People can watch these all day for inspiration but if you don't garner your own skills.. this will not fully come full circle.......there are no short cuts ...one must put the work in at all times
I’m producing my first album and I came across your Jayden Joshua videos and I bought the God particle and spectre right away. And then even after that your videos did such a good job explaining I set even more time aside because you made this shit seem cool like mixing basics. I owe a good portion of my progression to you. Thanks man.
great video, been obsessed with jaycen's mixing techniques for more than a year now, made notes and everythinng, he kept on changing his mix template or alter a few things, when he mixed 'Malamente' by Rosalía, he was running all of his drums and 808s through a single drum bus with those eight instances of nls along with rbass,sdh and blackbox, then on the next workshop, he was using separate buses with nls for 808s, he stated that this gave him more control over his 808, plus there used to be rcompressor in his 808s bus to control the envelope further more, he was no longer running his hi percs through the drum bus, only kick and snares, thats how he has much more control over those elements, also he uses low shelf and high shelf combination of eq around 1-1.5k to take out the weight added by 8 instances of nls
Ive seen the episode. Its always been through seperate aux tracks the Nls are just routed as master buses ( C drum M ) - the M stands for master but are used as a Master parallel bus to the original ( C drums ) which is no different from a normal bus..... which is used for parallel compression. Its just mixed into the orginal ( C drum ) which is mixed separately and blended. Thats why 1 bus is done to 0dbs and another will be -1dbs or lower. Each seperate drum sample is also proccessed which goes into the ( C drums ) then to all drum bus. Best level of thinking cause if you over do the effects or screw a sample up. You are able to sort it out at any stage. Jaycen Joshua template is like a ribbed and dotted condom. Gives all the excitement with a saftey neck.
@@user-rq2vx4ln8n hey bro no the 808s and bases are all mastered on seperate channels.... And routed to the drum and bass channels. Only the drums and kick go into the C DRUM channel. 808s and basses have the same set up at the C Drums but they are all rooted to the drum and bass bus. Hope that helps
@@user-rq2vx4ln8nHi hats and percs are also separated into there own and mastered and routed away from c drums. They are rooted to the all drums bus.... if you actually watch jaycen joshua videos on you tube and see the settings properly.. the C drum M buses. All M buses are just a parallel buses so they do not create a seperate signal.... The M buses with the NLS buses is to mimick out board gear so your basically going into the nls C drum M buses before you hit the normal C drum bus...
@@user-rq2vx4ln8n ive already created the exact template in fruityloops as i understand the process properly unlike the guy whos making these clips and does not have a clue.
I was at a talk he gave about mixing drums and bass, he's using soothe 2 to sidechain the kick to the bass for more clarity. He was doing like a full 15db of reduction, fastest attack and release, 100% wet.
My guess for the mysterious "SUBWOOFER" aux : a simple bandpass tuned to the fundamental frequency of the kick or bass - for the bass, you'd need to automate the fq to stay in tune Dan Worall made a great video about this technic. Tony Hoffer used this technic too in his mix for M83, with a resonnant lowpass (moogerfooger LP) to give that "oomph" to the the 606 kick.
Great video, thanks for this! Incredibly useful info. A note: At 4:33 you say to put the trim down 7 db, but I think you meant -1.7 db. That's what the knob setting is looking like.
To Clarify he only sends the kick and snare through this processing. Hi hats and other percs go to the to hi end percs aux. also the nls buss is 2b idk why I said 7 😅
Jesus Christ. I jus found your channel like not too long ago & bro the amount of value in your videos is unmatched. Thank you. keep doin what you're doin G blessup 🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥❤ GOAT fr
Amazing content! Please can you break down that panning part at 5:23 in the comments? I didn’t quite get it. I’m Trying to experiment with the technique in studio one.
