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So there are truths on both sides. So I think something to be considered is to look for a healed, respectful, and considerate spouse. Then, each gender needs to focus on turning around their base and youth for the better, thus producing better outcomes. Also, it was stated to create more economic bridges amongst ourselves and the diaspora. If we can create jobs, we won't have to be forced to work where we don't enjoy. We just need to work on the respect portion. Where there are opportunities or ideas, there is revenue. Lastly, we can like nice things, but we give stacks away for vague status symbols that don't age well as assets, i.e., chains, shoes, and name brand clothing. We should be trying to produce our own. This dialog was dope none the less.
Dr. Umar is talking in circles. He keeps speaking on systemic and discrediting the individualism. But it starts with the individual. If each individual takes responsibility, won't it carry over to systemic changes?
Did the brother actually ask "are we racist for dating within our own race?" This goes to show that many people doesn't know what racism actually means
King here is what he meant, but he worded the question wrong. Some/most people have asked "Am I a racist if I prefer or choose to date within my race, but not outside my race"? Some people will say that it is racist and some people will say that it is not racist.
@@heyyashleyyy2669😒…tf you mean? It’s HELLA men that speak up for women. Hell it’s a BUNCH of men in jail RIGHT NOW over defending a woman. Black men‼️over a Black Woman‼️ so stop your bullshit right now 😒🤦🏾♂️
Why is it so hard for Black people to see the damage that has been done? These young men fought him tooth and nail about things that are so obvious.🤦🏽♀️
Because Dr umar is a fraud. He promotes not dating out but he likes white women too. He's been collecting funding for a school he's never gonna build. He's a capper. He blames black men for the problems black women and Feminism created
What happens when a smart man is speaking. The average minded man will start doing exactly what they accuse women of doing, listening to respond and responding emotionally.
Individualism has plagued the black community so much that these men could even stop themselves from spewing out individualistic ideologies and I’m so glad dr umar called it out every single time they did it
Completely agree with this. It was as if it kept going over their heads. Think bigger, and dream bigger! Gender wars gets us no where, and fast. As long as we stay divided there is unlikely to be any progress for the black race, globally.
Glad you caught that too. Dr Umar is quick witted and able to pick up on that. Plus his message about community is actually better for traditional values than what the hosts talk about which is "me, myself and I."
I’m not dating no single mother my nigga. I rock wit Dr. Umar on a lot of things but THIS RIGHT HERE????….No…I 100% refuse. Basically this nigga want us to sacrifice ourselves to be a father to bunch of kids we ain’t even help make…all for the “black community” that don’t even give a f*ck about them own gahdam selves 🤦🏾♂️😒
Man, it's crazy that Dr. Umar spent over an half an hour trying to drill in individualism vs. community, and they still couldn't get it. They just kept going back to themselves. How conceited can you be? As a man who may not check up all boxes of what he deeds being for our community, I totally agree with him. Black men need to stop worrying about what blame black women has and focus on what we can improve upon ourselves starting with our young men.
I understand the notion of community. But if everyone did their own individual part, then the community would fall in line. Our problem is that we focus too much on the community and not individual achievement.
@@ericwatkins4581 That's not true. Look at all the successful people that we know about that does right by them and their family but sell the rest of the community out. We have tons of black successful Republicans (not conversative leaning so we don't confuse the two) who work to sell lies about how American treats black systematically. We have black successful democrats who suckers us into fighting for everyone but ourselves. Look at Jay Z who lead us to vote for people like Hillary Clinton or got us to fall back against the NFL. And this is all while being paid by these groups. And this happens to us on all levels and on all sides. Black people scattered all over the place over what they "believe" which is why we have no political power. This is what happens when you focus on too much as an individual and none as an community. As a community, less people gets left behind and ends up being a pookie and rayray to be a poison to the community. As an individualism, you care less about them and leave them to be a detriment to our kids and grandkid's future which is part of the american system.
@ericwatkins4581 and what if people never do their part? Do you just wash your hands of the bc and walk away? He's saying people are just sitting around talking about this person and that person- that won't change ANYTHING. We need the leaders in the community to stand up and take action. When bw standup and and try to lead you say we are masculine. We need the rightful leaders to take their place at the forefront of the community.
@@akosuamvotyo1655no bittnerness here. Just a fact. If you need other people to validate your feelings about something then that thing you feel is not strong at all. Using data to validate your feelings is different than using the words of a race hustler like Dr. Umar. This man raised $5 million in donations to re-open a school in Virginia and then conveniently never opened it. He stole $5 million from his own people that donated. He is using the black community to further his pocket just like 99% of black activists. So to use his rhetoric to "justify your feelings" means that your feelings are weak and would crumble on their own. Just the truth.
Disgusting! If whites would sit in a circle and talk like this you would call it a rascist KKK meeting. Stop blaming others for your failure take your head out your ass and change your life and stop crying
@@tj5429 he produces exactly the oppossite, its reducing yourself to being black and then tells you you are being oppressed and being sabotaged, like your not going to the same schools like everybody else , have to work hard to make something out of you like everybody else, the only thing you are opressed by is by the people telling you youll never make it and that no matter what youll do it will all be useless, THATS oppressing and mr. Umar seems to have a black belt in it.
They got it but it didn’t make much sense towards humans you can’t control humans ,you have a good guy available but you still chose the pookie what sense that makes which go back to accountability have to fix your home before you fix a community
This interview made me cry as a Caribbean Black woman with african slavery in her DNA....as a woman who had no Dad around or male figure to speak these truths....😢😢😢😢......may this kind of conversation grow into a movement
Hi lovelymiss, Caribbean woman here too. It was so sad hearing This Alpha trying to make these young pup understand. They were given an opportunity to address and join forces with his mission to build. They might have been raised by single mothers and if that’s the case they should have been able to identify and comprehend what it is he is trying to say and do. It’s all demonic and diabolical the attack on the women initially black women but now even women of all races.
As a South African black Zulu men, this touched me. We need to do better as men. This war between black men and women is unnecessary. At the end of the day, we both at the bottom of the food chain. From now on, I'm done blaming black women for our societal problems and taking responsibility. Amandla ✊🇿🇦 Shaka Zulu: iLembe
I concur that the war between Black men and women is redundant. You’re also right that at the beginning, middle, and end of the day we are still at the bottom.
@@postalcode63you are because most women are sexually irresponsible because black men have r-ped us and harmed us starting as children. 80% of black girls are sexually harmed by black peers by the time they are 13.
That brother could NOT stop thinking about my household , my wife , my child. This is where the separation starts. Who will be a part of the revolution and who wants to ignore it.
You can socially punish people for something they didn’t do the way yall come down on black men especially ones who ain’t do nothing to nobody no wonder they don’t listen to yall
I love this man!!! I’m in tears because I’ve NEVER had a man to this caliber in my personal space. He spoke everything in my mind and heart about us!!!
It wasn't a problem in the 40s you blacks led the way in morality and righteousness in your marriages, neighborhoods, and your privately owned businesses that you traded for black leaders, projects and welfare
Trauma happened to all races all in the world. White people were slaves too. All races have started at the bottom and still managed to succeed. It’s about personal choices nothing systemic is holding anyone back
No we don’t. Ain’t no one building up the community. We are weak and useless when it comes to that. We been free we been knew this info. We live the life we want.
Umar is a genius because he is a psychologist. He knows that 10 people can do the same thing, and if you asked them why, you would get ten different reasons. That's just for simple tasks. Choosing who you love is the most complicated thing you can do as a human being. He's gaslighting black America for fame. If he could predict why people behave the way they do simply based on observation, He would be a billionaire with a noble peace prize. Love who you want. Life is short. Don't miss out on true love over race. Or do that's on you. Ignorance is bliss. 😢
“This is a man issue. Leave the woman out of it. It we go out as black men to raise these black boys-women will respect it”…. Period! This warmed my heart. Thank you Dr. Umar
Why are people still pushing that narrative that black men aren’t raising their children though? The CDC has reported that black men are the most active fathers in their children’s lives of all demographics whether they are married to the mothers or not.
Right! They love to say BW are not feminine, but these dudes out here whining like females and complaining. It's a turn off! Real men know how to handle women and put us in our place🤷🏾♀️.
They can't. They won't. They love caucazoid females too much . A white woman CAN'T raise a Black child. Black males won't let them or the illusion of them go.
One thing that hits home and I believe in a 100 percent . We BLACK MEN MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ACTIONS. Some of the conditions we see in our young male youth today probably wouldn't be to the extent that it is today if we took responsibility. So I totally agree with the discussion fully on that point.
Shout out to you for saying that. We as black men must take responsibility. This individualistic mindset has to stop. Remember, there’s a reason God made man the head of the house. It is our responsibility to lead and that comes with the good and bad. I learned that from my Dad. Shout out to you Pops…
💪🏿... I clearly heard Dr.Umar said that the CIA lady to in to infiltrate the black family with feminism (and it worked), then welfare, abortion, child support, liberation & independence etc.etc ... Those were "choices" that were made by "women", which the young man was attempting to relay his point, but was over talked. Men and Women need to apologize to each other. PERIOD.❤️
@@troydilworth8789 Beloved, it's crucial to understand the welfare system and child support within the larger context of the system that has been created. These systems you mentioned trace back to slavery, Jim Crow laws, and mass incarceration, all aimed at dismantling the power of black families and communities. To suggest that this is solely about individual choice overlooks the institutionalized nature of this system and how it has been ingrained in our Americanized culture. I understand where you're coming from, and I respect your perspective that individual choice does play a part. That being said, it's worth noting the contradiction in the arguments made by the person in question. They mention "pookie and ray ray" but lack the consciousness of attracting "BoQuisha and sha sha." It's important for both men and women to reflect on their own reasons for choosing these mates and address any underlying biases or beliefs that may be influencing their choices. As Umar was saying, we need to zoom out and focus on the bigger picture - the system that forces both men and women into certain choices. It's like the Adam and Eve story, where they turned against each other instead of addressing the real issue. This sneaky snake of a system destroys our sense of self and blocks our ability to truly see and understand each other. And let's not forget, it strips us of our power. So, while individual choices do matter, we can't overlook the destructive force of this system that have forced us into choices out of survival and out of response to our emotional, historical, and collective trauma. We have to dismantle these Jim Crow laws that turn us against each other and come together!
@@karajames6216 ... Right on. Both men and women must admit and confess to our faults. PERIOD. Dr. Umar cannot campaign for MEN to be held accountable alone. Women will NEVER change if they are only waiting on. Men to fix this. They chose to be single parents, and if it's NOT a choice then they should choose to have a man. Return to the Father and the Father will return to you. He simped out with those young men. Promotion of simping will only justify females behavior. Learn from this.
Dr. Umar missed the ball berating black men meanwhile Hispanics and asian women all date interracially more than we do as BM 🙄🤡 he just be talking sometimes
@@dntn3026 look up the stats yourself, I got my own nonprofit too goof, it’s not hard to put in work I bet you lack resume at all. Yet TALKING, Asian women marry interracially the most 36% and Hispanics men and women both marry at higher rates than us. Umar was just talking
Ive never been so frustrated with an interviewer. Dr Umar broke it down several times and stated this is not about individualism but systematically.. and he continues to revert back to hisself and what he has experienced and doesnt want and yet again gaslighting black women. Never the bigger picture in what the Dr was trying to shove down his throat. Good job Dr Umar. We understood even if they didnt.
