The Real Reason China Is Developing The Long March 9 Rocket!
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- The Real Reason China Is Developing The Long March 9 Rocket!
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The Chinese seem to build their rockets the same way they build their warships -- through incremental improvements and revised iterations over time, instead of throwing money into revolutionary fresh designs every time. And they maintain this pace quite relentlessly.
Such mental gymnastics to noticing they're developing slowly cause the CCP are broke from a decade+ of shitty choices.
Well, they do implement radical changes, whenever they successfully steal our plans.
They dont have to do much R&*D, they just steal it
It is a sound strategy for risk averse organizations . SpaceX blows up stuff until it works. They seem to have Falcon dialed in.
You totally get it😎
Hi the space race thanks for your updates on the new space race David 🚀🇬🇧❤️👍
Powerful technology leader ❤
I'm glad they're going with the reusable option! And with the wire catchment system more types of rockets can be caught and reused
NEXT STOP ==Mars Go China!! Greetings from Mexico!!!!
Thanks for this👍🚀
1:13 There is one Chinese rocket that isn't Long March, the Fengbao 1 used in the 70s.
i love the look of the fengbao, made it in ksp rss
No one cares CCP agent
are there any short marches?
44 tons to Mars ??? that's impressive
thats is PROPAGANDA only hehehe
@@nestorportuguez8964 Let the title remain America's. In fact, China has never boasted before its success. like a mission to mars, suddenly they launch a rocket and succeed.
everyone can "design" a rocket like that. Building one economically is entirely different
I will believe it once it happens, same goes for Spacex
@@georg1875 They already built some of the engines and fuselage.
Red Salute Comrade 🤝 for acquire the acme in space race, and metamorphosis the blue space into the Red Space
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great to see china being serious about space and making tremendous progress! looking forward to a properous future.
Yeah, sure, all of that is great and all, but with such government... I don't think that state is really stable.
@@ozymandiasultor9480
@@ozymandiasultor9480
Sadly, there are too many wumaos and cheerleading Chicom sycophants here who can't see that murderous nation for what it really is and does.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 more stable than fatty 80 years old kid in mom basement eating meds
@@ozymandiasultor9480 那你就应该跟你们的媒体一样，共同期待我们的崩溃吧，我们已经习惯了你们的这种声音😊不行你就天天祷告吧，也许上帝上厕所的时候听到你的许愿也不一定
Like your next video in the rushing my friend
Read the book Signocology on homeless panhandling and alcoholism, only in America
1:20 1st misinterpretation, The Long March Rockets were named after the title of one of Mao's poets. However, it is a tribute to the PLA's arduous struggle experience of the Long March and the heroic spirits that were born from it.
U don't fool any one CCP agent
@@robertmuller3145 nah no need, your kind are degenerating human PoS. So cents or 1450 what r ya?
you should do a video about ring wing and flat bed plains
At least they didn't name it Long Dong
And what a missed opportunity, Changdiao-9 sounds dope
Yeah that's a real lost opportunity on their part 😂😂
Biden would have named it Long Dick. It would be a symbol for America's strength.
This is sad
Luong Dong 😮
You said "leader of the republic of china"? No that's Taiwan, he is the leader of the people's republic of China. 😂
Glad to see this comment section supporting China's reunification! 😂
@Jon Sei Lim Well, he could be promoting the idea of two separate China's. After all, since the tentative end of the Chinese Civil War, the Americans have been trying to turn this idea into a reality. Back then, when the idea was first proposed, the leader/dictator of the Republic of China, which was an ally/vassal of the USA, rejected the proposal from his American "ally" because hey, what kind of "ally" proposes such a thing??? Plus, the USA itself is better suited for such a partition. World peace even depends on such a partition of the Eww Es A.
They the same country have same national anthem😂
@jarrod wilson Uh no we don't. The "National Anthem" of the "Republic of China" sounds like a feminine, model race, asian persuasion piece of shit, a true reflection of those "free" Chinese who, in the face of American domination, gave up human rights to embrace "human rights".
