I just got an Alpine A110S myself, with tune, 330BHP, the thing is insane. I live in Switzerland, as such taking it through the mountains is just Devine.
@@calden74 Hi Charles, Thanx a lot! The combination of two tuning manufacturers sounds interesting. I live in Germany... Did you change even hardware? And did you have to drive to England? Questions over questions.. SRY.. 🙄
BeyerT1 Well, it has a flat floor and diffuser, which combined produce enough downforce to keep the rear in check- most of the time! But remember it's very light, and so very agile!
I really wish the sales of this great car would do it justice, the market just doesn't understand it, they want hp numbers, they don't care about weight or chassis work it seems..
@@noam6324 lol joke, first, alpine didnt sell more a110 than porsche did with the 718, maybe in France but not in Europe. carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/porsche/porsche-718/ carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/alpine/alpine-a110/ secondo, the porsche has a manual stick.. vs auto gearbox for the alpine... not the best to compare. third ... the alpine is f**** too expensive for what is it ! Come on !! For 40k ok.. not 60/70k ps : i m french ;)
No grinding of teeth trust me … I was driving the Porsche and Lucas the Alpine driver is a good friend. The Alpine is astonishing, I have driven it myself and was really amazed. Super agile and tons of grip with KW suspension and Direzza rubber. Alpine may be the better Lotus haha :-)
Thomas Ferraro Jr. correct... you can tell from the interior as well.. the new 718 has a different ac vent and the clock is placed further forward of the dash.
Really surprised by Alpines pull out of the corners. I guess that's the early torque delivery of a turbo vs the NA of the GT4. Considering all the hype the GT4 gets (and it is a lovely package) I'm shocked how it compared to the Alpine. Put a Stage 1 tune on the Alpine and the porsche wont see it for dust. Thanks for sharing.
I test drove one in London, rush hour, I know. I turned the car at around 5 mph, I felt that the car was spinning at my seat, like the axis was the point of seat... Weighs the same as my MX5.... Stunner and surprisingly comfy!
Voici la preuve de la supériorité de l'Alpine non seulement dans la conception (excellent rapport poids/puissance/ motricité/couple) mais aussi le design (aérodynamisme/intérieur confortable/instrumentation complète/ergonomie) ainsi que le comportement routier extraordinaire font de ce véhicule la meilleure voiture de ce segment. Elle est construite comme un avion de chasse, elle permet aux futurs pilotes à acquérir le talent nécessaire et au conducteur normal de redécouvrir le plaisir d'une conduite active en toute sérénité.
It's not a stock A110. It has race suspension and semi-slick tyres. So a stock version won't be close to what the car in the video is doing around corners.
Nice video. The advantage the alpine A110 is its featherweight. As a result, 250 hp is enough for him to compete easily with a 385 hp Cayman Porsche. Light is right. I have one and on winding mountain roads, the Cayman is dropped.
It looks to me that it is made to look insane because the Cayman driver is hitting the apex early and has to wait to get the power down, so the Alpine is carrying more speed onto the straights
Schwacher "Hausfrauerporsche" Fahrer selbst bei materialschonender Fahrweise ist da locker mehr drin, immer zu frueh vom Gas, Runterschalten und Hochschalten - mehr Uebung auch mit Leasingvertrag 🤣
Great lap - excellent battle by both drivers! Not a car vs. car comparison to the degree it is a driver vs. driver. Both play a part. Both amazing cars. The GT4 definitely left some time on the table, with some VERY sensible short shifting at moments (gotta bring it home), and the Alpine driver doesn't have to deal with a third pedal. Overall, seemed like a great day out for both :-)
Correction: the 4-cyl Race prepped Alpine with race suspension and semi-slicks. Set up by none other than probably the most famous ring handling company Manthey.
surprising how hard the Cayman driver had to work, as well as cut curves and run on curbs. Whereas the Alpine appeared to be driven by somebody taking his 5 o'clock tea on the Nordschleife. And the Cayman had just a chance when the Alpine was slowed down due to some Porsches blocking the road. Am really surprised
Alpine was running semi slicks: Dunlop Direzza go look them up. That's why it's so comfortable in the corners when the GT4 is struggling for grip on it's road tyres (yes Cup 2's are road tyres). The Alpine also has race suspension set up by one of the best ring specialists, so no surprise at all it held it's own against what is ultimately still a road car with road suspension alignment.
@maxence : l'A110 de cette vidéo a des suspensions KW réglées par MANTHEY Racing (vainqueurs des 24h du nurburgring....!!) et des pneus semi slicks !!! donc tu t'es fait rouler dans ton ressenti.
Raphaël Lecerf je me pose la même question! En tout cas j’ai été surpris car à chaque reprise en ligne droite la bleue monte plus vite en vitesse que P ! C’est étonnant. Et je la connais bien j’en ai une depuis 360 jours.
