Why you should Craft and Gather in FFXIV. Even if you hate it

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 413

  • @gynedroid9356
    @gynedroid9356 Рік тому +58

    The goldsmith quest 50-60 is probably my favorite crafting quest line. I won't spoil it, but it's such a sweet, adorable story you get to help create. It's so wholesome. Sometimes, we deserve that

    • @zenivinez
      @zenivinez 24 дні тому

      that damn music box I didn't tear up I just had some onion in my eye from leveling culinarian.

  • @trent7012
    @trent7012 Рік тому +218

    My main and really only issue with crafters and gatherers is that the inventory system is so bad and slow that I can’t imagine adding even more items to it to manage. If they fixed the inventory system and I didn’t need to spend extra money for more bank slots then I would spend much more time diving into the crafting system.

    • @trignite
      @trignite Рік тому +50

      This. The inventory system is really bad, and there are so many items you will aquire in your bags that aren't obvious what they are used for or how important/expensive they are. They really need to stop adding as many materials, maybe reduce/combine some. And make a bag specifically for materials.

    • @miqotesoulia8620
      @miqotesoulia8620 Рік тому +12

      @@trignite maybe something in the future with what they did to FSH baits. But for now I feel like SE knows its a good way to make ppl pay for more retainers as scummy as it might be, break out of HOARDing needless/cheap items.

    • @ponokanaka
      @ponokanaka Рік тому +18

      FF has the worst inventory system I’ve seen. I used to love Swtor’s legacy bank, and using alts for storage

    • @garbagebandit5934
      @garbagebandit5934 Рік тому +4

      It's only really bad during the leveling process. By the time they're maxed, you have a decent idea of what's worth keeping and what isn't. (and the number of things worth keeping goes down significantly if you have gatherers; no point holding onto something if you can just go out and get it)

    • @tenalpoen
      @tenalpoen Рік тому +11

      Materials need to have their own inventory that works like the old FF games where you can have 99 of everything in the game, change my mind.

  • @Michael-jx9bh
    @Michael-jx9bh Рік тому +36

    My favorite crafting story is weaver 1-50. It has romance, comedy, life advice, and glams for the rest of your game to 90.
    Also my advice for all kinds of crafters and gatherers: *keep you gear up-to-date!* Otherwise with the increasing power requirements it will be a slog of truly epic proportions - so, if any piece of your gear lags behind by more than 10 levels craft something that's current. That's how you can enjoy crafting & gathering.

    • @hopelessly.lavenderly
      @hopelessly.lavenderly Рік тому +3

      yes! esp once you hit level 50, when my first crafting class hit that it felt so overwhelming and like I couldn't craft anything at all for no reason, but I just had to buy new gear

  • @edgarlarios4718
    @edgarlarios4718 Рік тому +92

    I did all crafters and gatherer's to max just for the stories. The Omicron story feels like a perfect epilogue to 6.0.

    • @Xaphiero
      @Xaphiero Рік тому +1

      Just hope the crafting stories are better than msq

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction Рік тому +34

    Been playing for a couple months. I started out as a weaponsmith, then found I needed wood, so I became a carpenter too. Then it seemed getting the metal for weapons was really arduous, so I became a goldsmith. But to make jewelry I needed gems. So I became a miner. Levelling goldsmith with mining was going great and I became a level 50 miner. But then to become a level 50 goldsmith I needed some black oyster pearl from fishing. I then realized those useless feathers I was discarding I would actually need for fishing lures.
    I haven't done any land or hand jobs since.

    • @grilovan
      @grilovan Рік тому +7

      yea if you want to do crafters you do all of them and level them at the same time (up to your expansions lvl story so you dont burn out). that or you spend a lot of money buying stuff from market... also dont let me mention how fast you'll get undergeared and when you have to craft something it would be impossible, so another thing to throw money if you dont have all crafters.

  • @0Fyrebrand0
    @0Fyrebrand0 Рік тому +52

    The Firmament, Ishgard Restoration, and Charlemend's custom delivery questline are just beautiful. Would really be a shame to miss out on all that after Heavensward.

  • @onyx.avenger
    @onyx.avenger Рік тому +97

    For stories: I liked ARM 1-50 and WVR 1-50 a ton. For you Ishikawa stans out there, she also wrote ALC 1-50 and it shows by the themes. (There's also a cute story flag if you finish BSM 50-60 job quests before the PLD 60-70 job quests.) I also do recommend the Crystarium (ShB) and Studium (EW) quests if you like the game's story, as both of those tie into the main expansion story VERY well. (I actually found the CUL/ALC Studium quest to be super hilaroius/compelling, if you're familiar with how terrible Archon Loaf is.)