@@shitpains Well, not to get it back 'in the middle', but rather to get the left and right channels matching with their output because his drums are stereo.
great video as always dude! I researched the same stuff just last week the timing is crazyy Also no offense or anything, but i think at 4:34 the trim is down like 2db, not 7
I actually have a NLS bus preset I made after watching that same stream but I never use it, when I do it's on parallel. I didn't piece it all together like you did here damn man you really doing a work for the community. It's pretty complex though. Don't know if it's worth it, have you given it a try for your stuff?
George and guys I just want to understand, if we think in Ableton aux is group bus not sends right? He is using nls and c drums as bus group not sends or return? (Thanks for your all videos bro)
As an ableton user, I'm confused about the routing. Aux is essentially a send and return track, right? So the NLS aux (C Drums M) is also paralleled, returning it's signal back to C Drums or to the 2-bus?
As bizarre as the '8 instances of NLS in series' thing is, it does kind of reveal a bit of what's going on under the hood for that plugin. It feels like a smile curve eq, plus some extra sustain in the low end and subtle saturation.
those 8 instances does wonders to the drums if you put on right levels, been using it on drums on my beats, but stopped using it since last couple of beats as it puts alot of pressure on my potato cpu
Quick question Does JJ gain stage by changing auxs send volume, or by sending at zero db and pull the aux track volume back ? Thanks for your work man 👍🙏🫶
great content man! is there any way you can balance your audio? your narration mic is about 10db quieter than average YT volume, and the livestream/IG vids you use are just as quiet. and then you'll have a video clip come in and blow up my speakers at 10-15db louder. thanks dude!
only thing i found close to the heat setting for all my none protools users is the soft tube console 1 using the 9000j emulation put the drive on 3.5 and the charter on 6 thank me later
Is the drum mixing teplate part of the ultimate effects template below? The old link is dead and I don't see the drum mixing templated as part of the bundle of templates there.
just make a kick/snare group with the nls, then group that and add the c drums. do the same for the 808 and or bass. group those together to the drum n bass bus with the clipper on, then group all your percs, then group all of those to "all drums". i use a plugin called HOFA 4U meter/pan to do the same panning on the c drums and boom c group
i have a question, i don use prootols how you make the chain, i mean every chanel like all drums and c drums and drum and bass you root all your drums into a channel that is all drums next you root thta all drums channel to C drums and like that ? or you just are adding the effects to the channel like you like a parallel compression ? i dont know if i am clear
what instruments are on the drums buss? kick , snare , hi hats? open hats? perc? also does he process the drums individually first? or after the drum buss
is heat summing all the tracks using it and changing the harmonics based on that? or is it like a separate saturator on each track you can toggle on/off, pre/post?@@georgetmusic
@@georgetmusic thank you so much. What is the “c drum bus?” Is there a video or resource that breaks down the basics of how buses and auxs should be used (like how many you should have for drums for example). It gets a little confusing.
For the Sub channel, is that running in parallel from the ORIGINAl dry signal of the Kick and Snare before going into the NLS bus? Or parallel post NLS bus?
Do you think that using the Lindell 80 Series channel strip with random TMT on each track in the Drum Bus and on the Drum Bus itself is similar to using the NLS that way it is used in this video?
So im not using pro tools so can you or anyone explain the exact signal flow. I kinda got confused where the signalr starts and where it goes after. does everything come in into the NLS BUS Channel or is that at the end. etc. Would aprewciated
just make a group with the nls and then group that group again and make c drums, same for the 808 bus and bass bus. then group all of those groups and its the drum n bass bus. then group that with the rest of the percussion and call that final bus the all drums. use HOFA U4 panner and set R86 for the panning on the c drums and 808 and bass
@@maxgreen4535 I am just now seeing this lol dang. Thanks. I created a NLS , group rack and just put it on the source that I need, freeze and flatten to save CPU. I use a utility pan but why would you recommend HOFA U4 panner ? Ill read about it as well. Thanks
@@jermaineinoue4919 jaycen joshua Will release his new drumbus plugin 22 september i believe. That replaces all the nls and drum bus I hope. I rarely use this myself tbh. Didnt make my mixes better than my own template
i think he doesn't run the drums on the 1073 anymore and i asked on the 2nd ig live mixing showcasing the TGP if he still uses it and he said the UAD 1073 sounds so close and he said it in a funny voice lol
George T man... you don't understand how important you've become to the community. Keep doing your thing bro.
