This is the most spectacularly designed ship. The Dev that designed it deserves an award. I am not commenting on its capability but its physical design is simply awe inspiring.
It's a good light fighter, not so OP as the previous patch but still a solid ship. I just can't get over the "bird fighters for bird people" aesthetics and start thinking why human fighters are not space mecha every time I see one.
Great video as usual! The design of this ship is just one of the most beautiful! I like that you point out the ship requires some extra skill for good piloting, it's interesting to see how skill requirements are expanding.
I felt the same about this ship. While I owned it, I felt like it had more viability toward a pilot with more pinpoint control and reaction than I had to offer it. Though I chose to upgrade to other options I can see where the potential is in the Talon for the right person.
Another former owner here, i also agree. I upgraded to an ares as i like medium-heavy stuff. But i kept a shrike, because a stealth missle boat is fun.(when the missles stop blowing it up)
Good review, though I'm surprised you didn't show off the landing gear animation and the Wing change mode as that is a very very cool feature for the whole bird of prey theme. ♥
Noite from the future: The Talon is the first alien fighter to have internal storage. Just go to the front like you're going to board and check the inner thought that lists the access prompts.
Power plants are pretty universal right now in 3.14. That is why everyone goes stealth components now, as they all the same powerwise. Could go back to not powerful enough when they balance out coolers and power plants in a future patch
Nice review of this ship Farrister. Unfortunately, I've never flown it or for that matter I haven't even been in one. I have access to one this month. I like the styling of it. It's interesting. I just haven't gotten into the alien designed ships at all. The Nox is pretty much the only one in my fleet that is not really human designed. I've flown a few different alien designed ships and frankly I found them lacking to my taste of things. Give me a Cutlass Black, Arrow, Sabre, or Gladius and I'm happy. Take care, fly safe and I'll see you in the verse.
Coming to these reviews a little late. I played World of Warcraft for 15 years before I got bored with it, and looked for something else. I say that because the first thing I thought upon seeing this was that somebody had created a mechanical version of a Corrupted Dreadwing.
I like this ship with fixed 4 hardpoints. Also the alien shields are a plus. I'm no grand fighter myself but I am considering to get this ship, maybe instead of the Gladius. Don't rightly know.. Also I had no idea about the little compartment under the cockpit! what a nice touch! Edit: I think we're both similar in fighting capabilities. Which would you prefer in medium bountyhunter fights or in general: buccaneer or talon?
@@Farrister Let us hope that the 3.15 update doesn't bring Tetanus infections and chemical rashes into their medical overhaul, unless they make hazmat suits the new Buccaneer uniform! xD
@@Farrister Right, I'm Upgrading the Gladius to the Talon. Gladius is great, easy to get and is very zippy. But the Talon runs circles around the gladius. It's tougher so you can make it up for a bit less firepower. But the devil's in the detail: Buttons! not just mindlessly waving your hand infront of a Kinect-like interface to pop open compartments. Also the Titanfall'esque type of cockpit is great: just turn it off during warp for a quick nap! It's stupid and dumb, but this really made my dish out the money for it: that stupid little cubby on the starbord. This game is a simulation, and if this was real life, I would love to stash some stuff away. And when ejecting it comes with you!
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Great video, Farrister. I love the handling of the Talon ship. Although I've noticed that it's even more of a fragile ship now (in 3.14) than it was in previous patches. Was there something done to it's hull rating?
Might be due to the big combat balance that's taking place, where all shields and weapons have the same stats during this process. I don't think it's affecting hull HP but I have no idea. (And by doing the same damage, I mean within the same sizes)
been away a while and hopped on to start bounty missions and thought this was a perfect tool to make it fun. straight away it couldn’t make the first jump distance. not sure how to make that work for me. kinda a bummer. you said the burst? is that the faster or farther. still new to upgrades
@@Farrister cool i’ll look for it. tried using my warden but ran out of ammo with the first kill. guess i need to change the guns out but will need money for that
@@Farrister thank you. for sure i will because i love the little guy. other than i can never find the exit and every time i click from the sides hoping. i jettison.