    • @dosbilliam
      @dosbilliam Рік тому +1

      I'm still working on finishing out the level 50 WVR crafts...Dress Material's such a pain to get/buy. 😩

    • @cutecats532
      @cutecats532 Рік тому

      Omg yay I'm doing all my level 60 queste before I move on to Stormblood so I'll have the Paladin easter egg. 😃

    • @joaoteixeira8349
      @joaoteixeira8349 Рік тому

      @@dosbilliam wvr class quests are realy good and also being some insight to some msq characters

    • @Dustlite
      @Dustlite Рік тому +2

      Goldsmith 50 quest was really beautiful

    • @Slythistle
      @Slythistle Рік тому

      Do you mind telling me about the BSM interaction with PLD? I did not do it before hand because I got into crafting very late.

  • @NoU-wc5ny
    @NoU-wc5ny Рік тому +112

    The Omicron tribe quests alone are worth it to level a gatherer in my opinion!

    • @JustDeku
      @JustDeku Рік тому +14

      Can confirm, those quests are beautiful and were the sole motivation for leveling my botanist
      Also jellyfish mount

    • @blackh9604
      @blackh9604 Рік тому +5

      I am strongly considering leveling my fisher to max (currently like 20 lmao) because I wanna see that questline

    • @JustDeku
      @JustDeku Рік тому +2

      @@blackh9604 go for it! I went with botanist because it felt the easiest of the 3, but I was able to level Botanist in like a week or less. My fisher is also around 20 lol

    • @Guusagi
      @Guusagi Рік тому +1

      that is totally my reason for wanting to pick up on one of those classes! tho im intimidated cus I'm only level 7 on all of them cus I never got too into it .. I definitely will now!!

    • @NoU-wc5ny
      @NoU-wc5ny Рік тому +1

      @@Guusagi take advantage of gathering leves!!! they will level you up surprisingly quickly if you're just focusing on 1 gathering class for the questline!

  • @brianbogholtz9485
    @brianbogholtz9485 Рік тому +32

    When doing the weekly Custom Deliveries - ONLY do the ones with a bonus if you have them available. The bonuses give insane exp/tomes at all levels ^.^

    • @SurrealLeaf
      @SurrealLeaf Рік тому +7

      Note: Bonuses get unlocked AFTER you have done the "story"-line. Before that you get scrips and exp at flat rate (or scrips+purples at max level)

  • @Pandamancer224
    @Pandamancer224 Рік тому +6

    Being able to meld materia and repair without a vendor were my motivations, and I found that I enjoyed the full process of crafting. I just completed the skysteel tools, all in one go. I made a full list of materials and threw on an anime while I collected and assembled everything.

  • @puchbol7069
    @puchbol7069 Рік тому +53

    50-60 Goldsmith is one of the sweetest, most wholesome quest chains ever.

    • @cutecats532
      @cutecats532 Рік тому +4

      I loved the little guy in levels 1-50 and am yet to do that one. Looking forward to it now!

    • @Karloss00
      @Karloss00 Рік тому +1

      I totally skipped unfortunately. I did the first four down the list and they all had more or less the same questline so I just started skipping them.

    • @pforgottonsoul
      @pforgottonsoul Рік тому +1

      i skipped it, i had zero investment in the crafting storylines.

    • @TheDaxter11
      @TheDaxter11 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately I don't remember shit because the experience from 50 to 60 and the god awful quest missions themselves were so bad that my brain's just wiped my memory of it. Hell that Heavensward levelling experience and the annoying quests put me off levelling above 60 with crafting and I just gave up on it.

    • @AquaSkywalker
      @AquaSkywalker Рік тому

      I made an extra set of the music boxes for the house of mine and my boyfriend’s.

  • @DoppelgangerTH
    @DoppelgangerTH Рік тому +41

    Zepla, I hope you read this. There's also Large (LARGE) (L) ishgardian leves, that give a crapton exp. I levelled my FSH from 50 to 70 in 4 large deliveries and I bought the fish from MB for almost nothing (they were like 200gil each, needed like 6)
    It takes away 10 leve allowances per large leve,but its so worth it.

    • @Fiendir
      @Fiendir Рік тому +3

      Oh that's sick, I haven't even unlocked the Ishgard leaves yet. Thank you for the tip!

    • @hopelessly.lavenderly
      @hopelessly.lavenderly Рік тому +1

      great to know thank you!

  • @kitsunehanyou09
    @kitsunehanyou09 Рік тому +6

    I liked a lot of the crafter and gatherer quest lines, but some of the stand out faves of mine are the Culinarian and alchemist all the way from ARR to the facet and studium quests, the Stormblood Goldsmith questline and the Heavensward blacksmith quest where you help a young girl and her butler win the honor back for her house (she also kicks serious ass). This was an awesome way to showcase some of the neat, casual stuff you can do with the life skills for some sweet rewards

  • @karasutsuki1733
    @karasutsuki1733 Рік тому +9

    Had a blast reading all the describtions while gathering for my Pteranodon, can highly recommend checking them out when u go there levelling

  • @WannaComment2
    @WannaComment2 Рік тому +7

    If you are looking to level only one gatherer and one crafter I recommend Culinarian and Botanist. They are a fairly self-sufficient combination, when other crafters are very reliant on materials from other crafters. That way you can actually gather and craft useful things in the endgame if you feel like it, without breaking the bank on material cost.