Totally
Completly agree
Facts
pray for george - they gone be comin !
Jaycen if you're reading, give this kid an interview! He deserves it!
People can watch these all day for inspiration but if you don't garner your own skills.. this will not fully come full circle.......there are no short cuts ...one must put the work in at all times
I’m producing my first album and I came across your Jayden Joshua videos and I bought the God particle and spectre right away. And then even after that your videos did such a good job explaining I set even more time aside because you made this shit seem cool like mixing basics. I owe a good portion of my progression to you. Thanks man.
great video, been obsessed with jaycen's mixing techniques for more than a year now, made notes and everythinng, he kept on changing his mix template or alter a few things, when he mixed 'Malamente' by Rosalía, he was running all of his drums and 808s through a single drum bus with those eight instances of nls along with rbass,sdh and blackbox, then on the next workshop, he was using separate buses with nls for 808s, he stated that this gave him more control over his 808, plus there used to be rcompressor in his 808s bus to control the envelope further more, he was no longer running his hi percs through the drum bus, only kick and snares, thats how he has much more control over those elements, also he uses low shelf and high shelf combination of eq around 1-1.5k to take out the weight added by 8 instances of nls
Ive seen the episode. Its always been through seperate aux tracks the Nls are just routed as master buses ( C drum M ) - the M stands for master but are used as a Master parallel bus to the original ( C drums ) which is no different from a normal bus..... which is used for parallel compression. Its just mixed into the orginal ( C drum ) which is mixed separately and blended. Thats why 1 bus is done to 0dbs and another will be -1dbs or lower. Each seperate drum sample is also proccessed which goes into the ( C drums ) then to all drum bus. Best level of thinking cause if you over do the effects or screw a sample up. You are able to sort it out at any stage. Jaycen Joshua template is like a ribbed and dotted condom. Gives all the excitement with a saftey neck.
@@unityinfusionmedia9102 is the 808 also in the C DRUM bus ??
@@user-rq2vx4ln8n hey bro no the 808s and bases are all mastered on seperate channels.... And routed to the drum and bass channels. Only the drums and kick go into the C DRUM channel. 808s and basses have the same set up at the C Drums but they are all rooted to the drum and bass bus. Hope that helps
@@user-rq2vx4ln8nHi hats and percs are also separated into there own and mastered and routed away from c drums. They are rooted to the all drums bus.... if you actually watch jaycen joshua videos on you tube and see the settings properly.. the C drum M buses. All M buses are just a parallel buses so they do not create a seperate signal.... The M buses with the NLS buses is to mimick out board gear so your basically going into the nls C drum M buses before you hit the normal C drum bus...
@@user-rq2vx4ln8n ive already created the exact template in fruityloops as i understand the process properly unlike the guy whos making these clips and does not have a clue.
George you're an amazing human being. Thank you for everything you've done and all that you continue to do.
Orion is now a whole single plug-in. S/o to everyone who understands that this video is basically the recipe for Orion the plug-in.
I was at a talk he gave about mixing drums and bass, he's using soothe 2 to sidechain the kick to the bass for more clarity. He was doing like a full 15db of reduction, fastest attack and release, 100% wet.
This is gold dude! You're the Sherlock Holmes of mixing techniques. Absolute legend 🤟
Hey George! ITS HERE! WE HERE! O R I O N. I’m legit rewatching this to brush up on the knowledge. U da 🐐 (kaboooom)
another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - he uses the sidechain on the Shadow Hills
My guess for the mysterious "SUBWOOFER" aux : a simple bandpass tuned to the fundamental frequency of the kick or bass - for the bass, you'd need to automate the fq to stay in tune
Dan Worall made a great video about this technic.