Who cares lol
Dude you're using ksp footage and your editing is good damm you guys really stepped up your game
The KSP footage at the end made me laugh
Interesting video! Thanks!🙂
Very intresting to get This update from china space efforts 🙂👍
Thank you.
I wonder if they'll eventually develop a 4-chamber version of the YF-130. Such a 4-chamber version would be the world's most powerful liquid rocket engine ever flown.
Wow, 1st ... I do appreciate your had work and the information that you provide.
You're third
Greetings from the BIG SKY.
AMAZING video man. SUPERB job with all the information, very informative and educational. I wasn't really aware of the Chinese abilities, and history with rocketry etc. That Long March 9 reminds me of the Kerbal X, lol... Ya GOTTA make a Kerbal Space Program reference here, sorry, lol. Saw Scott Manley's clip in there too. Great job with this video man. Super cool. Keep up the great work, subscribed for more...
I like this video its interestyng
Doing animations. I like it, guys.
1:44 - stalin
Space Rockits are just ICBMs with a really crappy launch window
The variations in design make me wonder if they don't even really know what applications they're developing for
Elon Musk says ah yes exactly.
These are legit rocket scientists, so yeah, they know what they are doing. Its very possible to fail like spaceX new rocket, but that's just how try and error works.
Little circle's my ass, your a CCP agent
Very smart
The sls... Well, it did fly, with small payload.
There no reason to choose sustainable way and not being wasteful. In future, things will be really heated up when more and more space projects comes their way.
China's space program so very underreported - looks like they've, er, found some starship designs.
In how many years are proyecting doing this fantastic achievement...?
“Being first is what it’s all about.”
- Dev Ayesa
I thought that was the "Hokey Pokey."
0:04 it says "real reason long March 9th(date)”
It's quite odd that computer translation between Chinese and English still sucks in 2023, even with powerful tools such as GPT-4.
another thing, please don't believe anything China Daily says. It's not a news site. Its purpose is to provide English reading practice material for Chinese high school students.
Over build the center section and eight SRB's and itll be the heavy lifter
China's doing two launches to space every week NASA is scared that China 🇨🇳 will land men on the moon for the first time in human history
Man has already landed on the moon dumb ass..lol
I've been doing a spontaneous deep dive on Intelsat 708, launched on a Long March 3b on Feb 15, 1996 on its maiden flight. What followed was most likely the deadliest rocket launch ever.
The chinese Communist party dont care about people at all only staying in power and getting more power.
*Nah that was Columbia (much more spectacular), China's rocket success rate higher than NASA and Russians with Zero failures on the Manned Missions unlike the western ones - like playing Russian Roulette with bunch of people's life ☠️*
Villages near the launch sites are always evacuated before a scheduled launch, plus the deadliest rocket launches were the Columbia and Challenger disasters with 7 deaths per launch
@@jonseilim4321
Why are you outright lying? And why doesn't the incompetent CCP place their launchpads in deserted regions or by the Pacific ocean? Quit making hilarious and pathetic apologies for them wumao.
@@jonseilim4321 except Columbia didn’t fly into and kill an entire village.
While the LM9 seems competitive with SLS and reuse is just an announcement, neither of those systems are capable of sustaining a lunar colony -- a fleet of SpaceX Starships /might/ be able to do it.
Space X Heavy is still vaporware.
The SLS and Long March 9 actually exist.
@@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179
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Funny... That "VAPORWARE" was already tested and ignited several times already... You can apologize to SpaceX in the next month or two...
Rover on Mars. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
The 🐢 turtle beat the rabbit 🐰 again and again😂😂😂😂
hi spacerace, could you please cover the rlv mission of isro. their version of reusable rockets look very different
Why would he, he's a Chinese, you estupidos😂
Its to deliver something special to someone that disagrees with it
Hi
Do you think they are going to still build the original Long March 9 rocket? They said the reusable one will be ready by 2030, so the original design may not be necessary.
