The Ioniq 5N is different from other electric vehicles. Unlike other electric vehicles that do not reduce fundamental power consumption but only reduce maximum output, the Ioniq 5N is equipped with a dual-stage inverter, so it completely changes to the output of the general Ioniq 5 in ECO mode. Therefore, in ECO mode, it changes to a 300-horsepower motor and can fundamentally reduce power. Both the front and rear tires are wide tires of size 275, so they are disadvantageous for driving distance due to rolling resistance, but the dual-stage inverter increases efficiency. Use ECO mode. And coast with regenerative braking AUTO 1st gear. This is the reason why it can travel a long distance compared to the tire size and motor output. The driving distance on the display is conservative. You can drive more distance than that.
7:37 slight correction: Permanent magnet motors have basically the same instant torque like an asynchronous motor. They have a higher torque density and are slightly more efficient due to the magnets. But they use rarer materials and are therefore more expensive. Their biggest disadvantage as a second motor is that they constantly need an AC voltage from the inverter to produce zero torque which isn't very efficient. Asychronous motors don't slow the car down if they just sit there without any voltage from the inverter.
@@onehorsepower The sad thing is the loses in an open clutch due to the relative motion of the 2 plates and resulting windage is higher than it would have been if they just let the motor connected and did not add a clutch and resulting bearings and seals. Isn't it interesting that an actual efficient car like (using PM motors) like the Lucid Air does not use a clutch.
Fake gearshifts and engine sounds seem like a stupid idea, yet they did put a smile on your face. Most will probably turn those off for daily driving as the novelty wears off, but I could see having fun with it every now and then
If i had that car, i probably would use it sometimes just to goof around. It seems fun. But most of the time as daily driver just driving it as normal ev without that sound and gear stuff
It's the way the car behaves likes ICE car that makes it fun...not just sound. And that's where it's set apart from others. Currently no other brands can do that.
@@TschingisTube Would suggest you go check out how many subs misha has and check him and his company out then you will know how important that is for hyundai ( they gave him a 5n that is remade into the worlds first speedrun car with aero and a full special made kit that nobody else on the planet has )
@@ALCLCFVIS i could not care less. First ev buyer buying that ev will go back to ice afterwards because it's such a bad ev in everything else that is relevant for a good ev. But some people also need a lesson 😁
Hi Björn! The reason it doesn’t have electric seats is because they saved weight with this. They needed to save 200 kilograms to allow for the additional reinforcement and the more powerful engines.
Fyi. If it is the same as the Kia EV6 which it probably is. The head up display has different settings. One of these is to turn on the augmented reality. This then gives the illusion of sort of projecting info on to the road. Such as flashing arrows when leaving the road or going around roundabouts etc and works well in conjunction with the SatNav. I of course appreciate it can be difficult to understand all the features a car has in a short space of time. But to comment on that a car doesn’t have something when it actually does without checking first is something a lot of car reviewers seem to do these days. If I remember last time I used the inbuilt nav to go to a charging station I am sure it showed soc at arrival? However I have an EV6 GT and I am confident they use the same infotainment system from what I have been told.
The most startling thing about the egmp smart cruise is not the braking, but if you're following, the car has reduced speed due to traffic, and then there is a sharp(ish) corner - when the car in front turns out of line, then the car suddenly accelerates you right before you need to make the corner yourself. 😅
I got a message about a software update including adjusting the lane assist...which may be can imply better check on turns...I'll check this (if possible due to traffic following) next week.
Well that is life where YOU are the driver and has to actually control your vehicle if the one in front suddenly turns off out of line...and i mean how does that even happen in a sharp corner? does he drive in the ditch? There are no exits ever in sharp corners where the driver in front does not reduce the speed before turning off the road?
@@Tsenngu Ok. Maybe this is not entirely clear. Smart Cruise only controls the speed, it's not the Highway Drive Assist that steers for you. If you have the cruise control set to, say, 60mph and then you catch up with someone doing 45, the car detects the car in front using radar and slows to match the leading vehicle and keep a set distance. If you come to a fairly sharp corner, then when the leading car takes the corner, but you are still 20-30m behind and have not, it is no longer directly in front of you in the line of sight that the car thinks is 'in your lane', and so it starts to speed up to regain your set cruise speed. As I'm still steering, I'm obviously paying attention to what is going on and was able to easily brake to take the corner and disengage the cruise.