  • @SirJordanLore
    @SirJordanLore Рік тому +10

    I slowly raised all 8 crafter jobs and the 3 gather jobs using the Grand Company Delivery method. All the way to 90 while doing other things.. THEN I got into crafting and gathering.

    • @althearafela3166
      @althearafela3166 Рік тому +2

      That's how I did it as well. It became part of my daily routine. Then I touched the job quests

  • @brianbogholtz9485
    @brianbogholtz9485 Рік тому +17

    I initially started as a Goldsmith thinking that would be the easiest way to get absurdly rich. Apparently that was only true for FFXI 🤣

  • @burtwonk
    @burtwonk Рік тому +8

    I appreciate how easy it can be to power level crafting, but I’m going to take my time and try to enjoy it. They put in a lot of effort for this content and it’s fun to get more world building!

  • @BrunoLopes-ou1gy
    @BrunoLopes-ou1gy Рік тому +10

    Craft and gathering was one of the reasons why I kept playing. They're so fun for me.

  • @vincentbeton
    @vincentbeton Рік тому +2

    One thing that was great for me when first leveling Ixali , starting at the End of 2.0, you get 1 Venture for most of their Quests, 2 if you do the Quota Quest. That greatly helped me out in the early days of leveling Retainers before you get reach the GC Rank to turn in Items for GCS. Once you unlock a few Ranks with the Ixali you can get all 12 Dailies just from them without too much effort most of the time, not to mention the massive Exp for your Crafter

  • @Vashts6583.
    @Vashts6583. Рік тому +1

    I started playing around when this video came out and just finished the main ARR quests a couple nights ago. The entire time, I've kept all of the DoL/DoH classes at or above my main BRD level, and I have enjoyed every single minute of it. ALL of the class quests, the absurd amount of GC experience, traveling and exploring all over the map... it's been a blast. Then again, I started as an omni-crafter since I only bought the game a week ago and wanted to make all my own HQ gear

  • @gradientforce761
    @gradientforce761 Рік тому +5

    Not seeing anyone mention the 60-70 CUL quests here. Its just a sweet story about how food can bring people together in spite of differences, makes me tear up just thinking about it

    • @notmousse
      @notmousse 2 місяці тому

      Has a similar feel to the Bartender anime (either one). Japan really does an amazing job with slice of life.

  • @Mangoekaki
    @Mangoekaki Рік тому +3

    I recently hit 90 on WVR because it was so fun and I genuinely enjoy the process. Once upon a time lil sprout me window shopped on the market board for glams thinking I wouldn't be able to have any of those things for a while...but now I can make them myself! Very satisfying 💕
    My knowledge and discoveries are now passed onto the rest of my leveling journey. Each craft is a fun puzzle to make the perfect HQ item. When I need a break from MSQ and need to turn my brain off for anything else, crafting and gathering are my go-to. I understand now why people love it so much.

  • @LordSephleon
    @LordSephleon Рік тому +2

    I've never been much of an MMO player, but I gave FF14 a genuine shot before and after Stormblood (two separate phases, trying out multiple characters until I settled on a Viera Conjurer/White Mage). I discovered that I really love the crafting system. I even taught a longtime player (an old friend of 20+ years) how to do the crafting because he didn't get it or the appeal for it (he had multiple high-level adventuring characters with oodles of money); he actually ended up enjoying it once he caught on. My Viera White Mage (who I really wanted to get to Red Mage because that's been my favorite Job since FF1) ended up becoming a higher level Weaver and Leatherworker than her primary adventuring job; gear was always as up-to-date as possible for all three jobs. She also had some Carpentry (mostly to keep my Conjurer/White Mage gear upgraded) and Culinary levels (because I discovered food items to be pretty useful, even for crafting).
    The only thing was that I sometimes had to go adventuring to restock certain materials, or at least get more money to buy said materials from the marketboard. I always tried to put up HQ products for sale at reasonable prices because I wanted to give other casual players a chance to pick these items up (not to mention make a little money for more materials).
    Although it's functionally the same, the Gatherer jobs are not as fun only because I have to remember where to go for specific materials, and I don't want to play with a guide open the whole time. But I did give Botany a legitimate shot. And a little Mining.
    I dunno if I'll return for a third play "phase" anytime soon, though.
    TL;DR Basically playing FF14 to simulate working multiple day jobs, occasionally moonlighting as a healer role.

