My 10 year old son, also massively ADHD, loves your videos and he knows nothing about coffee. When he heard the beat boxing he looked up and said “I love that guy”
I greatly appreciate that you aren't afraid to tackle mods right away, unlocking a good bit of untapped potential at a fraction of the cost of something more robust. With the Niche now climbing up to $670 (and being ugly to boot imo), it's nice to see something seriously compete at half of the price
DF54 owner here. BIGGEST TIP: buy straw cleaner or something like that, put it into chute to fast clean it every 0,5kg of coffee or so. No static, no mess, all is perfect, no need to unscrew anything.
I have had my DF54 for about 7 weeks (total beginner with BrevDB) and loving every cup (except some really overroasted decaf I should probably toss). Landed it was ~CA$330. I probably won't do this mod unless I could somehow taste the difference prior to the mod time and $ outlay. I would rather spend the cash on excellent beans. My brews have spoiled me for 99% of the coffee shops around so I would definitely buy the DF54 again! It also does not take up a lot of space. Static seems low but live on the Canadian Wet Coast. Love your vids lance.
Got mine 4 - 5 months ago and It's been a delight. I don't think my budget would've stretched any higher but it's incredible what you get for the money.
I can't be the only person disappointed that this video didn't actually review the DF54 stock - all the actual brewing and discussion is centred around the modified version.
Thanks for the review. Tossing my $265.00 Baratza Virtuoso + after failing in 9 months. Warranty service sucked, so we’re back to using our 30 year old pulse grinder for the time being.
I really love how you complement Hoffman's video! he's full stock and doing great analysis and you come in and drop the sick mods! Just one thing please start with full disclosure at the start of the mod. I was allready looking where to get the Ditting burrs and then I hear "reversing the motor", "shims for espresso", "Ioniser doesn't work"... that's a ton of if's but's and maybe's. but still great video!
@@desun75 The grind level on the DF54 leans a little finer and I'm grinding a little more coarsely for pour over which is easier to dial in I find with my handgrinder currently. Also its been great for immersion and moka pot though!
I absolutely love using this little thing. Affordable, simple, consistent. All you really need. The mod is an interesting thing to see, thanks for sharing that!
I think once the population of DF54 in the wild reaches tipping point there will be lots of burr options but tbh I love the coffee produced by mine and changing would be more for the fun of experimenting rather than "better" coffee
@ I may get one as just espresso grinder. I have many other grinders but they are all doing double duty for filter Nd espresso and multiple coffees frequently.
so like for those forum screenshots. It would be nice to have a source in the video in some corner. Gives credit and makes life easier for people searching to read the rest of the conversation.
thanks for the reply. I think it’s just my university OCD writing scientific papers. Citing everything I didn’t create myself is one of the important fundamentals scientists work on. Though I do think that applies to journalism as well.
As always, nothing but praise for your videos! BUT, I also wanted to add that I'm digging your new fashion! I mean, you've always been stylish, but that shirt just pops against the predominantly white and black background. Looks sharp!
I bought this in preorder. I've been using it almost a year now. Super happy (except for retention issues and the ionizer getting dirty). I'm excited for something more to mod :) thanks for figuring out the electronics for me
1:14 that's the wrong niche for anyone wondering it was the Niche Zero that was conical he's talking about but this is the successor, the Niche Duo with flat 83mm burrs shown in the video.
@@LanceHedrick Make sure he watches more of your videos :D I was just pointing it out in case someone was like oh I didn't know the niche zero had flat burrs!? lol
When this grinder came out, i instantly knew it was the future, so i decided to wait for the moment when SSP would recognize this and start production of 54mm burrs. Im not sure where SSP stands on this now, but im surprised it hasnt happened yet.
Thank you for the comment "the window for dialing in is much smaller than the cone burrs". This is a very, very, very important thing to me. Less wasted coffee is a thing I enjoy. I tend to prefer roasts on the darker side of medium concerning specialty coffee (think Onyx eclipse and darker). I got a drinkable shot from 20-40 seconds on the ESP before I gave it up when moving back to the EU. I don't think this one is for me. I basically want a more refined ESP with more settings in a dedicated single dose platform. I think I know what I need I just don't want to spend the 800 euros with import and taxes. I totally get that this is great for a lot of people and am glad it exists though! Thank you for the informative and enjoyable video, as always.
