Why Dominicans deny that they are black? | "I am not black, I am Dominican"
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 січ 2025
- Historically, a product of the process of colonization and introduction of black slaves to the Spanish island, everyone assumes that Dominicans are racially composed of blacks, a majority mulattoes and whites. Some argue that Dominicans deny their African heritage or blackness, because many Dominicans do not self-identify as black, even though they have phenotypic characteristics typical of African or Negroid blacks. Do Dominicans really deny their blackness, but also their African heritage? What is the true racial identity of Dominicans? In this video you will find the answer.
One of the great characteristics of the Dominican nation is the miscegenation between black, white and indigenous population which makes Dominicans a nation of mixed race people in which the majority of Dominicans fall within the category of mulatto or biracial using a modern term. Dominicans by popular tradition are proud of their African, indigenous and European heritage and the diversity in cultural manifestations and religious syncretism is proof of this.
Something that everyone should understand, especially African American blacks, is that Dominicans do not use the one drop rule used by African Americans in the United States, mostly Dominicans use skin color, hair texture and eye color as a self-identification mechanism which It is a legacy of the Spanish caste system. In this video I am trying to analyze why many Dominicans do not identify themselves as black, but also the origin of the expression "I am not black, I am Dominican."
If race is a social construction, why do some people get upset when Dominicans use a different social construction of race than the one they use? Historically, Dominicans exist several racial groups such as blacks, mulattoes, biracials, whites. Some who believe they know the history of the Dominicans accuse him of denying the African heritage, but also the blackness that exists in a large majority of the population which is considered mulatto with different skin tones and hair textures. Do Dominicans have the right to identify themselves based on their social construction of race? My answer is yes.
Totally that’s what I just said why do people care what we think whether we want to say we are not black we are mulatto we are white why evolving thing so much
Either way, you people are very racist though.
Dominican is a nationality, not a race. Genetically speaking African genes dominate. Culturally they are Latino as Dominicans, but they would be ignorant to say they are not black. Anything can be viewed as a social construct, but your genes are not.
@@gpayne3728 Genetically speaking the average Dominican is more European. It's you who would be ignorant to call them black instead of Mulatto. Especially sense the United States itself has a long Mulatto history. Mulatto has been documented since the early 1600s in English and French colonies within current day United States. It wasn't until the 1924 racial integrity act aka one drop (which only lasted a measly 43 years) that changed this for a short period. The fact your weaponzing and still using this racist ideology makes you are clear RACIST. All you have to do is look at job or census forms. It clearly says "two or more races or other". I'm proud to be MULATTO/French creole/Eglise Reformee and so are many Louisiana Creoles and Cajun Creoles.
Dominicans are if African decsent. They are also mulattos. Be proud of your African race.
Thank you for this video , I just developed a great deal of respect for the Dominican Republic as far as identity goes. What a wonderful culture that self identifies.
Becuz we go by nationality not race... Also all Dominicans are mixed race to varying degrees, 75% are visibly and evenly mixed mulattos/triracials, another 20% are predominantly black with obvious lesser admixture, and another 5% are predominantly white with obvious lesser admixture, but at the end of the day we are a mulatto nation that chooses to identify with our nation over our racial makeup
the problem is you live in America,this not Afrocentrism it is society classification.Black genetics confirm black as it is dominate.If you are part black ,you are black.
👍
how convenient! you leave out the fact dont mind claiming your Spanish heritage which is a race. your people romanticized being colonized by European settlers who raped and pillaged the local community of Taino natives. oh and they bought their slaves with them from africa of course. bottom line is if we took everything African away from your culture you would have none. And if you’ve ever been to Spain everything there is from everywhere else in the world. The only thing Spanish is the architecture😂
@@krazyjnva2up2down55Oye, tú dijiste que los panameños son negros por un comrntario que vi. Pero los datos dicen que son mayoria mestizos. Explicand eso socio.
@@Erastoneus45 ¿Estás confundido con un comentario sobre la ciudad de Colón, que es mayoritariamente negro? La mayoría de los panameños son mestizos. Hay algunos barrios por los que son conocidos, como Río Abajo, en la ciudad PTY.
The funny thing is that the South African singer Tyla said that she self identified as mixed and not black. Guess what? The black American community lost their mind and went crazy calling her a traitor blah blah blah, meanwhile the south African community was fine with that and actually supported her claim.
I believe that the problem is the black American community. Race is not of Dominican concern, that's not a topic to debate, but for african americans that's everything.