@@jamesmay1322 Nice, thanks for the infos! This wasn't mentioned in the video description. So, this means to me that the Alpine has a nice chassis, if it can handle the track with just these improvements. By the ways, It Would be nice to see both cars with the same setup, cause I think the stock tires on the Porsche make it loose a good amount of grip 👀👀cheers!
What a great car the Alpine is. Was that Renault a regular Alpine or an Alpine S? I wish we could buy it in the United States. I think the Alpine is also the most beautiful car available today. I can only speak of what you show in your video and it seems you guys were having a lot of fun for sure. Said that, Caymans have been my tool of choice for track time for a long time due to the purity of them and I think I know them very well and I do make them justice going around any track in the USA. Of course the GT4 is the holy grail of Caymans and the only faster Caymans are properly race prepped ones which are lighter and faster. I also instruct in high performance driving education for 15 years which is something I really love doing. The facts from your video are that you were short shifting the GT4 in a lot of places and you were giving space to the Alpine voluntarily or involuntarily. You were not carrying enough speed through some turns and you were over braking a bit. Your turn-in was a bit impatient and early in a lot of turns which slows you down everywhere. You could also be more precise and smooth with your steering, brake and gas inputs which would yield for you much faster lap times because you do not have to waste lap time catching the car. I mean all of that with the utmost respect. There is no way a car with the power of the GT4 and with wider and bigger front tires than the rears on the Alpine would be slower around a track like your video depicts. I assume you are in the GT4 factory rubber Cup 2 Michelin but even if you were in street rubber with say A300 + wear rate and the Alpine was in R compounds say A200 - , I may buy that you could not reel him if the tires were that different. At the end of the day, I still feel that the GT4 would have the edge around a track with such terminal speeds compared to this Renault Alpine. The same driver should drive both cars and then it would be a lot more objective. Keep having fun!
Normal Alpine with stock power....only suspension and tyres... And it's true the real test is with the same driver...because skills and knowledge can make a big difference on Nurburgring.
Can we take a minute to appreciate that this little car exist ? It's plenty fast , with the a110s better still , looks good in my opinion , and you can get 39 US mpg / 44 UK mpg / 6.1 L/100km , and because it's an 1.8 l engine from the Megane , i bet the maintenance costs are lower as well .
So much "wrong" in this video and i love it. Alpine A110 just disappearing in the straight at the face of Cayman GT4 (that has like 100+ hp more?), how they both *casually* passes 911 GT3? Awesome stuff
More than just aftermarket tyres: Semi slicks, and not just a lowered suspension: a race suspension set up by one of the most famous ring specialist companies. Put that up against a car (even a more powerful one) with road tyres (Cup 2's are road tyres) with a stock road suspension alignment and what you get is the video above. No surprise at all.
Matthias Schneider possessor of a110 for 9 months and user of circuits I already met 4 porschists - which one of GT3- who no longer use their Porsches since they acquired their A110 !!!
possessor of a110 for 9 months and user of circuits I already met 4 porschists - which one of GT3- who no longer use their Porsches since they acquired their A110 !!!
Thomas B.0512 en toute honnêteté, sur les 3 circuits que j’ai faits, jamais je n’ai vu une A110 en surchauffe; cela dit on ne fait jamais plus de 10 tours d’affilée! Faudrai voir en rallye. En GT4, à Pâques 2019 à Nogaro, elles ont terminé à trois dans les cinq premières places face aux R8, AMG GT4, BM...J’ai vu une seule A110 avoir des pb dès le premier tour à Alès pour cause de carte-mère déréglée et que les mécaniciens ont réparé en 20 mn. Renseignements pris le proprio était arrivé avec ce pb et en avait parlé avant de prendre la piste
FUCK SHIT oui je sais... par contre je ne sais pas ce qu’ils ont mis sur l’A110S... les pneus sont plus larges mais je ne sais pas s’ils sont « downgradé »
@FUCK SHIT En effet l'A110 est équipée a la base de Michelin PS4 dégradée pour faire des glissades, mais à mon avis ce ne sont pas les PS4 d'origines qui équipent cette A110... Elle accroche trop bien et les changements d'appuis sont juste ouf ! En tout cas, le conducteur de l'A110 maîtrise super bien. 🤗
@@pistoniverse Il paraît que ce sont égalements des PS4 sur la future A110 S... Pour faire du circuit, il vaut mieux des SS ou PSC2 voir equivalent chez d'autres manufacturiers...Je ne sais pas ce qu'il y a de disponibles dans cette taille.. Mais vu le niveau de l'A110 "standard", l'A110 S équipée de pneus accès pistes, devrait laisser plus d'une sportive sur le carreau. 😎😎 Une superbe auto a la conception topissime !!! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
It's really weird that I saw that Alpine and got really excited that it's the new one, and then at the top right the suggested video is the new Alpine in the same blue from carfection. UA-cam algorithm is my homie!
If the Alpine was manual, I'd buy one, end of story. But they're not, so I'm getting a GT4. Don't care if the Alpine is faster, the sound of the GT4 will become a rare commodity in years to come, and it's manual only. Brilliant package.