DF54 Delivered for 144£. Happy to be setting aside my old Ascaso conical burr stepless grinder that drifted constantly finer as it tried to kick off the hopper and shoot beans across the floor. Not going to be modifying mine. Boringly dependable is good for me.
I bought this grinder on a whim. Was on verge of getting Baratza encore ESP but really dont like its aesthetic. It was the middle of the night and I was thinking about grinders again and searching reddit. Someone mentioned DF54 was coming and I just googled it as I hadn't heard of it before. The Singapore distributor was only site listing it for pre release, so I just thought I'll order it, so I can sleep. I then woke up with a whole lot of doubt and even tried to cancel my order as I was sure i was getting scammed haha. Thankfully it arrived quickly and the rest, as they say is history. I'm usually such a research/comparison person but this time I just took a chance and I'm glad to see it's getting a lot of love all round as its my first grinder. My last "grinder" was a nutri bullet! 😂 Smashed the living crap out of them beans.
I have a df54 and the only time it has struggled is with Sawada beans from chicago: extremely dark roast, super oily, and with winter there's low humidity in the air casuing it to clump and effectively choking my grinder. Outside of that it has been a great experience as a daily driver for one espresso a day
I replaced original plastic cup with Ikape blind shaker. Far better than Mhw-3bomber because top of the shaker has curved edges that fit better on the rubber holder
I ended up with the exact same workflow a few months ago (bought DF54 at release) after trying the dosing cup and grinding direct to portafilter. Grinding into the blind shaker is by far the smoothest workflow, and it eliminates the static from the plastic cup.
This looks excellent. I feel like this will be a mod I'll do eventually, this should be a nice upgrade rather than lusting after a new grinder. I think I'll wait until there's an update for the ionizer before I take the plunge
Honestly, I clicked on this video because you lost some weight and wanted to see If you last more weight😊, which you did. This is super inspiring! Keep up the good work! Love your video's greatings from the Netherlands
Almost bought a DF54 when they first came out, but I was concerned the grind speed was too slow (the main reason I got rid of my last grinder). Ended up buying the DF64 Gen2. No regrets. Having said that, if I wasn't impatient, this seems like a great grinder for the price.
You mentioned that the niche has a very forgiving sweet spot, and that's exactly why I love mine. I can swap back and forth between my favorite coffee and my favorite decaf and not have to adjust the grind. Super glad to see this video, though, I was just being asked about cheap grinders at work.
I had two Baratza grinders, Sette 270 and then Sette 270wi. Both failed catastrophically after about 2 years of usage, each, because they have cheap plastic internal construction. I finally bought Ceado e37s. It works like a charm and so far is cheaper to own than the "cheap" Baratza grinders which you need to replace every couple of years. Sometimes, just sometimes, it is actually cheaper to buy quality item and not have to replace it for a long time.
I'm guessing they'll eventually release a DF54 Gen 2 which will come with a button to reverse motor direction and option to select stock, ditting steel, or ceramic burrs on purchase.
I've been looking at this grinder for a wee while now, currently using a Sage Smart Grinder Pro, It's been solid enough but I'm not getting enough flavour from beans I'm using.. Appreciate the video Mr Silky Milky man (Lolz) 😂Big thumbs up from scotland dude 👍 😁
Got a DF83V on the way - was intrigued from your mini overview of it in that lineup video you did. Didn't bother with SSP burrs for now but ive read good things about the DLC stick burrs they use.
That's a really interesting mod, reversing the motor like that. Is there enough room inside to put in, say, a 2pole2throw switch, so you can swap directions with the flip of a switch?
Recently got a Df64 and feel like the 54 would have been perfectly fine. Not going to bother changing, but it's fantastic there are so many options available now!
@ShayanGivehchian exactly - I've found the stock burrs perfectly good, and if the df54 tastes similar, the stock burrs are already very good. I find them quite balanced - more sweet and acid than my hand grinder (feld 47), much more clarity. Not doubting better options are out there, but I am loving the stock burrs and very happy with my purchase. Even came with a brush to help keep the chute clean lol
this grinder is my first expresso grinder, to pair with my first expresso machine, the bambino/ I've had no issues with it, using it every day for 5 months.