Let me tell you something about Dominican society. The first colony of the Spanish Empire in the 15th century was what is today the Dominican Republic and the first time that Spain brought slaves was in 1503 (the black part of Dominican society does not come from Haiti) when Spain discovered the immensity of the American continent it practically abandoned the island of Hispaniola to its fate, leaving the Creoles, mulattoes and slaves on the island. There was a lot of poverty and the only way to get out of it was through trade between the different peoples of the island. Later there was a great deal of miscegenation among all of them. It is important to emphasize this because in the Spanish colony the one drop rule did not exist and interracial marriage was allowed. Dominicans have literally been marrying different ethnicities and races for more than 400 years, in the 20th century this was prohibited in the USA, in 1606 the devastations of Osorio happened and there was a demonstration against this measure and it was practically the first recorded protest by the creoles of the island who had already been mixing what was created for more than a century was the sentiment of protecting the land where you were born, in 1621 it was the first time that the Spanish crown used the term Dominican, practically referring to the Creole people of the island of Hispaniola, which was made up of the descendants of the Spaniards who stayed on the island, the few Tainos who survived and the blacks. The problem with African Americans is that they want to extrapolate the reality experienced in the English colonies, such as the One Drop Rule and the prohibition of marriage between races, to the entire world. They think that this was the reality everywhere. There was certainly slavery in Spain, but it was very different from the English and French colonies. In short, Dominican society is united by the culture and the land that saw it born, and that is what has created its identity as a society.
Thank you
@@rafaelaugustocaneloruiz6009 I would like to start off by saying we like to be called black American and not African American. Second I am a subgroup of black American called a Louisiana creole and we have a history of west Africa, France, native and Spanish ancestry
@@rafaelaugustocaneloruiz6009Thanks for sharing your story
From what I see when I was in DR is most of them are mulato or mixed race. Case closed
Depends what part you're in, you have a skewed view because of it.
Does the region matter??
Good man God bless
No no no 👎 this video is Incorrect.
Dominicans don't deny their blackness, they are very aware of their history. And they know that 1824 a new batch of black people from Tortola, US and British island, Saint skitt etc... came to Santo Domingo, these people are also aware of their history. Now the real Dominicans are all mixed race, tri-racial.
Facts
The answer is super simple, coffee is coffee, milk is milk, no one can deny it, but why do you want to classify coffee-milk in one damn side, Dominicans are a mixture of many race and we fill proud of it, we are neither milk nor coffee, Stop your attacks on us, live your life and let the Dominicans be what they consider themselves to be, STOP involving Dominicans in your complex historical racial conflicts onces and for all.
Only America had the 1 drop rule! There are Mulato Dominicans which is about half the population, then Black, Whites, Middle Eastern.
Black Dominicans dont deny being Black; Black want the Mulato Dominicans to say they are Black; Blacks and Mulattoes( Brown/ Pardo/ Creole) in the Caribbean, Africa, South Europe and Latin America are seperate identities !
Wrong stop it dominicaN are Afro mestizo. Afro European. Black white Taino. Mixed
@robluv4592 That's what I stated, they are Mixed-race, ie. Creole which is White, Native and black, otherwise Mestizo and Mulato mix and that's half the population, the other half are mainly Black!
Blacks dont want them to say they are as much as they want them to stop actin like their not , n stop denying it
@robluv4592 That's half the population and have a small percentage of Taino ancestry. The other half of the population are just Black with a tiny admixture, then other minorities.
Mulatto/ Mestizo which is Creole!
Just curious but why do Dominicans are quick to claim their Spanish blood and neglect all other? I've always been confused about this.
It’s a sign of pride!
They refuse to acknowledge that they have black blood. For them it's insulting and they call themselves Indian while the degree of indigenous blood is extremely minimum.
This is nicely researched and explained well .
I'm biracial and I always found it odd that people were offended with Dominicans saying they were Dominican .
To my knowledge, the DR is a largely mestizo and mulatto society. Only a smaller amount of the population is solely of African heritage.
Also, from what I see in Caribbean as well as South American societies, nationality is the distinguishing factor. Thus citing that one is Dominican or Cuban etc.
Finally you have to look at culture. DR is a strongly Spanish influenced society which is of course different from its neighbor Haiti which was culturally influenced by the French .