  • @BowserPowers
    @BowserPowers Рік тому +2

    I was nervous to start crafting but once I started the firmament I actually had a lot of fun. I used the firmament to power level all the crafters to 70 and my gatherers to 90. I used the job quests and daily GC turn ins to level from 70-90. While doing the GC turn ins make an extra for the market and you'll make good money in the process too! My fav rewards are definitely the Ehll Tou, Ufiti, and Hybodus mounts. The "Dragon's Best Friend" title and of course Major General!!

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic Рік тому +28

    The most important thing, DO YOUR CLASS QUESTS. They're annoying for a while and I did skip most of the dialogue, the later quests give a ton of exp, literally entire levels worth, and they lock incredibly important skills behind them.

    • @NabekenProG87
      @NabekenProG87 Рік тому

      And they unlock your class. I was helpfully reminded that I'm still Gladiator ... after having just finished ARR at lvl 55. Too focused on MSQ lol

    • @Cassapphic
      @Cassapphic Рік тому +5

      @@NabekenProG87 this is specifically about gatherers and crafters.

  • @Kristina.Larson
    @Kristina.Larson Рік тому +5

    I like to do Levequests, especially the large (10 allowances per set of turn-ins) levequests in Ishgard until you hit level 80. If you are under Road to 80, you can get up to 48 million exp for a set of turn-ins. That equates to several levels in one shot. Don't be afraid to ask an omnicrafter to help out, several of us do enjoy helping others (with a little help on the materials costs).

  • @FrankysABoysName
    @FrankysABoysName Рік тому +2

    Someone else mentioned Teamcraft - and I cannot agree more, excellent tool. I also want to add Universalis - esp if you're going to world hop for items.

  • @Norbert_Sattler
    @Norbert_Sattler Рік тому

    Another nice thing about the gathering jobs is the sneak skill. While that is active all monsters of your level plus 4 and below will ignore you unless you attack them.
    That's really nice in areas you haven't unlocked mount flying yet and just want to quickly get around without being bothered by monster attacks.

  • @toychristopher
    @toychristopher Рік тому +1

    There are so many cool stories in the crafter and gatherer quests

  • @Trust751
    @Trust751 Рік тому +1

    I really love the crafting and gathering in FFXIV. I was actually late to the Endwalker release (didn't finish the Shadowbringers patches before release) because I took a HUGE detour to level up all my Hand and Land disciplines 😅
    I'm now a max-level omni-crafter and even made my own full set of Rinascita gear for my main combat job 😎

  • @HyperFerret93
    @HyperFerret93 Рік тому +1

    In one of the side-stories, you learn that the Shadowbringers zones have giant invisible dinosaurs just vibing out there and every time I tell someone they think I'm joking.

  • @kittycatzuka
    @kittycatzuka Рік тому +2

    Usually when leveling crafters via my GC, I go to the market vendor NPCs if I can to get the gear, even though it won't be HQ. If the requested gear isn't available that way, _then_ I use the MB to get what I need.

  • @g1Chikumo
    @g1Chikumo Рік тому +1

    That into had me pulling my head out of the gutter.
    "Hand jobs .. and land jobs"
    Damn you Zepla! Lmao

  • @JaeOnasi
    @JaeOnasi Рік тому

    Thank you so much for this information. I'm new to the game (only started really around mid 2022), and your videos are so very helpful to me.

  • @shadow6743
    @shadow6743 Рік тому +9

    You should at least level crafting and gathering to be able to gather the materials and make your own dyes for your glamour and to sell them on the market board. Always a easy way to make some Gil.

    • @soldierorsomething
      @soldierorsomething Рік тому

      Pff pitiful!, i just do my dailies and buy 99 of the colour that i want for a cheap price of 33k gil!

  • @davegammonmedia
    @davegammonmedia Рік тому

    Great job on this video! I think the one tip that I would add is to do this as casually as possible. That XP bonus bar is going to help minimize all the effort needed to get to level cap. Culinarian was the most fun and enjoyable story for me.

  • @Ayyooitsdustaan
    @Ayyooitsdustaan 7 місяців тому

    your video about grand company and crafting was actually the reason why i boosted my crafting so quick. i'm a sprout and i started playing ff14 a month ago and i started crafting probably a few weeks ago and i never knew this much info about the grand companies, so thanks to you i went from manually grinding my goldsmith from 1-37 in weeks to 37-62 in 2 days 😅 so thank you!

  • @miqotesoulia8620
    @miqotesoulia8620 Рік тому +1

    love the variety of ways to craft. Always change it up! and yes echoing the comment section do that class quests, they give you more skills and a nice little story to embark on showcasing your creations.

  • @captainkronos
    @captainkronos Рік тому +1

    From pre-Shadowbringers, the Alchemy quests stand out as some of the best and most touching story lines. I recommend doing the level 1-50 Blacksmith and Miner quests first for some extra "Oh hey I know you" special dialog. The Crystarium and Studium quests as a whole are very good too, especially the meta ending quests after completing all five storylines.

  • @SonySteals
    @SonySteals 4 місяці тому +2

    Guys, don’t do anything you hate. So don’t listen to this. Just have fun and don’t pick up things you don’t enjoy.

