I’m a student of the Black Business School as well i got my certificate of completion some years ago I was on the brink of starting my business and ended up falling in love with a woman for lack of better words I “shouldn’t” have thankfully we didn’t get married or have children, so now I’m a young black man from California living in Chicago and I’m basically starting off we’re I left…@drboyce if you ever see this comment I would love to speak just about a couple of moves to make to help me reach my goal. Iv bought one of your books some years ago as well and really kicked off everything starting with your videos from back in the day… I appreciate the conversation here and think great things well come for brothers out there tappin into this.
You were so good about everything. Especially monogamy. We are not in a tribe in this his country and not all tribes in Africa practice polygamy. Since he used scriptures, he didn’t mention that the scriptures speak against polygamy.
When you know better, you do better. We are not supposed to marry more than one person. But you are saying men should but women shouldn’t have more than one spouse. Which is far from the truth. People sleep around with others then yes you are marrying them through sexual encounters that is only for one husband and one wife. Teach the truth that it should stop altogether not make an excuse for men to have many wives.
I'm so glad that Dr. Boyce and all his seasoned wisdom and calmness was on this episode cuz Stevie was speaking noteworthy riddles and controversial phrases and then to say that he is not monogamous? - he just presented as an enigma trying to figure himself and life out. Please have him back in 3 yrs to see where he lands though!
Our black men need to stop talking about how a marriage license isn't necessary. Keep that same energy when your Daughter's boyfriend comes to you and tells you that he doesn't need to marry her. I need the license, the covenant and the life insurance policy. And shout out to Dr. Watkins who acknowledges that black women are beautiful! So refreshing to hear 🙂
EXACTLY 💯 I just said that to myself. Imagaine if these men have daughters and their boyfriends came to then and said they would like to have their daughters apart of their "kingdom" amongst 4, 5, 6 other women. Make children with them with no intention of marriage. I'm sure 99% of men with this red pill mentality would never want a man like that for their daughters.
Exactly! This hurts my heart! I am a newlywed and happily married to my black husband, who really values marriage. I think Black American Men should shadow True Alpha Married Men to see how they move in life with their families and business. I think their perspectives will change for the better after being around it. It's all about exposure.
Did he just say every woman had a husband but every king has a queen? Someone please tell him a husband has a wife. A wife is not some random woman. If you have a child with a woman who is not your wife or queen that child will be considered illegitimate or a bastard child. Monogamy is not going to feel “normal” to a man who isn’t a HUSBAND seeking a wife. Period.
I’m not aware of the Stevie guy, but I couldn’t get with him. He comes off as one of those fake woke guys that regurgitates alot random things he heard from other people to sound intelligent.
Exactly! Unfortunately, Stevie is the type of dude that would be on the TV show "Snapped" if he keeps playing around with these women. Smh. The only thing attractive about him is his looks. That's it!
Stevie Baggs lost me when he talked about his thoughts on marriage license. Dude believes in hitting it raw to have a baby but don't think marriage is just as important? GTFOOHWTBS
Stevie Baggs is very contradictory! I think some of his views are misaligned. When listening to him I was confused by a lot of his statements. Some people just be saying words. Dr. Boyce was looking like he was trying to figure out what he was saying.
Boyce’s face when he talks is hilarious… He is all over the place… he’s referencing scripture and talking about other practices and principles. The is typical “red-pill” behavior… it’s quite an exhausting dialogue 🫣
God never intended for a man to have multiple wives. The scripture about 7 women to one man was a prophetic curse. It was showing them a picture of the last days. It also shows us how this war on masculinity will end.
@@mspeachie268: like I recently told a friend, *it's like Black men use a spinning wheel to determine their religiousity, and a Magic 8 Ball to determine their morality* 🤦🏽♀️
OH MY GOODNESS, so many people don’t understand that! Since they don’t pay attention to the CONTEXT of those Biblical stories, they take the fact of polygamy in the Bible as it being condoned. No! The Bible isn’t just a book that tells us how to become saved and lead a Godly life, it also has historical stories that are examples of what NOT to do. Of what happens when man does their own thing instead of following God.
The prophecy says the curse was placed because men were unkind to each other. God judged man and women were collateral damage since we are under men since yall were made 1st. It was not because of feminism. Feminism would have no traction if their were strong, Godly men! Everyone we must Read all scriptures.
