new pilots. Germany had them also. That would calculate the lead on the target and size of target. Then after the war they were called radar sights after improvements.
The BF109 used only engines of the DB600 series which where all basically the same size and didnt really change in fuel consumption, FW 190 tho used either the BMW 801 or the junkers inverted V12
@@hakapeszimaki8369 During the Battle Of Normandy on June 4th all the Luftwaffe could field against the entire allied armada was 2x FW190's - people have little perception of just how badly outnumbered the Luftwaffe truly was especially in late war.
Hi! War 4 Jahre Luftwaffe Nike Herkules. Hobbyist Modellbau. Auf der rechten Suchleiste, sehe ich, yeehaa Fw 190... --- Aber -- erstaunt -- sehe das Bild einer Messerschmitt Me 109 E ohne Haube, erkennbar an der Radaufhängung... Sehr dummer Fehler...
Germany named their Units after animals Like Tiger and Wolfpack... Focke-Wulf meant "Fuckwolf" which is totally normal in German and Not offensive at all...
The hawker hurricane with Browning.303’s mounted in the wings saved the British in the Battle of Britain. Every plan on all sides was designed to fulfill a specific role. It’s hard to compare and designate who’s #1. P51#1.
The Spitfire had to be developed to counter the threat. The Spitfire was improved short term with an upowered version of the Merlin and permanently with a new engine the Griffin. Merlin 27 litre Griffin 37 Litre.
Now you ruined it for me, I have owned multiple BMW's overwhelming maintenance, parts failures, great to drive when they WORK CORRECTLY and beyond that pure hell to own. B ig M otoring W aste
Spitfire pilot ace and escapee Douglas Bader was not British he was an Australian, known as tin legs Bader as he lost his legs in the war but continued to fight as a pilot and one of his failed escapes when shot down over the occupied continent, was with his tin legs.
When the Luftwaffe turned their 109’s & 190’s into heavy fighters & heavy bomber destroyers (the Sturnbocke), those heavy planes ultimately had less maneuverable against the P51 Mustangs.
I always wondered how the Germans could be blamed for WWI. They were caught up in it like all the others. And if the WWI veterans had returned home and hung their leaders, like they should have, there wouldn't have been a WWII.
The 190 shot down 40 sword fish torpedo bombers well no shocks there 190 were fast highly manovable esp at lower altitudes the sword fish was a slow bi plane
1. Yes, but nothing really came of it as they weren't really in a position to introduce them during the war in large numbers, though machines like the Sea Fury and Tempest II used them. 2. Il-2 defensive formations caused big problems for German fighters, as attacking one Il-2 would have another shooting at you with its devastating guns, and the one you shot is probably fine thanks to their solid construction. 3. Yes. Just yes. German night fighters were the most capable by far of any nation up until the breakdown of the Luftwaffe in 44', and they were so effective British bomber crews weren't properly warned of them for fear of shattering morale as ones attack was almost guaranteed to kill you barring a massive mistake on the Germans' side.
Max Power - for high altitude work, the Fw-190D by 1936 the Fw-190 for ground attack, MP-44 by 1936, Panzerfaust by 1938, and a Germanized T-34 tank with the feared 88mm gun!
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I’ve worked on a FW190 D-9, nothing magic other than the fact that it was cobbled together using various materiel types due to material shortages in the latter stages of the war. The thing that impressed me the most about the FW-190 is the fact that it’s Jumo engine ran on fuel one octane higher than filtered horse shit. For them to get almost 2200 hp out of that engine fascinated me as I am an aircraft mechanic by trade. The Germans were VERY clever engineers. Don’t know if many of you know this or not, but the Germans used to harvest fuel out of crashed allied aircraft to perform engine testing with the allied 115-145 octane fuel. Due to constraints imposed on their aviation war machine because of the lower quality fuel, engines tested with the allied 115-145 octane fuels usually resulted in a 50% increase in horsepower. Detonation margins were drastically raised and the big fighter engines like the DB605, BMW 801, and the Jumo 213A produced amazing horsepower. Imagine the performance increases they would have realized if they’d had access to excellent fuel like we used.
