For those of you who are wondering, a lot of the things he went over with me didn’t make it onto the video. A lot of people are saying that the exhaust extension may be the problem. That was the first thing I thought of, but I verified with multiple people at Woodmizer who said that is most likely not it. As for water getting in the exhaust, we had it covered!
Did you run the machine anyway keeping an eye on the temperature and oil pressure? I would still try it without the exhaust extension because that was the thing that changed from not having a light to having a light. However you are correct, I am just grabbing at straws hopping something will make sense or have the correct effect. Is the exhaust hard to take off just to see what happens? Where is the accelerator censer listed in the code? Is it where we can poke at it to see what happens? Maybe it just needs cleaning? Or maybe grounding is loose?
Thanks, I was going to say something about the extended exhaust that needed a flap. Glad you guys are now aware. People also forget that there's a good deal of moisture in the air (humidity)(not relative humidity-it would take quite a few of your relatives sweating around it to do any damage. Ha!) even without the rain. Actually, when you first mentioned it about the exhaust extension, a lot of people were mentioning a flap over the end. But we all get busy and forget. Happy for Em. Have a good night, people!
@lumbercapitallogyard no your extension would not be a problem for pushing the exhaust further away. I simply put want this major upgrade for you guys to work flawless no BS fact.
All I can tell you Em is that your pup was being super patient with you. There is NOTHING more important than the stick being tossed. You can make a video or drink your coffee at any time, but tossing the stick when she is ready takes priority 😂😂😂
I love it when the technician says your the only one that has this issues. I hate the use of computerization. Let’s go back to the days when things were simple😮
That was not the least bit boring. In fact, it was very interesting to see the steps involved in troubleshooting a problem with the mill under the direction of a knowledgeable technician at headquarters.
Never let anyone call you dumb. You're not. Neither is Jade. Training and education are a lifetime experience. You and Jade are already doing something that 99% of the population can't. You're both experienced Sawyers and that's saying something for someone as young as you both are. Be proud. Stand tall. And tell the naysayers to take a long walk off a short pier.
They’re not dumb, but they’re young and are dealing with a different machine than they had. They checked it out, tried to reboot it, called the factory, the only thing I would have done is to check all the fluid levels. They did pretty much exactly what they should have done, for what they paid for that machine, the company should send a tech out there and figure out what is wrong with their machine. The tech she talked to said he call back if he could find something out, he should call her back no matter what. He didn’t help her at all with the problems they’re having, what happens if it blows up, he told her to use it. Good thing she has that on video.
@@Hoaxer51 I had noticed where someone pointed out that Emerald never mentioned the exhaust modification. That could create an overpressure problem. I'd say take it off and reset the computer. I've been impressed with Emerald and Jade ever since I discovered LCLY.
This is a direct result of the 'Deep State" being in control. Namely The EPA. They are an unconstitutional agency. Unelected and self egrandizing. If they were elected we could blame ourselves but they're appointed. 99 1/2% of the time they are acting illegally. Regen? On a sawmill?? Y
@@coenvanwyk1 I don't know. I don't have any experience with the Wood Mizers. Long ago, decades and decades, I operated a mill, but it didn't have any computers in it. I do know a thing or 2 about computers. And how if the hard boot doesn't reset it then it's time to talk to the expert.
I felt like you were showing a lot of patience as the technician went over things that you already did and he did not really have an answer in the end. I enjoyed the video.
The woodmizer guy did not sound like a real technician, he just sounds like a woodmizer rep!.. A real technician would know exactly what the problem is and would be able to fix it without ever having looked at the machine!
Take the exhaust extension off. Unplug the computer for 5 minutes, plug it back in. If the light is off, fire up the blade and cut a log. I'm willing to bet you have a backpressure issue caused by the exhaust that the computer is unable to adjust for.
Isn't this the one where she put a pipe on it to get the exhaust out of her face? Which could be adding to that back pressure. This thing is a bad design if it's throwing exhaust at the operator.
Wow... Wood-Mizer should be giving Lumber Capital Log Yard some generous perks, cuz this is one heck of a promotional video for them...they seem to have a good quality technical service... Emerald, you did a good job on this video...👍 Very well done. Jade, the lighting and the camera angles were absolutely perfect...👍 Bravo Girls...👏👏👏
Good quality technical service, are you kidding? Emerald doesn’t know anymore now than before she called them, the only thing they said was to go ahead and use it but to watch it. They paid a lot of money for that mill and it’s what, six months old? They should have immediately sent a tech out when they couldn’t figure out why a red warning light came on!
@@Hoaxer51 The tech support staff spent a lot of time with her in a sincere desire to correct the discrepancy and they aren't done yet... The tech was knowledgeable and if it hasn't already been fixed he is definitely working on it... Did you see the video where the Wood-Mizer technician came out to recalibrate the machine...?? You should watch it... They made a modification to the exhaust system and it's my bet therein lies the problem... Are you a Hoaxer "and" a Troll..?
