It's crazy to think such advances in physics science and engineering to boil water to turn a turbine. Basically the world's most advanced and expensive coolest steam engine 😅
The problem is always the same even if you have a infinite source of energy Will be suppress because our capitalism system is based on oil will be a long walk 😌
This is more than just engineering. People have been working all their lives so humanity can exist on earth even after these hardworking people might not even be here to witness it. 👏
Our generation appreciates the mind boggling hardworking people and scientists who contribute to such projects for the comfort of the next generations ❤❤❤
As much as I respect the efforts and incredible knowledge involved in creating this behemoth machine...All I see can really see is an epic catastrophe plot for the most devastating disaster movie ever made! Let's hope that the elusive simple solution to our endless energy needs is found before we blow the whole planet up!
Fusion is the main energy source at my home. I like millions of others use solar panels and powerwalls for all my electric needs including charging my Model Y.
Regardless of which fusion scheme proves eventually to be viable, Thorium fission in a molten salt reactor will be commercially available and cheaper than fusion energy, and the fuel is already molten, so there is no need to worry about a meltdown.
Would be very cool to see it implemented. I remember back in College talking about two different styles of fusion reactors, one I recall as the Tokamak, it would be great if we could get them to propel interstellar craft. But what about Zero point energy? That is now proven as a thing. Along with quark fusion.
Even if you are right, what about the economics? In the decades when I was involved on the edge of fusion research, the mantra was that the capital cost of a fusion reactor would be a favour of six more than a fission reactor.
The physics of landing humans on Mars works out just fine, but so far nobody put up the money. Not everything that can theoretically be done is worth the trouble.
@@jamesrindley6215 Humans won't make the trip without spin gravity and shielding equivalent to 1 meter of water. Also, a crew of 5+ will most likely be needed.
Did anyone know about isbutain in a clear pipe as long as it's not in contact with oxygen it can traverse the pipeline in a plasma bubble?imagine an endless loop and twisted to mobius looping a ball pushing it around the flow sparking in spaced areas they are so much hotter in a way
Just think, this is the beginning. Once we master the technology we can work with materials that aren't the easiest but will provide an even higher energy return.
Fission already doesn't make greenhouse gasses. Fusion reactors that achieve not just ignition, but Net Energy Gain are apprimately 25 years away and always will be. It's called the breakthrough horizon.
this might be the most efficient in terms of fuel but how about in terms of rare earths, nobel metals and such? how many thorium plants could be built for the same resources? thorium has to get used up anyway so as to make rare earth production cheaper.
After we solve the Plasma reactor and all the cost of development, Do you think we could get to work on the homeless people and solving and also other earths issues.
It is believed that Nikola Tesla created a wireless energy transmission system, but it was never commercialized due to concerns about its potential impact on the electrical industry.
Yes, TESLA'S discoveries, 100 years ago, have been hidden from the world. They would have greatly benefited mankind, providing limitless cheap energy anywhere.
The model still seemes to be as it is today, ie a large generating plant and long cables to connect to towns. What about much smaller, local systems, without the need for long transmission lines?
The Tocamak will never work 4 commercial electricity! The 1's who designed & built this thing are the best Phd. scientists the world has 2 offer working on this thing! This is why was built in the vicinity of CERN! All the talent is already there! The Laer Fussion Reactor is the way 2 go! Although this isn't a Nuclear Reactor, Radiation is still present!
The ITER tokamak is not expected to be finished in 2025. The project's initial start-up has been delayed by nine years, from 2025 to 2034. The plan is now to skip the initial phase and begin research as soon as possible using a more complete machine. The tokamak will then undergo research for over two years before reaching full plasma current operation in 2036. After that, the reactor will shut down for further assembly and is expected to begin D-T operation in 2039.