He eventually came around but that's how strong the programming is and that is just a glimpse of what we're up against. Which is why his school is so important -> Easier to build strong men than repair broken ones
I mostly look at dr. Umar Johnson as the Broken Clock. He's right about twice a day. There are plenty of things that I can say that I don't agree with but I definitely agree with him on the point that he was making about systemic issues that have destroyed black boys and black men are not taking accountability for them. On top of that, black men want to blame black women for ending up with black men who are not healed when black men have not taken an overall role in making sure that Pookie and Ray-Ray do not exist in the first place. I will not discount white supremacy because it played a huge role in the decimation of our communities, but I have a huge problem with any black man who wants to continually blame black women for the issues that we face as a community and they not take accountability. Like dr. Umar Johnson said, if two-thirds of women are raising children by themselves, how do you black man not see a larger problem? Why does it always have to end up with it's her choice? It's like if you sit down at a restaurant and they hand you a menu and the only thing they serve are hamburgers, the only thing you're going to eat is a hamburger. With that analogy, if the majority of black men that black women are presented with are not healed black men, how do you expect black women to be with a black man on a larger scale who is healed and whole and able to provide for family? I believe that black women need to do better but I damn sure will not allow white supremacist talking points from black men to continually black Gaslight black women in believing that every issue in her life is her fault. This is what the manosphere does all day long and it needs to stop.
What’s crazy is MOST Black interviewers do the same thing🤦🏽♂️It’s annoying AF and almost seems 🤔”Systematic” plus that’s that up north black dude mentality, it’s sickening
These young men have no clue...Dr. Umar is so on point. They are literally blocking out where this man is coming from which is the problem now accountability
Umar Johnson is a virtue signaling hypocrite. He's got 2 kids with 2 baby mamas and doesn't even live by his own standards. Black men aren't the ones who broke up the households that was black women. Black women wanted to be like white women and show they didn't need and man and now fast forward 50 years later black women are blaming black men for their own idiotic decision. See what black women like to do is gaslight everybody into believing their victims even when they're the main facilitator of their own downfall.
I don’t agree with a lot that Dr umar says but I do agree with what he was saying about why women are that way they are. I don’t agree all is systemic though. Many black men left a poorer woman with his kids and went to another who was able to take care of him. He cares nothing about the kids or gave her money for nothing. She had to go welfare to get food. The one guy with the braids hates black women. I do not see it in the cards that he will select one do we might as well give him his walking papers. He is trying to blame them for him not finding a “feminine” woman and we all out here killing ourselves to raise these hardheaded black boys alone. He is so self centered it is irritating. He is not even listening. Still saying the same ish!!
A big part of Dr Umar’s solutions are service based. In order for people to take the actions he suggests, the willingness to serve and be apart of a community has to increase. Fire interview🔥
Yessss, I use to yell this all the time. The focus should be on our children not how many children a single mother has. The children will soon be the leaders of the future!
Umar simped for women because his main audience is women. Women choose who gets to be a father. They decide the caliber of man they lie with..and raise. They are the first nurturers and teachers. If you choose..and raise a man of low caliber..those will be the choices they have when it comes to men, later.
@BrownSpiderAdventures It is the BM's fault, though. BM sold their people into slavery and were so stupid that they got caught up in the same system. BM complain about the consequences of their failure but are too lazy and stupid to actually do anything about them. Nobody told BM they have to be failures. They have chosen to be in the position they are in -- even on their continent, where they make up the majority male group.
@@catherineprince5345 They aren't that young. They appear to be in their 30's. Their mentality is not an age thing. It's a conquered BM thing. Every other group of people -- including women (of all races) -- know what's up. Stop making excuses for the BM's stupidity.
Initially coming with 'Some' - 'Some Historical Facts'; yet, in the end, have nothing substantial to validate or make real their/your points of views. Applying to: Allah, Buddha, Jah, Jesus, Krishna, Yahweh And All The Rest (Umar Johnson...etc..): Even as an updated point of view: my take on it is that Blacks as a whole (especially as applying to both African and American Blacks [maybe one more so than the other and vice versa]) we fail in these five to six main areas: 1) The Idea Of A Non-proven One All Omnipotent God/Religions; 2) Not Having Overall Desire Or Values Toward True Ancient, Historical Knowledge & Science; 3) Negative Female Rulership By Non-Postnatal Trained ('Crooked Natured') Women; 4) Limited, Average Life Span; 5) Not Having Economic Productive Type Values (Needing Someone Else To Do What You Yourself Can Do While Also Not Maximizing On The Full Utilization Of Your Community's Or Continent's Natural Resources) & Finally, 6) The Allowed Destruction Of Family; all of this done within our limited average 80-years lifespan
Wow Dr.Umar is on point and I completely agree we as Black Men must take back our communities, and build our independent party to be strong Nationally! God Bless Dr.Umar and these Young Men that have now been exposed to a broader perspective!
They keep coming back to the woman the gets pregnant nurtures the baby in her belly gives birth to the baby in pain then she has to raise the baby because the man thinks that's the woman's job even though she has a little boy first time around. When is it a man going to take accountability and when he can't handle the bills guess what that woman will go out and work and have a family member watch her kids or put the kid in daycare when they're old enough and still come home and cook. So how is a woman supposed to rest in her femininity. White women have been resting in their femininity and their masculinity and still keeping her husband are you kidding me white men ain't dumb because they know they ain't s*** without their woman.
Dr. Umar is the most intelligent person in this room. It must be exhausting trying to explain to these grown ass men how to be accountable and responsible.
@@belindabelinda7463 you can't expect to have communities, if you don't have families. If marriage is dead like you said, then there is no hope for communities.
@@idontplaygames3k296 I am not parroting Umar. I have been criticizing Umar. What are you talking about? I am saying Dr Umar should not be talking about community if he can't even get his own houses in order first.
Can't talk about communities without talking about individualism. Communities are made up of strong families not weak, broken families. Communities need to follow rules and guidelines like other cultures. Black Communities don't follow the same rules as other cultures. Deadbeat dads and promiscuous and unruly single mothers would be ostracized from Communities.
Because at the root of the community are individuals. You cant have a community of morally righteous people with that moral righteousness being ingrained at an individual level. And thats what they were tryna explain to umar. If you cant convince the individual, you definitely aint gonna convince the community. If you can convince the individual to take a stake in the community’s failure outside of himself, then you can spread that to the masses. Effectively they tried to make umar convince them why they should take accountability for the communitys failures that they played no part in at an individual level and umar failed miserably and just kept saying “do it for the community” That doesnt work
I haven't seen anyone so passionate about the black race in the entire world,and I am saying this as an African like Dr. Umar. He will live to see the fruits of his hard work.
He's a race Hustler with great vocabulary. He didn't realize GOD placed that White Guy who helped him during the construction phase where as the Blacks didn't come through. Dr.Umar missed the message of unity.
@@northridgemall4625There is no unity in psychological and spiritual disunity you fool. That’s his whole point; re-education precedes revolution, otherwise NOTHING will change
This guy is too deep in his emotions to understand what Dr. Umar is trying to say to him. He is all about he, himself and I. Keep working on them Doc, keeping working on them.
Yes the topic of blaming men for women emotionally based decisions. Yall choose who you fuck and get pregnant by via superficial sentiments like he is 6ft and taller, or he has tattoos, or he has swag and other crap and yall reject somemen cuz he aint tall or he is skinny or he dont sound hood or some dumb shit.
Yes I think you can look at it both ways.. On one hand he's constantly bringing up white supremacy in the issues... But on the other hand they're on the basis of our problems when it comes to us as a family I know a lot of people don't like him, but the one thing they can't deny is that he has been consistent with his message from the very beginning In Black unity is something I fully support 🙏🏾😌✨
@@drelocs2878e thinks it ain't wise for us to date outside our race. I don't follow this idiot, I follow my own history. he doesn't speak for me. he's saying shit that I've already known & read. it's just how take him seriously or not. I'm also confused to understand on what TF he's talking about he's talking in circles if you ask me.🤷🏾♂️
He expects black men to hold themselves accountable for what black women choose, that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life. Y’all like him because he panders to you… he’s getting them donations from black women
When black people marched ,their were no Chinese marching with us / But when Chinese people marched there black people were marching with them. BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO GULLIBLE , DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND WE WILL WE LEARN TO STOP DEPENDING ON THE WHITE MAN + ALL THE REPARATION IS NEVER GOIN TO HAPPEN, LOOK AT ALL THIS CENTURIES , FORGET ANUOT THAT AND LES DO OUR THINNH AND STOP BEGGING THE WHITE MAN FOR ANYTHING
My brothers struggled with that individuality concept, that’s a hurdle that we as a whole have to overcome. It’s one helluva mountain to climb. God Bless! 🙏🏿
We HAVE TO stop whining and move on in order to move forward; our past will always be our past, but this doesn't mean that we need to have it be a Millstone around our necks.
@@robertdore9592but I don’t think y’all understood those 3 . They have moved past. If anything Umar is stuck in the past. Eli and Ju spoke on it correctly. We shouldn’t have to deal with consequences while also tryna fix hurt from the 80’ & 90’s let’s be real most the time these women are under 30 years old and have not raised a child on there own. That was more around 30-40 years ago when a women was doing everything and anything for children but that is not the same right now.
You missing the point because if we’re looking at the group as a whole more times than not the 30 year old sister your talking about was raised by a single mother and her whole idea of life came from the system we need to fix
People should just stop trying to be looked at as leaders. What a buzz word. Help people you can, we don't have to look up to you. It's not about your ego
This conversation was wild 😂 I think this is what happens when you have an intellectual speaking to Podcasters who lack knowledge and speak solely based on emotion. What Umar was trying to tell that one guy was going straight over his head he's definitely for self for sure being community minded was dumbfounded to him he didn't get it
Exactly!!! Like, sir, we heard you, you don't like that she's been with pookie and rayray but what have you done for the community to prevent this from happening. what's being done to prevent your daughters, sisters, nieces, etc from even having a pookie as a character candidate. It's one thing to be a great dad but are you taking time to go show rayray down the street how to be a man so we can stop this cycle from happening in our community.
@@rachealmiller6757 So I think the podcaster understood that his confusion came from not knowing how it was his or our responsibility to make sure that there are no pookies and Rayrays. Simply being present in the community doesn't always equate to having the impact on someone's life to be a better man. I think the presence of a good male role model definitely helps. That's like saying that white men being present in their communities can stop all the rapes, thefts, burglaries etc... that's a disingenuous argument that once again places unrealistic standards on the black man that no other men have. Have Japanese men been able to stop boys from growing up and being in the Triads gang? No. So yes for most men the best we can do is be present in our homes and hope the men and women that come from that home are good to great members of a larger society. Like he said not everyone is called to do that work.
Dr Umar has two children out of wedlock by two different women. He wants resources from other men to take care of his children because his donations for his scam school is running out.
to the black women out there, I apologize to you for my previous bad behavior and I apologize to the present behavior you guys are enduring from black men
Blah blah blah. Black men suck!! Biggest waste of space. They do nothing positive for community. Wanna sit around and blame black women for their issues. I have zero respect!!!
Did you see them all looking to each other for support 😂 None of them likely had a father and that’s why they can’t understand what Umar is saying. Bc they made it and no one helped them. That’s a bad point of view.
First of all I love this interview. The amount of views that it has received in comparison to the views on your content about men versus women has proved that people are ready for solutions. It's time to continue to have the conversations about how we come together and fix the problems instead of the blame game.
A needed conversation. This is where the foundation is built through deconstructing of the current state we as black men are in. We can’t rebuild or repair ourselves without these conversations. This is a charge/challenge to all men.
Dr Umar is on fire. That man can preach the truth about our culture as black ppl. As a man I can recognize that the black woman has held down the fort way too long by themselves. Us black men do need to do better and support the black women and raise our boys and not leave them by the wayside. Dr Umar I clap my hands to you for your honesty, integrity, and for the love you have to empower our ppl!
For everything good and meaningful thing Umar says he equals it with stupid far fetched BS excuses and lack of accountability for Black Women. In the end Umar will have helped accomplish NOTHING.
You are a true alpha male because you can give another alpha male his props when it’s due…. When you hear truth , you accept it , you don’t come up with excuses to hate him as a man ignoring his message. Thank you 🙏🏾
@dumkaisachakal6341 I find the feminine/masculine convo silly because balanced humans encompass both, but black men love to yap about it. Black men have been in the feminine position for decades, only makes sense for bw to step into the masculine.