Hi Em. Just a thought. That upward facing exhaust pipe gets water in it when it rains. That could fill a cylinder with an open exhaust valve with water when there is a hard rain. And that can cause damage from mild to severe depending on the amount of water. You should have a flapper valve like the big tractor trucks and other outdoor equipment with vertical exhaust have. Good luck with the mill. If it's runs good now most likely no water damage has been done. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Praise to you Emerald for doing such a great job working with Wood Mizer phone call and getting through all that technical troubleshooting. Fingers crossed it works out!
As a Motorcycle mechanic, when you change the exhaust it affects the back pressure to the engine , sensors will pick this up on modern engines, usually we have to re-jet the carb or adjust the timing. The computer doesn't like changes...make sure you explain what you did with the exhaust to the rep.....If you didn't already.
It's not a motorcycle. These engines are designed to work in multiple types of operations, including tractors with a lot more extensive exhaust systems. As a DIESEL mechanic extending an exhaust on this particular engine would not have any effect on performance or back pressure unless there is an obstruction.
Motorcycles have baffles in the mufflers so when you change to straight pipes you have to re-jet them. Adding an open extension creates no change to the back pressure.
Great video. My sawmill is an 02 with rapid set works and nissan industrial engine. Woodmizer is very helpful in rare occasion it acts up. The older mills are simple to work on its a shame our world has become so complicated. Keep up the great videos.
Operating a machine properly is one thing - maintaining it and checking all the settings is another. These are quite compact machines, so it takes time to get used to the settings and troubleshooting. Emerald looks pretty from all angles.
Modern technology , How about an Old Fashioned Saw Mill ,as long as the river flows you should be good .To High Tech for this Old man .Levers and pulleys . A long by gone time . Good luck Emerald I got a headache .❤
One of the most interesting vids to-date. A lot of good suggestions offered. Warning lights/error codes often point you in the direction to troubleshoot but don’t give you the final result w/o testing the wire/circuit involved & checking against the parameters associated with it. Often times it can be a bad /loose/corroded ground. Thinking outside of the box (what has changed, ie excessive rain leading to wet connections) is good. As many noted, the exhaust extension would be suspect but could be totally coincidence. Let is know what ends up bing the cause!
Love your channel and is always informative and fun to watch. I am not criticizing you but this particular video definitely highlights the problems we have in today's world with all of the new technologies across the board in literally every aspect of working folks' lives. From GPS auto-guided operations/equipment, things like your sawmill, and even into my profession of structural steel detailing/drafting. It has created an environment that pretty much anyone with a bit of brains and desire/need can become what is called a USER. Meaning anyone can be trained/taught how to operate the software, equipment, etc. but because everything is so automatic/assisted when problems pop up, they are screwed. An OPERATOR knows all they can about their particular job/profession and will have learned knowledge ongoing/expanding to know what to do to keep problems from happening and what to do if problems do arise.
In this case it would seem that one would just run the mill keeping an eye on the temperature and oil pressure. It does not seem that anything important is wrong. I would still keep looking for the answer to engine light but I would also run it.
Trouble lamp ( money light ) Often for stealership can diagnose charge owners . Often these come on an off. Can show clogged DPF which computer defuels engine shuts down . DPF Regen a big issue on many tier 4 diesels . Some can be cleaned for $700+- . Just paid $7000 to CAT to replace DPF on my excavator with 3500 hours . My concern is what happens to these high tech electrical machines in 10 years ?? I often disconnect battery and reboot ECM on occasion.
Remove the exhaust extension. Get a tall wide bore chimney and feed the exhaust into that through a pipe that widens. This should prevent there being a back pressure increase and get the exhaust out of your booth.
The best lights on my LT 50 mill were the tail lights as it went down the road when I sold it. I never could understand anything in any of their manuals. I have owned three woodmizer mills and all manuals might as well have been written in ass backward Mongolian. Don’t ask me about my experience purchasing their edger that came with Polish assembly instructions and the wrong parts. I had to drive it all the way to Georgia to return. These days my operation runs as it should with my SMG electric mill and Reihl edger. Done with the orange stuff
Technology and computers cause a whole bunch of down time everyday everywhere and flashing lights causes the most downtime. There is no need for all this on machines like this. Simple things don't need complicated monitoring and diagnoses. Great video, have a wonderful evening.
Sorry, it is Out of the Woods channel. Nathan is good people I bet he may have some answers for you. Call up the manufacturer, you are maybe under warranty yet? You got it girl., you are smart.
The extension you put on the mill , maybe put a cover on it like a tractor muffler that has the flap that moves when the machine runs. saves from covering it all the time. My old international cub tractor has one on it.
any cable connectors where the recent heavy rains might have soaked the connector? how does water drain out of your vertical exhaust extension? is there a small drainage hole at the elbow?
I have searched all the comments and 3 others believe it is a Cable Connector RAIN issue..... Some connector got rain soaked and it is possible that water or moisture entered the connector through the strain relief part of the plug. Hence the intermittent fault light. Likely the Serial Communication Buss between sensors and modules is dropping off or quitting to operate bringing up a strange code. I would remove and shake each connector you can that was exposed to the heavy rain and look for moisture. It may take installing a water proof wrap on exposed connectors to prevent this in the future. Or move up the timeline to build an enclosure over the mill. Lost cutting time on this video adds up and there will be more in the future. An enclosure will be well worth it. Retired Navy / Sony tech.