Are you familiar with this thing called MATHEMATICS? I don't think it's a wild statement to take the total amount of energy contained in a body and work through the binding and potential energies of the nucleons (there are these things called computers that help with the aforementioned -voodoo- mathematics). Then you take the amount of energy released by fusing elements together (more math, more computers) and compare that to an arbitrary value (100%? 90%? 20%? what's "terribly inefficient") Then, using this tool we have called cognition, we arrive at a conclusion: either the reaction is inefficient or it's not. What's wild about this? I should think, having studied chemistry, astronomy and physics at an undergraduate level, that it would be a wild statement to say the sun sun is made of really cold applesauce. so....I guess, qualify your remark? Unless you're happy to just broadcast both your incredulity and your obliviousness, then hey, I won't kink shame
Research is always good but cost and safety is the finial factor. Imagine where we would be if as much had been invested in renewable energy research the last 30 years. Then for base power use Thorium-based nuclear power. Sadly just like renewable power generation the Chinese are starting to dominate just as they are with Thorium as a nuclear power source.
Just so fantastically complex and massive!! And is this even a commercial size reactor?! What happens if one of those coils fails, or the plasma escapes confinement and destroys some or all of the interior walls?! Stripping the reactor down for repairs, if that's even possible, would take months or years and cost an incredible amount. Is there any prediction of service life? I'm not convinced the iter reactor is a viable solution. The collapsing bubble concept is interesting but is it scalable? And could it operate at a commercialy viable output for 25 years without needing frequent overhauls? These guys are obviously extremely intellectual but are they being swept along by the excitement of unknown technology? I think fusion or some as yet undescovered technology will eventually provide the energy needs of humanity but it's a while away. Personally I think wave power is being overlooked, it has been proven to be capable of providing enough energy for the whole world, and is infinite and constant in human terms. Day and night without fluctuation. The engineering is challenging but nowhere near the level of fusion toroid reactors, or as expensive.
The problem with wave energy is one of environmental issues. To generate the amount of energy needed will involve a substantial intrusion into the living space of aquatic life.
Haha, will ITER ever be finished. It currently does mot sound like it. I guess iter will just be another science experiment. There is currently more chance to get energy positive fusion with a Stellarator, not with a Tokamak. Let's see which if the current Fusion startups will succeed first, but it will not be ITER, unfortunately.
just spin the plasma, it will squeeze along the walls, yes, intentionally. yes the plasma near the surface will cool back to gas. because of heat conduction, forming a protective layer.
The plain truth is that we will never see a fusion power plant that actually works for at least another two or three generations. In other words, we are all paying for something that we will never see and it is very possible that future generations will be the same.
Well I just wish solar cells were more like 90% efficient! As for fusion..hmmm..I wonder if they consider the natural resonant frequencies of the elements in all this. They tune a beat frequency between the reactor & the element used,..then resonate the protons & electrons in highly stimulated levels.
one day humans could hold a fusion generator in the palm of their hand, first we have to get through the bulky clunky figure-it-out stage. it's worth ANY expense.
Great to see that Earth still has a few intelligent people doing something useful with their talents. We live in a world where equally intelligent people are working on another social media app or how to make ads less insidious. Human potential is mostly wasted due to our capitalist programming from birth.
So this crucible is constructed where inside the temperatures are far greater than that at the centre of the sun!.... There are three problems with that dream.... 1....Containment in the crucible. 2....Transferring the heat from the inside the crucible to the outside. 3....Getting more energy out than you put in to create the plasma or whatever it turns out to be, inside the crucible. The Sun is the crucible from which all life has been created and it has lasted billions of years. To think that man can create another crucible here on Earth is but a dream, in my opinion. Yet it seems our only hope, as the World's population rises exponentially. The wise and older generations may realise this and think that they will be gone long before the effect of over population and climate change hits them, It will be down to the new generations in a new world where demand exceeds supply.
That was a PROPHETIC misspeak indeed! I had noticed it too and went into the comments to look if someone else had, before me. And yes, by 20025 we will definitely have built nuclear fusion reactors. Not before that.
The magnets force the plasma into a donut shape - away from the sides of the walls. It's still much to hot, so they use liquid helium as coolant that circulates through the walls. The reaction still breaks down the interior surfaces over time so they have to replace those at some point.
Wasn’t it Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin at Cambridge who determined the sun (and other stars) ‘burned’ hydrogen though her thesis was largely ignored and uncredited but subsequently incorporated into the ideas of illustrious male colleagues
We know that fusion works. They need to scale down what they are doing. Try to be more modest and make them smaller and not just for production of electricity but just to heat water for heating.