Alpine has double wishbones front and rear plus it only weighs 1250 kg with driver and fuel, it's indeed a very fast track car with excellent handling.
That A110 goes out of the bends like a cannonball, are you sure is stock? I mean that Porsche its supossed to have 400 hp and it gets smoked every time...
Alpine late braking was aggressively great. Haha.. it seem alpine driver is a professional.. can you see the way he/she control the car in good racing line. The entry and exits are perfect for me.
Phil Le French : not as yet. Maybe later ? It could also depend on the cost of upgrades requested to make this car fit with the canadian laws and the hard climate 🤔
Finally somebody who gets the significance of fitting semi slick tyres and a full race set up suspension (set up by one of the most famous ring specialist companies no less).
What were the mods on that Alpine!? I hope you sold the Cayman GT4, made some profit from a speculator or Porsche brand snob, and bought an Alpine after this experience! And that's not even the A110S which is better suited to a track! Time to order an Alpine A110 for myself. Damn!
Apparently the engine has been left untouched, so 252 hp for 1100 kg... I believe the Cayman is at 385hp for 1450 kg, the latter has the better power/weight so it should be quicker and faster.
The Alpine is faster in a straight line up to ≈ 180 km/h. When I was driving the same Alpine (my very first lap), I pushed a 996.2 GT3 with experienced driver out of the way … ua-cam.com/video/7F3GPmif_Iw/v-deo.html
Did nobody here catch the fact the Alpine is on semi-slick tyres? That'll make all the difference, easily worth a few seconds around a 1.5 mile track let alone the length of the ring. Plus it's on aftermarket KW suspension. So what a surprise it's better around a track than something with road car tyres, (cup 2's are still firmly road tyres, not even close to semi-slicks).
Florian fixman pas d’accord regarde bien la vidéo de plus près l’alpine a des trajectoires plus précises et du coup elle a des reprises de vitesse plus rapide que la Porsche !!
Cool! Both are fine, but with my A110S can't wait to visit the Nürburgring! ... I think it would show up with similar performance but better handling inside of turns ...
When you say the A110 is pimped by Manthey, does this include and power or chassis upgrades? The A110 is a fantastic car but I am surprised the GT4 couldn't get closer
ECU I suppose, so there you have a solid 300hp in a very light car, and with arguably better line over the track that's why the GT4 can't catch up especially in tight sections. Impressive from both drivers.
Out of breath just watching it. Lovely work rate. Whatever has been said about the lines from the onboard or short shifting and such, that Alpine looks an eminently easier machine to throw about and pick and adjust your line. The onboard on that might show it being more hectic. I still think I'd rather own one of Stuttgart's finest, but when the relaunched Alpine first came about pitted against Porsche everyone was laughing. At least now it's a genuine dilemma for the serious enthusiast. I think I'd prefer the Alpine, but I don't like the steering wheel and the infotainment stinks - I find the rest of the build inoffensive of you take into account the weight saving principle. But the biggest issue... Constantly explaining your choice to people who would never understand...!
Great driving but check how the Alpine engages the turns and check how the driver of the video does... He's attacking those turns way too early losing some speed on the way. There's even a moment, almost at the end of the race where the vibrator pushes him away from the turn at 6:05. You have to hit the apex in order to reduce the steering lock but yeah easier to say than doing. Respect anyway to both drivers and cool video.
It would be interesting to see an RS version of the Alpine...something with the fancy suspension like the one of the Megane RS Throphy, carbon treatment, about 350hp, etc.
There is a new Alpine A110s wit almost 300hp. No need to add a crazy amount of power and make the same mistake than the competition, this car is all about the perfect balance between weight, chassis, suspension and engine power. It's a full sport car package too much power added would kill this perfect balance.
The Alpine A110 S coming soon. Alpine said it's will be not the radical Alpine A110, just a sporty style of the regular A110. I guess we must wait maybe one more year for see the first new of true A110 hardcore version.
Make no mistake, the Alpine 110 was very much developed by Renaultsport. Rumours are that the latest Megane RS will be the last and focus will switch more to Alpine and I suspect that will mean more powerful variants like the 110s and other models yet to come
mikes1471 Issue with more power is that the A110 gearbox isn't particularly strong. So I suppose the folks at Dieppe would have to either redesign the gearbox, or strengthen it!
Great vid, good camera positioning, good sound, nice driving from your side! A pleasure to watch. A110 looks surprisingly strong here despite taking awkward lines, how much modifications did it have? A110S should be hard to follow here, looking forward to more Cayman vs A110 confrontations.
I just got an Alpine A110S myself, with tune, 330BHP, the thing is insane. I live in Switzerland, as such taking it through the mountains is just Devine.
Hi Charles,
my A110 S will arrive in April. What kind of tuning do you have?
@@rieliman7025 Litchfield and DTE, though it really depends on where you live.