I means they told the public about the reusable one before we see they also build the tank of the old design so...
@Khanet Preeteepveruriya it's the CCP. At this point, I feel we can safely assume what they say is more than 90% an act of face and ego, rather than fact
Depends on how fast they can steal Space X and Nasa Technology and blueprints
Spece X is a lot more vaporware than China. I fail to remember when Space X launched its last space station (since it never happened), but I distinctly remember the Chinese building one. I find that visible achievements outperform Elon's boasts and general bullshit found on Twitter.
@@Infernal_ElfThey had stolen the 5G communication, hypersonic missile and jet engine from u.s., so they'll steal the rocket design that's bigger than the spaceX one for sure. 😂😂
Matatan.🤔.
Ribirin HS,
Let go China.👌.
starship still not ready for first flight? Launch could be only a few weeks away _"...With this work largely completed, the focus now turns toward the final significant hurdle standing between SpaceX's massive rocket and a launch attempt-a license from the Federal Aviation Administration. While such regulatory matters are uncertain, a source said good progress is being made toward the _*_issuance of such a license during the first two weeks of april"_*
The biggest challenge with the USA and rocket companies is not so much as getting things to orbit - but the fast, cheap and accurate manufacturing process. If EM can make SpaceX do that he will be the Henry Ford of the Space Age...and that is where we will see the worlds economy shift to the stars.... (Disclaimer, of course No Asteroids blow us up, no Nukes, no Climate change, People stop shooting each other, Covid and the Flu goes away and AI seems to be like Gumby LOL)
@@Secssl128g Obviously with star ship and full reusability is were the full revolution of rocketry lies, but doesn't spaceX already have lowest cost per kg to orbit worldwide via falcon9/heavy?
@@Secssl128g No abort system?
@@dieleg LOL Panic button BOOM!!!!!
@@blengi yeah - they got it down pretty good but..... I watched a video where Elon was like we "The hardest part is getting the manufacturing process down" and he said "the weren't there yet" (paraphrase) maybe they are now I don't know.
No worries, China is still developing right? Aren't they still consodered a developing nation for some reason?
Chinese copy more than they design on their own.
@@fpp6670 When you are following, it would be stupid not to imitate for altruistic reasons.
@@jameswest4819 and as we know the CCP is a very altruistic body of government when they are not murdering those who decent their rule.
@@fpp6670 Einstein stood on the shoulders of giants, but to you that'll be copying too
@@jonseilim4321 Take a course in logical fallacies.
Imagine saying first
First
Lol can’t be me 😂
You're fifth
I see four firsts … alternate reality or illiteracy at its finest?
or...all of you not realizing that comments only refresh on reloading, so the first batch of people who loaded this video will all see empty comment section until they reload a few seconds later.
I don't think the Chinese see value in landing a human on the moon when robots can pretty much do the job or a better job in exploring it. So they don't really have a need for a heavy rocket unless their thoughts change.
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In fact, the Chinese communists were inspired by the march of a Brazilian Army lieutenant named Luiz Carlos Prestes through Brazil between 1925 and 1927. This march was called "Coluna Prestes". The march had a range of 25,000 kilometers across Brazilian territory. The Chinese communists read the book by Luiz Carlos Prestes, were inspired and made their Long March through China, which is a country a little bigger than Brazil. We Brazilians did not manage to carry out our communist revolution, but the Chinese did. I am Brazilian. Big hug from Brazil.
Nope, China often has long marches to resist foreign enemies in 5000 years China history. It has nothing to do with Brazil even didn't know where Brazil was at the time.
The key to China's success is not communism but the long history and culture of China. When the Chinese communist party realized communism defect they return to Chinese culture and used communism and capitalism to feed Chinese culture then miracle was born. It's called socialism with Chinese characteristics.
Other countries can refer to but cannot copy China's success, because China's achievement stems from Chinese culture.
Chinese culture is the original true king.
Thanks for the update. Very informative.