Why is so much time and money committed to reaearching fusion when it could be mich more profitably invested in supercritical geothermal, with a similar but more affordable result in terms of reliable electricity production?
I was really excited about this project untill i realized there not harnessing the fusion power at all. There just spinning another induction motor. Man. What a disappointment. Hopefully they will figure out that part sometime soon. Figures crossed. In the immortal words of Jean Luke... "Make it so!"
I am the pie in the sky, laughing at you , can you see the reason why ? I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind. Apologies to Alan Parsons
waiting for z pinch 10:31 paradigm shift; pulsed power just needs off take of explosions very difficult but not outside the realms of practical possibility albeit noisy rumbly avalanche landslide tectonic prone a realistic safer approach would start with appraisal of the vast mineral resources that don't fuse or fissure that said those will never augment time in the way humanity will one day need to survive on the universe's timescales very worrying 36:14 the material requirement what consequences for human biology and so on
Imagine a piece from inside the sun contained inside a crucible here on Earth. Impossible or not? Then imagine that piece of the sun heated up by energy from the electicity grid and expecting more energy to be gained from it. Impossible or not? Would the crucible survive inside the sun? Would the crucible survive here on Earth? I fear not.
This is to complicated and expensive to be commercially viable unfortunately I believe it will be one of humanities most expensive science experiments they have to find a different method.
That feeling you get when you hear the narrator's voice and know everything will be fine in the end..... more please 😊
Humanity could really use a win like this. I hope we make a breakthrough that will change the world for the better.
Yes indeed !! But whom is paying for all this ????
Humanity needs this win to edge others in wars…
Captain Picard with a story about fusion, let's goo!
I believe you also mean PROFESSOR X!? Talented, and ever cool man!!!
Thank you so much for this wonderful, educational documentary about such an important project!
It's crazy to think such advances in physics science and engineering to boil water to turn a turbine. Basically the world's most advanced and expensive coolest steam engine 😅
that always bothered me like ok can't we just try our luck on also researching direct energy conversion
Make it so! 😅
@@JE-mj8yz I will one definitely one day😅
The problem is always the same even if you have a infinite source of energy Will be suppress because our capitalism system is based on oil will be a long walk 😌
This is more than just engineering. People have been working all their lives so humanity can exist on earth even after these hardworking people might not even be here to witness it. 👏
Fusion Power THE ENERGY OF THE FUTURE - I could not agree more, I really hope we get to it soon :)
Awesome documentary, keep it up :)
Our generation appreciates the mind boggling hardworking people and scientists who contribute to such projects for the comfort of the next generations ❤❤❤
It’s a bit more than “comfort” it’s lord be like survival
Patrick Stewart narrating this ❤
you mean captain Picard
I thought it was Ian Mckellen
@@renegroulx7029definitely Professor X
You can AI it . But this is a bit old..
“Jean-Luc” was my first thought.
The planet will be fine, won't even miss us when we're gone 😅
👍
Mr Fusion coming soon 😁
Tokamak will prove to be a dead end, but the Stellarator is promising, as is the Focus Fusion project at LPP under Eric Lerner.
As much as I respect the efforts and incredible knowledge involved in creating this behemoth machine...All I see can really see is an epic catastrophe plot for the most devastating disaster movie ever made! Let's hope that the elusive simple solution to our endless energy needs is found before we blow the whole planet up!
Fusion is the energy of the future and always will be😊
Always 30 years down the road.
Public does not know science and engineering. The eat this stuff up.
Fusion is the main energy source at my home. I like millions of others use solar panels and powerwalls for all my electric needs including charging my Model Y.
One of many sources of energy actually
25:42 i feel like the cup speaks to the job
Regardless of which fusion scheme proves eventually to be viable, Thorium fission in a molten salt reactor will be commercially available and cheaper than fusion energy, and the fuel is already molten, so there is no need to worry about a meltdown.
Would be very cool to see it implemented. I remember back in College talking about two different styles of fusion reactors, one I recall as the Tokamak, it would be great if we could get them to propel interstellar craft. But what about Zero point energy? That is now proven as a thing. Along with quark fusion.