Shout-out to the hosts for controlling the pace of the show cause Baggs was very strong in his hotep-ness. Dr. Boyce was needed here for logical balance 😂
I've definitely been challenged in my thinking! I'm so grateful I stumbled upon this podcast. This episode was all that. Thank you, brothers, for putting out edifying content for both men and women. I appreciate you all!
Brothers!!! I’m so proud of you guys! This show was so good. Having different male perspectives that are so intelligent and genuine is priceless True images of the Black King ❤
Fantastic episode fellas! Y’all keep doing it bigger and better each time! The wisdom and jewels dropped from both men are priceless! 💎 Salute and respect kings 👑🤴🏽🫡 👊🏽💯🥃
I’m glad he touched on the step dad thing, because too many people simply can’t mind their business. Relationships end all the time and some people find love. Most the time it’s parents dating other parents, so why are so many people bothered by someone else choosing to date a parent?
It's talking about younger men with no kids,and this simp Boyce watkins tells those type of men to fill out step daddy applications for these damaged women who made a poor decision
@@riddickj16 So why would anyone be bothered by people attempting to mend them with marriage…? I’m not going to be upset by parents trying to get their Brady Bunch on. My mother married a single dad after divorce. They been married 20+years.
@@19Hollisterchick90 people are offended that our community builds and celebrate a culture of having blended families, instead of encouraging people to start their own families. Everyone bw thinks they can be Ciara and all the umar and dr Boyce’s of the community want most bm to be Russell
Did anyone notice that he said all the single women had the nice houses and all this money and the man comes in and he gets to be with the 7 women and never mentioned what the man brought to the table! It was all about what the women could do for the man!! They definitely brought the wrong two type of men on the show together. He tearing down marriage and why he doesnt believe it and blah blah blah sitting next to a man that has been in a successful marriage for years🤦🏾♀️! And when he said you married to who you sleep with was insane to me lol
Polyamory lifestyles are destructive and make everyone involved disloyal, undisciplined, and empty. If you can't be loyal and faithful to one you will never be loyal or faithful to many. Polyamory is polygamy and its vain, lust, filthy, and undisciplined behaviour. King Solomon's heart was turned from God and he lost his way because of polyamory. The average pookie & ray-ray can barely take care of themselves and can't do anything for a family? Every dude I know who's tried the polyamory game is now paying concubines child support because they left. Its sad people have to ignorantly learn the hard way.
I listen to alot of podcast daily, and I must say this is the best one out here. Thank you so much for providing much wisdom and knowledge from the different guests you have on here.
Facts! I’m learning so much from y’all channel God bless y’all, and I pray that God continues to lead y’all and points yall in the direction of topics that help inspire and help mend and heal our people within our communities!
Dr. Watkins was the real 💎 on this platform. I enjoyed his clear and consistent articulation of his line of thinking. ❤ Mr. Baggs line of thinking and perspectives came across scattered and inconsistent. But Mr Boyd kept the conversation engaging.
To those who say you don’t need a marriage license I always make the point… Being a husband or wife gives you legal rights and protection. Even in divorce, my mom was able to collect my dad’s social security after he passed away. They had been divorced 30 years.
Boyce nailed it on that first sentence. It’s very weird that a lot of our men think that way too. This is why I gravitate on true Alpha men like Earn Your Leisure, Tyler Perry, Dr. Boyce Watkins, and Roland Martin. They created their own lane and changed the trajectory in a positive way when it comes to financial literacy, mental health, education, and entertainment.
Good conversation. It is a blessing to have both parents and extended family to nature/support the children and relationships within the family The impact is felt when too many critical pieces are missing. Family is everything.
“The prefix of the word ‘bondage’ is ‘bond’.” What? No, it is not! Bruh, this Baggs guy distracts from the effectiveness of the conversation. He reminds me of the inmate character on “Living Color.”
OSWALD BATES!! "First of all, we must internalize the 'flatulation' of the matter by transmitting the effervescence of the 'Indianisian' proximity".... head azz. Like stop!
Long term, I think every Woman wants her children secured and not to have to struggle in Life. Women getting together to raise the children has been done in Africa, when are we going to require Men to step up and take real responsibility for the Families he creates ?