Well designed engines for sure, designed to get more out of better fuel is good engineering, think about today performance cars, corvette, Ferrari, Lamborghini require much higher octane fuel but run like horrible shit if they use even slightly lower octane (up to and including not running), but the engines in the FW 190 could run on no octane, yes they performed with 1/2 horsepower but they ran VERY WELL.
Wow...
Lucky for the allies the Germans had poor quality fuel then?
@@davegeisler7802 Agreed!
@@davegeisler7802 You don't need to make a choice between the two, it's all history now.
My Great Grandfather flew Spitfire Mk2 Mk5 Mk9 then Tempest, he was shot down in 1941 twice, once over the Chanel, again in 1944 by ground fire, he survived war and flew Jets until 1960. His favourite plane was the Mk9, he said his favourite moment was first flight in MK9 his flight was bounced, he had struggled terribly in MK5, but said after a few minutes he was out of ammunition, turning for home he saw a 190 slightly below and just behind..in Mk 5 he said he would have been in trouble, he opened throttle wide in a slight dive and just pulled away no drama, his airspeed indicator in slight dive was 500mph
Unfortunately no mention is made of the "Kommandogerät", a mechanical computer which combined throttle, propellor pitch, boost, manifold pressure, engine rpm, altitude, etc. all into one single power lever, making the FW 190 very easy to fly.
Today's equivalent would be the ECU?
@@anthonyxuereb792 yes. analogue computer it was
The Americans successfully reverse enginered the "commandogerate" late in the war, after when captured some 190A and F models, then implemented the improved version into the Bearcat navy fighter-bombers early in the fifties..
@@Jarlaxle72 they captured lots of German and Japanese tech/personal ..they would never made it to space without Von Braun & the biological germ warfare would have been behind without scientist from Unit 731
thank you. when i saw pools cove i got a tear in my eye. take care. have fun.
Of all the aircraft models I built and finished when I was growing up , a 1:32 scale model of the Fw-190 has still not made landed on my craft table yet. And with all the tech kids are taking up now,good quality plastic models are getting harder to find.
Sad but true. I built a lot of models all the way into my 20’s, and have a few kits now I need to build. But as you said, Walmart and many of the stores that used to have entire aisles of model kits on both sides, no longer sell them. Hobby Lobby is really the only place you can get them aside from a hobby shop, and they have gotten crazy expensive as a result. A 1/24-25 scale car kit is $30 now and many of the better aircraft kits are even higher.
I just bought a 1:32 Fw-190 kit its my next project.
Is it just me, or does anyone notice a resemblance to the Grumman f8f bearcat, alongside the fw109?
fw109?
Uh, NO!
@@Wombat1916 sorry Terry wrong sequence of numbers.
No…
Just you.
The "Butcher Bird" surely lived upto its name. The FW-190 D-9 even outclassed P-51 D Mustang.
Kurt Tank was such a legendary man.
Yet he lost the war...
@@sirdukemoose4448 and still need 4 powers to defeat germany? WHY?? because britain is so weak on land forces without thw english channel hitler would fuck britain in the butt.
@@sirdukemoose4448 and that happend 2x!!
@@sirdukemoose4448 i want to see little britain fight germany without the english channel
Not really, the D9 variant was good but didn’t “outclass” the Mustang. Compared to the Mustang, the Dora had shitty aerodynamics when you realize the Mustang was doing everything the Dora did on 500 less horsepower. The Mustang had better firepower, a better gun site, better pilot protection, we won’t mention range as the ‘Stang set the mark on that. The Mustang had better visibility, better pilot comfort, and could do what it did all day long, every day!
I love this plane the versions top notch
"Butcher Bird" was not a name given to the plane by their opposition; it is a translation of the German "Würger" (shrike, butcher bird) the machine was given by the manufacturer. The guys being shot at may have been instrumental in choosing the less flattering translation, though.