I'm really not sure how this compares now days against the other light fighters. Earlier patches it was godlike but just like everything it had to stop and received pretty heavy nerfs.
Does the talon still loose it’s wings easily in combat effectively making it impossible to fly? I imagine worse now given shield changes in 3.14. Also, such a waste leaving gimbals on an agile ship like that, the whole point is it’s much easier to keep on target with fixed on a ship like that, also gimbals are a disaster this patch.
If you just lost 1 wing, you can coax it back to base (if you're patient). If you power off the engines completely, eventually, somehow, it stops spinning and then you can continue.
The Talon is a beautiful ship. While it used to be good for PvE it isn’t great anymore. Thinking about melting it. Not sure what I’ll get in it’s place though 🤔
@@Farrister Too many big ships as well! I’d like to melt some for a Privateer. But I’ve gotten so many of these at a discount that there’s no going back from melting a bunch of them.
The more I thought about it the more I had to do it. I melted a bunch of ships and will be using that credit and my Polaris to try and get a Kraken at IAE.
I love both Talons, but bought mine right before a heavy nerf... So I dropped it and waiting for a better point in time! And right now, with the Master Modes debacle, its probably not the time to try... I consider your review obsolete and probably not worth redoing till Master Modes are done.
Not a fan of this ship, and most light fighters. Using a HOTAS, the movement is too sensitive. The Tana is my preferred light fighter, it is better with aiming.
@@Farrister I'm intrigued as to what your problem is? I'm a heavy DCS player with my TM warthog hotas but with SC I can't even get the throttle working properly sadly but maybe one day they'll make it easier to bind and get working. What's the issue you're having on SC?
This is the most spectacularly designed ship. The Dev that designed it deserves an award. I am not commenting on its capability but its physical design is simply awe inspiring.
It's a great design!
I love how getting into the ship looks like you're being eaten by a bird.
Haha it does!
It's a good light fighter, not so OP as the previous patch but still a solid ship. I just can't get over the "bird fighters for bird people" aesthetics and start thinking why human fighters are not space mecha every time I see one.
xD
Great video as usual!
The design of this ship is just one of the most beautiful!
I like that you point out the ship requires some extra skill for good piloting, it's interesting to see how skill requirements are expanding.
Thank you :)
I felt the same about this ship. While I owned it, I felt like it had more viability toward a pilot with more pinpoint control and reaction than I had to offer it. Though I chose to upgrade to other options I can see where the potential is in the Talon for the right person.
Always good when a former owner agrees!
Another former owner here, i also agree. I upgraded to an ares as i like medium-heavy stuff. But i kept a shrike, because a stealth missle boat is fun.(when the missles stop blowing it up)
Great video sir as always!
Keep up the great work!
Thank you, as always!
Good review, though I'm surprised you didn't show off the landing gear animation and the Wing change mode as that is a very very cool feature for the whole bird of prey theme. ♥
Ah now you say it, feels like a missed opportunity!
@@Farrister It's one of my fav things to do. Fold them in when I dive and then spread them out when I want to pull up. The ship is soooo fun.
Noite from the future: The Talon is the first alien fighter to have internal storage. Just go to the front like you're going to board and check the inner thought that lists the access prompts.
Another fantastc review!
Thank you :)
Now that I have got the hang of basic piloting in this game, test-flying all these ships is incredibly fun!
I love spending time flying them for review!
I’d love to see an alien comparison video between this talon, the khar tu al(?), the blade and the defender!
That would be very cool! I need to buy them all in-game again :(
I love this ship.
Combine the -30 modifiers to all Signatures with Fixed S4 Canons and you have an excellent stealth smiper for Bounty Missions.
Nice loadout suggestion!
As of 3.18 PTU they added some internal inventory, can be accessed the same way you enter the ship with a new option
Good to know!
Such an awesome looking ship, I'd like to try one if and when I get this game.
Dude, I just listened to a video on an entirely different topic, and the narrator has your voice and inflections.
Now you've got me intrigued to know what it was lol
@@Farrister Magik
@@LordTiberius52 Magik?
