Unfortunately with her attitude we are heading for catastrophe… As a Brit i would like to see a world where we in the West are prepared to peacefully co - exist with our supposed enemies/ competitors… AA and the like seem to want us to go to war to maintain the West’s hegemony … that will mean the death of most of us and our children…. I know what I’d prefer …
What a painful one-track mind diatribe THAT was! How many times did she raise any point about Washington’s responsibility into how we got into this geopolitical mess? « Israel was founded as a secular state », she goes on to claim? Oh yeah, right… it’s more « nuanced » than that… it’s « complicated »
I'm living in Poland and the amount of Poles that have asked me my opinion about her. I haven't watched this yet. I hope the interviewer confronts this issue. Edit: I read the comments and I decided that I've heard enough of this shit and don't need to watch.
Here you go 54:54 Absolutely terrible. She's like "yeah, it kinda breaks the argument of rules-based world order i've been talking about for an hour but... Idk, just not a priority". I don't blame the interviewer, he tried the best to approach common ground.
I dunno, so many very young so called fighting men, been going on since human history began, lost to war. Either lost unalived but others come back shell shocked and damaged to pass on the terror to their wives and children. When will the wars stop, most likely never as we are chimps. We hate each other more than we love our own children. Eventually, there will come a time when there are not enough resources to rebuild. What then, back to the stone age?
@@selmaunsley6683 I agree, but to be fair Hallam was being very controlling and nearly-belligerent at times. Though I do feel Aaron was overawed by the above journalist here.
This will be interesting! Everyone's favourite Neocon warmonger after Victoria Nuland. Remember to thank her particularly for the needless and avoidable carnage in Ukraine for me!
How does your brain make it work, to make a difference between Palestine and Ukraine? US Imperialism bad, therefore Russian imperialism good? How come Putin had no choice, but Netanyahu is responsible for the escalation?
Notice how Applebaum always "grabs the mic" so her narrative dominates, and runs down the interview clock, on topics which could counter her arguments. For example: On Russia's transition from Soviet Union, and Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Notice how Applebaum always "grabs the mic" so her narrative dominates, and runs down the interview clock, on topics which could counter her arguments. For example: On Russia's transition from Soviet Union, and Israel's genocide in Gaza.
@@code2valuethe idea that ‘liberal’ democracies are actually any more free or liberal than Russia (they just hide the lack of freedom a little better).
Anne Applebaum is completely wrong. It is in fact a world governed by international law, based on national sovereignty as opposed to the 'rules based' international order that is a euphemism for American Hegemony that Russia, China, et. al. seek. And the idea the the country supporting Israeli genocide gives or has ever given a damn about human rights is absurd.
Well Putin definitely doesn't care about any international law either, bad example. But I agree that the "West" is incredibly hypocritical, and the unconditional support for ethnoisrael is unforgivable and will remain a dark stain on any credibility we wish we had for decades to come 😢
but international law has proven itself to be fairly powerless and the "rules based order" has become dominant. the situation is what it is. international law never really existed. it was a paper thin veil.
Of course it is the UN's function to protect Israel, Palestine, etc and also under the 2005 Responsibility to Protect, citizens of countries. But Russia was illegally allowed to sit, and seems to be a tool to stop it from functioning.
That was a waste of time, I don't want to listen to that kind of reasoning anymore, I've listened to it my whole life, I can't cope with it anymore 🤢😵 and Aaron didn't even really counter, I'm going to unfollow Novara if it continues to support these "neoconservative/neoliberal/warmonger/regime changer" (or whatever you want to call it) in any way by unrequitedly giving them a platform
Really Novara ? Could not sit though this to the end…..so so so disappointing that you would let this propagandist spout this rubbish with no pushback.
Cause it is NM, I didn't bother even checking the headline and was cooking at the start of the interview where he mentioned her name. Made it 27 mins in before I was like "wtf is this 1990s American imperialism shit?!"
@@alexhanson6577 I was very confused that this woman was platformed by NM. I’m all for representation of different points of view, but allowing straight up propaganda with little to no pushback was shocking. I expect this from Laura Keunssberg not NM.
Shame on Novara, Shame on Aaron and Shame on me for financially contributing to THIS. 40 odd minutes of platforming a sociopath; with no pushback, no adversarial question, and quite frankly a dereliction of your duty as a journalist! were you starstruck, gushing over her being prize winner, which quite frankly means nothing since she's a agent of the Empire, so its just a trinket did you have to compromise to get the interview? in which case, WHATS THE FKIN POINT? im so angry but more disappointed right now you owe me a apology or at the very least a explanation
It IS necessary & democratic to expose her, presumably heartfelt, opinions. But, beyond the softball challenges included in the interview, it is necessary to itemize the glaring hypocrisy of her misplaced self-confidence with an articulate rebuttal. Progressive people need to understand & find ways to combat the arrogant neoliberalist enemy, for which she is an elitist poster-girl.
So much projection here. Much of what she says applies equally to the US and the West. Politicians in the US are mostly focused on their own money and power. See the effect of the war criminal Bibi Netanyahu on congress with the standing ovations. The fact that autocrats turn up their noses at Western values is because we don't respect our own. The rule of law is not respected in the US and the lack of respect for Palestinian lives by the US is horrendous. The US has invaded multiple countries and has interfered with lots of elections around the world. The autocrats see how little we abide by our own values and don't think they need to abide by them either. Aaron, you needed to push back a lot more on her views.
Absolutely. As soon as she started talking about states that 1. Invade and occupy other populations 2. Think they can act with impunity 3. Have contempt for international conventions, organisations and human rights, I kept thinking 'when is Aaron going to mention Israel?'. Equally plenty of other western backed states (e.g. Saudi Arabia and it's war in Yemen) also fit this description, yet don't make it onto her list, clearly because she splits states into Western allies (good) and western opponents (bad). I'm really glad Novara are having these people on, but really need to challenge them and make them justify their double standards.
This is not want we want from independent media. We need critical informed voices not establishment journalists spouting drivel. We get this on the BBC ,major newspapers etc. Bastani is always Navara's weakest voice but he plums new depths in this interview
Novara Media getting a deserved kicking from its subscribers. The moment I saw Anne Applebaum's name, I knew it would be trouble. Not challenging her toxic views was inexcusable.
@@noodleppoodle 'buffled' 🤣 In addition to your spelling, you might also benefit from appropriate use of capitals and full stops. PS. Apologies if English is not your first language.
@@johnholmes8178 you might benefit from focusing on the content. This is YT and I am typing this up fast. This is not a formal letter tot the president. And yes English is my 3rd language.
This is shocking from Novara Media. It really looks like they've sold out. Aaron Bastani has just given a softball interview to an arch-neocon. Wasn't it just a week or two ago where NM were criticising Venezuela on their weekday evening programme? And now this. F*ck me, this is bad
This is surely an aberration and I've no idea why it happened, but it's definitely given me pause re Novara. Let's see what they continue to say going forward.
