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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - Real bad tape!
02:08 - Testing
02:40 - Wow/Flutter
03:42 - Hiss (stupid)
04:42 - Squeal
05:11 - Doubler (or misaligned tape heads...)
05:47 - Tape Stop
06:02 - MAGIC MAGNETS
06:48 - Push-Pull
08:02 - Resonator
08:26 - Phaser
08:49 - Sidechain?!?!
10:34 - Disclosure
10:57 - Support me! - Навчання та стиль
During my broadcast career, I woked on most of the tape machines that were made from the 50's through the 90's. This plugin is most of the maintenance nightmares from my early career.
The Squeal function would have something to do with electronic feedback which could be a breakdown in the electronics. In tube electronics [early Ampex machines] it could be a microphonic tube. Bias bleed is a strong possibility as early Ampex tube electronics would exibit that problem.
Flutter can be caused by excessive capstan wear. Bad capstan bearings can also cause rumble.
Phasing can be caused by poor azimuth adjustment or badly worn tape lifter or guides.
Wow can be caused by a badly worn pinch roller or improper tension adjustment or both.
Most of that "warm tape and transformer" sound is a result of hysteresis loss.
I started recording in the early 70's and I've always been most interested in the most accurate means of recording I could afford. My goal was and still is to make recordings that accurately reflect what I heard at the event. In studio, I always endevored to achieve the most accurate capture of what I heard in the room.
I would point out that back in the 70's and 80's we would not reuse master session tapes, once the tracking and master mixing was done the session master was archived. This was due to the high frequency loss due to oxide shed, edge damage and hysteresis loss. If the tape was reused for some non critical project it would have to be demagnetized to eliminate ghost audio in the track edges. Huge demagnetizers were used, don't wear a watch nearby. By the 80's 2" session masters were typically run at 30 IPS for about 15 minutes of TRT. Way too many times we'd have tapes run out on a take. I just hated the sound of tape flap runout.
Always amazes me that sound engineers today seem obsessed with tape? as if its the magic in the mix ? I agree with all of the above and spent too many hours trying to eliminate tape machine idiosyncrasies'. I will certainly not be pushing any of my audio through this plug in but for those interested in this sort of thing...then it sounds pretty much spot on...and gives me the shivers of times gone bye.
Fascinating comment! Thanks.
that was informative, thanks 👍🏿
@@circlemover tape is one of the most beautiful sounding things ever created. very 3d sounding. but i will admit, my reel to reel recorder is packed away collecting dust these days... i would rather use plugins to do the trick. skip out on all the maintenance etc. rofl.
@@jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 Thanks for the comment although the effect of distance and height in a mix, is down to the skill of of the engineer using close and distant mic technique and reverb glue! hard instrumentation - like brass - can be set back and high up. Soft instruments - like wind and flute - can come forward and low. If this sort of thing floats your boat. Vocals can do both of course. One thing I will say in defense of recording on good quality tape...it can saturate high energy transients of high frequencies which adds a certain quality to the sound of the audio. This, as you know, can not be replicated in the digital domain. Some believe that analog is king because of this. Its a question of taste in the end. I'm with you on the no maintenance mate!
Need you to review the God Particle by Jaycen Joshua
Yes!!! I was thinking this when I saw the release!
X2
I’ve been enjoying it. But would like someone to break down what’s going on behind the software.
@@MK-fw4to I made the comment before the video was made.
1970's: "Man, I wish I had a computer to help clean up the audio, would be awesome"
2020's "Man I wish I had a tape machine to help dirty up the audio, would be awesome"
the sweet spot is controllable dirty. when you can’t control it, you hate it; when there’s no dirt, you miss it.
@@kage-fm gotta know where and how to find the dirty if you wanna fall in love.. sounds like a night at the bar, ha ha
I love the "dirty tape" emulation of Softube. It really-really works on material that needs to have less harsh highs and the "fake stereo" mode or the "decoupled" mode is also excellent at bringing stereo material wider (it also introduces kind of phasing in mono, but listening on a phone speaker and a laptop speaker was pleasant). So, I started using in mixes a lot. It is especially shining on very digital synth sounds. Probably it is not super realistic, but it is great adding that organic movement.