One of your past videos showed you doing some general maintenance on the tool. I would go and verify that if you removed any panels, make sure they seated properly. They may be interlocked, and if they’re not quite seated, possibly that interlock switch could be making and breaking and, that could throw weird code.
As a truck driver Re-Gen means your exhaust is too hot most likely from the extension you added, but you should have a Re-Gen button or in the menu somewhere that will run a Re-Gen on the motor and computer to over come the the extension.
I have the idea that some glitches might happen once in a while. All the shaking it does could cause a bad connection. You can use your best judgement. Customer support is very good and when you put your heads together it will be solved. Great job ladies thank you for sharing.👍♥️♥️
Just a helpful side note; I've noticed your audio lately has a lot of distortion. Check the mics and the audio portion of your cameras to see if everything is set properly. Sometimes it's clean, but often not.
Tier 4 can be very fussy. Not bad troubleshooting and not a bad tech on the other end of the line. Sometimes you just won't have a clear cut answer to the issue. Since it runs fine, I would as a test remove the exhaust extension. If the trouble resets and goes away, or can be cleared, then you an try to increase the diameter of the exhaust extension a size or two bigger (have a muffler shop neck down the end of a larger diameter pipe to fit with the existing pipe) than the existing exhaust pipe. This would reduce or eliminate a possible back pressure issue that the computer may not be able to handle. An indicated low voltage fault on a sensor is sometimes just a fault caused by a low battery or from removing the battery connections during servicing work. I could also be caused by a dirty or loose, wet, connection at the sensor or on the wire to the sensor. Sometimes maybe a "did you try turning it off and back on?" works. (like someone else mentioned - disconnect battery for 5 minutes then reconnect the battery and clear any faults).
Did this problem start since you had all that rain? I'd look at all the wire plug connections. Take them apart and use a dry air source to blow the moisture out of both ends. It doesn't take much to ground out a control wire.
Having worked in aerospace mechanical design I can say with all the electronics and computer code that goes into things these days there's no shortage of "unintended consequences". Computers work on such low voltages and currents, the smallest thing out of limits makes what seems like totally unrelated things trigger. I use a washing machine on spin cycle to get excess water out of my surfing gear so it dries faster. One day it wouldn't unlock the lid & stopped spinning. I recalibrated it, ran diagnostics, looked up error codes and nothing. I was going to just set the gears to spin and hardwire a separate switch but looking at it I found a highly corroded motor start capacitor. (Mice had gotten in the surrounding structure & perhaps it was their pee that caused the corrosion but cleaning all that out did the trick. No code said anything about a capacitor problem. I'm surprised as new as that machine is they didn't immediately send someone out to solve the problem. BTW "Kaboom" cleaner is great for cleaning electrical connector corrosion and white vinegar removes rust too - just be sure to rinse them well with water before putting them together with some dielectric grease. Hope it gets solved quickly so you don't get too far behind!
For of one find that even a fuse getting a bit of dust or sawdust in it n around can stop a connection to the system or a sensor maybe Ty for sharing my beautiful spirit family of Em of jade ❤3
Coffee Cold? You should run down to Walmart and pick up a cold brew maker immediately! Ground coffee goes in then room temp water, then let soak in the fridge for 1 day. "Bodum Bean Cold Brew Press and Iced Coffee Maker" Great video btw
A couple of thing;s. You have a cell phone so you can use the camera feature to show Woodmiser exactly what the console is showing. Also that you made exhaust modifications which could be causing the problem.
I'd cover off an easy one and check/change the fuel filter. Also see if there is a secondary fuel filter to check. Running wide open like that the fuel supply must be up to spec both to run the engine and to maintain proper operating temperature.
When you get fault codes on cars, you have to go in and clear them for let's say, the engine lamp to turn of. Since it's a CAN buss, and it said Low Voltage, again.. when that happens on cars .. usually it means that you have bad ground or a tiny short. Also, if some of the ECU unit's are driven by a battery and the charge of the battery is low, you can also get faults. Use an anti oxide spray (for electronics) on the connectors ... Just as an humble suggestion. And not knowing things is not the same as being dump 😉 Thanks for another interesting video.
In the Automotive industry a flashing check light usually means there is a hard fault present. Meaning the fault issue is occurring right now. I do not know the Wood misers system, so, my info is generic. The fault history in the system should give direction to what the computer system is not happy about. That will give direction on how to pin point the issue. Not to be confused here, but, just because the fault reads throttle control, the ultimate issue could be many things. Not always a part failure. Go around your unit, and check every connection plug is locked tight.
I have the same idea as alot of other viewers. Diesel engines have a certain amount of exhaust for a reason. You didn't have the problem until you added the extension . I'm old school and hate the computerization of everything.