Still somewhat regret not getting the 5N over my 24 M3P. But it was a huge price diff back then and the dealers did not want to give any discount at all on the 5N. Now there are cars with 500km on the clock for almost 100k SEK less than they offered me. That is still 100k more than what I paid for my 3P I do go to track days, but in my other car ao the idea of being able to take this to the track is great. However thinking of it that woul maybe 1% of the total driving. So it was difficult to swallow the price difference from that aspect. As a daily both cars are super! But the consumption when driving like a normal person in 5n is quite high, will be interesting to see reports when it is a bit colder
Due to massive regen thanks to cooling, 800V and powerful motors and quick inverters this is one of the very few EVs with great range... on track or heavy driving. It even allows for ABS during regen. In such a test, roles would be turned around and most EVs would fail miserably. As a proper performance car, it is perhaps a compliment it can be confused for a very practical daily, as it is indeed so and also relatively very comfortable and quiet (when you wany it) for a performance car. Hyundai N is successful team in WRC with their hybrid, unfortunately very few people are aware of rally nowadays...
@@KP-xi4bj I estimate my real range 400km. (In winter 380, in summer 420) at 100 km/h...the speed limit in my country, the netherlands at day time. This with a project 45 (72,6 kwh) after 75000 km off driving. Yes , it is less than 300 miles.... Also it is 4 hours of driving ...in other words , after that distance I need a sanitair stop and a meal. Within the rest time the car is (with an 800V fastcharger) often charged faster than my meal takes. In other words...400 km suits me well as range.
You can see the percentage charge at destination when you click on the arrival flag in the navigation (lower right corner of the screen). The infotainment system could be improved in that regard. Should also show "how negative" your arrival percentage will be, right now in the normal ioniq 5 it just says "unknown" which is stupid.
I went to test drive the Hyundai Ioniq 5N back to back with Tesla Model Y Performance with my family, and we loved the Ioniq 5N. The Tesla is much better in infotainment (in every way), it's good enough at being fast, and it has a better range, but the Ioniq 5N is miles better at handling, ride quality, and effortless speed and that planted drive feeling is amazing. It's like a 2-tonne race car compared to the Tesla Model Y, which is really fast but doesn't feel confident in turns or twisted roads. I was so close to buying the Ioniq 5N, but the deal breaker came from the most unexpected area. The rear seats are so uncomfortable. They're wooden plank hard. Both, my wife and kid couldn't last the 20-minute test drive without feeling the seats are hard as a rock. When I sat back, I couldn't imagine going on an hour-long drive and sitting in the back; it was that bad. In comparison, the front bucket seats are perfectly comfortable and reasonably soft. We also went to try the normal Ioniq 5 and Santa Fe in the showroom, and it was the same issue; both cars had comfortable front seats, but the back seats were rock hard and made like an afterthought. Did anyone else notice it? Compared to the Tesla Model Y or Model 3, these have sofa-quality soft seats, at least the models made in 2024. Now I'm torn between buying the Tesla or Hyundai. I needed a family car for a daily drive, but the Hyundai has been made unusable for anyone in the back, and I really don't want to try and solve it by buying cushions for a car that costs this much money! On the other hand, the Tesla Model Y is a fantastic car. It is plenty fast, much more comfortable, has more space, and is better in many areas except the one I care about the most, and that's driveability an handling. I'm a track car enthusiast and recently sold my track car, so I hoped the Hyundai Ioniq 5N would give me the best of both worlds. Seeing it fail only because of terrible rear seats is such a shame, and I still can't decide which one to buy.
The charging is impressive. Practically no charging losses. Wow. But the consumption is wild (210 at only 90kmh). So sure, with the super fast charging you can compensate maybe a lot in terms of time but it is pretty expensive to drive then. And I agree, manual seats in such an expensive electric car is funny.
It's inefficiënt as it's build with overcapacity, more than strictly needed cooling, wider tyres etc etc etc. It makes it an inefficiënt daily, but it will be able to hold it's ground longer while tracking than a model Y that is build as a perfect balanced car, for normal road usage. It's a trade off indeed.
Given what the car is, it's very likely to only have 1 person ever driving it hence the manual seats do make some sense. One less thing to go wrong also.
@@dootu I don't mind manual seats, it takes 3 seconds to adjust it where it can take several miles to get 12 way adjustable power seats to where you want it. Plus saves a little weight and cost.
Great video! It would be interesting to see the updated Mach E GT with their new more efficient rearmotor that is supposedly not so sensitive to overheating as earlier one was. It is also faster than model y performance in 0-100 and on a quarter mile run (ford claims). Cause I think Mach E is also seen as a "thirsty" performance car. And in your very interesting rollingresistancetest would be even more interesting to see if a Mach E GT (2024 updated) has lower resistance and also consumption. Thanks for providing us with the best evreviews on UA-cam! //Håkan
I get 250-260kw from rapid charger with mine and around 20kwh/100kms at 100kmh in eco mode with auto regen. When I use sport mode it’s around 23kwh/100kms.