Tony Hoffer used this technic too in his mix for M83, with a resonnant lowpass (moogerfooger LP) to give that "oomph" to the the 606 kick.
I forgot to say thank you for your videos, great content !!
I luv your channel bro. Keep up the good work man we appreciate the time you put into these videos
The sauce of this channel is impeccable.
Great video once again! One thing you forgot to mention is that he uses the soft clip saturator around 7-9%
If you made templates for ableton man I'd for sure pay good money for it!!! Appreciate the videos you're a legend
Great video, thanks for this! Incredibly useful info.
A note: At 4:33 you say to put the trim down 7 db, but I think you meant -1.7 db. That's what the knob setting is looking like.
Yes I made the mistake it’s supposed to be 2
To Clarify he only sends the kick and snare through this processing. Hi hats and other percs go to the to hi end percs aux. also the nls buss is 2b idk why I said 7 😅
Not sure it would work for everyone, for house music you send kick and bass to a buss separated from snare/hihats/percs
I'm still confused why he pans the right side to 86. Does NLS Buss cause phase shift?
So, u said that all this processing in video only for a kick and snare, right?
@@aoss28good question 😂 I actually want to know.
Hi.... Pls your link for the template is not working pls
The trim is down -2db on the 7th NLS. Great vid always T 👌🏾
Jesus Christ. I jus found your channel like not too long ago & bro the amount of value in your videos is unmatched. Thank you. keep doin what you're doin G blessup 🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥❤ GOAT fr
This was great, thanks George. Glad to see you setting up a way to make this more sustainable for yourself too
Many blessings to your life and career brodie, learned so much from your content!
Amazing content! Please can you break down that panning part at 5:23 in the comments? I didn’t quite get it. I’m Trying to experiment with the technique in studio one.
I didnt quite get it, maybe someone can share it with us
@@Somedei @OTea The NLS spreads things across the stereo image, almost randomly, so you have to meddle with the pan to get it back to the middle.
@@shitpains Well, not to get it back 'in the middle', but rather to get the left and right channels matching with their output because his drums are stereo.
The GOAT strikes again with his god like knowledge spreading. Bruh. Thank You so much
Best channel for mixing and mastering!
Is it possible to show the map of the aux buses how they would be routed in another DAW like in Logic for example like which aux bus goes into which?
exactly Im confused cause I dont use pro tools
I have the same question, Logic user myself and very confused
I actually just figured it out HMU if you still need help
sheesh- this some advanced stuff here. very in-depth look. ty bro
great video as always dude! I researched the same stuff just last week the timing is crazyy
Also no offense or anything, but i think at 4:34 the trim is down like 2db, not 7
It is I just said 7 for some reason
I'm a gear freak but the first few seconds of these made me go: this dude is a gear ninja wtf? freezing frame over some blurry knobs damnnn
I actually have a NLS bus preset I made after watching that same stream but I never use it, when I do it's on parallel. I didn't piece it all together like you did here damn man you really doing a work for the community. It's pretty complex though. Don't know if it's worth it, have you given it a try for your stuff?
Amazing amazing work compiling all this George!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
love your passion and i love the way your quality is improoving i see you george. Much Love from Germany
Glad you enjoy it!
Big up George T! A hero amongst men
Thank you for your work! I can guarantee, that if you ever do a video explaing the routing and how to emulate this in other daws you will go viral.
New link for template?
Oh my God (particle), this is amazing content!
George and guys I just want to understand, if we think in Ableton aux is group bus not sends right? He is using nls and c drums as bus group not sends or return? (Thanks for your all videos bro)
everything except the transformers are groups. the transformers can be made in a effect rack where you can blend it with the og signals
What the final gain after all the process of the drums ?