The big issue only comes in because in America what would be our mulatto and mestizo is just blk and Hispanic being said as a race. Ppl don’t like to admit but many blk Americans have at least 1 very mixed grandparent and dang near all have someone white/1 drop rule(13%+)/ was marked as mulatto before it was removed here, after slavery(during the gRAPE which is the only part that’s brought up). I was on a video before this where the comments kept saying Dominican is blk and like their European colonizers, but literally ignore many constantly procreate with considered mulatto ppl. In America it’s no mixed logic unless you have parent not already marked as blk(but that kid still goes under blk box), so that’s the issue
@@DoubleBeezy It doesnt seem to be an issue revolving around mixed race people who are Dominican but Domnicans in general . It seems to be a blanket view that all Dominicans are Black.
So interesting point but not valid.n
@@MultiSmartass1I was generalizing but I guess u not that smart. America don’t do generational mixed is all I was saying and go to the Afro Latino dna test videos and see how none of them were even 76%+ African.
@@DoubleBeezyWrong! Mullato is Mullato even in America. Black people don’t have a White parent.
Soy Dominicano, soy trirracial y no soy negro. Soy un metizo, Tengo un 55% europeo, 20% taino, 25% africano. Soy hispano y no tengo complejo racial.
Im Dominican y mis hijos tambien Vivo en Dominicana y apoyo a todos lis Dominicanos a no dejar que nadie les robe su identidad.
We do not care, we have enough black people in Africa. We do not need you. We are people from those who built Egypt. So stay where you are. I AM BLACK AND PROUD.
Let me tell you something about Dominican society. The first colony of the Spanish Empire in the 15th century was what is today the Dominican Republic and the first time that Spain brought slaves was in 1503 (the black part of Dominican society does not come from Haiti) when Spain discovered the immensity of the American continent it practically abandoned the island of Hispaniola to its fate, leaving the Creoles, mulattoes and slaves on the island. There was a lot of poverty and the only way to get out of it was through trade between the different peoples of the island. Later there was a great deal of miscegenation among all of them. It is important to emphasize this because in the Spanish colony the one drop rule did not exist and interracial marriage was allowed. Dominicans have literally been marrying different ethnicities and races for more than 400 years, in the 20th century this was prohibited in the USA, in 1606 the devastations of Osorio happened and there was a demonstration against this measure and it was practically the first recorded protest by the creoles of the island who had already been mixing what was created for more than a century was the sentiment of protecting the land where you were born, in 1621 it was the first time that the Spanish crown used the term Dominican, practically referring to the Creole people of the island of Hispaniola, which was made up of the descendants of the Spaniards who stayed on the island, the few Tainos who survived and the blacks. The problem with African Americans is that they want to extrapolate the reality experienced in the English colonies, such as the One Drop Rule and the prohibition of marriage between races, to the entire world. They think that this was the reality everywhere. There was certainly slavery in Spain, but it was very different from the English and French colonies. In short, Dominican society is united by the culture and the land that saw it born, and that is what has created its identity as a society.
Qué tiene que ver esa historia para que los dominicanos, con fenotipo indiscutiblemente afro no quieran que se les llame negros, pero si aceptan que se les asocie con España racialmente. No es cuestión de la regla de una gota, es que tienen miles y miles de gotas.
Es un complejo racial enorme
@Español1959 ok
This video is so incorrect Dominicans admit we are mix we do not say we are white or black we are MIXED
We not Black, we Dominican. Black to us means African American and we aint that. Some recent Dominicans dont even speak English so stop saying Black. Just stop. Regardless of our color, we are Hispanic. Like I commented on a different video, most of the enslaved Africans were sent to Cuba. They have more people with African ancestry than Dom. Rep. and Puerto Rico combined. Those Cubans would not be "Black" here in the US. They'd be Hispanic
Some Dominicans are Black
I’m black & white from America . Imagine I walked around sayin I’m American 😭😭😭 like what
@@JayR-io5uzyour brain has been colonized, my brother, you are American and there's nothing wrong with that.
Call yourself whatever you want to be called. The cops will really let you know who you are.
I’m a Mullata who has had good experiences with cops. I support them as well.
Preach
It’s sad that you only think of the cops
Very true
Yes, the cop stopped me and asked me if I was Dominican and with a wide smile said he knew it because I am mixed looking.
Brazilian seems to be more at peace with their blackness
Colombia also, at least in Palenque
And Puerto Rico
No Brazilian not black there Brazilian
I bet you haven't even travel to Brazil and already conclude they are at ''peace'' with their blackness. Of course if all you see is anti Dominican propaganda you will believe the BS we are anti black.