@@Farrister yeah, his channel name is "foolish fish" and he teaches about magik
This bird is an absolute beast and a joy to fly. It's made of paper though.
As with many a light fighter :)
I know when the Talons first came out their stock power plants couldn't even power everything. Did they change that stock loadout mistake?
Oh it seems fine!
Power plants are pretty universal right now in 3.14. That is why everyone goes stealth components now, as they all the same powerwise. Could go back to not powerful enough when they balance out coolers and power plants in a future patch
Absolutely love this ship.
It's fairly unique :)
If only the C-788’s were as good as last patch. The Talon with those 2 cannons was lethal. Still a fun ship to fly.
Yeah, still a nice one :)
talon and karthual ar my go to fighters x) just so fun to fly =P
Khartual is so... unusual, that makes it more fun!
Nice review of this ship Farrister. Unfortunately, I've never flown it or for that matter I haven't even been in one. I have access to one this month. I like the styling of it. It's interesting. I just haven't gotten into the alien designed ships at all. The Nox is pretty much the only one in my fleet that is not really human designed. I've flown a few different alien designed ships and frankly I found them lacking to my taste of things. Give me a Cutlass Black, Arrow, Sabre, or Gladius and I'm happy. Take care, fly safe and I'll see you in the verse.
That's a good thing - each person bringing their own tastes and preferences :)
Coming to these reviews a little late. I played World of Warcraft for 15 years before I got bored with it, and looked for something else. I say that because the first thing I thought upon seeing this was that somebody had created a mechanical version of a Corrupted Dreadwing.
I like this ship with fixed 4 hardpoints. Also the alien shields are a plus. I'm no grand fighter myself but I am considering to get this ship, maybe instead of the Gladius. Don't rightly know..
Also I had no idea about the little compartment under the cockpit! what a nice touch!
Edit: I think we're both similar in fighting capabilities. Which would you prefer in medium bountyhunter fights or in general: buccaneer or talon?
Personally I'd prefer the Buccaneer, I loved the feel of that ship. I felt very dirty flying it though xD
@@Farrister Let us hope that the 3.15 update doesn't bring Tetanus infections and chemical rashes into their medical overhaul, unless they make hazmat suits the new Buccaneer uniform! xD
@@Farrister Right, I'm Upgrading the Gladius to the Talon. Gladius is great, easy to get and is very zippy. But the Talon runs circles around the gladius. It's tougher so you can make it up for a bit less firepower.
But the devil's in the detail: Buttons! not just mindlessly waving your hand infront of a Kinect-like interface to pop open compartments. Also the Titanfall'esque type of cockpit is great: just turn it off during warp for a quick nap!
It's stupid and dumb, but this really made my dish out the money for it: that stupid little cubby on the starbord. This game is a simulation, and if this was real life, I would love to stash some stuff away. And when ejecting it comes with you!
I would like to request an Archimedes video at some point :)
Duly noted!
I freaking love these ships, but I CANNOT STAND HOW THE QUANTUM HUD DOESN'T LINE UP with the crosshair. Same with the Cutlass black
Agreed! So frustrating!
Hi, I love the content you do and find it to be really good to watch but I do have two questions, one do you have and Org and two do you perhaps have a Discord server I could join ?
I do, and we do! It's called the United Space Confederation, and I put the link in the video description :)
Great video, Farrister. I love the handling of the Talon ship. Although I've noticed that it's even more of a fragile ship now (in 3.14) than it was in previous patches. Was there something done to it's hull rating?
Definitely seems more fragile - I think you're right
Might be due to the big combat balance that's taking place, where all shields and weapons have the same stats during this process. I don't think it's affecting hull HP but I have no idea. (And by doing the same damage, I mean within the same sizes)
I had a crack at this ship a while back it's a lot of fun! Just wish we could change the mfd color one day 😪
Yes please!
Insane design, quantum effect, and combat performance? Jeez.
And the price ..
@@Farrister *r2d2 whistle*
What is the internal storage capacity? One reviewer said it was for ammo for small arms.