This is the most hilarious interview ever on Novara Media. She is sitting there sounding intelligent and knowledgable, spouting nonsense US propaganda that you might expect to read unquestioned at The Telegraph! I suspect that she may not have realised that Novara’s audience is probably better informed about the world than she is if this is what she believes!
One thing you got wrong there. She's way better informed about the world and especially about what's going on behind the closed doors than we are. She knows exactly what she's saying. Probably not aware to what kind of audience, but there's not much to lose, especially as it's a softball interview. She took platform to reiterate official policy and narrative, and if she sways one person in this kind of hostile territory, good. People that are on her side probably track all these engagements, collect comments, even work for these companies like yt. They estimate if there's potential for any kind of true resistance and if there is just manufacture new distraction culture war type of thing. Oh, Peterson vs Zizek 2 is coming up or Tommy Robinson or whatever.
@@moneypennysloverboy yes, cant disagree with you there. She goes around the world doing propaganda for the US and knows what she’s at for sure. It must take a special kind of chutzpah to sit there spouting total bullshit with a straight face. Have to also add, that her Nobel Prize confirms something I figured out some decades ago. The entire infrastructure of our supposed ‘liberal’ democratic organisations that purport to defend freedom and democracy has been hijacked and co-opted and corrupted by neoliberalism. NGO’s funded by the State Department, Amnesty international, the Nobel Cttee, nuclear watchdogs, the international courts and judiciary, UN organisations and even our own UK political parties have all been corrupted by US and international money…
I dont mind Novara interviewing people like AA , but the questioning of her perspective was virtually nil...that equates to just giving her a platform.
well, I won't be buying that book in a hurry! what a load of claptrap. "They don't like us" ? How about your foreign policy is designed to exclude alienate and eliminate competition.
Exactly. Saying ‘us’ as well as if our governments’ actions actually represent the people. ‘They’re definitely don’t like her, and it’s definitely not because she ‘supports human rights’.
At 26 mins, "Putin took that concept of sovereignty bla bla and he can invade anyone he wants" I had to check the speaker's nationality because an American with a gram of dignity would said that. Silly of me.
The blatant hypocrisy of the American government and its allies position regarding Ukraine vs Palestine never ceases to amaze me. It’s so in your face. They just don’t care.
@@roinevalSure. She was born in the DDR and knew Russia and you should see it in that light. Russia started to violate the Minsk agreement before the ink was even dry. When Merkel said that the Russian attitude was completely clear
Iraq would be a good question but you gave yourself away when you started about the Minsk agreements. Learn only to use your good arguments otherwise they just attack you on the bad ones
@@arjan2777 "a good question " I'm not sure a question that goes; what about, what about, what about, is a particularly good question but well done for engaging. Tiring isn't it?
She's either convinced that what she says is accurate, or she knows full well what she's doing, and she's not a very nice person. The US failed to asset strip Russia, and Putin has restored national pride. What the FBI and CIA do has more effect on more lives than what the KGB or SVR do. How Putin got rich isn't anything more than a cute distraction, like MTV's this my crib. Straight afterwards, NM should have invited reactions from Matt Kennard and John Mearsheimer. Her point of view is bad faith, rather than informative.
The U.S. did do a reasonable of asset stripping Russia which Putin put an end to. Which is why the U.S. wants regime change. What a lot of people don’t realise is that the U.S. and other Western interests are currently asset stripping Ukraine, with Zelensky’s complicity.
Mearsheimer never cared for Eastern Europeans and their agenda in all of this. He is an old man stucked in Cold War Era. Eastern Europe moved on and left Russia behind long time ago.
“Putin has restored national pride” by invading neighboring countries (notice the plural) and eliminating civil rights for LGBT folks. The world would have been a better place if he didn’t…
How Putin got rich and how corrupt that whole clique is actually gives important information about how that regime functions. No it is not unimportant.
To sum up - Applebaum basically said in the interview: "When we invade others or shred international law to bits it's no justification for others to do the same". Aaron didn't challenge the guest meaningfully on any point and also sounded very unconfident in many places where he did actually have a very good opportunity to expose Applebaum's arguments, facts, and analogies. In one place she said that Putin doesn't respect international law then in another that UN charters are idealized (we shouldn't take them too seriously)..In one instance she blames her Dictator Inc autocrats for invading smaller countries and then when confronted (very weakly) with US invasions or US ally aggressions she says "can't the world be a little bit more nuanced than that?", blaming the analogy.. Aaron lost all too many opportunities to make the interview meaningful..This way it didn't seem to
Anne says that the word 'genocide' is overused today (and we all know what she's hinting at by saying as much) and Aaron lets it go without any pushback at all - and as many other comments have noted there are plenty of other moments in this interview where Anne gets away with spewing pro-American imperialist talking points without a word of opposition. I'm pretty confused about why this interview is on Novara - I hope it's a one-off and not a sign of things to come.
@@JaimeNoro I live in the EU. US hegemony grants me privileges, including democracy, freedom of speech, social security, that I couldn't enjoy otherwise. So that's that.
Putin can stop the war any time. Just leave Ukraine. Some people have difficulty with the idea that the US can be both right and wrong on different occasions. There is nothing wrong with helping Ukraine. Ukraine should get more help
@@arjan2777 The west can stop the Genocide by stop supplying arms to Israel, and could stop Ukrainians from Dying and allow them to a peace agreement that Boris Johnson told them NO, FIGHT ON LADS
@@Blanka1100 What part of 2014 don't you understand. Nuland handing out cookies and cheering on the Extreme right in Ukraine was just a coincidence. I guess when a high ranking chinese official goes to UK and cheers on Nigel Farage marching on the hill saying China supports you, you won't complain about political interference.
@@thedarkknightReturns yeah but this is straight up propoganda. No questions regarding how invading the middle east regularly or coups in Africa and South America are democratic and liberal, or how dropping bombs on civilians is according to rule of law.
This has been my argument and even Nuland came out to talk about the USA stopping the instanbul peace agreement. Nope never heard about that says Michael and ash non stop. I thought Aaron was smarter on this. Total disappointment.
Because that one would be too easy for her and a waste of time. Russia violated the Minsk agreements from the beginning almost continuously and never even tried to implement them.
@@arjan2777 From western wiki no less *On 17 December 2021, during the prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia published a list of demands for security guarantees in the form of two draft treaties with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the United States.*
@@thorinbaneHe called that security guarantees, These were actually demands that would compromise the security of all those countries that just survived decades of soviet occupation and oppression by that organization that shaped Putin, the KGB. He wanted nato to desert these countries which it could not do. He wanted the US to give it Ukraine which it could not do. He wanted to expand his empire. Russia is a big country with a big army and nuclear weapons. Nobody wants war with Russia. If you knew anything about Europe you would understand that. Russia is safe. Russia needs no security guarantees. Everyone around Russia is scared of it. Russia has no security problems, Russia is a security problem for everyone else. Countries like Ukraine need security guarantees. Russia does not.