  • @Blazingbeard
    @Blazingbeard Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the vid Zepla, inspires me to pick up some lazy options I have neglected after reaching 90.
    I loved the leveling quests. Hated the mind numbing firmament power crafting. But so fast leveling. The ShB and EW quest were a welcome distraction. Also Leves at 80+ work wonders to reach 90 fast. And I liked the buy bulk method, craft what you need and more. And then sell the rest for profit so leveling doesn't cost you anything.
    Gathering was alright to. Tho diadem was mind numbing as well. Didn't do that as much. Did like the collectable runs over all the zones.
    Fisher didn't touch yet, cause I hated the randomness when I picked it up. But didn't understand you could do ocean fish or just buy quest items at the MB. Gonna pick it up soon now.
    When I reached max lvl I got overwhelmed with high end crafting. I wanted to make all my own gear, but the tediousness and grind of all the HQ components quickly made me hate high end crafting. So now I just do lazy crafting, make money where I can and just buy the armor that I need from MB. I want to use 80 and lower crafts to make money, cause of that immensely powerfull HQ in one press skill: "Facepalm beard guy"
    Now I'm doing tribals for mounts. Didn't want to de weekly scrip runs, cause I had everything I wanted. But didn't get the glams. And forgot you can materia farm for money. So I think I'll pick up weekly scrips again.

  • @soulsurvivors4024
    @soulsurvivors4024 Рік тому +1

    The gathering sidequests for Botanist and Miner in sharlayan were adorable. Highly recommend.

  • @hanktank45
    @hanktank45 Рік тому +1

    I've been putting this off for so long. This is the push I need. Still hesitant but I'll give it a try

  • @Damiana_Swan
    @Damiana_Swan Рік тому +2

    Love crafting and gathering! To the point that I neglected the MSQ for a long time. (And leveling a gathering skill IS useful in case there's somewhere you really need to sneak into.)

  • @liquidefreet
    @liquidefreet Рік тому +6

    I first leveled my gatherers. Months later I finally decided to level crafters. I did all 8 of them at once taking advantage of the fact that crafting recipe needs mats from other crafter jobs and being able to gather everything myself with gatherer jobs. I only spent pennies for teleportation basically. I was also farming white scripsthrough collectable recipes while leveling so I could also get all the expert recipe crafting books. Last step was to craft my own endgame (pactmaker) gearset, that was also quite a ride as I had to first craft a lower set, overmeld that set just so I could reach stats tresholds. It was an excrutiating few weeks but once all of this was done I never felt so free in this game. I can now easily craft my own gear/food/potions/glam/furniture and that alone made it worth it. I'm no longer held hostage by marketboard gouging prices.

  • @jikuuzi6760
    @jikuuzi6760 Рік тому

    Fishing stories make you feel like a badass with some unbelievable catches and a bit of wholesomeness sprinkled in. enjoyed it so much gonna tackle it on my alt soon as well :)

  • @GypsyComet
    @GypsyComet Рік тому

    If you haven't hit max level in a War/Magic job yet, the Gatherers at high enough level can be a way to scope out entire new map zones ahead of your WoL quest lines. It doesn't work everywhere, but being able to scope out areas under Sneak can be very useful.

  • @roga5326
    @roga5326 Рік тому

    I started fetting back into Crafting starting a few days after realising how hard it is to get better gear nowadays. And since I no longer have time from having work and the Firmanent existing, I've chosen to pick it back up and sold some of my creations on the side.
    It's fun.

  • @evar.7093
    @evar.7093 Рік тому +2

    Honestly, crafting and gathering is a great thing to do when you're catching up on podcasts and various series.

    • @jen_esse
      @jen_esse Рік тому

      this is so true lol

  • @D0cSwiss
    @D0cSwiss Рік тому

    Diadem gathering also includes the vitally important lore regarding the Ishgardian's communal salt rock that they take turns licking

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex Рік тому

    I did the dwarf crafting quests just so I could get the Lali Hop, since that's one of my favorite dances. I don't really enjoy crafting/gathering that much, but sometimes it's really nice as a way to chill out in-game.