I suppose ALL ioniq 5 do have battery pre-condition. Even the project 45 does have this....software update installed that . Still I'm waiting for an update for charging the car (maybe first at ionity) without needing to start the charger with a card....charger immediatly recognizing the car and billing the correct Credit card.
@@reiniernn9071 Nope. When he tested the regular versions the software didn't have battery preconditioning in it yet. Results would be very different on those models if re-tested. ...this model in the video is performance toy where range and efficiency is the last in priority - so this isn't representative of the model's range.
@@st4849 I know that in 2021 the 5 had no battery pre conditioning....Bjorn should retest such a car....also because the range can be influenced by this preheating. But I noticed that in winter (march this year) my charging times were much shorter than a year before at 4 degrees temp outside. The preconditioning was an update somewhere in autumn 2023.
It's nice to have these efficiency tests done with this car as well, but people who would buy it shouldn't care much about efficiency since it's not its strong side, nor its selling point.
@@JackMaslovLive Anyone who wants to drive it daily or frequently cares about its efficiency, and I'd wager that's a *far* larger group of potential buyers than those who would buy a giant electric SUV, which will depreciate like a stone, solely as a weekend or track car. No, it's not the strong side or its selling point, but it still *matters.* Plenty of buyers still care about storage space in sports cars, for example; it's obviously not a *priority,* but many of those cars will get taken on road trips, and being able to fit one or two small bags for a weekend away matters.
Not bigger then Y, but much bigger than model 3 for sure. Wide tyres but also additional cooling for both brakes and cooling package costs range, and frankly the body shape was never good for aero efficiency to start with. Driven hard on twisty roads and the range advantage of most EVs will melt away soon enough, go harder again and tables are turned, regular EVs go into limp and their de facto range becomes single digit 😂
Anyone who ever drove a fun cool petrol smelling fast cars knows about rev matching. I drive an EV myself but ..i mean there is a point to the limiter and rev matching sounds :D
I've heard a theory why the consumption is so high. As it is a performance car, it is "unacceptable" for the brakes to take a long time / long movement of the pedal to start breaking and therefore the gap between the brake disc and brake pads is very very small… which adds some friction. Basically, the car is braking all the time little bit. Also, I think the difference between from charger and into battery is not about charger loses, these happen inside the battery (in the cells) and won't be measurable/visible. These are probably some other loads ‒ active battery heater / cooler, coolant pumps, electronics…
I find it extremely unlikely that the brake pad is in constant contact. All other potential problems aside, the pads wouldn't last long even if the contact was very light. I don't think the high consumption is a big mystery. Wide high-performance tyres, adding quite a lot of rolling resistance, and the aerodynamic impact of having huge wheels with no aero covers, plus the extra drag from the extra cooling that they've added to allow for sustained track performance.
Bjorn, do you have access to a Kia EV3 already? I saw it on an autoshow a couple of weeks ago, and it looked like a great cheap-ish small-ish car with equipment that rivals a lot more expensive cars. I would be interested to see all the tests you do (range, 1000 km, banana-box, etc.), unfortunately no other youtube reviewer does similar kinds of tests. Having >80 kwh of battery for such a small car is very appealing to me, and also even the cheapest version has heat pump, and it's supposed to be rather economical, but on the other hand it charges kinda slow (130 kW for the bigger battery), so the 1000 km is going to be interesting.
But why is it build like a daily then? Could have made a 2 seater and proper track car not this strange hybrid of daily and track car. Range and Efficiency is really bad, can also expect cold gating in the winter. On this test it wasn't that cold and preheating the battery was already difficult. Sales numbers show that most ppl. don't need this car. The Ioniq5 is not even in the top10 anymore.
Why you should buy an 70k€ and 2,3t SUV to do what? 2Laps?! this is not a track car. I would rather buy a model y LR for 50k and an old bimmer or cupra gor 20k if I would live near a track
I’m ok with fake gear as it’s an excellent reminder how fast you drive. The colour on the other hand is simply awful. I never understood this old lady pants choice… not that I know about old ladies pants. 😂
Well, soft winter tires in +4 and 275 mm wide as well, that will be terrible for consumption in any car. Retest in May and it will probably be closer to 250 than 300.