@@omegaduck2955 right they went in circles for about 10 minutes in the interview because the one host refused to accept the need for male collective responsibility. It's like he wanted Dr. Umar to lay into women's issues and crucify their poor choices which Dr. Umar never dismissed. That young man's energy was way off and I'm happy Dr. Umar didn't fall into the "what about" trap and focused on what men haven't done and can do for the benefit for all
Umar is right we all have failed as a community but bruh kept making it about him. The problem with the gender wars is both sides lack empathy and would rather blame each other then find a solution. Both sides have faults but neither address them.
@@Achilles645 we’re meant to lead he’s saying leaders don’t sit and cry about stuff they look for and implement stuff instead of looking to absolve themes from blame
Men are not responsible for mentoring children that are not their own. That's the job of the biological father. Can't talk about community without talking about family
@@CNM2326 exactly. Those biological fathers need to step up and do their jobs. Dr Umar should not be telling men who are not biologically related to fatherless children to step up. That's the job of the biological fathers.
My 26 year old cousin is a great man. Has five kids with the same woman and it’s still in the household taking care of the household as a black man in America definitely not a Pookie can’t blame the system if you don’t allow the system to enter so proud of you, great black man❤
I felt this with my whole heart. My Sun’s father passed away when he was 3 but u can even comprehend home many boys I had to raise that were not mine. I had to do boy stuff with boys and I’m a woman. My Sun loved to invite all his friends to my little apartment on my little salary but God helped me through it and I’m called mom by many✊🏾🖤
@@HiddenBlackHistory213 Omggg no one is always going after child support please kill that narrative 😂🤣 y’all just don’t want to be responsible period but when you’re forced to be financially responsible it’s a problem. Stop having raw sex with women knowing the possibility of bringing children into this world
That’s not true at all. Men pay criminal penalties for not paying child support. They go to prison. There are men and women to blame for the state of the black family. Behavior needs to be corrected on both sides.
It’s quite interesting that these men had an excuse for every mode of responsibility Umar put in their path. That highlights the core of the issue. If you can always point to someone or something else, collective responsibility and agency is eliminated and they can’t be held to task for anything. The addiction to being victims and helpless should be embarrassing to these men and those like them.
I agree with you, but to a degree. We shouldn’t be looking to make excuses, pointing fingers at others and playing the victim. That’s facts. However, you know how many of our people don’t know that many of the things we go through today are due to subtle psychological warfare, waged on our people many years ago? It’s indeed important to know these things in order to get to the root of the issues. Yet at the same time, I do agree that focusing on excuses vs analyzing solutions is the wrong approach.
No he's not he's for bm doing what bw say and providing by the woman's rules because they donate ... his fix is for good bm to eat shit not and not lead and let bw treat them any kind of way and still serve which is dead and part of the reason why the gender war exists because bw don't even want to have to respect bm and put bm under the all of the bums and thugs they choose to have kids by..you can't expect to get help and disrespect at the same time doesn't work and bm are financially doing better than bw .. try to disrespect an African or anyone overseas and see how that goes
@@DonnyHilt it’s a delicate balance. But there has to be a point where you decide and act on “against all odds”. Imagine if we all just took things laying down and not fighting for justice or the betterment of our loved ones? If Black women did that, the community wouldn’t exist, IMO. BW and BM were in slavery, her one is still relying on the trauma as an excuse while demanding leadership and submission. You don’t get that when you’re not exercising personal agency.
This interview was both empowering and frustrating all at the same time. REALLY?! I can't believe there was even a argument back and forth regarding the statements Dr Umar made...respectfully this is exactly the type of mindset that gave birth to this podcast generation of constant divide between the black female and males...one which will forever hold back and divide the black community. Come on brothers...it was so hard watching this! I really hope you came away with a light bulb moment because I'm half way through and actually in shock. On a good note, I'm glad this was interview was made known, so that damaging narratives (which you guys kept arguing) can be challenged and we can become more self-aware. Individualism is the greatest risk to our community!
Foolish woman, do you believe youll teach a mass of savages to be orderly? You wont. Youll teach them individually and then theyll form a community of like minded people who respect order. Its the same with our community. Being family oriented starts with the individuals. Then the individuals form groups, then those groups form communities and those communities for a nation. Its weird how people still fall for umars rhetoric and dont ever ask “if his logic (which isnt new by the way) is so good, why hasnt it worked? Because you aint finna change the masses without changing the individuals first
@@Spectonimous no but i dnt have to be accountable for other ppl actions. If u had a kid out of wedlock thats between the ppl involved how bout the actual ppl who made bad decison be acouuntable and stop blaming the person making the right decision so yes he was pandering. How about he marry the woman he got a kid with better yet give back all the money he stole frm the imaginary school. Now thats being accountable. But since u so big about hold innocent ppl accountable how about pay off other ppl credit card bills who made bad financial decisions oh but u wont do that
@@Spectonimous ppl like u who blame others for their individual choices is why the "community" is the way it is. I am not accountabke for a woman who chose to lay with the wrong man b4 marriage. I am not responsible foe their kids. I am not responsible for their health and i am not putting someone elses kids and problem on my family so miss me with that "victim its ur fault im n the situation im in" bs that yall like to promote
Responsibility comes with authority. If your soldiers dont respect authority eventually you stop taking responsibility for them. Theyll get you and them killed. Thats the issue here. You cant lead a bull to water that doesnt want to drink
Sad that Dr Umar can’t read statistics apparently… black men are 4th behind Hispanics and Asian women in dating interracially. 🤡 behavior to berate black men INCORRECTLY. That shit pisses me off so much especially when niggas really ride behind what they saying like it’s correct yelling it and shit and be deadass wrong
Yes, it's admirable. However, they need to also be fully open minded and ready to fully listen to what he is saying. It's perfectly fine to disagree, in the end, but how can you disagree on a point that he isn't making? I don't know these young men names, but I just watched one of them in particular consistently disagree with what he said but he misunderstood that Dr. Umar was speaking about collective action. The young man was simply defensive.
Yes, I'm feeling that to . Dr, Umar, are waking up alot of these black kings .We can't keep playing stupid games " getting stupid prizes!" . Wake up - FBA ?
Never heard or seen these young men before this interview. Their responses to Umar’s correction and constructive criticism were low vibrational. Attitudes/mentalities like theirs is part of the reason why we’re in this position. Individualism will not work to fix the black community. Maybe Umar helped them to see the error of thier ways, but I highly doubt it.
They need to be educated & I am sure they aren't instilling much needed into their child/children minds. Hopefully they don't die while their children are minors or the mother for them to understand the other side of the fence.
Umar told them straight this is a MAN'S conversation. But they continued to keep trying to drag women into it wtf. That was so sad and disappointing they couldn't dispute what he was saying so they tried to highlight womens issues, just pitiful. If this was a conversation between supposed leaders then Houston we have a problem.
@@aaronrooks2703right he missed the most basic point eli was making: “how is it my duty to fix a community i didnt break” and umars answer was effectively “because you allowed it to break” smh
He lied about why blk women are the way they are today, it was lie. He just knows how to out talk some, uea I agree the other men were out their league. But be clear, he was wrong about blk men allowing blk women to be what they are. He never wanted Kevin Samuels tho
Close male relative who is a black man has the same mentality as these black men he was schooling mixed with the mentality of the kneegrow and a 🦝 and i sent this video to him and told him to watch it. And he tried to criticize it without even watching it first claiming Dr.Umar preaches bs rhetoric. I told him to watch the video first before making judgements. Because how would he know what is going to be said if he hasn’t even watched the video first. Some of these blk men are so deep in the colonizing mentality that they refuse to let other blk people pull them out of that cave.
@@louisj4645So blk men leaving black women to be single black mothers to hold down everything is a lie? Tell that to all the blk kids who grew up without a father in sight and was raised by a single black mother.
What Dr. Umar did for the black community is heroic. The importance of creating a school without funding from the government is you can teach the curriculum you want. This is what we need.
What did he do?! WTF did he do besides collecting money for ages and never really building just one school........... We don't need him anymore. Enough con artists around.....
So did anyone recognize how towards the end of the podcast, what appears to be the owner or main speaker of the show almost completely refused to even ACKNOWLEDGE any accountability regarding the black man flaws and how it played into systemic racism. He persisted on holding BLACK women accountable on our “poor decisions” in dating men.. when majority of the men in our community are what he describe as “pookie and ray ray” (and we know what type of men he was trying to get at here). Regardless, despite Dr. Umar trying to get him to look at the overall picture, he was set on “revealing” this negative portrayal of black women, to which he described “is masculine with multiple kids”.. so all black women are masculine with multiple children?? Why would you even portray us in that way, but when someone say something regarding the negative characteristics of black men.. they quick to say “NOT ALL MEN” or “NOT ME, I worked hard to get where I’m at.” So… you think most BW do not work hard to become something and beat stereotypes.. while .. you know.. on top of balancing being the MAN AND WOMEN in a fatherless household? & Black men wonder why so many of our women embody the masculine role.. like do you even recognize how your own actions contribute to why some of our mothers and grandmothers had to be the men in our life as well? Judging a women for having multiple children, yet not criticizing the men who are impregnating her .. the ones who are not supporting her.. the ones who rather be in the street.. rather than building their community. I’m glad Dr. Umar put y’all in check. Why are you concerned about black women taking accountability, when the conversation is more so centered on how black men can collectively began on recognizing and acknowledging their role in the prevalent disruption of the black family institution.
There’s something with him- maybe his mother chose bad or a girl he liked choose a bad guy. But he lacks self awareness and can’t step outside himself to think about the bigger picture. I hope one day he can.
BW aren't thinking anything of the community when you're reproducing more Pookies to run amuck. Don't expect decent BM to protect you from your own mistakes.
This is the kind of talk we need in private in real life. Before too long we have broadcast what we are going to do. And the weakness within that is the same as telling your enemy exactly where you come fail. You need to learn to move in silence and secrecy in order elevate from the sorrow pitiful sad state and position that our people are in.
@@belleame4671We can speak about whatever we want. You just don’t like black podcasters because they’re so influential that they can’t be cancelled by butthurt black women. I’m not gonna make excuses for black male criminals because I hate the them too, but you’re nuts if you think bw have done anything to deserve the respect of bm. I don’t deal with the black community on any level and I’ve never been happier
This individualistic mindset is something that plagues us and something we struggle with. Our mentality is under such hypnotic suggestion, that we cannot see the truth of our plight. This was a very edifying debate/conversation. More action needs to be taken rather than so much talking. Blessings 🙌🏽
The mindset and education between Dr Umar and these interviewers is immense. They have victim mindset. They need to educate themselves about responsibility to understand the scope of problem at discussion. The lack of self awareness is huge. Educate yourselves black men to solve your community problems. Keep the excellent work Dr. Umar.
Wait, what? UMAR had the victim mindset!!! Black men TODAY, are NOT responsible for the actions of what black men before us did! That's the problem! It's not different than asking whites today to atone for what their racist forefathers did! Women can't bash us, then say we "don't protect them." Behaving masculine is a CHOICE!
I come from a massive family filled w men Being a man is taught Anyone in my family not being a man would be clowned and shamed All actively in their children’s lives All successful All stand for something The way to fix the issues in our community …is by not tolerating it My family move as a unit I pray that my people realize that We are stronger and more powerful together than apart ✊🏾✨💕
lol cuz she gets rights in 2024. lolololl women have become melennials by default cuz the system allows thhe removal of not only the father of the child but the husband of the wife. Bet u cant say what ya want or do what ya wan with your kids if they hit that system on you and they can easily. The way you said that, kids will be saying something in a similar fashion once both parents are removed and thhey are born into being controlled. They'll love it too. I say this especially cuz there no men going "Why is feminine" teach em dr. Umar. its not a flex to be a victim of the system to toss in someones face lolololol also men always wanna be tough and the bihh ninjas know who they are.... but most women left alone thing they tough and strong/manly... I dont see men becoming women as a systematic solution. we get angry when see a bih ninja but women get happy when they get out of their nature ...and if they can copy bih boy they loooooove it. then women praise themselves for contributing to that systematic decline. we got bihh boys and now we make it cool to be a undesirable whore (cuz u not gettin man points for being single and smashing constantly cuz if bih boy hits it we dont even want it)
Too many men are angry at some women for choosing Pookie and Ray. But not all women choose Pookie and Ray. Some of us choose cooperate men, CEOs, Pastors, Deacons, blue collar, white collar and ect....and they were still played by men. Bad men come in all different walks of life.