At ~27.15 - The narrator uses the term "Mark". What he is referring to, is the term Maschinen Kanone - shortened to MK. This is used to designate German cannons.
Time 52:10 is the best, it shows the front fan rotating at twice the rate of the prop being pulled through.
Yes that was cool.
I love this plane!! Perfection in every way.
yes but in the wrong hands
this pic looks like the engine on this one is not a radial
You may want to look up the word "perfection".
@@rollingstopp Right hands ;)
Remember winners writte the history.
@@rollingstopp T. ,,,,,,L
Even the Japanese army was given a copy of a Fw190. When the plant for the Ki-61 "Tony" engines was bombed by the US, the Japanese turned to this copy of the 190 to study its engine mounting, and the Ki-100 "radial Tony" was the result.
Very good FW 190 doc!
Except for that when it starts off saying that it was a radial engine when I was air-cooled tell the D model
@@bobbailey2587 What is the problem? It had a radial, air-cooled engine until the D model with the L/C V-12. Simple.
I believe there was one instance where a 190...was downed by a steam engine's exploding boiler
And I quote: "The Yak-3 could reach 720 km/h" - In the jetstream, probably; "The Il-2 with the rear gunner undertook the fight on equal terms with the German fighters".. What a natural curiosity! It`s a Good... Strong!
Why are Germans so good at making beautiful machines?
Bf109 and the mp40 🔥
Il2 was a ground attack bomber no way could it take on a fighter like the 109 or the 190. Whoever or wherever you got that info from was wrong. A fighter would get on its tail and take it down. The fighter would use its speed to chose where to attack from and would not take it on head on! One rear gunner against cannons? I visited Bletchley Park where they decoded the German Top Secret messages. The Russians knew the Germans where coming at Kursk due to info from Bletchley Park and had prepared in depth with the local population helping dig anti tank ditches etc, The Germans moved up to their forward positions ready to attack under the cover of night, just before they moved off the Russians opened up with a devastating artillery barrage and did a huge amount of damage. The Fighting was hard and at times it looked like the Germans may break through in some areas, almost fought to a standstill the Russians then brought in their huge reserves and forced a German retreat. Certainly a decisive battle. Huge German loss of equipment and skilled men.
... How do you know? "I visited..." doesn't mean as much as you think ..... Are you aware P51s successfully shot down ME-262s? ... An F4U Corsair shot down a MIG-15 during the Korean War ... Stranger things have happened.
The fact they were even able to perform an offensive at that point was remarkable. The Luftwaffe acquitted itself well during Kursk but in the end it wasn't enough against such numbers.
Did he knew that mk and mg stands for maschinenkanone and maschinengewehr respectively. Not mark 108.
Funny that the thumbnail shows a Spitfire and not the Fw 190. You can see the roundel under the wing as well as its distinctive lines and cockpit and inline rather than the radial engine.
( edit: bloody spelling auto correct, roundel not rounded)
Its beauty and danger to allies makes it a legend.
Besides Heinz Knockes "I flew for the Führer", do any of you know any books where we can learn more about the admission requirements for pilot training in the Luftwaffe during WW2? This is an interesting topic.
I heard the pilot candidates had to be able hear thunder and see lightning. They needed anyone who could fly by the end of the war.
Erich Hartmann's "The Blond Knight of Germany" is a good one.
Fw 190 was also a very good turning fighter
Indeed, but only at speeds below 250 mph (400 km/h). In real life that mattered more than high speed, which is why it was excellent. Both 109 and 190s bested the Spitfire in turning at low speeds according to Clostermann.
34:00 EEEEH, an IL2 on equal terms with a FW 190?! Not even close, man.
The 20mm cannons were effective against the Il2, which was almost impervious to ground fire from small arms.