Those WHO are black, are black. But mostly people in brazil are Mixed
YOU guys should First read and inform yourself, before speak bullshit
One thing is, you're not Indian, neither are the native Americans, you can say your native Dominican, as the native's that occupied Dominican republic. Columbus called the indigenous Indians, they are not Indian, the guyanese and Trinidad that have Indians in those countries are Indian as their four fathers came from India, as India equals Indian, yall are stealing the real india Indian culture from the true Indians from India, there's a little bit of indo, india Indians in Jamaica to, those little bit of east Indians in Jamaica, you're robbing them of their true Indian culture by calling yourselves Indian, that is not right, your wrong. For me I don't consider yall black at all and don't care!
India 😅 changed their countries name officially 😂 apparently you don't know they don't like the term Indian.
This is like Taiwanese saying they are not Chinese
Sir we don’t deny that we are black
We are happy to say that we are black white and Indian not just black
well if the average arican american is 25% white they are not JUST black either
No, such thing is no Dominican that didn’t give you that name go to the Bible and show me. Where it Dominican I’m not ashamed of being black. I am proud. We fought for everybody to come to this country so I don’t know what y’all talking about. I don’t care if you don’t wanna be black I’m black black and love it and I’m black and I’m proud.
😅😅
Very interesting. Plain tosee that Dominicans are very proud to be multiracial, and I think that's great !
Everyone is not going to accept the color code.
Sabes quien da mucha lastima? Los que viven pendientes a lo que diga el dominicano 😂😂😂😂
Viva RD carajo 🇩🇴💪🏼🇩🇴💪🏼🇩🇴💪🏼🇩🇴💪🏼
As a Canadian I've observed that the Dominican Republic mixes Nationality with Ethnicity/phenotype. I think that is a reminant of the color class system leftover from thier colonial history. In Canada you would be hard pressed to find someone that identify's as black canadian or chinese canadian. You're just Canadian.
African American don't deny we are mixed too🤨 We know we are part European and Indian to a lesser extent👌 We just love our Blackness more since we are predominantly OF💯💯💯
Well said, great video
Very well explained, we are proud to have in our blood the mixture of who we are. We're African decent, yes we are. We're European decent, yes we are. We're Taino's decent yes we are, but we don't accept other race to label us as Black or anything else because we're not. We are Dominican and proud!
You my be Dominica sisters and brothers but you are black don't get it twisted
One drop rule was 1800s rules for human property. Not fee folks
This is a very loaded subject. Most Dominicans have more European DNA than African, yet we don't deny our African heritage. We are not "black" because we don't subscribe to the racial ideology of the US, and we also aren't "white" because that label didn't even exist when the Dominican Republic was settled . From the onset there was heavy mixing of the different populations on the island (Latins, natives, africans). We werent "colonized" , we were the colonizers. The reason you want to categorize us that way is because of your "one drop rule" which is non existent in Latin America. Those ideas of race were promoted by Northern european/German colonies of the north. Latin people (Italians, Spanish, portuguese) have always had color if you study the history of the Mediterranean. I support the empowerment of the African diaspora, I'm a big fan of Cheikh Anta Diop. I know we don't seem to fit neatly into your paradigm but ya'll need to ease up off us because that shit is getting corny already. God bless the Human race.
Dominican. are not blacK
That DNA test says all you are ...Dominicans is where you from Black is who you are period it ain't up for discussion 🙄🤔😂🤣
@@djgaffney1black is who they are?
So Dominicans and Haitian's didn't come of the same boat on the same island...yes yall Black all of us got mixed blood thanks to slavery even in America
@@djgaffney1 Haitians look mostly African, dominicans are more mixed then Haitians
1st people on earth are black deny all you want cousin😂🤣...everybody African
Respect has to go both ways. Dominicans have come to America to a culture which be respected as well. You have the right to identify how you want but what is Dominican? That’s a culture and an ethnicity. Not a race. If you gone to answer the race answer when someone ask you that in particular, Dominican is not a race. It black, white and/ or native. This video is not being fair to the true narrative.
