Troubleshooting a Bryant Defrost Board

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  • @life.b.s
    @life.b.s Рік тому +5

    One of the best, if not the only video I found breaking down this board. Really helped me diagnose and fix a low voltage intermittent short

  • @fera.9811
    @fera.9811 16 днів тому +2

    Thank you for an awesome explanation

  • @AerialHeatingAir
    @AerialHeatingAir 3 роки тому +5

    This is probably the BEST explanation I've watched on the defrost broad!!!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      I don't know about that now...but I'll take it! Thanks.

  • @ronniehvac653
    @ronniehvac653 Рік тому +2

    Thanks John. You're one of my top 10 go-to UA-cam techs. Really need help on my heat pump heat mode troubleshooting skills and this video helps a lot. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому +2

      Thank you. U never would have thought when I started doing this that someone might say that but am glad to hear that you are putting in your time to learn more. Learn something from anyone...whether it is what to do or not to do!

    • @Ray-wr2wr
      @Ray-wr2wr 8 місяців тому

      hi do you know by any chance where is 24v coming from to the reverse valve O terminal

  • @tonysharoneubanks2762
    @tonysharoneubanks2762 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for sharing! The info on heat pumps and defrost boards is much appreciated!

  • @johnavi
    @johnavi Рік тому +2

    This is what I'm talking about.... another John getting it done better than the rest. Good video man

  • @felixtrejo4542
    @felixtrejo4542 3 роки тому +3

    Hey John thanks for your explanation, that is one of the best videos I’ve seen on this Board.

  • @jordancroom
    @jordancroom Рік тому +2

    Awesome video John, I’ve been watching a lot of your videos learning a ton. Great explanations, making it easy to understand 👍

  • @jorgeestrada3894
    @jorgeestrada3894 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us sir.

  • @otisjohnson9651
    @otisjohnson9651 7 місяців тому +1

    Break it down to me like I am a 3yr old! Excellent!

  • @Leon-q6g
    @Leon-q6g Рік тому +2

    Hey John, thank you very much to explain.

  • @CHOMAHOMA
    @CHOMAHOMA 3 роки тому +2

    Yes, very helpful and educational videos on boards. Thank you.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Thanks. They are fairly easy once you get a few basic ideas down.

  • @erichawkins2944
    @erichawkins2944 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. You explain everything so clearly.
    Thanks!

  • @ezequielmarrero6633
    @ezequielmarrero6633 8 місяців тому +1

    Very well explained thank you sir for sharing it

  • @danielsever7894
    @danielsever7894 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video… this helped me troubleshoot my A/C👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  2 роки тому

      Great to hear. Really the only intention I have is to help with that a little. Thanks for checking it out.

  • @ManifestEminence7
    @ManifestEminence7 11 місяців тому +1

    Freaking great video! Thanks for making so many things make more sense

  • @DreamLand20
    @DreamLand20 3 роки тому +1

    Very good one. This was useful for me. Thank you👍👍👍

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Awesome. Glad it was useful and thanks for checking it out.

  • @balfretsoriano4795
    @balfretsoriano4795 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you very grateful to you an excellent teaching God bless you

  • @franciscosegura5890
    @franciscosegura5890 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Thanks, man!

  • @jermainejackson5299
    @jermainejackson5299 2 роки тому +1

    Best knowledgeable video and well put🍻

  • @nakiapringley5391
    @nakiapringley5391 2 роки тому +1

    Great video brother 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @PalmasHeatingcooling
    @PalmasHeatingcooling 3 роки тому

    You deserved a lot more subscribers. Great video

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Thanks. You are to kind. I believe in a good foundation and try to get that across. If you have it the rest is easy...right?

    • @PalmasHeatingcooling
      @PalmasHeatingcooling 3 роки тому

      @@johnjennings-JJ exactly! keep up the good work.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Appreciate it.

  • @Tonyhvac
    @Tonyhvac 10 місяців тому +1

    Good job 👍🏽

  • @bobbyburt3636
    @bobbyburt3636 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Thank you

  • @hvaclifeatx7012
    @hvaclifeatx7012 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video!!!!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Thanks...Here on the Atlantic coast there are some people who are gonna see if that defrost board works this weekend!!