The original LM9 design uses the most intelligent aspects of the Saturn V and bypasses the difficulties with combustion instability by using smaller dual chambered designs and massive clustering. They stuck with simple, known, cheap kerosene to get off the pad, then drop the weight and use high performance HydoLOX for the upper stages. Gives them payload almost identical to Saturn V and better than SLS.
(SLS has got to be one of the stupider designs that looks like a throwback to the 1950's Atlas stage and a half design. Since they lug the enormous tank almost to orbit, they end up with less payload to orbit than Saturn V even using those high performance HydroLOX engines on the sustainer stage. Stupid.)
I figure the Chinese will follow through on the Saturn like version and get it working for an "edge of their capability" 1969-style race to the moon. They might figure that the US is one disaster away from going all wobbly, and figure they can still beat us back to the surface - with a great propaganda coup.
Then they just wait for SpaceX to make all the mistakes possible and fix the problems on Starship and then use espionage to copy it.
Hopefully, Gwynne Shotwell doesn't have a heart attack or throw up her hands and leave over the "baby man" Elon saying something awful. (I mean does his ego let him admit that without Gwynne, his entire crew would get pissed off and leave?)
As long as we don't go all wobbly, we are still 6 -10 years ahead of China in capability, but they are willing to spend the money necessary to catch up, so we need to keep pushing.
If USA had only one overseas base, instead of 800, it would lead the world in everything. Urgently it leads the world only in murder.
If we believe in that Fake Moon Landing.
starship will take at least another 5 years, maybe 10
You are talking bullocks of China spying on US rocket engineering technology.
@@blockvfive1196
Should be easy, it was done back in 1969, or was it?
I'm elevendyith! \o/
2:06
The King Kong Long Dong rocket sounds more potent
Why are the Chinese soooo intelligent, way ahead of Americans and Europeans?
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Are you serious? 😆😆😆
@@texan-american200 yes, he is serious. He's is a peekisteny and they change their dads on drop of a hat, previously USA was their dad but currently chineses are their dads🤭, so....
lmao what ?
East Asians are very good at physics and mathematics, something that is very much needed in space projects
Everytime you talk about Chinese space program, you mention the origin of the name "long march". I think we got it.😊
Instead of lifting 100 tons at once, why not 5 20 ton lifts? Put the stuff you need up in space a little at a time, then when ready you connect it all up and head for the moon? Not saying putting it all in one rocket load isn't better, but it IS a solution.
Shows a picture of "Chiang Kai Shek" when referring to the Red Army and Chairman Mao as the leader of the "Republic of China", oh boy 😂
So I'd say the design is still undecided --- maybe they are still hoping that SpaceX will collapse so that they can skip the work
They couldn't glean off the complete designs from the source so that's why they're stuck. They're trying their best to get the rest but it's getting difficult with the time
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Imagine the Tortious and the Hare, but the Hare wakes up right as the Tortious is about to cross the finish line and win the race anyway. This is basically the US beating Chine by going back to the Moon while flexing on China lol
Do it US!! We need to focus a little less on our petty differences and more on being the most bad-a country there ever was.
It's better than spending a couple trillion on invading a country that's for sure
@@LazyFigRanch The US is last in healthcare in the western world...rated a d- in infrastructure , ....etc..etc...bad ass..lol
What did china make first? 1. Long covid or 2. Long March 9?
China made you retarded...never go full retard
*I like the "LONG HUNG DONG"*
Yes yes y’all seem to love China in your mouth, I think it’s an obsession
Does SpaceX have a super heavy lift rocket that actually sent stuff to orbit?
A car
@@haruyanto8085 that wasn't on a super heavy lift rocket. Their super heavy launches first full test at end of the month
@@opticnurvy and it exploded xD
Not yet. It would be interesting race between CSA and spaceX to see who get their working superheavy lift rocket first. Tho spaceX got massive advantage because NASA help them while CSA are working on their own.
Falcan heavy can put 64 tons into orbit
They dvelop rocket to go space
Useing ocean water is a idea,condensing salt and the common flow of oxygen.The world has so much oceans,nature will a theory,only to rinthee the cause.