The Il-2 was mean, slow and heavy sure, but with its low speed came the ability to turn quickly and force a head on, which it would likely win. (A skilled pilot was necessary however)
@@spysareamyth In the Finnish continuation war against Russia the IL2 was observed to be inaccurate when bombing. It was good for strafing but in the Finnish forests thy could not find the targets. Because of it's armour it was almost impervious to email arms ground fire and was very effective in the open plains of Ukraine.
Im sorry, to me though, as I grew up, the absolute greatest, grandest WWII era fighter plane was the P-40.
She had absolutely beautiful, lovely curves and when called upon to fight, it fought with unmatched distinction.
Right, the American grand command didn't like it, it was built in the U.S.A. so American commanders had the right to like it or dislike it. Not the Brits. As soon as the British saw it, they saw competition to their Spitfire.
Well, let me throw some real bright light on the subject: The American Volunteer Group in China, while helping China to survive the war against the Jappers, killed hundreds of their fighters included the zeroes.
During the Lend-Lease Act, our country sent dozens of P-40 fighters to the Soviet Union. There were several aces with over a hundred kills against the ME-109.
To me, the P-40 had such gorgeous, sexy lines that everyone should have fallen in love with that aircraft, sadly, no one did, and who can blam3 them, there was the P-51 mustang and the F-4U Corsair. But just imagine for a crazy second, what if they would have fitted the merlin engine on the P-40?.
Jesus Silva; they did! The P40F and L had the Merlin fitted. They can be distinguished by the lack of a carburetor intake on the top of the nose. I believe that something like 200 pilots became aces in the P40 and around 20 were double aces. The aces came from Australia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Russia, South Africa and the USA.
I like the look of the P40 and my uncle flew them in the RNZAF during the war - but they had poor high altitude performance.
Over 100 kills in P40? I haven't heard of any Red Army pilot claiming that many Victories. I thought their top Aces were around the 60 kill mark.✌️🤔
"More than a 100 allied aircraft were destroyed on the ground" It was more than 100 alright. The actual number was over 400. Rule of thumb, multiply their stated casualties by two and divide the enemy casualties by two.
And they still lost the war.
@@sirdukemoose4448 yep. they lost against the whole capitalist and communist world. Funny how the "good guys" always win, huh?
Good video, but I don't quite understand why you would show a Spitfire instead of a FW190 in the thumbnail still pic...?!
The most obvious possible explanations are laziness or stupidity.
The Masterpiece of Kurt Tank.Masterpiece of German Engineering!!!
Fun fact, there was a proposal to make a jet engine version of this plane called FW190 TL
Bf-109 sexier
Until you met up with a P47M diving down on your Dora 🤩💪🏁
@@davegeisler7802 P47M cant even out turn a FW190 LMAO
@@startingbark0356 it didn’t have to, it would slash down on the Dora and cut its wings off in one pass .And if it didn’t get you on the first pass it roll down on you on the second pass and finish you off. Sorry Focke Wulf, game over !! And then the Jug would probably kill a ME262 or a Locomotive on the way home 🤩 ❤️🏁
21:10 British response to the butcherbird was extremely rapid because they captured a pristine FW190 when the German pilot got disoriented and accidentally landed on British soil thinking he was over France.
The british already had plans for the spitfire's engine to be upgraded and it alreadt was the Fw 190 they captured just helped the british to kink out any problems with their designs to best help in utilizing its new design to good use so technically the Mk 8/9 was just improved versions of the prototypes before them
There was a plan to land a commando raid on a German airfield and try to get Jeffrey Quill (Supermarine test pilot) into a 190 and attemot to steal it.
Luckily the 190 landed at Pembrey in Wales putting an immediate halt to the operation.
Much to the relief of Quill.
NO.
And when the British tested it they found it to be superior to the Spitfire Mk V at almost all altitudes.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 Correct. Until the Merlin 61 was fitted. An incredible engine. A power graph shows compared with that of the 190 that with increasing altitude the 61 increases in power where the DB 601 is decreasing.