    • @hvaclifeatx7012
      @hvaclifeatx7012 3 роки тому

      @@johnjennings-JJ I’m sure they are😂

  • @BillyN31
    @BillyN31 Рік тому

    Thank you! I’m in New England and we don’t have a ton of heat pumps up here.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому +1

      👍 I can see why more furnaces are used up there, I don't know id a heat pump could compete with a Nor'Easter!

  • @channelname8623
    @channelname8623 5 місяців тому +1

    0:49 it would have been nice for you to finish that thought, similar to r coming in, c going back, y comes in then goes out of that other y just to the right (guessing thats how this board is setup), and goes to the compressor/condenser fan contactor.
    edit: 1:56 nvm you cover it at this timestamp.

  • @chesstime356
    @chesstime356 Рік тому +1

    Nice video man

  • @scottallen5182
    @scottallen5182 3 роки тому +1

    Very well done!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Thanks. They are pretty simple boards though so I can't take all the credit.

  • @henrydang1644
    @henrydang1644 3 місяці тому +1

    The little square black box in the defrost board will do the job when the system defrost, the contact gonna turn from NC to NO to shut the CFM off, right?
    Thank you sir!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. That black box is just a relay, coil and a set of switches.

  • @robertpalmatier2699
    @robertpalmatier2699 2 роки тому +1

    I finally understand these

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  2 роки тому

      They are fairly simple boards to get the general idea of...

  • @spencerstewart1833
    @spencerstewart1833 Рік тому

    Good info. Thanks man!

  • @henrydang1644
    @henrydang1644 3 місяці тому +1

    The 2 wires pink are the temperature switch will always have 24 voltage on the top terminal of the plug, then send it to the sensor, and the other plug in the bottom is return path with no 24 unless the condenser coils get frost and it will have the 24v send back to the board then run the defrost, right?
    Thank you sir!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 місяці тому

      Yes. It is a simple switch and has 24v on one side of it all the time and it only passes power back to the board once it senses that the coil is cold enough.

  • @LifeofAngel24
    @LifeofAngel24 Рік тому

    Hey John great video I know all defrost boards are the same but I would like it a lot if you were to make a video on a trance defrost board

  • @passionpit
    @passionpit 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the cool info John. I have a unit where there';s zero voltage coming from the board ..on any termonals.. I checked the coninuity of the sensors .. There's 220V on the board relay termonals . Thinking this board is dead! I ordered a replacement!f How say you?

  • @erichawkins2944
    @erichawkins2944 3 роки тому +1

    Please make a video on the sequence of operation for both cooling and heating modes. Thanks a lot!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the comments. I will try and make those videos happen.

  • @nooneofconsequence-e4p
    @nooneofconsequence-e4p 28 днів тому

    Thanks for the video. I tested the voltage on my HK32EA001. The voltage reading between C and R is 5.5v. In the video you said it should be 24v. Can you advise.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  28 днів тому

      You need to find a full 24v! You need to backtrack and find power...if you got 5.5 at the wire nuts outside the you need to check R and C and the air handler connections. If you have it on the air handler end of the wire but not on the heat pump end...may be a wire connection (loose wire nuts, corrosion, etc) or a break in the wire!

    • @nooneofconsequence-e4p
      @nooneofconsequence-e4p 28 днів тому

      @@johnjennings-JJ thank you for the reply. I appreciate the information.

  • @henrydang1644
    @henrydang1644 3 місяці тому

    So in the state like FL is hot so the defrost function won’t need, right? It usually run the defrost when the condenser coils is frost? Just a little bit confuse and I am living in FL
    Thank you sir!

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 місяці тому +1

      Florida might be a little warm for wintery conditions and you might not even use a defrost...like you said. It may also be warm enough where you are at to thaw out when the unit isn't running. Lot of weather dependent possibilities! You are on the right track i think.

  • @simmonsjr25
    @simmonsjr25 3 роки тому

    Awesome I sure will sir.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Remember what you learned on this one, it may be a while before it gets cool enough to see a defrost problem.