If the physics works then the engineering challenges will eventually be overcome. Trust me, I'm an Engineer!
Even if you are right, what about the economics? In the decades when I was involved on the edge of fusion research, the mantra was that the capital cost of a fusion reactor would be a favour of six more than a fission reactor.
How is that reusable rocket coming along? You are a vaporware salesman.
The physics of landing humans on Mars works out just fine, but so far nobody put up the money. Not everything that can theoretically be done is worth the trouble.
@@jamesrindley6215 Humans won't make the trip without spin gravity and shielding equivalent to 1 meter of water. Also, a crew of 5+ will most likely be needed.
Did anyone know about isbutain in a clear pipe as long as it's not in contact with oxygen it can traverse the pipeline in a plasma bubble?imagine an endless loop and twisted to mobius looping a ball pushing it around the flow sparking in spaced areas they are so much hotter in a way
a very wonderful experience
Just think, this is the beginning. Once we master the technology we can work with materials that aren't the easiest but will provide an even higher energy return.
Great documentary.
Fission already doesn't make greenhouse gasses. Fusion reactors that achieve not just ignition, but Net Energy Gain are apprimately 25 years away and always will be. It's called the breakthrough horizon.
For me it looks like, fusion reactors are always 20 years away.
this might be the most efficient in terms of fuel but how about in terms of rare earths, nobel metals and such? how many thorium plants could be built for the same resources? thorium has to get used up anyway so as to make rare earth production cheaper.
A real good example of ROI.
Nuclear Power is the way to go
Yep Nuclear would still be Cheaper and is better understood.
After we solve the Plasma reactor and all the cost of development, Do you think we could get to work on the homeless people and solving and also other earths issues.
It is believed that Nikola Tesla created a wireless energy transmission system, but it was never commercialized due to concerns about its potential impact on the electrical industry.
Yes, TESLA'S discoveries, 100 years ago, have been hidden from the world.
They would have greatly benefited mankind, providing limitless cheap energy anywhere.
Can't wait until 2039 :) Hope they will manage ITER. Great Documentary :)
AI & Quantum application I would like to see: Global, deep, forensic investigation of financial institutions and off shore finances.
Did you try ceramics instead of carbon? They can be doped to change resistance or transmission. 😮
Professor X 🤟🏼
Thanks for the upload. What a brilliant documentary.
I will help with creating a new self ignition phase once accomplished I will open source the information
How old is this video again. Been some years on the memory. Know we had drain somewhere.
What about Sparky and the Vacuum Triode?
All this technology and we're still basically using steam power!
The model still seemes to be as it is today, ie a large generating plant and long cables to connect to towns.
What about much smaller, local systems, without the need for long transmission lines?
The Tocamak will never work 4 commercial electricity! The 1's who designed & built this thing are the best Phd. scientists the world has 2 offer working on this thing! This is why was built in the vicinity of CERN! All the talent is already there! The Laer Fussion Reactor is the way 2 go! Although this isn't a Nuclear Reactor, Radiation is still present!
How did you get Avery Bullock to narrate??👏🏻
Good
How they got Patrick Stewart to narrate is beyond next level
He’s too old to appear on camera. What better way to spend one’s retirement than doing v.o. work?
They didn’t. It’s Jean Luc Picard 😉
About as feasible as Dilithium crystals or harnessing a singularity.
old documentary , new documentation shows they have solved fusion
Brilliant video...😊
Energy performance
Thumbnail reminded me on Oppenheimers trinity test ngl
The ITER tokamak is not expected to be finished in 2025. The project's initial start-up has been delayed by nine years, from 2025 to 2034. The plan is now to skip the initial phase and begin research as soon as possible using a more complete machine. The tokamak will then undergo research for over two years before reaching full plasma current operation in 2036. After that, the reactor will shut down for further assembly and is expected to begin D-T operation in 2039.
thanks
Wild statement to say that the sun is terribly inefficient 😂
I'm sure the Sun is losing sleep over this.