Just thought ... the connectors on the engine and remote unit... if you open them up look at the pins inside and look for green corrosion.. yeah its like brand new but if you feel comfortable opening them give them a look .. see if you see any problems anything loose or corroded or not right. and look at all the wiring harnesses for any damage, cuts, abrasions
What stood out to me was the exhaust temp active fluctuations with the engine off. I would look at that extension you installed and check for a sensor that's malfunctioning. Not a woodmizr tech. Lol
If the flashing starts before the engine is even started, and if it’s indicating an issue with the engine exhaust, then it’s most likely an issue with the sensor at the exhaust or the wire connected to the sensor (which is what my bet is, since apparently you made a modification to the exhaust). If it were an actual exhaust problem I would think the engine would have to be running for the exhaust sensor to get a valid reading, but a disconnected sensor or a bad sensor itself would start flashing as soon as you powered up the computer running the mill. If water got into the sensor connection, that too might cause it to give the false reading (shorts out the signal from the sensor).
It sounds like adding the extension caused the exhaust to not move enough air (CO), and the ECU is reading the CO high, or heat. Why did you add an extension? (just curious. did I miss a vid?)
Remember Emeril, you can always go back and look at your own video and remember the steps that he ask you to go through and I will help you with your troubleshooting. Good luck.
Off topic, the clarity of video was exceptional today. Different camera? Much sharper,😊 clearer than usual, just saying. Beautiful ! The saw seems frustrating mediocre service for somethimg so expensivd
How much rain have you collected in your new exhaust rain gauge? You should put a rain guard on it if it is still vertical. If you point it down it will not catch the rain.
It should have a cambus that could connect to the Internet through the data cable, so it could manage the fault telematically. Having a particle filter is a problem, if it has AdBlue another one..
A CAN buss ( closed area network) is a communication system that kinda works like an old fashioned telephone party line. Every one is on the same phone line. The micro processors (mini computers) throughout the mill each are responsible for a smaller certain task. There is a host master computer that is in charge on the line that polls these modules every now and then and asks, "hey guys hows it going?" "What's going on? If one of the mini computers or the master, is not seeing a programmed response to, or communication back from a command over a specified amount of time. You will get a "check engine" light. In your case a "check mill" light. This communication scheme happens millions of times a second. The same system is in your truck or car.
I listened to the video again. at 16:50 he seems to be saying to run it. It is after all a rpm code but the engine is running at the desired rpm. I saw a engine temperature light/gauge but I did not see oil pressure. It is not likely you can hurt the machine as long as it is not too hot and has oil pressure. So run it till you can try it without the new pipe on there. Well that is not much help at 6:16PM however let us know what you do and what happens.
For those of you who are wondering, a lot of the things he went over with me didn’t make it onto the video. A lot of people are saying that the exhaust extension may be the problem. That was the first thing I thought of, but I verified with multiple people at Woodmizer who said that is most likely not it. As for water getting in the exhaust, we had it covered!
Did you run the machine anyway keeping an eye on the temperature and oil pressure?
I would still try it without the exhaust extension because that was the thing that changed from not having a light to having a light. However you are correct, I am just grabbing at straws hopping something will make sense or have the correct effect. Is the exhaust hard to take off just to see what happens?
Where is the accelerator censer listed in the code? Is it where we can poke at it to see what happens? Maybe it just needs cleaning? Or maybe grounding is loose?
One guy said to go around and check all the connections to see if they are tight and clean. not a bad idea but a painful one!
@lumbercapitallogyard respectfull consideration when troubleshooting.
Thanks, I was going to say something about the extended exhaust that needed a flap. Glad you guys are now aware. People also forget that there's a good deal of moisture in the air (humidity)(not relative humidity-it would take quite a few of your relatives sweating around it to do any damage. Ha!) even without the rain. Actually, when you first mentioned it about the exhaust extension, a lot of people were mentioning a flap over the end. But we all get busy and forget. Happy for Em. Have a good night, people!
@lumbercapitallogyard no your extension would not be a problem for pushing the exhaust further away. I simply put want this major upgrade for you guys to work flawless no BS fact.
All I can tell you Em is that your pup was being super patient with you. There is NOTHING more important than the stick being tossed. You can make a video or drink your coffee at any time, but tossing the stick when she is ready takes priority 😂😂😂
I love it when the technician says your the only one that has this issues. I hate the use of computerization. Let’s go back to the days when things were simple😮
I think maybe you mean the days when things were sloppier and less accurate. I hate the use simpler is better.
IKR! What ever happened to KISS?
For what they cost ,they need to send someone out, makes me rethink of upgrading my mill
Exactly!
Found the New Video where you fixed the problem. Good Job.
Thumbnail of the year award goes to....drum roll....Emerald!!!! Fun vid, as always, ladies!!
Emerald, you are doing just fine, you will get it solved and get back on track soon
That was not the least bit boring. In fact, it was very interesting to see the steps involved in troubleshooting a problem with the mill under the direction of a knowledgeable technician at headquarters.
knowledgeable technician, that's an insult to real technician's.