It's fascinating how younger men tend to lean towards polygamy (and self soothing) and OGs goes back to the basics. I wonder if testosterone levels contribute to these outlooks 🤔 Atp, I'm only interested in Law!!! That stuff that we always have to come back to after we've been allowed grace and freedom to roam and it didn't work💯
This was a thoughtful conversation to consider. Steve made some thought provoking points. Dr. Boyce is coming from a different perspective because he's married and Steve isn't, therefore, the views are coming from different angles.
Exactly my thoughts. Some of the stuff Steve said we might not agree with, but remember he said he's still growing and his thoughts was all he knew so he just need guidance from somewhere else
Wow, first let's get the likes 👍🏽 up, now, this was great. At 38 with 3 children, this is the stature at which black men need to be set. You don't have to agree with everything, but we as people need to be able to sit and talk differences out. Instead of violence music first should encourage more consciousness then how to defend yourselves. Big shout out to Baggs, very intelligent man. ✊🏾🌎
These two brothers had some very valid points and struck a cord on a deeper level for me. Trying to move and operate as a King is like playing chess. You have to have a plan followed by a strategy that will help you succeed in life. Thank you guys for airing this podcast🙏☝️🔥👑💪🤔🤯💥
He kept saying he still studying polygamy and I guess trying to get a better understanding of it , yet you saying it’s a better alternative. Educate yourself first , do it successfully and then convince that it’s better , that’s like telling someone riding a bike is easy but have never did it. Make that make sense 🤔. Black people race has the most single mother family household. Most of the time you see white people still with the woman that had kids with and same with Hispanics. And you now you want to introduce polygamy, how about we master staying with one person for a long time before trying to add 2 more people in the mix.
And polygamy = "the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time" *_How tf you value polygamy if you don't value marriage???"_*
I am surprised Dr Boyce didnt challenge the other brothers views on marriage and polygamy. I bet he wont have the same view if the woman was to have 6 husbands for the reasons he stated. Hes a good story teller, but no moral values in my opinion.
Dr. Boyce didn’t come back because he is a wise seasoned middle-aged old man and he has enough common sense to not go back-and-forth with youth that is in search of something clearly
I want to know what benefit those multiple women (who can qualify for high priced homes and have various other skill) will get from a man who can’t qualify for a house.
I love hearing both of these men speak. This guy is just deep , alot of people wont understand him and thats okay. Nobody comes on here for everyone to agree but alot of things needed to be said. Im glad they spoke on it today. I hope one day we can come to a point where black men and black women can love and respect each again. We are so divided when we dont need to be❤️
I agree 100% about being married once you lay down with someone. The way I see it is the penis is the “finger” that goes inside the vagina “hole” (which is a symbol of the hole of the ring) and that’s why having soul ties with someone becomes a real thing!
32:57 - I agree with Dr Boyce the internet is not a good indicator of what people are actually dealing with in their relationships. And mentioning structural barriers like high incarceration and the ratio of men to women is off. That’s the main problem.
Yeaaa I agree with the people.. Baggs was disqualified after he started talking about polygamy, he was trying to get back but it wasn’t giving. He so spiritual with no peace. All them spirits and not nan one holy. I’m praying for this bro tho ❤
That football player lost me, smh 🤦🏾♀️ Yes, soul ties exist, but there is such a thing called spiritual hygiene. Polygamy may have been the ways of yesteryear, but let's not overspiritualize your desire to be out here,...
As always, I rocks with Dr. Boyce. Brotha Baggs on the other hand is an acquired taste🤭. Baggs is way too macro for me. He was poignant at times but all over the conversational stratosphere with his analysis. Great episode guys once again 👌🏾👍🏾
Bingo Doc is right. Im 23 i remember being 14-15 telling me self i well never marry or date a non black women just knowing all the hardships they go thru. Nothing is more beautiful to me then to see a black women who is truly happen. Im against marrying out our race because it hurts us more then it does good. How can you possibly be from a black women and never wanna date them(I have seen this all my life n its crazy)
your guests were not here to pander to or kiss ass, the poor reviews and unkind comments in the comment section prove that...clearly your listeners don't want to hear it if it is not in their favour and especially if it calls for actual fairness towards both secxes
There’s Civil Law Marriage and Common Law Marriage…. Under civil… if you file for divorced… the Govt has the authority to deny your petition for divorce if the household has unpaid debt owed to the govt. Most people aren’t aware of the terms they agreed to in a contract/marriage license until they divorce.