@@thorinbane I remember. What it boiled down to is that the US should give Ukraine to Russia and remove nato protection from countries that were just liberated from decades of KGB rule. Because a big country with a big army and nuclear weapons thought it needed security guarantees. Russia does not have security issues. Russia is a security issue for all countries that border it.
For heavens sake, why is it people like Anne Applebaum are quick to denounce Russian aggression but choose to ignore Israeli state crimes. Why didn't Mr.Bastani question this?
@@AntonyJonesit’s not Whataboutism or a logical fallacy to point out how someone’s world view is one sided, or blinkered, or inconsistent etc. If you want to bang on about logical fallacies then perhaps you should make an effort to understand them first …
Aaron didn't even challenge Applebaum's sanctimonious appeal to condemnation of Russia's invading the sovereignty of Ukraine with the illegal and immoral US invasion of Iraq went years earlier. Putin could rightly say that the invasion of Ukraine was an imitation of the US invasion of Iraq, and that you simply cannot play this game amongst nuclear armed powers without things going very awry eventually..
If democracy everywhere is the goal then our governments have to ditch being hypocrites. I believe capitalism and democracy are ultimately incompatible. Accommodations are, at times of social unrest, made and we get health care, education, pensions etc. But it doesn't last. Just long enough to pacify an unsettled majority then it winds back. If Democracy is the aim then restructuring our economies is a must.
18 minutes in and I am bowled over by the sheer density of propaganda and revisionism being delivered here. Her portrayal of the Russian 90s in particular is so warped
Particularly adroit the way she portrays any criticism of the West's catastrophic role in the Russian transition, or acknowledgment of the massive missed opportunities there, as actually a West-centric view. "I, the non-chauvinist neutral party, can explain how it's actually all the Russians' fault, all of it!" lmao how enlightened! 😂
The thing is she very probably believes it. Like Christian fundamentalists and white supremacists, neocons don't get to be neocons by adhering to a point of view that actually necessarily reflects reality.
Please interview Jeffrey Sachs (the Harvard professor Anne was alluding to) about his account of Russia's development and how the US stymied its economy as opposed to Poland.
Novara fell off, from journalism to grifting for the neoliberal bag. Genuinely disappointed. Fans should connect together and build their own platform where people like this do not get airtime with no pushback, Novara is a lost cause, writing is on the wall. NM fans, lets be better, make something better. US apologia is not journalism!
How casually and superficially she drop a line on the Chinese undermining the UN, or about the genocidal intention of Putin in Ukraine -" genocide is today an abused world" -that means there is no genocide in Gaza.... Please, prof Mairsheimer, come to the rescue!
The spread of Islam is not acceptable, but the Western export of liberalism and the ideology of human rights through military interventions and economic extortion is OK? :D Was Churchill, whose policies are blamed for the 1943 famine in India, in which 3 million people died, an autocrat? Is British imperialism and tens of millions of forcibly subjugated, enslaved and murdered colonial inhabitants a reflection of a democratic or autocratic culture?
That was old style colonialism. You will find it difficult to find people in the UK agreeing with that now. Actually old style colonialism was beaten out of most European countries after the war. Except for Russia of course.
Let's have a Jeffrey Sachs interview to get a response to Applebaum's views on Russia/NATO/90s policies. He rejects that the US even sought to integrate Russia, and that the aim was to destroy Russia
She said 'I know everything about Russia because I listen to the opposition'. Just imagine someone from Russia saying 'I know everything about the UK because I listen to Tommy Robinson'. And Robinson actually represents some parts of the UK society, unlike the opposition she refers to. Those 'experts' are just ridiculous, but at the same time dangerous
Aaron didn't do a good job here. Huge fan but he let her talk about how Russia and China defy international law, but yet didn't press her on Western Illegal Invasions and Israel's genocide.
Considering the number of pro Pootin trolls in the comment section, shows how much this woman is dangerous to the authoritarian regimes around the world. Well done Anne! Your work is truly important to all us that are not in favour of the regimes she talks about!
Yes I'm sure the modern Tzar of Russia feels robbed of his measly little KGB job. I had low expectations but Anne managed to shatter them. That's impressive. The capacity of limitless self delusion is what will be death of the American empire. Anne is a prime example of this. I have no doubt that she is indeed high on her own supply and truly believes the absurd things she says.
One thing is always glaringly clear, when you listen to Scott Ritter, Max Blumenthal, Matt Kennard vs when you listen to the guest on this show. The former speak in details and concrete arguments whilst the neocons speak in generalities and vibes.
Wow! I’m a frequent viewer of your outstanding podcast and think that this interview with Anne is one of your best. I live in a part of the world directly affected by Russian aggression and feel that her insights are right on. I’m shocked by the number of disparaging comments. Looks to me like Russian bots are hard at work which can only mean that Anne’s truth-telling has gotten under someone’s skin. Please continue with these types of interviews.
BAHAHA the G side supporter is to be believed....Iol yeah terrible job by this site. They lost a lot of viewers because of this interview and rightly so.
Prof Jeffrey Sachs gave a very honest and first hand account recently of the 90s and 2000s recently for example. And he exactly explained the differences between the paths followed by Poland and the one by Russia. He was an economy advisor during the transition- a very accurate insight and not the account given here at all.
US state propagandist and apologist for capitalism. Anne Applebaum. Go ahead and read her work on the USSR and tell me she isn't some sort of asset for the US intelligence apparatus.
That's not the whole story. Try to find out about the Double Holocaust revisionists. (in short, Putin=Hitler=Stalin) To me, looks like a political sect, agressively preaching horrible nonsense, that will end up with Armageddon.
12 minutes in and I’m already nauseated. We cared about the killings, even if they didn’t. Awful people. Shame on Bastani and NM. If you can’t hold this ideologue’s feet to the fire, then what’s the purpose. I am now officially unsubscribed.
I have a lot of respect for Aaron but on this occasion, he let this guest talk alot of hypocritical liberal nonsense without much challenge. Disappointing
The media taught me to distrust the media. Modern communication allowed me to pick up the phone in the 1970s and call my relatives on the other side of the world, ask them if what I heard on 'the news' was accurate and hear a vastly different account of what transpired on their street. The media is not a disinterested player. It has political and economic agendas, can be bought and sold by wealthy individuals and advance their interests. I learned to cast a wide net when it comes to 'the news.'
My gag reflex is getting a lot of exercise watching this. Zero calling her out on the double standards: US is allowed to invade smaller countries, but Russia is not. Cool.
35:30 ‘in our minds the point of government is to create prosperity, to make a country wealthier and enrich people’. I though that government was there to ensure justice and fairness, and protect the vulnerable. I must have got that wrong.
I like Aaron talking to people with differing political positions, as objectionable as they may be. I want more Applebaums, Goodwins and Hitchens. People need to stop clutching their pearls and see it as the opportunity to sharpen their arguments. Great interview, as always.
Ash should have done this interview…I think Aaron is too accommodating and trying too hard to build concensus. This lady had no qualms talking to Russian/Iranian/Chinese corruption and lack of “values” but when mildly asked about Israel suddenly the world is “complex “ and stuttering & Aaron allows her to “end on a good note!” WTF after 2 minutes of actually putting her so called values on a test not against Russia but her allies . Hypocrisy & a waste of time.