Also I noticed that in winter my (older) 5 uses a lot of energy short after starting a travel, but after 20 to 30 minutes the usage goes down. Something with battery management. When driving only short distances the usage is much higher than on long distance travels.
14:49 "We didn't hit the sound barrier"... Did you mean breaking Mach 1? 😅 That would be around 1200 km/h... Maybe you can if you drive a Ford Mustang Mach-E? 😂
Impress machine, though. 1hr to refuel a vehicle, is at least 54min too long, it's a time that an EV driver will never get back, life's short, ain't nobody got time for that. I rented '23 Polstar 2 from Hertz in London for 4 days, as I was interested in EV experience. Driving was fun, a lot of fun, but charging for someone who doesn't have a drive is a nightmare. 4hrs to get measly 426miles of ranage is an absolute joke + it was double the price of petrol I would need for my ICE (2010 1.75l 200hp Alfa 159) to run over the same distance. I need to buy a house for an EV to make sense... that's expensive 😕
In my opinion, it just seems like your intelligence level is low. This car is faster than a Lamborghini Urus. If you review a Lamborghini and talk about fuel efficiency, that just means you don't understand cars. And that’s exactly what you are 😭
The Ioniq 5N is different from other electric vehicles. Unlike other electric vehicles that do not reduce fundamental power consumption but only reduce maximum output, the Ioniq 5N is equipped with a dual-stage inverter, so it completely changes to the output of the general Ioniq 5 in ECO mode. Therefore, in ECO mode, it changes to a 300-horsepower motor and can fundamentally reduce power. Both the front and rear tires are wide tires of size 275, so they are disadvantageous for driving distance due to rolling resistance, but the dual-stage inverter increases efficiency. Use ECO mode. And coast with regenerative braking AUTO 1st gear. This is the reason why it can travel a long distance compared to the tire size and motor output. The driving distance on the display is conservative. You can drive more distance than that.
It's the same in the Kia EV6 GT
@ Yes, and EV9 AWD only
Too bad the car defaults to normal mode every time you start it.
@@bjornnylandEV6 GT is keeping the ECO mode...
why not to use the I-pedal function ?
One thing for sure, this Beast from The East has personality. It'll attract those that fit this EV's personality, perfectly. Thanks Bjorn.
7:37 slight correction: Permanent magnet motors have basically the same instant torque like an asynchronous motor. They have a higher torque density and are slightly more efficient due to the magnets.
But they use rarer materials and are therefore more expensive. Their biggest disadvantage as a second motor is that they constantly need an AC voltage from the inverter to produce zero torque which isn't very efficient. Asychronous motors don't slow the car down if they just sit there without any voltage from the inverter.
That is why the front motor has a clutch to completely disengage it.
@@onehorsepower The sad thing is the loses in an open clutch due to the relative motion of the 2 plates and resulting windage is higher than it would have been if they just let the motor connected and did not add a clutch and resulting bearings and seals. Isn't it interesting that an actual efficient car like (using PM motors) like the Lucid Air does not use a clutch.
Fake gearshifts and engine sounds seem like a stupid idea, yet they did put a smile on your face. Most will probably turn those off for daily driving as the novelty wears off, but I could see having fun with it every now and then
Not sure why its a problem. Just turn it off. I think its fun.
If i had that car, i probably would use it sometimes just to goof around. It seems fun.
But most of the time as daily driver just driving it as normal ev without that sound and gear stuff
It's the way the car behaves likes ICE car that makes it fun...not just sound. And that's where it's set apart from others. Currently no other brands can do that.
They also added ICE levels of inefficiency, nice 😅 shame there’s no smoke generators for realistic ICE shame
@@머쓸이 yeah its a unique selling point. Tbh.
I dont need it but i know people who would love that.
Misha Charoudin has driven this round the Nordschleife. It performed very well indeed, and it was great fun to watch.
Can we hope that Hyundai can live from views of some UA-camr driven on the Nordschleife
@@TschingisTube Would suggest you go check out how many subs misha has and check him and his company out then you will know how important that is for hyundai ( they gave him a 5n that is remade into the worlds first speedrun car with aero and a full special made kit that nobody else on the planet has )
@@TschingisTube That guy in front of Misha wasn't half bad too!
@@TschingisTube at least you can recognize that today, the best EV sport car is a Hyundai
@@ALCLCFVIS i could not care less. First ev buyer buying that ev will go back to ice afterwards because it's such a bad ev in everything else that is relevant for a good ev. But some people also need a lesson 😁
Pres and hold mute button, it will disable warnings.