I actually agree that a marriage doesn’t validate the union. I would much prefer a man provide me a land and acre and an insurance policy over a ring …
To the brother he wants more than 1 wife… can she have more than 1 husband? And you should be able to take what you put out and be able to give ALL of the same things whether they want it or not… financially emotionally mentally and physically if Not you shouldn’t be able to do it but because their are so many broken females who don’t know their POWER VALUE or WORTH you can be able to do… but should you do because you are able ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
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I’m a student of the Black Business School as well i got my certificate of completion some years ago I was on the brink of starting my business and ended up falling in love with a woman for lack of better words I “shouldn’t” have thankfully we didn’t get married or have children, so now I’m a young black man from California living in Chicago and I’m basically starting off we’re I left…@drboyce if you ever see this comment I would love to speak just about a couple of moves to make to help me reach my goal. Iv bought one of your books some years ago as well and really kicked off everything starting with your videos from back in the day… I appreciate the conversation here and think great things well come for brothers out there tappin into this.
You were the only one who made sense.
@@misunderstoodkj U are tellin the truth! Thankful for his seasoned wisdom and solid calmness
You were so good about everything. Especially monogamy. We are not in a tribe in this his country and not all tribes in Africa practice polygamy. Since he used scriptures, he didn’t mention that the scriptures speak against polygamy.
When you know better, you do better. We are not supposed to marry more than one person. But you are saying men should but women shouldn’t have more than one spouse. Which is far from the truth. People sleep around with others then yes you are marrying them through sexual encounters that is only for one husband and one wife. Teach the truth that it should stop altogether not make an excuse for men to have many wives.
I'm so glad that Dr. Boyce and all his seasoned wisdom and calmness was on this episode cuz Stevie was speaking noteworthy riddles and controversial phrases and then to say that he is not monogamous? - he just presented as an enigma trying to figure himself and life out. Please have him back in 3 yrs to see where he lands though!
Yeah bro was only there to show how much Dr. B HAS GROWN AS A MAN lol
Facts!!! I appreciate his perspective so much.
My exact sentiments!!!!!!!
THANK YOU! EXACTLY
So true. He's learning under someone or some people. He's repeating what he's heard. He's a bit immature right now, talking about some coochie 😅.
Our black men need to stop talking about how a marriage license isn't necessary. Keep that same energy when your Daughter's boyfriend comes to you and tells you that he doesn't need to marry her. I need the license, the covenant and the life insurance policy. And shout out to Dr. Watkins who acknowledges that black women are beautiful! So refreshing to hear 🙂
EXACTLY 💯 I just said that to myself. Imagaine if these men have daughters and their boyfriends came to then and said they would like to have their daughters apart of their "kingdom" amongst 4, 5, 6 other women. Make children with them with no intention of marriage. I'm sure 99% of men with this red pill mentality would never want a man like that for their daughters.
@@NMP86579 💯
Exactly! This hurts my heart! I am a newlywed and happily married to my black husband, who really values marriage. I think Black American Men should shadow True Alpha Married Men to see how they move in life with their families and business. I think their perspectives will change for the better after being around it. It's all about exposure.
😂💀⚰️ I’m CACKLING bc it’s true and a great read 😂😂😂😂😂
I bet all u chicks are single
Did he just say every woman had a husband but every king has a queen?
Someone please tell him a husband has a wife. A wife is not some random woman. If you have a child with a woman who is not your wife or queen that child will be considered illegitimate or a bastard child.
Monogamy is not going to feel “normal” to a man who isn’t a HUSBAND seeking a wife. Period.
Thank You
I’m not aware of the Stevie guy, but I couldn’t get with him. He comes off as one of those fake woke guys that regurgitates alot random things he heard from other people to sound intelligent.
Exactly! Unfortunately, Stevie is the type of dude that would be on the TV show "Snapped" if he keeps playing around with these women. Smh. The only thing attractive about him is his looks. That's it!
Yep!
Right! Talking about Yah and age of Aquarius don't mix. It's important to vet your guests. The blind leading the blind...
I think football has damaged his brain!! 😵💫😵💫
Can’t unsee it now
Stevie Baggs lost me when he talked about his thoughts on marriage license. Dude believes in hitting it raw to have a baby but don't think marriage is just as important? GTFOOHWTBS
Right!!! 💯 Make it make sense!!!