  • @techfive7202
    @techfive7202 3 роки тому +1

    Appreciate ya

  • @mark.r8900
    @mark.r8900 Рік тому

    Hi, so during defrost the indoor coil is cold AND the auxiliary heat is on at the same time? And there's very hot air blowing across the coil? Is this correct? Great video. Thanks

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      Thanks. Defrost mode is really just your a/c on with the heat strips running at the same time if you have just a standard all electric setup. Your defrost board will handle all of that and not the thermostat of course. The heat strips just temper the air so that it isn't a blast of cold air coming through the vents in winter. Not sure about the "very hot air" you mentioned.

    • @mark.r8900
      @mark.r8900 Рік тому

      Thank you

  • @simmonsjr25
    @simmonsjr25 3 роки тому

    Very good info.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Glad you think so! I am going to have to get with you one day and get some video ideas that you want to see. Don't let me forget.

  • @iamdjcertified2
    @iamdjcertified2 2 роки тому

    Hi John, love this video... I have the HK32EA003, the board is fried around the transistors and resistors... could that cause the outdoor unit not coming on? Contactor, Capacitors, and everything seem normal.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  2 роки тому

      Short answer,...Yes. If the board has burnt circuit it is very likely. Of course I could go with the..."you still would need to troubleshoot to be sure" route but I think that board is simple enough that it contactor outside should be powered if you have 24V on 'Y' going into it. If power is going in on 'Y' and the unit isn't running then those burnt transistors, resistors, etc. are probably to blame.

  • @Parabellum-X
    @Parabellum-X 2 роки тому

    I'm a little confused. At 10:19, you read 0V on your multimeter, and stated that was because the switch was open. If electricity is attempting to flow through a switch, but that switch is open, then, when you place your leads on either side of that switch, you should be reading a measurable amount of potential difference (aka, voltage). Is that 'switch' that you were referring to instead perhaps a load, by any chance? 🤔

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  2 роки тому

      It is because of the way I was checking it. That circuit is just a hot 24v leaving the board, going to the switch that monitors the coil temperature. I used the 24v common from the main plug to check for power going into the switch (1st check) to read 25 volts and then out of the switch (2nd check) and got 0 volts. I get what you are saying but in this case it is just because of the way I did the voltage checking. I like the hopscotch method best and that is the way I did it in that part of the video.

    • @Parabellum-X
      @Parabellum-X 2 роки тому

      Okay, it makes much better sense now, only when you told me that you used the hopscotching method!
      God, please don't say, "It's just the way that I was checking it."
      Long story short, I am still in school right now for HVACR. (I already have a background and experience with electricity.) When it came time for my instructor to teach the class about voltage, he never once used the words 'potential difference' in describing the measuring of voltage. Instead, he simply said, "It's just the way the machine reads it." 🤦‍♂
      As an instructor of HVACR, he should've explained to the class that the 'machine', or multimeter, is like a calculator; it is merely subtracting the DIFFERENCE in POTENTIAL voltage between the outside of the leads and the voltage on the inside.
      (He also never once used the terms 'backseating' and/or 'frontseating' when describing the fully opening and/or closing of service valves on units. It's kind of sad that after paying this college thousands of dollars of my hard-earned money, I learned those terms from studying a book that I had to pay an additional $150 for on Amazon.)
      I know; it's probably petty. I don't why that causes my OCD to let that bother me so much... 😆

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  2 роки тому +1

      Everybody is different in their explanation of stuff. I would say not to be too tough on the teacher because they can only teach it the way they know it! School should only be the beginning and make you dig a little deeper on your own. I know I have been through the same thing starting out in the field. You doing extra research and studying only makes you better!

  • @edwardgarza5104
    @edwardgarza5104 3 роки тому +1

    Once the compressor contactor gets a call to run, it also sends 24v to T1? And once the compressor has been running for the desire amount of time selected without turning off the defrost will engage? Which will still keep the compressor contactor intact. Then it would also be in defrost for the same amount of time selected? Hope this doesn't sound confusing. Just wondering the main purpose of T1 and how it works.
    Thanks

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому +1

      T1 is supposed to track how long the contactor "Y" circuit has been energized...simulating how long the compressor has run. It doesnt have to be 30/60/90 minutes consecutively. Once the run time and coil temperature are ready the board goes into defrost. Defrost doesn't last more than 10 min but can be quicker.