@@calden74 Hi Charles, Thanx a lot! The combination of two tuning manufacturers sounds interesting. I live in Germany... Did you change even hardware? And did you have to drive to England? Questions over questions.. SRY.. 🙄
Beschte!
Alpine is LITERALLY made for the Alps! You got yourself the perfect car for mountainous fun :)
Sacre Bleu, that Alpine is quick!
Also amazing how it has no special aero bits on it, not even a rear wing.
BeyerT1 Well, it has a flat floor and diffuser, which combined produce enough downforce to keep the rear in check- most of the time! But remember it's very light, and so very agile!
or cayman slow :(
@@lucianwisniewski8693 C'est la technique Alpine : la légèreté et l'agilité .
@@sergerostucher6165 Exactement, c'est rafraîchissant de voir une voiture aussi légère sans trop de puissance!
I really wish the sales of this great car would do it justice, the market just doesn't understand it, they want hp numbers, they don't care about weight or chassis work it seems..
Dédé LABINOUZE ? there is a 1 year waiting list ...
It lacks a proper manual gearbox. Missing also a naturally aspirated engine..GT4 seems a better proposal as a driver's car
@@noam6324 lol joke, first, alpine didnt sell more a110 than porsche did with the 718, maybe in France but not in Europe.
carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/porsche/porsche-718/
carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/alpine/alpine-a110/
secondo, the porsche has a manual stick.. vs auto gearbox for the alpine... not the best to compare.
third ... the alpine is f**** too expensive for what is it ! Come on !! For 40k ok.. not 60/70k
ps : i m french ;)
@@mickael785001 Cayman GT4 is sold 90k and can't overtake a 60k Alpine... so if the Alpine is too expansive the Porsche is just robbery.
@@sankaman71 The Alpine in the video is not factory status, but instead received tuning by Manthey Racing - stated in the description.
No grinding of teeth trust me … I was driving the Porsche and Lucas the Alpine driver is a good friend. The Alpine is astonishing, I have driven it myself and was really amazed. Super agile and tons of grip with KW suspension and Direzza rubber. Alpine may be the better Lotus haha :-)
Do you know the brake(pads) set up and if the tyres are standard Alpine sizes?
This is obviously the older GT4, correct? Not the new, 718. I wasn't sure if it was released earlier over in Europe. Thanks and great driving!
That was a nice lap, which really hits home how good the Alpine is.
Thomas Ferraro Jr. correct... you can tell from the interior as well.. the new 718 has a different ac vent and the clock is placed further forward of the dash.
@@martsmarts Thanks! I think a 718 with PDK will beat the Alpine no problem. Non GT4, I mean. Like GTS.
I love Alpine 😎😄💪🇫🇷
Une légende 😍
Really surprised by Alpines pull out of the corners. I guess that's the early torque delivery of a turbo vs the NA of the GT4. Considering all the hype the GT4 gets (and it is a lovely package) I'm shocked how it compared to the Alpine. Put a Stage 1 tune on the Alpine and the porsche wont see it for dust. Thanks for sharing.
@Robert de Haas the cayman has more power tho
I test drove one in London, rush hour, I know. I turned the car at around 5 mph, I felt that the car was spinning at my seat, like the axis was the point of seat... Weighs the same as my MX5.... Stunner and surprisingly comfy!
I worry about the longevity of something built by Renault though
Voici la preuve de la supériorité de l'Alpine non seulement dans la conception (excellent rapport poids/puissance/ motricité/couple) mais aussi le design (aérodynamisme/intérieur confortable/instrumentation complète/ergonomie) ainsi que le comportement routier extraordinaire font de ce véhicule la meilleure voiture de ce segment. Elle est construite comme un avion de chasse, elle permet aux futurs pilotes à acquérir le talent nécessaire et au conducteur normal de redécouvrir le plaisir d'une conduite active en toute sérénité.
I wanted the Alpine to be as good as it looks, and judging by this, it really is. This video surprised me. Thanks for sharing :)
Must be on high boost.
It's not a stock A110. It has race suspension and semi-slick tyres. So a stock version won't be close to what the car in the video is doing around corners.
@@jamesmay1322 A110S
Merci Alpine renaissance du mythe tricolore !!
Merci renault aussi et surtout
Fière d’être 🇫🇷
What a fabulous drive, obviously 2 very skilled drivers and 2 very capable vehicles - thanks for sharing
Amazing Alpine A110 !
Nice video. The advantage the alpine A110 is its featherweight. As a result, 250 hp is enough for him to compete easily with a 385 hp Cayman Porsche. Light is right. I have one and on winding mountain roads, the Cayman is dropped.
The Alpine A110S will be even more impressive… making space in the garage now! ;-)
That is a great drive. The Porsche interior is lovely!
Respekt an den Alpine Fahrer!👍
Ich mag ja beide! Cayman GT4 und die Alpine!!!😎
.... Deshalb hab ich beide...