Hello sir Lance. Very comprehensive and helpful review as always. As stock form, flavor wise, without considering that there are more upgradability options for DF 64 gen 2, would you say holding out and saving 150-200$ more to get DF64 Gen 2 instead of the DF54 would be worth it?
The increased retention, loss of de-ionizer, and loss of warranty will probably keep me from making the mod. Hopefully SSP will produce a 54mm option soon!
@@ahpadt I completely agree and I love the 54mm Ditting steels! I used them for a couple years as a multipurpose set and I actually prefer them to the SSP MP as I find them much more forgiving for espresso. They are a truly outstanding multipurpose burr set! I only say hopefully SSP makes a set as I highly doubt Ditting will custom make a set for the DF54, but SSP might if the demand is there.
Hey Lance! Love your videos and what you do. Incredible amount of passion. I am about to purchase a Decent Espresso machine. I thought I wanted the mechanical type, for the feel, but after watching your very informative videos I’ve learned it’s the only way to truly be in control of all aspects involved. One thing I hadn’t thought about was how much amperage these machines use. I had no clue it would be such an issue. How am I supposed to run a machine like that on a normal 15a outlet? Not to mention a grinder alongside. How do I do it safely? How do people run a machine like this in an apartment? I spoke directly with Decent, and they said it would be fine on a regular 15amp outlet (they did recommend it be a 20amp outlet though). Do you think I’ll be okay with a regular 15 outlet, or do I have to have an electrician come out to run 12 gauge wire for a 220/240v outlet with its’ own circuit breaker? Lastly, if I’m going to go the route like Decent, would you get theirs or another similar one? Would you wait for the Bengle to come out instead? Any would be extremely appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻. Keep killing it, brother 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Does this mean other 54mm burrs will fit if the polarity is reversed? I have the DF54 with standard and tbh I love it as it is but the "Mad Professor" in me would buy another one and reverse it for burr a swapping extravaganza.
Well I think you’ve convinced me to get some Dittings for my DF54. How many shims did you end up putting in Lance? I don’t mind doing some rewiring, but after trying to hyper-align my Ode 2 I’m hesitant about anything related to shimming 😅
I'm sure I won't taste the difference compared to my Starseeker conical, and I don't drink light roasts, but I like the look of this thing. More substantial, gives it some purpose on the counter. Maybe when I move back to Portugal I'll come and steal yours. ;)
Great video however I will say the connections you did did not get hot enough. When using those heatshrink connectors you need to get it hot enough that the little metal band in the middle melts it’s actually a little ring of low temp solder and has a lower melting temp then the plastic around it. I’m not saying it’s a guaranteed fire hazard but the lack of a good connection between the wires with solder can cause excessive heat.
I have a DF83 that I 3D printed a new larger chute of someone else's design in which they relocated the ioniser electrodes from the left side of the chute to the right side. What I've noticed is they stay significantly cleaner on the right side, probably because the grounds enter towards the left side of the chute (the burrs spinning clockwise) therefore not hitting and sticking to the electrodes. This has been better for static. So I'm curious, if the DF54 design is the same, would switching the motor to counter-clockwise help with static at all or at least the electrode build-up?
@LanceHendrick I’ve read a lot of quality control issue but essentially the motor at first started stalling and then would fail to spin at all. I opened it cleaned it , realigned burrs etc. it only has maybe 20 days of use on it and I Cole start every time . Maybe made 40 single dose espressos on it . Luckily I bought from Amazon and Miicoffee and they were able to refund so no love lost . Just looking for the next best thing under $500 😂
I've seen you have been using the timemore pro kettle lately. What is your opinion on it? Will there be a review or even a comparision between kettles in the near time?
Thanks for the video! How much of a gap in flavor you expect from stock DF54 to the Philos? I have one on order but maybe should just play with the 54 instead given the reviews
@LanceHedrick any chance you could demo/explain the wiring change again? Maybe step by step, Hoon couldn’t figure it out on his live stream so was not able to show us to make it clearer. Thanks!
I got mine a couple of months ago, it's been amazing for filter coffee and espresso. I swapped the dosing cup/portafilter holder for a 3D printed stand for a blind shaker and the static issue mostly went away.
Lance, great video. Question, How do you think this 54 with burr swaps would compare to a DF64 with SSP MP? I've got a set of MPs which I could use if I acquire a DF64 gen 2 for ~$350-400 and swap in the MP's, or get a 54 and dittings for ~$300. What would be gained in your opinion? This would be mainly for espresso as I have other grinders for pourover.