Clever people on both sides back then!
Just another great Germans machine Kurt Tank did know exactly what he was doing Great video Thanks for posting Utube
Shows a Spitfire + Merlin in the thumbnail. Okay?
Please send the awesome footage to the guys with the AI that can colour in old video.
"The resistance of the Luftwaffe had ended."
Allied bomber pilot: "This is so much easier when they're not shooting back."
Allied bombardier: "I still can't seem to hit anything."
Other Allied Bombardier. "Hey Boss, I think that was my house."
@@silvirhunter3607 Navigator: "Why did we head west?! I said east! EAST!"
Yet the allies won.
Why does the thumbnail show an inline engine?
The fact that this was a very balanced narrative surprised me at first but then I realised it's not British but American.
The RAF wanted a better Spitfire. Once they got one, life was better.
I bet that photocell thing shot a ton of clouds. Imagine that damn thing, armed back there and your flying along...suddenly it spots a seagull and rips off a dozen shots. Scare the hell out of you.
I read somewhere, many years ago, that Tank liked to give his planes nicknamed that were bird related and that he gave the FW.190 the shrike nickname which was rarely used outside of FW.
I'm British and I approve 👍💓💓
It was a good plane using an air-cooled rotary engine traditionally which had a much larger drag over in line piston aircraft so the 190 was streamlined and although had some flaws as all planes have it was a cheaper easier plane to build
America's a British colony😂
@P. Tiesti Nobody cares whether 'muricans care.
I dont think the British copied the BMW 801. I think the Bristol Centaurus was a totally different design philosophy with sleeve valves and produced more power.
Stanley Hooker called the BMW 801 all brute force and ignorance with its huge 47 litre capacity. He designed the blower on the Merlin 61 which gave an engine with almost half the displacement very nearly the same power output.
because of the compression. if you have fuel that has so low octane, you simply need the displacement. simple as that. people cannot understand this
@@MrTiti Saved me from having to reply to this ignorance
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The 109 has a better turn time so what are they talking about outturning? The 109 also looped faster and was a better vertical fighter but not as good at boom and zoom tactics, due to the typically lesser armament
what song is it at 51 minutes
A lot of this program on the FW 190 is recycled from one on the Bf 109 by the same outfit !
A8 or D9?
Are the loss numbers quoted from the channel dash and dieppe actions based on luftwaffe claims or actual raf losses?
Very good dock
The Bomber Hunter, such fond of it in WarThunder. Blitz in and run out. . . . If the german's did not commit such evil in this world I would had loved to see them continue the FW line with improvements and see how far they could have taken that plane!
Yes, the Ta 152 would have been the last. The future already belonged to jet planes. Many projects were ready for production when the war ended.
Nazi's would probably have been a more accurate account
What a wonderful plane.
And the Brits had 100 Octane Fuel supplied by the USA where as the Germans were having to make aviation gas out of Coal, Yes that black stuff that is like a rock out of the ground! Yes Texas Tea and the battle of the Atlantic made a huge impact on the air war in Europe in WW2
The British owe a huge debt to the Americans that can never be repaid yet they behave as if victory was all their doing.
Actually, we routinely experimented with fuels up to 150 octane.
@@anthonyxuereb792 I'm a New Zealander and we had the greatest losses per capita in the British Empire out of active troops, pilots, sailors. We ddin't have any losses on our own territory because of where we live! We live in Paradise! We fought for the British Empire in 1939 not for democracy!
@@robmiller1964 yes you paid a heavy price
And of course, you do realise that South Africa has been producing fuel and oil from coal for donkey's years? Sasol is still operating to this day, producing products of the highest quality.