Thank you EU for that.
Hi Björn! The reason it doesn’t have electric seats is because they saved weight with this. They needed to save 200 kilograms to allow for the additional reinforcement and the more powerful engines.
Plus, whoever buys this car with an intention to really use it on track, will most probably replace the seats anyway.
One of the few EV cars that can actually do more than one lap at the Nordschleife without the brakes burning and the car going into limp mode
Thats what every buyer want, isnt it?
I drive rather a car that I can drive over 150kph on the autobahn without consuming over 30kwh/100km
@@Pupuzor If you're buying this car you may very well want it to perform like that since it's built/marketed as a daily car that can be tracked.
Yeah funny enough Throttle House tested Tesla Model 3 Performance and it was anything but performance. Couldn’t last even a lap without issues
@@sergeikulichkov7748 It's a Model 3 Short Term Performance car.
Finally! The most expected vlog!
Fyi. If it is the same as the Kia EV6 which it probably is. The head up display has different settings. One of these is to turn on the augmented reality. This then gives the illusion of sort of projecting info on to the road. Such as flashing arrows when leaving the road or going around roundabouts etc and works well in conjunction with the SatNav. I of course appreciate it can be difficult to understand all the features a car has in a short space of time. But to comment on that a car doesn’t have something when it actually does without checking first is something a lot of car reviewers seem to do these days. If I remember last time I used the inbuilt nav to go to a charging station I am sure it showed soc at arrival? However I have an EV6 GT and I am confident they use the same infotainment system from what I have been told.
The most startling thing about the egmp smart cruise is not the braking, but if you're following, the car has reduced speed due to traffic, and then there is a sharp(ish) corner - when the car in front turns out of line, then the car suddenly accelerates you right before you need to make the corner yourself. 😅
I got a message about a software update including adjusting the lane assist...which may be can imply better check on turns...I'll check this (if possible due to traffic following) next week.
Well that is life where YOU are the driver and has to actually control your vehicle if the one in front suddenly turns off out of line...and i mean how does that even happen in a sharp corner? does he drive in the ditch? There are no exits ever in sharp corners where the driver in front does not reduce the speed before turning off the road?
@@Tsenngu Ok. Maybe this is not entirely clear. Smart Cruise only controls the speed, it's not the Highway Drive Assist that steers for you. If you have the cruise control set to, say, 60mph and then you catch up with someone doing 45, the car detects the car in front using radar and slows to match the leading vehicle and keep a set distance. If you come to a fairly sharp corner, then when the leading car takes the corner, but you are still 20-30m behind and have not, it is no longer directly in front of you in the line of sight that the car thinks is 'in your lane', and so it starts to speed up to regain your set cruise speed. As I'm still steering, I'm obviously paying attention to what is going on and was able to easily brake to take the corner and disengage the cruise.
Still somewhat regret not getting the 5N over my 24 M3P. But it was a huge price diff back then and the dealers did not want to give any discount at all on the 5N. Now there are cars with 500km on the clock for almost 100k SEK less than they offered me. That is still 100k more than what I paid for my 3P
I do go to track days, but in my other car ao the idea of being able to take this to the track is great. However thinking of it that woul maybe 1% of the total driving. So it was difficult to swallow the price difference from that aspect.
As a daily both cars are super! But the consumption when driving like a normal person in 5n is quite high, will be interesting to see reports when it is a bit colder
Due to massive regen thanks to cooling, 800V and powerful motors and quick inverters this is one of the very few EVs with great range... on track or heavy driving. It even allows for ABS during regen. In such a test, roles would be turned around and most EVs would fail miserably. As a proper performance car, it is perhaps a compliment it can be confused for a very practical daily, as it is indeed so and also relatively very comfortable and quiet (when you wany it) for a performance car.
Hyundai N is successful team in WRC with their hybrid, unfortunately very few people are aware of rally nowadays...
Less than 300 miles per charge is great range in 2024? Yeah, no.
100% not a PR comment 😅
@@KP-xi4bj Depends how far you need to go 🤣
@@KP-xi4bj I estimate my real range 400km. (In winter 380, in summer 420) at 100 km/h...the speed limit in my country, the netherlands at day time. This with a project 45 (72,6 kwh) after 75000 km off driving.
Yes , it is less than 300 miles....
Also it is 4 hours of driving ...in other words , after that distance I need a sanitair stop and a meal. Within the rest time the car is (with an 800V fastcharger) often charged faster than my meal takes.
In other words...400 km suits me well as range.