I am quite astonished seeing this interview on this channel. And even more by the coyness with which Aaron brings up the issue of Israel's genocide and doesn't confront her when she says "Do you think the U.S. is not trying to stop the war?" as if it's so self-evident!!!
She is wrong and Russia and wrong on Israel NM is wrong on Russia and drifting to be wrong on Israel by giving a Jen I side like her a platform without pushback. Unsubb till they start using some critical reasoning. Doesn't seem to be present here.
Prepare for a sickening douse of American exceptionalism…
And blame everyone and anyone BUT the US for the our world’s problems !!!
Yep, she is promoting propaganda.
You absolutely called it !
Unfortunately with her attitude we are heading for catastrophe…
As a Brit i would like to see a world where we in the West are prepared to peacefully co - exist with our supposed enemies/ competitors…
AA and the like seem to want us to go to war to maintain the West’s hegemony … that will mean the death of most of us and our children….
I know what I’d prefer …
Excellent ...
What a painful one-track mind diatribe THAT was!
How many times did she raise any point about Washington’s responsibility into how we got into this geopolitical mess?
« Israel was founded as a secular state », she goes on to claim? Oh yeah, right… it’s more « nuanced » than that… it’s « complicated »
Painfully obtuse.
If I had a nickel everytime I heard "It's complicated" from those Israel apologists, I'd have the money to buy the whole AIPAC and some.
I don't understand why 2 non European nations "UK and USA" want Europe to start a nuclear war with Russia. Russia is European. The USA and UK are not.
Novara might as well interview Dick Cheney and Bush next to wax lyrical about USA as THE beacon of international and humanitarian law🤮
Urgh, let's see if she can reflect on the US role in the Palestinian genocide
she can't she can not, she polska !
I'm living in Poland and the amount of Poles that have asked me my opinion about her. I haven't watched this yet. I hope the interviewer confronts this issue.
Edit: I read the comments and I decided that I've heard enough of this shit and don't need to watch.
Here you go 54:54
Absolutely terrible. She's like "yeah, it kinda breaks the argument of rules-based world order i've been talking about for an hour but... Idk, just not a priority".
I don't blame the interviewer, he tried the best to approach common ground.
What genocide? Gaza's population has gone up from 64K in 1950 to 800K in 2024.
And the illegal invasion of Iraq which resulted in a million deaths
How much did novara get paid for this?
Cause Palestine not coming up while talking about genocide and rule of law is just unthinkable.
it was clearly of limits, when aaron mentioned it, she gave him a look and he moved on
the same rule of law followed by the Palestinian Authority - hamas?
Cause the Palestinian conflict really does not have anything to do with Russia.
I dunno, so many very young so called fighting men, been going on since human history began, lost to war. Either lost unalived but others come back shell shocked and damaged to pass on the terror to their wives and children. When will the wars stop, most likely never as we are chimps. We hate each other more than we love our own children. Eventually, there will come a time when there are not enough resources to rebuild. What then, back to the stone age?
@@thedarkknightReturnsYes, he couldn't really challenge this?
George Galloway gets a grilling but Anne Applebaum gets a pass, bad show 👎
@@donrayjay the JSO guy got a horrendous time from Aaron also
@@selmaunsley6683whats JSO again? can you point to that interview?
Just stop oil
I think it's worth interviewing these ghouls but I do not understand why they have such higher standards from leftists
@@selmaunsley6683 I agree, but to be fair Hallam was being very controlling and nearly-belligerent at times. Though I do feel Aaron was overawed by the above journalist here.
This will be interesting! Everyone's favourite Neocon warmonger after Victoria Nuland. Remember to thank her particularly for the needless and avoidable carnage in Ukraine for me!
How does your brain make it work, to make a difference between Palestine and Ukraine? US Imperialism bad, therefore Russian imperialism good?
How come Putin had no choice, but Netanyahu is responsible for the escalation?
Yep…. And here you will bring us proof, I’m sure!
Disgusting - I saw another interview with Applebaum - I am 2 minutes in and lets see how Aaron handles her...
Oh, don’t forget Samantha Power…
"needless and avoidable carnage in Ukraine" you say? 🧐 Avoidable by zelensky capitulating to Putin, or how exactly would that work? 😐
It's good to see that all the commenters here have instantly seen through Applebaum, or were on to her a long time ago.
- What concentration camp are they taking us to?
- I don't know, I'm not interested in politics...
Mr Bastani is totally unprepared to kick back on her American exceptionalism opinions. Pathetic so far.
Aaron is a mallowpuff to this warmonger
pathetic ???????
Notice how Applebaum always "grabs the mic" so her narrative dominates, and runs down the interview clock, on topics which could counter her arguments.
For example: On Russia's transition from Soviet Union, and Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Notice how Applebaum always "grabs the mic" so her narrative dominates, and runs down the interview clock, on topics which could counter her arguments.
For example: On Russia's transition from Soviet Union, and Israel's genocide in Gaza.
Prefer American hegemony rather than despotic Russian or authoritarian china
Be careful what you wish for
How can you allow this propagandist to sit there and spew her bullshit without aggressively pushing back?
I know right very poor performance
For the same reason Bastani willfully took part in the smear campaign against Jeremy Corbyn.
@lutherblissett3558 the latter could be the most likely scenario
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@lutherblissett3558 Don't interview them at all! What happened to this channel??
I almost had brain damage from the amount of dishonesty and misinformation she's spouting...
@@theogijoe Same 💯
What exactly? You need to be more specific.
Really, what specifically?
Same 😂 glad I’m not the only one. How have ‘western democracies’ ever held the moral high ground? 🙄
@@code2valuethe idea that ‘liberal’ democracies are actually any more free or liberal than Russia (they just hide the lack of freedom a little better).
She supported the Iraq War.
She's supported every war you could mention.
@@hughwardjackson4776 That's neocons for ya.
She is part of the problem not part of the solution.
She doesn't seem to be convincing a lot of people at this moment in time, too many have awakened now😂
@@hughwardjackson4776that’s why the world doesn’t care what she thinks anymore
Anne Applebaum is completely wrong. It is in fact a world governed by international law, based on national sovereignty as opposed to the 'rules based' international order that is a euphemism for American Hegemony that Russia, China, et. al. seek. And the idea the the country supporting Israeli genocide gives or has ever given a damn about human rights is absurd.
So true they never practice what they preach
Well Putin definitely doesn't care about any international law either, bad example. But I agree that the "West" is incredibly hypocritical, and the unconditional support for ethnoisrael is unforgivable and will remain a dark stain on any credibility we wish we had for decades to come 😢
Brilliantly said 👏🏽
but international law has proven itself to be fairly powerless and the "rules based order" has become dominant. the situation is what it is. international law never really existed. it was a paper thin veil.