Push-Pull is what we old people used to call _pre-emphasis/de-emphasis._ Dan has a great video on this.
After watching that video, I’ve wondered why more saturation plugins don’t have it built in like this one
Fun fact: layering noise on a mix will almost always cause a form of frequency masking that is very flattering to most frequencies, especially hi-mids and above. This is why EDM producers layer white noise or crowd noise into their mixes, aside from filling out the frequency spectrum. I believe this is just one reason why tape is so flattering to sources and mixdowns.
reverb does something similar. Sometimes the lack of reverb is the real problem.
Maybe this is why I have noticed that listening to a broadcast from a bit of a distance sounds smoother on the high end than when you listen from closer in.
@@adanhendrixvideo727 Good point. Valhalla Shimmer works really well for this because it all washes together because of the long tails.
Exactly. There's an airwindows plugin Texture/Satin that you can use on an individual track to add some noisy bits for it to stand out in a busy mix.
00:39 Dan Worrall nearly choking on his English breakfast tea as he lunges for the keyboard.
I had a client ask me to add hiss once. It was only one vocal track and a piano (VST). It helped glue them together, especially in between vocal lines where I made the vocal track silent. I used the hiss from Waves H-comp. I thought he was crazy but it worked well....very subtle.
This has more features than any other tape plugin I've ever seen!!! I love Denise Audio's plugins - FYI it's on-sale at Plugin Boutique for 67% Off until 20-Feb 2024...!
this plugin actually pretty good if you know how and when to use it
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"Kill it with Fire" LOL!!! Thanks for the review, very helpful.
This plugin seems like it was designed specifically with lo-fi producers in mind. I wouldn’t be using this very often, but I can imagine a lo-fi producer would be giddy to have all these features packed into a single interface
Prolly works on techno too
Wytse, of all the tape emulators you have seen, which ones are "passable" for us mortals without tape machines to use on a master chain? I've used Mixbus for a while which sounds good to me, but what are your thoughts on that? Knowing of course, that not all mixes will necessarily benefit of it, and also your take on which kind of mixes do benefit from that, would be amazing, thanks!
Hey you learned how to say wow! Well done sir thank you for the review
Would love to see your review specifically of the KNOCK drum buss plugin.
I like the effects in the plugin for making slight variations and saturations, like Mello-Fi from Arturia but with more controls.
I hope you don't miss your home planet too much. Great having you here.
Squeal is caused by the tape sliding on itself as it's spooled from the reel, or it can also be caused when the oxide is releasing from the backing.
Love denise plugs.
Hiss…. I wish I could turn that off on my el-cheapo behinger mixer. It sounds a lot like the hiss simulation in this plugin. But magnets and tapes isn’t that a little dangerous combination?
Well you could put up for a slightly more expensive interface with a better noise floor. Check out some of Julian Krauss’ videos for some great comparisons
If you already have Bad Tape there is an update price to v2 of £29. I've used Bad Tape quite a lot in sound design, so an upgrade to V2 for £29. Yep 🧡 I really like Denise's plugins. Elegant, simple and yet you can dive into complex, with great GUIs, and a unique character❤
Tape squeal is when the tape sticks to the playback head. I'm not sure exactly what causes the squealing, maybe the tape is vibrating on playback head and the movement simulates higher frequency sound. Radio shack used to sell a tape head lubrication fluid that helped.
yeah I believe thats it. same way when you drag your finger down a moist window and get that squeaky squeal
"This actually sounds like my home planet"...do I win a prize for catching that?
This is a cool plugin! Although with some creative chaining you can recreate all of the functions of this plugin with the free kilohearts v2 tools and snapheap, minus the hiss of course…
Hiss would be easy to get. Just throw the gain all the way up on your interface and record that
Squeel seems like if you need to turn in the MPX filter when recording off fm stereo, but you don’t turn it on lol
Hiss is more of a [production than a mixing tool, it does make things sound vintage, same with vinyl crackle its a nostalgia thing. It does depend on the noise though, I do like the noise in cymatic origin that thing is just a lofi machine. EDM uses white noise all the time as an effect and hiss isn't disimilar. For mixing plugins I think being able to turn it off is important.