If u consider how much is wasted? Yeah it is.🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🌍🌍
Are you familiar with this thing called MATHEMATICS? I don't think it's a wild statement to take the total amount of energy contained in a body and work through the binding and potential energies of the nucleons (there are these things called computers that help with the aforementioned -voodoo- mathematics). Then you take the amount of energy released by fusing elements together (more math, more computers) and compare that to an arbitrary value (100%? 90%? 20%? what's "terribly inefficient")
Then, using this tool we have called cognition, we arrive at a conclusion: either the reaction is inefficient or it's not.
What's wild about this?
I should think, having studied chemistry, astronomy and physics at an undergraduate level, that it would be a wild statement to say the sun sun is made of really cold applesauce.
so....I guess, qualify your remark? Unless you're happy to just broadcast both your incredulity and your obliviousness, then hey, I won't kink shame
It’s like the gasoline engine, it burns energy dense gas but only about 25% of the energy gets to the wheels to propel the vehicle.
Sick music.
We're going to build all of this just so we can boil some water?
Very dangereus experiment.
Research is always good but cost and safety is the finial factor. Imagine where we would be if as much had been invested in renewable energy research the last 30 years. Then for base power use Thorium-based nuclear power. Sadly just like renewable power generation the Chinese are starting to dominate just as they are with Thorium as a nuclear power source.
Tokamac should be the name of the first cannabis themed burger joint
It’s not the “ binding” energy it’s the difference in atomic mass between 2 hydrogens and one helium
so much this wonderful
Will be done by 20025. ?
2:51 You're right next to ~10Mw White Dwarf Micro reactor...
Too close for it to be working.
UAU!!
Just so fantastically complex and massive!! And is this even a commercial size reactor?! What happens if one of those coils fails, or the plasma escapes confinement and destroys some or all of the interior walls?! Stripping the reactor down for repairs, if that's even possible, would take months or years and cost an incredible amount. Is there any prediction of service life? I'm not convinced the iter reactor is a viable solution. The collapsing bubble concept is interesting but is it scalable? And could it operate at a commercialy viable output for 25 years without needing frequent overhauls? These guys are obviously extremely intellectual but are they being swept along by the excitement of unknown technology? I think fusion or some as yet undescovered technology will eventually provide the energy needs of humanity but it's a while away. Personally I think wave power is being overlooked, it has been proven to be capable of providing enough energy for the whole world, and is infinite and constant in human terms. Day and night without fluctuation. The engineering is challenging but nowhere near the level of fusion toroid reactors, or as expensive.
The problem with wave energy is one of environmental issues. To generate the amount of energy needed will involve a substantial intrusion into the living space of aquatic life.
Am I tripping balls or is the narrator the actor from Star Trek, Jean-Luke Picard?
Yes, he sounds like Patrick Steward. AFAIK he does do voice overs.
Haha, will ITER ever be finished. It currently does mot sound like it. I guess iter will just be another science experiment.
There is currently more chance to get energy positive fusion with a Stellarator, not with a Tokamak. Let's see which if the current Fusion startups will succeed first, but it will not be ITER, unfortunately.
38:46 yes, a tokamak reactor might work at 20025 😂😂😂
@@helmutzollner5496 all video's that are fake, have these things in it.
just spin the plasma, it will squeeze along the walls, yes, intentionally. yes the plasma near the surface will cool back to gas. because of heat conduction, forming a protective layer.
So, they think they can make perpetual motion machine?
48:37 my boy is under pressure
The plain truth is that we will never see a fusion power plant that actually works for at least another two or three generations.
In other words, we are all paying for something that we will never see and it is very possible that future generations will be the same.
That's how science works 😂
Is it just me, or does he sound like Tyson Fury? 0:21
Hate to break it to the guy at 48:25 but he's been sold a dream that's not possible and is arguably worse for the environment.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE 'ABOUT A DECADE' AWAY! 🤔😉
Well I just wish solar cells were more like 90% efficient! As for fusion..hmmm..I wonder if they consider the natural resonant frequencies of the elements in all this. They tune a beat frequency between the reactor & the element used,..then resonate the protons & electrons in highly stimulated levels.
one day humans could hold a fusion generator in the palm of their hand, first we have to get through the bulky clunky figure-it-out stage. it's worth ANY expense.
Great to see that Earth still has a few intelligent people doing something useful with their talents.