So love your dog waiting for you, he/she is a great scene steeler! That “actor” knows instinctively the way to upstage!
Never let anyone call you dumb. You're not. Neither is Jade. Training and education are a lifetime experience. You and Jade are already doing something that 99% of the population can't. You're both experienced Sawyers and that's saying something for someone as young as you both are.
Be proud. Stand tall. And tell the naysayers to take a long walk off a short pier.
They’re not dumb, but they’re young and are dealing with a different machine than they had. They checked it out, tried to reboot it, called the factory, the only thing I would have done is to check all the fluid levels. They did pretty much exactly what they should have done, for what they paid for that machine, the company should send a tech out there and figure out what is wrong with their machine. The tech she talked to said he call back if he could find something out, he should call her back no matter what. He didn’t help her at all with the problems they’re having, what happens if it blows up, he told her to use it. Good thing she has that on video.
@@Hoaxer51 I had noticed where someone pointed out that Emerald never mentioned the exhaust modification. That could create an overpressure problem. I'd say take it off and reset the computer.
I've been impressed with Emerald and Jade ever since I discovered LCLY.
@@deanfranklin6870 I would be inclined to agree. This regeneration thing may alkso be an issue, is it possible to run a program to do that?
This is a direct result of the 'Deep State" being in control. Namely The EPA. They are an unconstitutional agency. Unelected and self egrandizing. If they were elected we could blame ourselves but they're appointed. 99 1/2% of the time they are acting illegally. Regen? On a sawmill?? Y
@@coenvanwyk1 I don't know. I don't have any experience with the Wood Mizers. Long ago, decades and decades, I operated a mill, but it didn't have any computers in it. I do know a thing or 2 about computers. And how if the hard boot doesn't reset it then it's time to talk to the expert.
This is fantastic!!!! We get another video!!!!!
I felt like you were showing a lot of patience as the technician went over things that you already did and he did not really have an answer in the end. I enjoyed the video.
Great comments re: this vid, Scott.
The woodmizer guy did not sound like a real technician, he just sounds like a woodmizer rep!.. A real technician would know exactly what the problem is and would be able to fix it without ever having looked at the machine!
Take the exhaust extension off. Unplug the computer for 5 minutes, plug it back in. If the light is off, fire up the blade and cut a log. I'm willing to bet you have a backpressure issue caused by the exhaust that the computer is unable to adjust for.
Sounds right.
If she has bends in it, YES it will throw alarms
It's a cheap try at something that will only take a few minutes. Give this a try. You've got nothing to lose😅😅
Yup
Only variable
Isn't this the one where she put a pipe on it to get the exhaust out of her face? Which could be adding to that back pressure.
This thing is a bad design if it's throwing exhaust at the operator.
Wow... Wood-Mizer should be giving Lumber Capital Log Yard some generous perks, cuz this is one heck of a promotional video for them...they seem to have a good quality technical service...
Emerald, you did a good job on this video...👍 Very well done.
Jade, the lighting and the camera angles were absolutely perfect...👍
Bravo Girls...👏👏👏
Good quality technical service, are you kidding? Emerald doesn’t know anymore now than before she called them, the only thing they said was to go ahead and use it but to watch it. They paid a lot of money for that mill and it’s what, six months old? They should have immediately sent a tech out when they couldn’t figure out why a red warning light came on!
@@Hoaxer51 The tech support staff spent a lot of time with her in a sincere desire to correct the discrepancy and they aren't done yet... The tech was knowledgeable and if it hasn't already been fixed he is definitely working on it...
Did you see the video where the Wood-Mizer technician came out to recalibrate the machine...?? You should watch it...
They made a modification to the exhaust system and it's my bet therein lies the problem...
Are you a Hoaxer "and" a Troll..?
@@Hoaxer51 Agreed.
Thank you for such a very fine video, congratulations to you and him. Nice ring.
Excellent intro. Professional and enjoyable.
Hi Em. Just a thought. That upward facing exhaust pipe gets water in it when it rains. That could fill a cylinder with an open exhaust valve with water when there is a hard rain.
And that can cause damage from mild to severe depending on the amount of water. You should have a flapper valve like the big tractor trucks and other outdoor equipment with vertical exhaust have. Good luck with the mill. If it's runs good now most likely no water damage has been done. Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Not boring at all, it’s amazing the more modern and convenient things become the bigger headache they can become.
Not boring. I deal with this stuff and find it cool that you are dealing with it so well.
Well I sure hope you get your machine running without that light blinking hang in there kiddo you’re doing great🧐✊🇺🇸
We will need a part two.
I hope you get the mill running today.I love your channel it’s the only lumber channel I watch. That dog is so cute ❤
Praise to you Emerald for doing such a great job working with Wood Mizer phone call and getting through all that technical troubleshooting. Fingers crossed it works out!
As a Motorcycle mechanic, when you change the exhaust it affects the back pressure to the engine , sensors will pick this up on modern engines, usually we have to re-jet the carb or adjust the timing. The computer doesn't like changes...make sure you explain what you did with the exhaust to the rep.....If you didn't already.