Of course it is the UN's function to protect Israel, Palestine, etc and also under the 2005 Responsibility to Protect, citizens of countries. But Russia was illegally allowed to sit, and seems to be a tool to stop it from functioning.
Is she talking about The USA or Russia regarding disregard for international law?
Russia
@@ГлебВерховский-п2рTaras Botovsky cannot onto sarcasm
The USA is no different….. they the USA have there own law and sometimes worse than the rest of the civilised world.
It's all hypocrisy, the Achilles heel of the US.
That was a waste of time, I don't want to listen to that kind of reasoning anymore, I've listened to it my whole life, I can't cope with it anymore 🤢😵 and Aaron didn't even really counter, I'm going to unfollow Novara if it continues to support these "neoconservative/neoliberal/warmonger/regime changer" (or whatever you want to call it) in any way by unrequitedly giving them a platform
Cancel Culture, much?
There is a red line in British journalism. This is it.
@@GaryHamer-w5r yes, it even hurts in a way to see it so clearly 🤯brain pain
You sound like you are in a cult. lol
I'm in the cult called humanity. lol
Really Novara ? Could not sit though this to the end…..so so so disappointing that you would let this propagandist spout this rubbish with no pushback.
Cause it is NM, I didn't bother even checking the headline and was cooking at the start of the interview where he mentioned her name. Made it 27 mins in before I was like "wtf is this 1990s American imperialism shit?!"
@@alexhanson6577 I was very confused that this woman was platformed by NM. I’m all for representation of different points of view, but allowing straight up propaganda with little to no pushback was shocking. I expect this from Laura Keunssberg not NM.
@@alexhanson6577 Because it is Novara Media, I always bother checking...
Shame on Novara, Shame on Aaron and Shame on me for financially contributing to THIS. 40 odd minutes of platforming a sociopath; with no pushback, no adversarial question, and quite frankly a dereliction of your duty as a journalist!
were you starstruck, gushing over her being prize winner, which quite frankly means nothing since she's a agent of the Empire, so its just a trinket
did you have to compromise to get the interview? in which case, WHATS THE FKIN POINT?
im so angry but more disappointed right now
you owe me a apology or at the very least a explanation
Hear hear! Completely agree!
Yeh I feel like with a lot of celebrity interviews this guest had only agreed to an interview if certain topics were avoided.
remeber the George Galloway interview? Novara just puts on a 'left face' but is just status quo
Is it sensible to be exposing this to a wider audience?
Some of us have had to live with decades of cold war rhetoric. Let it all out.
I'm big enough to sort the wheat from the chaff, but thanks for the concern 😂
No
It IS necessary & democratic to expose her, presumably heartfelt, opinions. But, beyond the softball challenges included in the interview, it is necessary to itemize the glaring hypocrisy of her misplaced self-confidence with an articulate rebuttal. Progressive people need to understand & find ways to combat the arrogant neoliberalist enemy, for which she is an elitist poster-girl.
@@SD-tq1pl you want censoring?
So much projection here. Much of what she says applies equally to the US and the West. Politicians in the US are mostly focused on their own money and power. See the effect of the war criminal Bibi Netanyahu on congress with the standing ovations. The fact that autocrats turn up their noses at Western values is because we don't respect our own. The rule of law is not respected in the US and the lack of respect for Palestinian lives by the US is horrendous. The US has invaded multiple countries and has interfered with lots of elections around the world. The autocrats see how little we abide by our own values and don't think they need to abide by them either. Aaron, you needed to push back a lot more on her views.
Absolutely. As soon as she started talking about states that 1. Invade and occupy other populations 2. Think they can act with impunity 3. Have contempt for international conventions, organisations and human rights, I kept thinking 'when is Aaron going to mention Israel?'.
Equally plenty of other western backed states (e.g. Saudi Arabia and it's war in Yemen) also fit this description, yet don't make it onto her list, clearly because she splits states into Western allies (good) and western opponents (bad).
I'm really glad Novara are having these people on, but really need to challenge them and make them justify their double standards.
This is not want we want from independent media. We need critical informed voices not establishment journalists spouting drivel. We get this on the BBC ,major newspapers etc. Bastani is always Navara's weakest voice but he plums new depths in this interview
We have enabled Biden and Netanyahu. I want to see that interview.
Biden and Milkiewski.
hahahahahaha
Novara has began its neocon phase
The rent gotta get paid 😅
They've been following their line on Ukraine 90% of the time, especially Michael & Aaron.
Signing off.
That’s the late stage capitalism and its illusion of a free independent media
"begun" lol
Novara Media getting a deserved kicking from its subscribers. The moment I saw Anne Applebaum's name, I knew it would be trouble. Not challenging her toxic views was inexcusable.
What are the toxic views? Genuine question
@@noodleppoodle What exactly is a 'genuine question' ? As exempt from a 'non-genuine question' 🤔
@@johnholmes8178 as opposed to a sarcastic comment wrapped as a question. i was genuinely buffled and curious
@@noodleppoodle 'buffled' 🤣 In addition to your spelling, you might also benefit from appropriate use of capitals and full stops. PS. Apologies if English is not your first language.
@@johnholmes8178 you might benefit from focusing on the content. This is YT and I am typing this up fast. This is not a formal letter tot the president. And yes English is my 3rd language.
Anne is a joke, the US is going down under with these experts
I am sure you are veeeery knowledgeable…
painful unfunny joke with her power and influence
Do you think Americans read? They are watching Fox news and listening to Joe Rohan and Marjorie Traitor Greene
This is shocking from Novara Media. It really looks like they've sold out.
Aaron Bastani has just given a softball interview to an arch-neocon.
Wasn't it just a week or two ago where NM were criticising Venezuela on their weekday evening programme? And now this. F*ck me, this is bad
This is surely an aberration and I've no idea why it happened, but it's definitely given me pause re Novara. Let's see what they continue to say going forward.
They work for the establishment for gen y and gen z.. pretend to be left while upholding imperialism
Looks that way......
This is the most hilarious interview ever on Novara Media. She is sitting there sounding intelligent and knowledgable, spouting nonsense US propaganda that you might expect to read unquestioned at The Telegraph! I suspect that she may not have realised that Novara’s audience is probably better informed about the world than she is if this is what she believes!
One thing you got wrong there. She's way better informed about the world and especially about what's going on behind the closed doors than we are. She knows exactly what she's saying. Probably not aware to what kind of audience, but there's not much to lose, especially as it's a softball interview. She took platform to reiterate official policy and narrative, and if she sways one person in this kind of hostile territory, good. People that are on her side probably track all these engagements, collect comments, even work for these companies like yt. They estimate if there's potential for any kind of true resistance and if there is just manufacture new distraction culture war type of thing. Oh, Peterson vs Zizek 2 is coming up or Tommy Robinson or whatever.
@@moneypennysloverboy yes, cant disagree with you there. She goes around the world doing propaganda for the US and knows what she’s at for sure. It must take a special kind of chutzpah to sit there spouting total bullshit with a straight face.