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I don't believe any man that wears a medallion. #pimp
Disrespectful to the woman and future child. Super selfish
Stevie Baggs is very contradictory! I think some of his views are misaligned. When listening to him I was confused by a lot of his statements. Some people just be saying words. Dr. Boyce was looking like he was trying to figure out what he was saying.
Same…
Boyce’s face when he talks is hilarious…
He is all over the place… he’s referencing scripture and talking about other practices and principles.
The is typical “red-pill” behavior… it’s quite an exhausting dialogue 🫣
Deadass
Facts...whew. .so many contradictions....
Facts!!!!
Right! I’m trying to figure out is he Christian… is he Muslim? Is he a Hotep? Like what is going on😂
@SarahEg91
😂😂😂 Funny/Not Funny 😩
God never intended for a man to have multiple wives. The scripture about 7 women to one man was a prophetic curse. It was showing them a picture of the last days. It also shows us how this war on masculinity will end.
Yep Ishaiah 4:1
I’m glad I’m not the only one that picked that up! I was like whet?
@@mspeachie268: like I recently told a friend, *it's like Black men use a spinning wheel to determine their religiousity, and a Magic 8 Ball to determine their morality* 🤦🏽♀️
OH MY GOODNESS, so many people don’t understand that! Since they don’t pay attention to the CONTEXT of those Biblical stories, they take the fact of polygamy in the Bible as it being condoned. No! The Bible isn’t just a book that tells us how to become saved and lead a Godly life, it also has historical stories that are examples of what NOT to do. Of what happens when man does their own thing instead of following God.
The prophecy says the curse was placed because men were unkind to each other. God judged man and women were collateral damage since we are under men since yall were made 1st. It was not because of feminism. Feminism would have no traction if their were strong, Godly men! Everyone we must Read all scriptures.
This is a prime example of operating in Wisdom (Boyce) and operating in knowledge (Bragg). They are not the same!!!
Knowledge = justified true belief. That dude is operating in opinion.
Shout-out to the hosts for controlling the pace of the show cause Baggs was very strong in his hotep-ness. Dr. Boyce was needed here for logical balance 😂
I've definitely been challenged in my thinking! I'm so grateful I stumbled upon this podcast. This episode was all that. Thank you, brothers, for putting out edifying content for both men and women. I appreciate you all!
Um don't bring back Stevie Baggs. He started talking about Polygamy. Smh
Exactly
He said the beginning of contract begins with con. What about content, continue, connection? Are these words a con too?
Or consistency 🧐
@@Nitra813😂 something he greatly lacked in his responses
😂😂 JCAH (first word “just”, third word “as”, last word “h.ell”)
@@JessOhio2013 😂 hilarious!
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Brothers!!! I’m so proud of you guys! This show was so good. Having different male perspectives that are so intelligent and genuine is priceless True images of the Black King ❤
Fantastic episode fellas! Y’all keep doing it bigger and better each time! The wisdom and jewels dropped from both men are priceless! 💎 Salute and respect kings 👑🤴🏽🫡 👊🏽💯🥃
Dr. Watkins is a real gem. Had to come back and comment. Great choice!
I’m glad he touched on the step dad thing, because too many people simply can’t mind their business. Relationships end all the time and some people find love. Most the time it’s parents dating other parents, so why are so many people bothered by someone else choosing to date a parent?
It's talking about younger men with no kids,and this simp Boyce watkins tells those type of men to fill out step daddy applications for these damaged women who made a poor decision
Because broken homes is a issue in the black community.
@@riddickj16 So why would anyone be bothered by people attempting to mend them with marriage…? I’m not going to be upset by parents trying to get their Brady Bunch on. My mother married a single dad after divorce. They been married 20+years.
@@19Hollisterchick90 people are offended that our community builds and celebrate a culture of having blended families, instead of encouraging people to start their own families. Everyone bw thinks they can be Ciara and all the umar and dr Boyce’s of the community want most bm to be Russell
@@riddickj16 Oh, you’re one of those? I’ll just exit the conversation.
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Did anyone notice that he said all the single women had the nice houses and all this money and the man comes in and he gets to be with the 7 women and never mentioned what the man brought to the table! It was all about what the women could do for the man!!
They definitely brought the wrong two type of men on the show together. He tearing down marriage and why he doesnt believe it and blah blah blah sitting next to a man that has been in a successful marriage for years🤦🏾♀️! And when he said you married to who you sleep with was insane to me lol
I was wondering what was wrong with ol boy. It made sense why he thinks how he thinks after he said what he said about his baby mama
Right?! 😅
I agree!! Stevie made my head hurt!