It's not a motorcycle. These engines are designed to work in multiple types of operations, including tractors with a lot more extensive exhaust systems. As a DIESEL mechanic extending an exhaust on this particular engine would not have any effect on performance or back pressure unless there is an obstruction.
@marckimbrell4645 As a heavy equipment mechanic I agree
Moisture mite have collected perhaps, things happen.🤷♂️
Motorcycles have baffles in the mufflers so when you change to straight pipes you have to re-jet them. Adding an open extension creates no change to the back pressure.
I hate it when people think they need to qualify their opinion with "as a". It's not necessary and very juvenile. We don't care about your profession.
Enjoy that LT70. You are going to be working that thing a long time.
Make sure we get a part 2. Thanks
Great video. My sawmill is an 02 with rapid set works and nissan industrial engine. Woodmizer is very helpful in rare occasion it acts up. The older mills are simple to work on its a shame our world has become so complicated. Keep up the great videos.
Something is a pain. Work through it. Hopefully, everything will work out.
the dog is cute and is saying hey its play time now
As a software eng, this was a very entertaining video
Great video!
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Operating a machine properly is one thing - maintaining it and checking all the settings is another. These are quite compact machines, so it takes time to get used to the settings and troubleshooting. Emerald looks pretty from all angles.
Nice job with Dennis. Listening and following instructions, nice job. Sounds like Dennis has the parts on the way. Wood-Mizer will get this resolved.
Modern technology , How about an Old Fashioned Saw Mill ,as long as the river flows you should be good .To High Tech for this Old man .Levers and pulleys . A long by gone time . Good luck Emerald I got a headache .❤
One of the most interesting vids to-date. A lot of good suggestions offered. Warning lights/error codes often point you in the direction to troubleshoot but don’t give you the final result w/o testing the wire/circuit involved & checking against the parameters associated with it. Often times it can be a bad /loose/corroded ground. Thinking outside of the box (what has changed, ie excessive rain leading to wet connections) is good. As many noted, the exhaust extension would be suspect but could be totally coincidence. Let is know what ends up bing the cause!
❤ great video. Every day things to deal with including playing with your pet. Life happens.
Love your channel and is always informative and fun to watch. I am not criticizing you but this particular video definitely highlights the problems we have in today's world with all of the new technologies across the board in literally every aspect of working folks' lives. From GPS auto-guided operations/equipment, things like your sawmill, and even into my profession of structural steel detailing/drafting. It has created an environment that pretty much anyone with a bit of brains and desire/need can become what is called a USER. Meaning anyone can be trained/taught how to operate the software, equipment, etc. but because everything is so automatic/assisted when problems pop up, they are screwed. An OPERATOR knows all they can about their particular job/profession and will have learned knowledge ongoing/expanding to know what to do to keep problems from happening and what to do if problems do arise.
In this case it would seem that one would just run the mill keeping an eye on the temperature and oil pressure. It does not seem that anything important is wrong. I would still keep looking for the answer to engine light but I would also run it.
Trouble lamp ( money light )
Often for stealership can diagnose charge owners .
Often these come on an off.
Can show clogged DPF which computer defuels engine shuts down .
DPF Regen a big issue on many tier 4 diesels .
Some can be cleaned for $700+- .
Just paid $7000 to CAT to replace DPF on my excavator with 3500 hours .
My concern is what happens to these high tech electrical machines in 10 years ??
I often disconnect battery and reboot ECM on occasion.
That mill should still be under Warranty
According to the manual, DTC 91 is Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor "A". Sounds like a problem with the throttle control. Possibly shorted to ground.
Yep!
Remove the exhaust extension. Get a tall wide bore chimney and feed the exhaust into that through a pipe that widens. This should prevent there being a back pressure increase and get the exhaust out of your booth.
The best lights on my LT 50 mill were the tail lights as it went down the road when I sold it. I never could understand anything in any of their manuals. I have owned three woodmizer mills and all manuals might as well have been written in ass backward Mongolian.
Don’t ask me about my experience purchasing their edger that came with Polish assembly instructions and the wrong parts. I had to drive it all the way to Georgia to return.
These days my operation runs as it should with my SMG electric mill and Reihl edger. Done with the orange stuff
Reading the comments I see a lot of advice, I’ll give you mine. Unscrew the front panel unscrew the bulb put the panel back on and get to work!
It's blinker fluid issue.
Technology and computers cause a whole bunch of down time everyday everywhere and flashing lights causes the most downtime. There is no need for all this on machines like this. Simple things don't need complicated monitoring and diagnoses. Great video, have a wonderful evening.
I agree 100%!
Hey! I found a stick. here's a stick. Have you seen any sticks around here? Oh look a stick. You need to stay loose, you should throw this stick.
My favorite part of the video!
Sorry, it is Out of the Woods channel. Nathan is good people I bet he may have some answers for you. Call up the manufacturer, you are maybe under warranty yet? You got it girl., you are smart.