@@janhochgeschurz5575 angenehm 👌🏻
I love both these cars. But the Alpine is sooo pretty!
the alpine's acceleration out of the corners is insane
It looks to me that it is made to look insane because the Cayman driver is hitting the apex early and has to wait to get the power down, so the Alpine is carrying more speed onto the straights
Alpine driver taking better lines, probably with less steering input
It's on semi slicks
Schwacher "Hausfrauerporsche" Fahrer selbst bei materialschonender Fahrweise ist da locker mehr drin, immer zu frueh vom Gas, Runterschalten und Hochschalten - mehr Uebung auch mit Leasingvertrag 🤣
@@dalakerdaniel9240oh schau, ein Internet-Troll….
The Alpine is batshit crazy in the corners ! :-o
Yup semi slick tyres and a track set up race suspension will do that.
Racing line perfection to the Renault
The VW driver did a great job as well !😂
Porsches are great track cars but this alpine is rapid... more horsepower = faster on straigts, less weight = faster everywhere.
Camber I thought the Porsche had more horsepower than the Alpine?
Alpina in this video has stock 252 PS vs Porsche 385 PS, its not about power... Alpina is a great car and driver to 😗
@@joesmoe8983 yes but heavier
@FUCK SHIT yes more balanced
The Alpine is tuned, so its most likely pretty close to the Porsche in terms of power.
Wait for Alpine A110s ;)
Great lap - excellent battle by both drivers!
Not a car vs. car comparison to the degree it is a driver vs. driver. Both play a part. Both amazing cars.
The GT4 definitely left some time on the table, with some VERY sensible short shifting at moments (gotta bring it home), and the Alpine driver doesn't have to deal with a third pedal.
Overall, seemed like a great day out for both :-)
Bon travail Renault 👍🏻
4:19 the Porsche driver whispers "Scheiße" because he can't believe the straight line performance of the Alpine A110 😂
It's amazing that the 4-cyl Alpine gave a 4.0L 6-cyl track-focused Porsche a real run for the money.
Correction: the 4-cyl Race prepped Alpine with race suspension and semi-slicks. Set up by none other than probably the most famous ring handling company Manthey.
@@jamesmay1322 I love your work Mr May 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@PhilbyFavourites you're talking to dingleberry hand plum
surprising how hard the Cayman driver had to work, as well as cut curves and run on curbs. Whereas the Alpine appeared to be driven by somebody taking his 5 o'clock tea on the Nordschleife. And the Cayman had just a chance when the Alpine was slowed down due to some Porsches blocking the road. Am really surprised
Alpine was running semi slicks: Dunlop Direzza go look them up. That's why it's so comfortable in the corners when the GT4 is struggling for grip on it's road tyres (yes Cup 2's are road tyres). The Alpine also has race suspension set up by one of the best ring specialists, so no surprise at all it held it's own against what is ultimately still a road car with road suspension alignment.
Great manual Cayman ..and Alpine is fast...Nice vid :)
Une alpine qui survol le débat devant un cayman GT4 Je dis c'est beau cocorico!!!
Putain le pilote de l'alpine devait bander !!
Problème de grip sur le Cayman a mon avis, les pneus crient à l’agonie à chaque virage.
@maxence : l'A110 de cette vidéo a des suspensions KW réglées par MANTHEY Racing (vainqueurs des 24h du nurburgring....!!) et des pneus semi slicks !!! donc tu t'es fait rouler dans ton ressenti.
@@lensoprezole5322 preuves... Comment tu sais qu'elle est préparée l'Alpine
Raphaël Lecerf je me pose la même question! En tout cas j’ai été surpris car à chaque reprise en ligne droite la bleue monte plus vite en vitesse que P ! C’est étonnant. Et je la connais bien j’en ai une depuis 360 jours.
That little Apline really gets out of the corners well... properly quick!! Shame I'll have to wait 20 years to get one in the 'States.
Thanks ! Fantastique course ! Gearbox manual ❣
SHEESH that Alpine was quick, but hats off to this porsche driver for keeping up with it! Especially in a manual transmission.
Holy Moooly that Alpine can't be catched easily! Impressive.
It's got a full track suspension and tyre set up.. not running road tyres like the GT4 is.
@@jamesmay1322 Nice, thanks for the infos! This wasn't mentioned in the video description. So, this means to me that the Alpine has a nice chassis, if it can handle the track with just these improvements. By the ways, It Would be nice to see both cars with the same setup, cause I think the stock tires on the Porsche make it loose a good amount of grip 👀👀cheers!
Man that Alpine is pulling hard, even out of the corners. Might be time for the GT4 to visit MR for their package...
Le gars dans le GT4 est au MAX... Je veux un ALPINE ... Simple & Funky
Sorry for the roughness but the Alpine slapped the shit out of the Porsche.
That Alpine is really fast, im impressed! Less weight and automatic gearbox also help!