As an ableton user, I'm confused about the routing. Aux is essentially a send and return track, right? So the NLS aux (C Drums M) is also paralleled, returning it's signal back to C Drums or to the 2-bus?
just make a group with the nls and then group that group again and make c drums
@GeorgeTMusic we need this template for other daws like logic, studio one and Fl studio
As bizarre as the '8 instances of NLS in series' thing is, it does kind of reveal a bit of what's going on under the hood for that plugin. It feels like a smile curve eq, plus some extra sustain in the low end and subtle saturation.
those 8 instances does wonders to the drums if you put on right levels, been using it on drums on my beats, but stopped using it since last couple of beats as it puts alot of pressure on my potato cpu
Great video as always man!
Quick question
Does JJ gain stage by changing auxs send volume, or by sending at zero db and pull the aux track volume back ?
Thanks for your work man 👍🙏🫶
Do you now gain staging is Not only about the aux ?
great content man! is there any way you can balance your audio? your narration mic is about 10db quieter than average YT volume, and the livestream/IG vids you use are just as quiet. and then you'll have a video clip come in and blow up my speakers at 10-15db louder. thanks dude!
only thing i found close to the heat setting for all my none protools users is the soft tube console 1 using the 9000j emulation put the drive on 3.5 and the charter on 6 thank me later
George Teeee🙏🏽
Amazing video, thx George!
You sir... are a god send
Protect George T at all cost !!
GEORGE YOURE A BEAST BROTHER
Thank you !
Is the drum mixing teplate part of the ultimate effects template below?
The old link is dead and I don't see the drum mixing templated as part of the bundle of templates there.
Engineers don’t get the respect they truly deserve. I can create great music but I can’t mix good.
Thank you! Just the same I am not good at creating music, but sure can make it sound better!
I have your same problem. I can produce my ass off, but I hate mixing.....And so bad at it lol
Could you possibly go into depth about the routing for all of this. From signal to six, to buss. All the way through
Big Brain video George Thank you!
George you are the GOAT
🙌
Does anybody know how hard he hits the first NLS Buss? The amount of gain staging is pretty important to the sound of the saturation
good question. i think last time i mixed with his template about 0VU sounded good. could have been +1 VU, just try
@@breezyoakk 0 VU = -18dbs ???
Hi George. Thanks for this video and all your efforts. Is this template still available? It looks like the wave page isn’t working
Thank you George 🙌
wish there was a ableton template for this
just make a kick/snare group with the nls, then group that and add the c drums. do the same for the 808 and or bass. group those together to the drum n bass bus with the clipper on, then group all your percs, then group all of those to "all drums". i use a plugin called HOFA 4U meter/pan to do the same panning on the c drums and boom c group
Thanks for the vid George T! So only the kick and snare go through the NLS bus (DRUMS M) and then into C DRUMS? Hats and percs go through a diff AUX?
Yes they go through hi end percs which goes straight to all drums
George T....got DANG....KABOOOOOM!
George T you are a good man
the nls on mono or stero ?
stereo, the drums are left and right for width
insane work G!! Tnx!!!!!!!!!!
@George thanks for this vid! Do you have any video showing how much Jaycen crushes his kick with the MV2 on his parallel? Thanks
yo thanks so much george. appreciate the sauce bro
Any time!
i have a question, i don use prootols
how you make the chain, i mean
every chanel like all drums and c drums and drum and bass
you root all your drums into a channel that is all drums
next you root thta all drums channel to C drums and like that ?
or you just are adding the effects to the channel like you like a parallel compression ?
i dont know if i am clear
that information is needed, no one explains it
anther thing to add might be how he uses it. Does all the drums go trough the c drums? Or it is just kick and snare?
Dang I forgot about this completely 🤦♂️. Yes it’s just kick and snare
what instruments are on the drums buss? kick , snare , hi hats? open hats? perc?
also does he process the drums individually first? or after the drum buss
hey the drum mixing template link doesnt work
Need this template for Logic Pro 😔
i got it if you need it
@@chrisdavis9334 pls 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@chrisdavis9334 yo bro this is late but u think u could send me this?? Would really appreciate it cuz this video is confusing at certain points
What’s y’all’s email
@@chrisdavis9334 hi bro, whats is yu email? thnaks
On the 8 NLS busses, you said he sometimes turns off 2 and 6, is this both at once or separately?