Have to also add, that her Nobel Prize confirms something I figured out some decades ago. The entire infrastructure of our supposed ‘liberal’ democratic organisations that purport to defend freedom and democracy has been hijacked and co-opted and corrupted by neoliberalism. NGO’s funded by the State Department, Amnesty international, the Nobel Cttee, nuclear watchdogs, the international courts and judiciary, UN organisations and even our own UK political parties have all been corrupted by US and international money…
I dont mind Novara interviewing people like AA , but the questioning of her perspective was virtually nil...that equates to just giving her a platform.
Agreed. Aaron must be high.
Every time she describes Putin etc, I assume she is describing the Clinton, Bushes, Obamas and all the rest of them.
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That’s exactly what it sounds like. Every time she describes Russia, China or Iran etc I thought she was describing the US, Israel and it’s allies.
One hundred percent.
You're comparing Obama to Putin????
Beggars belief that Aaron Bastani can listen to this almost unending stream of horse manure and not collapse with laughter
I'm more concerned that he didn't pushback,why?
@@Dylan-co2cl Because most of what she said was true.
Hardly. True bullshit yes.
@@Dylan-co2clHe tried to push back about Israel but she just agreed with him. She actually agreed with him more than I thought she would.
What do you mean?
Does Novara have quite literally no shame?
It does not.
IT IS NOW BOUGHT BY CIA
well, I won't be buying that book in a hurry! what a load of claptrap. "They don't like us" ? How about your foreign policy is designed to exclude alienate and eliminate competition.
Exactly. Saying ‘us’ as well as if our governments’ actions actually represent the people. ‘They’re definitely don’t like her, and it’s definitely not because she ‘supports human rights’.
"Rule of Law" ... except for the U.S., right?
Yep. The UN can’t do a thing thanks to the US. The Hague can’t properly prosecute war criminals. It’s all useless thanks to the US more than anyone.
At 26 mins, "Putin took that concept of sovereignty bla bla and he can invade anyone he wants"
I had to check the speaker's nationality because an American with a gram of dignity would said that. Silly of me.
The blatant hypocrisy of the American government and its allies position regarding Ukraine vs Palestine never ceases to amaze me. It’s so in your face. They just don’t care.
Yeah, don't dare call Putin for what he does because someone else is also bad. Idiotic thinking.
What was our invasion of Iraq? What about Israel? What about the Minsk agreements? Questions Aaron ?
Russia broke the Minsk agreements. lol
@@darrenwithers3628 Have you seen what Angela Merkel said about the Minsk agreement.
@@roinevalSure. She was born in the DDR and knew Russia and you should see it in that light.
Russia started to violate the Minsk agreement before the ink was even dry. When Merkel said that the Russian attitude was completely clear
Iraq would be a good question but you gave yourself away when you started about the Minsk agreements. Learn only to use your good arguments otherwise they just attack you on the bad ones
@@arjan2777 "a good question "
I'm not sure a question that goes; what about, what about, what about, is a particularly good question but well done for engaging.
Tiring isn't it?
And then Novara totally blow it by indulging this neocon fantasist.
At least the comment box reassured me.
That’s the only ray of light in this horror!
She's either convinced that what she says is accurate, or she knows full well what she's doing, and she's not a very nice person. The US failed to asset strip Russia, and Putin has restored national pride. What the FBI and CIA do has more effect on more lives than what the KGB or SVR do. How Putin got rich isn't anything more than a cute distraction, like MTV's this my crib. Straight afterwards, NM should have invited reactions from Matt Kennard and John Mearsheimer. Her point of view is bad faith, rather than informative.
The U.S. did do a reasonable of asset stripping Russia which Putin put an end to. Which is why the U.S. wants regime change. What a lot of people don’t realise is that the U.S. and other Western interests are currently asset stripping Ukraine, with Zelensky’s complicity.
Mearsheimer never cared for Eastern Europeans and their agenda in all of this. He is an old man stucked in Cold War Era. Eastern Europe moved on and left Russia behind long time ago.
“Putin has restored national pride” by invading neighboring countries (notice the plural) and eliminating civil rights for LGBT folks. The world would have been a better place if he didn’t…
How Putin got rich and how corrupt that whole clique is actually gives important information about how that regime functions.
No it is not unimportant.
The US may have failed to asset strip Russia, but Putin and his cronies sure didn't!
Next, Tommy Robinson on amicable race relations. At least that will be a lot less racist than this
Aaron, were you not allowed to bring up certain topics?😮
he clearly stopped weneva she gave him the look, but then why platform her. unless it came with a fat donation. like wen TyT took Democrat money
I bet that was the only way to get the interview.
not bringing up her husbands nordstream tweet is shameful enough
Can you be more specific, what questions are you talking about?
So, Aaron, i guess your conclusion is that The USA has been very good for the world as a whole.
Lumping Venezeula in with Iran and Russia was the first red flag for me.
To sum up - Applebaum basically said in the interview: "When we invade others or shred international law to bits it's no justification for others to do the same". Aaron didn't challenge the guest meaningfully on any point and also sounded very unconfident in many places where he did actually have a very good opportunity to expose Applebaum's arguments, facts, and analogies.
In one place she said that Putin doesn't respect international law then in another that UN charters are idealized (we shouldn't take them too seriously)..In one instance she blames her Dictator Inc autocrats for invading smaller countries and then when confronted (very weakly) with US invasions or US ally aggressions she says "can't the world be a little bit more nuanced than that?", blaming the analogy..
Aaron lost all too many opportunities to make the interview meaningful..This way it didn't seem to
Brilliant comment ❤
Novara shouldn't be giving these war criminals any air time.
they should but the should also push back on what they say
The neo-GLIBeral arguement goes something like this : “You didn’t do exactly what we wanted ? You’re a rogue/oligarch/criminal/terrorist etc etc”
The worst part about that is so many people still buy it.
Anne says that the word 'genocide' is overused today (and we all know what she's hinting at by saying as much) and Aaron lets it go without any pushback at all - and as many other comments have noted there are plenty of other moments in this interview where Anne gets away with spewing pro-American imperialist talking points without a word of opposition. I'm pretty confused about why this interview is on Novara - I hope it's a one-off and not a sign of things to come.
Yea i caught that one too and she even wormed the statement in there, between sentences.. ugh we all know whats up. Disgusting human being
Anne's only concern is protecting US hegemony.
Should be your concern too if you live in the West
@@TueLesPigeons you live in the world.
@@JaimeNoro I live in the EU. US hegemony grants me privileges, including democracy, freedom of speech, social security, that I couldn't enjoy otherwise. So that's that.
Sick of these western warmongers. Sorry, not watching this!
i wish I hadn't wasted my time watching it.
West did not invade Ukraine. Russia did.
Putin can stop the war any time. Just leave Ukraine.
Some people have difficulty with the idea that the US can be both right and wrong on different occasions. There is nothing wrong with helping Ukraine.