What a great car the Alpine is. Was that Renault a regular Alpine or an Alpine S? I wish we could buy it in the United States. I think the Alpine is also the most beautiful car available today. I can only speak of what you show in your video and it seems you guys were having a lot of fun for sure. Said that, Caymans have been my tool of choice for track time for a long time due to the purity of them and I think I know them very well and I do make them justice going around any track in the USA. Of course the GT4 is the holy grail of Caymans and the only faster Caymans are properly race prepped ones which are lighter and faster. I also instruct in high performance driving education for 15 years which is something I really love doing. The facts from your video are that you were short shifting the GT4 in a lot of places and you were giving space to the Alpine voluntarily or involuntarily. You were not carrying enough speed through some turns and you were over braking a bit. Your turn-in was a bit impatient and early in a lot of turns which slows you down everywhere. You could also be more precise and smooth with your steering, brake and gas inputs which would yield for you much faster lap times because you do not have to waste lap time catching the car. I mean all of that with the utmost respect. There is no way a car with the power of the GT4 and with wider and bigger front tires than the rears on the Alpine would be slower around a track like your video depicts. I assume you are in the GT4 factory rubber Cup 2 Michelin but even if you were in street rubber with say A300 + wear rate and the Alpine was in R compounds say A200 - , I may buy that you could not reel him if the tires were that different. At the end of the day, I still feel that the GT4 would have the edge around a track with such terminal speeds compared to this Renault Alpine.
The same driver should drive both cars and then it would be a lot more objective.
Keep having fun!
Normal Alpine with stock power....only suspension and tyres... And it's true the real test is with the same driver...because skills and knowledge can make a big difference on Nurburgring.
Andres R Torres Alpine S is grey-color and orange-Color brakes
Pas mal cette petite bataille 😊
Can we take a minute to appreciate that this little car exist ? It's plenty fast , with the a110s better still , looks good in my opinion , and you can get 39 US mpg / 44 UK mpg / 6.1 L/100km , and because it's an 1.8 l engine from the Megane , i bet the maintenance costs are lower as well .
Beauty of balance and agility,
no need many horses and weight on the truck folks.
We must admit fun handling on the french bleu!
So much "wrong" in this video and i love it. Alpine A110 just disappearing in the straight at the face of Cayman GT4 (that has like 100+ hp more?), how they both *casually* passes 911 GT3? Awesome stuff
I really expected the Porsche to reel in the Alpine on the straight bits! Enjoyed watching this👍
pål aukan Read my comments...
@@sixpotshot what did it say? Can't be bothered to find it.
I'm a big fan of the A110 and I didn't expect that !! (even with after market tyres and lower suspensions)
More than just aftermarket tyres: Semi slicks, and not just a lowered suspension: a race suspension set up by one of the most famous ring specialist companies. Put that up against a car (even a more powerful one) with road tyres (Cup 2's are road tyres) with a stock road suspension alignment and what you get is the video above. No surprise at all.
I am a Porsche lover, but this is really unbelievable 🤔
Matthias Schneider possessor of a110 for 9 months and user of circuits I already met 4 porschists - which one of GT3- who no longer use their Porsches since they acquired their A110 !!!
possessor of a110 for 9 months and user of circuits I already met 4 porschists - which one of GT3- who no longer use their Porsches since they acquired their A110 !!!
No it's not.
Dev Site yes ; it's a sad reality, and besides, they become complicated to sell
Thomas B.0512 en toute honnêteté, sur les 3 circuits que j’ai faits, jamais je n’ai vu une A110 en surchauffe; cela dit on ne fait jamais plus de 10 tours d’affilée! Faudrai voir en rallye. En GT4, à Pâques 2019 à Nogaro, elles ont terminé à trois dans les cinq premières places face aux R8, AMG GT4, BM...J’ai vu une seule A110 avoir des pb dès le premier tour à Alès pour cause de carte-mère déréglée et que les mécaniciens ont réparé en 20 mn. Renseignements pris le proprio était arrivé avec ce pb et en avait parlé avant de prendre la piste
Impressionnant l’alpine... la vitesse de passage en courbe...😮
FUCK SHIT oui je sais... par contre je ne sais pas ce qu’ils ont mis sur l’A110S... les pneus sont plus larges mais je ne sais pas s’ils sont « downgradé »
@FUCK SHIT En effet l'A110 est équipée a la base de Michelin PS4 dégradée pour faire des glissades, mais à mon avis ce ne sont pas les PS4 d'origines qui équipent cette A110...
Elle accroche trop bien et les changements d'appuis sont juste ouf !
En tout cas, le conducteur de l'A110 maîtrise super bien. 🤗
@@pistoniverse Il paraît que ce sont égalements des PS4 sur la future A110 S...
Pour faire du circuit, il vaut mieux des SS ou PSC2 voir equivalent chez d'autres manufacturiers...Je ne sais pas ce qu'il y a de disponibles dans cette taille.. Mais vu le niveau de l'A110 "standard", l'A110 S équipée de pneus accès pistes, devrait laisser plus d'une sportive sur le carreau. 😎😎
Une superbe auto a la conception topissime !!! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
mikky greg je crois que les PSC2 n’existe pas en dessous des 18 pouces😰
L’alpine est en KW compétition et Dunlop Direzza, rien qu’avec ça tu gagnes 20 secondes au tour au ring par rapport à l’origine
It's really weird that I saw that Alpine and got really excited that it's the new one, and then at the top right the suggested video is the new Alpine in the same blue from carfection. UA-cam algorithm is my homie!