Can’t hate on the Dominicans’ grind, fam. Everything’s up for the highest bidder. Haiti came fresh, flexin’ as a new, powerful, black-free republic - political and economic, ya get me? The Dominicans ditched their old colonial boss Spain and hopped on Haiti’s wave - everything was bless, even their blackness, innit. But when Haiti’s cash started spirallin’ down the plughole, and them welfare cheques dried up, the Dominicans jumped right back on Spain’s ting. Now they’re ridin’ the US wave, beggin’ to be the next Puerto Rico or summat. Suddenly, Haiti’s the enemy. Straight up opportunists, yeah? They’d sell out for a tenner, swear down! Even bite the hand that fed ‘em - Haiti. Real talk, 1804’s got deep meaning for the whole world, bruv, even for the Dominican Republic. Big up the Haitian revolution, forever standin’ tall!
Spanish Translation:
No se puede odiar el esfuerzo de los dominicanos, hermano. Todo está a la venta al mejor postor. Haití llegó fresco, presumiendo como una nueva y poderosa república negra libre, política y económicamente, ¿me entiendes? Los dominicanos dejaron atrás a su antiguo jefe colonial, España, y se subieron a la ola de Haití: todo estaba bien, incluso su negritud, ¿no? Pero cuando el dinero de Haití comenzó a irse por el desagüe y esos cheques de bienestar se secaron, los dominicanos volvieron corriendo a la movida de España. Ahora están montados en la ola de los EE. UU., rogando ser el próximo Puerto Rico o algo así. De repente, Haití es el enemigo. Son oportunistas de verdad, ¿sabes? Venderían su alma por un billete de diez, te lo juro. Incluso muerden la mano que les alimentó: Haití. Hablando en serio, 1804 tiene un significado profundo para todo el mundo, hermano, incluso para la República Dominicana. ¡Gloria a la revolución haitiana, siempre de pie!
I dont think we as AAs, Americans, should care
Good for you.i couldn't care any less what they identity as. I'm Nigerian, Hatian Creole and West Indian. 3 kinds of Black. I'm black enough for the ones who refuse. 😊😂😂😂😂
I am not black, I am dominivan" 😮😮😮
Dominicans are where you from black is what yall are take that DNA test then YES yall are black...period 🙄🤔😂🤣
Why are some people so obsessed with the color of skin??? i notice specially extremely leftist here in the USA what about "ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS" everyone start caring more for one another I know is a waste of time. But color of skin or race now that is a waste of time and this is coming from a Dominican.
People talk so much on race. More is spoken about a simple thing and make a mountain out of an ant hill. Race. Only one exists, Human. That's it. Treat people as you would treat yourself. Love who appeals to you. If you seen me you could not define my ethnicity. Love one another.
Shame on you. I A M BLACK AND PROUD.
Dominicans are triracial, and we are proud of it. Stop applying your political dialectics to ensue division.
historically any where the europeans go - its confusion.
We should acknowledge our European DNA as AAs? 🤦🏾♀️ It’s not something to be “proud” of. Our ancestors likely had no choice in the matter. You know slavery and colonialism existed right?
Is Dominican a race?
Are jews a race?
Dominican love DominicanS
It would be great that the same energy you are spending here talking about Dominican. You can also invest that energy talking about congo,sudan, Palestine and many more places that are living under oppression and are basically under a g3n0c1d3. Instead of working hard on how to divide people just because don't care about the color of their skin but their nationality use your time on spreading the truth about congo,sudan and Palestine. I know you need views but the world needs humans.
These people are deluded
Thank God!!!!!!!
Imagine that they are black....what a draw back for us blackz....
...
Sounds messy
We get it, y'all have a "strong" sense of Dominicaness. Okay. ...
What a shame if it’s even true if their saying this.
Mira, porque no son
DIOS, patria y libertad🇩🇴
Oh well, I guess Trujillo did his job. Oh and so you know 43% is more than 36%. Mixed and whites passing seems to be the ideal. That's why Sosa gown pink.
43% is still less than 50%.
Failed as for they are mostly triracial people that can pass of any race
Sosas Haitian, moved to the DR in his early teens.
Domlnican not black in usa spoil..
I'm not black I know I'm negra but dominican not African America
dominicaN are not black. On usa soil they always been free
Black and white are divisive words
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your an Israelite!
Domlnican are taino tainas
dominicans are black. they have african ancestors
You make no sense. They also have European ancestors, does that mean they are white?
Wrong there ancestors are tainA. AnacaonA
dominicaN 52% white 30% Africa 10% native Americans this guy numbers are his numbers
No
I'm cibaeña ... I'm lighter than many white Americans or European people.
Tri racial
God your little tiny island is so weird hahaha.
Video propoganda
INOBLAKMINICAN
🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🅿️