We live in a world where equally intelligent people are working on another social media app or how to make ads less insidious.
Human potential is mostly wasted due to our capitalist programming from birth.
I hope it works
Just get the tritium from the tokyo plant that keeps spilling it out
The pistol shrimp? That’s the answer? A shrimp? God help us
So this crucible is constructed where inside the temperatures are far greater than that at the centre of the sun!....
There are three problems with that dream....
1....Containment in the crucible.
2....Transferring the heat from the inside the crucible to the outside.
3....Getting more energy out than you put in to create the plasma or whatever it turns out to be, inside the crucible.
The Sun is the crucible from which all life has been created and it has lasted billions of years.
To think that man can create another crucible here on Earth is but a dream, in my opinion.
Yet it seems our only hope, as the World's population rises exponentially.
The wise and older generations may realise this and think that they will be gone long before the effect of over population and climate change hits them,
It will be down to the new generations in a new world where demand exceeds supply.
38:42 by 20025..?
That was a PROPHETIC misspeak indeed! I had noticed it too and went into the comments to look if someone else had, before me. And yes, by 20025 we will definitely have built nuclear fusion reactors. Not before that.
If it's that hot how do u keep the machine from melting
The magnets force the plasma into a donut shape - away from the sides of the walls. It's still much to hot, so they use liquid helium as coolant that circulates through the walls. The reaction still breaks down the interior surfaces over time so they have to replace those at some point.
Uuuu tretium what is that and where can i invest
Reminds me of the tower of babel in the bible.
Wasn’t it Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin at Cambridge who determined the sun (and other stars) ‘burned’ hydrogen though her thesis was largely ignored and uncredited but subsequently incorporated into the ideas of illustrious male colleagues
We know that fusion works. They need to scale down what they are doing. Try to be more modest and make them smaller and not just for production of electricity but just to heat water for heating.
0:28 The Venus Project Jaques Fresco and Goodwill towards men...
Why is so much time and money committed to reaearching fusion when it could be mich more profitably invested in supercritical geothermal, with a similar but more affordable result in terms of reliable electricity production?
Nuclear fusion so won't there be nuclear waste?
I wonder why my electric bill has doubled in the last year or 2, even if they get this working it won't brill our bill down!
22:28 The lowest temperature in the universe is in the boomerang nebula? We've achieved colder than that in scientific experiments on Earth.
I was really excited about this project untill i realized there not harnessing the fusion power at all. There just spinning another induction motor. Man. What a disappointment. Hopefully they will figure out that part sometime soon. Figures crossed. In the immortal words of Jean Luke... "Make it so!"
Interesting, all we do with the strongest force we know is driving a steam turbine 🤔
I am the pie in the sky, laughing at you , can you see the reason why ? I am the maker of rules, Dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind. Apologies to Alan Parsons
Why not mirco tokamek fusion reactor?
A multi event pumpkin tokemeks reactor...
They could have used Iver and mectin to continue unaffected. These super geniuses did not know this ?
waiting for z pinch 10:31 paradigm shift; pulsed power just needs off take of explosions very difficult but not outside the realms of practical possibility albeit noisy rumbly avalanche landslide tectonic prone a realistic safer approach would start with appraisal of the vast mineral resources that don't fuse or fissure that said those will never augment time in the way humanity will one day need to survive on the universe's timescales very worrying 36:14 the material requirement what consequences for human biology and so on
Imagine a piece from inside the sun contained inside a crucible here on Earth.
Impossible or not?
Then imagine that piece of the sun heated up by energy from the electicity grid and expecting more energy to be gained from it.
Impossible or not?
Would the crucible survive inside the sun?
Would the crucible survive here on Earth?
I fear not.
Pet peeve. All this incredible technology yet the narrator uses the word myriad incorrectly.
Amazing. THX1138 come to life
What is the release date of this documentary?
This is to complicated and expensive to be commercially viable unfortunately I believe it will be one of humanities most expensive science experiments they have to find a different method.
And yes,the $ factor.
Who’s listening to um ?
“ this time next year Rodney “
Long delays now looking at 2034 to crank up
Project has cost overruns in the Billions