“This actually sounds like my home planet” 😂😂😂
Warm, pre and post eq and side chain 💯… the rest, great for effects in production… the warm does sound pretty good, not quite as good as analog units I know but still pretty good
I assume that squeal is the (mis-) allocation or wrong angle of the recording head in relation to the tape, sometime refered to as azimuth. E g. Soweit really harsch topend.
I remember watching a Disclosure stream where they said that they always put a little hiss very subtle in the background of their tracks
I'd be really interested to see you review blyss by kush audio
Thanks for the review as always :)
Is it allowed to Plug Out these dayz ?
also believe it or not hiss can add something cool to the sound you just have to know how to use it, with a gate
Its all about nostalgic gluey ear filling Hiss-tory :)
I know this video is old, I'm just catching up. Not sure if anyone else said it, but Squealing is caused by tape dragging on the head, in my experience when the tape had lost its lubricant.
Hey Wytse. Cool vid as always. Could you take a look at Jaycen Joshua's The God Particle next?
Would love to see how you like it.
1:44 sounds like something Freakshow Industries would develop, except instead of having to repurchase the plugin you have the option of stealing a new copy, from their website.
Adding noise can be good sometimes if you’re for example trying to creat a degraded fender Rhodes sound or anything lofi. Clients won’t ‘ask’ for it necessarily just in the same way that they won’t ask for multiband compression for example.
I have a few denise audio plugins, they're OK but I typically don't use em much.
I use dragonfire a lot
i sometimes add hiss to elements when i'm creating "samples" for resampling in other projects
Website doesn't even work! Can't even make an account sadly :/
what a weird dust wind
8:44 I knew you weren't from around here! :D
I would never add continuous static hiss to a track. But I could see myself using a dynamic hiss with its volume proportional to the track amplitute to give some extra character to the sound source.
There are many creative uses for the hiss.
I have a few of Denise Audio plugins….they’re cool
Dude I just saw a commercial for a local studio of mine in a very small city in Ohio hahah I actually applied to intern there. Haha crazy good for them
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Push pulling high end was one way to reduce tape his back in the old days. an early noise reduction technique.
It would have helped greatly if the plug in had been presented with the kind of music that actually calls for such treatment instead of high gloss pop where it is mostly of no use and can't work its magic. Also it would have been interesting if it had been compared to pedals like Cooper Generation Loss.
A lot of these are used nearly exclusively on lofi music, which already has noise and sfx added in, you're adding ambience in this case. Even the wow and flutter could be best used on keyboards or pads as sound design, putting it on a master would be extreme. Great video but I'd say other reviewers would have much better use of this plugin
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It's cool using Dada Life's Endless Smile to layer cooler noise sounds
Bad Tape 2 or RC-20 Retro Color?
Please review space control by Luca Pretolesi and Hardwell
Hiss is useful for sound design for SFX. I would use this for creating sound effects, but not for a music production.
Hey, we dub techno guys love hiss...it's nicely when it's modulated by lfo's on filters and stuff.
Please Review Cradles new The God Particle Plugin!!!!
Bro...we're both from the same planet !😉
Never mind the plugin, I really like that track!
Please, please say who it is, and whether it is commercially available!
New Darude track
@@AlfonsoMuchacho Well - I certainly asked for that, didn't I :-)
Hey Wytse, how come you rarely put the plugin you're actually reviewing in the title? Or is it simply for the subtle clickbait :)
I don't mind the clickbait, but it would be nice if he could change the titles after a few weeks
I’m actually doing that
@@Whiteseastudio i didnt scroll far enough oops
29Euro for the upgrade seems a little steep to me. 19 maybe, but 29 seems a little pricey.
This is clearly designed for those who never had to deal with tape's shortcomings.
Still waiting for the holy grail tape emulation plugin. My late father was a musician and he took me and my brother to every recording session in the late 70's up to the early 90's. The sound I remember from the big old analog recorders ( for example an Ampex tape on a 24 track MCI ) was so warm and thick, almost creamy with pleasant highs. I do remember that sound very vividly like the way many control rooms were full of smoke as most engineers were smoking back then. None of the current emulation plugins imparts THAT sound. On tracks like Dreams by Fleetwood Mac you still hear a little of that magic. Mostly on Vinyl or cassette tape but even slightly on CD or streaming services.