Preach!!! This is what they’re in denial of. They oversimplify what it takes to vet men. Men can pretend to be one thing until a baby is involved and do a complete a 180 once responsibility and accountability are in the picture.
Initially coming with 'Some' - 'Some Historical Facts'; yet, in the end, have nothing substantial to validate or make real their/your points of views. Applying to: Allah, Buddha, Jah, Jesus, Krishna, Yahweh And All The Rest (Umar Johnson...etc..): Even as an updated point of view: my take on it is that Blacks as a whole (especially as applying to both African and American Blacks [maybe one more so than the other and vice versa]) we fail in these five to six main areas: 1) The Idea Of A Non-proven One All Omnipotent God/Religions; 2) Not Having Overall Desire Or Values Toward True Ancient, Historical Knowledge & Science; 3) Negative Female Rulership By Non-Postnatal Trained ('Crooked Natured') Women; 4) Limited, Average Life Span; 5) Not Having Economic Productive Type Values (Needing Someone Else To Do What You Yourself Can Do While Also Not Maximizing On The Full Utilization Of Your Community's Or Continent's Natural Resources) & Finally, 6) The Allowed Destruction Of Family; all of this done within our limited average 80-years lifespan
@@rochelletaylor4558 As a response to your comment; thus, no I didn't intend - I had no intentions of ever saying anything about males also generally - naturally prone towards distorted or 'out of line' type behavior; what I meant was that female side (being that we are now considered a separate gender type species as opposed to having a one, unisexual gender) is more prone to having distorted or 'out of line' type behavior (especially as it applies to positively maintaining the overall family structure). As with us males, based on historical records and simply close observation, we males in general are prone to being overly arrogant and egotistical; inclusively, we males can be extremely arrogant and egotistical even when we (as my mother would put it) 'don't have a pot to pi** in'.
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This was powerful guys!!! Great work getting umar.
Add dr umars links in the description
So there are truths on both sides. So I think something to be considered is to look for a healed, respectful, and considerate spouse. Then, each gender needs to focus on turning around their base and youth for the better, thus producing better outcomes. Also, it was stated to create more economic bridges amongst ourselves and the diaspora. If we can create jobs, we won't have to be forced to work where we don't enjoy. We just need to work on the respect portion. Where there are opportunities or ideas, there is revenue. Lastly, we can like nice things, but we give stacks away for vague status symbols that don't age well as assets, i.e., chains, shoes, and name brand clothing. We should be trying to produce our own. This dialog was dope none the less.
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Dr. Umar is talking in circles. He keeps speaking on systemic and discrediting the individualism. But it starts with the individual. If each individual takes responsibility, won't it carry over to systemic changes?
Did the brother actually ask "are we racist for dating within our own race?" This goes to show that many people doesn't know what racism actually means
That's right. Stay with your OWN KIND
Them men not us they not FBA
@@davidhouse6938 move along incel..
King here is what he meant, but he worded the question wrong. Some/most people have asked "Am I a racist if I prefer or choose to date within my race, but not outside my race"? Some people will say that it is racist and some people will say that it is not racist.
@@Camille-mv3mr it's a stupid question and goes to prove we're doomed. You can't build with stupid people. These men are stupid.
When a man can stand up and speak up for the Black Woman it is absolutely Beautiful!
Wish the black woman can do the same for a black man
Right bc you don’t see it often
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@@heyyashleyyy2669😒…tf you mean? It’s HELLA men that speak up for women. Hell it’s a BUNCH of men in jail RIGHT NOW over defending a woman. Black men‼️over a Black Woman‼️ so stop your bullshit right now 😒🤦🏾♂️
Absolutely!! And the way he broke it down was precisely correct🙏🏾
Why is it so hard for Black people to see the damage that has been done? These young men fought him tooth and nail about things that are so obvious.🤦🏽♀️
Unbelievable!
brainwashing
Because Dr umar is a fraud. He promotes not dating out but he likes white women too. He's been collecting funding for a school he's never gonna build. He's a capper.
He blames black men for the problems black women and Feminism created
Don't want to see.
Sorry...he told the truth
They are not listening to understand. They are listening to respond. And that’s why things will never get better and change.
I agree 👍🏿
Exactly 😢it’s sad
Very True!!!!
Steven Covey said that
What happens when a smart man is speaking. The average minded man will start doing exactly what they accuse women of doing, listening to respond and responding emotionally.
Individualism has plagued the black community so much that these men could even stop themselves from spewing out individualistic ideologies and I’m so glad dr umar called it out every single time they did it
Completely agree with this. It was as if it kept going over their heads. Think bigger, and dream bigger! Gender wars gets us no where, and fast. As long as we stay divided there is unlikely to be any progress for the black race, globally.
Individualism has grasped the whole planet. It's a modern day curse
Glad you caught that too. Dr Umar is quick witted and able to pick up on that. Plus his message about community is actually better for traditional values than what the hosts talk about which is "me, myself and I."
Exactly. They have disassociated themselves from the community and everyone wants to be individualized
Tell me about it. It was like they were listening
As Black Men we must do better! Mad love and Respect to Dr. Umar.
Blk People need to do better as a whole.
@taylormade 💯
Umar Johnson is an idiot and so are you
Umar Johnson is a fraud. Black men have been doing better
I’m not dating no single mother my nigga. I rock wit Dr. Umar on a lot of things but THIS RIGHT HERE????….No…I 100% refuse. Basically this nigga want us to sacrifice ourselves to be a father to bunch of kids we ain’t even help make…all for the “black community” that don’t even give a f*ck about them own gahdam selves 🤦🏾♂️😒
Man, it's crazy that Dr. Umar spent over an half an hour trying to drill in individualism vs. community, and they still couldn't get it. They just kept going back to themselves. How conceited can you be?
As a man who may not check up all boxes of what he deeds being for our community, I totally agree with him. Black men need to stop worrying about what blame black women has and focus on what we can improve upon ourselves starting with our young men.
💯!!!! Dr.Umar was adamant about “Us, and we” as a collective to solve our problems. Buddy still wanted to talk about his own dating problems smh.
I understand the notion of community. But if everyone did their own individual part, then the community would fall in line. Our problem is that we focus too much on the community and not individual achievement.
@@ericwatkins4581 That's not true. Look at all the successful people that we know about that does right by them and their family but sell the rest of the community out.
We have tons of black successful Republicans (not conversative leaning so we don't confuse the two) who work to sell lies about how American treats black systematically. We have black successful democrats who suckers us into fighting for everyone but ourselves.
Look at Jay Z who lead us to vote for people like Hillary Clinton or got us to fall back against the NFL. And this is all while being paid by these groups.
And this happens to us on all levels and on all sides. Black people scattered all over the place over what they "believe" which is why we have no political power. This is what happens when you focus on too much as an individual and none as an community.
As a community, less people gets left behind and ends up being a pookie and rayray to be a poison to the community. As an individualism, you care less about them and leave them to be a detriment to our kids and grandkid's future which is part of the american system.
@ericwatkins4581 and what if people never do their part? Do you just wash your hands of the bc and walk away? He's saying people are just sitting around talking about this person and that person- that won't change ANYTHING. We need the leaders in the community to stand up and take action. When bw standup and and try to lead you say we are masculine. We need the rightful leaders to take their place at the forefront of the community.
@@ericwatkins4581 its s hustle. There is no we. The individual makes up the group. The group don't make the individual.
Thank you Umar!!! For validating my feelings as a black woman
If you need someone to validate your feelings, they are probably weak to begin with
@@TheDr.NEBO96 wow Doctor Nebo!!! So bitter
@@TheDr.NEBO96 y’all are so vindictive of anyone who defends women even in the slightest way
@@TheDr.NEBO96 you are nothing but sick
@@akosuamvotyo1655no bittnerness here. Just a fact. If you need other people to validate your feelings about something then that thing you feel is not strong at all. Using data to validate your feelings is different than using the words of a race hustler like Dr. Umar. This man raised $5 million in donations to re-open a school in Virginia and then conveniently never opened it. He stole $5 million from his own people that donated. He is using the black community to further his pocket just like 99% of black activists. So to use his rhetoric to "justify your feelings" means that your feelings are weak and would crumble on their own. Just the truth.
More men need to sit around and have a conversation like this with one another.
Hot air sessions.
That's a CURSE on our people
Sit around
I agree but most will not see why and will continue to blame the black woman.
Totally agree.
I’m in tears!!! Dr Umar understands black people and culture!!
Disgusting! If whites would sit in a circle and talk like this you would call it a rascist KKK meeting. Stop blaming others for your failure take your head out your ass and change your life and stop crying
Exactly!
That's his calling...the emancipation of the black person from mental slavery. Much respect to him
@@tj5429 he produces exactly the oppossite, its reducing yourself to being black and then tells you you are being oppressed and being sabotaged, like your not going to the same schools like everybody else , have to work hard to make something out of you like everybody else, the only thing you are opressed by is by the people telling you youll never make it and that no matter what youll do it will all be useless, THATS oppressing and mr. Umar seems to have a black belt in it.
This is why individualism is so dangerous for our community! These young men just weren’t getting it
At all.
THE INDIVIDUAL MENTALITY OF BLACK AMERICANS IS LITERALLY KILLING US
They got it but it didn’t make much sense towards humans you can’t control humans ,you have a good guy available but you still chose the pookie what sense that makes which go back to accountability have to fix your home before you fix a community
The only thing that truly unites people are their morals and values. Skin color doesn’t make a difference.
@@shani5345 tell that to public & private schools
This interview made me cry as a Caribbean Black woman with african slavery in her DNA....as a woman who had no Dad around or male figure to speak these truths....😢😢😢😢......may this kind of conversation grow into a movement
As a half black carribean and half black american woman I agree with everything dr Umar said I ve seen it on both sides and he told NO lies
I agree with your statement 💯% FACTS plus tax 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Hi lovelymiss, Caribbean woman here too. It was so sad hearing This Alpha trying to make these young pup understand. They were given an opportunity to address and join forces with his mission to build. They might have been raised by single mothers and if that’s the case they should have been able to identify and comprehend what it is he is trying to say and do. It’s all demonic and diabolical the attack on the women initially black women but now even women of all races.
As a South African black Zulu men, this touched me. We need to do better as men. This war between black men and women is unnecessary. At the end of the day, we both at the bottom of the food chain. From now on, I'm done blaming black women for our societal problems and taking responsibility. Amandla ✊🇿🇦 Shaka Zulu: iLembe
Amandla✊️
Hey, that's great what you said please follow thru!!!
I concur that the war between Black men and women is redundant. You’re also right that at the beginning, middle, and end of the day we are still at the bottom.
Wait? You were blaming black women for the societal problems in your community? That seems lame AF.
Thank you! The manosphere section promotes this division between men and women, and it is destructive.
It’s so crazy , you agree with everything but when it comes to accountability all of a sudden they have a problem.
Accountability is #1 for us
This proves its human nature not wanting to take accountability not just women. 🤷♂
Because we aren't accountable for sexually irresponsible women who share men.
@@postalcode63you are because most women are sexually irresponsible because black men have r-ped us and harmed us starting as children. 80% of black girls are sexually harmed by black peers by the time they are 13.