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The extension you put on the mill , maybe put a cover on it like a tractor muffler that has the flap that moves when the machine runs. saves from covering it all the time. My old international cub tractor has one on it.
any cable connectors where the recent heavy rains might have soaked the connector? how does water drain out of your vertical exhaust extension? is there a small drainage hole at the elbow?
I have searched all the comments and 3 others believe it is a Cable Connector RAIN issue..... Some connector got rain soaked and it is possible that water or moisture entered the connector through the strain relief part of the plug. Hence the intermittent fault light. Likely the Serial Communication Buss between sensors and modules is dropping off or quitting to operate bringing up a strange code.
I would remove and shake each connector you can that was exposed to the heavy rain and look for moisture. It may take installing a water proof wrap on exposed connectors to prevent this in the future. Or move up the timeline to build an enclosure over the mill. Lost cutting time on this video adds up and there will be more in the future. An enclosure will be well worth it. Retired Navy / Sony tech.
Great people at WoodMizer. Stay safe.
The signals that controls the movements and functions.
One of your past videos showed you doing some general maintenance on the tool. I would go and verify that if you removed any panels, make sure they seated properly. They may be interlocked, and if they’re not quite seated, possibly that interlock switch could be making and breaking and, that could throw weird code.
As a truck driver Re-Gen means your exhaust is too hot most likely from the extension you added, but you should have a Re-Gen button or in the menu somewhere that will run a Re-Gen on the motor and computer to over come the the extension.
I have the idea that some glitches might happen once in a while. All the shaking it does could cause a bad connection. You can use your best judgement. Customer support is very good and when you put your heads together it will be solved. Great job ladies thank you for sharing.👍♥️♥️
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Just a helpful side note; I've noticed your audio lately has a lot of distortion. Check the mics and the audio portion of your cameras to see if everything is set properly. Sometimes it's clean, but often not.
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Tier 4 can be very fussy. Not bad troubleshooting and not a bad tech on the other end of the line. Sometimes you just won't have a clear cut answer to the issue. Since it runs fine, I would as a test remove the exhaust extension. If the trouble resets and goes away, or can be cleared, then you an try to increase the diameter of the exhaust extension a size or two bigger (have a muffler shop neck down the end of a larger diameter pipe to fit with the existing pipe) than the existing exhaust pipe. This would reduce or eliminate a possible back pressure issue that the computer may not be able to handle. An indicated low voltage fault on a sensor is sometimes just a fault caused by a low battery or from removing the battery connections during servicing work. I could also be caused by a dirty or loose, wet, connection at the sensor or on the wire to the sensor. Sometimes maybe a "did you try turning it off and back on?" works. (like someone else mentioned - disconnect battery for 5 minutes then reconnect the battery and clear any faults).
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Did this problem start since you had all that rain?
I'd look at all the wire plug connections. Take them apart and use a dry air source to blow the moisture out of both ends. It doesn't take much to ground out a control wire.
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It is ok There is ALOT i do not know either and i am 58. Like running that mill I know nothing of it as well. You are GREAT.
Having worked in aerospace mechanical design I can say with all the electronics and computer code that goes into things these days there's no shortage of "unintended consequences". Computers work on such low voltages and currents, the smallest thing out of limits makes what seems like totally unrelated things trigger. I use a washing machine on spin cycle to get excess water out of my surfing gear so it dries faster. One day it wouldn't unlock the lid & stopped spinning. I recalibrated it, ran diagnostics, looked up error codes and nothing. I was going to just set the gears to spin and hardwire a separate switch but looking at it I found a highly corroded motor start capacitor. (Mice had gotten in the surrounding structure & perhaps it was their pee that caused the corrosion but cleaning all that out did the trick. No code said anything about a capacitor problem. I'm surprised as new as that machine is they didn't immediately send someone out to solve the problem. BTW "Kaboom" cleaner is great for cleaning electrical connector corrosion and white vinegar removes rust too - just be sure to rinse them well with water before putting them together with some dielectric grease. Hope it gets solved quickly so you don't get too far behind!
For of one find that even a fuse getting a bit of dust or sawdust in it n around can stop a connection to the system or a sensor maybe
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Coffee Cold? You should run down to Walmart and pick up a cold brew maker immediately! Ground coffee goes in then room temp water, then let soak in the fridge for 1 day. "Bodum Bean Cold Brew Press and Iced Coffee Maker" Great video btw
looks like fun.. if it says low voltage i would test the voltage with a multimeter.. but you need diagrams and info to do that. Wish you luck with it.
A couple of thing;s. You have a cell phone so you can use the camera feature to show Woodmiser exactly what the console is showing. Also that you made exhaust modifications which could be causing the problem.
I'd cover off an easy one and check/change the fuel filter. Also see if there is a secondary fuel filter to check. Running wide open like that the fuel supply must be up to spec both to run the engine and to maintain proper operating temperature.
Hi, Just a suggestion here, try removing the exhaust extension and see what happens. I suspect it will be something to do with the EPA sensors.
I wonder if the recent heavy rains put a lot of water down that extension?