@@FamilyMorcChannel Sounds like excuses. LMFAO SMH
I am still waiting for the Ioniq 6 N, maybe I will exchange my Ioniq 6 for it maybe. But I will probably wait for Bjorn's test...
You can see the percentage charge at destination when you click on the arrival flag in the navigation (lower right corner of the screen). The infotainment system could be improved in that regard. Should also show "how negative" your arrival percentage will be, right now in the normal ioniq 5 it just says "unknown" which is stupid.
I went to test drive the Hyundai Ioniq 5N back to back with Tesla Model Y Performance with my family, and we loved the Ioniq 5N. The Tesla is much better in infotainment (in every way), it's good enough at being fast, and it has a better range, but the Ioniq 5N is miles better at handling, ride quality, and effortless speed and that planted drive feeling is amazing. It's like a 2-tonne race car compared to the Tesla Model Y, which is really fast but doesn't feel confident in turns or twisted roads. I was so close to buying the Ioniq 5N, but the deal breaker came from the most unexpected area. The rear seats are so uncomfortable. They're wooden plank hard.
Both, my wife and kid couldn't last the 20-minute test drive without feeling the seats are hard as a rock. When I sat back, I couldn't imagine going on an hour-long drive and sitting in the back; it was that bad. In comparison, the front bucket seats are perfectly comfortable and reasonably soft. We also went to try the normal Ioniq 5 and Santa Fe in the showroom, and it was the same issue; both cars had comfortable front seats, but the back seats were rock hard and made like an afterthought. Did anyone else notice it?
Compared to the Tesla Model Y or Model 3, these have sofa-quality soft seats, at least the models made in 2024. Now I'm torn between buying the Tesla or Hyundai. I needed a family car for a daily drive, but the Hyundai has been made unusable for anyone in the back, and I really don't want to try and solve it by buying cushions for a car that costs this much money!
On the other hand, the Tesla Model Y is a fantastic car. It is plenty fast, much more comfortable, has more space, and is better in many areas except the one I care about the most, and that's driveability an handling. I'm a track car enthusiast and recently sold my track car, so I hoped the Hyundai Ioniq 5N would give me the best of both worlds. Seeing it fail only because of terrible rear seats is such a shame, and I still can't decide which one to buy.
Get some Tempur-pedic cushions. Problem solved.
The charging is impressive. Practically no charging losses. Wow. But the consumption is wild (210 at only 90kmh). So sure, with the super fast charging you can compensate maybe a lot in terms of time but it is pretty expensive to drive then.
And I agree, manual seats in such an expensive electric car is funny.
Estimated 1000 km time is 10 hours and 15 minutes.
It's inefficiënt as it's build with overcapacity, more than strictly needed cooling, wider tyres etc etc etc. It makes it an inefficiënt daily, but it will be able to hold it's ground longer while tracking than a model Y that is build as a perfect balanced car, for normal road usage. It's a trade off indeed.
Given what the car is, it's very likely to only have 1 person ever driving it hence the manual seats do make some sense. One less thing to go wrong also.
@@dootu I don't mind manual seats, it takes 3 seconds to adjust it where it can take several miles to get 12 way adjustable power seats to where you want it. Plus saves a little weight and cost.
@@dootu Manual seats are lighter, quicker to adjust and hardly ever fail.
Great video! It would be interesting to see the updated Mach E GT with their new more efficient rearmotor that is supposedly not so sensitive to overheating as earlier one was. It is also faster than model y performance in 0-100 and on a quarter mile run (ford claims). Cause I think Mach E is also seen as a "thirsty" performance car.
And in your very interesting rollingresistancetest would be even more interesting to see if a Mach E GT (2024 updated) has lower resistance and also consumption.
Thanks for providing us with the best evreviews on UA-cam! //Håkan
they should have made a mixture of ioniq 5 and 6. the 5 is so variable and spacy and the 6 is so aerodynamic... but the 5 seems too bulky for physics.
10:30 you can configure this in settings, at least in Kia EV9
How is this similar spec or comparable to a Model 3?
Hold and press volume to disable speed warning
Its like playing NFS drag races... if you miss the shifts nothing happens you can just restart the race
I get 250-260kw from rapid charger with mine and around 20kwh/100kms at 100kmh in eco mode with auto regen. When I use sport mode it’s around 23kwh/100kms.
The RWD Ioniq 5 with battery pre-conditioning is the only version you did not test AFAIK. ...and the most typical/important in terms of this model.
I suppose ALL ioniq 5 do have battery pre-condition. Even the project 45 does have this....software update installed that .