@@postalcode63and we aren't accountable for sexually irresponsible men who share men and women.
That brother could NOT stop thinking about my household , my wife , my child. This is where the separation starts. Who will be a part of the revolution and who wants to ignore it.
Agreed I’m a man and I was getting frustrated they think to individualistically when he saying the community. It was frustrating. 🤦🏾🤯
We need I AM'S law.
You can socially punish people for something they didn’t do the way yall come down on black men especially ones who ain’t do nothing to nobody no wonder they don’t listen to yall
Thank you Dr. Uma for giving knowledge to those who lack it.
I love this man!!! I’m in tears because I’ve NEVER had a man to this caliber in my personal space. He spoke everything in my mind and heart about us!!!
Stay away from Keisha culture then 🤷🏾 plenty of us speak this way
@@heat5701 hm that way
visit @iuicintheclassroom to hear same men of the same caliber
Speaking and actions are two different things!!!
@@jannejames7224 🤔ok Keisha
“Your analysis is feeding the gender war..it’s not solving it”.
-The quote of the year👏🏾
People say that every time something is said that can't be disputed.
@@RickyGuttasouffCollinsumar handedly disputed, refuted, solved the the issue brought up.
@@patrickmiller1674No he did nothing but add to the gender war. Do you see anything getting solved after this video but more bickering??? 😂
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@@kingstrong5351you are a troll.
Systemic issues have caused MAJOR trauma in the black community and we wanna scapegoat each other and not look at what caused the problem. Agreed 💯
Bull shit. Racism is not the reason why the black community is at the bottom. Black women are the reason
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NMAC27, well said. Thank you.
It wasn't a problem in the 40s you blacks led the way in morality and righteousness in your marriages, neighborhoods, and your privately owned businesses that you traded for black leaders, projects and welfare
Trauma happened to all races all in the world. White people were slaves too. All races have started at the bottom and still managed to succeed. It’s about personal choices nothing systemic is holding anyone back
Love this conversation. Black Men, Let's Build! We got work to do!
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You can be a stepdad if you want 😂
No we don’t. Ain’t no one building up the community. We are weak and useless when it comes to that. We been free we been knew this info. We live the life we want.
These men aren't ready to have this conversation. Too many excuses
they are all children umar repeats his statements they keep dodging
@@23allroundUmar is a child himself cause all he did was make excuses for black women and contradict himself
@@aaronrooks2703 obviously you did not pay attention.
@@MrMorristhecatp I watched the entire interview. Obviously you didn’t see it
Umar is a genius because he is a psychologist. He knows that 10 people can do the same thing, and if you asked them why, you would get ten different reasons. That's just for simple tasks. Choosing who you love is the most complicated thing you can do as a human being. He's gaslighting black America for fame. If he could predict why people behave the way they do simply based on observation, He would be a billionaire with a noble peace prize. Love who you want. Life is short. Don't miss out on true love over race. Or do that's on you. Ignorance is bliss. 😢
“This is a man issue. Leave the woman out of it. It we go out as black men to raise these black boys-women will respect it”…. Period! This warmed my heart. Thank you Dr. Umar
Why are people still pushing that narrative that black men aren’t raising their children though? The CDC has reported that black men are the most active fathers in their children’s lives of all demographics whether they are married to the mothers or not.
Well these women need to stop laying down with the wrong men.
Right! They love to say BW are not feminine, but these dudes out here whining like females and complaining. It's a turn off! Real men know how to handle women and put us in our place🤷🏾♀️.
@@Lele-bk3qm And then send us to jail for doing so. I should not have to "handle" you.
@@davidtyler6708 Not in the way you are thinking 🤦🏾♀️...Lord! Nevermind...
Blk men do need to focus on raising blk boys to be strong blk men!💯💯🎯🎯🔥🔥
They can't. They won't.
They love caucazoid females too much .
A white woman CAN'T raise a Black child. Black males won't let them or the illusion of them go.
Which "type" of black man?
They don’t want to raise another man’s children though. Especially if they aren’t dating their mother’s.
BLACK AMERICAN MEN ARE SOOOOOOOOOOO F-UP AND TOO FAR GONE TO BE HELPED.
Re-define 'strong black men'. Because maybe their understanding of that is toughness.
This convo is so needed!! We need more Dr. UMARS!!
One thing that hits home and I believe in a 100 percent . We BLACK MEN MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ACTIONS. Some of the conditions we see in our young male youth today probably wouldn't be to the extent that it is today if we took responsibility. So I totally agree with the discussion fully on that point.
Shout out to you for saying that. We as black men must take responsibility. This individualistic mindset has to stop. Remember, there’s a reason God made man the head of the house. It is our responsibility to lead and that comes with the good and bad. I learned that from my Dad. Shout out to you Pops…
💪🏿... I clearly heard Dr.Umar said that the CIA lady to in to infiltrate the black family with feminism (and it worked), then welfare, abortion, child support, liberation & independence etc.etc
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Those were "choices" that were made by "women", which the young man was attempting to relay his point, but was over talked.
Men and Women need to apologize to each other. PERIOD.❤️
@@troydilworth8789 Beloved, it's crucial to understand the welfare system and child support within the larger context of the system that has been created. These systems you mentioned trace back to slavery, Jim Crow laws, and mass incarceration, all aimed at dismantling the power of black families and communities. To suggest that this is solely about individual choice overlooks the institutionalized nature of this system and how it has been ingrained in our Americanized culture.
I understand where you're coming from, and I respect your perspective that individual choice does play a part. That being said, it's worth noting the contradiction in the arguments made by the person in question. They mention "pookie and ray ray" but lack the consciousness of attracting "BoQuisha and sha sha." It's important for both men and women to reflect on their own reasons for choosing these mates and address any underlying biases or beliefs that may be influencing their choices.
As Umar was saying, we need to zoom out and focus on the bigger picture - the system that forces both men and women into certain choices. It's like the Adam and Eve story, where they turned against each other instead of addressing the real issue. This sneaky snake of a system destroys our sense of self and blocks our ability to truly see and understand each other. And let's not forget, it strips us of our power. So, while individual choices do matter, we can't overlook the destructive force of this system that have forced us into choices out of survival and out of response to our emotional, historical, and collective trauma. We have to dismantle these Jim Crow laws that turn us against each other and come together!
@@karajames6216 ...
Right on. Both men and women must admit and confess to our faults. PERIOD.
Dr. Umar cannot campaign for MEN to be held accountable alone. Women will NEVER change if they are only waiting on. Men to fix this. They chose to be single parents, and if it's NOT a choice then they should choose to have a man.
Return to the Father and the Father will return to you.
He simped out with those young men. Promotion of simping will only justify females behavior.
Learn from this.
@@karajames6216Well said!👏🏽👏🏽
Let’s separate the boys from the men. Thank you Dr. Umar for setting the record straight!
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Dr. Umar missed the ball berating black men meanwhile Hispanics and asian women all date interracially more than we do as BM 🙄🤡 he just be talking sometimes
@@4rtivist nahh brother you just talkin
and when are we going to separate the girls from the women? or is it just a man's job to be the adult ?
@@dntn3026 look up the stats yourself, I got my own nonprofit too goof, it’s not hard to put in work I bet you lack resume at all. Yet TALKING, Asian women marry interracially the most 36% and Hispanics men and women both marry at higher rates than us. Umar was just talking
Ive never been so frustrated with an interviewer. Dr Umar broke it down several times and stated this is not about individualism but systematically.. and he continues to revert back to hisself and what he has experienced and doesnt want and yet again gaslighting black women. Never the bigger picture in what the Dr was trying to shove down his throat. Good job Dr Umar. We understood even if they didnt.
He eventually came around but that's how strong the programming is and that is just a glimpse of what we're up against. Which is why his school is so important -> Easier to build strong men than repair broken ones
Omg i was getting so annoyed...that level of not understanding contributes to the ongoing issue
I mostly look at dr. Umar Johnson as the Broken Clock. He's right about twice a day. There are plenty of things that I can say that I don't agree with but I definitely agree with him on the point that he was making about systemic issues that have destroyed black boys and black men are not taking accountability for them. On top of that, black men want to blame black women for ending up with black men who are not healed when black men have not taken an overall role in making sure that Pookie and Ray-Ray do not exist in the first place. I will not discount white supremacy because it played a huge role in the decimation of our communities, but I have a huge problem with any black man who wants to continually blame black women for the issues that we face as a community and they not take accountability. Like dr. Umar Johnson said, if two-thirds of women are raising children by themselves, how do you black man not see a larger problem? Why does it always have to end up with it's her choice? It's like if you sit down at a restaurant and they hand you a menu and the only thing they serve are hamburgers, the only thing you're going to eat is a hamburger. With that analogy, if the majority of black men that black women are presented with are not healed black men, how do you expect black women to be with a black man on a larger scale who is healed and whole and able to provide for family? I believe that black women need to do better but I damn sure will not allow white supremacist talking points from black men to continually black Gaslight black women in believing that every issue in her life is her fault. This is what the manosphere does all day long and it needs to stop.
He was annoying me too! That’s great for you one to be a good man etc, at about the masses and what are you doing to influence others?
What’s crazy is MOST Black interviewers do the same thing🤦🏽♂️It’s annoying AF and almost seems 🤔”Systematic” plus that’s that up north black dude mentality, it’s sickening
The whole energy shifted when accountability entered the chat
3 on 1. Dr. U held his position.
That guy went all around the world to blame women and the bottom line is he wants an excuse to date out his race.
Dr. Umar has me inspired to hold monthly family meetings and make sure I have intentional manhood talks with my family as well.
Fuk Umar, Marcus Garvey scamming ass and that century old unbuilt school.
Not in your life time. LMAO!
@@handsomeman-pm9vy?
@@user-ye4bu6xh4clol I’m saying
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These young men have no clue...Dr. Umar is so on point. They are literally blocking out where this man is coming from which is the problem now accountability
Umar Johnson is a virtue signaling hypocrite. He's got 2 kids with 2 baby mamas and doesn't even live by his own standards. Black men aren't the ones who broke up the households that was black women. Black women wanted to be like white women and show they didn't need and man and now fast forward 50 years later black women are blaming black men for their own idiotic decision. See what black women like to do is gaslight everybody into believing their victims even when they're the main facilitator of their own downfall.
I don’t agree with a lot that Dr umar says but I do agree with what he was saying about why women are that way they are. I don’t agree all is systemic though. Many black men left a poorer woman with his kids and went to another who was able to take care of him. He cares nothing about the kids or gave her money for nothing. She had to go welfare to get food.
The one guy with the braids hates black women. I do not see it in the cards that he will select one do we might as well give him his walking papers. He is trying to blame them for him not finding a “feminine” woman and we all out here killing ourselves to raise these hardheaded black boys alone. He is so self centered it is irritating. He is not even listening. Still saying the same ish!!
They weren’t even listening… just thinking about what to say next. Lord please keep my girls away from these pathetic boys
@@janicejennifer9861 There’s nothing to listen to you idiot
@@janicejennifer9861 Too bad your daughters have a pitiful example for a mother like you
I love this black man! He speaks knowledge.
A big part of Dr Umar’s solutions are service based. In order for people to take the actions he suggests, the willingness to serve and be apart of a community has to increase. Fire interview🔥
Sadness...is seeing how little Umar Johnson and his "crowd" actually understand.
Yes!!!!!! How can we rebuild the trust
What community is Umar part of? He doesn’t work with anybody. All he does is bloviate and pontificate.
Yessss, I use to yell this all the time. The focus should be on our children not how many children a single mother has. The children will soon be the leaders of the future!
Umar simped for women because his main audience is women. Women choose who gets to be a father. They decide the caliber of man they lie with..and raise. They are the first nurturers and teachers. If you choose..and raise a man of low caliber..those will be the choices they have when it comes to men, later.
I love how Dr. Umar allows no excuses. Take responsibility. Just because it’s not your FAULT does not mean it’s not your RESPONSIBILITY.