Jeez that alpine is quick and looks very confidence inspiring to drive at the limit
Alpine 👍👍👍
amazing Alpine 😍
where was the camera attached?
Will take delivery of an Alpine Bleu a110 GT tomorrow. My 991.2 is at the dealership for sale.
If the Alpine was manual, I'd buy one, end of story. But they're not, so I'm getting a GT4. Don't care if the Alpine is faster, the sound of the GT4 will become a rare commodity in years to come, and it's manual only. Brilliant package.
The Alpine is not faster - read my comment...
SixPotShot Its faster - read the comments of OP or Porsche driver.
Men the Alpine even with gear shift padll is much more fun to drive just test and you will die of shock
Alpine has double wishbones front and rear plus it only weighs 1250 kg with driver and fuel, it's indeed a very fast track car with excellent handling.
shingnosis 1130 with fuel full...
My 407 has double wishbone too
Very Nice
plus this one has semi slick tyres and race suspension set up for the ring specifically by one of the rings most famous specialists
That A110 goes out of the bends like a cannonball, are you sure is stock? I mean that Porsche its supossed to have 400 hp and it gets smoked every time...
The power of Light weght
RENAULT DOMINATE PORSHE WITH INTELLIGENCE
Great vid, surprising result I’m gaining more and more respect for the Alpine. I wonder how my Exige would’ve faired amongst you two 🤔 all great cars!
Alpine would leave it for dead bro 😂
What would the GT4 have done if it was a A110S or better still a Litchfield A110...????
the main difference is: the Porsche driver was probably grinding his teeth, while the guy in the Alpine had a big smile on his face ;)
To less shiftings to keep the Cayman on speed.
Alpine late braking was aggressively great. Haha.. it seem alpine driver is a professional.. can you see the way he/she control the car in good racing line. The entry and exits are perfect for me.
Is ALPINE imported in Québec ?
Phil Le French : not as yet. Maybe later ? It could also depend on the cost of upgrades requested to make this car fit with the canadian laws and the hard climate 🤔
Normalement oui , elle est bien vendue au Japon et en Australie !
What a f*cking battle! Bravo gents
Now lets try With the alpine A110 S
Belle course...😉
Nice ride!
Astonishing to see how the alpine is transfigured compared to the stock version.
Finally somebody who gets the significance of fitting semi slick tyres and a full race set up suspension (set up by one of the most famous ring specialist companies no less).
What were the mods on that Alpine!?
I hope you sold the Cayman GT4, made some profit from a speculator or Porsche brand snob, and bought an Alpine after this experience! And that's not even the A110S which is better suited to a track!
Time to order an Alpine A110 for myself. Damn!
Any onboard from the alpine? It also looks really rapid in a straight line
Apparently the engine has been left untouched, so 252 hp for 1100 kg... I believe the Cayman is at 385hp for 1450 kg, the latter has the better power/weight so it should be quicker and faster.
@@nvl2691 More bhp or better p/w doesn't necessary mean quicker.
The Alpine is faster in a straight line up to ≈ 180 km/h. When I was driving the same Alpine (my very first lap), I pushed a 996.2 GT3 with experienced driver out of the way … ua-cam.com/video/7F3GPmif_Iw/v-deo.html
@@fuchsroehre it looks very quick and stable indeed. Hope for some more videos of the car!
L'Argus made onboard
The power of lightness. If only Porsche will make 2400 lbs street car.
Read my comment...
SixPotShot Your comment is nonsense because the car in video has stock power level
Sehr schön anzusehen.
Da haben sich zwei gefunden, auf der Strecke.
Nice
Weight ... is the key.
However... great drivers!
Zehr schön ! Bravo à Alpine et à Porsche !
enjoed it deeply!, nice driving for both.
Did nobody here catch the fact the Alpine is on semi-slick tyres? That'll make all the difference, easily worth a few seconds around a 1.5 mile track let alone the length of the ring. Plus it's on aftermarket KW suspension. So what a surprise it's better around a track than something with road car tyres, (cup 2's are still firmly road tyres, not even close to semi-slicks).
At 4.19 it seems to be ...sheett...Viva le bleu 🙂! Great performs coming from France 🍾60000€ 😫
Seems like a lot of coasting and short shifting in the GT4
Quel manque de trajectoires et de freinages de la part du Porschiste par rapport au conducteur de l’Alpine....Flagrant !
Au contraire je trouve que le Gt4 a de meilleures traj et il rattrappe souvent l A110 au freinage. L A110 rentrait trop tard dans les cordes.
Florian fixman pas d’accord regarde bien la vidéo de plus près l’alpine a des trajectoires plus précises et du coup elle a des reprises de vitesse plus rapide que la Porsche !!