Argh, I got the notification and jumped to the video hoping it’s the review for the Mazzer Philos 😅 No sweat, this will do as well 😄 How would the DF54 rank in your grinder tier list? (if it was mentioned, apologies but I missed it)
I don’t used to drink alcohol, so, in a trip to USA two months ago I bought this grinder while a was drunk…so, I’am analyzing to make that kind of choices while I drink 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My 10 year old son, also massively ADHD, loves your videos and he knows nothing about coffee. When he heard the beat boxing he looked up and said “I love that guy”
I hope he will never lose the interest to coffee making and he will get one day his own coffee shop and earn his money !
❤
Hoffman's mini review whetted my curiosity for the DF54. This video is perfectly timed 👍
Kingrinder 6 gave out after 9 months of heavy use. Got a df-54 coming early next week, ordered it a couple days ago.
where hoffman mentioned it? couldn’t find it
found it 😊
The entire Pavoni Tech group from FB thank you for the honor of seeing the black and gold in action again! Great review!
That is an absolutely gorgeous machine.
evvai Forza Pavoni 😊
What's this? A grinder I can afford?
You can afford any grinder! Some of them just mean you'll have to stop paying your rent/mortgage and utilities for a few months though...
It's more expensive than several grinders so why are you acting like affordable grinders never existed before this one.
Is it me or people don't understand sarcasm no more?
@@Tvaikah this was a joke comment on a UA-cam video so why are you acting like its the president giving a state of the union address?
Used forte or vario and no mods.
I greatly appreciate that you aren't afraid to tackle mods right away, unlocking a good bit of untapped potential at a fraction of the cost of something more robust. With the Niche now climbing up to $670 (and being ugly to boot imo), it's nice to see something seriously compete at half of the price
I wouldn’t be talking about how ugly the Niche is when we have the DF right here
Calling the niche ugly is a real hot take haha
The niche is *beautiful* what are you talking about
DF54 owner here. BIGGEST TIP: buy straw cleaner or something like that, put it into chute to fast clean it every 0,5kg of coffee or so. No static, no mess, all is perfect, no need to unscrew anything.
True
MiiCoffee supplies one with the grinder.
I’m this is probably the dumbest question going, but could you elaborate on straw cleaner please?😂
@@dougryrie a wire with a brush that you put inside and move around
@ ah right thanks! Should have guessed really 😆
Tip if you have this grinder: the MHW 3Bomber 51-54 mm shaker cup it fits perfectly in the rubber catch cup grip
Noted.
does it also fit df64?
Haha true, I have that one too and was so surprised it held perfectly. Much better workflow.
odd that the standard dosing cup is 58mm but the bomber 51-54mm shaker fits
Just got this. Doesn't fit very well. Am I missing something?
I have had my DF54 for about 7 weeks (total beginner with BrevDB) and loving every cup (except some really overroasted decaf I should probably toss). Landed it was ~CA$330. I probably won't do this mod unless I could somehow taste the difference prior to the mod time and $ outlay. I would rather spend the cash on excellent beans. My brews have spoiled me for 99% of the coffee shops around so I would definitely buy the DF54 again! It also does not take up a lot of space. Static seems low but live on the Canadian Wet Coast. Love your vids lance.
Got mine 4 - 5 months ago and It's been a delight. I don't think my budget would've stretched any higher but it's incredible what you get for the money.
Wow, Lance. You transformation is exciting!
Thanks for new video, hope you are doing well
Glad he called it out early doors because it’s inspiring to see the accountability and sticking to his goals.
I was already 90% of the way convinced that this would be my first electric espresso grinder. This definitely convinced me it’s 100% the right option.
Why not buy the grinder that spins in correct direction in the first place?
I just got mine today!! This is perfect timing! So excited to have a proper grinder finally!
I can't be the only person disappointed that this video didn't actually review the DF54 stock - all the actual brewing and discussion is centred around the modified version.
I spoke about it but explained why i didn't focus on it. Hoffmann covered it well and I agree with him. And I spoke about the flavor profile.
Bought it three months ago and I LOVE it!
Thanks for the review. Tossing my $265.00 Baratza Virtuoso + after failing in 9 months. Warranty service sucked, so we’re back to using our 30 year old pulse grinder for the time being.