Black people always play the victim
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@BrownSpiderAdventures It is the BM's fault, though. BM sold their people into slavery and were so stupid that they got caught up in the same system. BM complain about the consequences of their failure but are too lazy and stupid to actually do anything about them. Nobody told BM they have to be failures. They have chosen to be in the position they are in -- even on their continent, where they make up the majority male group.
These are young men, that aren’t mature enough to handle what is being presented by Dr. Umar. I totally agree with your statement!!!
@@catherineprince5345 They aren't that young. They appear to be in their 30's. Their mentality is not an age thing. It's a conquered BM thing. Every other group of people -- including women (of all races) -- know what's up. Stop making excuses for the BM's stupidity.
These men definitely aren't ready to have that real convo with Dr. Umar.
Not today or ever
Yeah they do need us... Cause they sure don't want to take care of their sick and dying people..Who the heck take care of them..US
Correction, boys in men’s bodies!
Initially coming with 'Some' - 'Some Historical Facts'; yet, in the end, have nothing substantial to validate or make real their/your points of views. Applying to: Allah, Buddha, Jah, Jesus, Krishna, Yahweh And All The Rest (Umar Johnson...etc..): Even as an updated point of view: my take on it is that Blacks as a whole (especially as applying to both African and American Blacks [maybe one more so than the other and vice versa]) we fail in these five to six main areas: 1) The Idea Of A Non-proven One All Omnipotent God/Religions; 2) Not Having Overall Desire Or Values Toward True Ancient, Historical Knowledge & Science; 3) Negative Female Rulership By Non-Postnatal Trained ('Crooked Natured') Women; 4) Limited, Average Life Span; 5) Not Having Economic Productive Type Values (Needing Someone Else To Do What You Yourself Can Do While Also Not Maximizing On The Full Utilization Of Your Community's Or Continent's Natural Resources) & Finally, 6) The Allowed Destruction Of Family; all of this done within our limited average 80-years lifespan
At alllll.... and when he realized he couldn't win, he changed the subject
Wow Dr.Umar is on point and I completely agree we as Black Men must take back our communities, and build our independent party to be strong Nationally! God Bless Dr.Umar and these Young Men that have now been exposed to a broader perspective!
They all agreed with him until he Started to hold them accountable 😂
Is it wrong to not wanna be punished for something they didn’t do?
@@retrosaturn202They are doing it
@@retrosaturn202yet us black American women get punished by yall selection of other black/non-black American women.
They keep coming back to the woman the gets pregnant nurtures the baby in her belly gives birth to the baby in pain then she has to raise the baby because the man thinks that's the woman's job even though she has a little boy first time around. When is it a man going to take accountability and when he can't handle the bills guess what that woman will go out and work and have a family member watch her kids or put the kid in daycare when they're old enough and still come home and cook. So how is a woman supposed to rest in her femininity. White women have been resting in their femininity and their masculinity and still keeping her husband are you kidding me white men ain't dumb because they know they ain't s*** without their woman.
@@yallanderford6533 doing what?
Dr. Umar is the most intelligent person in this room. It must be exhausting trying to explain to these grown ass men how to be accountable and responsible.
Dr Umar has two children out of wedlock. Is he being responsible for his own children?
@@Vietmac1993 Yes, because he acknowledges his two children and helps raise them. Marriage is dead anyway.
@@belindabelinda7463 you can't expect to have communities, if you don't have families. If marriage is dead like you said, then there is no hope for communities.
@@Vietmac1993These women are literally contradicting themselves in these comments.😂 If marriage is dead, why are you parroting Umar then?
@@idontplaygames3k296 I am not parroting Umar. I have been criticizing Umar. What are you talking about? I am saying Dr Umar should not be talking about community if he can't even get his own houses in order first.
"deal with the boys and the men, leave her out of it and go straight to the boys and you'll get her respect back" 47:43 *mic drop*
And we know, they won't do it. It's easier to blame everyone and play victim
No thanks Jezebel.
And there’s nothing more attractive than seeing a black man pour into black boys.
We need you on a live stream
It really is quite simple
They keep taking it back to individualism and not listening to what Dr Umar is saying
Can't talk about communities without talking about individualism. Communities are made up of strong families not weak, broken families. Communities need to follow rules and guidelines like other cultures. Black Communities don't follow the same rules as other cultures. Deadbeat dads and promiscuous and unruly single mothers would be ostracized from Communities.
Because at the root of the community are individuals. You cant have a community of morally righteous people with that moral righteousness being ingrained at an individual level.
And thats what they were tryna explain to umar. If you cant convince the individual, you definitely aint gonna convince the community.
If you can convince the individual to take a stake in the community’s failure outside of himself, then you can spread that to the masses.
Effectively they tried to make umar convince them why they should take accountability for the communitys failures that they played no part in at an individual level and umar failed miserably and just kept saying “do it for the community”
That doesnt work
I haven't seen anyone so passionate about the black race in the entire world,and I am saying this as an African like Dr. Umar.
He will live to see the fruits of his hard work.
Malcolm X. R.I.P- king. And you see what happened to him. Protect Dr. Umar at all cost. 🙏🏽🙌🏽🫶🏽
@@QeenBee86
Malcolm X had a Wyte mistress privately. Race hustling is not a new career path.
He's a race Hustler with great vocabulary. He didn't realize GOD placed that White Guy who helped him during the construction phase where as the Blacks didn't come through. Dr.Umar missed the message of unity.
@@QeenBee86Dr.Umar is a race hustler. He makes his money with his vocabulary and hate speech that makes you easy to control.
@@northridgemall4625There is no unity in psychological and spiritual disunity you fool. That’s his whole point; re-education precedes revolution, otherwise NOTHING will change
This guy is too deep in his emotions to understand what Dr. Umar is trying to say to him. He is all about he, himself and I. Keep working on them Doc, keeping working on them.
Dr Umar is making sure they stay on topic and I love it! Much respect 💜
Yes the topic of blaming men for women emotionally based decisions. Yall choose who you fuck and get pregnant by via superficial sentiments like he is 6ft and taller, or he has tattoos, or he has swag and other crap and yall reject somemen cuz he aint tall or he is skinny or he dont sound hood or some dumb shit.
You lies for yall no different from a pastor: ps you're never getting a successful man
Yes
I think you can look at it both ways..
On one hand he's constantly bringing up white supremacy in the issues...
But on the other hand they're on the basis of our problems when it comes to us as a family
I know a lot of people don't like him, but the one thing they can't deny is that he has been consistent with his message from the very beginning
In Black unity is something I fully support 🙏🏾😌✨
EXCELLENT DEBATE !
( Thank you , Dr. Umar Johnson )
Another thing I love about Dr. Umar is that he not only speaks the truth, but he also provides solutions to the problems that we as black people face.
A lot of people can’t stand him and I’m confused.
@@drelocs2878I can't stand him because he is confused
@@drelocs2878e thinks it ain't wise for us to date outside our race. I don't follow this idiot, I follow my own history. he doesn't speak for me. he's saying shit that I've already known & read. it's just how take him seriously or not. I'm also confused to understand on what TF he's talking about he's talking in circles if you ask me.🤷🏾♂️
He expects black men to hold themselves accountable for what black women choose, that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life. Y’all like him because he panders to you… he’s getting them donations from black women
When black people marched ,their were no Chinese marching with us / But when Chinese people marched there black people were marching with them.
BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO GULLIBLE , DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND WE WILL WE LEARN TO STOP DEPENDING ON THE WHITE MAN + ALL THE REPARATION
IS NEVER GOIN TO HAPPEN, LOOK AT ALL THIS CENTURIES , FORGET ANUOT THAT AND LES DO OUR THINNH AND STOP BEGGING THE WHITE MAN FOR ANYTHING
My brothers struggled with that individuality concept, that’s a hurdle that we as a whole have to overcome. It’s one helluva mountain to climb. God Bless! 🙏🏿
We HAVE TO stop whining and move on in order to move forward; our past will always be our past, but this doesn't mean that we need to have it be a Millstone around our necks.
@@robertdore9592 I wholeheartedly agree. 🙏🏿
@@robertdore9592but I don’t think y’all understood those 3 . They have moved past. If anything Umar is stuck in the past. Eli and Ju spoke on it correctly. We shouldn’t have to deal with consequences while also tryna fix hurt from the 80’ & 90’s let’s be real most the time these women are under 30 years old and have not raised a child on there own. That was more around 30-40 years ago when a women was doing everything and anything for children but that is not the same right now.
You missing the point because if we’re looking at the group as a whole more times than not the 30 year old sister your talking about was raised by a single mother and her whole idea of life came from the system we need to fix
@@glenngriggs6445exactly
I wish Dr. Umar would get his own platform and bring guest on because these people don’t have the mental capacity to understand him
Yes 100%. Start his own channel and USE it
Wonder why he don't.
Very telling.
They are not mature enough they don't understand.
People no ready for Dr.umar
Thank you for this conversation.
These men are the EXACT problem. They are the men Dr.Umar is talking about.
How are the men the men the problem
It's not a black mans responsibility to fix the problems in the black community
“it’s not black men’s job to be men in the community” that’s what you just said.. who’s problem is it then? I’d like to know.
@@soulspirationgoddess its not black men’s responsibility to be someone else’s stepfather
@@aaronrooks2703The sad truth is you are the problem. What a waste
These dudes: “I’m a leader.”
Also these dudes: “I can’t be a man unless a woman and the Whyte man let me.”
FACTS!! They always blame “Da White man”. It is NEVER their fault or their responsibility!!
People should just stop trying to be looked at as leaders. What a buzz word.
Help people you can, we don't have to look up to you. It's not about your ego
@@oneday5572😆💯
Right! Little boys with a platform
Things be build in 30days
This conversation was wild 😂 I think this is what happens when you have an intellectual speaking to Podcasters who lack knowledge and speak solely based on emotion. What Umar was trying to tell that one guy was going straight over his head he's definitely for self for sure being community minded was dumbfounded to him he didn't get it
That’s ironic because Dr. Umar contradicted himself seven times
Exactly!!! Like, sir, we heard you, you don't like that she's been with pookie and rayray but what have you done for the community to prevent this from happening. what's being done to prevent your daughters, sisters, nieces, etc from even having a pookie as a character candidate. It's one thing to be a great dad but are you taking time to go show rayray down the street how to be a man so we can stop this cycle from happening in our community.
Lady Umar is an educated pookie he doesn't do anything he speaks about
@@rachealmiller6757 So I think the podcaster understood that his confusion came from not knowing how it was his or our responsibility to make sure that there are no pookies and Rayrays. Simply being present in the community doesn't always equate to having the impact on someone's life to be a better man. I think the presence of a good male role model definitely helps. That's like saying that white men being present in their communities can stop all the rapes, thefts, burglaries etc... that's a disingenuous argument that once again places unrealistic standards on the black man that no other men have. Have Japanese men been able to stop boys from growing up and being in the Triads gang? No. So yes for most men the best we can do is be present in our homes and hope the men and women that come from that home are good to great members of a larger society. Like he said not everyone is called to do that work.
@@jermaineburgess3767 clearly more educated than them so.... your point 👉🏾
I don’t care what Dr Umar talking about. My responsibility is to my son and my family. Tell their father to step up…
Dr Umar has two children out of wedlock by two different women. He wants resources from other men to take care of his children because his donations for his scam school is running out.
to the black women out there, I apologize to you for my previous bad behavior and I apologize to the present behavior you guys are enduring from black men
Blah blah blah. Black men suck!! Biggest waste of space. They do nothing positive for community. Wanna sit around and blame black women for their issues. I have zero respect!!!
Thank you my brother, and may we up hold you in prayers and strength to be all our black community and world God has called you to be
We love you ❤❤❤
What are you doing to change your behavior/mindset? Have you sought therapy?
yes and living by the principles of the kingdom of God@@blaqkatt5806
I'm so glad Dr. Umar had this discussion with other young blk men. It's much needed.🤔
It's just unfortunate that they didn't want to listen.