When you say the "Real Reason", you are implying there's a Fake Reason that's being foisted on up the public but you didn't even mention what that fake reason is.
No one uses that F. word , you're a CCP agent
Own the moon and you own the earth.
Chinese are taking this very seriously
Hopefully. within 20 years ,they would come up with a better alternative in going in space than rockets telling the earth off while going into space.
In 20 years, communist China will be divided into 5 or six different countries and the CCP will be torn apart.
Yes 👍.. china's Space center World
That LM-9 weighs a max of 8 MILLION POUNDS. Just in case any of my lazy American friends were curious. Figured it'd pleased my red flagged friends. Jk!
Great report!
China are really doing the most
Let them cook🔥
It should be called the Long Drop, since they fall out of the sky on unsuspecting villages.
Starships dont even make it close to orbit....BOOOM!!!!lol
Dictator not leader one is more benevolent Mao didn't care about the people. Space X did amazing things for space just by reusable rockets alone.
And Mao's march to Yanan was anything by heroic. Clearly, this guy is just another CCP-financed shill.
Nah
Starshit made an amazing explosion lol
@@gaim44 Yup it did at that lol.
@@cuddlesandkafka Homicidal dictator apologist odd
Every time a rocket gose up so douse our Earth 🌎 atmosphere temperature changes we are all in trouble 😢😮 we must 🛑 and think of the future 4 our children right now we should paint streets and roof tops white a.s.a.p. to cool down the flooding situations and it's only going to get wers explosive temperature changes in earths atmosphere is speeding up the problem 4 all of Earth 🌎 we are all watching and all slowly becoming victim of temperature changes in earths atmosphere so what is more important rockets or the planet Earth 🌎🌍 something to think about it's really important to all people we are all in this to get her
Wow really never heard of global warming thanks
first here!
You're second
@@norman_z 😄😄😄
看到评论区很有趣
THE LONG DONG !!! FALLS OUT OF THE SKY EVERY MARCH 😆 LOL..
Starship goes boom!!!! lol
Long March 9 is still a long way from SpaceX's Starship. Starship is fully reusable and is only in 2 stages. Long march 9 being 3 stages means its not fully reusable, most likely only the sea level boosters are reusable.
Another thing to note is if Starship is to be used as an expendable spacecraft, it could carry up to 250 tonnes.
You are a CCP agent
LMAO....wtf Starshit hasnt even made it to orbit...lol
@@gaim44 Long march 9 hasn't even made it to orbit either. So your point?
The CZ 9 is planned to be able to carry a slightly larger payload than the starship but the starship boasting that it can carry 250 tonnes is a big mouth. Finish the current project first and then set a new target.
they have 3 tracks for the lm9, one is the known tested design, one was meant for starship and the third is configurable. The first has always been the failback way. Recently they also took a gamble with 3d printed kerosine powered rocket and did a test commercial launch. China does take calculated risk. Unlike US which has unlimited funding from the printing machine. What allows US to do all these research is because USD is allowed to be the iou currency, not long for now, USD will no longer be a reserved currency, every dime stolen must be repaid to the world
Said the CCP propagandists.
Now its very clear that apollo 11 didnt reach the moon,, just now even NASA is making super rocket,,,, ayayay,,,,, for long time ive been fooled about the first landing in the moon😢
8st!
I wish China all of what they wish towards us…
El-Choctaw-lord-De-CalifasMexicoAztlan Antz-that-walks-in-sky i Cali 🐜🐜
These are the missing piece of history that you need to know.
They manipulated everything since from the distant past and like no one has noticed it.