True FW 190D or also called the TA 152 could fly at 48,500 plus AGL at 473 mph!!,. There was no other aircraft other than the twin jet 263 that was close. But by the time of it’s introduction the war was really over. This FW was also called the long nose 190. The Brits with their “ the spitfire was the ultimate fighter” were so wrong. Overall as long as we could keep wing tanks on the P51 and P 47 those were the best day in and out plane. The long nose was too rare. And Germany had too little fuel, so for peak airplane it was the FW190D, for everyday thousand at a time it was close between the 47 then the 51.
The Arado Pfeil held the speed record for piston engine aircraft for many years.
Ta 152 is developed from FW 190 D
I’m seeing different figures:fw 190d
Service Ceiling:39,000’
Max Speed: 426mph
HP:1750
Max Rate of Climb: 3,3000’/min
Range:520miles
The P47 kill ratio far outstripped the P51. The P47 by far is the most successful fighter during the war for the USAAF by the numbers.
The problem with Germany at the near end of war there were plenty of manufactured planes they just most of there top fighter pilots plus they were no experienced instructors. They were getting very short training time before they got put basically on the front line.
Funny,I kept staring at the picture of spitfire mod L(clip wing) reading the title of the plane it was to kill.
That's because the maker of the video is an idiot, or thinks the potential viewers are idiots.
Over states it's abilities Still a very good airplane and one of best WW2 fighters.
Only in 1942.
Again the quantity triumphed against the quality...
The BMW motor overheated lol their car motors are still doing that to this day
Never knew how destructive these planes were until 36:28. May something like this never happen again
If the Fw 190 and Kurt Tank is of interest to you then also have a look at Greg's airplane ...
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Pt. 1, design philosophy and features
ua-cam.com/video/9QycCd3U4Hg/v-deo.html
17:38 what a dramatic moment! spitfire tried to get that ju-88(or me-210?) but got shot instead ;(
BMW was licensed to build the Pratt and Whitney Hornet engine.
Yrs, that's true but I'm not sure that the BMW and the Prat & Whitney were identical.
Its not a copy
¡Troy Tempest!...The skipper of the SUPERCAR...¡Haven´t heard about him at least 40 or 50 years!...¡groovy!
Stingray
Mike Mercury was pilot of the Supercar
DAS BUCH: holt Hartmann runter. Der, mit den meisten Abschüßen, ist
phänominal...
The Il-2 Stormovik capable of taking on the Fw-190 on equal terms?????
Kinda... the Il-2 was mean in a turn, and was well armed and armoured. With a skilled pilot it could easily force a head-on attack which it would usually win... with a skilled pilot...
Great video!!!
Great video.
André Focke a
Best Bird in the World!
Miss the days when ground crewmen were trusted with their own safety - running under the wing of a taxiing airplane. Miss the days before low-life lawyers and safety Karens took over the world…. Safety CULTure
The Focke wulf 190 was the better than the Messcherschidt 109 but im a Brit so I love the Spitfire and Hurricane more.
oscar Blaketon yes my friend!!
The spits the most overrated plane ever. But that's by the British and nobody outside of Britain cares about the British.
@@chopchop7938 hardly overrated but like all planes had its flaws it was an expensive and harder plane to build esp its wings
As an all rounder it was up with the best
Plus what's not to like about the awesome engine sound of the merlin
The 190 butcher bird as it was known was a good use of old engine technology and better aerodynamics clever engineering plus despite its flaws it was much feared
What has love got to with it? The Fw 190 was a premier fighter in late 1941 through 1942 but by 1943 was evenly matched by the Spit IX by (late 1942) and was inferior to the P-47. The Fw 190 made a fight of it in 1943 due to pilot quality but that ended pretty quickly as the P-47 pilots became equally experienced. The Spit IX was OK and generally superior to the 109G's and equal to the Fw 190. Sptifires were not strategic fighters, neither were the 109 or 190. Strategic fighters have to have range. The Spit XIV was dominant over the Fw 190A which was obsolete in the West by 1944. The Spit V was markedly inferior to the Fw 190 but generally equal to the 109F in terms of combat effectiveness and the Brits made a whole lot more of them during the critical period of the war and had a whole lot more impact in the med than either the Fw 190 or Bf 109. The Germans failed to upgrade the Fw 190 until late 1944 with the D model which were built in small numbers and at their best were equal to the most common allied fighters but still inferior to later war allied fighters.