So after the 8 NLS busses, he uses a pan plugin and HPF but what does he set the HPF at?
When using Heat, are the vocals bypassed or just not on Pre?
Vocals are bypassed
is heat summing all the tracks using it and changing the harmonics based on that? or is it like a separate saturator on each track you can toggle on/off, pre/post?@@georgetmusic
I know this might not be important to many of you... but can somebody PLEASE tell me what the C in "C Drums" stands for? I'd really appreciate it
Not sure. I am interested aswell
C for current & M for monitoring
What does he mean by “mic” and “spike” when he keeps repeating that?
They are the different types of drive in the waves nls buss plug-in. Mike , Spike, Nevo
@@georgetmusic thank you so much. What is the “c drum bus?” Is there a video or resource that breaks down the basics of how buses and auxs should be used (like how many you should have for drums for example). It gets a little confusing.
Thanks a lot for the video🤝
wow Jaycen gained lots ofweight
For the Sub channel, is that running in parallel from the ORIGINAl dry signal of the Kick and Snare before going into the NLS bus? Or parallel post NLS bus?
Was looking forward to grabbing the mix template you provided. It won’t send to me…
Do you think that using the Lindell 80 Series channel strip with random TMT on each track in the Drum Bus and on the Drum Bus itself is similar to using the NLS that way it is used in this video?
What the peak for the all drums?
In db i mean
Is there supposed to be a super massive sub when I stack the NLS plugins upon the first hit?
You might have to clarify what you mean a bit
Thanks George! Any word on his new Orion plugin?
cool! I feel a little better about my drum mix. I use 3 sends sometimes 4.
Plugin alliance has a neve pre with 2 channels so it's easier to replicate it with that plugin
is that the Lindel 80 Series? might have to cop that..
@@thomastellem yh it is
@@fw.jordey3852 sweet. ima get that while it’s on sale still !
so are these auxes like a send which he sends each drum with a different percentage ? or what
So im not using pro tools so can you or anyone explain the exact signal flow. I kinda got confused where the signalr starts and where it goes after. does everything come in into the NLS BUS Channel or is that at the end. etc. Would aprewciated
No Ableton Template ?
just make a group with the nls and then group that group again and make c drums, same for the 808 bus and bass bus. then group all of those groups and its the drum n bass bus. then group that with the rest of the percussion and call that final bus the all drums. use HOFA U4 panner and set R86 for the panning on the c drums and 808 and bass
@@maxgreen4535 I am just now seeing this lol dang. Thanks. I created a NLS , group rack and just put it on the source that I need, freeze and flatten to save CPU. I use a utility pan but why would you recommend HOFA U4 panner ? Ill read about it as well. Thanks
@@jermaineinoue4919 jaycen joshua Will release his new drumbus plugin 22 september i believe. That replaces all the nls and drum bus I hope. I rarely use this myself tbh. Didnt make my mixes better than my own template
Amazing bro
You The Man!!! 💯
✨
Is the bass included in the drum bus in his template?
What about the density setting on the Blackbox? One of the key features that completely changes how it sounds
Whatever it defaults too. When in doubt tho just experiment to see what sounds good
Do you have a drum template for windows users? Not really sure how to open the file after unzipping
GOAT
can you repost the template please?
Haha nice definitely did ur research 🙌🏻
Maybe a dumb question. After the C Drum go to Drum n bass, what is the output for Dum n bass aux?
ALL DRUMS
Keep going man!
i think he doesn't run the drums on the 1073 anymore and i asked on the 2nd ig live mixing showcasing the TGP if he still uses it and he said the UAD 1073 sounds so close and he said it in a funny voice lol
Yea he doesn’t he is now 100% in the box should have made the clearer