@@brittanyb5942 lol talkin alot and not sayin anything lol. I couldn't even finish the whole video lol
@@Nitra813 he was somethin else lol
Polyamory lifestyles are destructive and make everyone involved disloyal, undisciplined, and empty. If you can't be loyal and faithful to one you will never be loyal or faithful to many. Polyamory is polygamy and its vain, lust, filthy, and undisciplined behaviour. King Solomon's heart was turned from God and he lost his way because of polyamory. The average pookie & ray-ray can barely take care of themselves and can't do anything for a family? Every dude I know who's tried the polyamory game is now paying concubines child support because they left. Its sad people have to ignorantly learn the hard way.
Thank uu
Baggs needs to go somewhere with the Roman and romantic and Gentile and gentlemen analogies.
😂😂
😂. So unnecessary and pointless. But overall great conversation
😂😂 Right?! This fool!
All I heard was him sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher after awhile.. WAH WAH WAH-- WAH WAH WAH..
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I listen to alot of podcast daily, and I must say this is the best one out here. Thank you so much for providing much wisdom and knowledge from the different guests you have on here.
Wow! Such a great conversation! I love loved listening to the different perspectives! Great job!
He has metaphored me to death! Can you speak in a complete sentence, bro? 😂
Facts!!! I can’t listen to another metaphor
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Yessss. I was just hoping they would mute his mic.
Man. I’m trying to keep up with y’all content. It’s too many good videos coming out back to back 😂
Facts! I’m learning so much from y’all channel God bless y’all, and I pray that God continues to lead y’all and points yall in the direction of topics that help inspire and help mend and heal our people within our communities!
So many facts were said in this episode. I love seeing strong Blk men go against the norm(popular), and make the righteous way THE WAY
Dr. Watkins was the real 💎 on this platform. I enjoyed his clear and consistent articulation of his line of thinking. ❤
Mr. Baggs line of thinking and perspectives came across scattered and inconsistent. But Mr Boyd kept the conversation engaging.
To those who say you don’t need a marriage license I always make the point… Being a husband or wife gives you legal rights and protection. Even in divorce, my mom was able to collect my dad’s social security after he passed away. They had been divorced 30 years.
Boyce nailed it on that first sentence. It’s very weird that a lot of our men think that way too. This is why I gravitate on true Alpha men like Earn Your Leisure, Tyler Perry, Dr. Boyce Watkins, and Roland Martin. They created their own lane and changed the trajectory in a positive way when it comes to financial literacy, mental health, education, and entertainment.
Good conversation. It is a blessing to have both parents and extended family to nature/support the children and relationships within the family The impact is felt when too many critical pieces are missing. Family is everything.
“The prefix of the word ‘bondage’ is ‘bond’.” What? No, it is not! Bruh, this Baggs guy distracts from the effectiveness of the conversation. He reminds me of the inmate character on “Living Color.”
Not the inmate on In Living Color 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this just sent me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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OSWALD BATES!!
"First of all, we must internalize the 'flatulation' of the matter by transmitting the effervescence of the 'Indianisian' proximity".... head azz. Like stop!
@@sinverrette9803 Yes, that is his name! 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂Yesss, you just nailed it! Inmate mentality!
One of the best advice I have heard - be careful how you judge people because you never know what people have gone through
YES BLACK MEN YOU MUST PROTECT AND PROVIDE
Exactly, you don't know. We are NOT into sharing. So what is he "saying"? Love the accountability fact, from Dr. Watkins
Easily one of my favorite episodes by y’all. Y’all got me empowered and proud 👏🏾✊🏾
The intro with Dr Boyce talking about another man determining what the next man does. Whew!!
Great convo!!! Can’t trust a man that talks in riddles I’m sorry Loll
Long term, I think every Woman wants her children secured and not to have to struggle in Life. Women getting together to raise the children has been done in Africa, when are we going to require Men to step up and take real responsibility for the Families he creates ?
I think women are by pursuing child support but they're even evading that _(quit jobs/ deliberately make less money),_ so... 🤷🏽♀️ I quit them tho lol
Too good. I love balance between both perspectives. Y’all barely spoke this episode lol soaking it all in💪🏾
Dr Boyce had to keep from laughing at the other guy 😂
“I think we should be careful about judging other people’s choices.”