Jak-3 had top speed of 720 km/h? LOL It actually was only 645 Km/m. They have mistaken it for some experimental models that had their engines burn out after one flight. But what was important is Jak-3 being much faster at the ground level then any German fighter.
because of that advantage order were given to german pilots not to dogfight with Yaks without oilcooler (yak-3) under Nose under 4000-5000m, above that the german planes had the advantage
Not then then BF109 K model which could go 710km/h
Alot of Mustang gun camera footage in this video
All allied fighters with Merlin 61s, and the P-47, and P-38 had the altitude advantage over both 190, and109. Especially when the German machines ran out of glycol/methanol, and/or nitrous. The Nazi planes had a short range
and larger engines in later models used even more fuel. Ammo loads for the cannons were pathetic. The Mustangs
and Thunderbolts in 44 were equipped with radar gun sights. Only about 200 190s had the equivalent too late to matter.
Then check some thunderbolt documentary shoot by the last 2 months of the war. US pilots lived 2 hours (1-2 sorties) in combat only and it was the end of the war! I am Hungarian and my granpa was a land crew for HUN airfoce that time. The allied simply had the quantity that is all. The axis pilots were fighting against 1:10, 1:15 ratio. Sometimes only 4 fighter planes attacked a fromation consists of 1000 allied planes. And yes, methanol injection helped to escape when 10 allied fighter was hanging behind. That is the courage to fly suicide missios over and over again, day by day. Majority of ariwar was between 1000-5000 m and the german planes had their supercharger set to that altitude range. Erich Harthmann pointed out that above 5000 m P51 was better under 5000 the BF109. German planes had also external tanks so their range was not bad and fit to purpose.
Germans averaged 3 rounds per kill and the 30 mm was one round one plane.
Where as allieds needed thousand plus rounds per kill.
American radar could not fit in a plane and weighed 800 lbs and 6 ft diameter . But yes they did have new sight Gyro that helped new pilots. Germany had them also. That would calculate the lead on the target and size of target.
Then after the war they were called radar sights after improvements.
The BF109 used only engines of the DB600 series which where all basically the same size and didnt really change in fuel consumption, FW 190 tho used either the BMW 801 or the junkers inverted V12
@@hakapeszimaki8369 During the Battle Of Normandy on June 4th all the Luftwaffe could field against the entire allied armada was 2x FW190's - people have little perception of just how badly outnumbered the Luftwaffe truly was especially in late war.
Is it just me, or does a yone see a resemblance
Title:focke wulf 290
Pic:spitfire
NICE
“Hidden and Dangerous” narrator.
Hi! War 4 Jahre Luftwaffe Nike Herkules. Hobbyist Modellbau. Auf der rechten Suchleiste, sehe ich, yeehaa
Fw 190... --- Aber -- erstaunt -- sehe das Bild einer Messerschmitt Me 109 E ohne Haube, erkennbar
an der Radaufhängung...
Sehr dummer Fehler...
The war is ugly... but the fw190's designs were beautiful... what an irony...
Germany named their Units after animals Like Tiger and Wolfpack...
Focke-Wulf meant "Fuckwolf" which is totally normal in German and Not offensive at all...
What a piece of Junk! It was no match for the Typhoons and Tempests which is was based on.
The Narrator mispronounces PLOESTI ( Oil field and Refinery in Rumania, Hitler’s main source of Fuel ) as PLOETSI !
The hawker hurricane with Browning.303’s mounted in the wings saved the British in the Battle of Britain. Every plan on all sides was designed to fulfill a specific role. It’s hard to compare and designate who’s #1. P51#1.
the BEST f... the rest.greetings from a GERMAN
People don't know that almost all the military equipment that the germans had were built by force labor of holocaust victims.