Ukraine should get more help
@@arjan2777 The west can stop the Genocide by stop supplying arms to Israel, and could stop Ukrainians from Dying and allow them to a peace agreement that Boris Johnson told them NO, FIGHT ON LADS
@@Blanka1100 What part of 2014 don't you understand. Nuland handing out cookies and cheering on the Extreme right in Ukraine was just a coincidence. I guess when a high ranking chinese official goes to UK and cheers on Nigel Farage marching on the hill saying China supports you, you won't complain about political interference.
No one should ever take Novara media seriously after this.
thats a little harsh. i think the weekday reporting and the sunday interviews are two different things
@@thedarkknightReturns yeah but this is straight up propoganda. No questions regarding how invading the middle east regularly or coups in Africa and South America are democratic and liberal, or how dropping bombs on civilians is according to rule of law.
Showing themselves up to be a tool like the conventional media they talk down on
Why haven't either of you broached the failure of the Minsk Agreement, and how it was rejected by the major Western nations?
This has been my argument and even Nuland came out to talk about the USA stopping the instanbul peace agreement. Nope never heard about that says Michael and ash non stop. I thought Aaron was smarter on this. Total disappointment.
Because that one would be too easy for her and a waste of time. Russia violated the Minsk agreements from the beginning almost continuously and never even tried to implement them.
@@arjan2777 From western wiki no less
*On 17 December 2021, during the prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia published a list of demands for security guarantees in the form of two draft treaties with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the United States.*
@@thorinbaneHe called that security guarantees, These were actually demands that would compromise the security of all those countries that just survived decades of soviet occupation and oppression by that organization that shaped Putin, the KGB.
He wanted nato to desert these countries which it could not do. He wanted the US to give it Ukraine which it could not do. He wanted to expand his empire.
Russia is a big country with a big army and nuclear weapons. Nobody wants war with Russia. If you knew anything about Europe you would understand that. Russia is safe. Russia needs no security guarantees. Everyone around Russia is scared of it.
Russia has no security problems, Russia is a security problem for everyone else.
Countries like Ukraine need security guarantees. Russia does not.
@@thorinbane I remember. What it boiled down to is that the US should give Ukraine to Russia and remove nato protection from countries that were just liberated from decades of KGB rule.
Because a big country with a big army and nuclear weapons thought it needed security guarantees. Russia does not have security issues. Russia is a security issue for all countries that border it.
For heavens sake, why is it people like Anne Applebaum are quick to denounce Russian aggression but choose to ignore Israeli state crimes. Why didn't Mr.Bastani question this?
Should we not denounce Russia for their war crimes? Whataboutism isn't an argument, but a logical fallacy.
It's the infamous "hypocrisy" that defines the Achilles heel of the US.
@@AntonyJonesit’s not Whataboutism or a logical fallacy to point out how someone’s world view is one sided, or blinkered, or inconsistent etc. If you want to bang on about logical fallacies then perhaps you should make an effort to understand them first …
There should be a BS-per-second meter at the bottom-right for this interview. The rate is impressive.
That counter would be so high by the end of this propaganda fest.
She is just brilliant!
most disappointing interview yet, you just let her perpetuate all the western propaganda without any challenge whatsoever
You could tell he was chomping at the bit. Show your uncensored version Aaron!
Aaron didn't even challenge Applebaum's sanctimonious appeal to condemnation of Russia's invading the sovereignty of Ukraine with the illegal and immoral US invasion of Iraq went years earlier. Putin could rightly say that the invasion of Ukraine was an imitation of the US invasion of Iraq, and that you simply cannot play this game amongst nuclear armed powers without things going very awry eventually..
A good journalist would have pointed out that the U.S. had already undermined Ukrainian sovereignty with their 2014 coup.
Tucker did not challenge Putin because his knowledge about Eastern Europe's history is close to zero.
If democracy everywhere is the goal then our governments have to ditch being hypocrites. I believe capitalism and democracy are ultimately incompatible. Accommodations are, at times of social unrest, made and we get health care, education, pensions etc. But it doesn't last. Just long enough to pacify an unsettled majority then it winds back. If Democracy is the aim then restructuring our economies is a must.
Disgraceful interview. She went unchallenged on her bulls*it for too long. What was Aaron doing?
18 minutes in and I am bowled over by the sheer density of propaganda and revisionism being delivered here. Her portrayal of the Russian 90s in particular is so warped
Particularly adroit the way she portrays any criticism of the West's catastrophic role in the Russian transition, or acknowledgment of the massive missed opportunities there, as actually a West-centric view. "I, the non-chauvinist neutral party, can explain how it's actually all the Russians' fault, all of it!" lmao how enlightened! 😂
It isn’t actually. Ask Russians. Andreij Soldatov, Masha Gessen, Memorial, Pravda News etc.
The thing is she very probably believes it. Like Christian fundamentalists and white supremacists, neocons don't get to be neocons by adhering to a point of view that actually necessarily reflects reality.
Crikey! Hope the line of questioning isn't softball.
Lol, softball is an understatement
Jeez yes! Talk about minimal pushback… Pfff
Aaron is notorious for his softball interviews, why would it change now?
Yeah this was a disappointment from Aaron.
It was... the only "real" pushback was on Israel and mentioning Iraq war as a mistake.
Please interview Jeffrey Sachs (the Harvard professor Anne was alluding to) about his account of Russia's development and how the US stymied its economy as opposed to Poland.
Yes seconded.
Sachs is a traitor and Putin apologist!
So this is how it sounds when everything is viewed from the old regime change thinking in 2024. I hate it but it's important knowledge.
Well… Russia tried it by themselves … didn’t work well, did it?
Novara fell off, from journalism to grifting for the neoliberal bag. Genuinely disappointed. Fans should connect together and build their own platform where people like this do not get airtime with no pushback, Novara is a lost cause, writing is on the wall. NM fans, lets be better, make something better. US apologia is not journalism!
How casually and superficially she drop a line on the Chinese undermining the UN, or about the genocidal intention of Putin in Ukraine -" genocide is today an abused world" -that means there is no genocide in Gaza.... Please, prof Mairsheimer, come to the rescue!
The spread of Islam is not acceptable, but the Western export of liberalism and the ideology of human rights through military interventions and economic extortion is OK? :D
Was Churchill, whose policies are blamed for the 1943 famine in India, in which 3 million people died, an autocrat? Is British imperialism and tens of millions of forcibly subjugated, enslaved and murdered colonial inhabitants a reflection of a democratic or autocratic culture?
Yep…100%
That was old style colonialism. You will find it difficult to find people in the UK agreeing with that now.
Actually old style colonialism was beaten out of most European countries after the war. Except for Russia of course.
Let's have a Jeffrey Sachs interview to get a response to Applebaum's views on Russia/NATO/90s policies. He rejects that the US even sought to integrate Russia, and that the aim was to destroy Russia
Let us get Sachs to be interviewed about what he did in Poland in hte 90s.