~Dr. Watkins
Thank you, sir.
True but he is the main one to judge so that’s my main issue with him
It's fascinating how younger men tend to lean towards polygamy (and self soothing) and OGs goes back to the basics. I wonder if testosterone levels contribute to these outlooks 🤔
Atp, I'm only interested in Law!!! That stuff that we always have to come back to after we've been allowed grace and freedom to roam and it didn't work💯
The exact point when Dr Boyce wasn't wit the bs...😅 😂😂😂 I see you my Gemini brother!🎉🎉😅😅😅
Fantastic Episode very insightful!! Sometimes the truth hurts! Facts over Fiction!
This was a nice show love the different prospectives and great points were mentioned
I have been listening to your podcast and guedt.Topics are so relevant
This was a thoughtful conversation to consider. Steve made some thought provoking points.
Dr. Boyce is coming from a different perspective because he's married and Steve isn't, therefore, the views are coming from different angles.
Exactly my thoughts. Some of the stuff Steve said we might not agree with, but remember he said he's still growing and his thoughts was all he knew so he just need guidance from somewhere else
Kudos to Dr. Boyce on Black love 🖤
I got lost with romantic > Roman and gentleman > Gentile
Same!! It was the stupidest thing I have ever heard 😵💫😵💫
Great discussion and great introspection, Dr Boyce .
Stevie said I'm not a gentleman because I'm not a Gentile, 😂😂😂 I'm done 👀
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How did they not bust out laugging
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This Steve guy needs to never come back..
Stevie was thinking about what he was finna say next the whole time 😂😂😂 He was not listening lol
Wow, first let's get the likes 👍🏽 up, now, this was great. At 38 with 3 children, this is the stature at which black men need to be set. You don't have to agree with everything, but we as people need to be able to sit and talk differences out. Instead of violence music first should encourage more consciousness then how to defend yourselves. Big shout out to Baggs, very intelligent man. ✊🏾🌎
These two brothers had some very valid points and struck a cord on a deeper level for me. Trying to move and operate as a King is like playing chess. You have to have a plan followed by a strategy that will help you succeed in life. Thank you guys for airing this podcast🙏☝️🔥👑💪🤔🤯💥
Great men! I really enjoy your show. Thank you for educating black women. Keep up up the good work 👍
An amazing and affirming conversation ❤
Thank you my brother for uplifting our black queens we Rae indeed special
Excellent episode. Thanks to the guests. Continued success with your platform.
Episode was fire🔥🔥 with a lot of Gems!💪🏽 Thanks Kings! 💪🏽
All right, fake Okonkwo irritates me the more he speaks.
He kept saying he still studying polygamy and I guess trying to get a better understanding of it , yet you saying it’s a better alternative. Educate yourself first , do it successfully and then convince that it’s better , that’s like telling someone riding a bike is easy but have never did it. Make that make sense 🤔. Black people race has the most single mother family household. Most of the time you see white people still with the woman that had kids with and same with Hispanics. And you now you want to introduce polygamy, how about we master staying with one person for a long time before trying to add 2 more people in the mix.
#Facts 😳… we need to relate to God first, then make peace with ourselves, and then attempt to relate to ONE other person in covenant
And polygamy = "the practice or custom of having more than one wife or husband at the same time"
*_How tf you value polygamy if you don't value marriage???"_*
I am surprised Dr Boyce didnt challenge the other brothers views on marriage and polygamy. I bet he wont have the same view if the woman was to have 6 husbands for the reasons he stated. Hes a good story teller, but no moral values in my opinion.
Dr. Boyce didn’t come back because he is a wise seasoned middle-aged old man and he has enough common sense to not go back-and-forth with youth that is in search of something clearly
@@NBnNCexactly. An example of picking your battles.
💯Brothers dropping gems 💎 #manhood #trauma #mindsets
Don’t pick the fruit off the tree until ripe. Not a second sooner. The fruit quality is very different.
You are attract who you are! You are correct! That’s good!!!
That's not true tho.
Loving the content guys.
Thaaaaaank God for this panel!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s go BMen❤
I want to know what benefit those multiple women (who can qualify for high priced homes and have various other skill) will get from a man who can’t qualify for a house.
Nothing, I believe some men romanticize polygamy. His scenario is unrealistic. A woman's natural hypergamy will always make its presence.