I purchased this grinder months ago when there weren’t many good quality reviews online. Glad to see I made a good choice
I really love how you complement Hoffman's video! he's full stock and doing great analysis and you come in and drop the sick mods! Just one thing please start with full disclosure at the start of the mod. I was allready looking where to get the Ditting burrs and then I hear "reversing the motor", "shims for espresso", "Ioniser doesn't work"... that's a ton of if's but's and maybe's. but still great video!
fwiw the ioniser barely works without modification too!
I grabbed a DF54 earlier this summer and have been really happy with it for the price. I still hand grind using a kingrinder for pour over
Is it not great for pour over?
@@desun75 The grind level on the DF54 leans a little finer and I'm grinding a little more coarsely for pour over which is easier to dial in I find with my handgrinder currently.
Also its been great for immersion and moka pot though!
I was just about to buy this. Hesitated for a few days, now I absolutely need to buy it today lol
You’re showing off with that black and gold La Pavoni. Also, I needed that singing and beatbox. Thank you!
I absolutely love using this little thing. Affordable, simple, consistent. All you really need.
The mod is an interesting thing to see, thanks for sharing that!
Love seeing and hearing you speak about all things related to coffee. Great work!
If they made these ditting burrs the other way no mod needed! We can dream!
I think once the population of DF54 in the wild reaches tipping point there will be lots of burr options but tbh I love the coffee produced by mine and changing would be more for the fun of experimenting rather than "better" coffee
@ I may get one as just espresso grinder. I have many other grinders but they are all doing double duty for filter Nd espresso and multiple coffees frequently.
so like for those forum screenshots. It would be nice to have a source in the video in some corner. Gives credit and makes life easier for people searching to read the rest of the conversation.
Tbf just Google the title of the thread and boom. But I can try to add later
thanks for the reply. I think it’s just my university OCD writing scientific papers. Citing everything I didn’t create myself is one of the important fundamentals scientists work on. Though I do think that applies to journalism as well.
@@jusch5937 you're right tho
Another great video, thank you Lance. Also, you are looking great, keep up the good work on whatever you’re doing for fitness!
Super great mod suggestion. I think i will wait a bit before I go this route, but always nice to know I can.
As always, nothing but praise for your videos! BUT, I also wanted to add that I'm digging your new fashion! I mean, you've always been stylish, but that shirt just pops against the predominantly white and black background. Looks sharp!
Totally. But I miss the hair!
I bought this in preorder. I've been using it almost a year now. Super happy (except for retention issues and the ionizer getting dirty). I'm excited for something more to mod :) thanks for figuring out the electronics for me
Do you RDT
very excited for this review! Literally bought one two days ago, I feel very validated!!
Had the Fellow Opus, hated the workflow. Changed it to DF54, and am so happy I did
1:14 that's the wrong niche for anyone wondering it was the Niche Zero that was conical he's talking about but this is the successor, the Niche Duo with flat 83mm burrs shown in the video.
Sure. Hugo just tossed in b roll. Is what it is.
@@LanceHedrick Make sure he watches more of your videos :D I was just pointing it out in case someone was like oh I didn't know the niche zero had flat burrs!? lol
When this grinder came out, i instantly knew it was the future, so i decided to wait for the moment when SSP would recognize this and start production of 54mm burrs. Im not sure where SSP stands on this now, but im surprised it hasnt happened yet.
Picked up a df54 recently. Love it so far☺️. Great purchase .
Thank you for the comment "the window for dialing in is much smaller than the cone burrs". This is a very, very, very important thing to me. Less wasted coffee is a thing I enjoy. I tend to prefer roasts on the darker side of medium concerning specialty coffee (think Onyx eclipse and darker). I got a drinkable shot from 20-40 seconds on the ESP before I gave it up when moving back to the EU.
I don't think this one is for me. I basically want a more refined ESP with more settings in a dedicated single dose platform. I think I know what I need I just don't want to spend the 800 euros with import and taxes.
I totally get that this is great for a lot of people and am glad it exists though!
Thank you for the informative and enjoyable video, as always.
I bought the Starseeker 55mm conical burr grinder for 200 euro delivered to my door excellent grinder for espresso and pour over.
I've had my starseeker e55 for a couple weeks now and I love it for espresso. Super easy to dial in as well.