@@tjaryma he has often answered that. But, yeah again, why not? It ended up working a treat
She said 'I know everything about Russia because I listen to the opposition'. Just imagine someone from Russia saying 'I know everything about the UK because I listen to Tommy Robinson'. And Robinson actually represents some parts of the UK society, unlike the opposition she refers to. Those 'experts' are just ridiculous, but at the same time dangerous
Especially true when a country listens to political opposition parties and groups in other countries only when it suits their own interests.
@@ShakirahIbaadThese groups are often astroturfed and funded by the NED.
Navalny ain't even "opposition", he doesn't represent anything in Russia. Russians don't care about him.
The Russian opposition is CIA directed. So an echo chamber. What utter rubbish.
Are you hallucinating? No one said 'I know everything about Russia because...'
Aaron didn't do a good job here. Huge fan but he let her talk about how Russia and China defy international law, but yet didn't press her on Western Illegal Invasions and Israel's genocide.
SHE DARED TO BRING UP NEVER AGAIN! DURING AN ACTIVE GENOCIDE BY THE WEST!? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WOMAN?!
Because it doesn't feel like genocide if you don't see its victims as human beings
I like the way that her default position is that they are "defending Israel from Iran". Sure it is...
Considering the number of pro Pootin trolls in the comment section, shows how much this woman is dangerous to the authoritarian regimes around the world.
Well done Anne! Your work is truly important to all us that are not in favour of the regimes she talks about!
Novara, very unfortunate guest you have here.
Yes I'm sure the modern Tzar of Russia feels robbed of his measly little KGB job. I had low expectations but Anne managed to shatter them. That's impressive. The capacity of limitless self delusion is what will be death of the American empire. Anne is a prime example of this. I have no doubt that she is indeed high on her own supply and truly believes the absurd things she says.
Oh dear, she does not see her own hypocracy.
This lady is unwatchable.
This woman is so intelligent and honest , she knows to explain difficult circumstances!
One thing is always glaringly clear, when you listen to Scott Ritter, Max Blumenthal, Matt Kennard vs when you listen to the guest on this show. The former speak in details and concrete arguments whilst the neocons speak in generalities and vibes.
Max Blumenthal and Scott Ritter are on Russian payroll. Ritter is literally on the run for crimes against children.
This is one of the more unhinged interviews ive watched recently - this kind of drivel is going out of style and i think she missed the memo
This harpie? Why? Unsubscribed.
Can you tell me how to?! I'm doing the same, the minute I work out how!
I worked it out 😁🙌
@@camillaconstance6526 goodbye 👋
"keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
or just be a whiny snowflake and never challenge yourself 👍
Mee too unsubscribe! 🎉
Wow! I’m a frequent viewer of your outstanding podcast and think that this interview with Anne is one of your best. I live in a part of the world directly affected by Russian aggression and feel that her insights are right on. I’m shocked by the number of disparaging comments. Looks to me like Russian bots are hard at work which can only mean that Anne’s truth-telling has gotten under someone’s skin. Please continue with these types of interviews.
BAHAHA the G side supporter is to be believed....Iol yeah terrible job by this site. They lost a lot of viewers because of this interview and rightly so.
Prof Jeffrey Sachs gave a very honest and first hand account recently of the 90s and 2000s recently for example. And he exactly explained the differences between the paths followed by Poland and the one by Russia. He was an economy advisor during the transition- a very accurate insight and not the account given here at all.
US state propagandist and apologist for capitalism. Anne Applebaum. Go ahead and read her work on the USSR and tell me she isn't some sort of asset for the US intelligence apparatus.
That's not the whole story.
Try to find out about the Double Holocaust revisionists. (in short, Putin=Hitler=Stalin)
To me, looks like a political sect, agressively preaching horrible nonsense, that will end up with Armageddon.
12 minutes in and I’m already nauseated. We cared about the killings, even if they didn’t. Awful people. Shame on Bastani and NM. If you can’t hold this ideologue’s feet to the fire, then what’s the purpose. I am now officially unsubscribed.
Ok a couple of minutes in and she is talking nonsense. Putin would have preferred his career in the KGB to being president 🤷🏻♀️🤔😂 Really?
😂 that confused me a lot. She is so full of rubbish.
That is not what she meant and you know it.
I have a lot of respect for Aaron but on this occasion, he let this guest talk alot of hypocritical liberal nonsense without much challenge. Disappointing
Anne appelbaum?? Seriously
Did she just say there is variety and diversity of opinion in mainstream UK media?! Okay…I did my best, sorry : TAXI!
What has happened to Novara lately??
The media taught me to distrust the media. Modern communication allowed me to pick up the phone in the 1970s and call my relatives on the other side of the world, ask them if what I heard on 'the news' was accurate and hear a vastly different account of what transpired on their street. The media is not a disinterested player. It has political and economic agendas, can be bought and sold by wealthy individuals and advance their interests. I learned to cast a wide net when it comes to 'the news.'
Novara? What happened?
This doesn't make sense!
My gag reflex is getting a lot of exercise watching this. Zero calling her out on the double standards: US is allowed to invade smaller countries, but Russia is not. Cool.
35:30 ‘in our minds the point of government is to create prosperity, to make a country wealthier and enrich people’. I though that government was there to ensure justice and fairness, and protect the vulnerable. I must have got that wrong.
What’s the point of having her on if you don’t push back hard? I can listen to what she and those like her say all the time on mainstream media
I like Aaron talking to people with differing political positions, as objectionable as they may be. I want more Applebaums, Goodwins and Hitchens. People need to stop clutching their pearls and see it as the opportunity to sharpen their arguments. Great interview, as always.
Accuse your enemy of what you are doing. Sickening.
Noam Chomsky would make mince meat of this woman - terrible interview - bordering on dangerous propaganda ...
Made me smile just thinking about it
Funny, because Chomski has the eact same views about Russian misinformation and Putin as she has.
Ash should have done this interview…I think Aaron is too accommodating and trying too hard to build concensus. This lady had no qualms talking to Russian/Iranian/Chinese corruption and lack of “values” but when mildly asked about Israel suddenly the world is “complex “ and stuttering & Aaron allows her to “end on a good note!” WTF after 2 minutes of actually putting her so called values on a test not against Russia but her allies . Hypocrisy & a waste of time.
or rivkah
Ash agrees with her. Ash and Michael made me unsubb because of there LGBT only take on world politics.
Novara is a pay-to-play scheme
She has the audacity to talk about human rights.Iraq,Libya,Yemen, Syria.
She's full off it.
Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, economic sanction on more countries than not...
Afghanistan still a failed state after 20 years of america uplifting them.
Why on earth did Aaron allow this absolute weapon of a woman spew her unmitigated nonsense on Novara?😮
Novaro is a joke at this point.
I am quite astonished seeing this interview on this channel. And even more by the coyness with which Aaron brings up the issue of Israel's genocide and doesn't confront her when she says "Do you think the U.S. is not trying to stop the war?" as if it's so self-evident!!!
She is wrong and Russia and wrong on Israel NM is wrong on Russia and drifting to be wrong on Israel by giving a Jen I side like her a platform without pushback. Unsubb till they start using some critical reasoning. Doesn't seem to be present here.