That sound is the sound of many pieces of analog gear/transformers as well as tape. Not tape alone. Check out airwindows plugins, they’re the most analog sounding
Hey man I highly reccomend you to check out the psp masterq2!
It is the best sounding mastering Eq I've ever heard.
Cheers!
Better than the Softube Weiss EQ1? And Softube Tape boost on its High Freq Trim feature knob???!
@@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY I've got to admit that I haven't heard those yet!
But I can assure you that the psp has an absolutely incredible quality of sound. It just sounds so frickin good, it's really hard to explain. Definitely different than any other mastering eq Ive tried, and tha includes TDR, Brainworx, Fabfilter and many more. It also has an included limiting stage with multiple different algorhythms and one of the smoothest stereowidening knobs I know. Only thing I miss is a Realtime spectrum analyzer and the M/S is kinda wonky.
I postet this because of the Pulsar Massive Video since the psp and the pulsar have a somewhat similar approach.
The Pulsar has slightly better controlls imo, but the sound quality of the psp is superior.
Btw Softube makes really good plugins but some of them are not worth the money in my opinion.
magnical?
Yeeeah... why with the 'hiss'? Jus'... don't get it either. 🤔
adding a nice noise floor to your track can be great. for example, disclosure always have a background tape hiss/noise v v low in the mix. Wytse's opinion is just that, an opinion
What is your home planet?
Hiss.. Using this for sound design makes sense. You need to make something sound like its old and shitty say a TV or someone playing back a cassette tape or VHS..
why no one make DAC sound emulator with same sound stage from warm Roland workstations or something, all milking the same cow
I remember the time when I had a JV1000 keyboard. It had a different sort of polished but deep sound to it. I would love to have an emulation of that.
I have a denise pack thats decent though i never use it. This plugin seems pointless to what i need and already have
4:57 It sounds like a toilet refilling after you flushed it
A quick Luke
check out The God Particle next
pls do the god particle next
I understand these titles might generate interrest but on the other hand anyone searching for reviews wont find the vids... No hate tho, just a suggestion.
Sqeual = Bias adjust? but without adjust...
did you just say u want to repair ur plugin with a digital screwdriver? that doesn't sound like something you'd say at all since ur usually getting all worked up if theres screws or anything useless but fancy in the ui lmaooo, big fan tho
yo Witsey. This time you NAILCOLORED the SNAKE OIL very great, and yes it's as always DASAND - RUDESTORM!
It's always interesting when a plugin designer puts something together which includes all the tape machine noises that for decades all recording engineers bemoaned. Like Wytse, I would never intentionally add any of that to a track or mix.
Denise nuts
Best advice - switching off hiss 👍
Pitbull: 1:32
awesome breakdown as usual
nails are NOT SNAKE OIL !! big deal if you color your nails
€ 47,19 right now
Sorry, we need to talk about Darude’s atrocious use of an E in the melody right on the third chord which is a B major. WTaF? Sounds horrible! Use B minor or Eb in the melody! Or something.
'magic was in the MAGnetICs' always was dude, push pull, attract repel.
I have the denise plugins and I tried desperately to like them, but I just couldn't like them. They aren't well-designed imo, like the gui of all their plugins is too similar, and they sound less affective than a lot of my other plugins I use in my arsenal. These plugins would probably be alright for a new producer who's looking for cheap but subtle effects to play with in their more minimal productions.
LoL @ Hiss (stupid) (Some of you guys know what I mean!)
*RC-20 Retro Color*
Just compare
Millennials will know :DDDDD
Nice nails! ;-)
couldnt get pass the nails bro
God Particle. Review that one.
Wyste! Please check out The God Particle plugin! I smell snake oil but I can't be sure. Your expertise is needed!
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“Kill it with fire…” ♥️
There are so many plugins you have not reviewed yet and then you review new versions of some plugins for second time, it is getting repetitive.
Not every software developer offers it's plugins for review.
only came here to liten to darude's sandstorm...
Get a tape player.