I'm afraid I'm not sure, I suffered from the 'great wipe' last year so no longer have it :(
been away a while and hopped on to start bounty missions and thought this was a perfect tool to make it fun. straight away it couldn’t make the first jump distance. not sure how to make that work for me. kinda a bummer. you said the burst? is that the faster or farther. still new to upgrades
It's marginally slower, but gives you more range
@@Farrister cool i’ll look for it. tried using my warden but ran out of ammo with the first kill. guess i need to change the guns out but will need money for that
@@Farrister thank you. for sure i will because i love the little guy. other than i can never find the exit and every time i click from the sides hoping. i jettison.
$150 pledge. Damn... glad I grabbed mine when they were on concept for $90.
That inflation...
What Alien Tax?
Is this review worth an update?
Possibly, 3.14 seems a long time ago now!
Wow, looks just like a falcon, consider the F16's futuristic space fighter version.
A similar vibe, and fits with the avian theme xD
this ship! yes with two S4 laser cannons absolutely wreck..
Ah the fixed option :)
@@Farrister the only option gimbals are the worst!
What is going to be your next ship to review, I would recommend the conni andromeda, it’s gotten a lot of buffs lately
I've been flying the Reliant Tana and the 135C of late - I'll add Andromeda back to the list :)
Don’t rush with the tana, it’s a niche ship that has tons of potential in the right hands
I'm really not sure how this compares now days against the other light fighters.
Earlier patches it was godlike but just like everything it had to stop and received pretty heavy nerfs.
As often happens, when it was released, it was OP. It's probably more in line with other ships right now
Having a bug with this ship. No wings shut off and the ship just keeps spinning out of control
Ugh, had that problem with missing wings, but not with everything attached!
I tried it in Pirate Swarm stock but I seem to do badly, I use HOTAS.
I also use HOTAS :)
Can you fit this into the Hercules C2?
You know, I'm not sure!
How do I get my hands on one
Astro Armada, Area 18, 1.8m aUEC
What about talon shrike?
Copy & paste, replace gun with missile xD I'll need to get some more time in the Shrike
Shrike...smaller guns. Missles blow itself up.
Does the talon still loose it’s wings easily in combat effectively making it impossible to fly? I imagine worse now given shield changes in 3.14. Also, such a waste leaving gimbals on an agile ship like that, the whole point is it’s much easier to keep on target with fixed on a ship like that, also gimbals are a disaster this patch.
Yes it does
1 missle and you loose wing and spin for ever
If you just lost 1 wing, you can coax it back to base (if you're patient). If you power off the engines completely, eventually, somehow, it stops spinning and then you can continue.
The Talon is a beautiful ship. While it used to be good for PvE it isn’t great anymore. Thinking about melting it. Not sure what I’ll get in it’s place though 🤔
It always seems like you own ALL the ships xD
Ugh. At this point I have 25. May be time to melt some of them for a really big ship.
@@AIPilot-Boda kinda thought you probably had big ships too xD
@@Farrister Too many big ships as well! I’d like to melt some for a Privateer. But I’ve gotten so many of these at a discount that there’s no going back from melting a bunch of them.
The more I thought about it the more I had to do it. I melted a bunch of ships and will be using that credit and my Polaris to try and get a Kraken at IAE.
I love both Talons, but bought mine right before a heavy nerf... So I dropped it and waiting for a better point in time!
And right now, with the Master Modes debacle, its probably not the time to try...
I consider your review obsolete and probably not worth redoing till Master Modes are done.
Not a fan of this ship, and most light fighters. Using a HOTAS, the movement is too sensitive. The Tana is my preferred light fighter, it is better with aiming.
Also use a HOTAS, I wonder if it's the same issue I was trying to describe
@@Farrister I'm intrigued as to what your problem is? I'm a heavy DCS player with my TM warthog hotas but with SC I can't even get the throttle working properly sadly but maybe one day they'll make it easier to bind and get working. What's the issue you're having on SC?
@@332FG-Pitman it was actually an issue specific to the Talon. In general I fly just fine in SC (also TM HOTAS)
bro you have gimball and u dont even hit the ships
I don't pretend to be a Top Gun!