Cool! Both are fine, but with my A110S can't wait to visit the Nürburgring! ... I think it would show up with similar performance but better handling inside of turns ...
When you say the A110 is pimped by Manthey, does this include and power or chassis upgrades? The A110 is a fantastic car but I am surprised the GT4 couldn't get closer
ECU I suppose, so there you have a solid 300hp in a very light car, and with arguably better line over the track that's why the GT4 can't catch up especially in tight sections. Impressive from both drivers.
@@TheSkyline35 Apparently appart from KW and tires the Alpine is Stock, ie no ECU modifications.
Too cute how the little Alpine eats up one Porsche after the other with it's little 1.8 turbo I4! 🤣
Excellent drive, dear Sir. Far superior driver than Alpine driver!
Best part of this video is how gentle the driver’s hands are, unlike those ham fisted death grip POV videos
Out of breath just watching it. Lovely work rate. Whatever has been said about the lines from the onboard or short shifting and such, that Alpine looks an eminently easier machine to throw about and pick and adjust your line. The onboard on that might show it being more hectic. I still think I'd rather own one of Stuttgart's finest, but when the relaunched Alpine first came about pitted against Porsche everyone was laughing. At least now it's a genuine dilemma for the serious enthusiast. I think I'd prefer the Alpine, but I don't like the steering wheel and the infotainment stinks - I find the rest of the build inoffensive of you take into account the weight saving principle. But the biggest issue... Constantly explaining your choice to people who would never understand...!
You don't have to explain when no one can catch up with you.
It's on semi slicks - makes a huge difference to the grip.
Die Alpine hat potenzial, so wie alten Vorgänger :)
An die Fahrer, gute Leistung jeweils :)
That’s a great ride although I feel like the GT4 was always short shifted from 3rd to 4th but am no Nurburg expert nor have the in car feeling
Wow, super sauber gefahren! Schade, dass der alte GT4 gegen den modifizierten Alpine so alt aussieht.
no seatbelt light on the Porsche dashboard?
Great driving but check how the Alpine engages the turns and check how the driver of the video does... He's attacking those turns way too early losing some speed on the way. There's even a moment, almost at the end of the race where the vibrator pushes him away from the turn at 6:05. You have to hit the apex in order to reduce the steering lock but yeah easier to say than doing.
Respect anyway to both drivers and cool video.
It would be interesting to see an RS version of the Alpine...something with the fancy suspension like the one of the Megane RS Throphy, carbon treatment, about 350hp, etc.
There is a new Alpine A110s wit almost 300hp.
No need to add a crazy amount of power and make the same mistake than the competition, this car is all about the perfect balance between weight, chassis, suspension and engine power. It's a full sport car package too much power added would kill this perfect balance.
The Alpine A110 S coming soon. Alpine said it's will be not the radical Alpine A110, just a sporty style of the regular A110. I guess we must wait maybe one more year for see the first new of true A110 hardcore version.
Make no mistake, the Alpine 110 was very much developed by Renaultsport. Rumours are that the latest Megane RS will be the last and focus will switch more to Alpine and I suspect that will mean more powerful variants like the 110s and other models yet to come
mikes1471 Issue with more power is that the A110 gearbox isn't particularly strong. So I suppose the folks at Dieppe would have to either redesign the gearbox, or strengthen it!
@@lucianwisniewski8693 Well it can handle almost 400 hp in the tuned Megane RS's, so it should be fine.
That alpine driver is pretty quick.
Wow that Alpne..! Amazing
incredible Alpine! I want One for its effectiveness but especially its look !! :-p
Any in board footage of the Alpine?
L'Argus Alpine on nurburgring
Great vid, good camera positioning, good sound, nice driving from your side! A pleasure to watch.
A110 looks surprisingly strong here despite taking awkward lines, how much modifications did it have? A110S should be hard to follow here, looking forward to more Cayman vs A110 confrontations.
Semi slick tyres, race suspension set up by one of the best ring specialist companys.
I wish america got alpines.. I would pick it over any new car in a heartbeat. Especially because of how light they are.
Alpina suuuper quick
not a fan of the look of the Alpine but have to admit its got great handling and weight distribution.
Alpine A110, la plus belle réussite de chez Renault Sport ! Il n'a qu'a voir, le carnet de commandes. 👍🇫🇷
Jean-yves Derick oui franchement je serais blindé il y en aurait une dans mon garage !!
@@albertf.9770 , vous en avez commander une !
@@jean-yvesderick6085 non lol j'ai pas les moyens malheureusement 😕
A110 say you good bye ! 😁😂😂😊
i hate to admit it but the alpine is destroying the most radical version of the cayman... kinda sad
I can’t see how the Alpine is faster than the GT4 let alone pulling away. Would be interesting to see both cars driven by the same driver.
Read my comment...
Turbo torque out the bends
Light weight and agility
Drazen Budis of course...on the straights :) fool yourself
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