  • @Wolf-px9jx
    @Wolf-px9jx Рік тому

    the shark minion fishing legit took me 30 minutes to get,
    So worth your time going for.
    Just fish as fast as you can on your expedition and listen to the boat guys telling you what bait to use, I only did the first two fishing quests before attempting

  • @HimeshGohil-x6n
    @HimeshGohil-x6n 23 дні тому

    Thank you so much for this. I'm still a sprout, just finished SB and my son keeps saying I should craft and won't tell me why.
    I'm still on the fence and you've given me inspiration to investigate a little more

  • @davidbean6801
    @davidbean6801 Рік тому

    I level every job in both classes but hardly use them, but does come in handy when I do happen to need them

  • @TrueMeKazik
    @TrueMeKazik Рік тому

    @ZeplaHQ I miss your usefull content, even more than your comedy videos. Please make more! I'd love a video about each deep dungeon mechanics and rewards for example

  • @nirau
    @nirau Рік тому +1

    I've literally just made myself a goal to become omnicrafter today (I just want a house so bad and need gil) after leveling them all up to 20-30 and you make this video, love this :)

  • @gigabiteEXE
    @gigabiteEXE Рік тому +1

    If you're up for a challenge but never got into crafting for one reason or another, trying your hand at Expert crafts might get you hooked.
    Consistently making high rating Expert crafts can be more challenging than a lot of battle content, and the rewards/feeling of accomplishment is huge! Being apart of the small group of people that understood how to make the Water Otter parts on launch on my server (with minimal losses) netted me like 10m gold a day for about 30 minutes of investment. The crafting relics (especially the Skybuilder's set) look dope as well; my Skybuilder's alembic turns heads pretty frequently because of the dragon particle effects. Never having to talk to an NPC to repair your gear is also HIGHLY convenient.
    For gathering it's not as much of a challenge as much as it's a knowledge check. Once you understand how the different nodes work (and use a convenient resource like Garland Bell or Teamcraft), you kinda just get whatever you want whenever you want it without much thought. It's also ESPECIALLY handy that whatever you've added to your gathring log can be gathered by your retainers via ventures, largely sidestepping time based requirements, will little exception. Farming gathering materia on patch release is also MEGA lucrative and SUPER hands off once you understand it.
    Fishing is also dank as hell. Outside of Ocean Fishing, it's the jankiest, least apparent, time consuming piece of content in the game (if you want it to be), and I ADORE IT. It's not for everyone, but at least knowing how the lures work for weekly deliveries can save you TONS of time getting gathering scripts, which are much harder to get than crafter's scripts in my opinion. It's also one of the best way to farm aethersand (a crafting material that is ALWAYS useful) because the fish that can be broken down into aethersand aren't timegated like the nodes. It's also just a really good fishing minigame with a lot of depth, and the titles are HUGE flexes.
    Crafting and Gathering isn't additonal contnent, it's primetime, just like dungeons, raids, and trials. It's alright to have preferences, but if you completely skip the DoH and DoL classes, you're legtimately missing out on like 1/3rd of the game, including all of the easy to get rewards, and the great additional narratives.
    Alchemist is the best crafter-gatherer storyline by a MILE, by the way. It's not even close

  • @andream5462
    @andream5462 Рік тому

    I'm constantly wandering off to level crafting instead of the next msq quest, I just love the progression, and I'm looking forward to getting all crafters and gatherers to 90 (I'm not sure I'll do that any time soon for all Disciple of War/Magic jobs xD ) Gathering is easy, it just needs you to travel, and all the crafting jobs work the same with similar buttons. I like the crafting systems, even on console without any knowledge of what a macro is. Thanks for a grate video, this was fun!

  • @dvdraymond
    @dvdraymond Рік тому

    Along with the tribe quests for the crafter/gatherer tribes, maxing out rep for all the tribes in an expansion gives access to another few story quests to get to allied reputation. Those stories so far have been pretty fun as well. (I've done Allied in ARR and Heavensward, and am about to get Allied in Stormblood)

  • @FABRIZZLE
    @FABRIZZLE Рік тому +1

    Having a levelled retainer crafter or gatherer expands the potential of unique minions and stuff too! But you have to have one levelled for your retainer to be able to level it. :)
    Also, the alchemist questline is one of the most heartwrenching in the game :.(

  • @4isdaname
    @4isdaname Рік тому

    I'm saving this video to come back to later so I can see the tips for these classes again. There go info here so thank you for this, Zepla!! 💯

  • @crunkers_
    @crunkers_ Рік тому +1

    I'm debating getting back into this game just for the crafting.

  • @cometcomment1469
    @cometcomment1469 Рік тому +3

    GSM 1-50 quest series cracks me up every time.

  • @Wombel
    @Wombel Рік тому

    Cooking is Love, Cooking is Life.
    Besides that, fishing and the ocean endeaver content is actually fun. Its a bit much time gated for me but once you build it into your daily or whatever routine it is nice to casually do.

  • @DaburuLucky
    @DaburuLucky Рік тому +1

    From doing Island sanctuary and doing Ishgard, I can sum up all that sort of content into one phrase: "Quick, easy, and painless"
    Yeah, there are some nuisances, and if you're leveling them cause you're poor, you're gonna have to put in the time to vendor purchase materials then spend time crafting things, but it really is not as much of a hassle as I initially thought it'd be.

  • @kamendragoon8556
    @kamendragoon8556 Рік тому +1

    If I knew I could dress up the twins mom earlier I would have been crafting and gathering a long time ago.