    • @edwardgarza5104
      @edwardgarza5104 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnjennings-JJ ok so the 30/60/90 mins is not defrost lengths? 30/60/90 are compressor run time determination?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Yes. Defrost is a fixed 10 minute max on many time/temperature boards like that unless the coil temp warms up quicker and the coil is cleared of frost.

  • @mdtabul4043
    @mdtabul4043 3 роки тому

    Nice information

  • @gotchaplumber
    @gotchaplumber Місяць тому

    Ruud unit: what is the OCT & OAT terminals, and what are they used for?
    Also, what is the D terminal. Does it feed as W to light heat strips?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  28 днів тому +1

      That one must be a Demand Defrost board. There are 2 temp sensors (thermistors) tied to the board. OCT is Outdoor Coil Temp, OAT is Outdoor Air Temp. I believe it is a purple wire factory connected to the D terminal and yes it goes to the white wire we typically use to turn on the heat strips in Defrost!

    • @gotchaplumber
      @gotchaplumber 28 днів тому

      @johnjennings-JJ Thank you!

    • @gotchaplumber
      @gotchaplumber 27 днів тому

      @johnjennings-JJ Thank you for helpful insight.

  • @mr.fixdaplate
    @mr.fixdaplate 3 роки тому

    Nice john...

  • @normanwick3929
    @normanwick3929 9 місяців тому

    My current situation: Split System HVAC compressor and fan do not operate. Indoor unit and thermostat working properly. Capacitor is new. When I depress the plunger on the relay, they both start. There is no 24v to relay coil. Coil has continuity. Pressure switches have continuity. OF1 & OF2 has continuity. What's left? Could the HK32EA007 Board be bad?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  9 місяців тому

      You have to find the 24v for the contactor coil..sounds obvious I know... Is it coming into the outdoor unit at all on the thermostat wiring from the air handler? If not, contactor shouldn't be running. May have a float switch in the drain keeping it from passing to the outdoor unit.

    • @normanwick3929
      @normanwick3929 9 місяців тому

      So, oddly enough, I went to the outside unit to check voltages at the board with my DMM. As I checked power to Common at the T1 C C O connector, the Relay Coil energized and the AC has been running fine ever since. Not sure what happened to make it do that? Thanks for your response!!!

  • @par4n1
    @par4n1 Рік тому

    Ive replaced and tested my capacitor. If this board is bad can it keep my fan from running while in A/C cooling mode?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      It is possible. You probably have two black wires (for the outdoor fan motor) on the relay of the board. One comes from the contactor and goes into the relay, the other goes from the relay to the fan motor. Take the fan motor wire and plug it onto the contactor where the other black wire is coming from. This is a way to bypass the relay and see if the problem is the board or not. The fan should come on with the compressor in a/c mode so long as the capacitor and motor itself are good.

  • @AaronHubbart-t6m
    @AaronHubbart-t6m Рік тому

    Hey chasing a low voltage short.. found it on r going to defrost board. Does that mean it’s the board is bad?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      What do you mean 'going to defrost board'? Did you find it in the circuit before the board or are you saying it is kinda because of the 'R' terminal/circuit on the main plug of the board?

  • @jeddi20
    @jeddi20 Рік тому

    Watching the power graph of my inside and outside unit I get power spikes up to 13k watts. Is this the unit going into defrost cycle?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      Sounds like it. A compressor and 2 fan motors running and then turn on a couple 5,000 watt heat strips...sounds just like a defrost!

  • @bluegrassdna5572
    @bluegrassdna5572 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @MLDIYSH
    @MLDIYSH Рік тому

    Does this board have anything to do with an issue I’m having (2.5t carrier heat pump): 1) When power is applied to the outside condensing unit, thermostat off, compressor and fan runs and will not turn off. 24v on the cyan/pink stripe and energizing contactor.

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      Anything is possible but that is not probably the case. The circuit on this board that goes to the contactor is pretty much a straight shot through the board...no switches to stick closed. With the thermostat is set to OFF, I would check for 24v between the yellow wire and common wire (whatever color it is) in the low voltage connections at the air handler. If you have it there then it might be a bad thermostat. I have seen a few a stances of rubbed wires and it made a connection between the red and yellow wires...or someone with a weed eater near the outdoor unit maybe?