Did you see them all looking to each other for support 😂
None of them likely had a father and that’s why they can’t understand what Umar is saying. Bc they made it and no one helped them. That’s a bad point of view.
@@joannadickerson9189what do you expect people raised off individuality aren’t gonna have empathy for the plight of the community
First of all I love this interview.
The amount of views that it has received in comparison to the views on your content about men versus women has proved that people are ready for solutions. It's time to continue to have the conversations about how we come together and fix the problems instead of the blame game.
Not wit dis con-artist... articulate is often confused with intelligence .. which he isn't...
That's the Dr. Umar effect. Can't deny Umars impact
@@ChefChevyTv Self Hate is a hell of a drug... You have a great day.
@@1All-TimeAuntie no such thang.. y'all be making up terminology 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ChefChevyTv 👍🏿
A needed conversation. This is where the foundation is built through deconstructing of the current state we as black men are in. We can’t rebuild or repair ourselves without these conversations. This is a charge/challenge to all men.
Nahhh its a challenge to simps. Have fun. Yall think if you just all become step dads theyll respect you, history just gonna repeat itself
Dr Umar is on fire. That man can preach the truth about our culture as black ppl. As a man I can recognize that the black woman has held down the fort way too long by themselves. Us black men do need to do better and support the black women and raise our boys and not leave them by the wayside. Dr Umar I clap my hands to you for your honesty, integrity, and for the love you have to empower our ppl!
For everything good and meaningful thing Umar says he equals it with stupid far fetched BS excuses and lack of accountability for Black Women. In the end Umar will have helped accomplish NOTHING.
@@primaxgoldit’s because we’re supposed to be the leaders. Not our women. That’s how shit goes when you’re a leader.
You are a true alpha male because you can give another alpha male his props when it’s due…. When you hear truth , you accept it , you don’t come up with excuses to hate him as a man ignoring his message. Thank you 🙏🏾
It takes a mother and a father to conceive a baby….
20 million abortions since 1973 is holding down the community?
The breakdown on the masculinity of black women by Dr.Umar was phenomenal.
Pretty common sense but they clearly don't have it lol
Better than any preacher or pastor
Its pandering at its finest. This guy is derek jaxin 2.0
@dumkaisachakal6341 I find the feminine/masculine convo silly because balanced humans encompass both, but black men love to yap about it. Black men have been in the feminine position for decades, only makes sense for bw to step into the masculine.
@@soundsaboutright---no it doesn’t
“If we never allowed pookie to develop there wouldn’t be a pookie” 🔥🔥
Go stop Big Shirley from developing. There’s far more Big Shirley’s than Pookies in America.
This whataboutism how bout you take some responsibility
@@omegaduck2955 right they went in circles for about 10 minutes in the interview because the one host refused to accept the need for male collective responsibility. It's like he wanted Dr. Umar to lay into women's issues and crucify their poor choices which Dr. Umar never dismissed. That young man's energy was way off and I'm happy Dr. Umar didn't fall into the "what about" trap and focused on what men haven't done and can do for the benefit for all
This man is a Man!
A black woman raised Pookie 😄
POWERFUL!👊🏿
Umar is right we all have failed as a community but bruh kept making it about him. The problem with the gender wars is both sides lack empathy and would rather blame each other then find a solution. Both sides have faults but neither address them.
Facts that's where he lost me we can't build if we fighting against each other
All facts💯💯💯💯
We all have failed but he mostly blames the men
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@@Achilles645 we’re meant to lead he’s saying leaders don’t sit and cry about stuff they look for and implement stuff instead of looking to absolve themes from blame
I appreciate this real conversation. However, I am very disappointed in the young men that won't accept responsibility, yet I am not surprised.
Men are not responsible for mentoring children that are not their own. That's the job of the biological father. Can't talk about community without talking about family
@@Vietmac1993problem is there are maaaaany fathers choosing not to take care of their own this is where white men is doing great
@@CNM2326 exactly. Those biological fathers need to step up and do their jobs. Dr Umar should not be telling men who are not biologically related to fatherless children to step up. That's the job of the biological fathers.
@@CNM2326actually it’s statistically proven that more white men are dead beats than black dads are.
@@Vietmac1993and that’s the problem now.
💯💣 This conversation right here is for grown men..come thru Dr. Umar 🙌🏽🙌🏽
My 26 year old cousin is a great man. Has five kids with the same woman and it’s still in the household taking care of the household as a black man in America definitely not a Pookie can’t blame the system if you don’t allow the system to enter so proud of you, great black man❤
I felt this with my whole heart. My Sun’s father passed away when he was 3 but u can even comprehend home many boys I had to raise that were not mine. I had to do boy stuff with boys and I’m a woman. My Sun loved to invite all his friends to my little apartment on my little salary but God helped me through it and I’m called mom by many✊🏾🖤
As always
Peace beauty 💗💗💗
Salute! And these men act like they don’t see us in the barbershops…come on!
Naa..it's more ' That's a good woman, we know she has a man she don't have time for the bull@%# in the barbershop
@@RKG5A5go to therapy
Thank you Dr.Umar because as much as black single mothers are judged black absent fathers aren't judged enough!!
Black men didn't break up the black family it was black women. Umar Johnson isn't even married and yet you dummies stay believing his BS
Black men are the most involved fathers in America
They are judged, they created a system for that purpose, called child support, which women rarely are judged by.
@@HiddenBlackHistory213 Omggg no one is always going after child support please kill that narrative 😂🤣 y’all just don’t want to be responsible period but when you’re forced to be financially responsible it’s a problem. Stop having raw sex with women knowing the possibility of bringing children into this world
That’s not true at all. Men pay criminal penalties for not paying child support. They go to prison. There are men and women to blame for the state of the black family. Behavior needs to be corrected on both sides.
One of the toughest things to do is to hold up the mirror to ourselves as individuals yet alone the community.
What do they need to look at themselves for they haven’t done anything?
@@retrosaturn202 Well, perfection is a thing.
@@retrosaturn202
You saw what was said, and this was your response
Smmfh
Hold that mirror to your own face
Hate him...or love him...Umar is right 90% of the time...just in my opinion.
I love Dr Umar. He REALLY understands Black people. I 100% support this message.
He surely understands the women anyway. His school hasn't been built since 2009.
It’s quite interesting that these men had an excuse for every mode of responsibility Umar put in their path. That highlights the core of the issue. If you can always point to someone or something else, collective responsibility and agency is eliminated and they can’t be held to task for anything. The addiction to being victims and helpless should be embarrassing to these men and those like them.
I agree with you, but to a degree. We shouldn’t be looking to make excuses, pointing fingers at others and playing the victim. That’s facts. However, you know how many of our people don’t know that many of the things we go through today are due to subtle psychological warfare, waged on our people many years ago? It’s indeed important to know these things in order to get to the root of the issues. Yet at the same time, I do agree that focusing on excuses vs analyzing solutions is the wrong approach.
No he's not he's for bm doing what bw say and providing by the woman's rules because they donate ... his fix is for good bm to eat shit not and not lead and let bw treat them any kind of way and still serve which is dead and part of the reason why the gender war exists because bw don't even want to have to respect bm and put bm under the all of the bums and thugs they choose to have kids by..you can't expect to get help and disrespect at the same time doesn't work and bm are financially doing better than bw .. try to disrespect an African or anyone overseas and see how that goes
Absolute facts!!!!
@@DonnyHilt it’s a delicate balance. But there has to be a point where you decide and act on “against all odds”. Imagine if we all just took things laying down and not fighting for justice or the betterment of our loved ones? If Black women did that, the community wouldn’t exist, IMO. BW and BM were in slavery, her one is still relying on the trauma as an excuse while demanding leadership and submission. You don’t get that when you’re not exercising personal agency.
Facts
Umar is schooling that heartbroken man. Individualism vs community solutions is a big gap in our communication.
This interview was both empowering and frustrating all at the same time. REALLY?! I can't believe there was even a argument back and forth regarding the statements Dr Umar made...respectfully this is exactly the type of mindset that gave birth to this podcast generation of constant divide between the black female and males...one which will forever hold back and divide the black community. Come on brothers...it was so hard watching this! I really hope you came away with a light bulb moment because I'm half way through and actually in shock. On a good note, I'm glad this was interview was made known, so that damaging narratives (which you guys kept arguing) can be challenged and we can become more self-aware. Individualism is the greatest risk to our community!
Foolish woman, do you believe youll teach a mass of savages to be orderly?
You wont.
Youll teach them individually and then theyll form a community of like minded people who respect order.
Its the same with our community. Being family oriented starts with the individuals. Then the individuals form groups, then those groups form communities and those communities for a nation.
Its weird how people still fall for umars rhetoric and dont ever ask “if his logic (which isnt new by the way) is so good, why hasnt it worked?
Because you aint finna change the masses without changing the individuals first
It's soul shattering how much pain we cause each other😢
The best debate I have seen from Dr Umar yet. He ate them up with facts left no crumbs.
Wasn't a real debate tbh. More like a professor speaking to foolish students who push back on lessons
He did not all he did was pander
@@chris.t.389 I guess taking accountability as men is pandering nowadays.
@@Spectonimous no but i dnt have to be accountable for other ppl actions. If u had a kid out of wedlock thats between the ppl involved how bout the actual ppl who made bad decison be acouuntable and stop blaming the person making the right decision so yes he was pandering. How about he marry the woman he got a kid with better yet give back all the money he stole frm the imaginary school. Now thats being accountable. But since u so big about hold innocent ppl accountable how about pay off other ppl credit card bills who made bad financial decisions oh but u wont do that
@@Spectonimous ppl like u who blame others for their individual choices is why the "community" is the way it is. I am not accountabke for a woman who chose to lay with the wrong man b4 marriage. I am not responsible foe their kids. I am not responsible for their health and i am not putting someone elses kids and problem on my family so miss me with that "victim its ur fault im n the situation im in" bs that yall like to promote
I think they understand the difference between individualism vs community, they just don’t want to except the responsibility
Responsibility comes with authority. If your soldiers dont respect authority eventually you stop taking responsibility for them.
Theyll get you and them killed.
Thats the issue here. You cant lead a bull to water that doesnt want to drink
@@eatshityoutube3271if u can't get people to follow you, you're not a leader
@eatshityoutube3271 Wrong! A strong leader will always be respected and followed.
I agree!
@@eatshityoutube3271great wisdom. But we must not give up.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 the topic on accountability was on POINT!
I love and respect how many black men are bringing Dr. Umar on their platform.
Greetings, are you in our network with Dr. Umar?
Umar is a racist.
Sad that Dr Umar can’t read statistics apparently… black men are 4th behind Hispanics and Asian women in dating interracially. 🤡 behavior to berate black men INCORRECTLY. That shit pisses me off so much especially when niggas really ride behind what they saying like it’s correct yelling it and shit and be deadass wrong
Yes, it's admirable. However, they need to also be fully open minded and ready to fully listen to what he is saying. It's perfectly fine to disagree, in the end, but how can you disagree on a point that he isn't making? I don't know these young men names, but I just watched one of them in particular consistently disagree with what he said but he misunderstood that Dr. Umar was speaking about collective action. The young man was simply defensive.
Yes, I'm feeling that to . Dr, Umar, are waking up alot of these black kings .We can't keep playing stupid games " getting stupid prizes!" . Wake up - FBA ?
I met this giant in Kingston, Jamaica. This man's energy is enormous! He obviously walks in the presence of our ancestors.
Never heard or seen these young men before this interview. Their responses to Umar’s correction and constructive criticism were low vibrational. Attitudes/mentalities like theirs is part of the reason why we’re in this position. Individualism will not work to fix the black community. Maybe Umar helped them to see the error of thier ways, but I highly doubt it.