@@JayWye52 no water in the extension, we had it covered
When you get fault codes on cars, you have to go in and clear them for let's say, the engine lamp to turn of. Since it's a CAN buss, and it said Low Voltage, again.. when that happens on cars .. usually it means that you have bad ground or a tiny short. Also, if some of the ECU unit's are driven by a battery and the charge of the battery is low, you can also get faults. Use an anti oxide spray (for electronics) on the connectors ... Just as an humble suggestion. And not knowing things is not the same as being dump 😉 Thanks for another interesting video.
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Didn't hear you tell Dennis about the exhaust extension. Might make a difference...especially if you added a bend.
Hope it don't void the warranty,,always call before modifications 🎉
In the Automotive industry a flashing check light usually means there is a hard fault present. Meaning the fault issue is occurring right now. I do not know the Wood misers system, so, my info is generic. The fault history in the system should give direction to what the computer system is not happy about. That will give direction on how to pin point the issue. Not to be confused here, but, just because the fault reads throttle control, the ultimate issue could be many things. Not always a part failure. Go around your unit, and check every connection plug is locked tight.
I have the same idea as alot of other viewers. Diesel engines have a certain amount of exhaust for a reason. You didn't have the problem until you added the extension . I'm old school and hate the computerization of everything.
Might be the "DPF burn off cycle"? Needs to burn off the soot in the exhaust filter.
Just thought ... the connectors on the engine and remote unit... if you open them up look at the pins inside and look for green corrosion.. yeah its like brand new but if you feel comfortable opening them give them a look .. see if you see any problems anything loose or corroded or not right. and look at all the wiring harnesses for any damage, cuts, abrasions
What stood out to me was the exhaust temp active fluctuations with the engine off. I would look at that extension you installed and check for a sensor that's malfunctioning. Not a woodmizr tech. Lol
If the flashing starts before the engine is even started, and if it’s indicating an issue with the engine exhaust, then it’s most likely an issue with the sensor at the exhaust or the wire connected to the sensor (which is what my bet is, since apparently you made a modification to the exhaust). If it were an actual exhaust problem I would think the engine would have to be running for the exhaust sensor to get a valid reading, but a disconnected sensor or a bad sensor itself would start flashing as soon as you powered up the computer running the mill. If water got into the sensor connection, that too might cause it to give the false reading (shorts out the signal from the sensor).
It sounds like adding the extension caused the exhaust to not move enough air (CO), and the ECU is reading the CO high, or heat. Why did you add an extension? (just curious. did I miss a vid?)
Oh one thing you can try is start her up n take one fuse at a time out you might find out were the problem is
Remember Emeril, you can always go back and look at your own video and remember the steps that he ask you to go through and I will help you with your troubleshooting. Good luck.
Off topic, the clarity of video was exceptional today. Different camera? Much sharper,😊 clearer than usual, just saying. Beautiful ! The saw seems frustrating mediocre service for somethimg so expensivd
I would try disconnecting the battery for a minute and reconnecting. worth a shot.
Time for some diagnostics training jade ...never hurts to learn outside your field !😊
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Beautiful and smart you girls are amazing
Your machine didnt like the rain either. j/k. hopefully they fix it fast for you.
How much rain have you collected in your new exhaust rain gauge? You should put a rain guard on it if it is still vertical. If you point it down it will not catch the rain.
Bingo !!!
@@timheffner not bingo. They put a can or something on the exhaust pipe: no rain got in. good grief!
@@scottsoper is that standard shutdown procedure for them,to put a can on the exhaust tip?
Good luck
While you're waiting, I suggest calling Grandpa!
It should have a cambus that could connect to the Internet through the data cable, so it could manage the fault telematically. Having a particle filter is a problem, if it has AdBlue another one..
Did you uninstall the pipe you added to the exhaust to see if that is causing the light to come on.
A CAN buss ( closed area network) is a communication system that kinda works like an old fashioned telephone party line. Every one is on the same phone line. The micro processors (mini computers) throughout the mill each are responsible for a smaller certain task. There is a host master computer that is in charge on the line that polls these modules every now and then and asks, "hey guys hows it going?" "What's going on? If one of the mini computers or the master, is not seeing a programmed response to, or communication back from a command over a specified amount of time. You will get a "check engine" light. In your case a "check mill" light. This communication scheme happens millions of times a second. The same system is in your truck or car.
take the exhust ext off and see if the code goes away,there maybe to much pressure that throws the code. It certianly cant hurt too try it. Good luck
Check the oil level and coolant level, temperature. if they are in the parameters run it.
Most important, keep watch of the engine oil pressure and engine temperature. Could be a 'regen' problem too.
I listened to the video again. at 16:50 he seems to be saying to run it. It is after all a rpm code but the engine is running at the desired rpm. I saw a engine temperature light/gauge but I did not see oil pressure. It is not likely you can hurt the machine as long as it is not too hot and has oil pressure. So run it till you can try it without the new pipe on there. Well that is not much help at 6:16PM however let us know what you do and what happens.