DF54 Delivered for 144£. Happy to be setting aside my old Ascaso conical burr stepless grinder that drifted constantly finer as it tried to kick off the hopper and shoot beans across the floor. Not going to be modifying mine. Boringly dependable is good for me.
I bought this grinder on a whim. Was on verge of getting Baratza encore ESP but really dont like its aesthetic. It was the middle of the night and I was thinking about grinders again and searching reddit. Someone mentioned DF54 was coming and I just googled it as I hadn't heard of it before. The Singapore distributor was only site listing it for pre release, so I just thought I'll order it, so I can sleep. I then woke up with a whole lot of doubt and even tried to cancel my order as I was sure i was getting scammed haha. Thankfully it arrived quickly and the rest, as they say is history. I'm usually such a research/comparison person but this time I just took a chance and I'm glad to see it's getting a lot of love all round as its my first grinder. My last "grinder" was a nutri bullet! 😂 Smashed the living crap out of them beans.
I have a df54 and the only time it has struggled is with Sawada beans from chicago: extremely dark roast, super oily, and with winter there's low humidity in the air casuing it to clump and effectively choking my grinder. Outside of that it has been a great experience as a daily driver for one espresso a day
I replaced original plastic cup with Ikape blind shaker. Far better than Mhw-3bomber because top of the shaker has curved edges that fit better on the rubber holder
Shaker cup is just the latest fad like WDT and RDT were, I like watching the grinds come out into the see through plastic cup.
Which size Ikape blind shaker do you use? I see 51mm, 53.3mm, and 58.5mm.
I use 51 mm
I was already wondering why I couldn't find it on your tier list. :)
the blind shaker fits! so nice
I ended up with the exact same workflow a few months ago (bought DF54 at release) after trying the dosing cup and grinding direct to portafilter. Grinding into the blind shaker is by far the smoothest workflow, and it eliminates the static from the plastic cup.
Same here!
More reviews, and definitely more beatboxing please and thank you Lance!
I have this grinder. Its a nice grinder, works really well.
Nice looking grinder and the haircut looks great!
This looks excellent.
I feel like this will be a mod I'll do eventually, this should be a nice upgrade rather than lusting after a new grinder.
I think I'll wait until there's an update for the ionizer before I take the plunge
Honestly, I clicked on this video because you lost some weight and wanted to see If you last more weight😊, which you did. This is super inspiring! Keep up the good work! Love your video's greatings from the Netherlands
Love the interesting video incl bonus la pavoni demo 😊
Your coffee skills greatly exceed your beatboxing skills;)
Almost bought a DF54 when they first came out, but I was concerned the grind speed was too slow (the main reason I got rid of my last grinder). Ended up buying the DF64 Gen2. No regrets. Having said that, if I wasn't impatient, this seems like a great grinder for the price.
i leggit just bought it, got it in today and lance drops this video about it, perfict
Finally i can actually start considering buying an automatic grinder
Feel like a great video would be: BEST BURR SETS 2024. Cant really find any good content on this lately.
I brewed something tasty today because of your videos! Just wanted to say thanks. ❤
My man you are looking fit and healthy
You mentioned that the niche has a very forgiving sweet spot, and that's exactly why I love mine. I can swap back and forth between my favorite coffee and my favorite decaf and not have to adjust the grind.
Super glad to see this video, though, I was just being asked about cheap grinders at work.
I had two Baratza grinders, Sette 270 and then Sette 270wi. Both failed catastrophically after about 2 years of usage, each, because they have cheap plastic internal construction.
I finally bought Ceado e37s. It works like a charm and so far is cheaper to own than the "cheap" Baratza grinders which you need to replace every couple of years.
Sometimes, just sometimes, it is actually cheaper to buy quality item and not have to replace it for a long time.
Transparent catch cup is functional though. You can watch your grounds come in from the side 😊
I’m awaiting the super-budget category. That’s yr market 🙃
I don't like the idea of messing with the wiring so I'm just going to enjoy the stock burrs unless anything comes out in the future.
I'm guessing they'll eventually release a DF54 Gen 2 which will come with a button to reverse motor direction and option to select stock, ditting steel, or ceramic burrs on purchase.
Not unless they make it with a DC motor
Always digging the content, keep it coming!