Still I'm waiting for an update for charging the car (maybe first at ionity) without needing to start the charger with a card....charger immediatly recognizing the car and billing the correct Credit card.
@@reiniernn9071 Nope. When he tested the regular versions the software didn't have battery preconditioning in it yet. Results would be very different on those models if re-tested. ...this model in the video is performance toy where range and efficiency is the last in priority - so this isn't representative of the model's range.
@@st4849 I know that in 2021 the 5 had no battery pre conditioning....Bjorn should retest such a car....also because the range can be influenced by this preheating.
But I noticed that in winter (march this year) my charging times were much shorter than a year before at 4 degrees temp outside. The preconditioning was an update somewhere in autumn 2023.
@@st4849 It was tested during hot weather and even overheated. How would battery preconditioning do any difference in that situation?
Maybe the boxy shape cause high comsumption
They did a realy good job with the battery and drivetrain cooling. It will do a long autobahn run without loosing power.
*losing
The Sweet Baby, makes the Video! 🤗
I don't knwo why Hyundai sent this car to Bjorn for testing. It's a track or play car, and it is evaluated as a corolla.
because some will use that car not only on the track but also as daily driver?!
It's nice to have these efficiency tests done with this car as well, but people who would buy it shouldn't care much about efficiency since it's not its strong side, nor its selling point.
Agreed, it’s for car enthusiasts
@@sergeikulichkov7748 That is great; but people now know it is a car with compromises.
@@JackMaslovLive Anyone who wants to drive it daily or frequently cares about its efficiency, and I'd wager that's a *far* larger group of potential buyers than those who would buy a giant electric SUV, which will depreciate like a stone, solely as a weekend or track car.
No, it's not the strong side or its selling point, but it still *matters.* Plenty of buyers still care about storage space in sports cars, for example; it's obviously not a *priority,* but many of those cars will get taken on road trips, and being able to fit one or two small bags for a weekend away matters.
Why compare it to Model 3? It‘s bigger than Model Y on wider tyres. But nonetheless a thirsty beast.
its not bigger than a Y, its heavier though, i have 295's on my Y and much better efficiency, but obviously its much slower than the 5N
Not bigger then Y, but much bigger than model 3 for sure. Wide tyres but also additional cooling for both brakes and cooling package costs range, and frankly the body shape was never good for aero efficiency to start with.
Driven hard on twisty roads and the range advantage of most EVs will melt away soon enough, go harder again and tables are turned, regular EVs go into limp and their de facto range becomes single digit 😂
Anyone who ever drove a fun cool petrol smelling fast cars knows about rev matching. I drive an EV myself but ..i mean there is a point to the limiter and rev matching sounds :D
This is a sweet ride!
Perhaps the wider tires of this car has an impact on the range?
Also the /35 section is a killer for rolling resistance
I've heard a theory why the consumption is so high. As it is a performance car, it is "unacceptable" for the brakes to take a long time / long movement of the pedal to start breaking and therefore the gap between the brake disc and brake pads is very very small… which adds some friction. Basically, the car is braking all the time little bit.
Also, I think the difference between from charger and into battery is not about charger loses, these happen inside the battery (in the cells) and won't be measurable/visible. These are probably some other loads ‒ active battery heater / cooler, coolant pumps, electronics…
I find it extremely unlikely that the brake pad is in constant contact. All other potential problems aside, the pads wouldn't last long even if the contact was very light.
I don't think the high consumption is a big mystery. Wide high-performance tyres, adding quite a lot of rolling resistance, and the aerodynamic impact of having huge wheels with no aero covers, plus the extra drag from the extra cooling that they've added to allow for sustained track performance.
Bjorn, do you have access to a Kia EV3 already? I saw it on an autoshow a couple of weeks ago, and it looked like a great cheap-ish small-ish car with equipment that rivals a lot more expensive cars. I would be interested to see all the tests you do (range, 1000 km, banana-box, etc.), unfortunately no other youtube reviewer does similar kinds of tests. Having >80 kwh of battery for such a small car is very appealing to me, and also even the cheapest version has heat pump, and it's supposed to be rather economical, but on the other hand it charges kinda slow (130 kW for the bigger battery), so the 1000 km is going to be interesting.
No
That sound! 😆
Tyres, add 16cm wideness and rolling resistance, put the regular Ioniq5 tyres and do another test.
GTA screen 😀👍 6:24
This is a weekend track toy, not a daily, don't buy this for efficiency, you buy this for fun
But why is it build like a daily then? Could have made a 2 seater and proper track car not this strange hybrid of daily and track car. Range and Efficiency is really bad, can also expect cold gating in the winter. On this test it wasn't that cold and preheating the battery was already difficult.