    • @MLDIYSH
      @MLDIYSH Рік тому

      @@johnjennings-JJ thanks 🙏. That isn’t the case for me unfortunately. R O G Y are all off on the contactor side inside. It boggles my mind where and why that cyan/pink stripe is energized and from where. I’ll have to take off the outside fan and follow that wire this weekend.

  • @SallyT1014
    @SallyT1014 Рік тому

    I tested the power getting to the board and it read 25-25V then the unit immediately shut off and now no power. Could this still be the defrost board or likely a bigger issue?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      The power for that board comes from inside so I wouldn't blame the defrost board yet if you are talking about 24v power at the R & C connection. Probably need to check for power at the transformer to make sure. If you have 24v on the secondary output, you have to follow it to see where you have and don't have it anymore.

  • @vkgovernance5441
    @vkgovernance5441 Рік тому

    if there is 0 voltage on the time check at T1 then is the board bad?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      I wouldn't say that. Sounds like a loose wire or something. T1 gets power from the 24v 'Y' side of the contactor coil so no 0v is probably a loose wire from contactor to board or either you don't 24v going to the contactor yet.

  • @smokeysmith1282
    @smokeysmith1282 Рік тому

    What’s the field test to initiate defrost at the board?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому +1

      The board needs to see a closed defrost coil sensor, or you can jump it out by removing the plug from the board and place a jumper wire in its place, then use something metallic and sort the 2 "test" pins together for a short period of time. Usually between like 7 and 25 seconds. If everything is ok it should go into defrost and stay there until the defrost coil sensor opens. Make sure to remove the screwdriver or whatever you are using to short the test pins together as soon as you hear it switch over to defrost.

    • @smokeysmith1282
      @smokeysmith1282 Рік тому +1

      @@johnjennings-JJ ThankYou, I replaced a failed defrost temperature sensor yesterday and needed to test the defrost cycle after installing the replacement dfts.

  • @Ray-wr2wr
    @Ray-wr2wr 8 місяців тому

    where is 24v coming from to the reverse valve ?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  8 місяців тому

      It should come from 1 of 2 places. The thermostat sends it in normal operation or the defrost board during heat mode if the unit outside needs to defrost.

    • @Ray-wr2wr
      @Ray-wr2wr 8 місяців тому

      @johnjennings487
      Thank you for quick reply!
      I just install 3 ton Goodman heat pump I have 18/5 coming from 3 ton Goodman heat pump to the airhandler midway I spliced with the thermostat wires or should I run thermostat wires straight to the airhandler and connect both 18/5 condenser and thermostat to the airhandler? Reason why I'm asking my reverse valve on the condenser makes buzzing noise ( and no 24v only 17v
      I'm a EPA certified based on long island NY, I mostly install minisplits Fujitsu, Mitsubishi etc

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  8 місяців тому

      I prefer a straight run of new wire on a new system but splices aren't bad as long as it works I guess. Every job has its own issues. I wouldn't focus on new vs spliced right now unless you find out that your voltage drop is due to the old wiring or loose connection, etc. You have to find the reason for that voltage drop. Break out the voltmeter! Wish there was something else to say but I don't think it is right now. 17 ain't 24 and it needs 24! I'd be curious to know what you end up finding.

  • @biblebloopers946
    @biblebloopers946 3 роки тому

    So does the timer begin only when they temperature meets that requirement and closes the switch?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      Supposedly so. Carrier prints the defrost sequence in the unit manual as the coil getting cold - closing the switch - and then it runs the timing sequence of 30 60 90 minutes.

    • @biblebloopers946
      @biblebloopers946 3 роки тому

      @@johnjennings-JJ
      Thank you

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  3 роки тому

      No problem

  • @enriquesiquina
    @enriquesiquina Рік тому

    The unit goes to defrost time eve 10 minutes what should be ?

    • @johnjennings-JJ
      @johnjennings-JJ  Рік тому

      Make a defrost coil sensor that is stuck closed? This board is constantly gathering the time requirement (30-60-90 minutes) and need to "think the coil is cold enough to need defrosting. If the defrost sensor is closed then it will go into defrost and keep going if it is stuck closed.

  • @napoguevara6450
    @napoguevara6450 Рік тому

    🫶👍

  • @elijah4242
    @elijah4242 8 місяців тому

    Why does this sound scripted