I've been looking at this grinder for a wee while now, currently using a Sage Smart Grinder Pro, It's been solid enough but I'm not getting enough flavour from beans I'm using.. Appreciate the video Mr Silky Milky man (Lolz) 😂Big thumbs up from scotland dude 👍 😁
Attack of videos. I love it!
Got a DF83V on the way - was intrigued from your mini overview of it in that lineup video you did. Didn't bother with SSP burrs for now but ive read good things about the DLC stick burrs they use.
df54 at 250$ or df64 gen2 come with dcl/dlc burr at 340$. what is better value? or should i keep my eureka mignon facile/manuale?
DF64Gen 2 with DLC is deff better, also you have more options in the future to upgrade your Burrs unlike DF54.
DF64 gen2
Used Baratza Vario
That's a really interesting mod, reversing the motor like that. Is there enough room inside to put in, say, a 2pole2throw switch, so you can swap directions with the flip of a switch?
Recently got a Df64 and feel like the 54 would have been perfectly fine. Not going to bother changing, but it's fantastic there are so many options available now!
If you don't plant on swapping burrs probably yes.
@ShayanGivehchian exactly - I've found the stock burrs perfectly good, and if the df54 tastes similar, the stock burrs are already very good. I find them quite balanced - more sweet and acid than my hand grinder (feld 47), much more clarity. Not doubting better options are out there, but I am loving the stock burrs and very happy with my purchase. Even came with a brush to help keep the chute clean lol
I think the reverse motor mode can go even further with a DPDT SWITCH to make the switch easier to standard mode to reverse mode...
this grinder is my first expresso grinder, to pair with my first expresso machine, the bambino/ I've had no issues with it, using it every day for 5 months.
Would you recommend df54 over Eureka mignon zero if they are same price?
Hello sir Lance. Very comprehensive and helpful review as always. As stock form, flavor wise, without considering that there are more upgradability options for DF 64 gen 2, would you say holding out and saving 150-200$ more to get DF64 Gen 2 instead of the DF54 would be worth it?
The increased retention, loss of de-ionizer, and loss of warranty will probably keep me from making the mod.
Hopefully SSP will produce a 54mm option soon!
It would be nice if SOMEONE did!
You dont need ssp when you have these ditting burrs. The steelies have as much clarity as 64mp but with better body.
@@ahpadt you do if you don’t feel comfortable rewiring a $300 appliance. And the vast majority of users won’t.
@@ahpadt I completely agree and I love the 54mm Ditting steels! I used them for a couple years as a multipurpose set and I actually prefer them to the SSP MP as I find them much more forgiving for espresso. They are a truly outstanding multipurpose burr set!
I only say hopefully SSP makes a set as I highly doubt Ditting will custom make a set for the DF54, but SSP might if the demand is there.
12:38 What kind of cool looking hand lever espresso machine is that!?!
We need more beatboxing! Also, you’re looking great! You always did look naturally strong so it’s awesome that you are tackling your health.
Considering this is a beginner grinder for most people, how are the stock burrs?
Just had a thought at your B-Roll of the Niche Duo… we need Sheldon to make a carrier set for the 80mm burrs.
Is the DF54 still worth it without the mods and ditting burrs? Also, always thrown off by how mad decent your beatboxing is
you need your own coffee company, need that hoffman industrial money
Hey Lance! Love your videos and what you do. Incredible amount of passion. I am about to purchase a Decent Espresso machine. I thought I wanted the mechanical type, for the feel, but after watching your very informative videos I’ve learned it’s the only way to truly be in control of all aspects involved. One thing I hadn’t thought about was how much amperage these machines use. I had no clue it would be such an issue. How am I supposed to run a machine like that on a normal 15a outlet? Not to mention a grinder alongside. How do I do it safely? How do people run a machine like this in an apartment? I spoke directly with Decent, and they said it would be fine on a regular 15amp outlet (they did recommend it be a 20amp outlet though). Do you think I’ll be okay with a regular 15 outlet, or do I have to have an electrician come out to run 12 gauge wire for a 220/240v outlet with its’ own circuit breaker? Lastly, if I’m going to go the route like Decent, would you get theirs or another similar one? Would you wait for the Bengle to come out instead? Any would be extremely appreciated 🙏🏻🙏🏻. Keep killing it, brother 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Does this mean other 54mm burrs will fit if the polarity is reversed? I have the DF54 with standard and tbh I love it as it is but the "Mad Professor" in me would buy another one and reverse it for burr a swapping extravaganza.