Powerful show is an understatement 💯🔥✊🏾🙏🏾much love for the game
Honestly another great conversation 🔥🙌🏾
Men should do whatever works for that particular individual!
Not really a fan of Boyce Watkins but this is great content! Keep the good episodes coming!! 🎉🙌🏾❤️
5150?
My favorite Dr. Boyce Watkins; I didn't allow the internet drama to diminish his voice in my head; this man is brilliant & I don't need a gold star!!!
So true!! Very different backgrounds.. great content!!
I love hearing both of these men speak. This guy is just deep , alot of people wont understand him and thats okay. Nobody comes on here for everyone to agree but alot of things needed to be said. Im glad they spoke on it today. I hope one day we can come to a point where black men and black women can love and respect each again. We are so divided when we dont need to be❤️
Only the chosen will connect to this message!!!
I swear I've seen a Chappelle skit with Stevies rhetoric...he loves playing with words.
I agree 100% about being married once you lay down with someone. The way I see it is the penis is the “finger” that goes inside the vagina “hole” (which is a symbol of the hole of the ring) and that’s why having soul ties with someone becomes a real thing!
32:57 - I agree with Dr Boyce the internet is not a good indicator of what people are actually dealing with in their relationships. And mentioning structural barriers like high incarceration and the ratio of men to women is off. That’s the main problem.
Yeaaa I agree with the people.. Baggs was disqualified after he started talking about polygamy, he was trying to get back but it wasn’t giving. He so spiritual with no peace. All them spirits and not nan one holy. I’m praying for this bro tho ❤
I wish yall interviewed Boyce alone! Idk what Steve is talking about he’s all over the place 😅
The Power is truly within❤
That football player lost me, smh 🤦🏾♀️ Yes, soul ties exist, but there is such a thing called spiritual hygiene.
Polygamy may have been the ways of yesteryear, but let's not overspiritualize your desire to be out here,...
He's mixing the truth and lies... you have to really listen and the contradiction of his speech just shows that he's saying BS
He’s crazy!
As always, I rocks with Dr. Boyce. Brotha Baggs on the other hand is an acquired taste🤭. Baggs is way too macro for me. He was poignant at times but all over the conversational stratosphere with his analysis. Great episode guys once again 👌🏾👍🏾
guy in the vacation shirt needs to find his own voice and stop repeating other peoples talking points.
NOT VACATION SHIRT 😂
_I thought the same tho_
Bingo Doc is right. Im 23 i remember being 14-15 telling me self i well never marry or date a non black women just knowing all the hardships they go thru. Nothing is more beautiful to me then to see a black women who is truly happen. Im against marrying out our race because it hurts us more then it does good. How can you possibly be from a black women and never wanna date them(I have seen this all my life n its crazy)
Brother Baggs is dangerous.. he using his words and the Bible .. he’s crazy
your guests were not here to pander to or kiss ass, the poor reviews and unkind comments in the comment section prove that...clearly your listeners don't want to hear it if it is not in their favour and especially if it calls for actual fairness towards both secxes
This fool stevie 🤣 😒 🙄 😑 😂 🤦🏾
Proverbs 29:11 “A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards”
He thinks he is “unprogrammed” when he just has downloaded a different program and doesn’t even realize it 😂
Lol😊 omg! 😂 I can’t!!! So true! His mommy mad!
@@biancawhite-ev8ep 😭😭😭
Children Only come first if you are NOT married! If you married your spouse comes first
There’s Civil Law Marriage and Common Law Marriage…. Under civil… if you file for divorced… the Govt has the authority to deny your petition for divorce if the household has unpaid debt owed to the govt.
Most people aren’t aware of the terms they agreed to in a contract/marriage license until they divorce.
So what is the suitable word to take the place of the word romance?
I absolutely loved this episode ❤
Anything worth having you're going to make sacrifices
I actually agree that a marriage doesn’t validate the union. I would much prefer a man provide me a land and acre and an insurance policy over a ring …
To the brother he wants more than 1 wife… can she have more than 1 husband? And you should be able to take what you put out and be able to give ALL of the same things whether they want it or not… financially emotionally mentally and physically if Not you shouldn’t be able to do it but because their are so many broken females who don’t know their POWER VALUE or WORTH you can be able to do… but should you do because you are able ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
Spiritual Credit Score; Now, that's a new line of questioning; right there!!!
Stevie Baggs from BET’s Ruthless