  • @tonygunk1810
    @tonygunk1810 Рік тому +1

    This was a great video cause I did no gathering classes nor crafting anything will be doing some crafting when I return to FF14.

  • @Enderlinkpawnu
    @Enderlinkpawnu Рік тому

    As a Relic mongrel. Custom Deliveries are very nice to do as a weekly for crafter/gatherer scripts to get the crystal sand for a Heavensward Relic.

  • @beeosome713
    @beeosome713 Рік тому

    Thanks for ocerview.
    Just starting the game and as I love the feeling of providing home-made stuffs to my teammates (old wow fellas), I guess I will probably earn a few of those loots the "hard-way".

  • @dougnoel1
    @dougnoel1 Рік тому

    I actually leveled up my crafting and gathering classes to 50 before I got any of my combat classes past 20. However I did have my son help me by dropping a million gold on me. However since I can craft high quality equipment for all my characters, that's usually the best equipment for any level with melding. Sometimes the dungeon drops are better, but not often. I recommend blacksmithing and goldsmithing first because you can create most tools and weapons with the first, and the second is the one you'll use the most for boosting all your crafting stats. But tbh I recommend doing them all at once. As you level them up there's a lot of synergy. Also, get retainers as soon as you can and level one botanist and miner. If you can pay for it, an adventurer and fisher helps too. But those will keep you from having to farm as much. The crafting quests are all really cute. The goldsmith and weaver are the cutest. The leather and armored are the most schadenfreude satisfying.

  • @Ren99510
    @Ren99510 Рік тому

    I typically do leves until 30-40 due to the huge exp, and then transition in to ishgard, and then upon 60 start doing custom deliveries

  • @cattachi681
    @cattachi681 Рік тому

    “Could be the laziest” I’m sold lolol. I actually had no idea you could get xp for crafters like that

  • @billy65bob
    @billy65bob Рік тому +1

    The HW goldsmith quest is probably the most memorable one for me.
    I'm kind of a cap, and that whole affair with the music box... good lordy.

  • @bryangmainerich7587
    @bryangmainerich7587 Рік тому

    The cooking centered quests were fun for me. The story behind them especially!

  • @Lyra_VT
    @Lyra_VT Рік тому

    Love this video! Definitely helped me want to hop back into crafting and gathering again!

  • @sleeplessnights6414
    @sleeplessnights6414 Рік тому +1

    I hated myself and decided to level all of my gathers and crafters at the same time. It took me awhile to do that. I honestly did it the hard way because I didn't realize I could turn materials in to my Grand Company, do Levequests, or Ishgaurdian Restoration. I only started it because I really wanted the Fat Cat minion from Fisher retainer without paying the Fat Cat minion price. Now, I love fishing. It is the true end game extreme. I will say the Omicron Gather tribe end hits different after you go back and fight in the lvl 90 dungeon at the end of 6.0.

  • @mrmicycle
    @mrmicycle Рік тому

    The culinarian story quests have some wild cutscenes, highly suggest

  • @powerofk
    @powerofk Рік тому

    I love crafting and gathering in 14. Especially making my own gear! Seriously, though - I honestly recommend leveling crafters and gatherers as one goes along through the game. Makes it feel much less overwhelming and also keeps your non-main gear at or around the same level as your main job.

  • @darthfinality
    @darthfinality Рік тому

    I like how she says "polite" trainer while showing jewel crafting.

  • @ItsAMochi-
    @ItsAMochi- Рік тому +1

    The Alchemist stories are wild. Straight up true crime insanity

  • @FenixWindail
    @FenixWindail 5 місяців тому

    For years I have played quite a bit of mmo and for almost 19+ years I have played Lord of The Rings Online, and I can say that the Crafting system of FF14 is truly incredible and strangely "Fun" from what I have been able to experience,crafting is usually a part that gets lost as the expansions progress and unfortunately also mostly becomes outdated and useless, but in FF14, I feel that everything I craft is useful and rewarding not to mention the aesthetics of per se objects that even the piece of level 1 armor you wear is aesthetically very beautiful to look at, and above all "Jewels have aesthetics!" something that doesn't exist in many MMOs and jewels are just an icon in the equipment, but they can't be seen aesthetically on the characters, not to mention the infinite number of master recipes and outfits that you can craft, I find it incredible, I'm only at 50% -60 with crafters now and just with the basic recipes I can craft many beautiful things.

  • @SaigaTenshi
    @SaigaTenshi Рік тому

    I managed to crafts/gather during free trial. glad I max them (so far) which makes it exciting because you have to find those items since marketboard is not accessible during free trial

  • @midlanderhyur6035
    @midlanderhyur6035 Рік тому

    I want that lopporit dance emote from a hildibrand cutscene as a bloodsworn reward for the lopporit beast tribe quests

  • @abluelark
    @abluelark Рік тому

    I enjoyed the Mog tribe quests! Plus you get /mogdance!