The best engine piston fighter of ww2.
Best German one, sure. Not sure about overall though.
@@RENEGADEJon19 Vought F4U Corsair. It`s a very simple answer...
P-47...Hold my beer!
@@UkrainianPaulie the jokes channel is the other one,ok pal.
The Spitfire had to be developed to counter the threat. The Spitfire was improved short term with an upowered version of the Merlin and permanently with a new engine the Griffin. Merlin 27 litre Griffin 37 Litre.
Nice documentary movie
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51.13….see the little BMW badge on the front. Just like my cars. 🤣
Now you ruined it for me, I have owned multiple BMW's overwhelming maintenance, parts failures, great to drive when they WORK CORRECTLY and beyond that pure hell to own.
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Spitfire pilot ace and escapee Douglas Bader was not British he was an Australian, known as tin legs Bader as he lost his legs in the war but continued to fight as a pilot and one of his failed escapes when shot down over the occupied continent, was with his tin legs.
Douglas Bader was born in St John's Wood, London, ENGLAND.
Half about the plane, half a bunch of stolen general footage.
lol spitfire in tn
one of the best planes around, but sad it was owned by a lot of nutters there boss was a know all who at the end chicken out by shooting himself
The picture on the thumbnail was a Mustang, not a Focke Wulf.
No thats a spitfire
@@startingbark0356 yes, it's a Spit, but I clicked a thumbnail with a Mustang.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 no i clicked a thumbnail with a spit
@@startingbark0356 I tried to watch Mustang vs 190 but got the wrong tape.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 oh
fw 190 can' t out turn the bf 109 but can sertainly out roll it
Which is saying nothing. Both the 109 and 190 were "through" by the end of 1943.
When the Luftwaffe turned their 109’s & 190’s into heavy fighters & heavy bomber destroyers (the Sturnbocke), those heavy planes ultimately had less maneuverable against the P51 Mustangs.
I dont know how you could turn a single engine fighter into a heavy fighter
Add more cannons & machine guns to a single engine fighter to make that fighter a heavy fighter or heavy bomber destroyer.
The BEST airplane in.....and then the DORNIERS came and smiled ^^
I always wondered how the Germans could be blamed for WWI. They were caught up in it like all the others. And if the WWI veterans had returned home and hung their leaders, like they should have, there wouldn't have been a WWII.
Focke Wolf 190 but show a Hawker Hurricane.
D version was the best
The 190 shot down 40 sword fish torpedo bombers well no shocks there 190 were fast highly manovable esp at lower altitudes the sword fish was a slow bi plane
Thank fuck we had the spitfire and mosquito or it would have absl dominated
What if the Luftwaffe started more ramming missions earlier with more lightly armed fighters just like Sonderkommando Elbe did in April 1945?
British ‘copied’ german engines?
Il-2 equal to Fw190?
Luftwaffe gained control of night skies?
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1. Yes, but nothing really came of it as they weren't really in a position to introduce them during the war in large numbers, though machines like the Sea Fury and Tempest II used them.
2. Il-2 defensive formations caused big problems for German fighters, as attacking one Il-2 would have another shooting at you with its devastating guns, and the one you shot is probably fine thanks to their solid construction.
3. Yes. Just yes. German night fighters were the most capable by far of any nation up until the breakdown of the Luftwaffe in 44', and they were so effective British bomber crews weren't properly warned of them for fear of shattering morale as ones attack was almost guaranteed to kill you barring a massive mistake on the Germans' side.
If only the D-9 model would have been available in 1941👍
Max Power - for high altitude work, the Fw-190D by 1936 the Fw-190 for ground attack, MP-44 by 1936, Panzerfaust by 1938, and a Germanized T-34 tank with the feared 88mm gun!
+Richard McGuire To what end, though?
Victory!
***** Yeah the Focke Wulf was a cool airplane and everything but.....
+Richard McGuire You know what that implies, right?