Always a so-called intellect talking about “low vibrations”. 😂😂😂 The epitome of pretentious
They need to be educated & I am sure they aren't instilling much needed into their child/children minds. Hopefully they don't die while their children are minors or the mother for them to understand the other side of the fence.
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Umar told them straight this is a MAN'S conversation. But they continued to keep trying to drag women into it wtf. That was so sad and disappointing they couldn't dispute what he was saying so they tried to highlight womens issues, just pitiful. If this was a conversation between supposed leaders then Houston we have a problem.
@@areyourhandsbrokegreat points
This has to be one of yer most powerful Umar conversations
Men stand up. Women level up
Hold ourselves more accountable. He spoke truth!!!!!!!
Umar Johnson didn't hold anybody accountable. All he did was deflect blame, move the goalpost, contradict himself and overtalk the host
@@aaronrooks2703right he missed the most basic point eli was making: “how is it my duty to fix a community i didnt break” and umars answer was effectively “because you allowed it to break” smh
These brothas were way out of their league trying to debate w/ Dr. Umar. He schooled the hell out of them as he always does. Love this guy.
U gotta give the brothas props for even getting him on the show. Always something negative to say.
Facts!!
He lied about why blk women are the way they are today, it was lie. He just knows how to out talk some, uea I agree the other men were out their league. But be clear, he was wrong about blk men allowing blk women to be what they are. He never wanted Kevin Samuels tho
Close male relative who is a black man has the same mentality as these black men he was schooling mixed with the mentality of the kneegrow and a 🦝 and i sent this video to him and told him to watch it. And he tried to criticize it without even watching it first claiming Dr.Umar preaches bs rhetoric. I told him to watch the video first before making judgements. Because how would he know what is going to be said if he hasn’t even watched the video first. Some of these blk men are so deep in the colonizing mentality that they refuse to let other blk people pull them out of that cave.
@@louisj4645So blk men leaving black women to be single black mothers to hold down everything is a lie? Tell that to all the blk kids who grew up without a father in sight and was raised by a single black mother.
What Dr. Umar did for the black community is heroic. The importance of creating a school without funding from the government is you can teach the curriculum you want. This is what we need.
So did Marcus Garvey, Martin Luther king, Malcolm X and what changed??
You still believe the school con huh
Lmao that school not here yet
The school doesn’t exist.
What did he do?! WTF did he do besides collecting money for ages and never really building just one school........... We don't need him anymore. Enough con artists around.....
Black American men have been getting away with lack of accountability for years now, finally a grown man of theirs checks them.
Umar Johnson isn’t even accountable for his own children but he wants to talk about black men taking accountability? FoH
@@aaronrooks2703 that is unfortunate, I think he should turn and take responsibility first.
@@aaronrooks2703 how do u kno that?
@@jaejae444 Umar has 2 kids with 2 baby mamas
@@aaronrooks2703 i kno that, but how do u kno he isn't accountable to them?
Dr Umar ate them up with the accountability aspect.
What do they need to be accountable for if they haven’t done anything wrong?
So did anyone recognize how towards the end of the podcast, what appears to be the owner or main speaker of the show almost completely refused to even ACKNOWLEDGE any accountability regarding the black man flaws and how it played into systemic racism. He persisted on holding BLACK women accountable on our “poor decisions” in dating men.. when majority of the men in our community are what he describe as “pookie and ray ray” (and we know what type of men he was trying to get at here). Regardless, despite Dr. Umar trying to get him to look at the overall picture, he was set on “revealing” this negative portrayal of black women, to which he described “is masculine with multiple kids”.. so all black women are masculine with multiple children?? Why would you even portray us in that way, but when someone say something regarding the negative characteristics of black men.. they quick to say “NOT ALL MEN” or “NOT ME, I worked hard to get where I’m at.” So… you think most BW do not work hard to become something and beat stereotypes.. while .. you know.. on top of balancing being the MAN AND WOMEN in a fatherless household? & Black men wonder why so many of our women embody the masculine role.. like do you even recognize how your own actions contribute to why some of our mothers and grandmothers had to be the men in our life as well? Judging a women for having multiple children, yet not criticizing the men who are impregnating her .. the ones who are not supporting her.. the ones who rather be in the street.. rather than building their community. I’m glad Dr. Umar put y’all in check. Why are you concerned about black women taking accountability, when the conversation is more so centered on how black men can collectively began on recognizing and acknowledging their role in the prevalent disruption of the black family institution.
Mindset of a self-hating, self-centered boy
There’s something with him- maybe his mother chose bad or a girl he liked choose a bad guy. But he lacks self awareness and can’t step outside himself to think about the bigger picture. I hope one day he can.
You said it perfectly, sis! The sad fact is BM should just admit that they're not up to solving the problems in the Black community and have given up.
@@SunshineKK99 this is false..
BW aren't thinking anything of the community when you're reproducing more Pookies to run amuck. Don't expect decent BM to protect you from your own mistakes.
This is the kind of talk we need on black podcasts .
Instead of celebrity gossip
Yeah but they idolize rappers and idiots instead, it’s why certain cities are the way they are
This is the kind of talk we need in private in real life. Before too long we have broadcast what we are going to do. And the weakness within that is the same as telling your enemy exactly where you come fail. You need to learn to move in silence and secrecy in order elevate from the sorrow pitiful sad state and position that our people are in.
Instead of all this toxicity and filth they push for views
@@belleame4671We can speak about whatever we want. You just don’t like black podcasters because they’re so influential that they can’t be cancelled by butthurt black women. I’m not gonna make excuses for black male criminals because I hate the them too, but you’re nuts if you think bw have done anything to deserve the respect of bm. I don’t deal with the black community on any level and I’ve never been happier
They couldn't hear him to receive him.
Whats there to receive but another mans perspective? You act like he was quoting scripture or something actually meaningful.
Yesssssssssssss
@@RedRag684please mind your race love…we got this…we don’t need you in our conversation
@@daisylove6318 what If I am black? You can look to dr umar for answers or you can open a bible.
They couldn’t but the older brother understood.
Yall got a like from me after I heard u volunteer your services to Dr.Umar's school! This was a great interview!❤
This individualistic mindset is something that plagues us and something we struggle with. Our mentality is under such hypnotic suggestion, that we cannot see the truth of our plight. This was a very edifying debate/conversation. More action needs to be taken rather than so much talking. Blessings 🙌🏽
RIGHT! . The " I got Mine you get Yours " mentality is detrimental to our people
True….this is why Allah Will destroy all the BS we out value in and FORCE us on one accord….watch n see
well said
I agree and also disagree.
@@DreX-8810 ALLAH🤦
The mindset and education between Dr Umar and these interviewers is immense. They have victim mindset. They need to educate themselves about responsibility to understand the scope of problem at discussion. The lack of self awareness is huge. Educate yourselves black men to solve your community problems. Keep the excellent work Dr. Umar.
And Black women need to understand that they have a responsibility to themselves to not get pregnant.
And what about the victims' Olympics that Black women like to run. Black women need to be held accountable just like Black men.
Wait, what? UMAR had the victim mindset!!!
Black men TODAY, are NOT responsible for the actions of what black men before us did! That's the problem!
It's not different than asking whites today to atone for what their racist forefathers did!
Women can't bash us, then say we "don't protect them." Behaving masculine is a CHOICE!
@@davidtyler6708 how does a woman get pregnant without a man? Dodo
@@tristc6909 There is something called birth control. You should look it up, Dodo.
I come from a massive family filled w men
Being a man is taught
Anyone in my family not being a man would be clowned and shamed
All actively in their children’s lives
All successful
All stand for something
The way to fix the issues in our community …is by not tolerating it
My family move as a unit
I pray that my people realize that
We are stronger and more powerful together than apart ✊🏾✨💕
Must be nice!
That's cool! Same. I remember men washing the car for his woman, music blasted, full the tank up... Simple things like that. I rarely see that now.
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lmao I loved the race hustler, what a loser victim who will never create anything to better mankind.
EXACTLY !!! They don't understand the more the Man is missing in action from the family the more destruction it causes!!!
“Why is she masculine” teach them Dr. Umar
lol cuz she gets rights in 2024. lolololl women have become melennials by default cuz the system allows thhe removal of not only the father of the child but the husband of the wife. Bet u cant say what ya want or do what ya wan with your kids if they hit that system on you and they can easily. The way you said that, kids will be saying something in a similar fashion once both parents are removed and thhey are born into being controlled. They'll love it too. I say this especially cuz there no men going "Why is feminine" teach em dr. Umar. its not a flex to be a victim of the system to toss in someones face lolololol also men always wanna be tough and the bihh ninjas know who they are.... but most women left alone thing they tough and strong/manly... I dont see men becoming women as a systematic solution. we get angry when see a bih ninja but women get happy when they get out of their nature ...and if they can copy bih boy they loooooove it. then women praise themselves for contributing to that systematic decline. we got bihh boys and now we make it cool to be a undesirable whore (cuz u not gettin man points for being single and smashing constantly cuz if bih boy hits it we dont even want it)
Too many men are angry at some women for choosing Pookie and Ray. But not all women choose Pookie and Ray. Some of us choose cooperate men, CEOs, Pastors, Deacons, blue collar, white collar and ect....and they were still played by men. Bad men come in all different walks of life.
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True 💯
Like Umar said they mad that women are consuming the product that they made and most of them are too dumb to see it
Pookie and rayray wear various uniforms and transcend socioeconomic statuses.
Preach!!! This is what they’re in denial of. They oversimplify what it takes to vet men. Men can pretend to be one thing until a baby is involved and do a complete a 180 once responsibility and accountability are in the picture.
man... Dr Uman is a library, an encyclopedia, an university. bow to you, brother.
Greetings & much appreciation, are you in our network with Dr. Umar?
You've left out "scam artist"
Lol he said bow idolatry
This is what is wrong with my generation of older boys....we don't want to take responsibility and is all about "I"!
They are not responsible for children that are not their own. Go after the deadbeat dads
Women have been doing that for years but y’all never say shit to them
Responsibility and accountability is one hell of a drug and no one wants to take part Smdh
This was so frustrating to listen to
Dr. Umar needs to be protected
I am sure he is....
Initially coming with 'Some' - 'Some Historical Facts'; yet, in the end, have nothing substantial to validate or make real their/your points of views. Applying to: Allah, Buddha, Jah, Jesus, Krishna, Yahweh And All The Rest (Umar Johnson...etc..): Even as an updated point of view: my take on it is that Blacks as a whole (especially as applying to both African and American Blacks [maybe one more so than the other and vice versa]) we fail in these five to six main areas: 1) The Idea Of A Non-proven One All Omnipotent God/Religions; 2) Not Having Overall Desire Or Values Toward True Ancient, Historical Knowledge & Science; 3) Negative Female Rulership By Non-Postnatal Trained ('Crooked Natured') Women; 4) Limited, Average Life Span; 5) Not Having Economic Productive Type Values (Needing Someone Else To Do What You Yourself Can Do While Also Not Maximizing On The Full Utilization Of Your Community's Or Continent's Natural Resources) & Finally, 6) The Allowed Destruction Of Family; all of this done within our limited average 80-years lifespan
AT ALLLLLL) COST
@@wr006 YOU LEFT OUT CROOKED NATURED MEN
@@rochelletaylor4558 As a response to your comment; thus, no I didn't intend - I had no intentions of ever saying anything about males also generally - naturally prone towards distorted or 'out of line' type behavior; what I meant was that female side (being that we are now considered a separate gender type species as opposed to having a one, unisexual gender) is more prone to having distorted or 'out of line' type behavior (especially as it applies to positively maintaining the overall family structure). As with us males, based on historical records and simply close observation, we males in general are prone to being overly arrogant and egotistical; inclusively, we males can be extremely arrogant and egotistical even when we (as my mother would put it) 'don't have a pot to pi** in'.
We think we're winning when we're losing ". I'll never forget this Umar gem
Listening to Dr. Umar always makes me feel like I just read a whole new book 📖