  • @andreww479
    @andreww479 Рік тому

    Best reward I got from Crafting and Gathering was reaching Saint of the Firmament in Botany during the last Ishgard Restoration ranking season, still working towards it but my end goal is to eventually get the Pterodon mount. Especially right now where we are waiting for 6.3 and there isnt as much to do working through crafting and gathering can be something to fun, the stories are great and there are a lot of cool rewards for different things and other than Pterodon nothing in crafting and gathering is really that difficult to do.

  • @dannylongstrike5751
    @dannylongstrike5751 Рік тому

    Took me 2 weeks (was taking my time tbh) but I maxed out Miner by using the Ishgard Restoration, custom deliveries, collectibles, and levequest.

  • @TheOneWhoShallAsk
    @TheOneWhoShallAsk Рік тому

    My own characters race lore convinced me to get into it. Can't be a trained solo survivalist with a lv. 1 cooking skill. Or gathering skill. Or some sort of weaponry crafting.
    Suddenly, before I knew it, I became an omni crafter. The days have been a blur and I can barely remember getting here.

  • @estel-randir
    @estel-randir Рік тому

    I did all of the gatherers up to where I am in the game (I'm still in HW, so all my gatherers are mid 50s); it seems like once anything gets to 50, the complexity explodes (collectables? aetherial reduction? what the heck am I doing?!) but I have enjoyed it so far. Next, I need to start on the crafters. It's intimidating trying to do all of them at once, so I think I'm going to focus on CUL at first.
    I do kind of miss the AFK crafting from LotRO. That's how I got through Doctor Who the first time. Just had to alt-tab back into game to repair gear. :p

  • @sighing_tom
    @sighing_tom Рік тому

    I literally only want the Appointed Attire Coffer but its locked behind a Lvl 80 Disciples of the Land or Hand quest "A mother's love" then I can do "A Gift from House Leveilleur", once I get to 80 i'm not going to touch them unless I really want to craft something

  • @the_frankc
    @the_frankc Рік тому

    You also missed that level 90 Leve quests are great for making Gil. Having just Cooking, Mining, and Botany maxed out you can craft HQ Tsai tou Vounou and make about 1 million gil per month, not including all of the free fire and water crystals. It's literally free money

  • @donimmortal7692
    @donimmortal7692 Рік тому

    Let me add one more reason. Overworld interaction.
    As someone who usually go out there and get materials myself instead of using the market board. I help sprout leveling, I help people doing fate, I found some friends because we happened to go after the same rare fish.

  • @nivjinx
    @nivjinx Рік тому

    13:35 is all i need to get serious involved with fishing

  • @soldierorsomething
    @soldierorsomething Рік тому

    I got in to ff14, 1.5 years ago and i did some crafting on my 2nd day only to run out of GIL and inventory space!!, since back then we even had belts, but basically i got my armorer to lvl 14 and miner to lvl 11 and after that i just gave up and started doing the MSQ and pve & pvp content but in this video you mentioned some very good tips for fast xp so i think that im going to sort out my inventory and start crafting so that one day i might get the damn MOOGLE TRIBE DANCE!!!

  • @Bubozk
    @Bubozk Рік тому

    I've played MMOs for over twenty years and have loathed every single crafting system I've engaged with. XIV's was the first that provided multiple avenues to rank up, providing variety and allowed actual freedom of choice to satisfy how I wanted to rank at any given time. I had some hard assumptions that were absolutely shattered and now I'm an Omni - with absolutely no practical market knowledge to be a threat to MB gil chasers!
    Also, I'm here for Carrotsene Veggie Rockets! Keep it going Zep, been a long time lurker and it's amazing to see you back at your best after your unimaginable situation. 🥰🎉

  • @purplefreedom1631
    @purplefreedom1631 Рік тому +1

    I'm an omnicrafter, I've crafted ALL the custom deliveries!
    But seriously I've crafted so little it's terrifying how much favored GC deliveries and custom deliveries give for exp... if you're not actively leveling crafters just do those and you'll hit max before you know it.
    Also beast tribe quests give lots of exp if you're within their range.
    Edit: zepla covers all of this in the video, watch it

  • @lrdeldric
    @lrdeldric Рік тому

    Doing the gathering leves also exposes you to a very catchy song in the game, "when a tree falls"

  • @ChaoTek1
    @ChaoTek1 Рік тому

    Zepla, you motivate me! And with such a great community. Thank you! ^^

  • @Muropfel
    @Muropfel Рік тому

    Once I started fishing, there was no going back. Either sit back and relax at some nice spots or go full mental hunting down fish that can be reeled in only once per week for a whole 5 minutes. It's incredible how in depth it can be. Also, Catch & Release is not an ecological concern!

  • @sethharrison2284
    @sethharrison2284 Рік тому +4

    This! So many people who complain FFXIV doesn’t have enough to do, never even touch this part of the game. Even if you prefer battle content, just give it a try. It’s so worth it for the rewards and gil.