1 12 Apostles in Bible
2. 12 imam in Muslim tradition
3. 12 days of Christmas song
4. 12 fingers 12 toes Ecuador tribe
5. 12 Stonehenge stones
6. 12 Gobekli tepe stones
7. 12 tribes in Israel
8. 12 towers of Angkor wat
9. 12 planet ancient count
10. 12 exit & entry point of the globe
11. 12 zodiac signs
12. 12 Lunar cycles
13. 12 months in a year
14. 12 pieces in a dozen
15. 12 hours clock revolution
16. 12 Inch in one ft
17. 12 system in human body
18. 12 chakra in meditation
19. 12 councilor town
20. 12 councilor city
21. 12th congress
22. 12 Senators in election
23. 12 k to 12 education system
24. 12 frets in guitar then repeat 12
25. 12 notes in music
26. 12 algorithm code
27. 12 Olympian VS 12 titans n greek
28. 12 rounds in boxing
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30. 12 letters Illumination/illuminati
31. 12 and final fundamental particle
- the higgs boson - God
particle discovery on 2012
When everything's turning into conspiracy with the hidden secret number from history now exposed.
Are you ok?
@@gaim44 D' world is not
@@gaim44 everybody in this world is pretending we're good enough.
And all human love's to have DRAMA
it is only plan..l think this will not happen..
美国应该让美国财阀购买美债，而不是去台湾威胁中国购买美债。中国的钱是劳动获得，美国不该通过俄乌战争来解决美债危机。应该找美国财阀
Correction: stsrship does NOT EXCEED THE SLS IN TERMS OF RAW POWER.. infact the SLS oit classes starship by every conceivable power metrci as its able to achive cis lunar injection off ola single launch whereas starship needs to park in orbit &then launch multiple fuel variants to give it enough fuel for moon drop
The only area starship outclasses the SLS is in the PR department where space stans seem to think its the best thing since sliced bread when in reality even if it DOES succeed its going ro vreate a LOT of problems down the line
No one doubts the Chinese ability to build a SpaceX like rocket that is maybe not initially but over time reusable. I doubt they would be left out of getting to the moon if they can help it. It is also interesting to see that they unlike NASA are able to develop new rockets and improve them over time rather than spend decades deciding to build one than another then the next and every time facing massive cost over runs and insane delays along the way.
I think that it is high time for the US but also Europe and Japan to look at what is happening in the rest of the world and learn from those that are successfully developing new rockets at a pace that these 3 can only dream of. Sure they will claim that they are going to rely on commercial organizations and so on but there is a huge issue with that. What if for what ever reason the US wants to build a new space station with dimensions that cannot be accommodated by the commercial companies? Or what if the commercial companies decided to no longer launch military satellites for Europe and Japan... there are many reasons why betting on the free market is a great idea but there are risks that are in the case of space flight so gigantic if they do materialize that it might be wise to at the very least retain the capability to design and build an alternative in less than a few decades and without a cost overrun that would makes even the US lawmakers blush.
At the beginning of your video you said China's success over the last 30 years is because of their ability to "develop"... Shouldn't you have said reverse-engineer?
absolutely Ancient China had some Fantastic inventors but ever since the CCP dictators came into power china lost alot of Bright and smart thinkers. To Famine and Prosecution on free thought. and have in later years gotten very good at stealing and copying instead. and the Soviets with actual proper scientists helped them along the way in many regards. Soviet was also very bad but they atleast had Space for Engineers and scientists and dident ruin their Education systems.
*May you should said "re-imagined" 🤭 the US tried to block any corporating still on the verge of being surpaaed by China again my advice from 30 years ago stop putting your "top secret" junk rocket design on the internet so when others design better ones that you don't even have, you can't accuse them stole your outdated worthless design LMAO*
Nice hat clown
I hope China, NASA, RUSSIA and India will develop moon bases first and hopefully big space stations in Earth orbit in the next 5 years but we will see.
Nope, please explain what you want first and we can type responses ...thanks
USA: It doesn't make money. It makes more money to wage war and sell arms
First pin
Congratulation china!
FYI, It’s pronounced “mark”, not like the month. Long March 9 = Long Mark 9
They are named after the Long March, which was a military march. Surely the name is a translation, so why should it not be pronounced as he has pronounced it?