Nice review but sick beatbox BurrMan!
Well I think you’ve convinced me to get some Dittings for my DF54.
How many shims did you end up putting in Lance? I don’t mind doing some rewiring, but after trying to hyper-align my Ode 2 I’m hesitant about anything related to shimming 😅
How did you even align your Ode Gen 2, I couldn't ever get burr touch for some reason.
@@JusBThankful Honestly after like 4 hours of doing it I just gave up. Wasn't worth the hassle. It's why I hardly use it now over my comandante.
@@CombustibleLemons yeah, yup, same. I stuck SSP's in mine, and typically go for my K-ultra.
I'm sure I won't taste the difference compared to my Starseeker conical, and I don't drink light roasts, but I like the look of this thing. More substantial, gives it some purpose on the counter. Maybe when I move back to Portugal I'll come and steal yours. ;)
Skip to surprise mod! Skip to surprise mod!
I needed this
Great video however I will say the connections you did did not get hot enough. When using those heatshrink connectors you need to get it hot enough that the little metal band in the middle melts it’s actually a little ring of low temp solder and has a lower melting temp then the plastic around it. I’m not saying it’s a guaranteed fire hazard but the lack of a good connection between the wires with solder can cause excessive heat.
I have a DF83 that I 3D printed a new larger chute of someone else's design in which they relocated the ioniser electrodes from the left side of the chute to the right side. What I've noticed is they stay significantly cleaner on the right side, probably because the grounds enter towards the left side of the chute (the burrs spinning clockwise) therefore not hitting and sticking to the electrodes. This has been better for static. So I'm curious, if the DF54 design is the same, would switching the motor to counter-clockwise help with static at all or at least the electrode build-up?
I bought a df64 gen 2 and it broke within 3 week so I’m hesitant to buy another on of these clones to be honest . Reliability should be the #1 feature
What happened to your's? I've taken this apart and can't see how that would happen on a concerning scale
@LanceHendrick I’ve read a lot of quality control issue but essentially the motor at first started stalling and then would fail to spin at all. I opened it cleaned it , realigned burrs etc. it only has maybe 20 days of use on it and I Cole start every time . Maybe made 40 single dose espressos on it . Luckily I bought from Amazon and Miicoffee and they were able to refund so no love lost . Just looking for the next best thing under $500 😂
I love the mod videos
I've seen you have been using the timemore pro kettle lately. What is your opinion on it? Will there be a review or even a comparision between kettles in the near time?
at 7:34 the burr doesn't spin concentric at all, but slowly wobbles back and forth (!?) ...which is odd
No it doesn't. That's an optical illusion because of the central nut
Just bought the df 54 a few weeks ago. Pretty great results, but curious where you typically start for a range for filter or espresso.
COFFEE GOLDEN AGE BABY.
Thanks for the video! How much of a gap in flavor you expect from stock DF54 to the Philos?
I have one on order but maybe should just play with the 54 instead given the reviews
Lance Hedrick: The Specialty Coffee Human Beat Boxin' Machine!!! 😊😊😊
@LanceHedrick any chance you could demo/explain the wiring change again? Maybe step by step, Hoon couldn’t figure it out on his live stream so was not able to show us to make it clearer. Thanks!
I got mine a couple of months ago, it's been amazing for filter coffee and espresso. I swapped the dosing cup/portafilter holder for a 3D printed stand for a blind shaker and the static issue mostly went away.
Lance, great video. Question, How do you think this 54 with burr swaps would compare to a DF64 with SSP MP? I've got a set of MPs which I could use if I acquire a DF64 gen 2 for ~$350-400 and swap in the MP's, or get a 54 and dittings for ~$300. What would be gained in your opinion?
This would be mainly for espresso as I have other grinders for pourover.
Argh, I got the notification and jumped to the video hoping it’s the review for the Mazzer Philos 😅 No sweat, this will do as well 😄 How would the DF54 rank in your grinder tier list? (if it was mentioned, apologies but I missed it)
I like your hair in earlier videos.... 🎉
I don’t used to drink alcohol, so, in a trip to USA two months ago I bought this grinder while a was drunk…so, I’am analyzing to make that kind of choices while I drink 🤣🤣🤣🤣