Sales numbers show that most ppl. don't need this car. The Ioniq5 is not even in the top10 anymore.
A track toy with a weight of 2300kg. A nissan gtr is too heavy for the track and it is under 1900kg. This is just a TOY
It's a daily, just don't expect excellent efficiency as it's clearly designed with sport in mind.
Why you should buy an 70k€ and 2,3t SUV to do what? 2Laps?! this is not a track car. I would rather buy a model y LR for 50k and an old bimmer or cupra gor 20k if I would live near a track
@@hardywoodaway9912 do 2 laps, charge for about 20 minutes, take a break, do 2 laps, repeat for the entire day
Awesome
Hyundai electric vehicles automatically engage regenerative braking on downhill slopes
Higher consumtion than the NIO EL8😅
i was in norway last week and taxi drivers do not like evs why is this price range
I’m ok with fake gear as it’s an excellent reminder how fast you drive. The colour on the other hand is simply awful. I never understood this old lady pants choice… not that I know about old ladies pants. 😂
Well, soft winter tires in +4 and 275 mm wide as well, that will be terrible for consumption in any car. Retest in May and it will probably be closer to 250 than 300.
Also I noticed that in winter my (older) 5 uses a lot of energy short after starting a travel, but after 20 to 30 minutes the usage goes down. Something with battery management. When driving only short distances the usage is much higher than on long distance travels.
absolute button and info screen overkill - man, I don‘t get used to it anymore with so many buttons, infos, beeps, menues. No thanks.
Coasting is good. Sailing ⛵️ is not possible with Tesla. Even at the lowest setting of regen.
Isabel's legs will be sore after a long trip, so you will need to find her a "stand" to rest her legs on.
Did you experience this with your Anoris T2?
@@bjornnyland I experienced this with my son, and I see that Your daughter have her legs unsupported - the same way, my son had. :)
Probably a feature that gets used once and never again. Hopefully it doesn't cost them much to make it a feature. I sure wouldn't pay extra for it.
Horrendous efficiency!
14:49 "We didn't hit the sound barrier"... Did you mean breaking Mach 1? 😅 That would be around 1200 km/h... Maybe you can if you drive a Ford Mustang Mach-E? 😂
There is 16000km(10000 miles) on the odometer of that car, so it's far from new. So it's most likely lost a kWh or two in degradation.
1-3 % degradation after just 16k km? Really? That's bad.
@@bjornnyland a loaner/press car are seldom treated well as I'm sure you know. 😊
Impress machine, though.
1hr to refuel a vehicle, is at least 54min too long, it's a time that an EV driver will never get back, life's short, ain't nobody got time for that.
I rented '23 Polstar 2 from Hertz in London for 4 days, as I was interested in EV experience. Driving was fun, a lot of fun, but charging for someone who doesn't have a drive is a nightmare. 4hrs to get measly 426miles of ranage is an absolute joke + it was double the price of petrol I would need for my ICE (2010 1.75l 200hp Alfa 159) to run over the same distance. I need to buy a house for an EV to make sense... that's expensive 😕
World Best EV in same price range
15:55It’s a brick with pretty bad efficiency. I’d never consider it if given a choice of having Tesla as an option.
Aww shit
Dont use the N-Word😮😮😮!!!
shnell car
*Schnell
@@bjornnyland oh yea schnell
@@bjornnylandbut sehr durstig
@@hardywoodaway9912 Shouldn't that be watty, or amperagey? 😂
@@sargfowler9603 Right. "fatty watty" should be its nickname :D
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The only EV on the market that doesn't feels like a boat when the road turns.
It does feel like a boat. It weighs 2.3T. Duh!
I would suggest it still feels a lot more like a boat than a Lucid.
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These are rly catastrophical results. I would never consider this car
Sounds like a lot of excuses for poor range from sour Hyundai fanboys in the comments section. LMFAO SMH
@@KP-xi4bj We don't usually blame weight lifters for their slow 10km running records
@@soujigenba9602 More excuses. LMFAO SMH
bla-bla-bla... hate is the only thing you can do! Just accept you don't get it. )))
@@hey_guesswhat Don't you just hate running out of juice before making it to the next charging station? LMFAO SMH
In my opinion, it just seems like your intelligence level is low. This car is faster than a Lamborghini Urus. If you review a Lamborghini and talk about fuel efficiency, that just means you don't understand cars. And that’s exactly what you are 😭
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